Subpar - Ludvig Aberg talks Europe’s Ryder Cup celebrations, winning 9&7 over Brooks and Scottie

Episode Date: October 10, 2023

On this week's episode of GOLF's Subpar, 2-time Ben Hogan Award winner Ludvig Aberg joins former PGA Tour pro Colt Knost and jicky jack legend Drew Stoltz for an exclusive interview. A member of the winning European team at the 2023 Ryder Cup, he talks teaming with Viktor Hovland for a historic foursomes victory over Brooks Koepka and Scottie Scheffler, who was the MVP of their celebrations in Rome and how he plans to make the most of his tour exemption for the 2024 season. ----- Subscribe to our new YouTube Now: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCt5ESUx6omMUsMoEKvMTzlA Follow Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/golf_subpar/?hl=en Follow Twitter: https://twitter.com/golf_subpar?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor ----- We are excited to announce our newest sponsor Tito's Handmade Vodka and their Tito’s Golf Club "Sub-Par Sponsorship" Now Tito's Golf Club members can nominate the Sub-Par Golfer in their lives to be sponsored by Tito’s to get cool gear and fresh fits. Yes, even if that golfer is you. Will it make your friend good at golfing? No! Will they look like they’re good at golfing? And maybe by sheer osmosis start to be kind of okay at it? Sure! At the very least you know they have good taste in vodka. Make bad golfing look good while bad golfers get better. Join and nominate at titosgolfclub.com ----- Thanks to Ralph Lauren, the Official Outfitter of the United States Ryder Cup team and of GOLF's Subpar.  The RLX Golf collection is available in select Ralph Lauren stores, exclusive private clubs, and resorts, and online at RalphLauren.com. https://www.ralphlauren.com/brands-golf?&utm_source=OtherPartners&utm_medium=GolfSubparPodcastRLSponsorship_GolfSubpar_PodcastPlacement_2023_GolfSubparPodcastRLSponsorship

Hello world. Welcome back to golf subpar with Colt Nost and Drew Stoltz. It's football season, but there is some golf going on. The Sanderson Farms, one of our past guests, Luke List, picks up his second PGA tour win in a dramatic five-man playoff, made a 43-foot bomb to get the job done and pick up his second PGA tour victory. Played incredible all week, but I think this is going to be one. Most of you are going to remember is the one Ben Griffin let get away. Yeah, without question. He had this thing. He was fighting at that final round, but he was hanging around doing enough to win that golf tournament comes down to the stretch makes a few bogeys i think there's a lot of guys that signed their card and thought all right good week just not good enough probably

got ready to get out of there but hung around and then all of a sudden bam found themselves in a playoff and uh i mean just going back to that putt on the 70 second that he hit that thing looked good the entire way i cannot believe that hung up there on the right side but props to luke list i mean they're case in point luke list finished gave his hat to a little fan to a fan a young kid I was like, thanks for coming out. And then all of a sudden, he's like, hey, you're in a playoff. He's like, oh, I need that hat back. But shout out to Luke, being the guy that he is, found the young man after the

round or after the playoff concluded, gave him his hat back. But shout out to Luke. He gets all the bells and whistles that come with winning. A little home game for him come April, his third masters. And yeah, good to see. I think he was 119th in the FedEx Cup going in this week. Now up to 61, obviously, safe for a number of years. And in a good spot for that first 10.

Yeah, huge win for him, but going back to Ben Griffin, you know, the big miss with the iron shot on the 72nd hole, missing it left there, wasn't able to get it up and down. You know, gave guys a huge, gave four other guys a massive opportunity to go out and get a win. You mentioned the hat. A lot of talk about hats lately. A lot of hat talks. A lot of hot. A lot of hat talk. Thanks for all the love on Twitter. It's really, really fun.

Apparently you were offended by some things we said, but whatever. I stand by all of it. I do too. But congratulations to Luke on his second win, huge fan. Guys got so much talent. little surprise he's only won twice honestly on the PJ tour a guy known for his incredible ball striking and tends to have a bulky putter I believe five straight

tour events going in he was negative strokes gained putting how fitting to make a 43 footer to win your second tour event family was there awesome to see everyone on tour is now headed to Vegas where Lexi Thompson will be teeing it up heard that on the PGA tour she's going off at 2,500 to 1 I like those kind of odds on anything by the way I'm a big fan of 25 hondoes sprinkled the infield, perhaps? Okay, well, it's a place where the scores are relatively low. Tom Kim, last year shot 24 under par to win. The cut was four under last year, five under the year before.

You know, she's one of the longest hitters on the LPGA tour. It'll be interesting to see what she can do around this golf course. Obviously, it's not very hard. It's only got three par fives, and for the most part, everyone in the field can get home on them. I don't know if she can. 16 is possibly the only one she can, depending on the wind direction, but I think that's where she really makes her hay on the LPGA tour is with her length and on the par five's it's going to be different for her. I'm interested to see how she plays.

You know, hasn't had the best year. I set the over under at 151.5. Interested to see where you go. Par 71. So obviously 142 is par. You know, I'm thinking somewhere around 75, 76 would hit the under,

which isn't horrible. But this is a place where it's one of the hardest places to get the ball up and down around the greens. And we saw at the Solheim Cup, what happened with her, with her chipping. She has played better on the LPGA tour the last couple weeks with an eighth and a fifth, I believe. But this is going to be interesting. I think it's going to be a, I think it's going to be a tough week. Yeah, the three par fives, then you have the drivable par four, which I'm not sure will be reachable for her. It's just like, it's hard to make the birdies.

And if it's 151, like you said, it's like that could be respect. Like she goes shoot 75, 75, boom, there's the under. But it's like, that's going to probably be more than 10 off the cut line. It's just that they shoot so low here, especially if the wind doesn't blow. It's either like, like dome golf or the wind blows a lot. So if they get the dome golf scenario out there, I mean, guys are just going to be taking dead aim and firing 2400. You got to make so many birdies out there. And with her not being able to reach the par fives,

and like she's giving up 30-ish to the average guy on the PJ tour, like she's not flipping wedges in to these holes like a lot of these other guys. It's just going to be tough sledding. So I think anything under 150 would be like a good showing. It's just tight. I don't, this is getting a lot of buzz and stuff? If I'm a woman golfer, I don't know that I would want this because it's like, you're not just playing for you. Like, oh, let's go try to have a good week. It's like you're playing for all women.

It's like, if you go out there and play terrible, the narrative is like, see, look at how big the gap is. And it's just like, you're kind of responsible for that. And even going back to Onica when she did it at Colonial, A, that was a good golf course for her. B, she was far and away, hands down the best woman golfer on the planet. Number one in the world winning every other week it felt like out there. Like she was the best. And Lexi just, I mean, her resume isn't what Onica's was at the time. It's not a knock on Lexi.

just nobody's was. It's a tough spot to be in. I don't know if I'd want it. It is. And I believe she averages right around 273 yards off the T on the LPJ tour, which is right around 13th as far as driving distance out there. That would put her ahead of one person on the PGA tour, and that's Brian's tour. So being a short hitter, I kind of know what that's like out there on the PGA tour. It's not easy, but we wish her the best of luck. Hope she goes out and plays great. But look, it's a story. We're talking about it. It's a story. That's what they wanted. They wanted to create some buzz. I'd tell you one thing. If I'm a tournament and I want to create some buzz in the fall, going up against football, I don't think this man would ever let it happen. I know where you're

going right here. But he's all over social media. He's got a massive tournament, the parent child coming up in a few months. Get Charlie Woods out there. This is a site where Tiger picked up his first PGA tour event. You want some buzz? That's going to get a lot of attention. I have a feeling Tiger will be like, not so fast. We're not ready for that yet. But hey, they'd be talking about it. It ain't right now, but it's coming. And it's going to be just a lineup. Like, Charlie, pick one. Where do you want to play?

You'll get it. But what is he, 14? 15, I think. Did he turn 15? I think so. Is he 15? Either way. A couple years.

You know, let's give him 17. Maybe like approaching, approaching, getting into college or something like that if he even goes that route. But it's going to be just a, it ain't going to be a, oh, I got a sponsors him. I was like, which tournament do you want to play for your first one? But right now, like, a kid's still growing. Let him get some time to get some length and kind of fill out and, like, develop a little bit. There's also a scenario where you go too early and you shoot a million and it's like, boom,

what does that do to your brain? But you can have every opportunity in the world. But these fall events right now, in a way they've switched up, like, you need some storyline. It's hard to differentiate yourself and you're going against football. It's tough. So I don't blame, I don't blame Shriners for doing this, trying to do something to distinguish themselves from the other tournaments. But I think it's a, it's a tough spot for Lexi, for any woman golfer that goes out there and tease it up with the guys. Like, it's almost, it's not a no win because you can go play great. if she made the weekend be a huge story, but there's a lot of downside. I think there's more downside on the table than up.

I don't know. I just think if she goes out and plays well and makes the cut, it's huge. She'd be the first person that's Babe Saris to make a cut. Be the second person ever to do it. No one else has ever made one. Michelle We was 0 for 8. Onica obviously didn't make hers. But going back to the Charlie Woods thing, I mean, he's 14, 15 years old.

Tiger made his debut at 16 out in L.A. I mean, I'm here for one of these smaller tournaments to throw him an invite and him come out and say hello world. and let's get it going. I mean, everyone would be watching. It would be easy to know where Charlie is on the golf course because the entire gallery will be following him around. You're going to get a chance at the PNC.

I mean, they're going to show him showing up in the parking lot. Everything he does leading up to that is basically going to be the Charlie Tiger show at that thing. But just hold your horses on that because that ain't if it's when it's coming. Last bit of news that I think deserves a little conversation. Shad Tooting on the Corn Ferry Tour. They're playing their final event up there at Victoria National this week. it was jammed up around that 30th spot.

I'm talking like one shot can mean the difference between a couple positions for guys trying to get their card. He goes out, thinks he gets it done, finishes 29th and they come in. Oopsie Daisy, a little infraction playing lift clean in place, which is something that I'm sure it's happened before, but not in a situation where it's like tour card or back to the corn fairy tour. That was brutal. Yeah.

And for those that didn't see it, lift clean in place. Obviously, you can pick your ball up, clean it, and then replace it within what club length or place it within one club length of where it was no closer to the hole. Well, he went to place it on the par 515th. It rolled forward a couple inches. So he picked it up and since he already placed it, you're only allowed to replace it once. And since he already did

that, he has to put it back in that exact same spot. Well, he moved it a little bit because he didn't want it to roll again. Gained a zero advantage. But the rules are the rules. They found out later. One of the officials saw it on TV said he did not place it back where the original spot was. Therefore, he placed it twice

and that's in violation of rule number whatever, and it's a two-shot penalty, which moved him down in the tournament, ended up making him go from 29th to 32nd, allowed Rafa Campos, who missed a six-footer for Bertie on his last hole, that he thought cost him getting his PGA tour card was absolutely a wreck afterwards.

Well, with the two-shot penalty, it moved Rafa up into that 30th position, and he is headed back to the PGA tour. Just, you know, great for him, but just devastating for Shad, too. And I mean, I feel awful for, him. This is one of those things where, you know, the corn fairy isn't showed on TV every single week. If there's not a TV camera there, no one knows. Shattuton probably doesn't have a clue that he

made a mistake at all. No one in his group has any idea. And you go about your business and he's going to be on the PGA tour. But with that being said, the 31-year-old just misses out, is going to be spending another year on the corn fairy tour. And we were talking about it on our serious XM show. I mean, his last six weeks have just been horrendous. I believe he has three miscuts in there, like a 48th and a 55th before this finish at the tour championship. Just stating for him and he guts it out he goes through there turned a birdie into a bogey on that hole then he bogey's the 18th which in hindsight might have gotten it done it's just I mean for a guy that's 31 that's been this is in a 22 year old kid or 23 year old kid fresh out of college like okay I'll probably

get it next year I'm fresh out and I'm getting better he's like this is 31 he's been out there doing this for a while to have to he does still get to go to um he goes straight to finals of Q school where there are five cards up for grabs but like that's gonna be a tough that's tough sledding and his brain. That's one of those things like not only, all right, you don't go to the PJ tour next year, but it's like, how long does that carry over? How long does it take to get over that if you don't get your card at Q school and your team it back up, you know, in the Bahamas or wherever they go first off. You're like, dude, I shouldn't even be here. Yeah, but congratulations to the 30 guys who got their PGA tour card. Ben Coles won the season long points list. He is in

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Well, we got a very special guest this week. He has been the talk of the golf world, up-and-coming superstar, just played in the Ryder Cup, hadn't even played in a major championship yet. but we got Ludwig O'Bair joining us the future of golf in my opinion this guy does it all beautiful golf swing and literally makes the game look so easy it is refreshing to watch plays really quick and speaking of refreshing this episode is sponsored by tito's handmade vodka and slees i got a serious question for you fire dude because we got the tito's golf club subpar sponsorship yes are you tired of being bad at golf you know i'm tired of being bad at golf are you tired of

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Let's go 49ers. But anyways, let's get to our episode this week. The one, the only, Ludwig O'Bare on subpar. We are pleased to be joined by the hottest up-and-coming name in the world of golf right now. Only been pro for a few months. He's already captured a DP World Tour title as well as the Ryder Cup trophy. Whether you call him Aberg or Obert, the man is a beast. Ludwig joins us.

Can you just clear it up for us right of the jump? What do you like to be called? I feel like I haven't been consistent enough. It's a little bit on me as well. but you know whenever I go back to Sweden there's a little bit of a circle above my A which makes it pronounce oh ba'i it's a bit different it's a bit difficult I apologize for that but I think that's the way to do it well I'm going to mess that up go ahead and file that back to follow your group say it real quick just so we know no no I I'm going to go with your first name

yeah first name is probably the best way to do it Well, we appreciate you to join us. Congrats on everything. I want to go back a little bit because, you know, I first met you in Detroit this year at the Rocket Mortgage when you were playing well. And I got to talking to you. And I knew you went to Texas Tech, obviously, and had an incredible career there. But you told me, you went on two college visits when you came over from Sweden. It was Texas Tech and Arizona State, correct?

Three, actually. Okay, three. What was the third one? University of Utah. Okay. Interesting. Very different climates. Mm-hmm.

What made you choose? Lubbock in Texas Tech. So for me, when I got recruited, we had an assistant coach that was Norwegian, he, uh, Mikhail. So, and at the time we had had, we've had some Scandinavians and Swedes in the past. So, uh, I think it started in like 2004 with the first couple of Swedes coming over. And, um,

and, and then it's just been kind of like a, every single, you know, generation there's always been, one Swede. So I was fortunate to have one guy, another Swedish guy when I was recruited that was on the team and I could talk to him. He could tell him he could tell me kind of like some inside stuff and made it pretty easy for me. And then obviously with a coach being Norwegian, he could help me adapt to it.

And, you know, I guess I found a lot of comfort in that and it made it transition a little bit easier. Yeah, Coach Sands is a stud. Love Coach Sands. but was it snowing and Tempe the day? Or was it raining? Did you get a chance to cruise around the campus just a little bit? Maybe feel things out, the scenery?

It's beautiful campus. It was quite funny because I guess Arizona State kind of came into picture quite late. So I had already had my 10-year planned out for my college trip or for the recruiting trips. So obviously coming over from Sweden, I think I played some junior tournament as well at the same time while I was over here. but um so we only had like a night and it was like a very very quick trip uh it was direct flight from lovick to to uh to phoenix and i only spent like a couple of hours in in arizona state so i don't know maybe i mean obviously i loved it um but uh but i felt like you know at texas tech was a little bit closer to home i think yeah i mean worked out it did i mean coach sans and texas

The people of Lubbock should be very happy. You only got to spend a couple hours here in the Scottsdale area because it is beautiful. But I want to ask about your time at Texas Tech. Did you embrace the whole college life? Were you going to football games and everything? Yeah, yeah, for sure. Now, it took me well to understand it, to be honest. But you mean the rules by football and all that stuff.

But, you know, I like to be myself as a social person. I enjoy spending time off the golf course, too. I think that's equally as important. and to find different things they enjoy. And obviously, I love sports and I love hanging out with my friends. So we did that cut a lot. Have you adopted a pro football team here in the States? I have not.

I have not. I mean, Kansas, the Chiefs are very popular if you're coming from Lubbock. So because of Patrick Mahomes. But I don't have a team. It was quite funny, actually. When I was younger, I was visiting. My sister, she lives in. or she used to live outside of New York for a little bit.

So I was there in 2016, when I was 16. And I visited her and I bought a Jets hat. I had no clue about the football team, but I liked the hat, so I got one. And everyone made fun of me when I was wearing a Jets hat because they're not very good, as I realized after. So I would say maybe if I had to pick one, it would probably be those. That's okay. I mean, Aaron Rogers, whenever he's,

he gets healthy and comes back, they're going to be good again. Stay away from the Chiefs. Everybody thinks you're going to be jumping on the bandwagon. I mean, Lubbock's in Texas. You could be a cowboy fan. We need more good fans. Could be a cowboy. Could be a Cowboys fan.

I know you're a huge, as we call it, soccer over here, and your team's Liverpool, correct? Mm-hmm. Yep, correct. I heard, like, die hard. Like, you're watching every game when you can. Yeah, if I can, I'll definitely watch it. The best part about being in the stage is actually that the games are in the morning. So, you know, if I'm home, if I, you know, have a late tea time or whatever, I always try to watch the game.

And, you know, I follow very closely. And you have some late tea times of late, that's for sure. Where are you setting up like home-based here in the States? So as of now, I'm still in Lubbock where I'm renting a place with my buddy. So we're going to stay there until December. That's the plan. I haven't been there a lot since I got done in May, but we have a place. I have my stuff there still, but I'm going to move in with my buddy Vincent, Norman, in Tallahassee.

So he went to Florida State. His girlfriend went to Florida State, and he's going to be my landlord for a little bit. When you get back to Lubbock, you're going to need security around your place like Cliff Kingsbury used to have. I don't think so. I don't think so. keep all the sorority girls out. You know, you're just getting going in your pro career, but it's been so successful. I mean, I would have to think even for you, you know, winning the PGA tour, you're finishing number

one on PGA tour, you and getting out on the PGA tour, like, was Ryder Cup like kind of even on your mind at all? Or was that just like, hey, if I go out and play well, maybe I could make it? To be honest, if you would have told me a couple of months ago that I would be considered for a team, I'll probably say, no, probably not. You're just, you know, being funny. But I do remember when I went, so when I turned pro, we went to Jacksonville to the headquarters, the PGA Tour headquarters for a little briefing or rookie orientation deal. And I remember there was rules official and he told me, you know, it might be a good idea to apply for like an affiliate membership with the European tour.

Because if you do that, you'll be eligible for a Ryder Cup team. And I go, I feel it's a little bit like a push. You know, I don't, I don't really see myself there yet, maybe in two years' time. But that was the first time that, you know, we had conversations about it. And then, yeah, try to play my best and see where that took me. But it was quite cool that it ended up the way it did. That's awesome that he came out and said that. God bless that guy.

Yeah. God bless that guy. I will say, you know, I do owe you 50 bucks. I'm going to give you 10% because before Detroit, I bet my buddy gave me 5 to 1 odds on you making the Ryder Cup team, and we threw 100 on it, so I won 500 bucks. So I'll you 50 bucks next time I see you. There you go.

Ask for 20. Ask for 20%. Bucks or 20%. No, percent. Always go up. You get paired with Luke Donald up in Detroit. At that point, I feel like you got to, like that's not a normal pairing you would get,

given the category that you're in. Did you feel like that was kind of a Rider Cup tryout at that point, more or less, like de facto tryout? I mean, yeah, I think, you know, obviously being paired with the captain and everyone knew he was going to be the captain or was the captain. So I did feel a little bit of an extra nerve and excitement when we played together. But obviously, you know, it was really cool for me to, you know, spend some time with him and kind of, you know, start a relationship with him. I had talked to him at all before that. I hadn't even seen him before that.

So for me to kind of get to know him a little bit more, and, you know, I ended up playing quite well those first couple of days. And it was really fun, yeah. Yeah, you played really well because he left there saying no one has impressed him like that since Roy McRoy. So you did a pretty good job of that. I got to know, what was it like? You win the Omega European Masters, and I think everyone in the golf world knew, like, that was the moment. Like, hey, he's going to get picked. But what was it like when he finally called you and said, you're going to be a member of the European team?

It was unbelievable. It was surreal. We had just finished playing in Switzerland and after we played, you know, there was a prize giving ceremony and media and stuff. And I had a couple of minutes to myself and I get a face time call from Luke. And I was kind of freaking out a little bit and I had to go sit in a little quiet room. and, you know, he told me that I was going to be on the team, and, you know, I kind of got goosebumps as he told me that, and it was a dream come true. Who was the first person you called to tell? The first person I called, or the first people I called with my parents,

after I left, you know, the golf course in Switzerland, and called them on the way back in the car, and then I called my coach and some other people, too. Yeah, and most of the guys playing on the Ryder Cup team, obviously they've been playing pro golf for a long time. They know each other. They know the other team. Did you know anyone on the European team leading up to that Ryder Cup? I wouldn't say I knew him.

I knew Nikolai a little bit from before because we played junior golf together. We've played a few tournaments over in the States over the summer together too. And then I've only been paired with a few of the other guys. like I played with Matt and Terrell a few rounds, but I wouldn't say I knew him. I wouldn't say that I'd spend some time with him, but, and then we did, so we did like a team practice trip the week of Wentworth, and that Monday went north. And we spent some time, play together, hang out, and then kind of got started from there. I mean, this guy was born two and a half months after Tiger won his first, two and a half

years after Tiger won his first master. Yeah, what do you remember about that? most about that 97 dominance. Jesus, we're getting old. Is there anyone on that team when you went on that bonding trip that you'd like instantly click-click, but they're like, oh, dude, I like this guy? You know, I felt it's going to sound so diplomatic, but I felt like that with everyone. I felt like everyone was really nice.

And the thing that struck me the most is probably the mutual respect. And obviously, I was going to have respect for those guys. but I could really feel that they had that for me as well, which I thought was really cool at that point, that, you know, I was coming from college and I was only playing pro golf for a number of months, but they still respected me and they treated me with, you know, as I was obviously a member of the team. And it was pretty cool for me to see. All right. Well, obviously, I mean, you had a lot to go through throughout the week with the gala, the practice rounds, all the media and everything like that.

but Friday morning finally comes. And obviously Captain Luke Donovan has a lot of confidence in you. He puts you out there in the second match with Victor Hovlin. Take us through that morning or even the night before. What was it like trying to sleep that night and then getting to the golf course the next day and then finally walking through the tunnel on Friday morning to the first tee? It was, yeah. First off, it was, I think we, so we teed off early, seven something.

So, I mean, I woke up super early anyways, but I think my alarm was like four-ish. So I always have trouble falling asleep whenever I need to get up that early anyway. So I wasn't sleeping that great. I remember waking up a few times. I was obviously nervous. A lot of the excitement, the nerves, the anticipation. It's a bit nerve-wracking. Like, not going to lie, but it was really cool.

And obviously, you know, playing with Victor gives you a lot of comfort too. obviously one of the best players in the world and, you know, it's quite a nice feeling to have, but, you know, he made it very easy for me. We can talk in our own language, we can hang out, we can, you know,

we, I felt like we connected quite well. But, but yeah, I mean, I didn't hit the first T shot. I think that made it a little bit easier that morning. We were talking about it and luckily the holes

kind of set up a little bit better for me to go on evens. but it was a very, very special feeling and something that I'll never forget. And he chipped in on the first hole for you. That was a good start. Good spot to hit it over there, too. He hit the fairway. I kind of semi-shanked one to the right side of the green, and then he chipped in. All right, some big news here from Subpar. We have officially launched our own YouTube page. Make sure to subscribe at Golf underscore Subpar on YouTube.

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Not just the Rider Cup, but like every event that I've seen you in, which has been brief. You've only been out there for a handful of months. You seem like a guy that doesn't go up, doesn't go down. You're just pretty even keeled the entire time. Is that how you actually feel on the inside, or is that just what the outside appears to be? I think a little bit of both. I think, you know, what you see.

is definitely what I try to do. You know, I try to stay very not too high, not too low, but, I mean, naturally you're going to react a little bit more on the inside. I think you're going to be when I am nervous, it might not look like I'm nervous, but I sure am nervous. So like a week in Rome, I mean, to be honest, I feel like I've been nervous for the last three months. Honestly, every day it's been, you know, new experiences, playing these tournaments and

playing with new people and, you know, meeting all these new players and, you know, meeting all these new players and guys and, you know, all these new experiences that I'm having. It's just, it's nerve-wracking. Like, I'm not going to lie, it's nerve-wracking. So it might look like I'm not nervous, but, you know, I assure you I am. Yeah, well, you're handling it very well. There is no doubt about that. Well, you rest Friday afternoon.

You go back out there Saturday morning with Victor once again. Team USA is desperate. They put out two of their best players and Scotty Sheffler and five-time major winner, Brooks Kebka, and y'all made history. You set a record for the largest margin of victory, nine and seven. What was that match like? Was it just like, I mean, y'all played great, obviously. They didn't play very well.

But to beat two guys like that, nine and seven, unbelievable. It was unreal, absolutely. You know, we talked about getting off to a fast start. And because the team that we have had around us in the European team where it's very stats-driven. So, Eduardo Molinari is doing an amazing job of keeping the stats. And they told us that, you know, getting off to a fast start and match play is very, very important. So obviously, you know, that's what you try to do. That's what we talk about.

But luckily we did as well. And then we kind of kept going. But it was a bit surreal. You know, obviously me and Victor, we played quite well. But, you know, kind of keeping the foot on the gas and not letting them coming back was pretty cool. Obviously, we wouldn't ever expect to be winning the match on the 11th green, but it was quite cool to see that we could do it and that we actually did it as well. I was just heading out to cover some groups, and you guys were driving in in the car,

and I was like, what the hell just happened? What did your teammates say when you showed up? They're like, dude, aren't you? Jock wet? Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I think all the other guys were watching it on TV, so they could see what they were following the scores. But yeah, it was nuts.

I don't even know what's a day. I still don't quite understand what happened. That was, y'all winning wasn't that judge, but nine and seven against Scotty and Brooke. I was like, dude, that's a haymaker to the grill. I think you'll set some records in your day, but that one will never be broken. Probably, I mean, because that's what we were saying, me, Victor, too, like, this is one number one.

I mean, obviously Brooks is a five-time major champion. It's not like you're playing a Sunday match at your home course. Yeah, that was... What hell are you doing tying two holes? That was wild. I mean, y'all's... You don't have to hurt. Y'all's dominance in the foursums was unreal.

But, you know, a lot got made of what happened on 18 that Saturday night with the group of Patrick Cantlay and Roy McElroy. Were you back there with the team when all that happened? And what was your point of view? Yeah, I was sitting. So behind 18, 18 green. We were obviously watching the match because it was a rattling finish to the match. But to be honest, I was actually not looking at Joe and Roy when that happened,

so I didn't quite understood what happened. But obviously, I heard a crowd, you know, getting quite intense. And then obviously, you know, it was a heated discussion. I didn't quite understand it. But, you know, it is what it is. I understand the Ryder Cup, you know, kind of. brings those emotions out, which I think is great. I think it's good for the game.

And, you know, that's the way it should be. But, you know, there's also, you know, a line where I think disrespect shouldn't be on the golf course. I think you can, you know, be respectful as well as, you know, being competitive. But, you know, it is what it is. I understand that kind of comes out of you. But, yeah, it is what it is. Yeah, that passion is part of what makes the Ryder Cup cool because both sides care so much.

The fans are behind it. everything. How did that affect your locker room in any way? Like was that an extra boost of motivation going into Sunday singles? Or did you guys even just kind of push it to the side like whatever weird deal? Um, you know, we talked about in the team room. I do feel like, um, we all realized that we were in the absolute dream spot in terms of the score. Um, and nothing was ever going to change that, no matter what happened on 18. So, um, I think we were up 10, to five or something like that i can't remember but we had we had a pretty big 10 and a half five and a half yeah yeah 10 and a half so i mean obviously starting friday morning um if if someone would have asked us

if we wanted to be in that spot and we yeah obviously would have been uh wanting to be there so um i guess it maybe fueled us a little bit more gave us a little bit more to play for um if you know if we ever needed that which i probably wouldn't think we would but um but uh but but not It was pretty cool to see, you know, all the guys in the group coming together. And, you know, even though we're playing an individual sport, you know, all the, all the players came together as collective. And I felt it was it was pretty cool to be a part of. Yeah. And, you know, obviously with everything that happened with Rory getting fired up and the cameras catching it, you know, Patrick Cantley making the 40 footer on the last to bring them somewhat within shouting distance.

I have a chance. I felt like there was, it was a lot of. of momentum on USA side. And then y'all go out there Sunday morning. Victor does his job early. John Rom got an incredible tie. But there was a lot of red on the board. And you were playing Brooks Kepka. How much were you looking at the leaderboard? And at any point where you're like, oh boy, this thing, this thing's going to get pretty tight. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, I think it's hard to not look at the leaderboards. We were talking about it. And, you know, I think everyone tried to keep their head in their own game because it's easy to kind of get distracted with everything that's going

on. It's a little bit different playing Saturday to Sunday because on Saturday there's only four groups, but Sunday there's all of a sudden 12. So it's a little bit more spread out. It's not as intense. But I did feel like I got hung up watching the TV screens a little bit too much of times and kind of looking at the other groups and what they were doing, which was natural. But, you know, after I felt like I did a pretty good job during the round to not do it as much. but once I got finished, obviously I went into, you know, supporter mode and looked at the leaderboard and tried to figure out ways to, you know, figure out how we would get to 14 points for a fortune and a half. And yeah, I mean, not going to lie, got pretty nerve-wracking towards the end.

And, you know, I think when I looked up and Sep was down and I know it looked like it was going to come down to the last couple of matches with Tommy and Bob. And it did with Tommy's matches as well. But it was quite nerve-wracking. But, yeah, obviously, really, really cool the way it turned out. Yeah, it got interesting for a while, more interesting than a lot of us thought it might get. And Ludwig, like, a big media narrative leading into this, and this is your first time, so you don't know what it was like prior, but there was, all right, the European locker room,

there's no Sergio, there's no Stinson, there's no Westwood, there's no Polter, all these guys had been around for so long. In your opinion, who was the vocal leader or kind of the alpha guy in that locker room for Team Europe this year? Yeah, I think that's what Luke did is such a good job of. I mean, he did a lot of things very well. But I do feel like there was a nice dynamic between experience, between younger people, between, you know, obviously everyone's world class too.

But, you know, a guy like Rory, a guy like Justin with all the other people. these experience that they have. And, you know, for me, kind of coming in younger doesn't really have any experience at all in those situations. And I try to listen to them as much as I can and try to pick their brains as much as I can and then understand what, because everyone's feeling the same emotions, whether you've played six or you've played one. Everyone's going to be nervous on the first tee. Everyone's going to be, you know, excited about playing. But if they can give me a tip on how to, you know, maybe handle that or whatever, uh, that can go a long ways.

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I mean, being a part of that winning team in your first ever Ryder Cup, how crazy was the celebration? It was very cool. I mean, the last couple of years I've been drinking with my college friends, but now I was something I was drinking with these guys. So that was very different. But, you know, we had a fun night. We stayed at a hotel.

about 40 minutes from the golf course. So every morning or every day, we had a pretty decent bus ride or a cab ride. So we were on that bus together going from the golf course to the hotel, and it was very fun. Everyone screaming shout. Everyone was obviously very happy, and then got back to the hotel and started to drinking again.

And it was really fun. America is terrified and Europe is on fire. Yeah. Is that what it was? I think that's what it was. Yeah, that was something like that. I think I'm going to have that song in my head for a while. Yeah, I think the Americans will too.

All the cool, all the chance and all the cool shit y'all do over there. Is that come from like soccer and like they just kind of tweak the chance, a lot of them? Could be. It could be, a lot of those are the same melodies. So they just really change the lyrics a little bit. And I think that's really cool because, I mean, you're never going to hear that on a normal golf tournament. You're never going to hear that, you know, at the British Open or something like that. It's just going to be at the Ryder Cup.

That's what makes it so special. And you could really feel that support. Like they're actually rooting for you and no one else. Well, you're playing a normal golf tournament. They're just, you know, if you're making a pot, well, good for you. But now they're actually wanting you to make a pot, which you can very much feel when you're putting on those greens. Yeah, that was our first Ryder Cup in Europe as well. And, I mean, it is special.

We get body back. It was so cool. but I know it's a long ways away, but the next one is up at Bethpage Black in New York and their fans can get rather rowdy. How much are you looking forward to represent Team Europe again over here in America this time? Absolutely. We talked about that a little bit, actually, that next time it's going to be different. It's going to be very, very different.

And I do think, I think Rory said it in his press conference that one of the biggest achievements in golf right now is to win an away rider cup, which I can totally understand. And, you know, it's not easy coming away. And you've got to have some thick skin when you're playing, which is also a part of it. But, yeah, obviously, you know, for me, if I were to be a part of that team, I would be over the moon. And to put the European clothes back on would be unbelievable, yeah. I got a good feeling you might make your way onto that team. If I'm a betting, man.

See if I can get that same five to one from that knitwit, buddy. I don't think I'm going to get five to what odds this time. Are you, and you're playing this week at the centers, and are you concerned with the overwhelming noise of the fans this week in Mississippi, being that you're coming off such a quiet week now, I'm joking. It was, that is cool that you chose to honor, sorry, that is cool you chose to honor your, you know, your commitment to, was there ever a moment that night at the party when you're like,

maybe I don't want to get on a plane and fly over here? No, I mean, I already had my ticket. It was too late. But it was quite funny. I was sitting today in the lunchroom at Sanderson's. And I sent a picture in our group chat and said, I can't believe none of you guys are not playing here with me this week. And everyone was laughing.

And then I sent a picture. Luke actually asked me, like how the first team vibes. And I sent a picture of the first team. And it was like two people, two volunteers sitting there. And it's deadly quiet. And it was quite funny. Very different. Yeah, I don't think the adrenaline is going to be pumping.

quite as much as it was the first tea Friday morning. I think I'll hear those fans either. Definitely not. You might hear a few olays from the people down there in Mississippi. Yeah, they get it. They get it. Before we get to the E9 and have some fun with you, I got, I think, you know, we have about seven women that listen to this show.

Yeah. Out of the 80,000 or so, they probably would like to know what's your lady situation like. Ooh. Yeah, no, absolutely. Single girlfriend? I do, yeah. She's actually, she's here with me this week. as well in Mississippi. It was quite funny. So we haven't been dating for that long. So

she, her first golf tournament ever was the Ryder Cup that she went to. Wow. Okay. That's what they're all like. Is that what you tell her? They're super cool like that all every week. Yeah. So I told her, I mean, this is every week. Yeah. That's fine. Yeah. That's it. But I set it up for disappointment. You know, she's going to compare everything to the Ryder Cup from from this point on and, you know, that's on me. I'll take that. I'll take place for that. But yeah. All right. So, never be disappointed with anything. That's the way they are as a breed to our seven female listeners, too. Yeah, apologies to our moms and aunts. All right, you want to get to the nine? I got one, actually have one real one and one goofy one. My real one is like, you come across

like a pretty soft-spoken guy. You like your privacy. You're not out there on social media going crazy all the time. How are you dealing with like the newfound media attention? Now, everyone wants to get to know Ludwig. Has that, has it been too much at times? I would say both yes and no. You know, just like you said, I'm not very out there on social media. I don't, you know, post on Instagram a lot. But, you know, I try to keep it very close.

Like, the people closest to me I spend a lot of time with and I talk with them a lot. But other than that, I'm not really interested in other people, if that makes sense. Like, I try to. That's beautiful. a little rude and selfish, but I have my people close to me and, you know, that's great. And, you know, I trust them with everything and, you know, I try to keep it that way. But it is, it is new. It's new for everyone.

It's new for me as well. But, you know, I try to embrace it. I try to have fun. And, you know, it's a part of it, I guess. And it comes with it. That might be the smartest thing I've ever heard said on our show about, I'm not really interested in other people. I love it. Keep that. It's beautiful, by the way. I think you've handled it well, and I think you do it the right way, man. I mean, have you seen some of the people we've had

on this show? We have some real dummies on this show, Ludwig. I expect you to be a listener going forward. You're going to feel like Einstein compared to some of these people. Do you want to get to the E9? Yeah, let's get to the E9. This is fun. I'll give you just some goofies. All right, we ask this to everyone, Ludwig. You can trade places with anyone in the world. Dead, alive, whatever it is. You get to be them for a day. Who would it be? Stephen Jared, football player, soccer player. Oh yeah. Old Stevie.

Okay. Yeah, we get him a lot. Play for Liverpool, I'm guessing? Yes, he did. Beautiful. Okay. That was a quick answer, too. That's fitting.

Yeah, I feel like you've thought about that before. All right. First one from me, all right, we know kind of like the MVP's on each side of the actual Rider Cup, but in your professional opinion, you were just talking about, give me the MVP of the after party that night. Could be from either side. Who left it out, left it all out? there.

Shane Laurie. Of course. Not surprising. He was the massive favorite. Minus 20,000. I did see Tyrol was the last one standing, though, I believe. Tiro was pretty good, too, yeah. Where did you rank?

Myself? Yeah, where were you? Out of the 12, would you, middle of the pack, bottom? Where would you go? Probably middle of the pack, yeah. Good. All right, you know, respectable. Respectable.

Love it, kid, of course. I love that. All right. You've only been pro for a few months now, but most starstruck you were by another golfer when you turn pro. Rory. Kind of figured that. Yeah.

Like, what was it? Where was it? Do you remember? It was the practice trip at Marcus Simone when we played together. Oh, why? Oh, so just a few weeks ago. It was three days ago. Yeah.

It was the Monday at Wentworth, yeah. We played together the first time. And you can just tell it's different. Like, the way the ball comes out of the face, the way he hits it. It's just different. But it was cool. But that's what people say. Not that Rory isn't the guy,

but that's the same thing people say about you. And you can kind of hit it with Rory. Which to me sounds like nuts. But yeah, I mean, he's different. Yeah. So I'm firing a few on the range that made me want to shoot myself. It's like different sport. Different sport.

But you're doing it. Here's a serious one. normally do these in E-9s, but all right, we've talked about, you've got a quick rise from college to the pro ranks, a lot of success during that time. If you had to pick one guy who's currently in college who you think could have a somewhat similar trajectory as you've had, who would you pick? I would pick Michael Thorpe Bjornton. He, uh, we played a lot together the last couple of years. It felt like every tournament we got paired together with Stanford. And, uh, I would say that we're quite similar in the way we play is he's an unbelievable driver hits the ball very straight

very far and um and you know he can get on on streaks that no one else can that i know so um i would probably give him hit give him that spot i like that we had him on the show a few months ago great great guy no he's he's a good player i know he's he's uh struggling with some some injuries right now but um you know hopefully he'll be back uh as soon as possible because he's he's a he's a an unbelievable player. That's a good answer. All right. Next one.

Rather miss the cut at a regular PGA tour event or have Liverpool lose to Manchester United. I absolutely hate missing cuts. So even though I mean, I absolutely hate Man United too, but I think missing the cut from a self-expected is going to be that. Good answer. Okay. That's a man about his business.

All right. We talked about Texas Tech a bit. beautiful city of Lubbock, Texas. If you could take one thing from Lubbock back to Sweden, give it to all of Sweden. They have it in every town. What would it be? One thing, that would probably be.

I mean, it would probably have to be some kind of food. I would probably say a Chick-fil-A or a Chip-Polet. It would probably be a good thing. That was your first meal back in America, right, Chipotle? Yeah, it was, actually. I actually got a DM from Chipotle today. Yes. The fact they're not in golf with the amount of people that love them is mind-blown.

Tell me you need one of those gold cars. And every tour event we play, there's always one Chipotle where, you know, you see seven guys at every dinner. Like, they should do something. They're missing it. Victor loves it. You talk about Ellie after he was like, I don't, I won't worry about getting double Glock anymore. Victor played with the CEO of Chipotle at Pebble last year. They got to get involved.

Whoever the marketing person is, figure it out. Yeah. All right. Next one for me. You got all the money you've made so far. You have to put it on one side. Would you take Patrick Cantley to wear a hat at the next Rider Cup or Victor Hovlin to show up with a date?

Probably Victor with the date, yeah. Oh. He's got options, too. I think his DMs are full right now. I think so. I don't think he's going to have an issue with that, but I think that'll be a good one. That was a good question. Thank you. I try every once in a while. The picture he took with the wives and girlfriends was fantastic. It was hilarious. I loved it. He's, he is so funny, man. I love that guy. He's a beauty. Any jealousy in the European team room over all the female attention Victor was getting.

Saw a chick proposed to him on the first tee. That is true. I think we were all quite set. but no, it was a funny one. Yeah, he's lurking. He's dangerous. All right, last one for me, a little big. You didn't know anything about the other schools in the Big 12, I'm assuming, before you got to Lubbock. After spending four years there, which school do you dislike the most?

Which one is the Manchester United of the Big 12 for you? You know, I kind of, obviously, you know, tech is kind of the smaller school. we don't really have that big of a rivalry. You know, it's OU versus Texas, and we're just in the little corner. But, you know, for me, I always hated, absolutely hated losing to Oklahoma when we play golf.

You know, maybe because they were so good, maybe because their coaches are unbelievable. But I absolutely hated it. So I think I have to go with Oklahoma. Beautiful. Great answer. All right. Last one. Is it true Ryan Gosling owes you a rather nice thank you gift since you passed on the role of Ken in the Barbie movie to focus on your golf career?

That was actually funny. I had no clue about this up until maybe three weeks ago, four weeks ago, that my coach was he was calling me that behind my back. It was kind of funny. And apparently that story reached Sweden too. So I had like Swedish. friends texting me saying like, oh, is this true? Is this what your name is? It was quite funny. I don't think I would do a very good actor, though. Yeah, but it's a compliment. Ken's a good guy. There's worse nicknames. I mean, he gets to hang out with Margo Roby in the movie. They do a sequel. Yeah, should maybe jump on that, even though you've got this new lady. But all these golf shows and everything, they're like, we need a nickname for him. And I mean, Ken? Ken's pretty simple. Yeah, I guess my last name is different.

difficult enough, so maybe. Yeah. Ken's easier to know. Easy to pronounce. I agree. Yeah. Say it again real quick. How do you say it?

I still don't have it. I'm calling you Ludwig from now on, dude. And we'll butcher your last name, but we're sorry. Are you, you not wearing a hat? Are you protesting something, dude? You're the worst. Joking. Awesome.

Well, thank you so much for joining us. Best of luck this week, and we'll see you soon. Thank you. I appreciate it. All right. That was the young superstar Ludwig Obert. We did figure out how to say his name. Well done. Got it going.

By the way, I thought we were going to have another little subpar situation where they come on and boom, they automatically win, ended up losing in a playoff there to Luke List at the Sanderson's farm. But a lot of people have been saying, you know, his name's a little difficult to say. People feel like there's many different ways to say it. He needs a nickname. Well, little did he know. And little did we know, he already has one. Thanks to his college coach Greg Sands out there at Texas Tech.

They call him Ken behind his back from Barbie. Love that. By the way, it's a huge compliment to him. It's a great nickname. Oh, I'm the perfect male. Gravy or Ken? Which one's you're out of that? I'm good looking and I'm great.

My golf swing's perfect. Everything about me is perfect. I think Sands had a quote one time. It was like, you know, we were kind of almost hoping he would do something to make realize like this dude's a human because he was just unflappable. I mean, two-time, two-time player of the year in college. He's a B. Hogan Award.

Yeah, the Hogan Award. He won it two times. First guy since John Rom to do that. And like, there just hasn't been any growing pains for this guy. We damn near are coming on right now and being like, okay, he's been pro for a handful of months. He's already won on the DP World Tour. he's already won on the PGA tour and he's won a rider cup like it just doesn't seem phase and you listen to the interview like there ain't too much up and down with old Ludwig he's pretty

even killed the dude reminds me of Ivan Drago from Rocky four just like the perfect specimen this is the perfect golfer he's way nicer he's yeah just like but in terms of like his bill like if you were going to build a modern day golfer like we want him to hit bombs i think he led the field and driving distance at sanderson uh we should also make him really straight we should make him perfect tall big good looking like he's he's the prototype for modern day golf and he's going to be a beast for a long time but that was awesome for him to sit down with us i mean obviously coming from rome playing so much golf as of lay he's got to be exhausted but he was kind enough to sit down with us love talking with him also got to figure out who's in charge of recruits at arizona state how you let

this kid get out of Scottsdale tempi area got to take him to the right spots oh my god how can they say no coach thurman what are we doing uh by the way last thing that needs to be figured out where's chipotle marketing team 90% of the PJ tour is obsessed with with Chipotle figure it out well I don't get them a bag with half the tinfoil around it like do something I don't think their business is hurting huh I don't think Chipotle's business is hurting why why waste money on market when everybody does it all right is Amazon advertise they ain't hurting either but I mean damn you got half the tours is in love with this place figure it out all right well he's going to be teeing up in Vegas this week the young fella is taking no time off and he is the second betting favorite out there

there behind defending champion Tom Kim. For me, this tournament's tough because you look at guys, okay, like who really likes Vegas? Who likes to enjoy Vegas? Who's going to be focused on golf and who's not? That's what went into my decision a lot. I think you've got to be a really good putter around here because, I mean, the scores are normally always crazy low.

You've got to get into somewhere in the mid-20s if you want to have a chance to win. I'm going with the guy who can roll the rock. He's a member of the 59 club, which can be done around TPC someone. I'm going with the Canadian Adam Hadwin at 35 to 1. 35 to 1. I think he'll be focused. I like that. It's hard to not pick Ludwig right after him being on the show and almost winning.

I'm going down a little bit further as well. I'm going with a guy. Like you said, you got to kind of take inventory. Like, who's here for recreation? Who's here to play? I think I got one of the guys that can do both because he's played well here before. He was eighth last year. He makes a ton of birdies when he gets going.

By the way, you're going to have to shoot probably if the weather's good, 20 plus under par to win around here. Five times last year he shot 8. 18 under or better. What better place to shake a little ass than Las Vegas. Give me Siwu. 25 to 1. Careful with Sea Woo. I know he's riding high right now. Doesn't have to do his mandatory military, but the man loves some action. He's handled it though in years, he could also just be in his happy place. Like I get golf and then I get to get away from golf out there. But it's a good time to shake some ass, dude. I love me some Siwu. All right, my dark horse going off at 55 to 1.

And it's just shocking to me what the college and amateur career he has, that he has not won on the PGA tour, smashes it, great ball striker. I don't think he'll be staying down on the strip. He's a Stanford Cardinal. 55 to 1, give me Patrick Rogers. Oh, okay. Keep it a little lower key.

It's focused. Lower key around Vegas. I got a guy coming up. I think he'll enjoy himself in Las Vegas. A lot to offer the young man. He's going off at 65 to 1. Start off this fall. He played very well.

at the fortnight top 15 there had to start off great last week just had a bad weekend couldn't get it going but he does make a lot of birdies when he gets going as highlighted by his opening round last week at the sanderson where he made a ton barely had any pars sammy rider 65 to one let's go get that dub kid all right he likes that he enjoys a good time he ain't scared of a good time he ain't afraid of a good all right i'm going to throw a little football pick in there for you um this one is just ridiculous ton of points but they covered for the first time all season so i think they're going to get a little street going, the dogs. Give me the number one team in the country, the University of Georgia over Vanderbilt, giving up 31 and a half, but they did finally cover against Kentucky last week.

I think they're going to make it two in a row. They look good starting out. I had them early, I had a little first half play on them. Can I start off this segment by saying a team that's now dead to me? It's not TCU. They just stink. It's Kansas State Wildcats. They're fraudulent, and they have screwed me virtually every single week this week. We'll not be bad in case. State for the remainder of the season. However, took a quick glance at these. Tough for me to find one I really love, but I do think Fresno State is a good team. They lost last week to Wyoming. Big win for Wyoming, national television, all that. I think they bounced back minus five and a half over Utah State, which I don't think they're terrible, but I think Fresno's like a legit top 25 team. Just

Laramie is a strange beast, especially at night. So give me Fresno, bounce back minus five and a hook over Utah State. And I want to say I appreciate the love from Stanford Steve during game day last week rocking the SMU pony gear i saw that what's the relation to that he loves i text he on an nil what's he he loves the mustangs man i'm they got some cash to dish out they ain't getting players might as well get stanford steve all right special shout out as well to joey parteen of louisiana who won our ace of clubs USA bag yes love that if you're going to have a lot more giveaways in the future all you got to do is make sure you go to our youtube page subscribe like do all that we're going to have some future contest but congratulations joey hope you enjoy that beautiful ace of clubs USA bag

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