Subpar - Mike Commodore Interview: Following Rickie Fowler at the British Open, Partying with the Stanley Cup

Episode Date: December 22, 2020

On this week's episode of GOLF's Subpar, former NHL defenseman Mike Commodore joins former PGA Tour pro Colt Knost and his close friend and on course rival Drew Stoltz for an exclusive, in-studio, int...erview. The 2006 Stanley Cup Champion talks the different kinds of parties he attended with the Cup, following Rickie Fowler around Carnoustie during the 2018 British Open, and his incredible experiences as an Uber driver.

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Starting point is 00:00:11 Hello world, welcome to another week of Golf Subpar, Colt Nost and Drew Stoltz. Slees, do we have an episode for the people today? Oh boy. Buckle up, folks. This is one. We've been waiting on getting a commie in here, Mike Commodore. And this is a certified banger, I would say. We've had some great shows throughout the year, some unbelievable interviews.
Starting point is 00:00:30 This one in terms of, like, funny level. This is a different level. I don't think I've ever laughed harder during an episode. We love all of our guests. They're all very entertaining. But this one just brought it to a whole other level. There were parts where I was just looking at you and you were giggling and I was giggling. I was like, we don't have to say, we're not even saying anything.
Starting point is 00:00:44 We just give another question and tell another story. I mean, the man knows how to go. I legit had tears. Yeah. I was laughing so hard. This is, I don't think we're overselling it. This one is funny. Nope, but we're going to get to that here in a little bit.
Starting point is 00:00:55 But first, we got to touch on the PNC championship. Justin Thomas, our guy and his dad, Mike Thomas win the tournament. But let me tell you, Charlie Woods stole the show. Not Tiger Woods. Charlie Woods stole the show. Yeah, you would know that they won it. There was like one tweet. Congratulations to our champion.
Starting point is 00:01:10 Then 79 tweets about Tiger and Charlie playing this week. Dude, we talked a lot about it on radio. I'd never seen Charlie swing it really other than little clips. Not that he's only really, really good as an 11-year-old, but being really good in front of cameras on national television for the first time is a totally different thing. Yeah, and they had like 200, 250 people out there, and they were all following Tiger and Charlie. I mean, Charlie 11 years old, the youngest player to ever play in the PNC,
Starting point is 00:01:34 and he held his own. He played awesome. I loved it. He was teeing off, obviously, from the Charlie T's. He was up there quite a way. but he would go up there and hit first on a lot of holes. And if he hit a good one, he would just give Tiger the thumbs up. Tiger wouldn't even hit.
Starting point is 00:01:44 Yeah, I was watching late the first day, 18th hole. Charlie was playing a par five from 430. Tiger was back there, I think, at 560. So it was a 130-yard advantage. Charlie got up there and just ripped one. They ended up only having like 20-5 or 203. So it's at about, you know, 230, 2-25. That's moving it, and they had a little flip in there.
Starting point is 00:02:02 It's a problem. Yeah, you got about one. I cannot give Charlie Woods 120 yards off the team. You need to play with Charlie in the next nine months, or it's going to be a problem. But man, what good action he has. It was really cool to see. He handled himself beautifully.
Starting point is 00:02:13 And they're going to be a force to be wrecking with in this tournament. Oh, as that kid starts growing up and getting longer and longer, the one thing, like, we're sitting here talking about Charlie Woods on our podcast here. I don't want to call it scary, but the crazy thing is, like, he's 11 years old, all the media attention, all the social media. I mean, everything this kid does from now till college pro wherever is going to be under a bigger microscope than, I mean, it's going to be, that's tough sledding for a young kid. Everything he does will be analyzed and overanalyzed and over-scrutinized across the board.
Starting point is 00:02:43 Being the son of Tiger Woods is obviously very hard. I mean, even look at like Gary Nicholas when he was trying to play professional golf, you know, under the microscope of Jack Nicholas, like it was all scrutinized. Why are you not as good as your dad? It's tough. It's hard to be. That's like Wayne Gretzky's kids. None of them ended up really playing hockey.
Starting point is 00:02:56 Yeah. It's hard to live under the great one. The same way. Kind of played a little bit and then dipped out because it's just that bar is so high, best of all time. And now you're carrying that same name. He's got, it's going to be hopefully like he. can just stay as far removed from that as possible because he's an incredible player already,
Starting point is 00:03:12 but that's a lot of attention coming his way in the next handful of years. Yeah, it was, it was really fun to watch and can't wait to see what happens. But Sleys, let's get to the man of the hour, an hour plus some, I believe. I think this is our longest. I would have kept it going. I would have gone Joe Rogan on this one, just three hours. All right, keep going. Tell another one. But what else happened? Yeah, Mike Commodore, for those of you who don't know, former hockey player, you know, made a splash in the league in Carolina, won the Stanley Cup in 2006, was known for his big red afro, big red beard, and his robe, pregame. Pregame robe, which will get into the huge red afro.
Starting point is 00:03:44 It was a fan favorite pretty much everywhere he went, very outspoken, just a big personality, a big character. One of those guys, if he comes to your team, I think he immediately comes like, that's my guy. That's my favorite player. He controls the locker room. He gets everybody going, gets everybody in a good mood before the game. And I mean, he's just, I've known him for a long time. He's a blast to play golf with.
Starting point is 00:04:01 And he's a hockey player. They're just, they're fun to be around. Oh, dude, his golf games nice. He's just one of those guys, like, if he has, You go play because it's going to, whether you shoot 100 or you shoot 60, you're going to have a good time with Comey. No doubt. But before we get to Mike Commodore, a word from our official sponsor, Atlas Hair Product. Slees, I don't know a lot about hair because I don't really have much. But my good buddy, Chris Worme, otherwise known as the Worm, started this product, Atlas Air Product. He used to caddy out at Whisperock,
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Starting point is 00:05:53 There is a little bit of vulgar language, which he is a hockey player, so it's more than acceptable. Locker room talk with a hockey player. That's what you're going to get. So if you're not into that, maybe, you know, just keep your ears peeled. but we'll do our best to take care of it. But this is real live interview with a hockey legend. No matter what, listen to it anyway, because you're going to love it. You'll thank us later.
Starting point is 00:06:11 Here he is, Mike Commodore on Golf Subpar. All right, ladies and gentlemen, we have a bona fide champion with us here today. NCAA champion, I-IHF, world champion, Stanley Cup champion, and just a straight-up champion of life, I would say. NHL vet, Mike Commodore is in the building. How are we doing, brother? I'm doing great. Thanks a lot for having me.
Starting point is 00:06:31 Drew, I appreciate it. It's great to be here. Absolutely. First off, our guy Ray Whitney, he calls you Champ Champ. Is that correct? Yeah, he goes Champ Champ, Champ. We go true champ. We go back and forth a little bit.
Starting point is 00:06:41 But, I mean, you have more than two, so I'm not Champ, Champ Champ Champ. Triple Champ. I should be Triple Champ. That's right. Yeah. Ray would be Champ Champ with a Memorial Cup and a Stanley Cup. But Ray never got that. I got on Team Canada to play in the world.
Starting point is 00:06:57 I mean, I had no business really being there, to be honest. Thank God the tournament was in Russia. there's none of the good players who wanted to go. And I was actually playing okay at the time. But Ray actually hooked me up with that. He called me and Steve Eiserman was the general manager. And so Ray calls me. He's like, hey, Steve wants to know, would you go to Russia and play for Team Canada?
Starting point is 00:07:15 I'm like, Ray, I don't give a shit where the tournament is. I'm like, I've never played for Team Canada. I mean, maybe my invitations got lost in the mail or something, but never even an invite. I'm like, yeah, I don't give a shit where the tournament is. So Ray's like, okay, I'm going to tell him. So Ray got me on that team, kind of an, a sideways kind of way. And yeah, that team got ripped on, like, who are these guys?
Starting point is 00:07:37 You got Mike Commeter on defense? Are you kidding me? We didn't have any, like, big, big name stars. And the guys we did were kind of young. And so we were just getting torched in Canada. And I don't know in the United States, nobody really gives a shit about it. But in Canada, it's kind of a big deal. And we went 9 and 0. I mean, I don't know why we showed up.
Starting point is 00:07:58 They should just mailed us a gold medal. Triple champ. Yep, triple champ. Let's go over something. You're probably not 9-0, and that's golf. You know, we know you're a big golfer, but you've got a nice game. I was looking up earlier. That's nice you to say.
Starting point is 00:08:08 You're currently carrying a 4.4 handicap. You were as low as a 0.8, though. I've seen you at your high. I've seen you at your lows. You have. I actually thought about that on the way over. You saw me shoot a 68 at Gaza Ranch with a double bogey on 18. Dude, first off, we were tied with two holes to play.
Starting point is 00:08:26 Oh, boy, that's when you'd have a hard time living that one down. You clip them straight up. We were six, both six under with two to play. I'm like, holy shit, I'm about to get beat by my commenter. This is a problem. Twitter's going to be going, not the world will know. I didn't know we were tied. I knew I was playing well.
Starting point is 00:08:41 I didn't even look at the scorecard. I'm like, man, I've made a lot of birdies here and not that many bogeys. And even the shots that I didn't hit great, I'm like, oh, they're in play. I'm in the mix. And then I think it was 17. I like stuffed one to two feet on the par three. And I'm like, Jesus. You know, nice draw in there.
Starting point is 00:08:57 Usually I like cut it around. And I'm like, oh, I think it was. Oh my God. And then, yeah, then 18 happened. Yeah, you were something, not all those are closers. No, not a closer. And everybody went silent. That's when I was like, oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:09:09 Because I was walking up to the tea and nobody's saying anything. And I'm like, damn it, I have a good. Something good must be happening. I'm like something's going on here. The game, like don't talk to commies about the career. Don't talk. You know, there was trouble left. Don't fan it right.
Starting point is 00:09:22 I was hitting a great all day off the tea. I mean, it was in play. And I got up there just don't go left. because left is for sure gone. Left is like in the lake, like down the canyon. This ball stood in. So far right. And so like weak.
Starting point is 00:09:39 Oh yeah. Almost. Like search party out there. I'm like, oh my God. I just banned this thing out about 220 off the tea. Everybody was looking for it. Found it. It was in bounds by about maybe a foot tops.
Starting point is 00:09:52 Hit it off a tree. Hacked it out of there again. I got on in four. And then I left my bogey putt like six feet short. You guys made me put it. And I actually got to. Yeah, I had to 100% in that. Hey, good round.
Starting point is 00:10:08 Yeah. Thanks God, you didn't beat me. It's my low. Is that your low ever? Yeah, I've done 68 three times. Once at Gauzer and then once on the Whisper Rock upper and once in the lower. That's real golf. Yeah, that's been a long time ago.
Starting point is 00:10:21 We've seen you play some good goal. Were you playing when you were still playing professional hockey like in the NHL and stuff like that? Or did you get into that once you retired and had some more. time? You know what? I played. I can't even really say I played as a kid. I had golf clubs, but I played a lot of baseball. Then once I went to college, I mean, I had no money in college, so there was no golf. And then once I got a little bit of money, once I signed, I never played during the year. And then we played a ton, because, you know, you'd work out at whatever in the summers at like nine in the morning. You work out, you know, you skate later. But let's, I mean,
Starting point is 00:10:53 even if you're skating, you're doing everything. I mean, you're done by one o'clock at the latest. He got the rest of the day. So it took up golf then. So I would say I've probably been golfing pretty regularly, at least in the summers for, I guess it'd be 20 years now. That's pretty good. It's still a late start by golf standards. Yeah, for sure. It's like learning a language. It's hard. The older you get, the harder it is, the bigger shit up. And the habits, like, I mean, if I could do it all over again, you're stupid. I mean, I never took a lesson, which was, so then, yeah, you kind of learn how to get it around a little bit with your shitty swing and kind of, peeling it around, peeling it around.
Starting point is 00:11:29 I'm still doing that. Oh, come on. You're compressing it. Not much, bud. Not much. Rarely, bud. Your stuff's been nice lately. It has been, like, strangely clean lately.
Starting point is 00:11:41 But there'll be a dip. You know what I mean? I can only ride her until she bucks me. But you've obviously got the bug. I mean, now that you're retired, you go on a lot of golf trip, with a lot of hockey guys. I know you made a really cool trip.
Starting point is 00:11:51 A couple years ago over to the British Open. You ended up staying on a couch at a rent house with a bunch of the caddies. Joe Scoverin. Sammy Pinfold, Maddie Kelly. Tell us a little bit about that trip. Yeah, yeah, it worked out great. So Joe and I have been buddies since we,
Starting point is 00:12:04 I think we both pretty much got on Whisper Rock at the same time. So Joe Skobrin, you know, we hang out. We're about the same age and he had heard. So I guess the whole, this would have been the, if it wasn't for COVID, this would have been the eighth year of the Cleary Horkoff invitational. Dan Cleary and Sean Horkoff, two hockey players.
Starting point is 00:12:23 They played together in the minors. Dan played a long time with Detroit. sorry and Sean Horkoff played a long time with Evanton and I played in Detroit a little bit met Dan we both loved the golf and so we kind of put this trip together so this would have been the eighth year we were going back to Scotland we do like you know years one three the odd years we'll do like an eight man trip somewhere
Starting point is 00:12:45 in North America so we've done like abandoned dunes we've done like Sand Valley whistling straits we've gone out to Kee well we play some sick tracks there's no doubt about it and then on the off years on the even years we pick up eight Europeans and we go over and we play somewhere in Europe. So this year was going to be the eighth year and we're going over to Scotland and we were going to do Scotland and then Iceland and then go home. About a couple years ago, so the last summer over in Europe, we did Scotland and then we went to Spain and we played Voldorama, which, I mean, that place is sick. I mean,
Starting point is 00:13:18 kicked the living shit. Yeah, that place. Oh my. Oh, it was so hard. Like even if you, I mean, you know, for us, if you keep it in between the tree lines, that's a good thing. They're like, if you're in between the tree lines, it's like overhanging limbs. I mean, it was an ass kicking, but it was, I mean, we had a good time for sure. So Joe had heard I was going on this trip probably a couple weeks before. He's like, man, he's like, well, the trip ends right before the open at Carnusti. Why don't you come? I'm like, oh, I'm like, Joe, he's like, hey, you can stay with us, stay with the caddies.
Starting point is 00:13:50 You've got to pass the whole time. Like, come on. And I'm like, fuck. Like, I can't. I know what this trip is going to be just, the Clary Horacoff Invitational is a lot of golf. And it is hitting the flask the entire day. I mean, we are in one big time. Yeah, we're boozing.
Starting point is 00:14:08 So I know how I'm going to feel after seven straight days of this, but I'm like, I can't say no to that. I've never been to the open. That would be a cool experience. So Joe invited me over. Everybody, so we played, the trip finished in Spain. Everybody went home. And then I went back to Scotland, made a huge mistake.
Starting point is 00:14:27 Like, they drive on the other side of the road there. Yeah, they do. Yeah, they do. It's good to know before you get over there. I knew they did, but I'm like, ah, can't be that hard. That's the difference. Yeah. Just flip everything.
Starting point is 00:14:38 I just booked a flight from wherever we were in Spain back to Edinburgh, and I just rented a car. God, why? So stupid. Like, I know they have trains that go everywhere there, and I'm like, I don't want to look into that. I'll just rent a car. No big deal. So I land in Edinburgh get my car and I get in this thing. It's like some kind of Mercedes. So everything's on the wrong side and I'm sitting in the parking lot. I'm like how the I don't I've never owned a Mercedes like how the fuck do you start this thing. So I'm like I'm like, is it one of the tiny ones because the cars are tiny over there too. It was like jam your ass in there. It wasn't for you. But it was like more midsides. It wasn't one of the compact space. I got a little space. Yeah. So I'm in this car trying to figure out how to start the fucking thing.
Starting point is 00:15:23 think first off and I get this thing started I'm sitting in the parkade I'm like I'm looking around and the mirrors on the other side the rearview mirror and I'm like how the fuck so I find I am in I mean it's cold out it's not warm I'm in a full sweat like my shirt is so so I get this thing in well it was this way get this thing into reverse I back this thing up and I'm pulling out of the there's like a traffic circle I go kind of I didn't go the wrong way but kind of cut across a lane and I'm finally get out. I take a left. I'm following the map here. And it was like a fast and furious
Starting point is 00:15:58 convention. Just got finished. There were like those fast and furious cars with the wings and all that shit. They're zooming by. I'm like, holy Christ. So I finally get this thing on the highway. I am horrified. The whole way to Carnusti. I get
Starting point is 00:16:14 there. I'm like, I'm pulling it in. It's just the whole thing. I bang it off. I get all the way to Joe's rental. And I rental house and I bang it off one of those, you know, they got those stone walls everywhere over there. So I'm pulling this thing, thank God, I'm here, bang it off
Starting point is 00:16:30 one of them. I'm like, oh God, it wasn't too bad. Insurance, whatever. Yeah, I'm like, whatever. I made it here. And so finally get there. And I mean, I was hurting. So Joe, you know, Joe keeps it clean definitely during the weeks where he's working, but you know, these guys want to have some beers and like, I'm struggling.
Starting point is 00:16:46 And I've been, I mean, it's been going. Oh, I mean, it's been 20 drinks a day at minimum. for a week. So I get in there and I'm like, man, I need to sleep. I'm dying. I'm like, come on. Joe's like, you pussy.
Starting point is 00:16:58 Have a beer. I'm like, yeah, I'll have a beer. So anyways, did the practice rounds. It was super cool. Like, I got to go inside the ropes with Joe and Ricky. So that was a fun experience, kind of wandering around a little bit. And Ricky was awesome. He was, you know, I was, I'd never been inside the rope.
Starting point is 00:17:12 So I'm keeping my distance. I don't want to get in anybody's way. And then, you know, the guys don't give a shit. I figured that out probably by day two. They're like, whatever. So I just follow around, had a good time. And yeah, it was fun. Ricky was in the mix.
Starting point is 00:17:28 I was staying with Joe. We'd have some beers, not too many, but the weekend finally comes. And I was kind of coming around and ended up running into a couple random people, like a couple of hockey guys. Sagan was there just randomly ran into him. I was there by myself. So Joe and the rest of the caddies would work the whole week, obviously. And so I had the full day to myself.
Starting point is 00:17:48 So Thursday, Friday, I kind of took it easy. Ricky was either I mean in my head I'm thinking hey Ricky's looking for his first major and if he wins this fucking thing maybe I'm like the good charm you know what I mean I get to go to more to you I'll be on every major for the rest of his career
Starting point is 00:18:07 so I'm cheering for him hard it was Saturday morning I get out there I'm by myself I got the app on my phone I got Bose heads phones on because I'm not hanging out with anybody so I can listen to the coverage and all that and I'm like I am going to get after it today. So like they don't like things.
Starting point is 00:18:25 Had a golf tournament by yourself. I love that mentality. I'm like, I am going to get after it. I'm drinking. I'm double fiscan these whiskeys. Yeah. Warm whiskeys. I'm like, whatever.
Starting point is 00:18:36 So Ricky gets off to a good start. I'm like, yes. He's tied for the lead or solo lead going into, it's called Hogan's alley there along the fence. It's like the fifth or sixth hole, I think it is. Like six, yeah. Yeah, I think it's six. So I think he pared five.
Starting point is 00:18:51 So I'm standing there. I've already slugged a couple whiskeys because the shack is like halfway down the fairway on the left hand side outside the fence. So I got shades on. I got my N1 shirt. I got my Bose headphones on. I'm double fisting.
Starting point is 00:19:05 I'm like, I'm going to follow him the whole way in. I'm going to have a day today. I'm ready to go. They're coming up to the tee, Joe and Ricky. Ricky sees me, he laughs. Taps Joe. Joe's laughing. I'm sitting there.
Starting point is 00:19:18 I'm like, come on. And so he puts the ball on the ground. tease off, smashes it, and I can't see shit. And I'm like, where is it? And I'm like, oh, I don't like his reaction. Hits it OB left, bounces left, hits the next one right. He ends up taking an eight. It might have been the most, like disappointed I've ever been. Like, I felt like I took a triple bogey. I was like, oh, so I followed him around for a little bit. And then I'm like, well, then I kind of let him go and wandered around. But didn't work out. I'm not Ricky's good luck charm. I haven't got any invites back.
Starting point is 00:19:51 Well, I turned the coverage on because the coverage starts obviously really early here in Scottsdale. I turn it on. It almost is this massive red-headed man with two drinks and they're right behind Tiger Woods. I'm like, holy shit, why is Mike Commodore sitting here following Tiger Woods right now? Yeah, I was sitting there and I was wandering around. I kind of like a baby blue shirt on with my ugly mug and the cartoon thing with the Afro on the front. And my phone starts like, z-z-z-z-z. I'm like, what the fuck is going on here?
Starting point is 00:20:17 So I looked. And yeah, the coverage was. on and I had messages from guys that I hadn't heard from a lot of guys I used to play with. They're like they would take a picture of the TV and sitting there double fist. I was by the end of that round I was I was in one. I got like 16 texts on that like look at Kami. Like everybody saw it and was screenshoting it and sending it around it. I was like oh my God, look at this animal.
Starting point is 00:20:41 For the people at home that don't know though, explain the N1. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So it's something I've had fun with. It's I guess to define. it. I mean, you can really make it whatever you want. But I mean, I guess the easiest way would be, you know, having a few drinks, having a lot of drinks, having a lot of drinks, I guess by yourself,
Starting point is 00:21:00 you can do it however you want. With those headphones. It's a warm whiskey. Whatever, you're having a good time or having a bunch of drinks and enjoying yourself would probably be the best definition. It's like get amongst it. Yeah. It's just like getting amongst it. That's what we said. You created a whole thing with sauce hockey or have a t-shirt of your face on it. Because back when you won the Stanley Cup, you had the big fro. Big pro. Yeah. My glory. days yeah beautiful beautiful human thank you was real thank you yeah what was the upkeep like on that thing what was the day to day on that was that just naturally you roll out of bed and bam it's already popping or you have to do some stuff i literally did nothing ever to it i did this in college
Starting point is 00:21:32 for a little bit like kind of how it well it's something you are gifted my man but thank you i can grow hair i got a lot of issues but there's one thing i can do i can grow hair very jealous mike uh it started in college and uh anyways long story short you know me and a buddy, Jeff Olmer, he lives here in town. We just did this thing in college where we used to get report cards. So I went to the University of North Dakota. It was like you'd play the weekend series if you were one, you played great, two year or average, three you were dog shit.
Starting point is 00:22:04 And so we just did this thing at the beginning. You're like, why don't we grow our hair out until we get a three until we're dog shit? So when we had good teams at North Dakota, so we were, we didn't get a three until too late in the year where by this point he'd already grown my hair for, you know, six, seven months, whatever it is. I'm like, well, I'm not cutting it now. I've come this far. And I could tell it was kind of popular with the college kids. Back then, they loved it. And, you know, for the, you know, you have a helmet on in college with a mask, but take your helmet off, sorry, for the national anthem.
Starting point is 00:22:32 And the kids loved it. And, you know, a lot of attention. I'm like, ah, so I kind of did that in pro. I did it except when I was with New Jersey, because Lou La Mirillo would have none of that. And that's where I started. But after that, I did it every year. But nobody gave a shit except for the two years where we went to the finals with Calgary. Carolina. But it got a little tension and yeah, it worked out well for me. Yeah, but you mentioned North Dakota. You were University of North Dakota. That's where you went to school. One, how did you end up there? Two, was hockey the sport at North Dakota? Yeah. Oh, yeah. So how I ended up there. I mean, I grew up in Western Canada and, you know,
Starting point is 00:23:09 played junior, well, Tier 2 junior. To be totally honest, I wasn't very good. I was okay. Kind of a late bloomer, I guess, but like I love to play hockey. just because it was, it's fucking freezing in Fort Saskatchewan. And that's what you do. You play hockey in the winters. Everybody kind of skates. And so I enjoyed competing. And I was very average, I would say.
Starting point is 00:23:32 And then in my grade 12 year, uh, I was supposed to go. I had made a team in major junior. I got drafted by the Tacoma Rockets, but they moved to Colonna and British Columbia. And I was on that team. And my mother was like,
Starting point is 00:23:46 hey, look, like, it's different now. but you know my mother got the we can touch on ray later but my mother got the horror stories from like high school kids going to play major junior and not going to school or not graduating and she's like you're finishing i mean i was always in class you're finishing high school and then you can do whatever you want so my plan was to finish high school play tier two junior for the fourth of scatchewan traders i know it's kind of confusing a little bit but play tier two finish high school then go play major junior and see where that goes and as As I was playing my grade 12 year for the Fort Saskatchewan Traders, I was sitting in the dressing room probably a month into the season, and our head coach came in and he's like, hey, he's like BU's upstairs. They want to talk to you. You should get up there right now. I'm like, yeah, yeah, okay.
Starting point is 00:24:33 I'm like, B.U. What the fuck is BU? Like, no idea. I have no idea what college hockey is. I've never seen a game. I don't know any of the universities, nothing. So I walk up there and I sit down with this guy who was the assistant coach. I forget his name.
Starting point is 00:24:46 I ran into him like 15 years. after. So he hands me this booklet. I'm like, oh, B.U. Boston University, the Terriers. And he's like, yeah, you know, talking about the program, all this. I'm like, oh, yeah, that sounds good. Yeah, no. Yeah, I've definitely thought about going to college. I'm like, what the fuck is this guy talking about? I have no clue. Like, no clue. I've never been anywhere near Boston. I have no idea what college sports are whatsoever. So he takes off. I'm like, okay. And then once one comes, kind of more come. And the University of North Dakota came probably about a month later. I just turned 17 years old and they were hey do you want to come for a flydown i'm like oh okay i'm like
Starting point is 00:25:24 well i'll ask my parents and you know they'll come they're like no no no you're you're coming i'm like without my parents they're like yeah i'm like yeah sold done let's do it done where do i sign let's go so i flew in and i had gone to like a decent amount of uh of major junior games swift current and red deer and a bunch of different games and some places are awesome some aren't so much, just like college hockey, I guess. But I went to the University of North Dakota, and I walked into the building, and it was a weekend series, so Friday, Saturday night.
Starting point is 00:25:56 It was the University of North Dakota against Colorado College. I walked into that building. It was the old building. They have a new one now, but it was 6,500 people. The place was slammed. They had the rink cut in half. Half was like, you know, people that lived in town, season ticket holders.
Starting point is 00:26:11 The other half was student. They were all hammered. There were girls everywhere. I'm sitting there. I'm like, wow. I'm like, college. This is college. Unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:26:20 I'm like, fuck major, junior. I'm going to college. So I literally, I signed my letter of a tent a little bit later, and that's how I ended up. But you couldn't have been like an average, like you were describing it like junior player because you and D, they won so many championships. Like that's like the Alabama almost of college hockey, I feel like. So you couldn't have been an average dude and be getting looks from like Boston
Starting point is 00:26:39 and North Dakota. I think it was, I was a little bit like college hockey kind of has more like, older, it should be better hockey than junior because, you know, junior, you get guys from 16 years old to 20. Anything older than 20, you can't play junior. In college hockey, it's, you know, 18 years old or whatever you are. I was 17 when I got there. Then I turned 18 in November, but to, I mean, guys can be as old as 26. So it's, I mean, you're playing against men. So it should be better hockey, right? Um, yeah, but I was a, being completely honest, I was a, I had a little bit of offense to me, but not much. I was, I was a big guy that liked to take the body. I can't say I was
Starting point is 00:27:24 very offensively. I wasn't a Ray Whitney by any stretch of the imagination. So I wasn't really the typical guy that would go to college, if that makes sense. But it ended up working out. Like, when I went to college, I think a lot of scouts and stuff thought that I was a pussy. They're like, oh, this guy, you know, this guy doesn't, he doesn't like the rough stuff. This guy's a pussy. I mean, played in tier two. I led my team in penalty minutes. I had a bunch of fights. But I just went there because I never, for me, I'm like, I never saw my professional hockey didn't dawn on me until the New Jersey Devils picked me in the second round. Well, that's what's shocking is you got picked in the second round round. I mean, 40 second overall. I mean, 40 second overall. I would,
Starting point is 00:28:13 the North Dakota just won a national title. I came in the next year. I would, you know, You know, I played, but very sparingly. I mean, I dressed for most of the games, but played very sparingly. My second year, we were playing against Notre Dame, actually, the Fighting Irish. Right around Christmas time, I hadn't scored a goal in college or anything yet. I was running some people over, whatever. But whatever it was, I scored a goal, and it was weird. I still remember it to this day.
Starting point is 00:28:38 It was like, you, the game was so fast for me. And then all of a sudden like that, everything slowed down, like in between the years. and from that point forward, then they have kind of rankings that come out before the draft, and then I was ranked, and I'm like, okay. And then I did this combine. You go to Toronto, you do these different tests, bench press, all this other stuff, which I was awful at.
Starting point is 00:28:59 And then New Jersey, they have like a little extra test. It was like, if they liked you, they would be like, hey, come over to our facility, so we would go over. And so basically the only test that mattered, it was the only one that I did. I could have done another one, but they're like, you don't need to.
Starting point is 00:29:14 So it was this treadmill test where every, I want to say, minute and a half, the speed would go up and the treadmill, like the incline would go up. So you start for the first like four, six minutes or whatever, you're walking and then a little bit, and then it gets going. So I'm looking at this. I'm watching the guy in front of me. He went to Wisconsin. I was playing against me. He was fairly highly rated. And I'm like, I'm watching them.
Starting point is 00:29:35 And he did like, I want to say like 11 minutes. And it looked really hard. By the end of it, I mean, it is all out. Basically, the test is once you get to your maximum heart rate, how long are you willing to hang in there? Whenever you hit your maximum heart rate, it doesn't really matter, but like, how long can you hang in there? So I'm like, I don't give a shit what I do here, but I'm like, I'm going to beat that guy. That's it. And so I got on the treadmill, and I can actually run okay, or I used to be able to anyways.
Starting point is 00:30:02 And so I beat him by a significant margin, and I wasn't going to go to the draft or anything like that. And New Jersey, and they're like, you know, they're like, hey, they're like, you don't have to do any more. testing, that's good. You know, when are you getting to the draft? I'm like, you know what? I'm like, I'm not, you know, I don't have a whole lot of money. The draft's in Boston. I'm like, my parents live outside of Edmonton, Alberta. That's a long way to go. I'm like, I don't think I'm going to go. I don't want to be sitting in the fucking stands and not get picked or get picked in like the sixth round when you're supposed to go on the second or whatever. And New Jersey, that was the reason why I went to the draft. New Jersey was like, no, no, you need to go to the draft.
Starting point is 00:30:36 So I'm like, okay. So I went to the draft. New Jersey had a pick. I thought two teams liked me. I thought New Jersey liked me, and I thought Washington liked me. So we're in the stands in Boston. First round goes through, and we're getting towards the end of the first round. New Jersey was very good back then. Well, they're shit now, but they were very good back then. And so they had a late first round pick.
Starting point is 00:30:58 And so they had a pick like 20, I don't know, there was 31 picks in the draft, or 30, I guess, 27th or 28th. And I'm like, oh, this might be it. My old man's a warrior. He's like, what the fuck are we doing here, this and that? And I'm like, hey, would you calm down? I'm like, I'm the one that's supposed to be nervous. I'm the one getting drafted here.
Starting point is 00:31:16 And so New Jersey picked a goalie. And he was a little heated, but he's like, okay, okay. I'm like, hey, I wasn't going in the first round anyways. Relaxed Dad. And then Washington had three picks right at the beginning of the second round. And they picked a defenseman. And they picked another defenseman. And I'm pretty sure they went three defensemen, none of them were me.
Starting point is 00:31:36 And my old man with every pick that goes by, he's like, Washington liked you? What the fuck? Why are we here? I'm like, would you relax? And then New Jersey got their second pick, which was 42nd or whatever it was overall. And off to the races. That's incredible. Yeah, you're off to the races.
Starting point is 00:31:49 And you bounced around a little bit. Yeah, a lot. Let's just go right to 2006. Obviously, you find a home in Carolina. Yeah. I mean, with our guy, Ray Whitney. Yeah. And you'll end up winning the cup.
Starting point is 00:31:59 Yep. First off, what was that you're like? That's kind of where I feel like you, the world really got to know Mike Commodore. Basically because of your antics before games, maybe after games. Take us through that season. During games. Yeah. It was, yeah, so just to back it up a little bit.
Starting point is 00:32:14 So in 2004, like you said, I bounced around up and down, miners back, back and forth, traded twice, this and that. And things were, to be honest, a little iffy and got traded to Calgary, finished the year there in 03. I finally got, to be completely honest, my third year pro, I was supposed to play in Anaheim, got sent to Cincinnati and being completely honest. I mean, I showed up and I worked my ass off the games, but I was drinking too much for sure. And got traded to Calgary, and then, you know, I had this reputation where, well, and this was because of a whole other thing,
Starting point is 00:32:53 but Babcock, I don't even want to get into that. We might touch that. Yeah, okay. I don't want to get after it too early, but this guy went to the paper when I was in Anaheim and was like, this guy doesn't care. Anyway, I fought everybody in camp and I was in great shape, but he thought I didn't care.
Starting point is 00:33:07 Anyways, so now I have a reputation. So, anyways, finish that year in Calgary, the last six games or whatever. And they're like, hey, they're like, well, we heard you don't work. Oh, you got to stay in Calgary. And I'm like, at the time, I had a place in Minnesota, a lake place. I'm like, you know what? Fuck the Lake Place. I'm like, fine, I'll stay in Calgary.
Starting point is 00:33:23 No problem. So anyways, I think I put that to bed over the years. But didn't make the team the next year. The team was, and we had a ton of defensemen. I was on a two-way contract. And then, you know, ended up getting up the second half of the year. We go to the finals. and we lose to Tampa Bay in seven.
Starting point is 00:33:41 Everything's good. I signed a two-year one-way deal, which was a big, so a one-way deal means that there's only one salary. So whether you're playing in the minors or you're playing in the NHL, you're making X amount of dollars. It doesn't matter.
Starting point is 00:33:52 And thinking everything is good, next thing we've got a fucking lockout. So the 0-4, the next season is gone. So I'm right back to the miners again. I'm like, oh, my God, again. And then had a good year in the minors. It actually, in hindsight, it was probably the best thing that happened.
Starting point is 00:34:08 career was that lockout. Calgary and Carolina split a farm team and I had a really good year that year in the minors and the day of the draft Carolina traded for me at first I was like ah shit I'm like you know Carolina they were dog shit no four like the last NHL season Calgary you know we'd just gone to the finals but then I sat there and thought about it I'm like well I'm not gonna there's too many defensemen in Calgary anyways show up to Carolina we're supposed to I think we were picked to finish like 28th or 29th to start the year. New set of rules, though, and everything. And it was a special year.
Starting point is 00:34:43 You could kind of, to be honest, we were good. I think we lost three games in a row one time towards the end of the year. We rarely lost two in a row. We lost the last game of the season. If we would have won it, we would have finished first in the east. So we ended up finished in second. We had a really good team. We had a team.
Starting point is 00:35:06 I mean, guys like Ray. and Eric Stahl, Justin Williams, Rod. But we had a team that was, we had a kind of a, I don't want to say no name decor, but like our guys that were known were older, kind of at the tail end of their careers. We had a bunch of guys that could score goals and we had some good goal tending.
Starting point is 00:35:25 And we were just, yeah, off to the races, yeah. Was that the year, when you won the cup, was that the year that the robe thing started, the pregame robe? Was that when it became in vogue and you became known for that? Yeah, yeah, that kind of. Give you the origin of that. because I find that I love that about you.
Starting point is 00:35:38 Sure, yeah. So, single guy, the Carolina Hurricanes put a little pamphlet in our dressing room, in our lockers. He had a Christmas present from the Carolina Hurricanes. So you open up this pamphlet and there was like six things to choose from. There was like a, you know, a wine set and a barbecue set. And it was a bunch of shit that as a single guy, I mean, I'm not sitting at home drinking wine. I'm not throwing wine parties.
Starting point is 00:36:05 I'm not barbecue and anything. I go to eat every time. And the one thing they had in there was a robe. I'm like, well, fuck, maybe I'll use a robe. I don't know. It's easy. So put my thing in, yeah, I'll take a robe. So this was like in December. Thing finally arrives in March.
Starting point is 00:36:19 The end of the season is like the first week of April. And so this robe comes in. So I put it on in the change room, not in the locker room, but in our little change room or whatever. I'm like, God, this thing's pretty fucking nice. And one of the veterans on the team, Glenn Wesley, who played like in the NHL for literally, ever. I think he's got 1,500 games. He's been around forever. He's like, oh, Mike, I love that.
Starting point is 00:36:42 I'm like, yeah, Glenn, you like this? He's like, yeah, he's like, why don't you get the equipment guys to stitch your number in there? I go, yeah, Glenn, come on. He goes, yeah. I'm like, ah, fuck, this guy's been around forever, sure. So they stitch my number in. And so I kind of do a little production, walk into the dress room, all the guys are in there. They're laughing. I got a big afro by this time. They're laughing at me, whatever. I do a little dance and kind of go about. So I'm like, well, I'm going to wear this. I mean, my warm-up when I played was, I wasn't doing too many dynamic warm-ups.
Starting point is 00:37:11 It was like cups of coffee. I'd do a little stretch, some high knees, and I was off to the races. So I'd wear it around as I was drinking coffee. Guys would get a little laugh at it. And then once we got into the playoffs, you know, it's the same stuff, you know, if you end up keeping going for a little while.
Starting point is 00:37:27 I mean, there's only, I mean, as the media guys, I mean, it's the same guys every day, right? So you're looking for stuff to talk about. and the camera kind of caught me as I was drinking a cup of coffee or doing a little dance or whatever I was doing and so they kind of latched on to it and then
Starting point is 00:37:43 we won the first round and then all of a sudden it was like photo shoots and then there was like my dad came down he's like there's a life or life size cut out of you in a fucking robe on the concourse I'm like yeah I got this robe on an afro with these crocs
Starting point is 00:37:59 and anyways it just kind of went from there and yeah that thing's in the hockey hall of believe it or not. That thing is it really? Yeah. I mean, you couldn't take it off. I mean, you were winning. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:38:09 Had to keep going. I mean, that thing, yeah, that thing got a lot of mileage. I mean, we ended up winning. So once when we won game seven against the Oilers to win the cup, I mean, obviously I had that thing on. I mean, there's booze everywhere. And then the kind of fast forward now into the summer, I mean, I never washed the fucking thing.
Starting point is 00:38:28 You know, it's got a good juju. Yeah, you got to leave it, let this thing go. So soaked in sweat, soaked in. booze just sits there and I was my weekend with the cup with ray you know I had this thing sitting in my hockey bag I don't even know how the fuck it got there but and the hockey hall of fame guy the cup keeper he's I'm like I got this fucking robe he's like what are you going to do with it I'm like I don't know man the thing fucking stinks he's like well can I have it I'm like what are you going to do with it he's like I'm going to put it in the hockey hall of fame I'm like are you serious
Starting point is 00:38:58 he's like yeah I go have it yeah so they put they had it on display I think for now I'm sure in the basement. I mean, it's not on display anymore. That's cool, though. Yeah. I didn't know what made it to the whole thing. Right next to Wayne's jersey. Here's Wayne and here's Mikey's robe. But tell us a little bit. I mean, that's one of the coolest traditions in sports. When you went to Stanley Cup, each member of the team, I think
Starting point is 00:39:18 staff and everything, correct? Get to get a day with the Cup. Yep. So tell us about your day. I mean, that's a lifelong journey. Yeah. Yeah, it was uh, yeah, it was, I mean, I'll tell you what, it was, it was a great summer. My attitude going into summer, I'm like, you know what? I'm going to
Starting point is 00:39:34 worked my ass. I mean, went back to Calgary. I'd just been in Calgary to the finals. Beat the Oilers. So, you know, for people that don't know, Calgary, Edmonton is a huge rival in the NHL, one of the biggest. So like a lot of Flames fans were like, and I lived in Calgary at the time in the summers. They're like, thank God you beat the Oilers. So, I mean, I was kind of a fucking rock star for the summer to be totally honest with you. But I'm like, okay, I'm like, I just signed a new contract. I'm like, yeah, I got to take care of my work in the mornings. But Other than that, I'm going to have a good time. So my attitude was if I get invited to a cup party, I'm going.
Starting point is 00:40:10 So I'm sure somebody's broke the record now. But I think I literally went to every cup party of the guys. So I think I went to like 12. So I was going anywhere in North America. If I could do it over again, I would have went to Europe too. Fuck it. I only ended up winning one of them. You only get one kick at this thing.
Starting point is 00:40:26 That's cool. Yeah, no, we've got a after it. It was fun. But my weekend, so we ended up, Ray and I are both from 4, It's Saskatchewan, so we kind of figured it out, well, why don't we, it was pretty late in the summer. I think it was like the third weekend in August. So it's kind of getting towards training camp here, but, you know, you can skate it off and work it off in the morning. But so Ray and I ended up, we, it was actually a really good time.
Starting point is 00:40:52 So Ray and I were like, well, why don't we split two days? I'm like, wait, look, I'm like, hold on. I'm like, I want my day, but I'm like, I also want to take it to the University of North Dakota, because when I was at school at Belford won the cup with the Dallas Stars, right? And I was there watching him. I thought it was cool that he brought it back to North Dakota. So I ended up talking my way into a third day. So.
Starting point is 00:41:16 Well done. Thank you. Yes. So Ray and I were like, okay, it's Ray's down like a Friday. Doug Wade has it in St. Louis on a Thursday night. Ray's like, we got to get that cup. If it flies commercial here, like it's not going to get here until like the evening of our first day here the Friday.
Starting point is 00:41:33 I'm like, yeah, no, that sounds good. He's like, we got to take a plane. I'm like, yeah, Ray, you're paying. Yeah, dude, it's a great idea. Pony up. Yeah, go ahead. Pony up, bitch. Hey, you've been around for a long time.
Starting point is 00:41:44 I just finally signed a one-way deal here. And so we jumped on a plane, flew to St. Louis, got in. I don't even know why we got a hotel room. So Ray and I fly in there. We went over to Joe Buck's house. Doug's having this big party. We blow the doors off. I mean, it was a great time.
Starting point is 00:42:00 I can go around there a little bit. it six in the morning, Doug's time's up. We're like, hey, Doug, hope you had fun. See you later. Grab the cup. Grab the cup guy on the plane back to Edmonton. So Ray had his day the rest of that day. I showed up in the evening. He had like a little get together with a bunch of people just right around where we grew up. And then the next day we flew out again. He was involved in this golf course out on Vancouver Island called Bear Mountain. So we went out there for the morning and then flew back. He's like, hey, Mike, do you mind if I take half? I'm like, Ray, no problem. Not a big deal. So my time kind of officially started halfway through the Saturday. So now we're kind of,
Starting point is 00:42:41 if Ray and I are splitting three days, kind of halfway through the three days. And I had some t-shirts made up. I had like a dozen guys sitting at my parents' place just outside of Edmonton, go get the cup, bring it back. We're all sitting there. I got a party bus. And my thinking was like, yeah, could go out in Emmington, but I really haven't done anything in Edmonton. I've really been around since I was in high school. We just beat the Oilers. Some of my buddies are savage animals. I'm like, the last thing I want to do is go out to a bar and we got some Euler fans and somebody says something
Starting point is 00:43:17 and next thing we know it's a shit show. I'm like, let's take it to Calgary. People like me in Calgary. We can go there. There'll be no issues. So we jumped on a party bus, took the party bus down to Calgary. and the one thing I noticed over the summer about that fucking Stanley Cup like if you start with let's say I don't care what day it is a Monday Sunday like a dead day
Starting point is 00:43:38 you start with five people I mean people show up out of the like you could be in the middle of nowhere people show up out of the fucking woodworks by the end of the day I mean I started I think we had 10 guys on the bus we went to my buddy's restaurant Joey's and kind of met some family
Starting point is 00:43:55 like some extended family but it's the only time I ever met him. I told my parents, I'm like, hey, look, they're more than welcome to come, just so you know they ain't sticking around here. Like, this isn't going to be all of a sudden a big family affair where I got to watch what I'm doing. I'm like, it's on tonight. So got the family stuff done with early.
Starting point is 00:44:13 And then, I mean, by the end of the night, I mean, it was a Sunday night in Calgary, not much going on. We went to three or four different bars, I think it was. We'd walk into a bar. There'd be nobody there, or maybe two people there, one bartender. Within an hour, the place was. slammed. That's awesome.
Starting point is 00:44:28 And I mean, endless boot. I didn't touch my credit card the whole night. I mean, it was insane. That's even better. How was that trophy? How was the Stanley Cup still in one piece? After all these stories and all the guys that win it
Starting point is 00:44:39 and all the crazy dudes that play professional hockey that win it, how is that thing still ticking? So they got two. That's a good question. I ask this too. So they have two. They have a replica, but you do get the actual real one.
Starting point is 00:44:51 You get the real one. Yeah. So they have two because, you know, they have different appearances and stuff like that. But when it's your day, you get the real. one that thing is I mean that thing has been fucking beat up course dude I mean that thing they should write a book on that thing yeah big time I mean a great person to get on the
Starting point is 00:45:06 podcast would be any of those guys that work for the hockey like those cupkeepers I used to think that'd be like the greatest job in the world until I actually won the thing and I'm like these poor dudes they can but they do they do but then imagine it like cool let's say you're the cupkeeper yeah okay let's say you're splitting duties for a summer so you can you Half the time it's yours. So you got to, let's say you're going over to Europe. Let's say you split everything in half. I mean, that is a grind.
Starting point is 00:45:35 Yeah, that's a long summer. Every night, the biggest party of dudes' lives, and you've got to be a part of that. Whether they're just supposed to guard it and make sure no one steals it and anything bad happens to it, basically? Yeah, they basically like keep their eyes on it. Like, it used to be from what those guys told me,
Starting point is 00:45:49 it was like no rules. If that cup could talk, there'd be some great stories. My party was just pretty simple, guys getting banged up. We definitely had a good time, but nothing crazy happened. I kind of screwed up. Well, I definitely screwed up. So we went Friday, Saturday, Sunday,
Starting point is 00:46:07 but we picked it up late Friday night. So really our two days, Ray and I, was Saturday and Sunday. And then I screwed up where, I mean, I had a full floor hotel, like, booked off for whoever wanted to stay. But one of our goaltender, who won the consmite, the MVP of the playoffs, I screwed this up. So my North Dakota day was Tuesday. Cam Ward had it on a Monday. So we had to get this thing back up to Edmonton by 9 in the morning on the Monday morning,
Starting point is 00:46:35 which was stupid. I don't know why to this day. I'm like, God, I screwed up. I should just hate camp. Cam wanted to like eat cereal out of it with his dog. I'm like, dude, you can do that on a Tuesday. And so anyways, we had to, if you want to call it the pub, the party kind of got cut short at 6 a.m.
Starting point is 00:46:53 And then I got it again on a Tuesday and took it out to North Dakota. I mean, it was a good time. They need a documentary on that one year. Just follow it the whole summer. Oh, be unbelievable. You couldn't put it on there. Yeah, they'd have to edit a lot of shit out. Well, we got to ask about this.
Starting point is 00:47:08 I mean, you're legendary for it. I feel like if we don't ask, we wouldn't be doing the people out there justice. And most of our people are golf fans. But they love hockey. Okay. And obviously, there's a very well-known feud with you and a legend. I don't even want to call him a legend because I don't like him because you don't like it.
Starting point is 00:47:21 He's a piece of shit. A well-known coach named Mike Bellow. Babcock. Yeah. Okay. You mentioned it a little bit earlier when you're in Anaheim. Explain us our y'all's relationship a little bit and the big fallout. Okay.
Starting point is 00:47:34 I'll shorten this up as much as I can. So in college, drafted by New Jersey, turned pro, first two years in New Jersey and Albany up and down the whole time. That summer, I get traded from New Jersey to Anaheim. It's Mike Babcock, whom I didn't know, whom I've never seen in my life, I've never had any experience with them whatsoever. I get traded at Anaheim in the summer gives me a call. Hey, make sure you show up in shape. You got to be ready to go. Yeah, sounds good. No problem. On paper, you know, pencil on paper, I'm supposed to be in the top seven, probably five, six
Starting point is 00:48:12 defensemen in Anaheim. It's a good opportunity for me. I am thinking. Get to Anaheim. It's fairly evident early that I'm not in the plans, but I show up in great shape. I fight everybody in camp i love that that's part of the checklist dude i fought everybody yeah i mean i i cared and the first kind of alarm going off in my head was well i'm still young and back then there was like there was like 10 or 12 exhibition games in new jersey i played almost all of them get to anahun i'm playing one i'm like okay this is this is kind of the first thing another thing was in practice you know we're doing this kind of system stuff and as the play is going on. The puck's in the other end. I'm in the neutral zone. And as I'm skating by
Starting point is 00:48:59 him, I just go, hey, Babs, do you want me here, here? Like the puck is 80 feet away. And he blows it down, starts screaming at me. I'm like, this guy is a fucking idiot. Keep that to myself. Anyways, sent to the minors, he goes, which I touched on earlier, where, whatever, he wanted to play somebody else. He had this kid that played for the team that he coached in juniors. And that's fine, that happens all the time, happens every year, no big deal. My problem was he went to the paper and said, because people were asking, they're like, well, traded for Mike, like, why isn't he here? Well, Mike showed up, he doesn't care, he wasn't in shape.
Starting point is 00:49:34 So right away, that was the reputation thing I'm talking about. Now, that's very, very hard to get rid of, if you ever, really ever get rid of it, ever. Anyways, that year, there's a couple of things that happened that year, but whatever. That doesn't really matter. Thank God, Calgary trades for me. Off to the races. is Babbs goes to Detroit. I do the Calgary thing, Carolina.
Starting point is 00:49:55 I'm in Columbus. Now Columbus and Detroit are in the same division back then. So one of the beat writers asked me like, hey, yeah, like, because he kind of knew there was something going on with me and Babs. And, you know, as far as I'm concerned, I'm like, you know, fuck that guy. I'm like, this guy railroaded me. As far as I'm concerned, he tried to do whatever he could to try and bury me with his comments in the paper. And so I kind of go off a little bit as much as you can in the paper.
Starting point is 00:50:24 I'm like, you know what? I'm like, this guy went out of his way to bury me. You know, I got zero respect for him, blah, blah, blah. And I find out we're playing Detroit that night. So I find out after pregame skate, just through the trainers, that the veterans, well, I didn't know who it was at first, that the guys had cut out the article and put it on the wall and highlighted the parts in it where I was giving it to Mike Babcock. Now I'm thinking, I'm like, man,
Starting point is 00:50:51 And the last thing I want to do is be the fucking loudmouthed here. But I end up finding out that it was like Chris Chelyos, Chris Osgood, like veterans on the team, multiple Stanley Cups that were highlighting it because they hated them too. And they wanted to make sure that he saw it. So then I find it funny. We ended up, I'll never forget. We beat Detroit three, two and overtime. I think I actually had like, I had two or three points for sure.
Starting point is 00:51:14 I assisted on the overtime winner. I'm like, fucking rights. Fuck you, Babs, piece of shit. But anyways, fast forward now. A couple years later, I'm still in Columbus. Things go sideways there for a whole other reason. I get bought out. So I get bought out.
Starting point is 00:51:28 So basically, which means you get 66% of your contract paid out over double the years that you have left. And, you know, at my age, I was over 30. And I'm like, it ain't a good thing. That's for sure. If I'm lucky, I get one more chance. So I talked to my agent on June 30th. He's like, you're getting bought out. I'm like, yeah, no shit.
Starting point is 00:51:47 and he's like, I'm like, what do you think is going to happen? He's like, well, he goes, if you're lucky, maybe we get something in August. I go, okay, sounds good. So, you know, free agency starts on July 1st, training camp starts middle of September. I'm like, sounds good. I'm like, no, I can still play. I'm like, I just need a chance. Next day, July 1st, it is five minutes into free agency.
Starting point is 00:52:08 I am on the totem pole. I am like in the basement, below the basement. Nobody's thinking of calling Mike Commodore for a defenseman. And like, that's like way down the road. Nobody's even, you know, it's the high guys that are supposed to be the big deals or whatever. I get a call for my agent five minutes in a free agency. He's like, Mike, I got a contract offer for you.
Starting point is 00:52:30 I'm like, oh, no shit. Well, what is it? He's like, one year, one million bucks. I'm like, one way. He's like, yeah. And that's the best, that's the best I'm going to get. That's, there ain't no more coming. And by that point, my career, it wasn't really about the money.
Starting point is 00:52:45 It was more about the opportunity. I didn't listen to my gut as it ended up turning out. So I'm like, okay, I go, well, who is it? Now I had a different agent then than I did with my first run in with dipship Babs. And he's like, well, Detroit. And so Ken Holland, who just got into Whisper Rock, actually, who's a great dude. I call him Babs now all the time. He knows I hate him.
Starting point is 00:53:09 Anyways, he's a great dude. I played in his golf tournament. Ken loves golf, play with it. We had beers ripping on Babs. I was ripping on him. He was laughing. He might not like that, but I don't care. And so we're sitting there.
Starting point is 00:53:22 Detroit calls one year, one million bucks. And so I tell my agent, I'm like, I'm not fucking going to Detroit. I'm like, he's like, well, why not? I'm like, Mike Babcock's there. I'm like, there's only one reason why he wants me there.
Starting point is 00:53:33 Stay in my fucking career. Because what do he talk about? So I give him the Cole's notes. He's like, what do you want to say? I'm like, well, just put him off. I'm like, tell him we'll get back to him. Like, there's got to be, I mean, hopefully something else, anything else comes.
Starting point is 00:53:45 He's like, well, here, here's the deal. He's like, you have 15 minutes to make up your mind. Either you're in or you're out. Yeah, 15 minutes. 15 minutes? Nobody else's thinking. The deal expires in 15? Done.
Starting point is 00:53:55 Wow. Off the table. And nobody else is, big time. Nobody else is even thinking of calling me for at least six weeks. Yeah. So I'm sitting there. I'm like, you got to be fucking shit in me. So I'm like, I'll call you back.
Starting point is 00:54:07 So clock's ticking. I call Ken Holland. Ken, I'd love to play for you. I'd love to play in Detroit. That'd be awesome. You know, original six. That'd be really cool. I haven't done that.
Starting point is 00:54:21 I loved playing in Joe Lewis Arena. I'm like, you know what I think you're head coach? I made that abundantly clear a year ago at your golf tournament. I'm like, does he want me on the team or not? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Mike. He wants you on the team. Are you sure, Ken? Yeah, I'm sure.
Starting point is 00:54:36 Give me his phone number. So I call Mike, Babs. Babs. This fucking guy. He answers. I haven't heard about this part. Oh, fuck. I don't know about the phone call.
Starting point is 00:54:47 So I got like now that I got 10 minutes left until this fucking thing expires. I'm like, he answers the phone. I go, hey, Mike, it's Mike Commodore. Oh, hey, call me. How you doing? I'm like, this is the phone. I'm like, call me. I'm like, my buddy's call me.
Starting point is 00:55:00 Yeah. I want to be like, fuck you. And I wish I would have now. I'm like, Mike, I'm like, do you want me on your hockey team or not? It's real simple. If you don't, please be honest with me and just tell me. and I'll roll the dice and I'll go somewhere else. No hard feelings.
Starting point is 00:55:19 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I want you on the team. We got no right-handed shot. We need somebody to play with Nick Lidsdrum, blah, blah, blah. I'm like, Babs, are you getting me on the hockey team to end my career? This is my last chance. I know it. You know it.
Starting point is 00:55:31 I'm like, I need to know I'm going to get a fair shake at playing. I'm not asking for anything special. I know I can still play. There's a couple defensemen you have in your team that I think I'm better than it, at least in my mind. I'm like, I need to know I'm going to get a fair shake. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You play with Nick. Again, Nick Lydstrom's, if not the best,
Starting point is 00:55:47 he's one of the best defensements ever play in the National Hockey League. I'm like, you're sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we need a physical presence, this and that. So hang up the phone, call my agent back up five minutes left. He's like, well, what do you think? Like, he's going to fuck me. He's going to fuck me for sure. He goes, well, what did he say?
Starting point is 00:56:05 So I say, well, yeah, I'm going to get a fair shake. Yeah, I'm going to play with Nick. He's like, Mike, you play with Nick Lidstrom. And I'm like, well, you know, for people that don't know. I know Nick Lidsstrom is, like I just said, one of the best defensements ever played the game. Literally, all I would have had to do every time I got the puck was go, hey, Nick, here you go, and give him the puck,
Starting point is 00:56:24 and I would have had 30 points. Now I'm back in the mix. Maybe I got another long-term deal. Like things are looking good. I'm going to make the playoffs. The team's sick. So I take Babs at his word. I'm like, all right, fine.
Starting point is 00:56:37 I talk to the guy. He told me I'm going to get a fair shake. So I signed the contract. Show up, the lightest I've ever. been, I'm like, I am going to show up in fucking shape. I actually went in August, a buddy of mine, kind of a side story, invited me from the first time
Starting point is 00:56:53 I ever to go to Europe, play the old course. So, a buddy that I went to college was, he goes, we need a guy. And I'm like, man, like my dad went there like 15 years ago. And the one thing I remember him telling me is you ever get the chance, don't say no. So I'm like, I'm coming, but I'm not drinking. He's like, what? I'm like, do we have, I have camp.
Starting point is 00:57:11 This is, I need to make sure I'm ready to roll. I'm like, I will have one beer after every round and then I'm going home. He goes, okay, we need a guy, let's go. So I had one beer after every round. I was going for runs. Yeah. I was running around seeing Andrews in the streets all around
Starting point is 00:57:27 there, show up to camp, the lightest I've ever been, get there, and right from the word fucking go, I was out. It was, you know, go through camp. I actually played some exhibition games. It was nice.
Starting point is 00:57:44 I tweaked my knee a little bit like I was out for like a week, kind of towards the end of camp. So I'd say like the first two, one or two games of the season, I probably couldn't play. So healthy scratch game one, healthy scratch game two. I'm ready to go. They lose game one. They lose game two. I'm ready to go. Scratch, scratch, scratch, scratch, scratch, scratch, scratch, scratch.
Starting point is 00:58:09 This shit goes all the way till mid-November. And the team is not doing well. I'm like, what the fuck is going on? So anyways, that was, and that ended up being, there's a little more in that too, but that ended up being the end of my career. I fucking knew it. I mean, the one thing I learned from that was
Starting point is 00:58:28 always trust your gut instinct. I didn't. I did, but then I didn't act on it. And that ended up being the end of it. Have you talked to them since, sorry. I just said it led to some legendary tweets. Yeah, the Twitter accounts were just the Babcock content. So the Twitter part, this is actually kind of a funny story.
Starting point is 00:58:46 So that happens, whatever. I'm done at the end of the year. I bang around a little bit in the American League the next year. Play in Russia for a year. I retire. I'm done. I get, so whatever season this is, whatever his first year, so Babs went from Detroit to Toronto.
Starting point is 00:59:06 Now he's the head coach in Toronto. So being the head coach in Toronto, if you wanted to put it in football terms, would be like, I don't know, what would be that big... Nick Sabin and Alabama. Sure. Like, New England, Bill Belichick.
Starting point is 00:59:18 Sure. Yeah, like, whatever the biggest, like... Job. The biggest job, yes. Biggest program. Every single day, what this guy loved is he loved nothing more than the cameras. Like, he would never...
Starting point is 00:59:29 I don't give a shit. He was never missing an interview. So in Toronto, when you're the head coach of the Maple Leafs, you are on TV. You're the dude. You are the man. Coast to coast, every single fucking day. I had to, that was one of the, I mean, I never actually said this.
Starting point is 00:59:45 It was one of the reasons why I came down here. I'm like, I can't go up to Canada. See this piece of shit on TV? I just retired. I'm moving. I'm like, I'll move out of the country before I've watched this. I'd be like, I'd be at a bar and I'd have to turn around man. I was, at the time I was bitter, I'm not anymore.
Starting point is 00:59:59 I could care less. Yeah, you seem like you're over it. Yeah. Where is that one of? Have you talked to them since that season? No. That's it. Done.
Starting point is 01:00:07 No, that's it. Haven't ran into them. If he called you, would you pick it up? Yeah. I'd pick it up. I don't have his number. Then what would you say? No,
Starting point is 01:00:15 kidding. It would be, I'd be hard pressed to not say, fuck you. Didn't he scratch Madonna on like 1499 career games and healthy scratch him? And he didn't get to 1500 ever. Is that correct? That is the bet.
Starting point is 01:00:27 So with this Twitter thing, I'll finish off the Twitter thing. Yeah, you're good. So the Twitter thing, I'm sitting, because I mean, people, I mean,
Starting point is 01:00:34 it did get a little out of control. But, so I'm sitting in, it's Mike Babcock's first year in Toronto. He's the head coach. Their first row game is, in Detroit, their home opener. It's a Friday night.
Starting point is 01:00:47 So Toronto is playing Detroit, Friday night in Detroit. Detroit, then the next day, Saturday night, is playing in Carolina for their home opener. The hurricanes fly me in to crank their hurricane siren for their home opener. Sick. So Friday night, I'm sitting at the bar. I'm waiting for one of the guys I used to play with.
Starting point is 01:01:04 I'm getting pretty banged up. Sitting there having a few cocktails. And I know the Toronto, Detroit, but to be honest, I really don't give a shit. I get a text message. Chris Chelyos, NHL legend. This guy is the man.
Starting point is 01:01:18 He was the man forever. Sends me a message. I'm sitting there at the bar by myself waiting for my buddy. He's like, Hey, Mike, he's like, Babes is, and Chris Chelios hates Mike Babcock. He's like, hey, Mike, Babs is back in Detroit. I'm like, yeah, I can see that.
Starting point is 01:01:34 He's like, you should rip him on Twitter. I'm like, I go, You think? Is that good? Really? He's like, Yeah, give it to them. So I remember sitting there at the bar, and I'm like, okay, I have a decision to make here.
Starting point is 01:01:48 I'm like, I need to be fine with it knowing that if I'm going to go off on fucking social media on any head coach, I need to know that I don't, I'm not looking for a job in hockey. I'm done. Yeah, it's over. Yeah, there's going to be people that don't know me. They're going to think this guy's an asshole, like whatever. I'm like, you know what? Fuck it.
Starting point is 01:02:07 I don't want a job in hockey anyways. So I go off from this tangent. I mean, I'm dying. I mean, I went a little too far, maybe. I mean, we'll be hit by a bus and all this kind of stuff. And I'm dying laughing at the bar. People at the bar thought I was fucking crazy. But anyway, he was laughing about it.
Starting point is 01:02:23 And there's money on the board. So for the game, so money on the board is like, I used to play in Calgary. Let's say I'm playing for Columbus. I come into Calgary. I'm like, yeah, you know what? I'll put up 500 bucks. Let's win the game.
Starting point is 01:02:35 If we win the game, I got 500 bucks. I put it in the team fine, fine. We use it for a party. Chalios also messaged me when he was telling me to rip him on Twitter. He's like, hey, you want to put money on the board? I'm like, yeah, I want to put money on the board. So he's like, how much? I'm like, well, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:02:50 I'm like, two grand. He's like, really? I'm like, yeah, fuck Babs. He's like, amen. So he sends me a picture of the board. So usually there's like three or four people. This shows how much this guy was hated. This whiteboard was like ceiling to floor.
Starting point is 01:03:04 There was everybody from almost all the players, the front office people. The fucking parking, fucking attendance. The ushers. I mean, there was everything from $2,000 to $10. Just to beat him. Beat him. So anyways, they end up winning the game. Next day they're in Carolina.
Starting point is 01:03:24 I'm hung over. I get a text message from one of the guys that he's like, they're like, hey, come over to team snack or whatever. I'm like, man, I'm like, I'm not in Detroit anymore. That's weird. They're like, no, no, no. The guys really want to see it come over. I'm like, all right, fine, I'll come over. So I come over.
Starting point is 01:03:37 This is right before they go to the rank. I walk in standing ovation That's awesome They read all the tweets They loved it That's the best So that kind of I might be throwing some people
Starting point is 01:03:48 Under the bus But fuck of that is how hated That guy is He is a Terrible human being Sooner or later I would assume That I would probably run into him
Starting point is 01:03:58 And honestly I don't We're gonna see if we can make that happen So that was like validation You ain't the only dude out here On this island And hates him It's across a board No so to get to
Starting point is 01:04:07 Mike Madanos thing sorry, I got a little sidetracked. When somebody asked, because it would always come up. That's a shitty move. I mean, God, that's unbelievable. 99.9% of the coaches. So, I mean, Mike Madano, he was hurt, and then he came back,
Starting point is 01:04:20 and there was like 12 games or something left, and he needed to play all of them to get to 1,500 on the nose. And it was going to be his last year. He played forever. And this is the story that I tell of it, because it's the quickest one to tell on what kind of person Babs is, is it was like game, like, with like, four games to go,
Starting point is 01:04:37 Babcock scratched him and his sole purpose was knowing that well if I scratch him here he's not going to get to 1500 and then that'll be the end I mean who the fuck does that To one of the best players
Starting point is 01:04:50 To a game that didn't even matter The game didn't matter They were in the playoffs They were in the playoffs The seatings were all set That's a joke so Mike's gotta hate him too I mean oh that's a just blatant One thousand four hundred and 99 games played
Starting point is 01:05:05 On his last year you know it's his last year Just let's prevent this guy from getting a huge milestone. I mean, he's a Michigan kid. Michigan kid. He comes home, plays a year at home. Like, maybe the best American to ever do it. Yeah, one of them for sure, yeah. Like literally 99.9% of coaches would have been like,
Starting point is 01:05:22 dude, if you're on a wheelchair, I'll trot you out there. Oh, yeah, I don't give a shit. Just literally get on the ice, but I'll yank you. Yeah. If your leg is broken, I don't care. You're dressing. Your skates are going to touch that ice for two seconds, and you're coming off. And I don't give a shit if you go to the room, you're getting a 1500.
Starting point is 01:05:36 Like a healthy running back two. two yards from the all-time rushing record. Like, nah, he ain't playing tonight. Like, dude, we could do this all day. God, I would love to do it all day. Honestly, you're coming back. You're coming back. We need to, we need a 12-segment series with the comedy.
Starting point is 01:05:49 Let's go to the emergency nine. I don't know if you've seen our show at all. Yeah, how do you? Yeah, yeah. We'll do it again. We'll do it again. Hour with you. You or me start.
Starting point is 01:05:58 How are we doing this? Go ahead. All right, I'll start it. We do this with everyone. I don't know if you've watched it, movie being made about the life of Mike Commodore, who do you want to play you? Go ahead and get you a little juice.
Starting point is 01:06:07 Any actor. A little thinking juice in your brain. Oh, man. Do you have one? I got one and I think it's nails, honestly. I'm interested to hear you. Yeah. It's hard for you.
Starting point is 01:06:14 It's hard for DA. There's no big monster dudes that can whoop after in Hollywood. Big, goofy, red-headed actors. Not many come up. You ain't. No, that's true. I was, oh, I was going to, two came to mind. Hugh Jackman, but that's not even close.
Starting point is 01:06:31 And I was going to go Will Ferrell. That's my, Will Ferrell from semi-Perel. He's already got the fro. There we go. Jackie Moon. That's a pretty good one. And he's funny. It's like you're funny.
Starting point is 01:06:40 I've got Damien Lewis, who's the actor from Billions. And the Redhead guy. Oh, yeah, yeah. The Red Hat dude in Billions. Yeah. I'm going to have to see it. You got to watch Billions. What's Homeland?
Starting point is 01:06:52 Have you seen Homeland? Yeah, he's the... I know what you're talking about it. He was the main dude like the first few seasons before. Was he in Band of Brothers? I don't know. Yes, he was. Now I know what you're talking about.
Starting point is 01:07:01 Yeah. Yeah. I got it now. Yeah. It's hard to find. There ain't many of you out there, bud. You know what I mean? It's true.
Starting point is 01:07:07 Test our producers. This one's going to require you to put your thinking cap on a little bit. Okay. Okay. I know you made a couple trips to Hawaii to play golf. First off, does the golf ball go further in Hawaii? No. Okay.
Starting point is 01:07:21 Well, there's rumor around around that you once hit a lob wedge from 188 yards and you flushed it. Oh. And it might have come up 100 yards short. Yeah. Yeah. I'm assuming that probably came from Mr. Max Homa. I'm sitting around.
Starting point is 01:07:35 I mean, I go through stretches of really bad golf. And this was terrible. In my defense, which isn't any defense, I had a reunion in North Dakota. Joe put this little thing together in Maui. I went right from this thing, had my club straight to Maui, which is an excuse.
Starting point is 01:07:52 I got in there, I'm like, just as Justin Thomas was winning the playoff. And I'm like, God, I hope these guys aren't home because I need to go to fucking bed. Walk in, they're all boozing. I'm like, oh, my God. So I had to rally. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:08:05 I'm like, oh, my God. I was hoping they'd be at a bar so I could just ignore their text messages. And it was, go out, we play golf the next day. Just hitting it. I actually chipped it and put it good. Thank God. But just hitting it like a true asshole. And finally, I'm riding with Ben Marsh.
Starting point is 01:08:23 I'm not even, I'm like, how far out? He's like 88. I'm like, yeah, sounds good. I'm like, nah, that's a lob wedge. And I'm like, kind of look at it. And I'm like, man, it's a little uphill. I'm like, I'll just have to step on it a little bit. I flush this thing right at the flag
Starting point is 01:08:36 It's nice and high I'm like oh man I got that I'm like sitting there posing I heard you said finally out loud Finally yeah finally It's right at it And then it lands at the bottom of the hill It was fucking 188 yards
Starting point is 01:08:47 Need to hit like a full six iron I love that you couldn't look And be like How in one do you got to beat To confuse 88 with what That's bad cadding That's not on yeah I was gonna say
Starting point is 01:08:57 Marsh is gonna do a better job Who's the worst caddy Ben Marsh or Joe Scobrin I was gonna ask that But that's sad just Yeah, I think when my guy is in one, you got a spell. You can't abbreviate shit. 88, a lot of guys will know that means 188.
Starting point is 01:09:09 But when you're coming off a bend. You might have to write it down for me. Yeah, you might have to write it down the right digit. Yeah, you might have to write it and tattoo it on your face. I did flush that way. All right, next one. I did flush that way. Just another lob wedge after that.
Starting point is 01:09:22 Yeah. Yeah. Just two lob wedged out one. A knife triple way to go Marsh. X. All right. Next one of the, this is a multiple choicer. Okay.
Starting point is 01:09:31 One of the following former N. Hockey players described your style of play as the following. He skates around like a chicken with his fucking head cut off. Okay. The options are harsh. I know. I didn't want to. Okay.
Starting point is 01:09:43 But it's all love. It's all. All right. Okay. Mike Madonna, A. B. Ray Whitney. Three Brendan Morrow.
Starting point is 01:09:51 Yeah, dude. Some legends too. God. Three heroes. I don't think Ray would say that about me. I'll help you. Ray will never say that. No,
Starting point is 01:10:00 it wasn't Ray. I will. Whiz would never say that about you. Morrow or. Madano. I'll go with moral. The correct answer is A. Mike Madano. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:11 And you're defending this goddamn guy. I've been defending him for five years. We'll edit all this shit. Go ahead and bash him now. He deserved that. He deserved that scratch. Oh, I love it. Should have scratched them more.
Starting point is 01:10:24 Exactly. Yeah. All right. Number four, we'll go back to the golf real quick. Which PGA tour player do you think most closely resembles your golf swing? Hmm. Who's got the worst? swing on tour.
Starting point is 01:10:35 Well, when I saw the other day, you got a little Hedecki going on. Yeah, I've been called. Yeah. Tell us about that. Man, it just happened. Dude, it literally looks like your TV freezes at the top.
Starting point is 01:10:46 You woke up one day and you got the pause now? Well, I'm trying to, I'm trying to, I'm trying to, I'm trying not to have a full collapse of top. That's what I got, I mean, I got other things going on, I'm sure. So I'm trying to like, in my head, bring it back. Nice, you know, tempo, all this shit. And I'm trying to bring it back.
Starting point is 01:11:04 and then I'm supposed to load it and go, except when I bring it back, sometimes it feels all fucked up. Or maybe it's in a good spot, but I'm not used to, it's usually in my shitty spot. It's normally in a worse spot. Yeah, so then I'm like loading it,
Starting point is 01:11:16 loading it and I go to go and now it's Mike Matsu yam. Oh my God, dude. All hell breaks loose. I just hit it and I'm just like, oh my God. So yeah, Mike Matsuyama. Mike Matsuyama. You got the Shrix on you? You just woke up with it one day, huh?
Starting point is 01:11:29 Just woke up and like, now I got a pause. I didn't have it today, I don't think. No, okay. Come back any time. Maybe it's lit or miss. I'm in a rough place right now. You'll be fine. You're the triple champ.
Starting point is 01:11:38 I'll figure out of nothing. Your golf game will be fine. All right, next question. Softer group of athletes collectively. PGA players, NBA players, MLB players. Who's the softest? NBA. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:55 I figured that's what I don't know if there was a correct answer to that question. Well, no, it's very subjective. You can go with anything. But I feel like hockey guys collectively bang on NBA guys. When they win the, when they win the title, they're all wearing goggles and stuff. when you guys win. You're just drinking it, just shooting it into your veins.
Starting point is 01:12:10 Yeah, yeah, I'm not a, like I like college basketball. That NBA, I'll tell you what. I've had it with that. I'm out.
Starting point is 01:12:18 Those guys are soft. Some of their comments are just, man, the money those guys make, too. Oh, God. Dude, 228 million.
Starting point is 01:12:25 You get 20 mil a year right now if you can dribble and chew gum. It's unbelievable. They're just handing them out. You might want to make a run at that. Ray, text me after the NBA playoffs last year,
Starting point is 01:12:33 he goes, you know any of those pussies. You tell them, We don't wear goggles when we spray champagne. The goggles. The goggles drive the NHL guys crazy. Crazy. Yeah, nobody, I mean, you're not wearing.
Starting point is 01:12:43 You'd rather be caught wearing a skirt than wearing some goggles, wouldn't you? We're in those Oakley, like, snowboarding goggles. Yeah, get over it, dude. Get into it here. You're a champion. That's what triple champs get that. All right, next question. Okay, you had some legendary battles with Colton Ore.
Starting point is 01:12:57 I don't know how many of them went your way. The early ones did, and it went sideways, yeah. But also after hockey, you took a real job. We had to deal with a little bit of, you know, real business, computers, stuff like that. Oh, fuck. So what hurts your head more? A punch from Coltonor or Microsoft Excel? Microsoft Excel is not as close.
Starting point is 01:13:15 I would pay money to watch you. Rocked me a couple of times and that does not feel good. But I would rather take my chances with a good flurry of rights or less, whatever he wants to throw from Coltonor than with that fucking Microsoft Excel. What job were you doing where you needed to learn Microsoft? I would pay good money to sit there and watch Mike Common or learn Microsoft Excel. I never had a computer in college. I was the director of sales and marketing for a telecom construction company. I had to do quotes.
Starting point is 01:13:49 And I mean this shit was fucking painful. The guy's working in the field coming and I'm like, I'm ready to smash this fucking thing. And they're like, what are you doing? I'm like, I can't figure out how to get that number into here. And then it adds up all wrong or it goes. X, you know, like, oh, I got me doing this right, and then you get some. All the little pound signs. Oh, so good.
Starting point is 01:14:10 And boss come on. Oh, just hit this. I'm like, what? Which of these two most accurately describes Mike Commodore the person? Lovable giant or international sex icon? Well, I know what I'd like to say. Yeah, it's your question. Yeah, I would have to say lovable giant.
Starting point is 01:14:29 As much as I would like to be an international sex icon. The fro and the robe, you don't think that move you up. Well, back in the day? Yeah, dude. I mean, I should. I mean, I could. Oh, my legacy? Your legacy, yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:39 Yeah, I had a little something going on there for a little while. I could still grow back too if I had to. I don't know why you don't. You put a visor on that with all the flow? This high and tight shit ain't working. I mean, you still look good, but thank you. I appreciate that.
Starting point is 01:14:53 I don't know. I need to back it up to the glory days a little bit. Relive that a little bit. You know what I mean? Back on the market. I'm single. Get after. It's time to get after it around here.
Starting point is 01:15:03 Get in one, bud. All right. number eight a lot of athletes struggle once they retire from their sport finding something to keep them occupied sure you transitioned very easily you took a job with uber okay first off tell us how the hell did this happen okay and second what's the best and worst part of the job okay how it happened was i joined wisparok uh freshly retired for the first time in my life i nobody i had nowhere to be and nobody gave a shit what i was doing like literally nobody So I go up, I'm like, oh, yeah, go play some golf.
Starting point is 01:15:38 So I was literally at the golf course every single day. So I didn't know a whole lot of people around here. So I'm at the golf course every single day and be like a Tuesday. Be like, somebody, I'd be playing, hey, you want to drink? Be like, I got nothing to do. Yeah, what the hell? Yep. So for about six weeks there, I mean, it would be fair to say that I was loaded for a good, good portion of it.
Starting point is 01:16:01 And after six weeks, I was back at my place and I'm like, Holy fuck. I feel terrible. I had some bullshit membership at some gym, lifetime fitness. I walked in there twice and hadn't even touched anything. I'm like, I'm going to the golf course. And I sat there and I'm like, this is going down the wrong road. I'm like, I need to clean this up right now.
Starting point is 01:16:23 So I was looking for something to do. I was single. And I'm like, well, I need something to do. I don't want to sit at home. I want to be out. But what can I do that gets me out of the house, but that keeps me out of the bars? So I was like, why don't I drive for Uber?
Starting point is 01:16:38 I can't drink. If I drink, I'm going to end up in a tent and end up in jail. But I still get out. I can still meet people and do some things like that. So that's how I ended up getting into it for. I think I did it about four, five evenings. I tried to do like a four five evenings. That's not a current.
Starting point is 01:16:55 I thought you went for way longer. I thought you were doing it for months, a couple months. No, no, no, no. Just a few nights. 70 or 80 rides was enough. I figured it out. I tried to do like happy hours. I'm like, I'm not working the graveyard ship.
Starting point is 01:17:07 Like the last thing I wanted was having like four drunk hammered dudes in my car giving it to me. And like, that's it. Did anyone got in there know who you were? That you could kill them in 10 seconds if need be? No, nobody knew who I was. I had a couple. I ended up picking up. I touched on Doug Waite earlier.
Starting point is 01:17:26 Yeah. I went and picked up. So I got a request. So, well, and to finish off that, I'm single. So I'm like, well, I'd like to meet some girls too. So like for a while when I joined Uber, it'd be like, so when the phone would buzz, it would, you would just have how long away the pickup was. So if it was like five minutes, 10 minutes to go get them, then you accept the ride and then it'd be a name. So for when I first started, I'd be like, okay, accept the ride.
Starting point is 01:17:54 Oh, Jimmy? I'm like, fuck Jimmy. Ignore. But you can only do that like three or four times in a row. Priscilla? I'm on the way. I'm like, oh, Susie, here I come. But if you hit ignore, like three or four times in a row, your account gets suspended.
Starting point is 01:18:12 You can't drive for like 30 minutes. So I'm like, God, yeah, you can't just pick and choose. So I have to drive around. So I went. Here I go. Here I go. Your chariot. And so the couple times that I had, I'd say the funniest ones were probably I went to pick up a group of people in the Paradise Valley.
Starting point is 01:18:31 And so like, you know, they have the two-minute thing where you can leave after. I'm like, man, I got nothing to do, whatever. So go there, sit there. I sit outside for five, ten minutes or whatever. And it ended up being a group of, it would be teenagers. It was like, I think there was too many people, to be honest. But I'm like, whatever, get in. It was just taking them down the street.
Starting point is 01:18:50 And a young girl got in the car. And she's like, oh, she's like, you know, hey, Mike, this. I forget what her name is. And she's like, well, what are you doing this? And anyways, somehow it ended up. I'm like, well, I'm like, yeah, I kind of doing this on the side. I used to play ice hockey. She's like, oh, my uncle plays ice hockey.
Starting point is 01:19:09 I'm like, oh, really? I'm like, who's that? He's like, Doug Wade. And I played with Doug. I wanted Stanley Cup with Doug. I'm like, oh, really? I'm like, well, next time he talked to Doug, why don't you tell him Mike Commodore picked you up?
Starting point is 01:19:20 And she's kind of confused, right? She has no clue. And she's like, well, I'm like, I want a Stanley Cup with your uncle. She's like, no way. I'm like, call him. So I called Doug, but he was coaching the island. Islanders then. He didn't answer the phone because he was literally on the bench. And then the other time I would say was kind of funny was I picked up like these four people, three people. They were going for groceries and I picked him up there from Columbus, Ohio, where I played in Columbus for three years. And so same kind of thing, just bullshit. And like, I was a good driver. If nobody wanted to talk, I didn't say anything. If they wanted bullshit, I'd bullshit. It's the right way. Yeah. And they were, I'm like, oh, yeah, I'm like, oh, yeah, I'm like, oh, yeah, I'm like, what would you do there? And I'm like, well, I actually. played ice hockey there.
Starting point is 01:20:02 And they're like, oh, for who? I'm like, wow, the blue jackets. And I could see them in the rearview mirror, the two people. They're, like, looking at each other, like, yeah, our Uber driver thinks he plays in the league. And so they're like, oh, yeah, they're trying not to laugh. And I can see it in the rearview mirror. And they're like, oh, so you know Rick Nash?
Starting point is 01:20:20 I'm like, yeah, I actually know Rick Nash very well. And they started going through the lineup. I'm like, look, I could do this all day, or you could just Google my fucking name. I'm not lying to you here. And we had a good laugh. I took him to save way, outside and took them home. Do you get any good tips? Oh, it's so good, dude.
Starting point is 01:20:34 Are people cheap these days? What was your rating? My rating was pretty high. Were you five? If someone gave you a two, are you going to pull their sweater over their head and break their face? Yeah. A three? I think I was like a four point eight or nine. That's solid. Yeah, it was solid. Lovable giant. Yeah, it was it was all it was all right. My last ride, the one that was like, okay, that's that's enough was I did it on Halloween, which was stupid. but stupid, but I thought I did it early enough where I would avoid the people being really, really wasted. And so I was filling up on Frank Lloyd Wright and phone buzzed.
Starting point is 01:21:12 I'm like, ah, what the hell? One more. Some dude named Phil. I'm like, all right. It's only like three minutes away. I'll go pick fucking fill up. So I pull into his neighborhood. I sit outside there.
Starting point is 01:21:25 He comes out. He's hammered. I'm like, hey, man. He's like, I will be right out. I go, yeah, sounds good. Take your time. So he comes out, it ended up being two couples, and the two guys have a girl between them.
Starting point is 01:21:36 I mean, it's like when they haul somebody off the football field after they just got like a major concussion. Oh, boy. I mean, this girl can't walk. Like, she's out of it. And so coming up to the car, I'm like, okay, it's time to put my foot down. So Phil's having a real good time here. It ain't his girlfriend that's passed out.
Starting point is 01:21:54 It's the other guys. And he thinks this is funny. He gets in the front seat. He's like, oh, yeah, we'll put her in the middle. hopefully she doesn't puke in your car. I'm like, hey, Phil, I'm going to make this real, real simple for you. I go, I'm not holding her responsible.
Starting point is 01:22:07 I'm holding you responsible. If this girl pukes in my car, I'm going to pull you outside and kick the shit out of you. And he looks at me, I go, Phil, I'm not fucking around here. And he goes, okay. So she gets in, finally to get into the car. So the guy's in the front, the two girls are in the back, the waist of girls in the middle.
Starting point is 01:22:26 Literally the door's closed. She starts screaming, I'm going to piss my pants. I'm like, Phil! Phil! Phil, it was like, I'm all this. Your face, dude. It's about to be a little. I'm going to erase your whole face.
Starting point is 01:22:38 Peas right in the middle of the street. I'm like, Jesus Christ, it's like 7 o'clock at night here. I'm like, Jesus Christ, they get back in the car, the door is closed. She starts screaming about her dad mistreating her. I'm like, oh my God, it was like a four-minute mile drive. I fucking floored it. I'm like, Phil, and she started. yelling. I'm like, Phil, about puking again.
Starting point is 01:23:02 And Phil's like, come on and I'm on it. And pulled in, got her out of the car. Phil's like, I'm like, good job, Phil. Gave me knuckles. And that was it. That was the last one for me. I'm a goddamn Stanley Cup champion. I don't need to worry about Phil's friend's girlfriend pissing in my pestling.
Starting point is 01:23:18 I got a. Oh my God. That is too good. Oh my God. That was it. I don't want it to end. What else? I don't want it to do.
Starting point is 01:23:29 We only got one. I don't want it to stop. All right. Last question. Okay. Last question. We should just do two hours of Uber with Kami. The best show to ever be on the internet.
Starting point is 01:23:39 Never got late to me. Oh, this fucking Phil. I'm crying. I'll never forget Phil. He came through. I got to hand it to him. Phil ended your career, dude. Like Babcock.
Starting point is 01:23:48 Phil is kind of Babcock. He's your Uber Babcock. I'll tell you what Phil treated with me a lot more respect to Babbs. Yeah. You had his attention. Oh, yeah. Hey, Phil. I'm holding.
Starting point is 01:23:57 Phil was in one. And one little threat. Phil. He got his eyes straightened out. He's like, oh shit. Okay. And he got it together. Do not keep in this car.
Starting point is 01:24:06 Go to number nine. Last question. All right. I feel like we should end there, but whatever. All right. All right. Last question. You can either have $200,000 cash money in your pocket right now.
Starting point is 01:24:16 Okay. Or you get to kick Mike Babcock in the nuts as hard as you can. What do you take? I kick babs in the nuts. Yeah, dude. That's the right answer. 200, thou is temporary kicking the nuts. Nuts shots forever.
Starting point is 01:24:28 Oh, forever. Forever. $300,000. You blow through that. That's a couple nights of Uber, dude. That's a couple of pupe fees. That's a couple weekends at Whisper Rock right there with some buddies. Yeah, no, I'd kick Babs in the balls for sure.
Starting point is 01:24:41 Awesome. What do I did? I would prefer to do that right after I just knocked him right out. Oh, I'd love to. I wouldn't kick him in the balls first if it was up. No, drag it out. Oh, I'd like to just string him out and feed him his fucking lunch. And then when he's down on the ground, then I'd like to,
Starting point is 01:24:59 kick him in the balls. Oh, my God. I believe it, and I love you. Ladies and gentlemen, the one, the only, Mike Commodore, that was an absolute blast, my man. Thank you so much. The triple champ. Oh, God, what a time.
Starting point is 01:25:12 Well, Slees, I think it's safe to say we want Mike Commodore to come back and sit in the chair. Oh, my God. We could probably work his face right in the middle of this logo right here if he'd be up for. That dude is as entertaining as it possibly. Dude, the Babcock stories.
Starting point is 01:25:25 We'd known about it. I think a lot of the world knows about it if you follow him on Twitter, but actually getting the reason why, he hates him. I'm on board, dude. I would hate the guy. I think I'm actually now absolutely on the same team as Kami. Forget that guy for doing what he did to Kami. Absolutely blackballed our guy out of the league. Yeah, and Mike Madano. I mean, what he did to Mike Madano. It's absolutely brutal. But Kami, what a beauty. I mean, the Babcock stories are legendary. How about the trip going over to the British Open and walking with Ricky thinking, he's like, oh my God, I'm going to
Starting point is 01:25:52 witness Ricky went in the British Open and I'm going to be at all these majors from now on. He put the voodoo hex on him. The one thing that could slow Rick down. Fist and warm whiskey. Double fist and Kami on the T. What a legend. By the way, I mean, how do you just, is there anything better than having Mike Commodore pick you up in an Uber? That's, I mean, I think we could have done an hour and a half just on Uber stories.
Starting point is 01:26:11 We only got into a handful of them there and they were tens. But yeah, Tommy picking you up in the Uber. I think he was driving an escalate or something at the time. Yeah. He was like, what is? And then he tells you, I used to play pro hockey. Okay, bud. Yeah, good one.
Starting point is 01:26:21 Yeah. Yeah. I used to be in the league. Yeah. But how about if you're, that guy, Phil, and you request an Uber from now and it ever pops up, Mike is picking you up. Not doing that. Nope, don't want it.
Starting point is 01:26:31 Oh, man, but we can't thank Tommy enough. We are going to have him back because trust me, there are more stories. I was out with him the other night. He told a couple more about playing in the H.L. And I, once again, was crying, laughing at the bar. I think we need an entire, like, a podcast series. We'd be, like, six, and we release him like a Netflix just with Tommy, where he just tells a couple stories each time.
Starting point is 01:26:48 I mean, the guy's like 10. That was so fun having him in there, and we will absolutely have him back. Yes, we will. Can't thank him enough. And we are going to do it again. I hope you all enjoyed it. I know we did, as you could tell, as we were laughing. for the whole hour of this of this show.
Starting point is 01:27:01 But that's going to do it for us this week. We'll talk to y'all next week's golf subpar.

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