Subpar - Kevin Stadler Interview: Growing up the son of a Masters Champion, plans for his return to the PGA Tour

Episode Date: June 30, 2020

On this week's episode of GOLF's Subpar, PGA Tour winner Kevin Stadler joins former PGA Tour pro Colt Knost and his close friend and on course rival Drew Stoltz for an exclusive, in-studio, interview. Kevin talks growing up the son of a Masters Champion, battling a brutal Shinnecock Hills on Sunday at the 2004 U.S. Open, and his plans to return to the Tour now that he is finally healthy.

Hello, golfing world, and welcome to another episode of Golf Subpar. Colt Nost and Drew Stoltz coming at you. Sleez, another exciting week of PGA Tour Golf. Yes, it's back. It's live. It was good. I feel like the first three weeks we've had incredible winners. When you look back of the winners, Burger, Simpson. Now DJ getting back in the winter circle again, keeping a nice little streak alive. Now he's won every year for 13 years.

They've been on tour. Not bad. Pretty good. Golf's better when you got all the big dogs up at the top. And right now we got them. And DJ back, that makes it way more fun for. everyone. Twenty first career PGA Tour victory vaults him over $63 million in career earnings puts him fifth all time on the money list already. That's a joke. At 30 just turned 36 years old fifth all time. Yeah, he ain't done yet either about the little rocket he just sent up by 18.

It was kind of getting wobbly there for a little bit coming down the stretch and then 18. Some people put a little steer on it just get it somewhere in the fairways like no, just go ahead and hit 350 in the air. Yeah, I want to almost back up to hole number 12 where Brendan Todd had the absolute disaster making triple bogey. Look like I was like I was like, oh, well, this thing's over. DJ's going to walk away with this thing. He proceeds to hit it out of bounds, hits it in the train tracks on 13,

makes a bogey, gets one of the best breaks, I would argue, of his career on the drivable 15th when the ball basically plugged in the hazard. It didn't plug, but it landed so soft. That ball was destined for the water, stays up, makes an unbelievable par,

and like you said, proceeds to hit. One of the, like, I would say it compares to the drive he hit off Oakmont on 18 when he won the U.S. Open. Just an absolute seed when you have to hit it. 351 yards out drove the next closest guy was 15 yards behind him yeah and there's some guys that are moving it right now i feel like dj goes the opposite when a lot of people get nervous they

get tight they swing shorter try to steer it dj's like not if i'm nervous i'm hit it as hard as i possibly can and it's worked out you know watching him win like he did yesterday that was pretty impressive but the break on 15 dude that was why i could not but i rebound it like five times like how does that not move an inch yeah and for the third straight week third different putter in the bag and this one seemed to work he rolled it beautifully made a couple of huge puts notably the one off the from off the green on number 10 yeah the watching him put with that i know he's back and forth all the time it looks weird watching him putt with that thing a it's just an awkward looking putter i think he's the only guy using it on tour right now but you're just so

used to seeing him either with like the newport style putter or the or the or the mount that he was so good with for so long it looks weird seeing that thing up there i wonder how long i know he just won with it so obviously it's going to be in the bag for a while but we'll see if he doesn't keep tinkering with that it's not the museum it ain't that there's only one museum stays in the bag always exactly you got to pay a small fee to check that thing out what do you think about phil though dude phil making some noise a played great was leading going into the weekend but b there's some fashion choices going on from from philly is it is it premature to call this midlife crisis for phil no i think it is i mean he's lost all this weight he's wearing these

sunglasses that look like they should be on a 22 year old and then just to top it off sunday he shows up in joggers yeah the sunglasses looks like he's coming coming from like the sequel for Super Troopers. Like he's auditioning for that. And the joggers, he's catching a lot of heat on social media for the joggers. I don't mind the joggers. I like him. I don't know if I would expect Phil Mickelson to be the guy.

But coming from some of the stuff Phil used to wear, dude, like the baggy pleats with the pinstripes. It looked like a mob boss or whatever. I don't think the joggers are all that bad. Now that especially since he's now he's skinny, Phil. They look better than they would a few years ago. Yeah, but hey, good to see him playing better. The first 36 holes was incredible. And then he kind of lost it a little bit on the weekend.

him, but hey, good to see him. And we're going into another huge week on the PGA tour, going over to Detroit for the 4th of July, Rocket Mortgage Classic. Yes, sir. A lot of the big boys back in play. Bryson coming off another big week, which seems to be just running the mill now, top tens for him, Webb's back in the field after taking a little one week off. So, I mean, they're going, and by the way, the scores these guys are shooting right now, it feels like no rust. Do you think the scores are better in part because, like, no fan? Do you think that has anything to do with it at all? It could be. I don't know. Maybe if guys are just a little more late. They're just going out there and winging it.

They've had perfect weather three weeks in a row, like zero wind and soft greens on three of the shorter golf courses on the PGA tour. And you're going to see these guys like Bryson who can overpower these things with soft greens and no wind. The scores are going to be low. Do you think, like we talked to all the players before, like, what's it going to be like without fans, all that type of stuff? Do you think there's a part of them that after three weeks this now is like starting to get used to it and like almost enjoy it? No distractions, no people yelling, no cameras being, you know, pictures being taken while they're hitting. You think part of them is like, dude, this is actually kind of nice. The no distractions is nice, but not having the buzz of the crowd and the adrenaline going because, you know, the play.

You can hear roars from all over the place. Like, I think guys miss that because it's so much fun to play in front of a crowd. And I think those guys will always enjoy that. There's obviously perks to playing with nobody. You're not going to get yelled at very often in the top of your back swing. You're not going to have any cameras go off very often. but playing in front of crowds is a cool deal, and I think a lot of those guys will miss it. I feel like some of the guys, they'll enjoy like that if you're in the lead or near the

lead for the first time or it's rare, you do it a couple times a year, like playing with note without having 10 deep behind you every single shot, you're not used to that. It's probably like a huge breath of fresh air. They don't have to deal with the final round, you know, drama that goes with all the galleries and stuff. Like some guys probably enjoy it. Yeah, Cole, I know there was a time when you were playing the travelers a few years ago where you might have wished there wasn't any fans.

You had a little bit of a super fan out there giving you some encouragement. Yeah, one of my. Favorite events on the PGA tour, always love going to the Travelers. It was always around my birthday, so a special week. But I remember I was in one of the last few groups on Sunday, coming down the stretch, I was playing terrible. It was like three or four over par on Sunday. Just wanted the day to be over with, walking up 18.

And I'm in the middle of the fairway, and all of a sudden this guy goes, nice playing today, you fat fuck. He goes, looks like you're going to be back on the web.com tour where you belong and all this, and just gives it to me the whole way up the hole. I'm just like, look, I'm like, who is this guy? Like, what did I do to this guy? He's like, you're so worthless. You don't even belong to be out here and all this.

And I'm like, good God. Whatever. So my caddy at the time, he's like, dude, just keep your head down. Let's just finish. Let's get out here. So I'm finished. Next year, or maybe the year after, somewhere in the near future. Same situation again.

Playing well, first three days going into Sunday. Here we go again. Three or four over par coming up 18. I'm playing with Tommy two gloves gaining. Walking up 18th fairway, I'm pissed off again. Obviously, not. Not having the Sunday I want. All of a sudden here, hey, Colt, remember me?

He goes, looks like you're doing it again. And I'm just like, who in the, and just starts wearing me out again. And it comes to the point where Tommy Ganey wants to go fight this guy. You should have let him. I should. Tommy would do it. Looking back now that I don't play anymore. Tommy's just asking for.

He's like, who is that guy? I was like, dude, I have no idea. But this is the second time this guy's come at me like this. It's unbelievable. The worst I've ever been heckled in my PJ Tour career. I mean, it's funny, looking back at it now. Like some of the stuff this guy said to me, but I was just like, what did I do to you?

You didn't hear him from the first 17 holes, never heard from after. You never met him or he never came up to like a scoring area or anything like that. And was like, hey, dude, just Josh. And I remember he was about 150 yards from the green on the right side of number 18. And I mean, it's so crowded there on 18 normally. I mean, they're 20 deep up the hill. So you can't really tell who it is. It takes balls to do that in front of a whole gaggle of people like that, too.

I'm like, apparently I did something bad to this gentleman. I need to know what this guy is because you told us before. I love it. If anyone's in the greater Connecticut area and hates Colt or knows the guy that hates Colt and wants to reach out to us, please hit us on golf so far because I want to talk to this dude. We'll do a call in interview. I got to know this dude. I got to know why he hates Colt. You must have done something to this dude unknowingly.

Maybe an ex-girlfriend along the way or something. Oh, my God. I have no idea. But I'll never forget that. It's really funny looking back at it now. But a guy that could probably relate to this is our next guest, Mr. Kevin Stadler. I don't know that Stads would have handled it quite as well as you did with. somebody like i think you might have just uh taken it into his own hand he would be perfectly fine with

no crowds probably for the rest of his career no crowds no media obligations no one talked to me i'm here to play golf just shut up and watch me golf yeah but it was fun sitting down with him got to see a little bit of a different side of him he opened up a little bit and told some cool stories yeah man he's a great dude you and i known him for a long time awesome dude it's been tough for him going through the injury stuff which we get into a little bit uh in the interview but from what it sounds like he's going to get back getting ready to play again and uh that's a really good sign because he's been out for a time and I know it's been a tough four or five years for him. Yep, it has. But before we get to him, you got a special word from our official sponsor. Got to tell everyone out there about a little

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It is our privilege to welcome on our next guest. He's a very good friend of ours, PGA tour winner, and recently completely physically transformed Mr. Kevin Stadler. Stadler how are we doing transformation is uh not exactly true but i'm being great fantastic though how much weight have you lost a few i tend to fluctuate have you lost more than bryson is gained uh probably pretty close yeah i gladly give him half of me more too that's all good i think it's fantastic yeah you look great you look what even what's just getting into it what's what are you been doing are you just eating better not drinking as much or um yeah all the above and hiding from you guys You've been very bored.

Very extremely bored. See, that's what happens when you hide from me in the sleeves. Extremely bored. We'll get you back, right? Get you back up. Weight gain is in. What's the hardest part of losing weight? Not like eating good or not drinking as much?

Probably not drinking as much and not doing it. I would say, yeah, most people say like the eating's fine or whatever, but it's the going out and social, all that stuff. That's, and this bullshit virus is played right into that. So I can hide at home and do my thing. It's all good. Yeah, probably a good time to get after it. You look fantastic. Well, let's get right into it.

Let's go back to the young Kevin Stadler. What was it like? Your dad wins the 1982 Masters. What was it like growing up the son of a Masters champion? No, I was two years old anyway, so I don't have any memories of that. I've seen pictures pretty cool, like riding on his shoulders up somewhere on the grounds. I couldn't tell you where. But one of my greatest ongoing memories when I was a kid was going back there every single year

when I was, you know, 7, 8, 9, 10 on, probably until high school, I went every single year to Augusta. That's incredible. And I don't know if it happened to be like during our spring break or whatever in grade school or I just said, you know what, I'm going to Augusta with my dad. I don't care. So screw school, let's go. And my dad played along with that.

And it was, it was sweet. Like, I mean, it was the one place that I made sure I was going to be at every single year, like except from a really, really young age. The place is beyond words. You've been there. Actually, I have it, Kevin. You've been there. You've been there.

You've been there. Nope, never step foot on the ground. Not once? Nope. I've been there, Kevin. I know you have. Of course. He's smoothed his way in there.

Yeah. So it's fantastic. And you know, that's like my old man winning there. That was the one for me as a kid. Bonus was just the availability to go there frequently like every single year when I was, when I was a little kid. It was awesome. At what age did you first get to play? I didn't play there until I was in college.

He took me there a random day in like January over winter break. It was like probably in the 40s and rainy and just the shittiest day you can imagine. And we went out. I think he was not too happy with me because I was just, I couldn't get enough of it. We played we played 18, went in, got launch, went to the par three, played the part three, went back, played the back nine. My dad's probably thinking like, why the fuck did I bring you here? This is ridiculous. But I wanted to go and go and go and go and go and go.

It was dark, so just like, all right, we're done. But it was an incredible experience. I mean, how can you not? I mean, I think if someone ever takes me, now that my dream of playing in the Masters is obviously gone, if someone ever takes me, I want to spend all day there. Yeah, it was pretty cool. It'll be interesting to see if they actually let me in the gate since I turned down their invite. Sorry about it.

I got to tighten up a little bit, but I'm going to handle that midam at some point and you're going to be there. Part three guy. Oh, Caddy for you. Yes. 100%. Light and load for you. How old were you when you realize how special like that?

I mean, you're seven years old. You probably don't really realize the significance of the Masters. I don't know the answer to that, to be honest with you. It was something I was certainly lucky enough to where it was an annual thing. And I look forward to it from the day that we left to fly back to San Diego and I was a little kid. I couldn't wait until the next year to go back there. You know, it was just a cool trip. He had all of his buddies went back and we rented a house, all stayed there.

And I just kind of roamed free. like I was a little golf nerd and I was a kid I couldn't get enough of going out and watching my dad play watching other people play and just kind of roaming around like and it was a different time then they didn't they didn't really give a shit my dad's like yep we'll pick you up at five o'clock

regardless of when he played like he played at 830 I'd go watch him and then I'd just wander around and watch all these other guys so it was just let loose inside the gates of Augusta's little kid and with a player family badge thing just going and wherever hell he wanted to It was pretty cool.

Did you know from a really young age, like professional golf is what you wanted to do? Yeah, very, very lucky in that regard because I don't know what the hell else I would do. And it was not many do. Literally like from probably when I was like five years old, if you asked me what I was going to do, I was like, I'm going to play pro golf.

And looking back now after playing for a while and realizing how hard it is, like it's amazing that set that as a goal and somehow just ended up there. and was able to get out and play for a while because it's now that I'm on the back nine, it's a lot, it's a lot harder than I ever thought it was going to be. We're done.

I've been in the clubhouse forever. Yeah. Rain delay. But your pops didn't push you into playing golf, right? Like, you found, like your dad was obviously an incredible golfer, but you found golf kind of, he didn't push you and be like, hey, you need to pick up golf. No, he didn't. He could have cared less.

Like, my younger brother didn't play lick. I just, I love going out and watching him play. and just couldn't get enough of it. I was lucky I was just kind of a natural to it. I was really good when I was a little kid. And it was just basically all I did. I played every sport into someone when I was a little kid. But by the time I got to be 12, 13, it was nothing but golf.

And my dad was super excited that I took to it like I did, but he was never, never that guy, like, never give me a lesson and did anything like that. You know, he'd, one thing that I remember was that I'll never have really. really forget was he came up to me in uh well so let me backtrack a little bit so when i was a little little kid i played left-handed i would stand next to my dad and i'd swing left-handed he'd be banging balls and i'd just hit right next to the other way then he gave me some right-handed clubs and i played cross-handed for a while and he bribed me to switch to a regular grip uh he told me back in the day he'd give me metal woods if i changed you a regular grip so i was like yes screw i'm in for

metal club yeah okay cool and then in high school this is what i was going to say to begin with it i'll never forget is he came up to me on the range. He always used to hound me when I was a kid about never practicing. Like I'd just go to the golf course and I'd play and play and play some more. Like played 27, 36, 45 holes a day in the summertime. And I still think he's full of shit. Like he would, he would always say that he would go and practice and my whole life since I could remember him. He never practiced. But he would like rock up to the golf course, go to the driving range when I teed off. My thinking is he probably went inside and had a six pack of bloodline. and then came back on the driving range when I was making the turn,

but made sure that I saw him on the range when I was coming up number nine. So, hey, look at him and practicing. That's pretty good. So he obviously had a very natural gift just like you do. But yeah, so he came up to me on the range that one of those, like in that time frame, and he looks at me and he goes, why the hell you gripping it like that? And then I said gripping it like what. And all I knew is I wasn't gripping it crosshanded.

I had a 10-finger grip back then. But all he cared was that I wasn't gripping at cross-handed. He never taught me how to grip it. never offered me the interlock overlap any of that. I didn't know. When I was so stupid, I literally didn't even know what either one of them was. He marched up into the pro shop and got two assistant pros. And so he's like, you are you, who do you want to,

do you want to teach you how to grip it? Because I know you're not going to listen to me, so I'm out. That's great. Pops, Master Champ, go get an assistant pro at the local club. Teach my kid out of grip it. Yeah, because he probably, A, I wouldn't have listened to him. And B, I'm not too sure he would have known when he's. talking about either so I love that well you know you had a successful high school career you

end up at USC what first off how did you end up USC second off where else were you looking to go frankly I don't know how I ended up at SC but I more than anything I think I was just kind of like somewhat predestined to go there my dad went there my grandfather went there I was looking at pretty much anything west coast you know we moved to Denver at first high school lived in San Diego as a kid so West Coast has been my thing kind of never even considered going anywhere east never frankly looked in the state of Colorado was a little too chilly in the winter time but I looked at pretty much everything west from Texas to UNLVE New Mexico ASU Arizona Pepper Dine and it's just I

don't know I honestly I don't know why it came down to SC or New Mexico and I literally was standing my parents that's a little different yeah totally totally different it's both sides of the coin right I heard your recruiting trip It was a lot like Jesus Shuttleworth from he got game. That's why you have been told that too. Have you? You heard about that? The stories are rampant.

I would have a lot more fun if either one of you were on that. By the way, good thing you didn't go to you and LV knowing your little craps addiction. That's not an addiction. That's not an addiction. Please, I've seen it. And USC gives away more free shit than anyone else. That's a fact, but not to golfers. Not to golfers.

Well, obviously they're known for their football program. What was it like when you were at school? football was actually shit when I was in school. Their basketball team was really good. I started, I started Carson Palmer's first year was my first year. And I might be miss speaking, but I think in his five years, I think he had four different offensive coordinators and three different head coaches. There was just a lot of turmoil.

Basketball team was great. We had a really thin class, like a really solid class my freshman year. And they made the eight and the 16, two of the years we were there. So that was a lot of fun. And back then, like no, it wasn't in the Galen Center, which was a sweet new arena. We got on campus now. It was at the old sports arena where the Clippers played before Staples, getting really old now. You're only 40, dude.

Yeah. But it was great. Like, we used to rock up to those games. Like nobody really care about the hoops like the football. I mean, we'd sit courtside, you know, virtually every game. It was a blast. Like I said, we had four guys were three or four guys. that were my incoming year that started all four years.

They were really, really fun. But the football, football games were still a thing there. I mean, it was what everybody does there. I mean, it's got tons of history behind it, obviously. But they really weren't the SC of their most recent heyday until the year after I finished. It was Carson's fifth year was Carroll's second or third year, I believe. they won

the orange bowl they destroyed Iowa and the orange bowl and then they went on from there they went on from there to Lannert and Bush and all that you just missed the dynasty yeah it would have

it would have been a heck of a lot of fun to be there for that but it was still it was still great regardless but getting back to how like just like you're always a guy I grew up in Colorado I looked up to you like growing up you won the state am or you won everything in Colorado growing up you always been like

just so naturally gifted with golf for whatever reason and got some good buddies that played on the U.S. see golf team with you obviously and they talk about the same thing like dude stads used to be our number one guy we drive up the van he's playing number one so he's off an hour and a half after the number five guy or whatever and he would sit in the van and read a book or sleep but he would just be in the van the whole everyone else is warming up hitting chips even number two guys out there doing something stats would be reading a book and he'd get so lost in his book they're like 10 minutes

before his tea tank big oh shit at he off in 10 minutes and he'd stumble out of the van hit like eight balls two drivers one put walk to the first tee and then shoot 67 and be leading the golf tournament like without even putting in like everyone else was like grinding out there and they're shooting 73s and you would just be like oh i tee off in eight minutes i got to go that's that's fair i remember at new mexico's tournament i think it was my senior year was was playing really really well all season and i don't remember if i was reading the book or sleeping to be honest with you but we got there i mean our like four and five guys wanted to get there an hour and half early and if it was up to me in those days i would be there i was that guy i'd be there 30 minutes early

So an hour and a half early for the tea time that's 40 minutes ahead of you. I got two hours and 15 minutes or whatever for my tea time. And I needed a 30 minute warm up. And I'm like, I would still be sleeping when they got there. If it was up to me, I was just sleeping in the back bench at the van. But that tournament, somebody came and had to wake me up to go play because I was out cold. That's awesome. I love that.

One of the best guys in the country. Hey, wake him up. He needs to shoot 68 like he always does. Well, you turned pro in 2002, you know, had some up and downs. one a few times on the now Corn Ferry Tour, won the Johnny Walker over in Europe. But your first really, really big win, 2014 Waste Management, Phoenix Open,

your 239 PGA Tour start. At a golf course you don't like, by the way. Never been my favorite one. Exactly. Yeah. So how does it all come together on a way that? First time, you live across the street. I don't understand how you don't like the golf course.

So for starters, my first really, really big tournament. I won was the first pro tournament I played in and going back to my dad's stories here. My dad caddy formed me at the Colorado Obey. open in 2002 was the first tournament I played. That is a big one. First tournament I played as a pro and happened to win it in a playoff. Like that was really cool.

My dad was still playing really, really well, took his time off to come caddy for me in it. And it was a funny story on like the 14th to 15th hole or right in the thick of it. I don't remember where I was in the tournament exactly, but we played a mountain course up in Vail. And I got this uphill, or uphill second shot. it's like a wedge and it's it's way uphill on a mountain course you can't really tell how far away you are but it's it's not more than 120 yards and my dad walks off the distance like there's you know it's a normal nice country club there's no there's no yards book you know like you got and whatever and he finds it he finds a head that's like 20 yards away and he walks it off and he gives me the number

depends in the back up this big tier and he's like you know you got uh 112 of the front and one four 45 of the hole. And I'm looking at it like it looks like it's 110 yards. I'm like, are you, are you serious here? And he's like, and he's like, let me go double check it. So he waddles back and finds the sprinkler head again. And he comes back and he's like, yeah, one, yeah, one 12 and 148 or whatever it was. And I'm like, okay. So I had this thing and stripe it right at it. And it flies 20 yards over the ring. And I'm just looking at him like, I don't hit it that far, right? And I chip at about 50 feet. past like I got this possible chip was all the way down the hill to the front of the green and I hoop it coming back up from like 50 feet apart. And he walks off the green. He's like, hey, thanks. And I was so, I was so mad because I thought I thought I made two and I'm like 20 years old or whatever, 22 years old. And I'm like, what the fuck are you doing to me here? Like give me bad yarders and he goes, he's like, yeah, thanks. I screwed that up twice. He said. Yeah. A good friend of ours, Matt Erwin did that to me one year, 45 and I knew it right as he did. Me did it twice. I was like, all right. Yeah, you're definitely not a catty. Stick to playing. Anyway, back to Phoenix.

Phoenix is definitely, it's not quite my cup of tea with that shit show of a fan base and whatever it is. It's craziness. It's something. It's cool because it's once a year and it's pure madness. Something I played like five, seven years time. I don't know how many times, but never had any success, really. and kind of frankly was a little bit over it where I loved every other tournament on the West Coast. I played them all every year virtually.

And it was getting to the point where Phoenix was going to be the perfect break in the schedule, even though I like you said, I live across the street, literally across the street. And it was just kind of the way it was slotted in was going to be a good week for me to have a break. And the year before I won played really, really well on Sunday, rather. I don't remember where I was sitting, but I was like 8 or 10 under on Sunday, and ended up finishing like 5th or 6. So I was like, okay, I got to play.

I'll give it one. I got to play the next year. And what happened? The Broncos ended up making the Super Bowl that year back in New York and thank God I didn't go to that debacle of the game. But I was legitimately considering not playing and going to the ball. It was pretty cool that the Sundays round here, I was paired with Ryan Moore, who's a Seattle guy,

and he's a big Hawks fan. So it was pretty neat. And this being Super Bowl Sunday, the Sunday here was really cool. Just, I mean, Phoenix is a big transplant city. You know, you got people from all over, but all over the West Coast a lot. And there's tons of Colorado people here, tons of Washington people here. So walking around the tournament on Sunday was Saturday and Sunday, it was just heaps of guys wearing Broncos jersey, Seahawks jersey.

So it was fun. It was cool. Yeah, you had your Broncos colors on on Sunday. Yeah. Playing with Bubba Watson in the final group. And I heard there was a little somewhat of an incident on the 72nd hole. on the T-box with Bubba? I wasn't really an incident, but

yeah, just stepped in your way. Yeah, it was a little confusing. We both, it was pretty cool. We were both trying to choke as hard as we possibly could on the back nine. On 15, the par five, he drove it in the water.

I hit my second shot in the water. And we're just like, here, you have it. No, you have it. I don't want it. You have it. But we both ended up making par. He made about a 20 foot of par. I made about a 15 foot of par.

And he bogeed 16. And 17, that pin was all the way in the back in the middle, which is real dicey. And we both drove it on the green, but like way over on the right corner. So you almost had to putt. Like you legitimately could have putted it into the bunker if you weren't too, too careful. And we both two putted there for Bertie. And I think that at that time he kind of forgot that he bogeed 16 and tried to jump in front of me on the Tion 18. I kind of had to shoe him away, but he was, he.

What is, what is, yeah, what is he? I know. I don't really know. Like, he, Ryan Tied off first because Ryan had made kind of a charge. I think he'd birdied three in a row or four in a row at that point. He hit, and I knew I was second. I don't want to drive after Bubba. Yeah.

Especially on that hole. That hole does not suit me very well. I hit it about 10 feet farther than you two, so I can't carry that water on the left. Not long. Well, you smashed that one, though. Yeah. That one I did. I was, there was a little gentle involved in.

I heard he stepped in to tee up his ball and you kind of just walk up and go, excuse me. Yeah, pretty much. Like he thought it was his turn to hit. And he had his peg in the ground. And I was like, no, I'm not, I'm not hitting and I'm not hitting after you. Did he say anything? No, he didn't. He was a little flustered.

He didn't really know. Probably if it's not the 72nd hole. If it's Friday and that happens, you're probably like, yeah, whatever. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. The, the weird thing for me was like he seemed more nervous than I was, which should not have been the case. Well, he's nervous everywhere.

Yeah, he is, but he is. But like you said, it was a 200 millionth tournament I played without winning, and who knows how many he's won, probably double digits. And it's like he'd been there, done that a lot. And I had the one thing I remember was Shan and my caddy. We were on 18T. And it's honestly, I hit the three wood off there a lot because I can't carry that water. And it takes a lot of the trouble out of play. And I asked him, I was like, we got up there once we got Bubba out of the way.

I still didn't even know what I was hitting. He's like, do you like driver or three wood? And he goes, well, it's just a three wood, isn't it? And I was just real pumped up. And I'm like, fuck that, give me a driver. I'm going to hit it down there and make Birdie and go watch Super Bowl. And he goes, okay, I love it. And didn't make Bertie, but thank God that you had 110 yards into a back right pin,

which is, I mean, the whole is 450. That's absolutely moving. Yeah, it was a good one. Yeah, and then Bubba Watson goes on to miss a five-footer for par to force a playoff. And then all hell breaks loose across the street a couple hours later. Oh, my God. that might have. It might have.

We know it did. We were there. I am well aware of that. The movie Project X, have you seen movie Project X? It was loosely based on your celebratory party. That was one of the best nights I've ever had in my life. There were more, this is a testament to you because there was more PJ tour plays. Actually, the runner-up, I think Graham Delette had a massive week that week.

He was either second or third. He was he running up. He shows up a number of other PJ tour guys. Everyone is so happy that, you know, you. won. I'm sure you were sick of answering the question. You'd won abroad and things like that. I'd won on the PGA tour and you got that off your bag. So many guys showed up to celebrate with you. That had to be a deal. Yeah, it was awesome. It was obviously unexpected. I was hoping to hoping to win that day and played well enough too. And literally when I got done, I didn't really

see anybody. And everybody knows I've lived in the same house here for 15 years. And that's right right here right so by the time i did the media and all that jazz i got home and there was probably already 50 people at the house like they were already having their their celebratory party and it was it was it was fun and people just kept pouring in the rest of the night i heard in your in your press conference you said i'm just looking forward to quiet evening and watching the broncos yeah all i mean i wanted to go home and watch the bowl and do you remember the super ball i didn't even watch it because we we i remember somebody came in during the presser and said that they just that the first series we snapped out of the end zone for safety.

So it was an ominous start. And they were getting crushed at halftime. And I made a real effort to try to watch a second house and calm everybody down, or the second half, and calm everybody down at the house and was ready to watch the second half. And they returned the opening kickoff. And I would turn the TV off and said, no one turns the TV on again.

Let's party. There was about 100 people all celebrating as if they had won the Phoenix Open. Yeah. Rightfully so. That's exactly what you do. I remember showing up the next morning. because I left my car there. I was there.

I left my car. I show up at 2 p.m. or whatever it was. I mean, it was late in the day. It was a long night. I show up. I was texting. I was like, hey, I'm coming to get my car.

My keys are there somewhere or whatever. Come in. You walk down the stairs. Same exact gear that you'd had on the night before. Broncos gear. You come in, you stumble down the stairs. You sit on your couch. You're looking at me.

I was like, dude, I need to get my car like my keys or somewhere in here. Then you had a water bottle in your hand. And you took it and poured the entire. Remember that? You're making this story. You're going to go while you're sitting on your couch. I can't even. Hey, I don't blame it.

Find your keys and go. It was so good. There's a lot of truth in that. It was so good. I want to go to a story. This is like, that's an incredible story because that night was unbelievable. But one of your first wins ever, minus the Colorado Open, the Argentine Open or Argentine. I don't know how you say it.

You went down there and I want to let you tell the story. But basically you're going down there. You're a young kid just turned pro. And you're going against the great Anhelle Cabrera in his home country. at his home place and all the fans are out there obviously rooting for their local guy you end up beating him on the 72nd hole some disappointed fans there but you want him over i want you to tell the whole story how that went down because it's a cool story yeah it wasn't uh that was 2006 so it was um it was it was after i've been on tour for a year lost my card i'd had a couple years on the on the nationwide tour

back then um so i know it was kind of had my beating the water kind of had my bearings as a pro and whatever and I went down there. My dad has been going down there since probably the early 90s. It used to be a big European tour event before their economy collapsed. And it was a huge event. And he went down. He won it early. And he ended up going back down there every year and playing. My dad's a big hunter. He loves going down there. And that's like the mecca for dove hunting on earth. And he goes down there numerous times a year, typically. And he used to use that tournament as he got older as a bullshit excuse to go down there and hunt and just have something to do. So we tagged along. Hayes went with us and played there.

Somehow finagled his way into the tournament. Not surprising. Yep. And yeah, played really, really well and got paired up with Cabrera on Sunday. And like you said, it was kind of cool. It was a little bit of a free-for-all down there. Like, no ropes, like tons of people out there watching Cabrera, which is a hell of a player, awesome guy.

I think he'd, yeah, I actually don't think he'd won yet. He won the U.S. Open the next year, and I think he won August after that. But he was already, like, a gun over in Europe. It's like a really, really good player. So we had tons of people out there watching it. And, like, they weren't rooting against me, but they were very much so rooting for Cabrera. And I, honest to God, I don't really remember, but I think I had it fairly under control coming in. I don't remember if I won by one or two or three or something like that.

But won the tournament, and then we're sitting there on 18 Green. They're doing the wrap-up deal. everybody is sitting on the green, you know, and they interviewed the low AM kid. And then they interviewed Cabrera's a runner up. And they're all up there talking, giving their speeches in Spanish. And I can speak some decent Spanish. And I was sitting there thinking, I know, and I knew my dad back when he won, gave his speech in Spanish and did a pretty good job. I've heard from a number of people, he crisscrossed a handful of words here and there.

But, uh, what are you going to do? Yeah, exactly. But I think they, they respected the fact that, like, at least you tried, right? Yeah. So I'm sitting there thinking like still I have no idea. I can I'm a lot better off if I just start winging it and then thinking about what I'm going to say. And I and I listened to the two guys talk already. So it was like in my brain what they said.

I'm like, cool. I can do this. And I got up there and I didn't really know on all the time and and the whole round. You know, we hardly talk to each other. He speaks pretty good English. He doesn't like to act like he does. He doesn't want people to know he does. He just will say, what happens a me go.

He goes me, Gordito. Same as you probably But you know I got up there and I did the did the spiel in in Spanish and sat back down right next to on hell and he looks at me He's like just this look of be-wolderman. He's like basically was like what the fuck was that like where where is that been He's like I've been talking shit about you all day. You understood everything I said and I just I asked was like was that good and he just reached over and gave me hug. He's like yeah, that was awesome. He was so he was like so he was so much more excited and he was like so he was so much more excited and just about the fact that I got up there and gave a speech in Spanish, then anything that seemed like for the whole debt. And from then on, that guy's like been my freaking boy. Like, I played, it was actually, that was, I think that was 2006. In the very next year, when I won that Johnny Walker

in Australia got European status, and I went over there and he was still playing there. And we got paired up a handful of times over there. And like, he was, he was just been awesome to me ever since that, that tournament down there. And it was pretty cool. Yeah, he's Anheel's one of the best. Yeah, he's fantastic. He does speak very good English. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

He just doesn't like to go. But let's go to your first masters. After you win Phoenix, you get in your first masters, which happens to be your dad's last masters. I'll tell you one more thing about Onhell was pretty funny. He won the U.S. Open. I think it was the next year, maybe two years later. And he gave his speech in Spanish through an interpreter.

And I saw him, I don't know if it was the next week or the week after. And I was like, hey, let me go, what was that? I did yours in Spanish. You don't do our. as in English and he says to me he says few more people watching me that's fair that's fair he's like yep okay he's incredible one of those ball

strikers oh yeah I mean just stripes it yeah but we do have to talk about the masters I know at some point we have to because you do finish tied for a eighth and your first ever won happened to be your dad's last ever one as a competitor was that something that was kind of a distraction or was that something that was this is pretty cool that I'm starting and he's he's stepping away honestly it was kind of both I was very

excited that they did not Paris together. That was kind of the rumbling going along. It was what they were going to. And I was playing really well then, and I just didn't really want to be a side show. I was playing great. And I loved the golf course suits my game to a T. And I was like, I legitimately think

that I could win there. Like, it's, that's, my version of golf is, is what Augusta is. And they were all trying to make this big deal about and I guess like, as I get older, probably in the future, I'll look back, and it probably was a pretty cool deal, but at the time,

I didn't think it was a big deal. Like, I'm like, my dad's played Augustus since I was born. Yeah. You were the first father-son duo to ever play. Right. And the same masters. Which is a neat deal. But to me, like, it's second nature, except going back from when I was a little kid to be there

with my dad. And I was, for me, it was just really cool that I actually got to play this time for real. You know, excuse me, we played practice rounds together, par three together, all that. obviously having barbecues cooking out hanging out the houses all week and and you know he was he was like 60 61 then so I mean he wasn't very competitive at this time the course kind outgrew him was a little long for him and and I didn't really I didn't really want to play with him to be perfectly honest with you like it is what it is I wanted to play with more competitive guys and I

And again, like it all worked out great. I played really well. But looking back now and probably 20 years from now, it would have been incredible to say that I got to play with my dad in the masters. But when it was going on, I didn't, like I said, I didn't want to be a side show. Like I don't, it's not my nature to go hunt down cameras and kind of make a spectacle out of things. And I felt like that's what they were trying to do to both of us there. And I just didn't, I didn't think that it was warranted. And I was just there to play a tournament.

Yeah. and my dad was also playing a tournament. It was really cool that he was there. Like I said, the whole week worked out perfectly where I got to play all the pre-tournament rounds with him. And then once competition was there, it was all about competition. You say, like, that's my version of golf. That's what I love. Like, looking at a guess, it's like there's a lot of right to left holes, things like that.

You're a guy that normally moves it left to right. What about that place makes you think, like, yeah, this is my spot? Just a lot of creativity, a lot of shot making on the same. second shots. So much slope in the greens that the greens that that year it was rock hard. I finished even par and finished top 10. It was just incredibly difficult and and back when I could actually play worth the shit, it was like the harder the better for me. You know, I liked it when it was firm. I'd like to shape it both ways, not necessarily off the T, but into the greens I like shape it both ways. You can use the contours there. You could use the

speed to your advantage. And the greens were so firm and so fast that I felt like people don't make putt. And I was always a really good lag putter, but my putting has never been a strong suit. So I felt like there's very few weeks through the year where you can really shine through with ball striking. And that week, like if you hit it better than everybody else, you're going to be up the top. You know, just bearerways and greens intact when you can and just sneak in a few birdies here in there because it was it was like I said it was rock hard really really difficult and it was a lot of fun

there's another week like that the u.s. open where you were actually i think leading the u.s. open at shenicock but the year that they lost the greens they lost the course it went to an absolute gong show out there you feel like the USDA owes you a major championship in that you were leading before i was i wasn't leading definitely you were right there though right yeah i was a fish out of water is what i was i was 24 years old i was i was living on an air mattress out here playing a mini tour and I qualified for the US Open and I shot even par the first two days it was like that that was one of the first first tournaments I'd like that big big tournaments had ever played it was awesome like I was just telling something about this the other day where Chinnecock

that week from I think I got I got there on Saturday or Sunday the previous weekend from that Sunday through the Friday was still to this day that purest golf course I've ever seen it was an absolute perfect shape like could not be better um we played tons of practice rounds we played nine on sunday 18 Monday Tuesday I played 27 holes on Wednesday my dad's caddy was caddy for me we played it was so good I was like I couldn't get enough the golf courts played 18 and I was like I don't play nine more like this place is literally the best golf course I've ever seen and then I shot 68 72 the first two rounds was even uh had like a 2 pm t time or something on Saturday it was it was a nightmare like I was so

nervous when I was getting there and we drove up to the golf course and there were caddies in the putting green as we were driving into the parking lot they were throwing balls in the ground they're bouncing up 20 feet over their heads and I'd never seen anything like that I literally didn't even know what was going on and I was already nervous as I'll get out and then I saw that and I'm like can I just withdraw like I don't I don't I can't do this right so missed the green on one or excuse me missed the fairway on one chopped it up on the green hit a pretty good shot I had 30 40 footer downhill side winder. My dad's caddy

was looping for me. We walked behind the green, put the bag down, and I cleans my ball, and he comes back, and he's, and I'm looking at the putt. And I told him, I said, go get the bag, because I can't keep this putt on the green. Like, it's, I'm going to need another club. And he told me, he's like, just put it over here to the high point and let it fall down. I was like, yeah, I know how to play golf.

That's, that's what I'm going to do, right? So I just tap it over here, and it went 30 yards off the front of green. Oh, what did you need that? I shot 82, 85. I shot even part of the first two days. And I shot 27 over on the weekend. Was that the round? Was it Friday where you hit in the bunker?

I think on eight is the part three. You had like a great bunker shot to like three feet or four feet or whatever it was. And you missed it and we rolled back into the same bunker. Yeah, it was Sunday. Like after I shot 12 over on Saturday, I think we were second out on Sunday. And JJ Henry and I, we, I think it was seven. the par three old

yeah a little redan green the pin was front left and it was just browned out impossible rock hard and we watched I think it was Mayfair and I don't remember who the other one was in front of us

we watched them both hit in the left greenside bunker both blast onto the green both put it back in the bunker god both get out on the green I think they both made six and then JJ and I both hit it in that bunker

he half knifed his out about 25, 30 feet long And it was just like, okay, you're going to be back in the bunker now. And I almost hold mine. I went about two feet past. And he, JJ putted it back in the bunker. And then he splatted it out and he made it. And the whole time I'm watching it thinking, like, I want to jam this in.

I got a two-footer that's probably a cup out left if you're going to baby it or just like rip it in. And I didn't have the balls to rip it in. So I was like, I'm just going to tap it over here to the left and trickled out on the high side. I'm waiting to tap it in. And it just keeps on trickling. And it goes back into the bunker.

Neat. That was the whole, they were like watering it in between groups, right? They started watering it after our group. Right after. His group, I remember that. His group was one. They're like, we got a problem. Now that Kevin's made a 12, we should start a while. Well, after we've had four guys on here and they've all been in the bunker and then putted it back in the same bunker. I think we need to do something about this. That's fun. You've dealt with some injuries to your hand the last few years. It's great to see you getting back. You want to give us a quick update on kind of how your hand sits right now and all that?

Yeah, this is 100%. It's good to go. Awesome. Yeah, it was a mess, a long story that's not worthy of anything, but it took about three or four years to find the root cause and finally got it fixed. And unfortunately, what I've been trying to dig myself out of now is all the weird motion and body habits that I got into while that was seemingly an unfixable problem. But it's good to go now, trying to get ready to go back out. I'll play a couple of times this summer. but really just kind of got an eye on the start of the next season. So I'm hoping, I mean, who knows in today's world if they're going to end up combining the season, hopefully we go off with that any more hitches and it resets is what I'm hoping for.

So it's like the second or third week in September will be the new season that I'm really just kind of hoping to be ready to roll for that. Feeling confident, though, that you can get back out there and get amongst it? Yes and no. I mean, I've been away from it for so long that I wouldn't say I'm feeling confident. confident by any means, but it's the last, last couple weeks is finally the ball striking is starting to turn around a little bit. You know, it used to be my bread and butter and it's been just MIA for five years. So hasn't, hasn't been overly exciting trying to, trying to pin that down, but I've been

starting to see a lot of improvement here lately. So if that can stick around and, you know, the cool thing is like I've, I, I still see the game the same exact way. Every shot approaches or presents itself to. to me the way that it did when I used to play well. It's just been frustrating for the longest time now I can't hit those same shots. I still see them all and I react to them all and I want to hit the shots and it hadn't really been there. But it's been literally the motion's been so out of whack that I can't really repeat it.

But it's been really getting a lot better on the range. Yeah. That's great news. I mean, just to get the pain away and be able to get back out there and see what happens. Yeah. But your biggest test is about to come because I believe emergency nine is next. You want to get it a little E-9 right now? Would you like to get to-

No, no. I like, well, give everyone a quick update. Like, what's your status? Like, how many starts do you got? What do you got to do? All that stuff. I should like, how many left? To be honest, I don't even know what I need to do.

I've got 23 events. I'm going to play one. I'm going to play in a couple weeks. That the John Deere turned into the workday event at Memorial. I'm going to go play that just because I love the golf course, and I'm not in the memorial. And I don't know. Who knows what's going to happen next year.

But I'm not planning on, unless I, play really well. I won't be in it next year either, but it's a tournament I've historically play well at. So I was like, hey, you know what? I'll go out there and play that one just for the hell of it. Then after that, so I'll essentially have 22 events for when the next season kicks off. So it's pretty much full season. So once one September rolls around at the fries up and nap and I'll kickstart that with 22 events like. Beautiful. I love it. Turn their ass up. Get amongst it. Now let's get into the little fun. We do a little thing called E9 here, Stadge. Just nine quick questions.

more of a fun type of little rapid fire right here. Question we ask everybody, if there was a movie being made on the life of Kevin Stadler, what actor would you want to play your role? Yeah, dude. It's real. He's probably dead, but I'd say Chris Farley. He is.

He's dead. He's not probably dead. He's dead. He's dead, but I would probably say Chris Farley. We like to give our opinions on this. I like that. I think John Daly picked Chris. Well, John Daly picked Chris Farley and Matt Damon,

which I think that for what it's worth. Can I, a little bit of a range? Can I pick Colt? Yeah, you can pick Colt. Have you guys ever been mistaken for one another? My mom thought that when he played really well at Hilton Head, you were last group, Hilton Head, right? I don't know if you remember.

This was pretty funny. I put like shit that week, and I was, and I'd finished right before you started, and I walked across the first tee because I was too lazy to go around it, to go to the parking lot, and you guys were on the first tee. I do remember. I just walked right across the first tee to get to get out of there. And my mom called me that afternoon, and she's like, hey I thought you weren't playing very good

and I just saw you tee off your own mother and I was like he's at least three inches shorter than me come on don't take that Colt oh my God by the way you're welcome if people confused if Colt could act he could play

yeah who'd you have for him Brian Bumgartner I don't know who it is you watch the office yeah Kevin oh yeah only the greatest dude of all time yeah that's a great I had Dr. Phil

for you I feel like you're deeper than what surface level. You're a very deep individual for those. He's from your neck of the woods. He is. So I respect him. You just got to grow a little stash. All right.

Well, I've heard you don't like this nickname. I don't. There's not. So I know. You have to do that. We know you don't like the nickname Baby Walrus. But I heard VJ Singh gave you a nickname at Torrey Pines early on your rookie year. What was that?

The hippo. I thought it was a blue whale or something. I heard from a very good source. The blue whale. They were asking tour players what your nickname should be, since your dad was the walrus. Vijay says, I don't know, the hippo? Yeah, I don't know what it was.

So if you had to choose one, which one would be, hippo or baby walrus? Fuck. N.A. N. N.A. Yeah. None of the above? Yeah.

I don't know. Nothing aquatic. Nothing aquatic. All right. We got a solution to that coming up a little bit later in the show. All right, number three. If you go back in time, you had to trade lives with one of these people whose life would you rather live John Elway or Garth Brooks

who yeah either one you have to pick Stads you're a big Garth guy I would say we've shared a guy I'd have to say Garth let's not get into it but yeah sorry number seven your stud but I got to say Garth yeah Garth's a if you're a country guy that's a tough one to pass up on

I'm with yeah I'm with Garth yeah all right I'll allow we know you're big into Clash of Clans negative what the hell okay delete this dad's you used to be into clash of clans for a very small time well your friends

claim that you're big into clash of clans they don't know what they're talking about that's true okay now we've got to call it a different question that's probably true we still hit that I still want to know the answer to it okay let's go with it we can edit this somehow okay just act like you're a big

big fan of it okay what's your clash of clans gamer tag and how much money have you spent on the game it was chief something and uh chief you know your gamer tag I don't remember. Chief what?

Chief Purdymaker. Yeah. Chief Purdyager. It's something. It's something good. Chief what it was. You know. You know how I know it because Matt Jones

is a clash clans freak. Yeah, people love it. And his name was Dom. And I thought that was really funny. Dom. Yeah. And I'm like, why the hell did you name yourself Dom? He's like for Dominator.

So you know, Chief Dominator. Yeah. So I'm going to be. I had never spent a dollar on me. I don't know how it works. I've never played it. But you're the chief dominator. Who told you he likes class of claims just so we can verify?

Probably Jones. No. Scooter. Oh, no. He knows you as good as anybody. Yeah, dude. Yeah. No.

Scooter doesn't. That's all right. Scottie doesn't know. We got chief dominator out of the whole thing. Chief Dominator is beautiful. That's the perfect, the perfect gamer tag, whatever you call it. All right. This is an estimate, stats.

To your best of your knowledge. How many. Did you attend your senior year of college at USC? Four? Four for the year. Yeah. Oh, yeah. All in the fall.

Yeah. Because at that point in time, correct me. I think I had four classes and I went to each of them once. One time? Yeah. Orientation or whatever. Correct me if I'm wrong, but at that time, if you're eligible at the beginning of the year before it changed, like you're eligible for the whole year. So if you enter your senior year, boom, you can play the whole year.

That's fact. Cool. And I have some friends that told me you hated your classes so much, but you were bored that you would just show up to their classes and hang out with them because you're like, I have nothing to do. I'm definitely not going to my class. I went to a couple classes, but they were not exactly classes. They were, uh, I'd already taken a class twice. And it was a, it was a theater class.

It was movies every Thursday night from seven to 11. They'd have a blockbuster movie release and, uh, have an actor, a producer, director, or somebody come up and talk. And it was, it was badass. You could have got that at New Mexico. No, you couldn't have got, couldn't have got that. Good class to it. Went to that twice and then kept going to it.

All right. A smooth four, your whole senior year. Pretty solid. That's a good run. It might have been more, but I'm guessing. Four's fine. Four is a good estimate. All right, you got to name your Mount Rushmore of Colorado Sports,

excluding Sleas. You can't use it. Well, there's one free spot open. You can even do your top five, top six, whatever. Favorite Colorado athletes. John Elway, Terrell Davis, Joe Sackick, Peter Forsberg, and Larry Walker. Wow, Patrick Wogg gets left off?

Yeah. Oh, my God. Dude, that's a tight cup. He did. It is. And I'd back all those up again. No, Peyton Manning either. Yeah, I mean.

No, you only have a few spots. Wa and Peyton were very short-lived there. Yeah. You know. That's fair. Would Slees have been in there? The golf mount rushmore I'm in there. Slees would be.

Yeah, do the quick golf, Colorado, golf, Mount Rushmore. Uh, me, my dad. Duval. Duval doesn't count. What? Why? Late. He's late, but how long has it been since you live there?

You got to be like native Colorado. I'm not from native Colorado. He thinks he's going to make this list. Well, I grew up there. I want everything you could, I want everything you can win. You went to high school. You got to go to high school there.

Oh my God. Windham. Well, all right. Then it's Wyndham. Me. Tolan. All right. Not you.

Yes, the list is shit. The list. You're not going to throw hell everyone in the mix. He'd probably be a good one. All right. Paul Obato. Paul of all. Okay, these are good.

These are names nobody knows, and that just shows how much you're shitting on me right now, which I don't appreciate. All right. Oh, shit. Oh, God. That's okay. It's fine.

Can't take me anywhere. All right. Number eight, we know you like to read a lot. First off, last book you read. Honestly, I don't know the name of it. I've been reading some Harlan Colbin old books. They're just kind of trash summer novels that you can rip through. All right.

Well, for those that don't know you that well out there, you're not the most positive human in the world. So is it true that Tony Robbins is your favorite author? If you talk to a certain dentist in town, he would claim that's the case. You and Tony Robbins, a lot of like. I agree. I think motivational speaker could be in your future. Why not?

Hey, when I'm off the golf course, I'm perfectly positive. That's actually very true. Yeah. See, that's one thing. A lot of people don't know. I mean, you can be an absolute dickhead on the golf course, but then you're really nice off. I'm a dickhead on the golf course? No.

Not you. I'm just saying other people can be. Okay. No, just in general. People are different at work than they are. Yeah, it's like, you know, I've had so many people ask me over the years about my dad, like guys that play with them pro amps are like, is your dad like always grumpy and angry? And I'm like, no, what the hell?

Like, because he was always kind of scruff and pissed off on the golf course. I'm like, no, that's him on the golf course. Yeah, 100%. But that's couldn't have been any more different off of it. Yeah. So it's, yeah, it's funny because there's a lot of validity and a lot of truth to the. what people say is like what people are on the golf course is what they are in real life like you get a lot of their true nature but it's also competitive golf is a whole other animal totally agree different beast going off like yeah can piss off anybody it can ruin any attitude yeah i don't care

who you are especially when we're playing at the highest level all right last question right your epic victory party after the phoenix open not counting yourself which you definitely number one who is the drunkest pj true player there probably Mallinger. Yeah, that's who I was going to go with it. That's correct. Charlie Hoffman, I think, if Danny Pelly was a pro golfer, he would have won that award.

Yeah, Denny Pelley, Director of membership at the Rock. I agree with Malinger. We actually showed up to your party together. I saw TC yesterday and on Sunday, Tim Clark, and he didn't say anything about it,

but I remember him back there like the week after he was like, that's the drunkenest household I've ever said. in because they all showed up late, but Malley was part of that crowd. And they had, they'd been up to some fun before that too. Yeah, I agree. And I also heard that you still struggle with the smell of fireball to this day. Oh, God, yeah, I won't touch that.

That's pure disaster. One night, right. Andrew Buckle was throwing chicken wings into your ceiling fan, and he's like, chickens can fly. Buck, buckle could have been. He's in the mix, too. All right, this is the solution right here, dude, to your nickname dilemma. I've already solved it for you.

USC guy, you're a huge Trojan. I propose that we go with your new nickname, the Magnum. That's incredible nickname. The biggest Trojan there is. That's pretty funny. Yeah, all right. It's also not applicable. Forget this.

I like it. The smallest and whatever else, you're now known as the Magnum. No. Awesome. Stadswell, man, this has been, sorry, excuse me, Magnum. This has been an absolute pleasure. I already have a nickname. I don't need one.

No, Magnum's better. Magum's better. Thanks for joining us on subpar. All right. Thanks, guys. And that was the one, the only, Kevin Stadler. You know where you stand with Kevin. He's very dry, but you know where you stand.

And I enjoy it. That's the most I've ever seen him open up. Yeah, dude, he's a tough nut to crack, like especially for media and stuff like that. But we known him for a while. It was cool to get his story because he hasn't told it for a long. A lot of people just like, where did Kevin Stadler go? Last thing we know he was winning the Phoenix Open, you know, and then all of a sudden, bam, he's gone.

I know that wrist injury was a hard thing to get diagnosed. He explored a lot of different options. But for the first time, like, A, he looks great. B his wrist. He says, you know, 100% my wrist is fine. So looking forward to having him back out there. But dude, he's fun. And he's a really, like, you kind of heard some of the stories.

He's not the super Mr. Outgoing Social guy, but he's a really, like, smart dude, which he, like, tries to hide a lot. But he does a ton of reading and knows a lot of stuff. For not being an outgoing guy, he has hands down the greatest victory party I've ever been to from anybody that's won on the PGA tour. I've never seen more people celebrate as if they won on the BJA tour as I did that. Now, there was a hundred people in there all celebrating like, we won. We did it.

It was the one for the ages. Yeah, it was a blast. But it's cool talking to a guy like that who grew up the son of a master's champion. Like, I mean, those are some big shoes to feel. And Kevin's had a great career. One of the best ball strikers I've ever seen, you know, besides the injuries, the anchor band really hurt Kevin, I believe. But it'll be interesting to see if he can come back. He seems like he's starting to get.

he's not quite Tony Robbins positive. You're right, right. But he's working his way there. Yeah, Kevin's the type of dude. He goes into the Phoenix Open wins and he's like, oh, I'm playing like shit. I stink. My game's no. He's never like high on his game ever.

He could be playing incredible. He's never like, dude, I'm really optimistic. I think I might win this week. But for the first time in the last couple weeks talking with him, he's like, dude, it's actually like I'm starting to hit some golf shots. I'm starting to play a little bit of golf right. It starts to feel like old me again. So like I'm pretty optimistic for him.

I think, you know, hopefully he gets out there and kind of starts hitting it. the way he did because like you said when he was playing at his peak it was hard to find a guy t to green that was that was better than kevin stabler for sure well i know we are all going to be rooting for kevin staddler when he gets back out there but this part's tough for me sleaze the gambling picks last week um it's very depressing yeah my uh my squad didn't show up before we get there break it down real quick my number one overall pick his caddy tested positive for coronavirus he withdrew yep so Producer Mark, let me substitute a pick.

And I was very gracious in allowing you to do that. Well, I should, okay. Kudos to me for being the sportsman that I am. There's a goddamn coronavirus attacking the PGA tour. I mean, I'm sorry. You draft the guy and he blows his knee out. You got a guy with a blown knee, you know? Well, that's different.

Yeah, it was before they tee off. So my next pick goes to Webb Simpson, family member test positive. He's out. Yeah, he's got a big family. I mean, I did have to go with, with this, my third pick, which was very difficult, Justin Thomas.

Yeah. I mean, who normally is just a shoe in ATM goes out, miscut. I went 0 for four this past week missing the cut, which is, I think that's borderline impossible. You think the pressure is getting to these guys, knowing that you draft them every week, words probably trickling out. Like, hey, you're on Colts team this week. They're probably going to buckle.

They're probably going to call me and be like, please stop picking me. Yeah. I was on fire. You're going to be like the NCAA curse or the Madden curse, being on the cover of that. Yeah, and the Drake. You and Drake. I was on fire before this pandemic hit, and now I can't pick my fucking nose since we came back. This is what I needed, dude.

I just need a little quick 20, regroup with the team. Let's calm things down. Let's get back to basics. And now the sleeves train is thumping. Producer Mark, give us a little, what happened last week? I still think you got a ways to go. Dude, brick by brick. Like Colt said, apparently his picks didn't know was his birthday weekend because they all missed the cut.

You know, Drew, you had two guys missed the cut in Justin Rose and Corey Connors, but you also had two guys in the top 11 with Victor Hovelin having a Tee. 11 finish and Bryson Deschambeau finishing T6 to close the gap to $429,000. I'll have that by the turn. 3.2 million to 4.8. $400,000 is all that separates. I remember just recently is about $2 million. So you're making a run chopping it up.

Let's get to it this week. Make our picks. You get the first pick against. Being that I have the honor, I wonder who you're going to pick. Teeing off first from Dallas, Texas for Team Sleas will be Mr. Bryson D. Shambo, aka the money man, quick stat right here. Last six starts for Mr. Bryson. Fifth, second, fourth, third, eighth, sixth. So I notice a trend. I'm a numbers guy. That seems to be there's a lot of high finishes. I'm picking him until he stinks.

Yeah, it seems like you're starting to cheat on your boy Kyrdeck, Alfredonrott, and I'm paying homage to him right now. That's because you know you're leaving his team and you're going to team Bryson. No, I'm all team rat. It's on the back of my shirt. As soon as he's back in a field, he's coming he's going to be back on the he'll be rostered guarantee well that was going to be my pick but since i'm not allowed to pick the same one as you which is absolutely assinine in my opinion um i'm going to go with a guy who shot a little eight under par on sunday at this tournament last year uh to finish tie for 13th he's 12th in strokes gained approach 20 to one odds since you stole my pick i'm going with our guy victor hovlin okay all right not mad at it he was team slees last

week i'll pass him pass him to you this week see if he performs like he did for me All right, you got Victor Hovlin. I'm not mad at that. Next pick for Slees? No, no, it's my pick now. Oh, okay. You don't get to just pick first. Don't look at my sheet.

You don't get to pick right out of the gate every time. I'm just used to having the honor. Yeah. Okay, well, mine, this guy is 33 to 1. I played this golf course last year. I really think you can overpower this place. I think long hitters have a huge advantage. Oh, boy.

He's due for a big week. The guy has zero weaknesses, in my opinion. It's just all about closing the door. 33 to 1. Tony Fee now. Well, that was mine. Well, and now I don't have the sheet in front me, so I got to go find a new pick. All right. Upon further review, being that you stole my pick with Tony Fee now, I've gone back to the board and Team Sleeves selects Ricky Fowler. Not trending, just like I noticed this trend up here with Bryson and all these low numbers. I thought you're a numbers guy. I'm a numbers guy,

not trending. I'm going contrary in here, just knowing that he's really good. At some point it's got a click. I think three weeks, you know, he's played a bunch of weeks in a row. I think at some point, it's got to turn around and click and i think he's a big upside for middle two i mean you go back to the beginning of the year there's no chance you could get him between 26 and 50 to one to win a tournament so i'll go rickie put him on the squad coming off and off week yeah he uh took the week off regrouped uh he's kind of somewhat the host at this event yeah he should play good here up your title sponsor all right well let's see who you got for the third my next one let me cover my sheet or do i go two in a row no i think i go now and then you you lead it off these don't matter these

these are these are where you make up all your juice all right i'm going back to the well with the guy that I picked earlier this year. Iron player, great putter. You played in this thing. You got to go so low at this tournament. You shot 700 and finished like 50. 59th for 700. You have got to go low. There's a couple ways to do it. Hitting bombs is one. This guy doesn't do that, but he puts it and irons it as good as anyone. Adam Hadwin's 60 to one. You do like Adam Hadwin a lot. Dude, he's rock solid. Okay, this guy finished fifth place last year in Detroit. He's one of the best chippers and putters on the planet. This golf course, you don't have to drive it necessarily that straight. If you can carry it over about 2.75, I think you're really, you can really do some

damage around here. And like I said, great showing here last year. 60 to one, Brant Snetiker. Well, mother of God, that's my second pick. I got to go back to the well. I don't know what to tell you. Damn it. All right. Well, being that we are, there's a lot of overlap here. I feel like you may have, there may be a rat in my team room here, giving away my picks. But all right, you took Brant. Brant was my second guy. I'm audbling out of that. I'm going into another great ball striker. not sure if he's got the heat with the putter to keep up with how many low scores come out this week, but he hits it incredible. I'll go Kyle Stanley.

He's 80 to 1. Kyle Stanley, nice player. Thank you. Solid pick. All right. For my last pick, I'm all about confidence. And I think this guy's got a lot of confidence right now. He's coming in 80 to 1.

Had an unbelievable achievement last week, finished tied for third, has special temporary membership on the PGA tour. Didn't have to use a sponsor exemption for this week in Detroit. Will Gordon, I think this golf course sets up perfect for him. Like I said, if you can carry it a long ways in the air, you have such an advantage around this place. Writing high after last week, too. What a cool story that was for him, man. So not even on the board last week. Brand new draftee, first time available this week.

So Will Gordon step on up. Team Bolt. Yeah, so I need my team to show up this week. Last week was embarrassing. I never thought that would ever happen. But you know what it is what it is. Mm-hmm. That's good point.

We don't look in the past. We look forward. Look forward. And speaking of, next week, we'll be joined by arguably the best hair in the game of golf. Without question. And one of the most opinionated men in the world of golf, Mr. Brandl-Chambly. Yes, the Silver Fox himself will be in studio. We will do our best to get him to say something mean or outrageous that causes huge stir amongst golf Twitter.

I love that. I love that. I love that. You just say golf or golfing. That'll do it. I'm sure he'll say something more controversial than that. All right. Well, that's it for us.

We'll talk to you all next week on golf subpar.