Subpar - Masters Special: Jon Rahm interview and a major announcement for our fans

Episode Date: April 6, 2021

On this week's episode of GOLF's Subpar, the #3 ranked golfer in the world Jon Rahm joins former PGA Tour pro Colt Knost and his close friend and on course rival Drew Stoltz for an exclusive, in-studi...o, interview. A top ten finisher in three consecutive Masters, Jon talks his favorite aspects of the event, if he would leave mid-tournament if his wife goes into labor, and how his recent switch to Callaway has changed his game. Colt and Drew also provide a major announcement for fans looking to #getamongstit.

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Starting point is 00:00:11 Hello world. Welcome to a very special master's edition of golf subpar, Coltnosed and Drew Stolt. Obviously, before we get to it, let's just address the elephant in the room. Sleys, you've got an incredible t-shirt on, get amongst it. Subpar, master's edition, the green and yellow. They are out now. We finally got the merch. Tell them all about it, Sleez. Yes, how about this thing?
Starting point is 00:00:32 Special in for Augusta Week. What better week to launch? I know it's been a long time coming for a lot of the listeners. We've been reaching out asking about it, but the merch is now available. We are happy to say you go. go to golf.com pro shop to get the subpar merch that's pro shop dot golf dot com slash masters colt we got hats visors hoodies we got get amongst it we got golf subpar stuff we got our birdie juice new line that we're trotting out there a little little birdie that likes to get amongst it
Starting point is 00:00:57 a little bit snapped up we got all kinds of stuff coming in it's great to finally have it i'm glad that we could do this for everybody and uh what better timing than a master you know master's week and that's why i got the the green and yellow on here today yeah you always look great but you look very, very dapper today. I'm very impressed. I appreciate you saying that. Make sure you, make sure everyone goes out there, picks up their new subpar swag.
Starting point is 00:01:19 It's going to be awesome. I hope y'all enjoy it. But so as we've got to get to the man of the hour. Our guy, the Golden Child, Jordan Speeth got the job done at the Vuelo, Texas Open. It's been a long time coming, almost four years,
Starting point is 00:01:31 but he finally knocked the door down and got that 12th T. T.J. Tour victory. And I believe you have the stats on what he's done since he came on golf subpar. Like we said before, we're trying to become the reverse match. Madden curse, like going madden cover, your career goes to hell.
Starting point is 00:01:43 You come on subpar and you get rejuvenated and you start doing some special things. I know you got the stats. What are the stats since he came on? Yeah, so since he appeared on golf subpar there in Dallas, he has gone tied for fourth, tied for third, tied for 15th, tied for fourth, tied for 48th. That week doesn't count. Tied for ninth and then a win last week in San Antonio. So quite the run he's been on.
Starting point is 00:02:03 So, hey, any of you guys out there struggling, give us a call. We can be, we can be bribed. We're more sports psychologists than we are media guy. You know what I mean? We really, we peel back the layers like an onion. We get to the bottom of the problem and we just kind of rewire the brain to make sure you're bringing out your best stuff. But dude, it was so cool to see Jordan do that yesterday. It's been a long time coming. Like you said, almost four years. He's been answering the same questions during those whole time. When's it coming back, all those sort of things. And then all of a sudden, he starts to have this resurgence, which really started, I think, around the third round at Phoenix when he shot that 61 played his played his way into contention that week. And then started doing that every single week. He hadn't won and that conversation doesn't end until he wins. and he did it this past week at Valero and he did it in a tough way man Charlie Hoffman god you got to take the cap to him he played unbelievable golf especially after that first round 75 but they had to battle and there's good shots bad shots but speed looked like the speed of old when he was winning every put that mattered seemed to find the middle yeah it was awesome and
Starting point is 00:02:58 we got to talk about what happened on 18 where him and michael greler were talking about possibly going from the green from 270 yards on 18 i was a nervous wreck i was exchanging text with Justin Thomas. I'm like, can you just please lay up? And Justin wrote back in all caps, what in God's name is going on right now? Like, we were all like, this is a no-brainer. You hit eight iron out there. You lay it up. You hit a wedge on. You make Charlie make Eagle, which, yeah. I mean, the chances are very, very slim. And he was actually contemplating hitting three wood. I was like, dear God, no, I'm surprised I didn't get a noise complaint from the front desk at the Mary out here in Augusta because I was screaming at my TV. Yeah, that conversation
Starting point is 00:03:32 went on a, last about 45 seconds, which was about 41 seconds longer than I felt like it should. Hey, you like three wood? Nope, I sure don't. Here's your options right here. And they start at seven iron and then they go down. I mean, it's one of those things. There's so many options on that 18th hole at TPC. Like even laying up, all right, do you lay up left? Do you lay up right? With that pin location, the right lay up and makes it tough, ball could easily bounce over. But at that point, it's easy to sit there and save from the couch. But the three would I had, I was just like, what world are we living in right now where three wood is an option on this? You're trying to get the job done. Make Charlie make a three from the right rough.
Starting point is 00:04:02 He even had a little tree stress behind him on his follow through. That's a tough ask. Get your five. the hell out of there and eventually made the right decision. And now we can end all the is Jordan Steve back talk. We can end all that. Actually, in some books, dude, quickly, he became the betting favorite. He's a co-favorit. And on some books, he's like five and a half to one, which a number of weeks ago, you could have got him at 60 to one. So you like Jordan. Maybe he should have bet him about a month ago. I was very high on him coming into the week before he won. And now it's just like, okay, everything's starting to line up. Look out. Jordan Speath is going to be dangerous once he drives down Magnolia Lane.
Starting point is 00:04:37 But as we mentioned, it's a very special Master's Edition. And our guest this week, you've seen him before. Our very first ever interview on Golf Subpar, the great John Rom, sits down with us to discuss all things masters, did a little rider cup, becoming a father, all kinds of things. This was a lot of fun sitting down with John. Yeah, we touch all the bases with John. He couldn't be a better dude. He comes in, you know, pretty much whenever he asks. I think we'll end up having him another time or two throughout the year.
Starting point is 00:05:02 But cool to get the perspective of a guy that's, you know, top three in the world right now and what he's learned. learned going through Augusta as many times as he has now. What he does differently, how he plays that golf course, playing predominantly a left to right ball fright on a golf course that everyone says, got to hit it right to left. I don't know if that's necessarily the case. Which he discusses and says, you know what, that's just kind of a little bit of a myth. You really don't have to play right to left around Augusta. Yeah, there's a guy named Jack Nicholas who didn't hit a draw, and he's done pretty well around there. But yeah, it's fun picking his brain and getting into all that. And then with the,
Starting point is 00:05:31 you know, the birth of his child coming up, little young Keppa coming into the world. It's a big week for Johnny, and it was awesome to have him sit down with us. Yes, it was. And obviously, the Masters is a huge deal in Spain. They have five green jackets, you know, between Sergio, Jose Marielle, Elthabble, and Sevi-Biastero. So John looking to become that, get the sixth green jacket for the country of Spain. It was a lot of fun. But before we get to John Rom, a word from our official sponsored, draft kings.
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Starting point is 00:07:09 We got our first ever two-time guest on the show. He's a third-ranked player on planet Earth, five-time tour winner, soon-to-be-father of a baby boy. John Rom, welcome back. It's good to be back. It's good to have you. It's been a little over a year since you sat in that chair right there. Have you worked on your rap skills at all since your debut on Golf Sub-PAR? I think COVID put a pause on everything.
Starting point is 00:07:35 That included. On everything. On everything, that included. I thought there would have been a good time to revive the career. No. Stay in the studio, getting a laugh a little bit. No, no. I haven't really.
Starting point is 00:07:46 Well, a lot's been going on in the life of John Rom. Obviously. Made a big equipment change, which we're going to get to. You're soon to be father. What else has been going on with you? I mean, you've said pretty much and many things. Yeah, I moved into a new house. Nogne.
Starting point is 00:08:03 Yeah, needed the room with a baby. too much golf, let's say, stuff that I don't use. Yeah. Well, how is, let's talk about the baby a little bit. How's Kelly doing? Anything changed on the date? Still the same plan? Well, you guys haven't seen her.
Starting point is 00:08:16 Yeah. She, first of all, for somebody who's at this point, 38, going on 39, which is pregnant, does not look that long. She looks maybe seven months. And then she's been doing great. I mean, she's had a great pregnancy, barely any problems. The only thing she's had because she had no morning sickness, nothing was, some nausea while cooking some things.
Starting point is 00:08:39 So you're saying I've puked more since she's been pregnant than she has. She has once. Yeah, I'm winning. She has one. You get nighttime sickness, dogs. She gets morning as well. Mine's in the morning as well. For any father who hears this, he probably had to go through it, obviously.
Starting point is 00:08:53 At 30, I win's pregnant. She slipped, I think, two nights ago, 11 hours straight. Yeah. Maybe I'm pregnant. Which, to be honest, it's hard for like 90% of the population, right? I checked, but damn, now that you say it, it could be a chance. But other than that, everything's good. Date's still the same?
Starting point is 00:09:09 What are we, we're looking, what, what are the, there's a range, right? I'll say like I did it. It's for the gamblers. Don't put too much faith on me. April 10th to the 12th is the due date expectancy, which is Saturday of the Masters to Monday after. Now, everybody says first child usually is late. I'm hoping it's either earlier late.
Starting point is 00:09:31 I just hope it's not on time at this point, but if it happens, I said a million times and said it again, no matter what, I'm out. Do you, have y'all revealed the sex of the baby? Yeah, it's a boy. Oh, yeah. Incredible. Baby Spaniard. Just can come and come out rapping.
Starting point is 00:09:46 He might. He might if he's got the jeans. All right, well, so what's the plan? You're going down there. You said everyone, if the call comes, well, I'm down there. I'm out of there. What is the game plan down there? Like, you're going to have a cell phone on you?
Starting point is 00:09:56 How are you going to get the word? My catty has a phone. Check every whole type of deal? No, just have them vibed or something like that. Which I know it's, to guess, on National Union are not allowed to, but I'm hoping for that they make an exception. You think they'll let you slide on that? I'm hoping for that. Well, let's talk a little bit about the master's. Otherwise, we're going to have to figure out
Starting point is 00:10:15 to get in contact with somebody so they can let me know. I'll come running out and I'll walk out and I'll tell you can't run there. I was going to say the running out of. Yeah, I'm not running. It was not really getting in it. One good rule about Augusta, you can't run. That's very good for me being around there. See, going like this? Yeah. Then you got to get the hell out of there. That's true. Well, it's actually not too bad. I can tell Kelly. She can text you. You tell CB. Yes, somebody comes in. No problem at all.
Starting point is 00:10:37 Be happy to help. If you're in contention, I might just be like, hey, my phone's not working. Sorry. Yeah, what's the cutoff? Realistically, if you're on the 71st T, four shot lead, Hey, dude, it's happening. Then what? I mean, listen, 71st T.
Starting point is 00:10:51 Yeah, dude, right there. There's two holes to go. I think 30 minutes. She might give me 30 minutes. Okay. She might. But you can use that time to hopefully get the plane ready, get my stuff ready to finish and go.
Starting point is 00:11:04 Yeah, I think 70. Maybe what about, let's keep creeping back. So we joked about it. We joked about it. And I don't know how series says about it is, if I'm going to the back nine with a chance to win, she might wait to tell me no. Or the people there will wait to let me know until I'm done.
Starting point is 00:11:22 But those two hours, I think that's fair. It can be a lot. And what's the chance to win, right? Because we've seen comebacks. We've seen a lot of things. Eight shots. No, no.
Starting point is 00:11:29 Let's say four. Within four, with nine holes to play. No, if it's four, she'll do. tell me and I'm out. Oh, what? Eagle 13, Eagle 15. You ever heard of AIMN corner? No, I know, but it's like, I mean, that it's, it needs to be a little bit more
Starting point is 00:11:45 realistic. I think we talked about it if it was, we think two. Okay. Boy. It all depends, though. What if I'm team off like two hours before the leaders and I'm just having a heater of a round, right? So you might catch a playoff.
Starting point is 00:11:57 Yeah. What if you're in the air and there's a playoff best? Oh, I'm out. I'm out. That will be epic to finish and win. And then where's John? Yeah, sorry, boys. You win.
Starting point is 00:12:07 Let's talk a little bit about your history at the Masters, though, because four Masters, T-27, you've got a fourth, T-9, T-7. Obviously, pretty good the last three years. Do you remember the first time you ever watched the Masters on TV? It's hard because he comes so late or early in the morning in Spain. I was going to ask, like, did you wake up in the middle of the night to watch? No, I had a pretty strict 9-30 curfew when I was young. So I could only catch moments like the next day.
Starting point is 00:12:34 highlight so looking back like what what's one of the memories that really sticks out like the first thing that I remember because we were in a on a vacation with family friends was Phil playing the back nine when he won his first master snow for oh wow yeah yeah you were so young yeah how old were you like most people we get on like oh dude tiger 97 that was when I started playing golf you were just seven and a half maybe something like that yeah exactly so everything before that it's a little like and I remember the chip in highlights the next morning my that showed me because he stayed up to watch it.
Starting point is 00:13:07 Tiger's tripping highlights, obviously, this is my minute in 05. So that's kind of the early. I remember watching his shot in 14 and just thinking how the heck did that not go in. Yeah. It just looked like he was going in. And that's the first memory I have. Was the first time you went down Magnolia Lane,
Starting point is 00:13:23 the first time you played the Masters? Yeah. Oh, wow. Actually, not the Masters. I went about a month before. So that was the first time I went down McNally and then. Tell us what that moment was like. because we're two guys that have never driven down Magnolia Lane.
Starting point is 00:13:38 Oh, you want to? You're going to be there? Yeah, I'm going, John. So, it's, honestly, every time after that feels the exact same. Good, bad, boring, great. Great. I mean, butterflies in your stomach. You know you're in a special place.
Starting point is 00:13:52 It's just, it's a gas to national. You know what it represents and what it means for everybody. It's, you're pumped. I mean, to say the least, you're really pumped. It's like, the one place we're like, okay, this is, you're here. It's unique. It's very, very unique. and it's hard explained unless you experience it yourself.
Starting point is 00:14:06 Yeah, the lights are on. I mean, since you've come out, basically, every major that comes up, your name that's very popular, people picking you to win and things like that. This year with what's going on with the baby situation, is it almost kind of a breath of fresh air for you, being that you're not under the radar? Like, you'll never be under the radar,
Starting point is 00:14:20 but you're probably flying as low on the radar as you possibly can going into a major for a long time. I honestly don't know. I'm not thinking about it. I'm assuming, not that I'm going to be a favorite, but I'll be up there within the favorites, right? because again we don't know what's going to happen i'm still going there to get ready to prepare to win so that's what i was going to ask is is your preparation this year any different from last year no
Starting point is 00:14:44 that's good news yeah no i'm still going there for the committed to win what do i'm sorry if no if she goes into labor obviously that is that's the trump card right i mean it's above all so no matter what i'm doing and wherever i am i'm back yeah then it's toast yeah then it's a wrap well what do you do leading into your guy that doesn't you like to take the week off before major championships. What do you do for Augusta specifically that you wouldn't do for like, how do you prepare differently versus a regular tour event? So I did play the Houston Open once my first year because that course was set up similar to Augusta. Since now it's San Antonio, which is not really anything close to what Agusta plays like, right? It's extremely windy, firm and fast,
Starting point is 00:15:25 and Augusta the last few years has been rather soft and it's wide open. I know San Antonio I haven't been with what I see. It's kind of narrow. And you need to shoot a bit. a million and a half under par. And Augusta is not really like that. So it really doesn't set up like the best course to get ready for it. And especially if you make it far in matchplay. It's such a draining week that just getting mentally rested is important. And a week like this, you know, I've been playing good. I've been really focused on trying to improve my putting because this year hadn't been great. And it was better at matchplay. So keep working on what I was doing, just improving that. And then the usual stuff you do for Augusta, right? I mean, uh,
Starting point is 00:16:04 Very important lack potting, very important distance control. I'll say there's the main two things that I would think of. Obviously, short games important, but a lot of it is where you live yourself, right? Because if you leave yourself in the importance in the impossible spots, it doesn't matter who you are, you're not getting up and down. What's your schedule like once you get there? Is it 18 holes Monday, Tuesday? Obviously there's part three, which isn't happening this year.
Starting point is 00:16:26 True, yeah. I usually just play nine holes a day. Nine holes a day? Yeah. Just trying to stay fresh? Yeah. I mean, when I came early on, and I was seeing courses for the first time, I will play 18. But at this point, I played it enough.
Starting point is 00:16:38 And I feel like if I really focus on nine holes and do my job and just put in, you know, a lot of effort, I'll get more out of it that if I just, you know, basically breeze through 18 holes. What's a nine-hole practice round at the Master's at, like three hours? Not really. It all depends. What time you go. Yeah. And what nine you're going on. If you go early of the back nine, it won't take that much time.
Starting point is 00:17:01 What do you talking about you're working on a lot of lag plugging clearly that's the thing that the yeah it's a big factor at augusta how hard is that to do like you're here in scottes though right now augustus greens are one of one there's nothing quite like that in the world how do you practice that and try to simulate what augusta's like when there's really nothing speed and slopewise yeah it's it's what you try to get it be as precise as you can be where you're at and then uh hopefully the field transfers when you get to augusta to be honest a lot of times i get there and i'm putting from memory like you since it's the same setup every year I have a memory of what the stroke is supposed to be and I've heard jordan speed say that before and I've heard some of the great players that I've won the masters and play good there
Starting point is 00:17:43 say the same thing you basically like if I go to the to augusta on a week that's not the masters when the greens are drastically slow and I look at a pot that I've hit before I still see the break and the feel the speed that I hit that one time So it's a lot of memory putting because it is, you know, visually very deceiving. You know, a lot of puts that don't look that fast are very fast. You know, there's a look fast and not that fast. It's a lot of just knowing the grains. It's probably why first-time players don't really win that often because it's so, you know, it's a place that you learn how to play.
Starting point is 00:18:17 Was it weird in November being that it was a little slower, a little softer, all that stuff, and all of a sudden you're hitting these puss that you've hit for a few years now, but it's completely different speed and break? Yeah. I mean, for people that have played there, two days in a row on the fourth hole, I hit my shot into the middle of the green and the ball stayed on the slope. I mean, that's just like 40 feet away. Yeah, it never happened.
Starting point is 00:18:40 To the back right pin, I hit it 30 feet short left, stayed on the slope. Usually, that rolls to 50 feet, which we take because it's an uphill pod. And it stayed on the slope. And I was like, I have no idea what to do. That's crazy. Yeah, some things that happen, they usually don't happen. Yeah, there were balls staying in spots that you do. Never seems to say.
Starting point is 00:18:58 Yeah. Let's go through a little bit of the course, though. Is there any hole at Augusta National that's giving you trouble over the years? Yeah. Or one that maybe doesn't fit your eye when you should think about it? No, it's, you know, difficult T shots for me because they're Pello are 7 and 17 because most of the time I've played this left to right way into a far away the the slopes left or right.
Starting point is 00:19:18 And as a fader of the golf ball, that's a tough one. That's a tough one. And 17's the same way? Yeah, they're paleo. So it's really, it's really hard. Nine is kind of the same way, but you can start it left of it, like over the trees. You have a little bit more room. Seven and 17, you have the trees right next to the T.
Starting point is 00:19:35 And you can't really do that. So it's two of the most important T shots on the course. Because seven of you just put it on the faraway, especially with my length, you have a wedge in to a green to a green to a green. To agree that, you can use the slopes to hit it close to and same with 17. And if you miss the faraway, you're pretty much giving up being able to hit the green and you need to survive for a par. So I would say those two are probably the ones that give me the hard time. We asked Larry Fitzgerald what his favorite hole at Augustin National is, and he said number seven.
Starting point is 00:20:02 And I said why? And he goes, because I drove it one day. I was like, I think you're playing a little different T's than John Rom's playing. Hold on the green? He's playing the member T's. But yeah, he drove it on the green. You should just drive it this year, dude? Just do that.
Starting point is 00:20:12 You should just knock it on the ground. That's what he told us sitting right here in that seat. Hold, he must have hit it through the five-year gap between the bunkers. Yeah, well, he said that, I was like, I don't know where you're playing from, but still a good shot. But yeah, you've got to drive it through the little sliver. First of all, if you play with Larry, I'm surprised to hit driver. Let's just start with that.
Starting point is 00:20:31 Really surprised to hit driver. There's no desert at Augusta. True, very true. But is the narrative out of Augusta going is it favors drawers and all this stuff. You're the best drivers in the world, but you fade it all the time. Is that narrative like overblown? You don't find any trouble with like number two or some of the other draw hole, like 13 or whatever, being that you fade the ball? You hear that a lot, but who's got the most amount of Masters wins?
Starting point is 00:20:54 your point. Jack Wiglis. What did you hit? Fade. I know it's a different golf course, but rule kind of still applies. I mean, Tiger didn't necessarily draw it. Yeah, and honestly,
Starting point is 00:21:06 sometimes the way the holes play, you can still fit a fade on two. I've done it, and Dustin, not seen it, you can still hit it over the corner and fade it back. That's not, it can happen. 13 is the one where I just hit a three
Starting point is 00:21:17 would usually and live it short over the trees through, and that's it. But I think the harder one for fader It's 14 if it's firm. Yeah. Because if you get it going a little right for anybody, actually, that ball just keeps going out to the right. So, yeah, that's a deceivingly hard T-shot.
Starting point is 00:21:33 It's looking like it's going to be a rather warm, nice weather week at Augusta, so it's going to be running. I have yet to experience that, so I don't know. How often are you going down before? How many practice rounds do you play typically? I haven't gone this year. Not once. We just played in November.
Starting point is 00:21:45 It's not like it was that long ago. True. And different condition. Well, and you also have COVID's made it extremely difficult, right? So I did go, before the Masters in November. I haven't gone since. Take us to the first T on Thursday. You've played tons of PGA tour events, tons of majors. Are the nerves on the first T Thursday at the Masters worse than a normal event?
Starting point is 00:22:10 No, but it is something special. That's a thing, right? You know, you have all the patrons literally on the T-box right there. It is always packed, and the way they introduce you is just so you I mean, four please, John Rahm now driving and everybody there just completely goes quiet and then you go. And it's a unique, unique experience. Plus, if you're a little nervous, it's because one could be one of the hardest t-shots on the golf course. And it's like, okay, let's start the right way. It's an important t-shad more than a lot of other opening t-shots. Let's talk about something you kind of touched on just a little bit earlier, but you've been a big proponent of you, you don't like green books, green reading books.
Starting point is 00:22:50 Colt hates them, I hate them. We have a lot in common here. We're great talents. We're very handsome men, and we hate green reading books. Do you wish, like, green reading is a skill, right? I mean, that's kind of your argument here. You love the fact, obviously, that Augusta doesn't happen. Do you wish that more PJ tour events
Starting point is 00:23:05 have just said we don't use these things in their outlong? I mean, I just, I mean, you just said it. Being able to read a green and see the line and start the bone online with the right speed and all that, it's all talent and we had this conversation once I think some people are born better potters than others but you can develop this skill
Starting point is 00:23:28 you can develop green rating skills you can develop that feel and the greens push are taking away from the game that's what I feel like it's it's part of what it's always been right and I would say more than us and more than the generation that's playing now ask
Starting point is 00:23:44 the older generations what they think about it I would love to know what would people like Zinger, Faxon, Jack, you know, other people that play before, what they think about it. I mean, you look at a guy Brad Faxon who made, made his money on the putting green. I mean, he wasn't the greatest ball striker in the world. I mean, that's, that was his advantage, was reading greens and being a great putter. And with these books, you take away one of his weapons. Well, it's, you're helping, yeah, I mean, it's, yeah, you're helping a handicap. Yeah, I hate it. It's like lies around the green for short game. Like, you, this was going to come out dead. This one's
Starting point is 00:24:16 going to come out hot. Like, there's a skill to that, and you get it from hitting millions and millions of chips over your life and then you have that skill and if someone came over and was like I mean it's not quite the same but came over and was like oh that's going to come out really hot that's that's useful to know to me the greens books it's almost like if you compare it you just said it it's like oh statistically I'm not as good a chipper it's cold so I get to place my ball in a good you can't because you're good but I get to place it because I'm not as good or oh you don't hit it as far as as we do so we're just going to let you go one two books out that's just not it's not how it's not how to do it's not how much
Starting point is 00:24:49 how it goes, right? So I think each one has their own skills and talents and you develop what you want and you do what you want with it. But I don't think Greensbook should be a thing. I just get them out. Yes. Do you think you have a bigger advantage at Augusta being that there are no green books as opposed to other places on the Greens? Think about who always putts good at Augusta. Jordan. Jordan. Who else? I haven't played there yet. I like potting there obviously. Patrick Reed. Yeah. Phil. If you start thinking about all this great potters, most of them, a lot of them feel putters, that will use the greens book when they need to,
Starting point is 00:25:23 but you get there, you forget about it, right? You just don't think, and you use your feel and all these great people start making everything. It's crazy. See, I feel like, for me, like, if I'm looking at the greens book, and I mean, you feel, you're a field putter as well. I mean, you look at the line, you think it's right edge, okay, you're from 10 feet.
Starting point is 00:25:39 Then you pull up the greens book, and it says it's going the other way. Like, that would mess with my head and drive me crazy. I don't use them. Well, I know, I'm just saying if you did it, though. Yeah, that's why he goes. How do you hit a good put then after that? You're like, okay, I think it's going left. This book says it's going right.
Starting point is 00:25:51 Who's right? I mean. See, so my caddy buys them for the maybe once every three tournaments. I ask him to read a put. And he needs to because obviously he's not looking at everything, and he might help him out. But I just, I don't think it would help me, but I just don't think it's good for the game.
Starting point is 00:26:08 You know how much those green books cost too, Sleesh? I bet they can charge whatever they want. What are they? $150. You reimburse him for that? Like a discount. I'm just kidding. He's doing just fine.
Starting point is 00:26:17 If you went out there and made your own, If you want to go around. He gets it for himself, though. Yeah. He hasn't asked. I would have asked. Oh, well, you better hope you don't listen to this. He's probably $1.50 to his check each week.
Starting point is 00:26:27 He's probably just fine. But I feel like if you went out there and you wanted to make your own. It's a work expense. Yeah. There's a right off. It's a right off. It's a right. Sorry, I got you all three times.
Starting point is 00:26:36 No, you're fine. I was saying if I, if you want to go out there and make your own and be like, okay, when I'm the pins over here and I'm here, this pup breaks more to the left than I think or something like, I'd be okay with that. I'd be okay with that. But having these top hockey people come in or whatever it's called and chart up back this is two degrees. This is three degrees and all that's I think that's bullshit. So I'm perfectly fine with because I did it in college, right?
Starting point is 00:26:56 And your home event when you know where the pins are going to be. I basically pot it and wrote down the brakes. Yeah. Right. I'm perfectly fine with you doing your own job. Not somebody coming in with some machine and telling you exactly how it's going to go. You can spend whatever time you want doing that and riding down. That's what I'm sure Phil is done.
Starting point is 00:27:12 That's what I'm sure Tiger's done. If they haven't done it is because they remember. but they've done it. A lot of people have done it, and the advantage of being on the Masters more years than others that should be to your advantage, right? That's, that's, or any other event, where that matter. It's, if you want to go ahead and do your homework
Starting point is 00:27:29 and put to every single pen and put a line or how it's going to break somewhat, go ahead. But just the whole thing that is given to you and anybody can go and take it, because you can't access it in amateur games, right? It's only once you turn pro. I just, I don't.
Starting point is 00:27:45 I got a normal thing. argument with someone on Twitter one day about this Greens book thing and they brought up the yardage book they're like we should have to ban yardage books looking at a target and seeing how far it is should be a skill as well I'm like that is not even close to the same thing yeah that is ridiculous uh I mean listen if you have that talent good for you that'll be amazing it would be come on but the yardage book's just telling you how far something is it's not telling you where to hit it yeah it's not giving you the cheat code yeah it's like the bunker's 285 yards to the front 300 to cover yeah that's not telling you you should have three order hey it's going to bounce left
Starting point is 00:28:14 when it gets up there or anything like that. It's just... Yeah. Yeah, and there's an infinite amount of places you can play from T to Green. There's one place that every ball's got to go, and that's in the hole. Yeah, I mean, I think it's also the appearance of aim point,
Starting point is 00:28:26 obviously led to a lot of this, right? Having the percentage and the whole thing is going to help you out, which I still don't know how they do that at Augusta when you have one of those... When you're putting sideways or nine, where you just go like this? Nine fingers.
Starting point is 00:28:39 You go like that, right? Okay, there you go. You can't even see the holes. It's all covered up. Yeah, it amazes me. You're a field player with, everything. Are you, are you, are you, what, give us, give the listeners that look into like, your lessons. Do you take any? How often do you take? Putting? No, full swing
Starting point is 00:28:53 putting, whatever, anything. I haven't changed my swing mechanics in so long. Probably going on close to 10 years now or more, actually more than that. So that it's always one of like three things. Oh, perfect. Yeah, I was going to ask what, when something gets off, what is it? I, so it can be, a lot of times what happens is if I explain it, I don't load. my right head properly which makes my hands to go out and too much of a boat wrist it gets too late off and I start towing and going left right I just can't move properly a lot of times my weight gets a little bit on my heels and pretty much the same thing that's nice to know that only three things can go wrong yeah well
Starting point is 00:29:32 which is one of the reasons why I'm consistent is because on the golf course I can assess myself if I miss three in a row left I'm like okay something's up and I can kind of figure it out to where I manage and I'm not gonna you know the something days are bad and they're bad just not feeling good but I can try to manage around the golf and at least try to predict what I'm going to do sure and I feel like that's old school too like guys back in the day didn't have as much swinging instruction they have all the video and the camera and they could self-correcting around better because I know hey I got these three things I do nowadays guys get going both ways on the course I'm like got to get to the range got to get my guy got to get some camera and do all that
Starting point is 00:30:07 stuff well I usually if I play really bad I don't even want to go to the range if you play bad you don't go the range oh I usually hardly ever go back to the range after a round, tournament round, just because I don't know, I'm not used to it. If I'm playing good, I'll just keep the good vibes and go home and rest. I always prioritize rest for a long career. That's where I am. If I feel like I'm close to figuring something out, I will, and maybe hit 20 balls. Like, I don't go and hit another 100.
Starting point is 00:30:35 You know, I won't do that. So it's just, I rarely go practice after a round of golf. Very interesting. Well, we all three had that in common. Yep, no practice. Where's the range? Don't care. I got to ask you this.
Starting point is 00:30:46 I will before, though. That's a thing. I'll try to do it before. I got to ask you this, because Spain has an incredible history at the Masters. I mean, five green jackets. Yeah, Jose Marie, Sevi, and Sergio.
Starting point is 00:30:56 How big is the Masters over in Spain? Like, when Sergio won, like, how big a deal was that over there? I wasn't there, so I can't tell you. Well, you should... You talk to people over there. It's a huge thing, especially because it was, what, Sergio won in 17? 17.
Starting point is 00:31:12 18 years since the last one. And especially being Sergio, was he's what, 74th attempt at a major with how close he came so many times. I think it was a big sign of relief for the whole country. It was a great moment for him and for all of us just because especially being the master's. I think everybody would have loved to be something
Starting point is 00:31:33 that Spain hasn't won yet, but to continue that tradition on Sevi's birthday. Yeah, that's great. Because he won on Sevi's birthday, you know something had to happen that day, right? It was unique, and it is an important event. it is big. That's so good.
Starting point is 00:31:47 I still think as Europeans, though, the open has a big impact in everybody. I think the open is much bigger there than it is here. I mean, I think rightfully so it should be. Yeah, of course. Have you ever sat down with Jose Maria or Sergio and, you know, picked their brain about Augusta? Of course. What they say? What are the secrets?
Starting point is 00:32:05 You should get one of these green jackets. Shoot the lowest. No, all he did tell me this once, I was playing with him. And because all they show you at Augusta is all the flop shots and all the things people do, right? this and that so i'm like out there trying to do all these things and it's like you know john you can actually do a lot of things just bumping it and going low and i was like huh you know it's like well he's won't hear twice right i mean he might know something a couple things and i started trying to see in it that way and it is true i mean a lot of times you're better off bumping it it was built as a selink
Starting point is 00:32:36 style golf course so it does make sense that a lot of times you can use the contours and skip it and be able to keep it low and use the spin or not spin to be able to hit some shots. Is that the thing you've learned the most? Like people say, you know, rookies tend to not do well there. You get better as you play the place more often. Is that the thing you've learned, is everything you've learned about Augusta playing the four events that you have all like around the greens, more or less? I think that T20, is it 27?
Starting point is 00:33:00 T27, your first year. I think that's worse than I really played because I finished like bogey triple or something like that. Oh, I remember that, yeah, yeah. I was gassed out. I play so much golf right before that because I wasn't into the Masters or anything like that. But I was tired at that point. And I played better than it reflects.
Starting point is 00:33:16 I was top 15 for the better part of a tournament with a chance of top 10 in my first attempt, which was pretty good. I mean, I was happy with it. I think this was before I had to pay up my bet with Phil when you finished 27 because I don't think I was too disappointed when you tripled the last. No, you weren't. I don't think you were top 10 in the world yet. Yeah. I grgged the top 10 in Colonial.
Starting point is 00:33:37 Yep, that colonial. Yeah. So Augusta, when it had to happen in Texas. That's a lot of points. That's happening in Texas. That was just perfect. You should give me a little bit of that money back. Me?
Starting point is 00:33:47 Or him? You're rich. Well, so is he. So is the other guy. But he ain't going to give it back. Well, I mean, I had no part to that. God. That was your choice.
Starting point is 00:33:56 You didn't even know what's going on, did you? No. But Phil had told me, he did tell me that what he told you. He did tell me, John. I said, right now, you're a top ten play in the world. You tell that to a college kid, I'm like, man, he's lying. Well, he lies and he's wrong a lot. I'm like, he's, you get, he's never wrong.
Starting point is 00:34:13 It's like, you're just trying to get my, you know, my confidence up going to conference or something like that. Yeah. Take care of it. Hey, it's not like I'm lacking confidence, but I'm like, yeah, whatever. I mean, not that I didn't believe so myself, but I was like, he's just trying to be nice. Yeah, that's one of the few times. And he was right, which is also a comic game with Phil. It was two years, right?
Starting point is 00:34:35 Rarely. If you just held off for a little longer, we would have been fine. We're not going to get into it. I'm still upset about it. I'm having to do this podcast to get back to even. You got a few more to go. Let's talk some Ryder Cup because it is, do you know it's Rider Cup here? No, are you aware of that?
Starting point is 00:34:51 Dude, it's only in a few months. Thanks for letting me know. Yeah, dude. Appreciate it. It's in the U.S. Had Padrake here and he said you're on his radar. Yeah, I do. You got that going for you.
Starting point is 00:34:59 You got a good chance of making the team. I don't want to put too much pressure on you, but you keep doing what you're doing. You might get out there. All right. But let's do talk Rider Cup because you were on the winning team last time in Paris. Steam rolled all that in front of your home fans. Now it's coming back over here. You seem like a guy that thrives on the energy and things like that.
Starting point is 00:35:14 It's part of you looking forward to playing in the States. And we've got a lot of fans here. But for the first time, you might be a guy. They're not rooting against, but they ain't going to be rooting for you. The first time? I mean, you're a guy that you have a lot of fans, dude. Oh, I do. But it's a European in the U.S.
Starting point is 00:35:27 Come on, man. I've heard it all. But I know Ryder Cup is different. So I am looking forward to it. Yeah, of course. It's the one time where we get to feel like we're, you know, athletes from another sport. Like, I can't imagine.
Starting point is 00:35:40 some, you know, with some here and going back to certain stadiums. So I really, I'm looking forward to it, yeah. Can you compare the nerves first T, rider cup, like first T at Masters? You can't. It's just not even close. No, it's uncomparable. You can't. It's not even close to the same thing.
Starting point is 00:35:58 Like, is it to the point where, like, you struggle to tee your ball up or you're just like, oh, my God, how am I going to hit this golf ball? Well, given the fact that I had a, you know, we were playing in pairs, which is not the easiest opening T-shot. Yeah, he had like a 400. Oh, no, it was 8 a.m. And he was freezing. I had three wood in hand.
Starting point is 00:36:14 Okay. Yeah, it was cold. That's even worse. Well, no. Top glow. I was splitting in one of spinny fates. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:21 A little knacker out there? No, I did. I just tried to get the crowd out of like it was the 16th in Scotts Hill. Mm. Because I was like, I don't want to hear crickets. Like, I won't just get the noise going. So I forget about what's going on inside. And that's kind of what I did.
Starting point is 00:36:36 Well, what are you going to do with whistling straights? Because if you tell them to get loud, they're just going to be quiet. Yeah, it's you're in hostile territory. Just go and do it. You know what to expect. How about to get loud for you? We need to come up with some songs for the first season. European.
Starting point is 00:36:49 I mean, if. Now, the one thing is, this might be the one year where we'll have very little representation on the writer cap because of COVID. I don't know how many people will be able to come and how many people will actually be able attend. So we'll see how it goes. I'm hoping we can get full numbers, but if we can't. I mean by September.
Starting point is 00:37:07 Yeah, hopefully. It's just how many Europeans are going to be able to come? That's a thing, right? Oh, yeah. Yeah, with quarantine and all that. So that's heavy. All Americans. All my God.
Starting point is 00:37:15 Red, white and blue for days. So there might be, like you said, no noise. If I try to get anybody going. We can be bought. I'm just saying, you can have two European team. I'll all lay the shit out of you if you want to. Somebody will end up coming. You give me that 10 grand.
Starting point is 00:37:29 There's going to be some dudes in blue dressed up out there. I'll give you another thing that's going to fluff your comment. It's kind of the way Phil did. But like, like Colt said, Roger Captain, Roger Carrington in here recently. We asked them if Team Europe had a 10, footer with the rider cup on the line win or lose who do you want hitting it who do you think you said i mean it seems like an obvious answer victor Perez agreed Ian pulpin on
Starting point is 00:37:51 honestly bro which leads us to believe you might make the squat I'll take it that's a got that's a pretty big feather in the cap but it's you have an opportunity right uh I'd rather be the one who's putting than the one watching because you have the opportunity to be the one who makes the pot. I'd rather be a Martin Kimer. And I said at the time... But then you could also be Bernhard. That's all right? Yeah, that's a... Not everybody... I feel like old 12 people in that team will be looking forward to that responsibility.
Starting point is 00:38:21 Do you think so? Do you think that's the case? Because I said when he said that I said, I think John is one of... I didn't mention Europe specifically, but one of the few people who, like, really want that big, big stage, the ultimate moment, do or die, all that. And I think you do it. I don't know that that's true for everyone to go off. I think that separates the great players from the good... I completely agree, but I think there's lot of guys that would gladly be on the sideline like, thank God I don't have this put. You would be able to have to say, even before you hit the putt that you experienced something that maybe, how many people have that have had that in their hands?
Starting point is 00:38:51 Handful, maybe. Right? So you've gone through an experience that how many people have had. And if you make it, you're definitely going through a feeling that nobody has gone through. Right. So, right? It's like, I mean, having an extra point to win the Super Bowl. Do you want it or not?
Starting point is 00:39:04 Yeah, of course you want it. It's a tough situation. I mean, you look what happened with Hunter Mayhan. over at Glen Eagles against Graham McDow I mean that that's ruined him for quite a while yeah I can stay with you for a long time but it's it can but
Starting point is 00:39:16 yeah I like the fact that you're like yeah I want that yeah I've always wanted to add the last part that's cool but I think that's what makes you different than a lot I think there's a lot of guys they might say that in real life say that in front of a microphone but in real life they'd be like no I don't like they'd be more than happy being on the sidelines yeah I mean it but you ain't one of them
Starting point is 00:39:35 yeah it's just yeah I mean you you get it you make it or you don't make it but you have the opportunity which is the most incredible thing with that new odyssey putter you're probably definitely gonna roll it right in yeah exactly you slid into that thing quick too i remember when we were playing a while back you just made the switch you had a long time to put the putter in the bag and you said it might take a while and then a couple weeks later you were right let's talk about you through a couple though i went through a few you did yeah let's talk about the equipment change all right yeah yeah because i mean that was a that was big news when you figure somebody wants to yeah i mean you you came out 2021 you got the callaway flat bill on
Starting point is 00:40:08 which you're not wearing anymore. I got that. It didn't fit very well. Yeah, we noticed. So he's got a large don't too. Well, they didn't have the, they didn't have the new Maverick hats in Hawaii.
Starting point is 00:40:22 Yeah, Caput. So that's why I had the flat bill. And then after that, they have the ones I liked. But how's the transition been? Pretty easy? Easier than I thought. I'm not going to lie,
Starting point is 00:40:31 fully honest, and I've told Calaway this, I've told everybody around me. I was expecting to struggle for a little bit. Really? Like, expecting to struggle. You're doing 14 clubs and a ball, man. It's a big deal.
Starting point is 00:40:40 Yes. And it kind of reversed. I thought the driver was going to be hard to transition into and it wasn't. I thought the putter was going to be easy to transition into and it wasn't. I thought the ball was going to be a lot harder to get used to and it wasn't. So it was a bit different to what I was expecting, right? The one thing, I did play Callaway Irons in college. I had two balls for about 13 years in my life.
Starting point is 00:41:03 So I had certain experience. So it wasn't overall as difficult as I. I thought it was never. I'm very happy with it. Did you do it? It looked like you did it all at well. I mean, you came out there one day and we played everything in there. Was there any hesitate? Rory did this a while back after going from Nike and he was like in hindsight, I might not should have done 14 at once and said, okay, let's get the ball dialed and then we got that figured and I'll go to the irons, but you just did it all at once. So I had the opportunity. All I had to play this year was the ball. And I think they had, Calloway had the confidence
Starting point is 00:41:35 on their staff and their equipment that they're going to figure it out. If you put the pressure on me, like you have to play all 14, it might have not gone as well. But since I'm doing it willingly, I was like, you know, I think it was a lot easier. Plus, when I did it, it was right after the Masters. I already given the news to tell themade and Calloway what was going on. I came home, rested one day and went straight to San Diego and spend four days,
Starting point is 00:42:00 day and night getting things fitted. I mean, the amount of bowls ahead, and then when I came back, The amount of time I put to get used to it was more than I've ever really done. I basically didn't have an off-season because I was getting ready for it. So it's not only the fact that it was good equipment is the pat that I put in so much work to be able to play with it. And even then, I still had a couple things to adjust, but I think that's why I played so good. And I put in the time to be able to get used to it. That's what's crazy.
Starting point is 00:42:25 You spent four days at Calaway, then you come home and do it. And the listeners at home go to whatever golf store they are and hit a few into a simulator. They're like, oh, this thing's the best thing I'll take it. Throw it back tomorrow. The crazy thing, this gave me a little confidence. After those four days, I come back home, go to play with my bodies, shoot 59. I'm glad I wasn't there. I would have lost a lot.
Starting point is 00:42:43 14 clubs and a ball. First time I'm on the course with everything, shoot 59. I was like, well, this works, right? So it's got a fine-tuned. But yeah, it was... That's crazy. Yeah, that's a pretty good transition. One for one, 59, no big deal.
Starting point is 00:42:56 I'll try the new shit. Oh, yeah, 59? Yeah, and then... You want to shoot 59ers? Yeah, dude. The guys are kind of pretty happy, obviously. Since then, I mean, we just tweaked the driver, tweaked the two iron, and the putter.
Starting point is 00:43:07 The putter was been the hardest thing. Yeah, okay, that's a good question. So before, were you a guy that tweaked much throughout the season? No, once it's said, I don't like to change anything. Okay, so now, still not much tweaking since you got on? A lot of it is early on, and the hardest thing is, you're here in Arizona, weather's perfect. There's hardly ever any win except today, right?
Starting point is 00:43:26 And the ball flights relatively straight. So it's easier to get fitted here, and then my first tournament is Hawaii. Why? Right? So it's like it's hard to gauge what's going on. So you need a couple rounds. And then you have Tori.
Starting point is 00:43:38 And after Tori was able to figure something down. Yeah. That's a, I mean, yeah, because you put a new ball in play. And you're playing out here, no win, nothing. You go over there and you know how the old ball is going to react to a 20-mile-air win. That first time. That's exactly when I said, when I'm saying, I didn't expect to play good. I did not expect to play.
Starting point is 00:43:53 I was expected to hit good shots and certain things happened. And I did have some moments that weren't that good. But I still was getting top tens, which, hey, I mean, clearly, you know, I wasn't too far away. Winning's hard. And you're not a guy that tinker's like based on course setup, right? You got your 14 gamers and you go, you're not like, oh, maybe I'll put a 5 wood in or maybe a driving iron or whatever.
Starting point is 00:44:11 I have a 5 wood and a driving iron, and it depends on the week I'll play. Throughout most of the West Coast swing, I'm going with a five wood. What about it, Augusta? Most likely 5 wood. It all depends. Sometimes there's certain win conditions, part 3 is, you know, you might need the 2 iron. We'll go to the 2 iron. But if you think, it's usually like, I might need it on 2, I might need it on 8,
Starting point is 00:44:32 I might need it in 15. You might have a certain, certain holes. So that's what we go with. That's cool. That's it. Well, you obviously been here before. You know what's coming next. It's emergency nine,
Starting point is 00:44:41 but this is a special master's edition. So it's not going to be anything like it was where this is all master's related because this is our master's special for golf subpar. Oh, well, thank you for choosing me. So we're going to have a little trivia. We have a little trivia in here as well. Oh,
Starting point is 00:44:55 trivia, okay. Trivia and some other. It's a rapid fire or? Yeah, you can think. You can elaborate if you want. Look it up on your phone.
Starting point is 00:45:02 phone but yeah you can go to it oh I can't cheat okay all right Horton Smith won the first masters in 1934 remember watching it oh yeah you were negative 70 go how much did he win and what was the total purse oh 1934 doing quick inflation well I like I know the stories of like jack's first check being like 70 dollars right so I can only imagine I actually have no idea okay um let's say total purse I'm clueless I'm so clueless I'm so clueless It is tough. I'll say total purse is just in the thousands, somewhere in the thousands. 5,000 total purse.
Starting point is 00:45:41 Not a bad event on the jickey. I was going to say 4,000, by the way. It's in the thousands. I mean, was the winner still getting 18%. Close. Really? No, not really. He got 1,500 bucks for winning.
Starting point is 00:45:53 That's pretty good. Yeah. Yeah. 1,500. Not a bad week's work. Yeah, I got 30%. Almost 400 a year a day. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:46:00 Yeah, I mean, I mean, I mean, I think it sounds like a nice jickey jack. dude. It's the first two. I don't know. Oh yeah. It's incredible. All right. I got you I got your one here. This is my only trivia one, but you made an ace on 16 last November, skipping it across the water on 16, right? Can you name the other two players who have done that Vijay C and Martin Kheimer. Okay good. You're one and one. Yep, good job. Good, good job. I've seen those before. Did you know that prior to you making it? Yeah. Okay. I've seen both videos before. Mine kind of singed anti-climatic compared to that. Nobody there. That was how I mean that place would
Starting point is 00:46:32 Ruff. So the only people was And then you make another one You made like a stay or whatever Two and two days So both days I was playing with Riki The day before I did it on four Yeah
Starting point is 00:46:40 And then the next day with Riki again I'm 16 like that What are you thinking at that point? Yeah exactly I was like I hope we're paired together Dude like What are you thinking at that point Like this is my week
Starting point is 00:46:48 Or I'm using all my shit up On the practice round I'm thinking about it too much It was my birthday I was happy Yeah 26th Birthday gift Right
Starting point is 00:46:56 Every birthday dude I love that All right Augusta National is famous for their Pimento cheese sandwiches. First, have you had one? No. Wow, that seems sacrilege. Okay.
Starting point is 00:47:06 That seems sacrilege for... Maybe you just take a bite, and it's kind of history. I honestly haven't, like, well, I haven't seen, like... Your chef doesn't cook you up a little something when you're in the house? No, I mean, the players launching all that is not like they have it everywhere, right? I feel like, I just... I mean, I could ask. They'd bring you one.
Starting point is 00:47:23 No, I could ask for it. I just haven't. Maybe slide one of those down. I was told once it was like, if you look at it and see it, it's just, I just, I mean, I just, doesn't look appetizing but then he tastes good i'm like i agree with that i'm like i don't know it's just the thing you got to do it's like going to a football game first time getting a hot dog or something you got to slide one of those down the well this wasn't the question we usually go for the fried chicken yeah okay there you go all right first off you haven't had one second off so another math question
Starting point is 00:47:47 how many pmentos cheese sandwiches could you get for a hundred dollars at augustin national as you math because i know this in the where are you buying it though no at the concession stand at august Yeah, because they still keep the original prices, right? Yeah. Like the whole thing is... Yeah, nothing's changed over the year. 30 bucks, something like that, yeah. I said 100.
Starting point is 00:48:08 100 sandwiches. Sorry, how many sandwiches? How many sandwiches could you get? Sorry, how many sandwiches you get for $100? They just confuse me. I know, I confused myself. Yeah. Still blown away young, had one.
Starting point is 00:48:21 No, I know, I know. It's got to be, I mean, I'll say that it isn't a dollar, especially when they started. $200? No, they're $1.50 each. You can get $66. There were $1.50 back then? I don't know. That's what they are now.
Starting point is 00:48:34 You show up with a hunch, though. I don't know. I think you can order the whole menu for like less than 100. You can order the whole menu for less than 100. Yeah, it is. You can eat until your stomach bursts for $100 and drink. See, I mean, I don't go to the concession stand. You haven't slid into the patron section and wash it?
Starting point is 00:48:50 I'll get you on this. Well, I have good, you know, going off my line of the tea and going to certain places. Near the concession. Never near the concession. You get a pimento cheese sandwich and a beer for $6.50. Bring 10 bucks with you next thing. Better than we go to a baseball game. Two beers and nachos were like 45.
Starting point is 00:49:04 Yeah. Yeah. Pretty good deal. Slightly different. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Then you go over the merchandise section.
Starting point is 00:49:09 You might want to bring a little bit more money. All right. Here we go. Next question. No par three contest this year. We talked about that. But assuming there was, okay? No part three champion has ever gone on to win the masters that week.
Starting point is 00:49:19 If you were leading the par three tournament going into the ninth hole and you need a par to win, would you tank or would you win? Tank 100%. 100. 100. I would too. I would want to challenge history. I don't even put my,
Starting point is 00:49:30 myself in that situation what I do is I just try to make hole in once and then Kelly puts and that's what we go all the way around oh yeah so if you don't make it on the first hole she puts and you're to be cute anyway oh shit I mean everybody everybody's catty puts perfect so like I dad she starts making so that once I hit to six feet yeah you can put honey go ahead yeah I just the line the putter she's made a few but yeah no if I don't make a hole in one I just you can put say hey babe relax with the I just go there for the for the glassware like if you get the closest to the hole and you they get the little jars and things like that I don't
Starting point is 00:50:00 go for the win. I do know closest to ever win both it was Ray Floyd when Faldo beat him on the playoffs. I'm glad you got that right. You just want to challenge history. You just want to challenge history at that point. Ray Floyd was the closest. I wonder if he was thinking about it. Patrick Harrington told us he tried to win every time.
Starting point is 00:50:17 Yeah, he was trying to break the record. He was trying to do it. I think people would want a few times, right? Does he? Who else has won? I think has Luke Donald wanted? I don't know. I thought Patrick won a couple of Part 3. He may. I said he was trying to win.
Starting point is 00:50:29 I think half the feel. still ain't trying to win it. Plus, maybe. Yeah, you don't want to risk that. You go for fun, yeah. All right. You got to think about this one. Go with a little one next time. You're the master's champion. You come back the next year. You're a defending champion. You got the dinner.
Starting point is 00:50:44 You got everything. But the tradition is you have to put the green jacket on whoever wins. You're not going to win this year. You're not going to repeat. You can pick any player to put the jacket on. Who would it be? I would say a fellow Spaniard. Well, I need a name. Well, it's disappointing. You're on Ratha? Whatever makes it.
Starting point is 00:51:05 Sergio? So both Sergio and Raffar-Den. We're trying to see he liked the best. If both Sergio and Raffar then is just the three of us, Sergio has one one. I would love to put it on Raffa and be another Spanish player to win the Masters. Beautiful. That's not a hard of a question.
Starting point is 00:51:17 I'm a little insulted by that, being that I'm former world number one, we didn't even talk about that. Oh, hold on. Yeah, yeah. I'm sure you'll bring that out. One B, right? That's all it takes, dude. You know, I'm a very.
Starting point is 00:51:30 selective player only play a couple events a year you would beat number world number one you slide into this one spot that's the whole deal all right here we go you get one mulligan in your master's career up to this point where would you take it one molligan mm-hmm uh oh 2018 15th hole right walk us through it so i just made birdie on 13 14 i think i got to 12 under par and p. read which had 14 or 15 under um and i'm on the right right semi-rough to that middle pin like the one in the middle of the grain and I have a six iron because it usually comes out hot out of there and the wind's gust in a little bit and I'm aiming to the right half of the green Ricky just hit it to 40 feet right and I'm like it's a lot of hey listen
Starting point is 00:52:13 I need to go hard at this one regardless so I'm going to aim there if I pull it it should cover and I ever so slightly pulled it but I didn't pull it like compressible it was just thin and he landed on the last it was right on line with the pin on the last inch of the slope and then bounced up and then trickle back down into the water. So if that ball carries a foot, I have 15 feet straight out for ego, but it didn't. So if I were to do it again, just make sure I'm not making a bogey. That would have been. If I make a part, even Ricky after that, he birded there, part 16 and birded 18 and ended up being one back.
Starting point is 00:52:49 But, you know, it would have been. If I make birdie, I get to 13 under like he was, you never know. Yeah, and you're rolling with three holes in play. There you go. Cweet. All right. I could also say the Eagle Putt on 13 from like 10 feet. that I left short somehow.
Starting point is 00:53:03 Don't leave it short. Hey, if you have that butt this week, if I had a greensbook, if I had a greensbook, I would have known he goes. Memory. It's lower. If I had a Greensburg,
Starting point is 00:53:14 I would have known he goes slightly up at the end. But I didn't. All right, anyways, next trivia. Next trivia question. What is longer? Magnolia, Magnolia Lane or Bryson Deschambo's average T-shot on the PGA tour this year?
Starting point is 00:53:28 What do I know? What's his average T-shot? That you shouldn't be, guess. I don't even know how long Magnolia Lane is. Well, see, that's... Oh, I'll make it a very tough question. Hold on, no, it's Bryson's T-Shatch. No, it's for not.
Starting point is 00:53:40 Bryson's averaging 320.8 off the T. Magnolia Lane is 330 yards long. God, I'm going based on the old range. Oh. But that McNuiland does start on the road, technically, right? Or it does it start with the tree start. The Internet told me it's 330 yards. That's the start on...
Starting point is 00:53:56 I haven't been there, John. Does it start on Washington Road or that's to start on the trees? We're just going to say you're wrong. the internet I'm wondering I'm just wondering I don't know where they start either that's hey if I can sneak on to Magnolia Lane this I'll walk it off for you measure that yes precisely walk it up yeah laser not gonna run it's not allowed yeah we figure laser it yeah laser it well I guess he goes all the way to the clubhouse so yeah it makes sense okay I'm surprised it's only that that's that short okay it feels
Starting point is 00:54:21 longer which is great yeah it feels like the pictures make it look so one time you're driving like one mile an hour like it's just just soaking it in yeah can you see any of the holes when you're driving in? No, so you see the old range. And then to the left is probably the greatest short game facility ever. It's not used. It's not used. No, it's the old chipping green, right?
Starting point is 00:54:40 So, and you drive Maniland in the middle, you have the old range there to the right. And the left, at the end, it's the green. But then everything till the road is perfect far away. So you have a green where you could hit a shot from basically the edge of the green all the way till about 200 yards. That's what Ricky Barnes probably ran across on his way. That's where he's hopped the fence. Jumped. The popo chase him.
Starting point is 00:55:01 I guess the police chasing his ass. All right. Next question, John. Do you think if you and Kelly have baby number two that you could maybe plan to have it at the end of September, 2023? Perhaps, perhaps say between the dates of September 29th and October 1st. This one wasn't, we weren't thinking about when it was newborn, right? I mean, she was like the usual. He was playing.
Starting point is 00:55:25 It was like, it usually takes a while. right yeah there's a lot of stars that yeah and we were in summer we were doing it was right after quarantine we agreed and it happened when it happened i mean when she told me it was after i found out the pGA we found out she was pregnant and then she started doing the numbers and crunching it's like i'm doing april 12th i'm like oh oh hope what was i doing yeah but it's uh it happens yeah no no i mean It's not to guys that are top of three in the world. No, I'm just playing around Rider Cup. I was going to say, maybe September 23, that's like a good time now.
Starting point is 00:56:02 You know what I was, I was really happy about it because it's nowhere close to anybody's, anybody family birthdays. Like, nobody in her family or my family is, I got a birthday in April, which works out. Just think, though, in the future, you're going to win one on your son's birthday, perhaps. Maybe. That's a great thing. Double special. I think Sergio's boy, Enzo, is April 10th. There you go, double special.
Starting point is 00:56:24 You're going to run up and hug you in. All that. If you only had two options to name your baby boy, would it be Colt or Drew? Or Slees. We already has a name. Or Slees. Are you allowed to tell us what it is? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:34 Yeah, yeah. So it's a Basque name from where I come from in the Basque country. It's Keppa. KEPA. Kappa. Kappa. Kappa. Yeah, Keppa.
Starting point is 00:56:43 Pretty sick. Okay. So not Colt or Drew, both also four letters. Also, yeah, a little insulting. Kappa. All right. Middle name? What are we got?
Starting point is 00:56:51 So, following Spanish tradition, you know, in Spain, my name is John Rom. Rodriguez, right? Rum is my dad's last name. Rodriguez is my mom's last name. We don't usually have middle names. So I didn't want Kelly's last name to go to die in that sense. Like, you know, doesn't go. So we agreed for our kids' middle names to be Cahill, which is her last name. So that way, they still have. And with this first one, once she changes, she's going to change, she's going to make her last name or middle name as well once she changes to run because of COVID. It's impossible to get this done. Possible. Her initials in our firstborn's initials would be the same. same. Kepa just became the 2045 Masters
Starting point is 00:57:30 odds, leading odds to win the Masters right now. There's some books in Vegas right now. I'm 24. Yeah, 24. Yeah, 24. I think he'll be ready. That's young. That's good. That's good. Yeah, you'll be ready by then. Taking youngest Spaniard to win it. That would be nice. Yeah, there you go. All right. Last question. All the holes at Augustin National are named after a flower. Do you know that? Yeah. Okay. Which one of the following is a hole at Augusta National? Oh, Paris. Humped bladder wart. I'm hoping you're not saying azaleas.
Starting point is 00:57:57 The hump, repeat that one. Humped flatterwort. These are all flowers. That feels like some you could get at ASU. Yeah. The humped bladderwort. Shagbark, hickory. Cockhole herb.
Starting point is 00:58:08 Another one. Or bleeding heart. They'll sound like drinks. They're like, they're all flowers. Cocktail manual. There you go. You need me to read. Do you need to list them off again?
Starting point is 00:58:18 Dude, I know, I think it's Firethorn. It's 15, I believe. And azalea and I'm out. Like, that's the only two I know. So if you just deviate from that. well you have to guess. The wart. The wart one.
Starting point is 00:58:28 Yeah, that's just stupid. I couldn't believe that was named a flower. I'm in a sorority. This seems like my exam. Like me taking the SATs. I'm my guess. Number two, shag bark hickory. Shag.
Starting point is 00:58:40 Okay. Number three, cock hold herb. Or bleeding heart. I think is it bleeding heart? No, actually none of them are. I'm going to guess bleeding heart too. I was just trying to find ridiculous names of flowers. There are some ridiculous ones out there that I couldn't even
Starting point is 00:58:56 I mean, come on, man. You can't do that. That's just painful. If there was a whole name, Cockold, I guarantee you, I'd remember it. I had a guy that's my favorite old. I did, just because it's Augusta did not want to say that one. I just out of respect. I'll say it.
Starting point is 00:59:09 I'm an idiot. That's a good question. That was a trick question. Trick question. Yeah, you got a trick. Come on. Well, Johnny. Awesome.
Starting point is 00:59:16 Best of luck this week. Go get them. Get that first green jacket. Kill them. Thank you very much. Tell Kelly to hold it for a couple days. I can't tell her that. No, I don't.
Starting point is 00:59:25 I'm not telling her that. That's for sure. Thanks, buddy. Been a blast. Cool. All right. Well, that was John Rom on the master's edition of golf subbar and slees. You know, we filmed this before.
Starting point is 00:59:33 He became a father. He is now officially father, little baby Keppa. I'm very surprised he didn't go with Colt or Slees. But you know what? Kepa? Solid strong name. Kepa Ram. Like I said, I think he's probably the betting favorite now in 2045 for Augusta.
Starting point is 00:59:48 He is going to be a talent. But, you know, it was interesting talking with him because he was adamant about the fact that, hey, if this call comes while I'm down here, like, there's no question. I'm out of here. I'm going home. I'm going to see this thing. To have this happen before and Kelly, Kelly come early with the baby. Got to be a, a, he gets to be there for sure for the birth of his child, which is paramount. And B, now that's like out of the, out of his mind. If he had gone down there and let's say Kelly hadn't had the baby till after the masters, there's no way you can be down there as a guy that's been going to become a first time father and not have that in the back of your mind. Like, all right, what if it's Saturday afternoon and you're thinking, you know, you're playing well, I'm even going to get to be here tomorrow and things like that.
Starting point is 01:00:23 So I think it's a huge deal for John. I know he's had some long nights and talking with him leading up to this deal. But I know that when he steps on the ground at Augusta, his mind will be cleared and that adrenaline kicks in. I think it's a huge thing for him in terms of just going in the week with a clear conscience. Yeah, I agree. I was actually probably going to fade him a little bit heading into this week with him having so much going on in his mind. But now I think this clears the mind a little bit. John Rom could definitely be a big time factor at the Masters in 2021.
Starting point is 01:00:51 But it was so cool to talk to him. just talk about the emotions of going down Magnolia Lane and every time he does it. You know, I mean, he gets the goosebumps and it's just so cool to him teeing off the first hole at the Masters, how special that is. It's a special place and a special week. And I would not be one bit surprised if we see him in a green jacket sometime in the near future. Yeah, having a baby can completely change your perspective on everything. I know golf is everything for these guys and it's their job, but as soon as you have a little baby, things change a little bit. So that could play a factor this week. I thought it was really interesting talking to him about,
Starting point is 01:01:20 you know, he's one of the best drivers in the world. but he likes to play a fade. He says that right to left stuff, at least for him, overblown. There's not really many t-shots out there that give him an issue being that he does like to work the ball left or right. And I really love his comments on the green books, being that Augusta doesn't have any, we all seem to align on our philosophy there. I hate them, you hate them. John hates them. Here's a place where they don't have them. And now I feel like that's why you see the best putters thrive at Augusta National, A, because there's some of the hardest greens in the world. But B, there's no cheat sheet. You got to go out there and figure it out. And the more you play it, the more you learn. and that's where John's getting into right now.
Starting point is 01:01:51 But I was kind of with you going into the week if the baby hadn't arrived. I was like, I don't know about John, even though I like him at this place. Now that this happened, it's all systems go for Johnny. And I'm thrilled for him for that. Yep, I can't wait to see what he does around Augusta National. Listen, if he's got us, if he's around the lead coming to 18, that fade sets up pretty well out of that shoot at 18 at Augusta National. So if he can just be in the hunt with a couple to go, I like his chances.
Starting point is 01:02:18 but congratulations to him and Kelly on the birth of baby Kepa. That's really, really cool. But, ladies, we've got to get to our gambling part of the show. This is a big week, major week, massive purse. You know, we don't really multiply anything for the majors, but it's still a huge week. And after last week at the Valero, Texas Open, we're having some solid runs. We've each had three straight top 20s, so pretty good. You actually ended up nudging me out by one shot last week with Corey Connors, finishing tied for 14th.
Starting point is 01:02:45 Ryan Palmer made a little six on the last toll, which I'm not very high. happy about. I'll see him on the range and talk to him about this. End up being tied for 17. But producer Mark, give us a little update on the totals in our one and done contest. So, Sleez, with that T14 from Cory Conners, you brought in just north of $140,000. A lot of hopping Colts, 217, which was good for $105,875, shrinking the lead to $1,840,804. Right there, baby. That's how you do it.
Starting point is 01:03:16 Hey, if you pick the, if you pick the. the winner and I missed the cut you're there exactly to brick by brick that's how we do it here i do have the honor and quite frankly there's about six names if you just threw in a hat and i drew one out i'd be like yeah i like that one uh it's pretty much everybody at the top there's no surprises here one of the biggest tournaments of the year if not the biggest i'm going with a guy who's coming off a monster win in his career i would say the best iron player in the world definitely in that conversation he's going off at 11 to 1 he's finished 39th 22nd 17th 12th and 4th and 4th in his master's career, getting better every single year. I feel like the time is right for him to
Starting point is 01:03:52 Pounce. Justin Thomas, 11 to 1, team slees. Let's freaking go, buddy. Give me back in this thing. That's a good pick. I mean, it's hard to argue with JT around this place. He was a very, very high up on my list. The other guy that's very high on my list, he was, I thought about picking him. I thought he might be a little bit of a dark horse sliding under the radar, but then he went and won the Valero Texas Open last week. And I'm going with a man who has a green jacket, the Golden Child. Jordan Speeith, it's supposed to play fast. It's supposed to play fast. It's supposed to play firm. It's going to be a little harder to hit greens. Whose short game is better than Jordan's feet?
Starting point is 01:04:23 Makes the clutch part. Something about this place. When he steps on the greens, he turns into the artist he is and just puts it from everywhere. So I'm very, very excited for Jordan this week. I'm going with him. I was, when I decided to go away from Justin Thomas at the players, I was kind of sliding him to Augusta. But now it's Jordan's recent form. I'm going to ride my boy and see if we can get another green jacket. He's going to be popular, man. He's going to be popular. JT's going to be popular. Like I said, I think there's about six names. I was going to make sure I didn't align with you. So if you had JT pegged and we're going to we're going to go the same pick, I was ready to audible into somebody else just because I'm down right now. Ties don't do me a lot of good. But man, you're right. Jordan, even coming in in, even coming in, he's still dangerous around that place. He's different. He's different as soon as he steps on that property. And this week coming in, riding the confidence of a win, all that conversation behind him. Now he just gets to put all that to bed and just go play Augusta. I am I'm stoked, dude. I think this could be one of the best. It has a potential.
Starting point is 01:05:18 to be one of the best, most tightly packed leaderboards on a Sunday because so many of the top guys are playing so well right now. I mean, we didn't even just pick DJ who just boat race the field, you know, in November. We didn't pick Bryson, who a lot of people said, Jordan Speed, the guy you just picked, rewind a few months ago. He said, Masters is Bryson's to lose. You know, I mean, there's a lot of guys you could circle this week. And I think we're setting up for an incredible, incredible Masters. Yep, I cannot wait. I am going to be here all weeks, please.
Starting point is 01:05:45 This place is special. my first time on the grounds. I got goosebumps just walking around this place. I can't wait to get out there and I'm going to walk all 18 holes today. Make sure you get your cell phone out, walk around the property, call me periodically, take a lot of pictures and just flash that thing around a bit. That's what they want you to do. They want you to have a good time when you're there.
Starting point is 01:06:04 Exactly. But more importantly, make sure you go to Draft Kings, download the app, get amongst it this weekend, code subpar, set your lineup, try to win that million dollars. It's going to be a lot of fun. Hope everyone enjoys the Masters. And next week's Lee, we have another monster. guest. The man, most famous man in Arizona, arguably. The one of the only, Larry Fitzgerald is in the building with us.
Starting point is 01:06:24 And a man who knows his way around Augusta National a bit, too. Big Larry, we talk football, we talk golf, we get into everything with Larry, one of the best dudes in the world. Hell of a golfer. It's two-time champion at the 18th, Pebble Beach, where he drags Strelman's ass all over that place and carries him to the title. But yeah, he'll be in the building next week. It's going to be a lot of fun with Larry. All right. Three things. Enjoy the Masters. Go get draft kings. Also, go to the golf.com Pro Shop, get all the subpar swag. Look at that. Get amongst you look beautiful.
Starting point is 01:06:52 Everyone have a great week. We'll talk to you on next week's golf subpar.

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