Subpar - Kevin Streelman Interview: Going back to back at Pebble Beach with NFL legend Larry Fitzgerald, changes he would make as PGA Tour Commissioner, and beginning his golf journey at Duke University

Episode Date: May 5, 2020

On this week's episode of GOLF's Subpar, two-time PGA Tour Winner Kevin Streelman joins former PGA Tour pro Colt Knost and his close friend and on course rival Drew Stoltz for an exclusive, in-studio, interview. Kevin goes into his budding Pebble Beach Pro-Am dynasty with NFL legend Larry Fitzgerald, his rise from the mini tours, greasing his way into good Duke tickets in college, and what he would change if he was Commissioner of the PGA Tour.

Hello world. Welcome to this week's episode of golf subpar. I am Colt Nost. As always, joined by the one and only Drew Stoltz. Drew, how we live in, bud? Good to be with you, my man. Living okay. Living, living correct, waiting for this corona to end. I feel like we're getting near the, I can see light at the end of the tunnel at least. There is some live golf coming soon, which is good news for us. But keeping on, keeping on. We got a great interview this week with local legend Kevin Strelman and one other special guest, Colty. Yes, the young 12-year-old sensation Pete Meyer. who just played at a massive match

against the one and only Riggs from Barstool Sports. Can't wait to hear what Pete has to say about his victory over Riggs. But like you said, big interview coming your way, coming off a huge interview with John Daly. But first, we must address one thing. And that is, our first ever guest, John Romm, reached out to you and had a little complaint

about one of our guests recently. This is great, dude. So I'm sitting around last week doing nothing, per usual, sitting around phone rings, a text. look down John Rom like okay maybe wants to play golf or something click it open he's like hey dude um just catching up on some of the podcast here watching the Brian Erlacker video watching the Brian Erlacker video how the hell did I not get picked for the football team and I was like at first it didn't register I was like what are you talking about it all right back what are you talking about he's like dude you just drafted a whole team and I didn't get picked for anything he's like I'm rattling off his stats me he's like I'm six three 220 pounds I've never been injured before he's like I was like the GM of the team or something like that he's like rattling off why I should be on the team and I was like yeah dude just shit like you're absolutely right like you should have been on that team and he's like what's erlacker's number i want to text him and i was like okay maybe and he's like actually hold on i think i got it and he sends me the number and i was like yep that's it he's like i'm texting him now

and then he responds back later with a snapshot of what erlacker said he's like you're absolutely right that's why i be a shitty gm he was like he was like legit mad come to think of it he is a big boy like i mean he could definitely probably especially amongst pjraturedlers he could suit up and handle himself on the football field yeah if we were redrafting right now like it was all spur of the moment, but like, Ron probably needs to be plug in the middle somewhere. Big body. Yeah, for sure. You might turn into like a sensation, like Tom Brady. He can plug the whole. And the fact that he's competitive enough to like watch an interview where we're doing like a make believe fictional golf football draft and being like, yo, why am I not on that team? That's why that kid's, he's a killer

dude. He wants to, he was competitive with everything. I love it. But all right, Drew, it's time to welcome in a very special guest, 12-year-old Pete Myers, who is now an internet sensation after beating the one and only rigs from barstool sports at pinehursts just the other day pete how we doing good are you i just like to say thank you so much for let me on your show this is awesome oh oh it's a privilege to have you thanks for taking the time and i think the world wants to know tell us a little bit more about this match i know you won three and two but uh was it ever that close um at the start of the back nine um i was one up and um um um I knew I just had to make a bunch of pots,

and I knew how to just keep playing my game to stay in that match. And I finished him all off on 16, and I called the three putt on 15. I love it. Nice. Awesome. I heard you were kind of generous with some of his putts. I would have been way harder on him. No gimmies for Ricks.

Yeah, I've never played match play before. Oh, okay. That's fair. Well, it sounds like you got a big future in it. Pete, let me ask you this. After playing 18 holes with Riggs, if you were his coach, what part of his game do you think needs the most work? Um, I see, I think he did really well, but just none of the thoughts were fallen. Um, he is a really good golfer and it was, it wasn't easy to, uh, take, man, we got to teach you some trash talking. You got to be meaner to Riggs. This is the most polite champion. I've ever met. I love it. But by the way, I don't know if you remember,

we met a few years ago out at Greyhawk. Oh, yeah, that was awesome. My brother's Junior League Championship. Yeah, out at Greyhawk, that was a really fun time. Myself, Jeff Ogilvie and Graham Delette did a little wedge clinic kind of thing. Great champions all in one place.

Has Colt been an inspiration to you, Pete, as you get going in your golf career? You don't have to lie, Pete. I mean, yeah, you're a PG-HR player, you work really hard to get there. Thanks, Pete. When are you going to be playing next? What's your next tournament? Since of the virus, I actually, it got canceled because of the virus.

I was supposed to play in the, it's called the Junior Rider Cup. and it's out of your field village. Awesome, man. Well, we look for you. We look forward to seeing you do big things in your golf career, and we appreciate you coming on with us. Yeah, thank you so much. Absolutely.

Keep up the good play, man. Sleazy. What a nice kid. He's so much nicer that I definitely was it, 12 years old and than I am now. Absolutely. Any match I win ever, I make sure I rub it in the other person's face

because I don't know when it's ever going to come back again, especially if I was 12 years old and beat a guy who's big on the internet, big in the golf world. I would make sure everyone knew about it. Couldn't be a classier kid. He's going places. I need to work on his trash dog. I need him to work on his trash dog.

We've got to have a little bit of hate out there. He's very media savvy for a 12-year. He's like, hey, I had to play really well. Hats off the rigs. He's a great competitor. That was great, though. But special thanks to Pete for joining us on golf subpar. Our guest this week, Kevin Strillman,

two-time PGA tour winner, and actually winner of an awesome thing the PGA tour used to do called the Kodak Challenge. I'm going to ask him all about that. But he's one of our favorite interviews I think we've had. He was great. Oh, he was incredible. He's coming off the heels of John Daly, big shoes to fill. He was great. We got some stories that, like, you and I were around him a lot just because he lives here locally. Some stories I'd never heard before that were really good. Some pranks from an aforementioned guest, possibly. I love it. Well, let's get right to it. Here's Kevin Streelman on golf subpar. All right. It's time to walk. Welcome in our next guest to the subpar podcast. We've got Kevin Streelman, two-time PGA tour winner, Kodat Challenge winner, by the way. That is a big one that people don't. remember and I'm a big fan of the Kodak challenge and also two-time champion of the AT&T

pebble beach proam with the one the only larry fitzgerald kevin welcome to the program please it's an honor it's an honor to have you we're going to ask you uh larry fitzgerald questions for the next hour and a half so this is going to be a blast i'm used to that this is going to be this is one thing i don't think a lot of the people out there know okay he's a proud alumnus of the duke university he is one of only 11 delta sigma phi fraternity brothers to become a professional athlete. Is that right? In the history of the fraternity.

So obviously your fraternity was a bunch of nerds. That wasn't the jock fraternity at all. I was not the jock craft. I don't remember much. Who are the other 10? I don't know. I never heard of any of the chess champion. I honestly never heard of any of them except for Kevin Trill.

So congratulations. How did you find that? I got skills. All right. Dig it up. Dig it. What was the stereotype of the Delta? What was it?

Delta. Delta, Delta, So what were you guys? It was like mostly northeasterner, a lot of New Yorkers. Okay. Like sons of investment bankers and stuff, that type of stuff. 11 pro athletes all time makes more sense.

The fraternity had been around since like 1934 and they've got 11. But they have 780 CEOs. Yep. That's not important. Right. We're talking about athletes. Yeah, good point. But welcome to the program.

This is on it. I mean, you're one of my favorite people. I love talking to you. So this is going to be great. You also went to Duke University, which are wonderful. producer Mark is not a big fan of just to throw that out there. That's, he's not the only one. Yeah, you probably get a little bit of that, I would think.

You do. So we might as well get right into it. What was it like going to Duke? And obviously one of the most legendary basketball schools of all that. Yeah, and I was there just the greatest years, 97-01. That was, I was the same year as Shane Badiere. We're talking like Elton Brand, Corey McGuette, McGettie, Will Avery, Chris Duhon, Jason Williams. I mean, they beat decent.

They beat everybody. In the 99 team, they lost a Yukon in the championship. I was a bummer. But the best, the best ever, my senior year, 0-1, we played Augusta State's tournament the weekend prior to the Masters. So they gave all the kids Monday passes to the Masters. So spent all Monday my senior year had never been there before. At Augusta walking around watching Duval, Tiger, 01, like top of their games.

We drive back to Duke that afternoon and then they win the national championship. That's a good day. It's the greatest 24 hours. It's a standard day in a college kid's life. memorable. That's unreal. Were you like, I know every guy that goes to Duke is an enormous basketball guy, but at the time, where you like camp out in Chesquiville for tickets type of diehard dude? I did that one night.

I was trying to play golf, pledge of fraternity, and do the 10 out for the basketball ticket. One step at a time. One had to go, and it was the basketball tickets. But fortunately, the line monitor, who's like the most powerful dude at Duke, ended up being a big golfer. We found that out. So we would slide him to the golf course, you know, get him out in the back nine, get him a quick round. and then we would slide us in the kid.

How powerful was this guy? He was pretty powerful. So, I mean, if he wanted to let you to the front of the line, you got in. Yeah, you got in. If he didn't like you, back to the line. You don't even know if you're getting in it. What's like the longest someone will camp out for?

I mean, the season starts, what, end of January, pretty like the ACC, the big games, their kids tending out before Christmas break. Oh, my God. That is insane to me. And like cold temperatures and tens. Finals, too. too like they're studying in there like it's crazy see producer mark that's why they're so great

they've got great fans that's true what kind of what kind of stuff do you have to slide the line monitor to get access like is it 18 holes of golf yeah maybe it doesn't balls or something slightly used my god can you imagine how great a tickets you'd get right now all the golf balls you got scottie cameron's i know you're a big scotty cameron collector yes that thing is impressive how many cameras do you have is that a don't is that a al-zanko if you're listening don't Don't listen. Mute this real quick. Both my wins, we're using Scotty's.

Okay, so that's good. So how many do you have total, though? In the neighborhood of 65. I'll take the over. You're totally wrong. That was an undersell. Totally. They just hang out in the garage?

Do you ever pull one out and be like, oh, this is the one? It's funny. My favorite one, like the one I finished Hartford with is just a beetle off the rack. Literally be on eBay for $8 right now. I tried to get the nice circle tease and the cool stuff to match it and never looked the same, never felt the same as the one that was, I probably used over half my tour starts. Which one did you, which one did you use to bury the last seven at Travelers to win with?

Newport 2. Stainless Steel, probably like 0,03, 04. Right off the rack. See, you people out there that all want these fancy putters, the regular ones work just as good. Where is that one now? Is that in a special spot? It's in the basement kind of in the corner. Yeah, keep that one. Try and keep it from my son. goes down there and just destroys everything.

So I got to be very careful. Yeah, keep that one tucked. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Well, we brought up Larry. We got to do a little bit of Larry talk. You won two times now at the AT&T Pebble Beach with him. For everybody else out there, how did you and Larry first get linked up to be like,

yo, let's start playing in this? Cold knows. I mean, well, you both know. He only picked up the game probably six, seven years ago. Soon after, his dream was to join Whisper Rock and became buddies with Greg. And Greg said, once you break 90, you can join Whisper Rock. So I think he called him that afternoon. He played at PV or something and shot the 89.

Ganey Ranch, I believe. Is it Gany Ranch? Gany, yeah. Shot his 89. He was all Greg got in. And for him, he's just the nicest guy in the world. But when he first got out there, he was well nervous because the average handicapped there is a five or six. Everyone's a good golfer.

And he was at the time, you know, probably 20 handicapped, 1520 handicap. But I just kind of, I was always a fan of his, the way he handles himself, that just the quality of a person he is. And I just would kind of spend time with him. I'd be like, I wasn't, he tells people, I wasn't afraid. to look in the desert for his balls or like be patient with him or help him a little bit as he got going and obviously now he plays more golf than any of us combined so he doesn't need much help but when he got started i just kind of became patient with him and became good friends with him and then when he got into the AT&T he asked steve john if he'd mind if he'd played with me because he just

felt comfortable we'd played a bunch of golf together if i would do it and i said i'd be honored i'd love to then we go and i think we finished second the first year and then one at the next one i I love that Greg, like said, no at first. Yeah. Like, to the most beloved guy in the whole state of Arizona, for sure. And maybe the entire NFL. I mean, just the nicest you know. Nah, bud, you go break 90 and then we'll let you in.

And he went out and busted his butt. You challenge him. He's going to do it. And he got in. And he was actually out at Whispera up today. I saw him. He was there with his red pants. He's always there.

I'm sure. Getting amongst it. So tell us what kind of game does Larry really have? Because there's, you know, there's a lot of rumors out there. he's sandbags and all this, which he's too nice of a guy to do that kind of thing. He posts every score he's ever shot. So give it 100%. What's his strengths?

What's his weaknesses? He is great inside of 150 yards. Obviously, his hands are pretty strong. He's got a good short game, good chipper, bunker player, great putter. Off the tee, he can struggle. I don't know if you saw a video I posted a few weeks back. I'd been holding on to this video for a few years. And Larry was begging me to not release it.

But I felt necessity. I felt like the public. needed something like that. These times are tough and it's like we needed to see what could happen sometimes. And Larry is, I just felt bad for the ball washer to be honest. Yeah, the ball washer got in the way. It's how tell people who have not seen this yet. What goes down to this video? And this will be shown. We have a copy of it. This whole story is an incredible story. This was our first year we played together at AT&T. We get done and we just finished second. We were one of the last groups finishing on the 18th Green of Pebble. As you know as golfers, when you're done,

your final round, it's like you're pretty tired. out, you know, it's just like, and Larry goes, Strills, let's go play another 18. I'm like, what do you mean go play? He's like, Spyglass. Like, why don't, let's go to Spyglass. Like, people are trying to interview him and he wants to go play another 18 and this is like two in the afternoon and Spyglass. So I go, okay, let's go. Me, Larry, my caddy, AJ and his caddy, Mike Zabode, drive over to Spyglass. I go, I'm not going to play. I'm exhausted. I'll grab a beer and I got a beer and a cigar and drove around and watched them play. I'll never, the coolest Larry Fitzgerald story.

I swear this is true. The assistant pro, Larry Fitzgerald, Stan, can we go play? There's literally no one in sight. He goes, yeah, but it's $375 person. And I look at, I'm like, come on, dude. There's nobody we just finished. We played nice. Like, we just run around for 90s.

He's like, I'm sorry. Larry very quietly put his credit card down, took care of everything, didn't make a scene of it or anything. we went out and had a blast. So we play the front nine, we make the turn, we're playing an hour and a half, and we go to number 11. And we're playing music, we're having fun and laughing.

And I'm just like, let me take a look at your swing. He was hitting it terrible off the tee. He can struggle off the tea a little bit. And I caught just one of the most magical moments in golf history where he proceeded to absolute. I'm right, got a good angle down the line. He's looking down the beautiful 11th hole. And there's a poor ball washer that's probably 20 feet

directly down the hill and to the left. And he proceeds to heel, shank this thing, straight down. And it just hits it dead on. And the sound is just priceless. And I just collapsed to the ground. I've never laughed so hard on the golf course. He knocked over. Looks good, Larry.

You should keep doing it. I don't see any issue. As long as we have no gallery tomorrow, you'll be fine. It's so funny that you sent me that last night. And then I run into him today at the golf course. And I'm just like, I can't show him. They're actually going to show this on golf so far. It's going to be great, though.

I'm going to love it. You're probably not going to do. Larry, I love you. I'm sorry. We had to do it. The world needs to see it. All the sandbagging stuff. Let's put that to bed. Here's the top three wood that went into a ball washer. It's all legit. It wasn't topped. It was just a low heat. Straight left.

But I tell everyone, I mean, just I've known Larry for a couple years now. And obviously not the level you do, but he's the nicest human in the world. I said, every kid that comes out of college that's going to be, you know, a big time athlete should have to spend a day with Larry Fitzgerald. and see how he treats people, how he interacts. Like, there's no one nicer. It's absolutely unbelievable. There's a cool video I just saw of his highlight reel from college. I don't know if you saw it.

Some of his catches were just unbelievable. But still then, every time made the catch, walked up to the ref, just handed it to him. He's never spiked the ball in his life. He's never done anything to his competitors. He never talked. Yeah. It's classed. He's just classed.

And you mentioned, like, he was one of the best college football receivers of his time. going to go down and going to be first ball at hall of fame or one of the best whiteouts in the NFL he's playing the biggest stages what is his nerve what's a guy like larry fitzgerald at 18 t pebble beach like he's done it all is he nervous like does that get his juices going enough to be nervous i'm sure he's a little nervous definitely that first year he was very nervous but he's been there now a number of times and and uh really coming down the stretch and we were in the hunt a few times he was cool cool as a cucumber man he's he's done it two-time champion i'll do that to you so you've won twice looking back give us the best shot you think you've seen

Larry Fitzgerald hit in competition during the AT&T? Number seven. He almost hold it the first year we won. Really? This little hold-off wedge. I mean, it wasn't that, obviously, a short shot. The 100-yard shot, but it just clipped it. Nice.

Two hops. Power lips on the low side. It stops right there. I can see that big smile. I'm sure he's just gritted here. It's so good. God. What's the worst shot?

Besides the ball washer, like one in competition, what's the worst shot? I mean, when he goes after that driver. it can get both directions deep. I mean, probably the worst one I've seen is the pro-am first tea at Greenbriar. You know that tea? Yeah, downhill. Par four, a little dog leg right. He gets up, and I'm just up.

Me and age you're just talking, try it. Hey, buddy, good to see you. And he's going off with, what was he playing with? The owner. Jim Justice. He's playing with Jim, and I think Jim's son. And we're watching. And he rips at this driver.

And this thing goes left of, like, through the fairway. left of 17 the par five. I mean, it's probably 190 yards left of the fairway. And he killed it. Killed it. And I was just like, dude, how does that athletic ability that head hit that ball 200 yards offline? But the speed is so

impressive, dude. That's why it's so good out there. He can hit irons off of all the teas that he plays from who doesn't have to hit that driver. His caddy is unbelievable. He's a pedal 300 days a year. Mike Zabo knows every break. And he just three and four irons off the T at 6,200 hundred yards. He's dangerous from there.

He's good inside of 150. Yeah. Not only Larry, but we got to bring this guy up because former guests on the program, you're also very good friends with Chicago man, Brian Erlacher. And I got to know, like, this Erlacher, being that you've won twice now with Larry, does he look at you and give you shit? Like, hey, dude, maybe I'd like the hoist of trophy once or twice in my day. He plays it off like he's fine, not playing it.

He wants a cheap day. I guarantee he does. Like, dude, let me get out there one time. You were actually a big topic of conversation when we had Brian Erla, Yeah, you came up multiple times. It was mostly all good, though. He's a good man. You have to say that.

He's massive. Yeah, don't say anything. He cannot say anything bad about him. When you're a good Brian story? Yes, of course. That's exactly why we're here. So, Brian's a big prankster. My coach at the time, one of my good friends, Jake Thurm, was so stoked to meet Brian.

I was staying with Brian on the BMW up in his house. It was right across the street from Conway Farm. So Jake's like, man, can come over at an early. tea time. Brian's like, hey, you can spend the night, no problem. So he's, and Brian, I just see it in the back of this, but he's like, what time's you get in here? I'm like, oh, he's had work and he's had dinner with his kids. He's probably getting here on like 9, 9.30. He's like, comes out of the back. And you know that water, the water balloons? Like, you fill up the deal and there's like 100 of them that pop out. Like it's, it's like the super water balloon deal.

Anyway, you put it on the faucet. You turn it on. All of a sudden, you've got 100 water. A hundred water balloon. Yeah. It gets his big box, 100 water balloons. He's like, let me know when he gets here. You go up on the. You go up on the. roof. He'd never met Jake. Me and Brian and Chappie are sitting on the roof like the night before we're playing the BMW Chab and Jake gets out of his car and we proceed to

pelt him with a hundred water balloon and Jay's standing like what are these children doing? So Jake in the back is mine like I'm going to get him back. I want to get him back so bad. So we were filming this great show, Driver versus Driver. I know if you saw that. It's a big show.

I love that show, dude. Smash. Wilson. You were unbelievable. Thank you. It was a shining moment. So, Brian and I are filming at Cantini, the course I grew up at, and they're bringing him into the show. He was one of the judges. So Jake had gone to Costco and bought like a 50 pack of condoms.

You can say it on this show. It's perfectly fine. Conants. Protection. Of protection. Yes. And Jake proceeds to grab his bag when Brian's like in makeup and takes it in the back and pulls out all his clubs and puts a jimmy on every one of his grips and put him back into the back

so like a few minutes later brian's filming and he's like brian hit your nine-air and he pulls out his club and he's like what the jake wins that's a winner i don't know what i'm more impressed that he thought of that or that you can get a 50 pack of rubbers at costco who's going to Costco like yeah dude bachelor party this week and gotta go to Costco and load up it's gonna be a busy one well i'm glad you brought up canteeny because that's kind of a special place to me as well yeah you brought it up so we might as well get into it you know i mean there's this little usGA event there they used to have called the pub links oh here we go and i happen to win there and rumor has it i might be tied for first or second favorite golfer amongst your parents so mom and dad played there literally

three, four days a week. We never joined a private club, but Cantina was right down the street. It had great senior rates, twilight rates. I grew up there. That was my home. And I'd graduated and turned pro as you were,

oh, oh, seven. I graduated in 01. So I was kind of off and actually probably living out here at that time. And so at the end of the year at Cantini, they would always have the big, like, gala for their favorite guests.

The people played the most rounds of golf. My mom and dad always played the most rounds of golf there. So they got to pick a piece of memorabilia that canteeny had put out and they come home and mom I get home and mom's like look what I got from canteeny and it was a colt no sign canteeny flag what an honor is it is it is it proudly in the guest bathroom in the garage no way I've no idea right now it is like upside down in our pool yeah perfectly placed right next to Kevin's two PJ and tour where is it now is it still around I have no idea yeah that's a good

I'm going to be nice to our guest right now. Just go to the next question. That is a beautiful, beautiful answer. What a place, canteeny is, by the way. I loved it. God, I destroyed everybody that week's Lee's. You're proud. I am proud of you, Colt.

I'm very, very proud of you. Chicago, are you ever, we were talking to Erlacher. Are you ever jealous that Erlacher, you go there and there's about 200 Erlacker with the hair, the billboards with his hair restoration? You've been, you're in the same program. You've got no billboards, dude. No billboards. But he might be getting a little more bread from that deal.

He might be getting a... But it's literally every... If not every billboard, it's every other billboard. Is Brian's dumbhead doing this? Yeah. He even said it's a little ridiculous. It's out of control. If you land at O'Hare and get on 94, it's unbelievable.

It's almost like a prank how many there are there. It's like somebody was like, we're just going to embarrass him and put one on every single corner. They're everywhere. You did it too, though? Who's got the better lettuce right now? You or are alive? I think mine's pretty strong.

I don't think yours was ever really in need that much from what I remember. thin the front was gone and kind of yeah yours is good but his was like a drastic change yeah yeah yeah his was like zero to a hundred if people saw you and then you walk into a restaurant after the surgery they'd be like oh there's kevin's drillman nobody i mean yeah nice hair yeah but yours was like a tune-up his was like a full like his car was total right new just replaced the whole thing for sure yeah well i feel like it wouldn't be fair if we didn't talk about another chicago legend during this because obviously during these times these quarantine times or pretty much every sunday night I think people are glued to their TV watching the last dance.

At least I hope you are. This question is going to be really shitty. So good. Never heard of it. The last dance with Michael Jordan and the Chicago Bulls, obviously I'm guessing you've been watching. Give us your thoughts on that. It's been neat.

I mean, I grew up in Wheaton, Illinois. I basically got into basketball. I was 9, 10 years old. That was Jordan was, I mean, I was born in 78. I mean, Jordan was drafted 85. Started winning in 91. Like, that was me, middle school high school. school. I watched every game with mom and dad. We'd go to like one game a year and like when that

stadium went dark and they just do do do do do like it was it was just memorable. So I've been like texting mom and dad and they've been watching it and the stories are they're just unbelievable. I mean all the Rodman Vegas stuff last one. That's so good. That's unbelievable. What do you think your favorite part is of the last dance so far that you've seen? Like what I love it. I love it. I love it caught you off guard. I mean I remember so vividly the Detroit 88, 89, 90, would Detroit and Isaiah. I knew him and Jordan always. And then to hear him still have that animosity,

he could just say he still hates him. He holds a grudge, believe it or not. I mean, but like Larry thing, you shake people's hands when you're done with him. Exactly. I mean, he, I love that it showed that like when Chicago lost and he went up, shake in his interview afterwards,

he's like, it was, they're what we want to be. We want to be there. We want to be there. They're better than us. They want. And then afterwards when that whole thing happened, and then Isaiah tried to cover up and say the Celtics did that.

And I'm like, come on, man. And I love how MJ, they each said, you know, no one went on vacation. They all went straight to the gym. Yeah, I would have had a problem with that. That's when he started a little vacation. I got beat to shit, by the way, for five games. So I'm going to go ahead and take a little breather. But that's when he started to get, I forgot that's why he, like, bulked up.

Because he used to be so skinny. You know, he said, like, I only eat enough to fly. I'm like a bird. I only eat enough to fly. Then he came back the next year and had all that map. And it was game over. Yeah. Other than MJ, favorite Chicago Bowl.

I mean, Pippin. Okay, other than Pippin, damn it, I'm hoping you'd say somebody. Well, as like a short white guy who could shoot randomly well, Paxson. There you go. Paxon and Steve Kirk. John Paxon was incredible. By the way, Paxon looks like he's in pretty good shape still.

He might be able to do a little, what's the hair product company called? Restore. Restore. He's in the... He's a Chicago legend. He's a candidate. And, by the way, Bill Cartwright looks like he's about to get into... I'm sorry, Horace Grant looks like he's about to get into MMA.

Homeboy is huge. How about that? Dude, he ain't going on too many vacations. He's in that gym all the time. A dude could play. We talk about it all the time on our serious XM show, because we watch it every Sunday and then we record. It is amazing to us that Scotty Pippen,

not only was he the 122nd highest-paid player in the NBA, he was the sixth on that team. I mean, how ridiculous is that? He tried to take that long-term security. And it couldn't have had the worst time. That'd be like Phil Nicholson being the 100-paid best-played, endorsement wise on the BGA tour. Yeah.

Pretty good. He just wanted, he had a little family situation. I think you want to make sure that was wrapped up. I would be looking at my agent like, you're fired, by the way, when this is all done.

We should get into a little bit of golf, though. Do you want to talk a little bit of golf? Let's rewind back before you became PGA Tour Sensation two-time winner, back when you were playing the Jickeys. You had a nice little run on the Jix, six or seven years, I believe, on the mini tours.

He loves talking about the shows. We called Jickey Jax, mini tours. And there was a time, pretty much, And you talked about it a little bit, but you essentially, like, lived out of your car, more or less, right? Like driving from one to one. Didn't have a, just like, I sleep in my car, I wake up, I change, and I go play. Yeah. I mean, and you know the gig.

You'd have two, three, four guys split in the motel six going in there negotiating. They'd be like $39. Like, come on, you can get $33. Yeah, exactly. I mean, there's negotiations every night with the motel. Oh, no, I don't know about it. High score sleeps on the floor, dude. It's all the thing.

Yeah, for sure. Exactly. So, but it's still like the best memory. he's best times the relationships we had are still some of my best friends living in the dakotas tour eating uh you know doing barbecues in people's backyards drinking beer with them after rounds and stuff i guess it was awesome awesome times you did it for like six or seven which is a pretty good run like now you see kids coming out of college turning pro early and like winning you know they're got the you got your wolf so you got your moroccas and things like that but like you do you're at for six

or seven years was there ever a point in time where your parents are like hey kevin you got a degree from Duke. You know, half your friends are probably running corporations right now. Maybe it's time to put that thing to use. Definitely not mom or dad. They were so supportive. That's cool. My dad, gosh.

So dad was drafted to play Major League Baseball, 1969. Three weeks later, he gets drafted into Vietnam. Goes and serves the military, spends a year in Vietnam, three years in the military. So when I was in the driveway, he, my dad gave me $10,000 to get started. And they're like, this is all we can give. And I was just so appreciative and thankful. but dad kind of grabbed me and looked and he said every night go look yourself in the mirror and say you did your best today to get better and at the end of this whole journey you'll be okay you'll be okay with how it turns out if you gave it you're all every day and i never forgot that to this day they're just my biggest i guess i didn't know that whole story about it yeah they're incredible but there was a time about two years in i was out here on the gateway tour missing all the cuts getting my butt kicked by like contact and you know all the local I love a bride contact shot out, by the way.

Dude, shot 65 every round. Yeah, it can't miss Arizona kids. Yeah. And I was just struggling, and the Duke assistant coaching job came available. So I was like, man, this could be pretty cool. It would be 24 and 25. I was like, let's give it a shot. I did the resume, did the whole interview,

and it came down to me and one other gentleman. He got the job. I didn't. It was the same week as the Western Open was held at Cog Hill. back, back, and this is the Tiger Days of 03, 2004. And, man, it was awesome. I made about an 18-footer for Bertie on the last to shoot 67 and got in my first PGA tour event.

Played him with Mike Weir in a practice round. He had just won the master. I was like, dude, this guy is legit. Like, he's really good. But I was driving it a little further than him. I was, you know, hitting it. Irons felt tight. Like, I think I could improve my short game and putting to his level, a fair amount.

But I felt like I could hang. I think that was, like, a big moment for me. That's interesting. And it kind of turned things around. I said, all right, it's time to kind of take this seriously and see how good I can get. And you mentioned that Duke job. I'm going to ask this because I read this.

And I had no idea about this. I wanted to confirm or deny. I heard it at the time you applied for Duke. You also applied for the UNC, the North Carolina assistant golf coach job as well. Is that true? I read that. Not true?

Not true. You got to watch what people are writing about you, bro. And you got to write a movie. I was about to say, but I feel like you'd be disowned by the community. I will say I did have some interesting going to you. and Z. Okay, maybe they went to the, went to, this is before anything we're,

obviously where to happen at Duke. I'll tell the story. As you're walking, as you're working out. Truth comes out. I will say it helped my interest, the admissions office. They literally had two all female dorms

on either side of the admissions office. And me, mom and dad are walking up. It was like the first nice day of spring. We're visiting all the North Carolina schools. All the girls are out Sunday. And I'm walking and I look at dad and my dad looks at me.

I was like, I might have an interest to check out. this university but anyway the coach at the time he told me to my face I wasn't good enough to play for him and it was one of those like really inspiring moments for me where I was like all right

I'm gonna show him and my first college term I won was UNC's tournament and he handed he handed me the trophy oh that's nice and it was like that's right yeah you gave a little FU too I like that keep it keep it inside but it's one of those things you don't forget either but did he ever say anything

no that's funny yeah he knows But can you imagine if you would have gotten that Duke assistant coaching job, you might not have gone to her. You might not ever won the Kodak challenge. Right. You might not be a Kodak. I would have taken that job for sure. You would have.

Yeah. I feel fortunate. I feel blessed. It's been such a fun run and a fun journey. But you look back at just little moments. Even moving out here when you meet your wife, when you have kids, like all these little things have such huge implications on where your life ends up going. but that was definitely one of them.

By the way, one of my early years on the PGA tour, I was paired with the great Kevin Strillman in my hometown tournament, Dallas, Byron Nelson. Winds blown 100. We get to 17. This part of three over water. Back right pin, tough pin. What does Kevin do?

Steps up. Hoop one. Still have not gotten a free cocktail from this, by the way. So after the show, you're fine. We got a couple out here. Here's what I remember from that day. Oh, this ought to be good. It was howling.

It was blowing. It was blowing 25, 30 off the left. And the pin is tucked right. I was trying to not hit it in the water. I pretty much aimed at the cart path and this wind gust hits it. And I'm like, oh, crap, it's really cutting. And it just hits and goes in. And I look, I'm just like, and I look and I see like a raging bowl of Colt Nose just like coming at me.

You know, like give a guy just coming out. Like I was more tired than he was. Oh, dude, it was. I'll never forget his face. Like that the place. The place goes, I mean, they call like the mini 16 at here. And it was Friday afternoon. It was packed with people.

Like it was so. loud. It was so much fun. And you remember, there was like an escalade right behind us. Yeah. And I'm ready to go do like the rich beam, go jump on the hood and start like, there's a sign on it that says first hole in one for professional Saturday or Sunday only. Oh, as I'm like mid air and I go in like, it couldn't be a harder shot. No. That's, I literally would have taken anywhere on that green. It was it was 85% lights out on the T-boxes until it's live. Until it's like you make an ace, you get this. They can't be like, hey, if you make an ace on this day, get it. They should have to wait. That's the biggest tease of all time. And then what?

And I don't know if Col remembers this. Yeah. The next hole, that got me inside the cut line. I rope hook driver in the water make double boge and miss the cup. I didn't want to bring that out Kevin. I think I went one six and missed the cup by this Colt giving you bear hug on 18 green after that. I was out of breath. Sorry, dude. He made dub let me inside the cut line. It was great. Everything was awesome. Hey dude, chin up. Chin up. But I know you're a big student of the kick game Kevin um who do you think obviously we all grew up idolizing tiger woods but other than tiger like who do you think your game most like of the great golfers who do you like kind of

who inspires resemble yeah who do you who does your game resemble i i've always been a good driver of the ball drive it straight and and i think i'm i'm a good mental like kind of know when to attack when to take it's when to play smart when to how to get around a golf course well i think i think that's probably my best asset. Well, I disagree. You just said you snapped hooked it in the water on 18 at Byron Nelson. That was stupid. That was stupid. You shouldn't have done that. You should have hit it up the right. You should have just hit it down the barrel. The wind was howling off the left. It should have been in play. But anyways, keep going. Anyway, I grew up, you know, Tiger is three years older than me. He was never like a golfer. I really, like, idolizer looked up to. I mean, I was kind of

the Freddie couples. Start of Greg Norman is when I got into. I love watching Greg Norman hit driver as hard as he could. He just busted it down every fairway. And then, gosh, Duval when you first got started, his wedge play, putting. Everything. Stupid. So, I'm good. So, so good. But I don't know. I just try and do my own thing. I know the confines of my game, I'd say pretty well. I don't try and get outside it too much.

You mentioned the Western Open and Mike Weir and playing with him and that kind of showed you like, hey, maybe I'm good enough to do this, you know, for real. When you did get your tour card, was there anyone that, like, did you have a mentor or anyone who took you under your wing or a guy you looked up to to be like, hey, this is the guy I'm going to talk to to to ask questions and kind of learn how to be a pro. Yeah. I was forward to Joe Ogilvy was five years ahead of me in a Duke grad. And I say to this day, he's kind of like my big brother out there.

He would tell me which restaurant's seat at, which hotels to stay away from, which is like the best way which airports to fly into. Just like stuff like that that your agent should do. But it's nice to have someone who's been there and done it to kind of bounce ideas off of. And Joe is always great to me. Tom Lehman. I met out here in Phoenix.

he's always been incredible. And I remember sitting, Bo Van Pelt, I remember sitting out with Bo. My rookie year, before I got started, I was so nervous. We were actually out here at TPC, and we're just hitting balls. I go, Bo, I'm a rookie this year.

My name's Kevin. You got any advice for me out there? He's like, dude, the pins left hit at 15 feet right. If the pins right hit at 15 feet left, he's like, golf, golf, don't get too nervous, don't make too big a deal about it. You're going to have great weeks. You're going to have off weeks.

You're going to have great runs. have bad runs just do your best and like keep keep going pretty simple i was like kind of is what's so hard was that was joe oglevy he obviously wasn't a sigma five he's he he was a single new uh rival rival rival frown only golf are on the pjadour from the sigma five uh sigma five uh sigma five or delta sick he said sigma i don't know dude it's whatever i use that i don't speak greek dude it was great by the way i played with joe oglevy my second ever event as a pro las vegas i'm paired with him and Jason Gore on Saturday.

And at one point, I'm pretty sure Jason Gore threw his sandwich into the water on number 12. And on the same hole, Joe Ogleby's ball landed on the green and trickled into the water. And he did a running karate kick at his golf bag. And I'm sitting there. I was like, this is incredible. This is how these guys act. I love this. I mean, it was the fall series.

So, like, everybody was the end of the year, everybody was probably over it. They're like, hate golf. I don't want to be out here. I'm just trying to keep my card. but Joel will be doing this running, flying karate kick at his golf bag is the image I think of every time I hear that name. That's beautiful. Sweep the leg. But he is also one of the names that always comes up.

If there was a player that could be commissioner on PJ Torre, he's one of them. And honestly think the same thing when I think of you a little bit. So I want you to put your commissioner hat. Yeah, because you're smart Duke grad, smart guy. And you're involved. You're a member of the PAC, which is the player advisory, council committee, whatever you want to say. You're involved in all the decisions. Put your commissioner hat on.

Get out of here. Stop looking at the computer. That's how he got through Duke right there. You cheated. Yeah. Copy it. Put your commissioner's hat on for a second. First thing you change on the PGA tour, Kevin Ström and his commissioner. I would own the Ryder Cup.

Why? An attempt to try and own the majors. Why? Explain. Because they are, it's our players that make the product. Okay. And the business has gotten to a point that is quite different than it was. 15, 20, 30 years ago.

And I feel like the entity that owns the media rights and the rights of the players should have the majority percentage of... So basically the Ryder Cup is more than just an exhibition and the players should be taken care of in this situation. I feel so. The players, I think, get $150,000 of charities of their choice, which is awesome. Yeah, that's a drop in the bucket compared to what they make off the Ryder Cup. It's a big revenue generator for the PG.

of America. Do you think the players feel the same? Like, guys that make the Ryder Cup team, do they, I mean, it's nice, like you said, they give $150K to the charity of their choice, but are they kind of like, man, we are making a ton of money generating a ton of revenue out here and we ain't seeing a lick of it. I mean, I got to think in other sports that wouldn't fly, more or less, maybe minus the Olympics, right? Like the dream team or something like that.

Like other sports, I feel like football players aren't going out there like for fun. You know what I mean? Right. I feel like golf's one of the only sports they could do that. Yeah. I mean, it's such a balancing point of the historical. relevance, the incredible rivalries. Like, it's almost bigger than the individual.

So in that regard, I get it. But if you look at the history of where the Rider Cup, how that was kind of given to the PGA, when the PGA tour separated from the PGA, it was kind of a talking point that was negotiated as far as this one here and this we took here and this was here. And at the time, the value of the Rider Cup is different than it is today. Oh, it's ridiculous now. Sleese and I talk about this all the time. Would you rather have a Rider Cup this year with no fans?

or push it back a year. I think the fans are an integral part of that event. Huge. For sure. I also feel, you know, you push it back and we have a Presence Cup next year, which is a PGA tour revenue generating event for, sorry, revenue generating event for the PGA tour. So that kind of changes, you know, pushes all that back another year too.

So I don't know. I hope everything goes well. Season starts as planned. We can start getting fans in, you know, a month and a half, two months. and it's an afterthought, but it is something that needs to be discussed if everything doesn't go as smooth as we think. So you are a man of the PAC committee. Does golf happen at Colonial? I think so.

I mean, I got to trust the people who are, I mean, the tour's doing a ton of work right now to figure this out. They're talking with much smarter people and I and us and they are very optimistic if things, nothing crazy happens. and they've got plans if things do. But I think for the most part, we'll be able to go in June, week of June 11th. You're very much involved in this discussion. And I was talking with Joe Skobber and Caddy for Ricky Fowler today at the golf course. And we were discussing, you know, how they're going to do this whole testing thing,

whether it be every day or maybe just once a week, what it is. But he said the rumor he heard, and you could obviously confirm this, if you or your caddy test positive, you're most likely out of the turn. tournament. Like how does that work? Like, why would, why would a player have to be out if their caddy? Why would not the whole group they played with Thursday, Friday, have to be out? I mean, there's so many questions that have to be answered. And you can help us with this. Honestly, those are logistical questions that we're starting to address and starting to attack. And I wouldn't say there's any definitive answers as of now, but those are serious questions

and serious issues that could come up if it were to get out. And there's a chance, you know, they're really trying to keep the bubble small, maybe keep coaches back a little bit. keep trainers back, you know, club technicians and just kind of keep everyone who needs to be there there. And even families and daycare isn't going to be happening for at least a few months. So, I mean, I've said it. I mean, you, I'm sure you've done it. I've done it. Everyone's, you've played sick on the PGA tour. I mean, you basically tell your group at the start of the round, hey guys, I'm not feeling that well. Just give you a little elbow from whatever, not doing it. it would be hard for me if say Kevin Strelman's leading colonial going into Sunday and you wake up and they test you

hey Kevin you feel fine but you test a positive for chronic you're you're out like that's a tough deal for me you're like hey guys I feel fine I mean what do right I don't know good answer that's the right answer that's what that's quotable right that that's quotable right here we're gonna blast that all over so Kevin Strelman I don't know end quote right there he cries so good let me ask you since we're talking about colonial and coming back

and no fans starting off and things like that you've won twice on the PJ tour how much did the fans mean to you like how different would it have been for you if you were trying to get your first win in Tampa and there's no way out there would things have played out different

you know in a way you're so in the zone and you're like so into your shots at that moment that I wouldn't say it's a it's a massive massive difference but at the same time I personally enjoy that emotion like the people screaming, the great shots you hit, get rewarded with the applause. You know how close you hit it because everyone's going crazy.

Like that's a fun part of our job, to be honest. It's one of the most fun parts of the job. Yeah, that's the juices. Yeah. But more importantly, like our fans are so desperate for golf right now. We want to get out there and play golf. We want to put on a show. We want to make some more money again.

Like it's just everything is stopped. So it's like we want to get back to work. Our fans want to watch it. I think we can put on a great product. It's going to be a little bit different. for a few months, but I think we'll look back at it and hopefully laugh one day and just say that we had to do it, but the product and the viewership was important. And we did it in a safe manner and everything went well. We really hope that that can be the end game here. And assuming

the PJ Tour does it right and things go smoothly. Politically correct. That was a very well-smanship. You had your hat on for that one. But assuming it all does go well and think, you know, guys stay healthy and things like that, for the first time ever, really, PJ Tour is the only show in town. It's only live sport. It's only live competition, which people are dying for right now. It could be an opportunity to, like, highlight the PJ tour. More eyeballs, I would think, will be on the PJA tour when you guys started Colonial than ever before, like, at Colonial. You know what I mean? Minutes a major or something. And the quality of the field potentially that could be there. I mean, everyone around the top 200 players in the world are going to be

really doing all they can to get into that field. So I think the caliber of play, the caliber of the product. I know that our partners will put on will be, will be terrific. and yeah the fields are going to be nobody's taking weeks off after being sitting in quarantine you know playing left-handed and you know doing whatever people are doing right now all right was it time for emergency nine

I think it feels like that time already I don't you want to go more time flies but we do have this I know you're busy you got a lot it's true we do this with every guest little segment called emergency nine nine fun questions and I'm going to let sleazy start it off no you start it off you fired off the first one I was

I'm the oh yeah you're right I'm the the odds. Yes. We always, we rehearse this. He's a little odd. We rehearse this. All right. This question we ask everybody.

You may have seen it. You may have not. But if there is a movie being made about the life of Kevin Streelman, who do you pick to play you? I'd say, like Richard Gear. Oh, wow. Back in the like. That's a confident answer, dude.

My mom always told me how handsome. You're going to have a lot of women lining up to watch the life of Kevin Stewart. Early 90s, yeah, early 90s, yeah, that's a smooth answer. Cole, you got an, who would you? I got one. I got an idea for you. pretty good answer actually that's a little i mean no offense you do like to gary win now dinsel washington yeah gary picked dixon but pretty close dude by the way john daly picked matt daly

i was like and then he went and said chris farley too but i was like i don't really see the matt damon and chris far and uh john daly but you guys have like a diet coke and cigarette question with john daly yeah he drank once 28 coke diet cokes in a day 28 i got a son yeah you got times? Oh yeah, we got the, my rookie year in Mexico, my Icova, this was 08, and we used to play in the spring. It was hot, it was hot, hot, humid hot. One of those, like you drink a bottle water every hole pretty much, if not every two holes. Like, it's that, you're just dripping sweat. So I get paired with John. I was pretty excited. Like, I was a rookie on tour. He's a big name. I was like, yeah. And he was great. I mean, just class act, just down to earth, fun, relaxed.

I enjoy, I really enjoyed playing with him. My caddy and I had, a wager though it was like over under on number of heaters and over under on how many diet coax you have and we put the we put it at 18 cigarettes and i think it was 10 diet coax and he went over on both of the wow wow smoke a hole he had a smoke a hole two on the par fives and he literally had like 12 or 13 diet coax without one single water like it was one of the most athletic things i've ever seen and he let he shoot did he play and yeah he played good he's that that's that's that's See, that's next level talent. It is.

If you watch the 30 for 30 on him on ESPN, they asked if he picked up, like, they're filming him at the grocery store. And like, did you get any water? He's like, no, there's plenty of ice in my diet Coke. That's right. I get my wife. Like, he said 28. I was like, oh, my God.

That's one an hour if you don't go to, that's more than one an hour if you don't even go to sleep. Good matter. Hey, wow. T. Hold on. Hold on. Dude guy, back check that, but it feels like that math was right.

That's a good story. That's a good over under, too. I would think a dart a hole would be. very like I would be leaning towards the under part three you got to get through a dartner yeah 150 yard part three yeah quick quick I'll tell you my favorite that's real is is Tim lumpy herron oh he'll he'll have the claw grip and he's got the cigarette in between his fingers on his right hand as he's funny it absolutely I laugh every time I see it have you heard the story about him in college where he there's no smoking in college right during college tournament

NCAA rules or whatever so it was at new mexico's tournament at the tucker course and he would hit his t-shot he had the honors hit his t-shot walked over like 20 yards so grab his bag walked 20 yards over to the left sparked up a heater lit it up and walked it was out of bounds and he walked all the way down the fairway out of bounds i'm technically not on the golf course so it doesn't count and he cruise back in and go to his shot the fairway like dude i'm i'm not on property this doesn't this is not a rule of the pga tour needs more john daily and tim hair yeah i mean that's a really good daily story i like that all right number two have you ever gone shirtless and painted your body blue for a Duke basketball game. I've not. I've

no. That's very disappointing, Kevin. But as a future PG tour commissioner, probably not a good idea. Right. Yeah, you got to keep your, you got to keep your rap sheet clean. Right. At this point, I was hoping you did it. I thought you'd be a little more of like a camera crazy guy, like the spooky hands and stuff. Yeah, I mean, it's you're standing up the whole game. You're jumping,

it's dripping sweat, it's electric, but I never put body paint on and you were just lying to the front of the line because you grease the line guy. So that could come back to bite you when you're being commissioner. Bribery is a serious charge, Kevin. So we'll have to We'll have to find a way to avert that. But all right, staying on the basketball theme, least favorite UNC basketball player of all time.

Oh, gosh. Yeah. Tough questions here on golf so far. I'm drawn. I can picture his fate. I got one. The big, big white guy. Tyler Hansborough.

There you go. He was there when I was in. That's the one. Everybody hated him for no reason. He just tried hard and played good. Everyone hated him. Blind a little. Yeah.

There it is. That's good. All right. Number four, worst shot you've ever hit on the PJ Tour, off the top of your head. Oh, there's been some good ones. Did you just have Pat Perez on this? Yeah. Can I tell the worst shot I've seen?

This is why you're here, dude. I get paired with Pat Perez and Charlie Hoffman. Sorry. Wow. Wow. Wow, dude. At Tampa Bay. This may have been the year I want.

I think this may have been 13, the year I won. the tournament. And the first two days I get pair with these two and you're just laughing the entire time. And they're just total knuckleheads having a blast. We get to 13, the par three. And it's a little kidney shape green. There's water all down the right. And it's butts to the 12th hole. So we get up and Pat, the pins of kind of easy front left, middle left pin the first day. And so Pat and I hit middle to green. Charlie gets up and we're just kind of looking at our bag with it. And we hear the sound and it just is, it's the hosell. Like it's a straight, low. clank or the hooters tent right there like people go diving out of the way with their wings and

stuff and it goes straight in the hazard and me and pat make eye contact we're like oh my god oh my god do you see that shot charlie's just a few a minute we're just okay so we go up to the green and he knocks it on and makes his i think he makes five so fast forward the next morning we're on the range and um pat's just screaming charlie did you get that text did you get did you get the text and Charlie just looks up and just flips the bird right and I go do right what's what happened that morning he had got on his phone he went on YouTube and got a golf digest 101 how to stop shanking the ball

and texted to Charlie and so we get to 13 and once again me and Pat hit it up somewhere on the green and we're just like watching we're just like watching and Charlie proceeds like hit this toe skinny shot over in the back bunker and we just all lost it It just was he said he was so nervous. He was so nervous in that shot.

But, yeah. What a pairing. By the way, they should give you a six-year exemption for winning if you played with those two the first one. That's a good. That's a valid point. That's a tough pairing right there. I love it. You get through Thursday Friday with those two and win the tournament.

Just making the cut. We'll let that slide as worst out you've seen. Yeah, that was a very good story that will we will. I love that story. And of all people to happen to, the Siegel, Charlie Hoffman, nothing better. Yeah, we'll put that one in the old temple for, I'll remember it. All right, next question. If you were not a professional golfer, what would Kevin Strzman do for a living?

You know, I got into that, I was interested in that golf coaching. I think that would have been really cool. I enjoy working with young players. I think some with golf. I mean, I love it. I still, I love teaching a little bit. I love helping friends out. I love playing.

I think it would be something with golf either a college golf coach or, you know, you're teaching pro somewhere. Life coach to Larry Fitzgerald, which you are already. It'd be good. This next one's tough. I'm going to be honest. I'm kind of nervous to hear what you're going to say. You got to bet your life on a match.

You got to pick Larry Fitzgerald or Brian Erlacher to save your life. They're playing head-to-head. Who's going to win? First of all, who are you going to take to win? Sorry. I'll tell you what, both those guys, if they've got like an eight-footer to make a few bucks or to save a few bucks, they both probably make it. This is about your life, not a few bucks.

They are both ballers. You're going to hurt some feelings. I know. I got a know. I got a know. This is going to test his political skills for that. I would say, I would say I'll go with Brian. Larry, I'm sorry, Larry.

Larry is looking for a new partner. We just drove a wedge in between the dynasty right here, dude. You know, I play with Brian the other day, and I just, I kind of felt bad. It's the only of those days, you just take so much money off somebody. I kind of felt bad, so. So you're going to throw them a little on? Yeah, yeah. Wow, so Kevin Stroman picks Brian Erler, like her to say,

That will definitely be the headline for this show right there. And we're going to make sure Larry sees that. I'm going to text him right after this, actually. All right. Next question. Back to basketball. All time Duke starting five. You're the coach.

Go. Christian Leitner. Check. Bobby Early. Check. Okay. Since the theme. He's only there a year, but gosh, Corey McGettie was good.

But I got to go, Shane. Baddy, age. He's my boy. Yeah, that's your dog. Got to go Shane. Play a little D out there. Grant Hill. Um, is Jason Williams getting thrown on the bench?

No. Is Reddick not going to make this squad dude? I don't think Redick. I'm sorry, dude. I mean, he's a great dude. That hurts. I go Jay Will. Jay Will in college prime was unstoppable.

Yeah. You're not going to, I thought Zion might get thrown in the mix. He's only one and done them. You got so many guys, it's hard to change. Yeah, dude. You could have a three deep on that. You have 15. I tell you, I truly, I get that they have to do it.

Like, they're that talented. They're able to go to the NBA. It's amount of money. can't pass up but it's a shame of what college basketball used to be yeah to what it is now and now with like the g league or whatever kids are just skipping college like we won't like two years from now Zion wouldn't have even probably gone to do he'll go to g league make half a million and then go straight to the league that top recruit yeah two of them already have guaranteed half million to go play the top two kids UCLA kid another kid already committed going to play college for

free and people are going to make a lot of money off me i'm going to go play i'm not sure they're going anywhere in college for free except at duke where they're at duke where they're They're the one program that doesn't cheat. They would never do that. You guys are just the gold standard. Yeah. Okay. All right.

Did you kind of enjoy how much UNC was struggling this year? Absolutely. I knew you would. They were terrible. This shirt is close to the UNC flu, though. I'm surprised to even have a shade that light in your wardrobe. I wore it for things that aren't as important. Like podcast.

Yeah. All right. Number eight. Who would make a better PGA Tour Commissioner? Pat Perez or John Daley. Yeah, that's good. I like that. Wow.

I go JD. Oh, love it. Eat shit, Pat. Now take it, Pat. Eat shit. Pat, you can't run anything. Pat will never be in charge of anything, dude. Nothing.

He can't even run his own house. He's not going to run the entire P.J. The only thing he's running is his shoe closet. That is it. That's where the line is drawn. She closet is clean now. J.D. for commissioner.

That's a tour I want to be a part of. I might come out and start trying again to get back and work my way on the JD tour. That would be incredible. All right, here we go. Last question. Favorite celebrity you've ever met at Pebble Beach, not named Larry Fitzgerald.

Mark Wahlberg. Oh, really? Mark and Mark. That was a cool story. I mean, most down to earth, cool dude ever. He's got, of course, his full entourage with him. We tee off at number one at Monterey Peninsula. We go down the hill.

All of a sudden, a few more of his entourage or walk it in the fairway. We get to the third hole, and there's like 15 of his entourage just like hanging out, got his arm around us. Like Johnny, the real Johnny Drabba's got his. Turtles. Yeah, everybody's there. And everyone's laughing. And I remember, Rolls official comes up and say, Strills, what is it going on?

Like, none of these people could be in the fairway. But it's so much fun. We started talking. They can all be. Yeah, you can do whatever he wants. You can do it every one. Well, it was probably one of the cooler evenings. He goes, dude, what are you doing for dinner tonight?

And Courtney wasn't in town. I was by myself. I said, I got nothing. He's like, we'll come to. Pebble, that restaurant that overlooks 18. He's like, I got a room, which means pretty much had the whole place rent it out. We show up, me and AJ showed up, and there was a seat next to Mark. He's like, dude, come on.

And we were talking about wine earlier. Lady brings over a bottle of Screaming Eagle. And I sat there and drank a bottle Screaming Eagle with Mark Wahlberg. And I was like, this is friggin pretty nice. That's when it hits home. I've made it. Well, I'm sure. I was like, you're not negotiating.

I'm happy to hear a hotel six room right. It's a long way from that Honda you were driving all over the U.S. Yeah, Nissan Ultima. Yeah, Nissan Ultima. Shout out Nissan. I'm happy to hear that Walberg's cool, like, cool dude. Because everyone, like, he seems like the coolest dude ever in all the roles he plays, but, like, in real life, what's he like?

I'm glad to hear he's like. Down Earth. A dude that'll just hang. Yep. He gets it. Dude, same thing. So I was, we're at Sony Open this year, and I was with Justin Thomas, and he's like, hey, you want to go to dinner?

We're going to meet Walberg and his people. And I'm like, no, I'm busy. Not, dude. I got real. I'm going to go to Perez and H. Sorry, no worry about it. So I go, we show up, we go to Nobu there and Honolulu and we get there first and we're like, we're here to meet Mark Wahlberg. We're the first ones there and they're like, go back this screen and you go back in this back room and all this. The same thing, he brought like six guys and it was the cool.

The first time I've ever like not talked for a whole dinner. I just sat there and just listened. Like he was the coolest dude. Yeah. He had the room and he's just a guy. I mean, I just rewatched the whole series of entourage for the third time. I mean, can't get you enough. In 13 hours. Yeah. That's great. That's cool.

That's a good one. I like hearing that he's a good dude. Yeah, great guy. Speaking of good dudes, you're a good dude. And thank you for taking the time. We got some good stories out of this, dude. We got some dirt on Erlacker, Larry, everybody. Can't wait to see the video of Larry in that drive at Spieglasses, which that should put

to bed any sandbagging rumors. I would think it should. Good. As I should be. Erlacker's going to save your life against Larry Fitzgerald. That's true. make this having one day. We'll see. That could hurt. And by the way, Brian's catting for me in the Scottsdale Open next week.

Well, I was about to go ahead. I was about to bring that up. I was about to say, by the way, I will see you next week at the Scottsdale Open at Talking Storess. Oh, dude. My first jickey Jack. We're going to have a lot to talk. He doesn't even know what the jigs are like. He'll freak us. He'll freak out. When you play with a guy that's shooting 86 and still doing a three-minute pre-shot routine, you're not going to know what to do, dude. You don't know what it's like out there in the streets. Well, hopefully they make us part of the person. primetime pairing for TV and everything.

I'll be out there. I need a live interview from you. I'm a 100% live interview from you. I'm going to need the pulse of the players. We'll be there. Kevin Strillman, man, you were awesome. We really appreciate it. Thank you.

Anytime. Anytime. Thank you. Got it. And that was two-time PGA tour winner. Kevin Strillman joining us on the program. So, Lee, give me what you thought about Kevin's interview. Dude, it was great.

Had some great stories. You and I've gotten to know them pretty well over the years. One story we didn't get into that not a ton of people know when he was still chasing the dream, right, he was out there on the mini tours, which he did for six, seven years. He was actually caddying at Whisper Rock. He was a caddy out there. Fast forward later that year, got through Kew School, got his tour card. A year later, he was asked to join the club by the owner, Greg Trias, and that same year he won the club championship. So he went from caddying at the club to member club champion in one year. And I know that, like, we didn't get into that story,

but pretty cool story for a guy that, you know, spent as long as he did chasing it to have that happen. Yeah, he's such a good player. I mean, kept his card 12 straight years and just such a good dude. awesome interview has great stories. His friendship with Larry Fitzgerald's awesome. I cannot wait to hear how Larry is going to react when Kevin picked Erlacker to save his life over Larry. I think we may have inadvertently created a little beef there. We may have just driven a wedge in between a budding dynasty right there.

So it'll be very interesting to see how that plays out. I will definitely be there for that match. We'd love to watch it. That's pay per view. I think Brian's a little lower handicap, but I think under the circumstances it could be a hell of a match. Yeah, and give Larry like a couple more weeks of plan. He's playing 22 hours a day right now.

It could be pretty competitive. Well, that'll do it for this week's golf subpar. But next week, everyone get ready. Gis, who we bring it in the building. Grab your popcorn. We're coming off the heels of John Daly, Kevin Strelman. We're going for another one of the most outspoken athletes in the world. Sir Charles Barkley will be in the building on property coming up next week.

Dude, this one's got potential to be all time. I cannot wait. It's going to be incredible. Everybody, stay tuned because it could get very. very interesting with the one and only Charles Barkley. Until then, thanks for listening.