Subpar - Mike Tirico Interview: What Tour pro has taken issue with his coverage, hosting the Olympic Games

Episode Date: August 2, 2022

On this week's episode of GOLF's Subpar, NBC sportscaster Mike Tirico joins former PGA Tour pro Colt Knost and jicky jack legend Drew Stoltz for an exclusive interview from the Rocket Mortgage Classic. The Syracuse alumnus talks hosting the Olympics and the Super Bowl in the same week, his favorite broadcasting catch phrase and which Tour player has taken issue with his coverage.   Subpar Podcast: https://linktr.ee/Golf1271 Birdie Juice Merch: https://proshop.golf.com/collections/birdie-juice-collection -- Thanks to our official sponsor Dewar's. Make sure to check out their Reserve Bar listings today: https://www.reservebar.com/collections/house-of-dewars    This week's episode is presented by FanDuel Sportsbook. If you've never tried FanDuel Sportsbook, what are you waiting for? Go to https://www.fanduel.com/subpar or download the FanDuel Sportsbook app to get started. Be sure to sign up with promo code SUBPAR so they know we sent you. Disclaimer: 21+ and present in AZ, CO, CT, IA, IL, NJ, NY, or WY. 1st online real money wager only. $10 first deposit required. Bonus issued as non-withdrawable site credit that expires 14 days after receipt. Restrictions apply. See full terms at sportsbook.fanduel.com. Gambling Problem? Call 1-800-NEXT-STEP or text NEXTSTEP to 53342 (AZ), Call 1-800-522-4700 (CO), 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-GAMBLER or visit FanDuel.com/RG (NJ, IA, IL), 1-877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY(467369) (NY), or 1-800-522-4700 (WY).

Hello world. Welcome back to golf subpar. Colt Nost Andrew Stoltz coming off the Rocket Mortgage Classic, where Tony Vee now, where he be now, once in the winner's circle again, back to back weeks. Just a dominating performance from start to finish. He's ended up winning by five up in Detroit. How about the kid right now? Just coming in and doubling up his total wins on the PJ tour in the matter of about seven days span from eight days, seven Sunday to Sunday. Dude, he's fun to watch right now. I mean, it's like we've been talking about for so long. we know when the ball striking's been there, Teter Green, he was spectacular. It led the field this week. And then the putter, all of a sudden, whatever he's done, he's the guy that tinkers a lot with

that putter. We've seen a lot of different grips, lie angles, things like that. Whatever he's got going right now is working because he was 15th in strokes gained putting. When you hit it the way he does, you don't need to be the world's greatest putter. But, Colt, we were talking about it earlier today. Like, not only was he making putts that maybe historically in the past on the weekend, haven't gone in.

He was making those. But even the puts he misses, like they're looking like they're going in. You're watching until the entire. for the entire time. They're just burning the low side or they're just high or things like that. Like that's what good putters do. They don't make everything,

but their putts look like they're going in for a long, long time. And Tony's doing that right now. And it's a problem if he gets that thing going because the ball striking is ridiculous. Listen, I was able to share the final group

with Doddy Pepper on Sunday. And so I got to see it up close and personal. And it is something special right now. He is flushing it, driving it like Fred Funk, but 50 yards longer, which is a nice thing to have. But man,

it is cool. You can tell he's just oozing with confidence. He's carrying himself like a champion. He knows he's back to being one of the best players in the world. And I can't wait to see what he does in the FedEx Cup playoffs. I'm so, I mean, he's the nicest guy out there. It's hard not to root for Tony Fee now. That crowd in Detroit was behind him. They were loving every minute of it. They were, that place was jammed. It was so cool coming down the stretch, seeing them cheer on Tony Fee now. Yeah, dude, his interview after the round was awesome. Dehrum say that. He got to be there with his family and his kids and all that up to seventh on the FedEx Cup now and I mean dude it wasn't too long ago I think you got you can rewind back to May and he only had two top tens on the year and one of

those being at the hero with the limited field like it was kind of like where's tony why why aren't we seen the Tony we we've seen for a long time then now all of a sudden bang bang and it just looks like when he's standing over the ball on the greens like there's confidence there for the first time even the pace in which his pusser going in it's not like he's scared of having a comeback or anything like that. He's he's speaking at a nice time coming into the FedEx Cup looking to add about 15 mil to that bank account. I think, I mean, the hero doesn't count as an official top 10, but that was his only one leading until the Mexican open. He was because I was all talking about how he averages eight top tens a year and he hadn't had any until Mexico and then he's gone on an

absolute tear since then. But man, it's like you said, if the putter gets going, look out. It is going to be something special to watch. I'm interested to see what he does in these playoffs. so if he can continue. If he continues playing this way and putting himself in position every week, he can definitely, you know, contend for that FedEx Cup title here in a few weeks. But Sleez, you were up in Detroit.

You got out safely. I'm lucky to get out safely. Saturday we had to the all set on the 15th green there, the par three myself, and Amanda Renner, Max Homo is kind enough to join us. I took a little shot at the Detroit Lions. I like this. They have their 3-13 program up there

where they make a 3 on 14, a 1 on 15, and a 3 on 16, which happens to be the area code there in Detroit. you know a bunch of money gets donated to charity i said i'll be honest when i first saw the three one three i thought it was three and thirteen the detroit lion's record pretty much every single year some people all six of their fans didn't really take too kindly to that so i was uh getting heckled a little bit walking down the fairways there on sunday but it was still it was just all out of joke it was just a joke it was a lot of fun we're allowed to joke around on tv occasionally i don't know

if people know that but luckily i made it out of their live one gentleman did yell at me walking down the first fairway Sunday goes fuck you colt we're going to win more than three games this year i said cool buddy good luck to you enjoy we're getting an extra crack you get 17 games now so uh yeah good luck to you they're coming up by the way on hard knocks coming in a very short order i cannot wait football season officially back but i mean what are you going to do even the most diehard line fans are probably like yep fuck we don't win a whole lot there's a reason they're saying is restore the roar you don't restore the roar if you're any good it's They need to be restored.

It just stays. Yeah. They could use some bro. Shout out Detroit. It was a lot of fun. You welcomed us with open arms. We had a blast up there with Fandle doing a bunch of interviews, one of them, which is our episode this week in Mike Tariot, Toriko.

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So here's the great blended scotch whiskey and a golf, a perfect combination. Enjoy responsibly. it is now time for the doers cheers moment of the week and sleaze i'm just going to be honest for me this week it's we're spending too much time together cheers to that because recently i you know i'm confident in saying this i'm not ashamed of it but you're in my dreams and this is starting it's good to get terrified i'd be more concerned if i wasn't in your dreams you have my full attention on this though right now proceed i think there's a reason why i found i sleep so shitty it's because you're in my dreams that's it dude

It's hard to not get fired up when the kids slides in there. But this one in particular, I don't really remember my dreams very often. For some reason, I just woke up laughing. And I remembered the dream from the night before. So believe it or not, you were actually playing the Byron Nelson, the AT&T, Byron Nelson on the PGA tour. I am on the golf course commentating as I usually do. Well, you Sleys were in the lead by five with two holes to play.

You were dominating the whole week. I'm following your group. I'm like, my God. This is the worst thing that could possibly. possibly happen for the game of golf. This is not good. Somebody's got to do something. Speed, get your ass in gear. If Slees wins, I mean, this, this is worse than golf or live. It's just not going to be good. So we get to 16. You got a five shot lead. You're getting ready to tap in. All of a sudden, I wake up. And I'm like, oh, thank God. This shit isn't real. This is right.

I'm going to give it a little laugh and then I'm going to go back to sleep. But congratulations. If I do sleep well again and I can finish that dream off, I'll let you know. But you had a five shot lead with two to play bud you're like a little joseph and the amazing technical or dream code dude your dreams are prophecies you know what i mean you're seeing what could happen shout out to anybody at byron nelson if you want the kid to come in there put that thing to real life five i think five's like honestly if i get clicking col you seem to me get clicking i don't know anybody can stay within six of me personally but uh it does suck that you didn't get to see me get all the way to the winter circle i would have finished bird triple uh probably win by four or five

you know what i mean that's the way i like hey a win's a win but the fact that i'm in those dreams and I'm in your subconscious. It's terrifying. Damn, I love that. I'll give you my moment of the week. You're here for this one as well, speaking of how much time we're spending together. All right, we get up there. It was Monday night in Detroit.

We're staying at the same hotel. So we go down to the bar. We're going to have a couple cocktails, go out, do what we do. We walk down there. Who's sitting at the bar? Kiz, our boy Kevin Kisner and the Seagull, Cahoole. Charlie Hoffman is there. So hey, hey, boys, we walk over, having a couple drinks, talking to him.

And there's this dude standing a few feet away. right i know he's kind of like lurking or whatever he's talking it seems like a nice guy but he hasn't said anything and he comes over just in the middle of the conversation and he's like excuse me that looks a lot like charlie hoffman and we're like yeah sure enough but that's the man himself and he's like wow charlie hoffin huge fan dude love you but yeah yeah we call him the seagull around here call him the sea goal we start doing the kaka and all that stuff but meanwhile kiz is sitting right next to him dude doesn't even look his way doesn't acknowledge him has no earthly idea who Kevin Kisner was. It was all Charlie Hoffman all the time with this dude. I'm looking at

kids just smiling. I was like, he's got no idea. There's kids right here too. He's obviously a golf fan if he knows who Hoffman was. And then Hoffman stood up. He's like, wow, you're a lot bigger than I thought you were. We should have given him Charlie's room number. Oh, shit. He's in 312 and you can know, and here's his phone number. I'm going to send it to you right now. So anyway, I love that. I was like, kids getting no love from the dude right here. It was all Hoffman all the time. Moment of the week for me. I really enjoyed it. He's even, he's even, he's uglier in person, isn't he? Yeah, wow, you're way less shitty-looking in person.

I love it. Well, that's our doers' cheers moment of the week. And by the way, you happen to check this new lid I got out right here if you're having to be watching on YouTube. Fresh birdie juice. We've got all kinds of new colors. We even got a gravy bird hat. We got some hats with both the birds on it with American flags draped over it. Just gorgeous stuff.

Make sure you go to the golf.com pro shop and pick some up. And Sleaze, our guest this week. I mean, this might have been the easiest interview we have ever done. I mean, when you got a guy who's a legendary broadcaster who's used to interviewing people, you really don't need to prepare it all. You just sit down, you talk, you bullshit, and that's exactly what we did with the great Mike Tariko. It's one of my favorite interviews we've ever done. I would echo that 100%.

I think it's one of my favorite ones we've ever done. Being the broadcaster, a guy that's used to asking the questions, he does interviews. Like, he turns it around and starts asking us go, like, hey, hey, no, no, no, this is not how it works. But we will do the question asking here. but is there an easier guy to talk to in the planet? I mean, we got off course times. We started going around and we talked about a lot of different shit. I think at one point we're like, what are we even talking about here?

Let's get back to it. But dude, he sat there. He gave us, what, an hour at least of his time. When I asked me, dude, he was all the way in. They don't get any better than Mike, dude. He's awesome. We were getting ready to go on air on Thursday. I chimed in and said, Mike, you sound a little nervous.

I know this is a big deal. This is your hometown event and all. I was like, just remember everything. Sleez and I taught you during the podcast today. You're going to be fine. Yep. I thought he took that to heart too, Colt. He really, really started to loosen up as the day went on.

You could tell the nerves started to settle a bit. All right. Well, here it is. Mike Tariko on golf subpar. Boy, oh, boy, do we have a treat here today? If you have ever turned on a television in the history of your life, you know this man coming here today. He calls every sport under the sun, never takes a week off.

Probably the most versatile man in sports entertainment. Mike Tariko, good to be with you, bud. Who's the guest on the show today? Nancy is coming in in a minute. Oh, good. Okay, you have great. See you, boys. Welcome to Michigan.

Welcome to our state. Thanks for saying hi. It's awkward. It's good to have you in our state. It's fun. It's always good to be here. I mean, the Rocket Mortgage, we're out here. Detroit Golf Club.

Beautiful place. Beautiful weather. How excited do you get for like a week like this? I mean, this is a home game for you technically. I get very excited to stay at home. Yeah. You know, it's somebody, somebody had a joke once. I can tell off color stories here.

Of course you. This is as loose as a goose. Okay, good. Somebody said once about. the Champions Tour, then it was the senior tour. It's a guy who didn't like being at home. He said, happiness is having a plastic key in your pocket. There you go.

You got to be the happiest dude in the world. I don't like that. I like being home. I like knowing the code to get in the house. It's fun to be home. And it's good to see golf of Michigan. Buick Open was at Warwick Hills up in Grand Blank, about 50 miles north of Detroit forever, like 45 years.

So it's really nice that this is the fourth year to have it back. And to have one in the city, I think this is the most urban event on the PGA tour. It's within the city limits. It's a very diverse city. I think the gallery you see here is that truly diverse gallery that the PGA tour and all sports entities want to see more of. They want to see a audience, people in person that look like America. And I think you see that more here than at any other event. I would agree with that. And by the way, you mentioned the Lubeke Open Flint, Michigan. My rookie year was last year that term it happened. Oh. My God, I love

that place. I miss that. I mean, oh. Can we get that back? Will Zellatorz probably said it close. Shut up, Will. We're trying to freaking interview to Rico. Call someone. Tiger played a couple of years because it was the Buick open and Tiger was a guy early on at Buick on his bag.

Man, there were people shoehorned into that place. Tight, narrow place. There was a mini Phoenix open. People everywhere. It was really cool. Fantastic. Eight Cazillion under. It was a good stuff.

By the way, I don't know where they come from. Nice scenery there around Flint, Michigan. It's a great state, man. I was like, man. This is the hard land. These are good people here. great people here. We had a good time in Detroit, downtown the other night. That's fun. There's a lot of stuff going on down there. But you're talking about happiness

is a plastic key in your car. I want to go back to that for a second. As a guy that works everything, how many weeks of year are you home? You know, it's not that bad. I'm probably on the road, you know, 35-ish, maybe 30 to 35, depending on the year. Like an Olympic year is a mess. But you know that now. I mean, 30-35 is a lot. Life on the road is hard. Look, it's tour pro-life. I always tell people that we do work weekends we work Christmas and Thanksgiving and all those holidays it's kind of the downside of the job the great side of the job is you don't have to go to the office you work at home before everybody worked at home you get to be around your family during the week and get to see them and it's just a trade-off like life's a series of trade-offs and if that's our trade-offs to do a job that you

love and see amazing athletes the best in the world different sports man like you're getting paid to talk about sports I mean exactly how it doesn't get much good it's really good And it's been fun. I had to stop the thing about it the other day. I've been doing this now for 32 years on network TV. I started ESPN in 1991. I'm freaking old. But man, have I seen some great athletes and got to meet really cool people?

Are you nervous right now on here with all these lights and shit? I'm not nervous by you. Just be you. No. Who's become, you know. Oh, my God. He's vice captain of the Rider. The Rider Cup, dude.

Multimedia. It's radio. It's pod. It's TV. It's web, it's satellite rates a lot. Just be yourself. Picture them naked. No, no, no, no.

Don't do that. I want to, people are watching us. I don't want to do that. By the way, I'll never forget. I remember your start at ESPN. I was six. It was great. Thanks, thanks.

But let's do go back to that. You said, what, 32 years? I mean, you're a Syracuse guy. Shout out Syracuse. They produced all the greats. But you're Mike Tariko, the guy on everything. Now, give me your first on-air gig you ever did. Anything?

Not just... The first time you got in front of a camera, a microphone and people are listening. The first I got up the microphone, I was doing sportscast in the college radio station in Syracuse, 1885, and then the first football game I broadcast was September of 1985. Syracuse played at Virginia Tech. So I've been calling a ball moving and people listening to it for like 36 or 37 years. That Syracuse Radio is, I mean, it's like the Hall of Fame of people coming through.

That's why I included in the experience of being on the air because people listen to the college station because a lot of folks wanted to hear the next guy who they thought would go on, like Bob Costas worked there, Dick Stockton worked there, Marf Albert worked there, Ted Cople, who did Nightline, which may have been after you were born. The great Sean McDonough. I'll get to that page in the ass in a minute. Sean McDone would dearly love.

Dan Horde, who's the voice of the Cincinnati Bengals, Dave Pash, Iron Eagle. It's a whole mess of us. Jason Benetti is now doing great stuff at a bunch of different networks, so on and so forth. We got a ton of people, but, It was a great place because you went someplace where everybody else was good. So you got to figure out right away if you could do this or not. It's like going to play golf at one of those great programs, you know, out of Texas or a wake or the programs where you know, okay, one or two of these guys likely going to be a really good pro.

You got to measure yourself against the best, and that was a great place to get started for me. At what age did you know, like, this is what I want to do. This is really embarrassing. I was like a little kid. Really? My mom will tell you that I would run around pretending to be an announcer and talking to my... I love that fist, a hand. Like, hey, hi, I'm Mike, I'm here.

Does she have any of those clips? No, she doesn't. Okay, well, thank God. Thank God. Unable to, unable to bring those out. Yeah, drop that down. Yeah, find that. No.

It would be like Tiger's swing on the whatever show he went on. So speaking of that, did you, you guys have seen the Rory on the. Yeah. We showed it on the office. We showed it on the opus. Yeah, it was so dang cool. Chipping into his mom's washing machine. That was really neat.

How'd that never get out till then? I was like, you feel like this would be like Tigers's clip. I had seen it once, but I hadn't seen it in years. It is such a good clip. And to hear him, I forgot him talking about it. To hear Rory at nine years old talking is just with that little kind of lilt in his voice. And it was just really, really, really nice. Looks the exact same, except now he's got muscles.

And the deal was he's wearing a Nike swoosh. He's doing a black Nike shirt. He knew it back in the day. He made it on payroll by then. Smart marketing. Yeah. They recruited early. So I kind of wanted to do this.

Went to college at Syracuse because Marve Albert and Bob Costas did. And they were New York guys who went on. to do this and it's been kind of going to the next stop and the next stop ever since. Were those kind of the two guys you looked up to? Yeah, those guys. There were some, you know, especially Marv because Marv was, you know, a lot of people know him as being a network announcer for the NBA, but he was a local announcer too for the Knicks and the Rangers, which are the teams I grew up rooting for in the NHL and the NBA.

And he was also the sportscaster on local TV at night. So Marv would do like the 6 o'clock news. He'd go call a Ranger game. He'd come back and do the 11 o'clock news. Then he fly somewhere and do an NBC event somewhere. And then come back and do the Ranger game and it came like on Sunday night. So that's somewhere in my wiring my brain where people said, boy, you know, you really like you work a lot.

You do a lot of different things. That's the way I was taught it was supposed to be. You were supposed to be able to do everything. And like we said before, this isn't work. Like, you know, building buildings and digging ditches and saving people's lives, that's real work. This is entertainment. And I always felt that way and approached that way and still talking.

Yeah, you know, it's funny because I think we always say like, you know, people think, oh, so-and-so would be good on TV. But you don't know until the red light goes on and you actually have to do it for the first time. Like a lot of people thought you wouldn't be any good. A lot of people still saying that. People think I'm good. Are you kidding me? A lot of people still holding firm to that position.

You're right. You're right. It's like, I mean, we all know guys that think they got great personalities and they struggle. For you, as long as you've done this, do you still get excited for events? Do you still get nervous for events or anything? So I would say it's like it's adrenaline, not nerves. I think the day you lose the thrill of what you do, it might be time to find something that you do every day that is different than what you're doing. I don't know. I would hope, you can tell me, I would hope that when a guy gets to the first tee, no matter how many times he's played, and it's a tour event and the ropes are up and there's your name on the,

on the walking score deal, like, it gets you excited. Like, you're excited to play because who knows what you're going to do. Yeah. I would think that's the same kind of feeling for a lot of people who are listening, you know, and if it's, if you're not a pro, but you play in an event at your club or something like that, you know, you want to be excited on the first team. Of course. When you do anything in life, if you, if it brings you joy and it gets your attention,

then you're doing the right thing. So I still still feel that. I would say the only time in the last 10 years I've been nervous, truly like, okay, I'm like kind of, get out of your own headspace for a minute, just do your job, was coming on for the first time hosting the Olympics, because Bob Costas has done that since most of the lives have been alive. And most people, like I think it was like 40% of America had never seen anybody but Bob Costas host the Olympics in prime time. And like, for like the two minutes before, I'm like, okay, well, let's see, should I do this? Should I have fun? Should I be serious? And then, like, a minute later, I just cracked a joke in the studio and just like, you know, come on, stop.

It's no big deal. It's always the whole world. It's just the plan. I did look at, I did look at Drew Brees and Tony Dungy on the set at halftime before this Super Bowl halftime this year. I said, guys, no pressure. What a hundred and three million people are going to be watching right now. This is the biggest audience you will ever talk in front of. Don't screw up.

There's still billions who aren't watching. You know. That's good way to think of it. There's multiple billions that don't even know you're on TV. That's a really? Next time you get nervous, think of that. So I should think about the nice gentleman in Micronesia who doesn't have a TV. He just reads.

You didn't even know what you're doing. Micronesia Bob. But you do, like you went from that Olympics back to do the super. I mean, you do football, basketball, you call them swimming and horses and everything. What's the hardest when you get an assignment? Like, I got to tighten up. I need to do some research. What's the hardest one to call?

Well, the research is there for all of them. I think the ones I've done the least of the ones you have to do the most research so you feel comfortable. But I'll do the Thursday Friday here, which is it's not easy, quote unquote, but it's natural, right? Because I've done many, many, many golf tournaments. Don't do them as much as I used to. But I'll still do my research for Thursday and Friday because you'd want to feel like you're adding to the broadcast. The hard one is hockey for me. It's the hardest one to broadcast.

The guys who call hockey on a regular basis, I have such. admiration for because hockey you can never look down. You've got to memorize the numbers and it's the only sport where they change players in the competition without stopping. Yeah. Basketball we stop fast. Baseball, the umpire takes off his mask and waves to the guy and to this guy's in. Football between plays, even if the clock's running, you're going to sub the ball's not moving. Hockey, it's just, you know, you get four or five minutes of it. So I'll take a quick one. I did a red wings black hawks game. First game I did like four years ago. I've only done like a dozen games. I'm not very good at it.

And I'm doing the game. And I'm, I got a tip from one of the guys who does it, offices, they just memorize lines, you know, like Stoltz, Torrico, Nost. They'll be the line. That's a hell of a line. Left wing, center, right? You have a sense.

Right. You're the enforcer? I'm the enforcer. Can you skate, by the way? I'm not sure. That's a good bet. Can you skate? Actually, I'll send you a clip of me skating, Mike.

We actually had a bet with this with a former NHO player that was quite the production. And you can't skate? I can get around. rink I cannot lift the puck or check a former NHL player to the ground. But you went while wearing no pads. He was while wearing no pads. This is how terrified he was. He didn't even put pads on.

He's like, take it around him. I didn't want to kill Wiz or dude. I couldn't kill Wiz. Think what I'd go down in history as a guy that killed the whiz. I could have taken his head off. That's fabulous. So I'm so memorize the lines. I memorize the lines.

Second shift to the first game I do. Some guy takes a stick to the face. He's out for the rest of the game. He's cut stitches, couldn't come back. So I'm like, everything I memorized completely out of the window because now we're Shufflin line. The hockey play-by-play announcers have my admiration. They've got to constantly

talk. And golf, if you shut up, people love you. Oh, man, it's great. You know what? It's such a good time. I was watching the golf on Sunday, and you guys are so good. I took a nap. You guys are so peaceful. The worst thing ever. Just lay out. Right. The rudest things are people like, oh, I love to turn the golf on and take a nap.

I'm like, no, wake your ass up. That's my job. Exactly. So, so if you know if you know what you're doing here, This is more. Yeah. People, some people just like to see the shots and you don't have to over talk.

This is driving me nuts. I'm drawing a blank. He just retired. Legendary hockey broadcast. Oh, my God, Doc Emrick. He is so good. Like you said, that's why I admire him so much,

the way he does it. First off, he goes so fast, he could just be totally making shit up. I don't even know. That's the beauty of hockey. From here to here. And I'm like,

I don't even know if that's true, but whatever. Sounds good. He lives in Michigan. He lives about an hour north of, God, he's good. What a great guy and a wordsmith.

And he, He uses the language within broadcasting as well as anybody ever has. And that's a really cool thing. He'll say a defenseman is ladling. He'll saucer the puck in. You don't know what he said. But now when you think about it, oh, saucer, okay. So it lands over the rim and in that little spot on the saucer where the cup sits.

Perfect. Brilliant. Genius. Different verbiage. Then McCord was very good at that. Speaking of making shit up, 98% of his stats, he's like, I just made it up. He misses the fair way left 75% of time. He literally told me a little piece.

He's like, literally just, he's like, no one knows. This was pre-Google. That's right. There was no fact checkers call on the hotline. Like, that's wrong. He just make up everything. That's what he told me. He goes, listen, what you do is you make shit up so ridiculous that they can't even prove it.

Yeah, there's no staff. They don't keep that staff. That's the thing now with Shotlink, you can find everything. And that's the other thing, too. Now you know, now you have the police department online waiting for everything you say. Hey, heard you say this. It's wrong. It was, well, that's not what I said in the first place.

But that's fine. You know what? Go away, Twitter. Well, it makes us better because you know that people are going to catch you. And that's fine. If something artificial or not, real or not, embraced or not, forces you to be better at what you do, that's great. Like the whole live thing, I think live golf, and we all have our own opinions on it, I think it's going to force the PGA tour to be better.

I think it's already happening, yeah. Starting, you know, it has to. Competition is good. Checks and balances are really good. And as long as you know, hey, don't take it as gospel from somebody who's drinking on their couch and just tweeting random angry stuff. With an anonymous name. Yeah. I love those people.

Right. Would you go on Twitter with a false account? And now it's like a Kevin Durant. A burner. You don't have yourself a little burner situation. It'd be fun. Would you? Is that the question?

Like better than noest. I mean, right? I would. I don't know. I kind of just fire at people anyway. You come at me, I'm coming back at you. That's true. One follower account created yesterday, get in an argument.

Absolutely. Better than those. Look out. I like that. Better than notes. Stay on golf broadcast for a minute because you do a lot of on TV, like you said. Sometimes you just lay out. That's the best thing you can do.

But you actually, we had the pleasure of working with you this year at the Masters. You're doing it on radio, which is like the opposite. Because then you can't just lay out and let them walk down the fair. And the birds are flying. I mean, it's golf on radio is a different. It's a totally different beast. And it's interesting because I never understood that it could work. And then I went over to the British Open, which was still called the British Open at that point.

And heard the BBC do it. This is 20 years ago. I'm like, damn, this works. I can follow this. And then PG-A tour radio started to pick up a little steam. And now it's a real thing. And those guys do such a good job. And they really do. You'll find yourself in the car driving and you know what's going on. And it's pretty neat. So listen to those guys do it over the years and be able to hop in. Anytime you're asked to do anything at Augusta, I think you'd do it. No doubt. Exactly. And it's too-shay.

Only a couple of people get to call the Masters. And to do it on radio was kind of cool. And then I got a chance to do with Curtis Strange, who got me started as my sidekick in the 18th Tower in 24, 25 years ago. And just a chance to do golf with him again and sit there at Augusta for three hours and kind of laugh. is it was so worth it. I loved it. It was fun. It's different. You mentioned the golf on the radio at the serious except I was calling a shot at 3M the other day and Fred Albers was like 10 yards for me.

And I'm like in the middle of a call and all of a sudden here, this guy just made an unreal up and down. He's like, he turned chicken feathers into chicken salad. And I was like, it's got to be jelly because jam don't drink like that. It's kind of crazy shit. What did the hell did he just say? I start dying laughing as I'm trying to make a call. I will say that. You should steal that. Yeah, you should. I would say those guys see a lot of golf shots now. Yes.

I mean, it's four days. It's six hours. Those boys see, they see a lot of four-footers. They describe a lot of puts. You got to have different ways to say the same thing over and over and over and turning towards the hole and it's down. And he walks up and he's that, yeah. Exactly.

All that stuff. I like to ask this to all of our broadcasters that come on. Who else if you guys head on? Your best friend, Sean McD. Okay. Who else was that? We had, like, Noda. We had Romo.

He doesn't really count. Romo doesn't count for anything. kind of a wild car. It's a real impressive. So far, yeah. Yeah, we can't get Nancy's too big. What? Come on. Joking. No, Nancy has to come on. I said, no. We're booked up for a while, Jim.

Yeah. If you're listening. You guys are bad. But give me your, there has to be one moment in 32 years where you've said something to have been like, whoops. That was bad. Give me an oopsie day. You know, I knock on wood, man. I have not had a disastrous blooper.

I know. I, I said, he's good. I said somebody sprained their mid-left foot, which implied three feet. If that's the worst thing. Yeah, but yeah, I'm lucky I have not really, you know, called the wrong guy, the wrong name at the wrong time. So I'm, so far so good. Give it time. So when I screw up this weekend, I am calling your ass and blaming you. I'm putting it in my head. Yeah, it's always our, it's always our biggest fear, right? My fear when I was doing a bunch of sports at the same time was that I'd have like the the quarterback for Boston College playing point guard for the Celtics,

you know, or like a guy named Brown, whether you'll have, I might go through the year and have 24 different guys named Brown in different sports. Like, just make sure you get the right one. And now that you get older, the hard part is the first names of a lot of the second generation guys. Oh, yeah. Man, it's hard.

And the numbers might be the same. Even out here, it's just hard. I love that. 32 years, you haven't messed up. It took me like three weeks. It was awesome. No, I've messed up. I just haven't had one of those like,

hey, you got to see this blooper. I've got to YouTube Mike Tariko bloopers. You know what came up? Nothing. Mike Tariko's greatest calls. Yes. Over and I was like, Jesus. There's not a single thing.

My favorite TV blooper I've ever seen is a guy who was doing the local news in Atlanta on TV, like the noon show. This was 30 years ago, maybe more. And he said, so-and-so died today. It is Athens home. He was 70 degrees. Oh, beautiful. Fabulous.

And then they came out and did a correction because they got the age. wrong and he said he was 72 degrees. He repeated twice. Retraction, quick retraction. It's fabulous. I'll tell you one of mine was like, I think my third week ever doing this, I was in the tower on 17 in Memphis. It was a five-hour show.

It's 110 degrees out. I'm like getting delirious out. It's how it's smelled very, oh my God. Aromatic. But it's, we're showing Cam Smith. And I was like, over at 17, Cam Newton. And it like, it didn't hit me until about like 12 seconds later. And I'm like, I looked at the spot and I go, I just say Cam Newton?

I was like, sorry about that. It's almost football season. I'm just getting a little excited. And they look like. Easy mistake. Yes, they do. It happens. It totally happens.

I still can't believe Cam Smith played 10 through 14 at the old course, back nine Sunday of the Open in 15 strokes. That still blows. Like, we were watching it. I think everybody was so not just into watching Rory, but sure that he was going to find a way, that it just kind of snuck up on you a little bit. that, oh, wait, he's made three.

Now he's made four. By the time he made four, it was on your radar, and they made five. Where they had the holes tucked on that day, to go through those five holes in 15 strokes, that's one of the all-time great back-nine Sunday stretches in the history of major championship golf. And I don't think it got the acclaimed should have. I think the story's been more of Rory didn't win, then Cam Smith just played one of the best final rounds in open championship history and won the damn thing. It seems to be the narrative is more of Rory didn't win. Absolutely.

Well, I mean, I did the all-time. I was lucky enough to do the all-time. It's remembered for the guy who lost than the guy who won. Vandeveld in 99. You know, you never mentioned Paul R. He always mentioned Vanderveld first, you know. And it was the same kind of thing in a certain way. Camp Smith's a little more acclaim than Paul Lurie coming off the players win in March.

But still, it just, it was, I think Rory had everybody pulling for it for all the reasons we've discussed ad nauseum. but he really did and he had it right there in his hands. I think he played the smart safe round. Sometimes you turn around and the car behind you, you didn't see and it's going 90 and it's past, you're like, oh, wait, there's no police officer there. I can go that fast as too late. Well, you mentioned, I mean, you were there.

Like, people say he might have played safe. I'm like, those whole locations were so difficult. He, I mean, it was hard to get within 20 feet. Cam Smith just had a really hot putter. But you mentioned the 99 open with Vandeveld. I mean, because that's what it is, remember for a lot of people don't know that paul lorry won trivia question for my man over here yeah go who was the third man in that playoff fabulous question this is what i'll give you a hint i'll give you a hint

why are you picking on me i'm not i don't it just came to me i know he knows because he was there um paul alroy won i know that that's a trivia question comes up who won when the year so so here it is he won a major championship two years before he's actually forgotten in a couple of playoffs he's also forgotten at the one in Whistling Strait's right that's exactly right this show's not about me guys I'd like to defer I'd like to keep the spotlight on the guy that we're here to teach you I was in the same playoff when Vijay won at Whistling Straits with Chris DeMarco but he's never Justin Leonard was the other guy in the playoff and people are like oh I don't even remember that yeah I remember Paul Howard went in I remember Vandervale obviously well was the three worst drives

to ever start a playoff so one of the quick quick side I like that playoff format team the four hole yeah it's the best I love it especially at the open it's really cool So that took about 30 minutes from when he sank his put on 18, Vandeveld, for the playoff to start. He went up to his room and changed his pants. Now, it was rainy. You say it right there at the hotel. It was rainy.

It was a terrible day. I don't know why he had to change his pants, but he comes down in different. Yeah, I got an idea. Exactly. He comes down in different trousers. It was a half hour. It was like, what are we doing? I've never heard that.

And it was cold and damp and dark and. wet and it was one of the worst. You go back and watch those three T shots. They're the worst three T shots to start a playoff in the history of the majors. And people always say that for hyperbole. It was. It's not even close. It was really, really bad. Yeah, it was a brutal. And Paul Laurie, to his credit, played an unbelievable round. How he shot what he shot in the final round is one thing. But then his second shot at 18, he had a one shot lead at that point, two shot lead. His second shot in the playoff at 18 was amazing for how cold and wet. It was like It dealt like it was 50 degrees the whole week.

Carnoustie was, that was, the best part of that whole week was, like, Greenskeeper's revenge. The Greenskeeper was mad at the people telling him how to set up the course and he was going to be fired. So he just fertilized the rough and let it go. That's why the winning score. I think it was plus eight to get in the playoffs. That's the kind of major I like to see. Oh, no, this was. Plus eight.

This was complete, total carnage. This was the hardest golf course I think I've ever seen. It rivals the massacre at Wing for the game. in 74 for the hardest majors. And VanVote had to make a little putt just to get in that play. It could have been even. There ever been a bigger fist pump for a triple? Right.

And you're ever going to pump one. I was like, dude, you're going to make quad. Got the worst break. Yes. Yeah, it wasn't great. Because all the balls do stay in the grandstand, bounce off of anything, but not backwards and into the thick rough. We had to go over the burn.

He had to be watching Fee now at 3M on 17 and be like, where the hell was that bad for me? You wonder how often he thinks that, right? Why didn't I get a good bet? Do you remember the Never Compromise? Was the putter company? He went back out at Christmas time the next year for a commercial and played the whole hole with the putter.

Made six. Yeah, that's right, made six. That's pretty big. It's going over at Burns. Yeah. But you were over at the Open Championship at St. Andrews just a couple weeks. Yeah, a couple weeks ago. Take us through that scene on Friday with Tiger walking up 18.

That was one that you just wanted to take us. I'm glad it wasn't on the air. Just take a step back and take it in because you really do think, you know what, may not see this again. So we do shifts at the open because we're on for 11 hours. So the shift at that point was Terry Gannon and Sir Nick and Kurt Byram was in there. I forget who else was in there. But the next shift was me with Peter Jacobson, Steve Sands. And we walked out of the booth.

The booth was by 17. Just when we watched Tiger play 17, then watch them tee off 18 and kind of take the walk. because I don't think he'll play there again. I wasn't ready to say he absolutely will not. But I think all of us, when he walked over the bridge and didn't stop and pause and look back, I'm like, oh, man, that was. That might be it. But then to see him tear up, as he got closer to 18, that was like, that was a lot of things.

That was his appreciation for how much the people there appreciated him and all he's done. but it was also like, you know what, maybe it is the end. He'll still try. He'll always still try, but you guys know. You know deep down when the tank is starting to show E, and he knows it. You don't tear up on all that if you think. I'm on lap three. Right.

I got another one to go. You only do that when you think this might be, at least at St. Andrews. And especially Tiger, who knowing him would have been pissed with what he was shooting. Oh, yeah. More than anything else. That overriding emotion keeps out the sadness, the tears, that kind of thing. That emotion was completely overridden by that reality. And he verbalized it, too.

But I thought that week, in addition to that, I thought what he said about the PGA tour and the Live Tour and the Differences between the two, the dude for a quarter century has been the face of the PGA Tour. He has put money in more people's pockets, including all the guys on the Live Tour, All the guys on the live tour play the PGA tour make a boatload more money because of Tiger Woods, period. You cannot argue that statement. All of us in TV, the importance of golf, all of that is because of one guy. He's been the face of it for 25 years since Hello World in Milwaukee. And for the first time, he really stepped up to be the voice in golf, putting pressure on the major championships, just laying it out there for those guys.

know what? You may never experience what we're experiencing now if you go there and you can't get in majors. It was really, it was cool to see. I'm glad that he took that moment to play a card that he'd never played before. Especially for a guy that hasn't really spoken up in his career on much of any, you know, he kind of plays it right down the middle. I don't want to get involved in all this. And then finally now you're seeing him like, he's taking a stance, whether you agree or not. Well, who was one of his guys, MJ? Yeah. And, you know, Michael famously, exactly, you know, and that served Michael well for quite some time. Look, I hate him. I hate him. I can't stand some of the debate shows on TV.

It doesn't mean that first take is not a good show or any of these shows are not interesting. Skip. Any of them. Fine. You keep going. Skipper. I love to hear of Skippy's takes.

My point is, like, those shows, while you may have some natural disagreement, you're just disagreeing for the sake of shows. Yes. It's a lot of show. Right? So you're saying things. You're saying things.

Do you really mean all? of them sometimes when you say nothing and you don't want to share what you think the one or two times that you do it's 20 times more powerful than the person who's always screaming at the top of their lungs and that's what this was with tiger it's a stark comparison of the two but that's what this was finally tiger's saying once or for all I'm gonna speak up and this is what I think and since I don't do it all the time I probably should stop and pay attention yeah it was a memorable interview for him I mean you cover everything you cover everything you've been around all the greats and all the Has anyone done more for a sport than Tigers?

No, no, no, no. It's such a great point. Like, you think about, okay, who's the best of the best that you've seen in your lifetime, right? You know, baseball, multiple guys you can make an argument about. There's no one guy who stands above all, because a lot of the guys who set the records, there are PED questions about, so you can't really say there's that guy. Football, you certainly from a championship standpoint, you say Brady, you know, basketball, you can go Magic, you can go Michael, you can go Larry Bird, all had unique impacts at that.

time but the impact that tiger had he took a sport that was country club niche white male and exposed it to and not cool by the way to the opposite of all of those things now it hasn't flipped i i i screwed up i thought if you you made me bet my bet was tiger was going to bring more minorities to playing the game and we're seeing a few we're seeing some let's be honest it's you know you go through faces of the guys who are in this event this week or any tour event, it's 98% white guys, right? But I do think there's a coolness to golf that Tiger has brought. His real impact has been, look at the size of the guys, 6-1, 6-2, 6-3. I mean, I'm not picking on you at all, Colt. How tall are you? 5-8. 5-8 after it rains, right? 5-8.

You need a little bit of growth after rain. 5-8 with the moonblood. I'll tell you, that I got funny. So my point is like the average major winners are like 5, 8, 5, 9, you know, think of Watson, thinking of the arena, think of those guys. Now, look at the guys. It's like, oh, he could be a tight end. Oh, he could be an outside backer. It's different.

It's different. And I think Tiger making it cool and being that physical presence and bringing physicality, you don't see guys who are as often now who are short. And if you do, they are strong and they are wiry. It's changed the calculus of the whole deal. It's a huge. I mean, that's one thing. I mean, you look at them.

I mean, you look at them. They're athletes now. They're big athletes. But you mentioned the height thing. Yeah, good. So the beautiful Pat Perez one day calls me. He's like, I got to talk. You said his name and we'll spit my water around.

I mean, I just love Pat. Let's get into Pat right now. He's calling me. This is weird. He's like, I got to talk to you about something. I'm like, oh boy, what happened? I'm like, oh boy, what happened? He goes, so I'm sitting here looking at your PGA tour bio.

It says you're 59-21. He goes, look, you can lie about one. lie about one. You can't lie about both. I was like, that's beautiful. That's good. That's great. Which one would you rather lie about? Now you've got to pick one, because he makes a valid point. Next question. Two, 15. All right, it's 217. Damn it's that.

You can't lie about one. You can't lie about one. What's Patty Boy putting on his weight, though? I'd want to know what that was, too. I don't think they have that on the lib website. He's weighed down now. Right-handed. It's right. It's right. Since you brought up some of these, like, iconic like Tiger at St. Andrews and things like the 99 open championship super memorable. If you had to pick like this is my most memorable call or the thing that I saw that stands out the most, you never call another game in your life. What's like the pinnacle right now?

It's Tiger 2000 at St. Andrews winning the career grand slam. He's only a fifth guy to do it. And the first three weren't on TV. The fourth one was on, you know, seen in 1965. So you think about what that happened, it was 2000. It had been almost 35. years since it's happened before it hasn't happened in the 22 years since so once in the last 57 years somebody's completed the career slam I know we talk about it all the time where it gets the masters we have three guys who are one shy of it right now but that just hadn't happened that's that's the rarest of rare of rare in the sport and to be to be on the mic calling that and do that was something I'll just cherish forever that's a big what kind of race relationship do you have with tiger

uh you know what it's it's good I don't I never pretend to be friends with athletes you cover it. I like having a healthy relationship where if I need something, I can ask whether it's for on-air or for background and build trust. I'm not in a position where I'm working for outside the lines at my old place, ESPN. And it's not a knock. It's just you're not in a position where you have to do these journalistic type interviews all the time. But there are times you have to ask hard questions.

So I always try to keep a little bit of a buffer or a distance. So to the point of Tiger, if I reach out, he usually will get back to me. And he's been really good and really nice along the way. And I look, none of us are perfect. He has imperfections, but he has done so much for the sport and our relationship. We both started, he was on tour August 96. I started January of 97. First of a minute I called he won was the Mercedes Tournament,

champions at La Costa he'd be layman in a one whole playoff when Sunday got washed out so I've kind of paralleled his entire rise through this and been able to see a whole bunch of it he's been great to me over the time so lucky talk about you've been in a long time talk about how much it's like has changed for you like because I mean nowadays you slip up one time everybody wants your job and have gone you're like you yeah that's Twitter that's social like you can't say one thing like if you want to try to be people try to be entertaining and funny but then it's like oh, God, I can't say the wrong thing. Or if I offend one person, I'm screwed.

Well, like, and you guys know because you talked about Gary before. I love McCord and Farity and Peter Alice, too. Oh, yeah. Which is hysterical. Legend. Like, they can't get away. They couldn't get away with the stuff now on the air. They got away with 20, 25 years ago.

And that sucks. It's just a different. Yeah. The risk's not worth the reward to make one funny joke, get a couple laughs, or oops, that came out wrong. People are offended. I'm done. It's perfectly said, Drew.

But people also want, they want somebody to be entertaining. And it's a really thin line to follow. I'm glad that my job is the what. People don't come to me for entertainment. My wife will tell you. I'm the least funny person in our family. And that includes the dog. Dog's funny than I am.

But you don't have to sit there in our job and be quippy, creative, funny. You can have humor with your group. It's usually pretty safe. Humor with something that happens. But, dude, I offend someone. Is there somebody who could take this the wrong way? It's always in the back of your mind.

Now it's in the front of your mind. And nobody wants to be canceled. We all like doing this. You wish that as a society, not just for TV sports or radio sports or pods or anything like that, you just wish that our society could, one, loosen up a little bit. Totally understand people being offended. And you don't want to say offensive stuff. Somebody's offended by it.

You shouldn't say it. That's why the Washington football team changed your name. Yeah. You know, sit and talk to somebody from that community and you understand why their former nickname was so offensive to people. So even though we did it for a long time, it wasn't right. It needed to change. So being offensive intentionally is one thing. But people make mistakes.

Yeah, it's like a one-strike policy anymore. Yeah, exactly. And we just have lost the art of compromise in everything. Even like changing lanes. Like, you go to change lanes and people get mad at you. What are you doing? Like, stop, relax, you know? You can't talk politics with people.

anymore because you're afraid if you bring it up they won't speak to you again if you don't agree in political beliefs it's we we should be a lot better about what we've had in this country for a long time what it's made us great is the collective and bringing people together and now we're moving away from collective or moving back to separate an individual and dislike and it just isn't serving as well and I just hope we can all get our act together a little bit better and I'll tell you one thing which is cool about golf did this event in northern Michigan this past spring and Arndtellam who runs the Detroit Pistons he's the chairman of the Pistons he brought try to bring Republicans and Democrats in the

state of Michigan together try to do it on the golf course because this is one place that how to go not as many from one side played as the other side but that's okay there was enough and there was some and at least the spirit of it sparked a desire to do it again next year and this is one place where you can bring together people who disagree and maybe have some common out. As you know, four hours out there, you know, you kind of figure out what somebody's all about. Which side was light, Mike? I'm kidding. The independence, Drew.

Get the thing. The libertarians were in no show. Communist Party was not well represented on the golf club. Are you about to announce your presidential campaign right here? 2024, to Rico? It would be my eye. Only if cold would be my running. Oh, God.

There's too many skeletons. If I have time, I'm a vice captain assistant rider cup captain. now. He's got a lot of shit going on. I'll slide in. I'll write your speeches. What you said about, you know, trying to, you know, make a joke or all this. That's why I just make fun of myself. Right. Exactly. I can only offend me.

It's great. You can only piss yourself off so much and you'll still talk to yourself. Exactly. Right. And tweet yourself. It is, I just think it is tragic because, like, it is a show, right? Like, what we're doing is a show. And I want to be entertaining.

So I wonder, like, we're all the way off of any topic that you guys. Yeah, we're just, just fellas chopping it up. What about comedians? How about what's going on with Chappelle? He can't even get gigs. I mean, they're kicking him out of places. I don't remember the last borderline offensive comedian that I saw it on TV or anything. They're scared.

And that used to be the kids. Like, Don Rickles insulted now. Soft for its time. Or, no, soft for now, but in its time, it would have sharp edges. Don Rickles insulted everybody who was breathing. And, like, now it's like, ooh, you can't do that. Richard Pryor? Pretty good.

Would be gone in a. second now I did. There's one guy that just doesn't care, and that's Ricky Jervais. He's all. Bill kind of falls in it, and I don't really care what y'all think. Ricky, Bill and Chappelle. George Carlin, he'd be one of his famous pits was the seven words you can't say. Now on a podcast, you can, you know, McAfee on his radio show. He says the seven in every segment.

I feel like the guys that don't abide by, like, the rules are worried about being are the ones people gravitate. Look at McAfee, you know what I mean? Look at Love or Hayden Barstool. Like, dude, they say stuff and they have a huge following. It's like people, it seems like are craving for the non-super people. stuff, but there's only a few people willing to actually do it and can get away with it. And can get away with it.

Barkley. Chuck. Exactly. Over the years, exactly right. So I think what's happened now is we are anti-institution. If there's an institution out there, people want to go after it and knock it down or chip away at it. Institutions help make individuals successful. And now it's just, it's like old school days. It's the revolution of the individuals. And they're fighting back in every possible way.

I don't know if it's the phone, everybody's got a phone, they feel like they've got influence, power, voice, whatever it is. But, you know, anybody who's been putting any sort of discomfort, they're just going to fight back and try to take it down. We're really digging deep here. We're solving some problems right now. This is not what I expect. Way different than I thought I was going to.

Do you want to talk about some dumb shit right now? We've got nine dumb things to talk about. It's talking about me carrying makeup all the time. What is your makeup routine like? How long it take you to get done up? 90 seconds. Is it just the dome? Yeah, it's just like some powder and some antishine.

What about you? You got a nice, you got on the golf course now. Yeah, but it doesn't matter. But like if you're going to be in front of the camera, yeah. Yeah, I love when they've got to powder that thing up. It's great. Good feeling. Yeah, I'm like, so I say that.

Like, I'm sweating here like a bag. And you're taking this little thing and tap in my head. It ain't going to do a thing. You're all the shit. Come here. Let me help you. Now I'm just going to sweat makeup into my eye. Yeah.

Oh, that's beautiful. So I do carry makeup with me wherever I go, which is nice. Oh, really? Are you wearing any right now? Well, what do you got on? If you can't tell, then, you know, I win. That's right. That's right.

That's 32 years. Of all the people who you've worked with, does anyone spend longer in the makeup chair than Brandel? Oh, no. Oh, no. I don't work with them all that often, but yeah, no, no, that's a process. His writer's got to be long, too. He's got to have some old literature so he could quote it. You know what I mean?

It's a complete look. Here's what I love about Brandel. He works. He works. of grinds like i always i always joke about his legal pads legal pads got more scribbles and more stuff like he's researching stuff he's like do you remember remember that shot ioki hit in 81 i'm like no no dude he like he's that's kind of like a don january leg action isn't he give me a shot of that like he's a smart man he's he knows some golf deep he works his tail off and he's not afraid

to take on a topic and then defend it and he's good with you disagree with it? We're trying to knock it down a little bit because he loves the sparring. It's pretty cool because it's actually taking golf, a sport that never had a debate or a post-conversation culture, and it's actually added to it, which I think is really cool. And Love them or Hate him, the points he takes, like, he truly believes. It's not some of that shock jock stuff we were talking about, some of those names that came up on the debate shows. Like, let's just argue for the sake of arguing. If he argues it, like, he truly believe, like, I got a tiger stat here. I'll back that up with 50 pieces of info.

Well, he can back it up. And in defense of the other guys, like, They've become entertainment. They were all journalists and writers, and they know the deal. But you've got to do it five days a week on a bunch of topics. Like, I did talk radio for a little bit after Dan Patrick went out on his own. I followed Dan doing his show on ESPN radio, and I wasn't very good at it because I didn't have a take on the Red Sox bullpen. Like, I don't care.

You need an opinion on everything. That's a hard thing to do. So doing that every day is a challenge. Brandl is one sport each day, but he, he'll come find a topic and he'll defend it or make you, he makes you think about it. I have full, full, full respect. And he's got beautiful hair.

If you want to dive back into radio, Gravy's Sleeves and Torrico. It's not terrible. And you don't have to say shit or not. We say dumb stuff all the time. I like you guys on the radio because there's like, there's like an almost thought in your mind. Those guys don't know they're on. Yet, yet there's always a return to purpose.

No, I'm serious. There's always like a return to purpose. When the lift stuff was really starting, you guys had more fascinating conversations. I actually sat in my driveway for eight or nine minutes listening to you guys. Forget I could just listen on my phone. Right. You get out of the car.

It's true. But it was, it's that kind of, and that's good. Because the conversations that you guys would have off air, you have on air. And that makes a difference of people know each other. That's why all the other shows are great. They try. nothing is like PTI on TV because Kornheiser and Wilbon

have been having those arguments at the Washington Post in the newsroom for 40 years and it's a continued conversation you took the cameras down and the lights down and the mics off and the two of them were still there the conversation would continue

I've been in the room I've heard it I've seen it and that's who they are and so that's the one thing about today getting back to this other stuff we're talking about it's authentic if it's authentic people will buy it and they'll test drive it for longer than one minute and that's what you guys are when you're on the show you're authentic

appreciate that that's for anyone's ever said to us yeah thank you save that you I wrote him a script before he basically verbatim I'm feeling like tiger walking towards Valley of sin I'm getting emotional right now but oh let's get to the nine I feel like we could go we solved a lot of we'll get into Israel and Palestine next day what happens now so we do an emergency nine where we nine fun questions even learn even more about the great Mike Tarita yeah these are all across the spectrum okay and you have it pretty good So I don't even know if you're going to have an answer to this. Is this like, do I have to, is this like Final Jeopardy?

Is this timed? No, no, no. There's no pressure. There's some deep thinkers here. But we ask this to everyone. Yeah. You can be anyone else for a day. Walk in their shoes for a day.

Dead or alive. Who would it be? Oh, wow. I would. Tom Brady. Okay. I'd like to be that good looking. You're going to be that good looking town?

What about the home life? You're all right with that? I love my wife. Yeah. Very smart. See? Yeah. All right, let's say you're calling an NFL game.

You get to pick your color guy for one game only. It doesn't have to be a broadcaster. Just anyone up there you're going to have the most fun with this is going to be cool. You can say dumb stuff. It doesn't matter who you want up there. Is this dead or alive also? Yeah, you can spend it out. Madden?

Madden. Badden. Because we all listen to Madden. I'd love to have a game of Madden. You know, that's the thing. And boom. And, you know, Farv. Brett Farv because Brett Farv is Brett Farv.

Yeah, Madden. He's like Charles. I'd listen to him call any. It called Badminton World Championships. I'd be like, I'll watch it. Anything. He used to do a spot on K-CBS, the news radio station in San Francisco, a five-minute radio spot that would talk about anything.

And it was some of the most intelligent, interesting stuff. John was much more than football. Amazing, amazing dude. He started talking about how these three water coolers were a family one day. I mean, it was brilliant. He started circling them. Well, that's a problem. We're talking to Mike Tariko, for the love of.

What the hell is that? We got a build-out. We got a superstar over here. We got Detroiters coming. in here. We got to build out. We're going to make sure the beer is pulled off on the infrastructure. That was when they the gatorade bat. Yeah. Yeah. He's like, this is the baby cooler. This is the mama cooler. I'm like,

what the hell is happening right now? That was awesome. Oh my. That's good. Okay. Over to me. We don't know we're on our. Yeah. We don't know where. Um, so Joe Buck has always talked about how he, his pre-show tradition is he has a beer before. Does Mike Trico have any pre-show traditions? Uh, closest thing is they usually grab a cup

of coffee. That's not as exciting. Mike. I understand. No bloopers. No pregame rituals? I got to get something for my next question. Yeah, I'm a beer. You got to get something for your next question? What the hell is going on here? What do you need?

He's got a prop for the next question. Oh, yeah. I'm more a cup of coffee guy. Yeah. Yeah, I don't eat much the day of the day of a game. And I'm starving during the game. So look for a snack. Do you give them enough time to get this?

Yes, you did. Good job. Good riffing. That's what we call that in the biz, Mike. Riff. Just riff. In the biz. We call it a Phil, actually.

Riff is music. But good. Oh, okay. You're getting better. That's why I'm talking about. That's what I was talking about. All right, you worked with us on Sirius X-M for the Masters. Okay?

Masters Radio. There was a certain read, Mike. No, you made me feel really good about myself. So to show the people out there how tough our jobs are, I brought the read that I thought was the worst read in the history of life. Ever. And you haven't seen it since the Masters, nor have I. This is the way it was printed on the screen when we were reading it. I want you in your best Mike Tarrico pro broadcaster.

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Because I came on the air, I was coming on right after you, and I heard you read it, and it's tough read, as you just saw it. And there was a couple of little hiccups. I was like, if Tarrico messes up, the rest of us are exempt, this thing's impossible. That was really well done. So, holy shit, a lot of names. The funny part of that is somebody said, hey, did you see this thing? I saw this great thing about the godfather called the offer.

Like, no, no. You mean Albert S. Ruddy? You mean Miles Teller? They all end in vowels. They're impossible. I'll never forget. That's fabulous memory by you. Mike.

It was good. Yeah. That reads was brutal. We also like to make fun of each other's when we have to do the soccer reads. because some of the team names are just bizarre. And we have no idea. But I was watching the Premier League. Football one night and the great Al Michaels had to do a soccer promo read.

And he like just slurred the team's name. And I was like, if he does that, I don't know. I feel great about myself. That's the oldest thing. That's what you do. Just mumble right through it. Take a deep breath and go, uh, cold lost. Oh, God.

That was. Will's Alvers. Really, really well done. That was the first time you've seen it since April. So dramatic, too. I'm kind of, I might go watch it now finally. No, don't watch it. We'll record that.

Streaming April 28th on Paramount Plus. Only on Paramount Plus. All right. A lot of announcers have their catchphrase. I mean, Jim Nance, hello friends. Is it, Mike? What is going on? Do these people know?

We've got a buildout going on. This is what the PGA tour on Tuesday is all about. I mean, they don't know the kind of big production that's going on up here right now. Yeah. Mike will have your ass. Number five. We have Jim Nance, obviously with Hello Friends. Is it, is it Mike Brin?

Mike Brin? Mike Green? Yeah, I like him. Bang. Bang. Chris Berman's got a million of them. What's your favorite announcer's catchphrase? Oh, that's a good.

I love Hello Friends. I do like that because it means so much. It has a meaning that most people don't get unless they hear Jim talk about it. So I love that because I'm kind of a little sappy in that way as well. Yeah, I think I like Mike Breen's NBA call. I like Bang.

It's so good. I love that, yeah. It's really good. He also has a good puts it up, puts it in. puts it up puts it in that's that's very good also yeah i'd say that i will i will say hello friends randomly to people i say it all the time i open the radio show like half the time with it it's it's it's so cool it's neat and jim is you know jim has been so nice to me even when i was in local tv in syracuse jim was at cbs doing nca tournament stuff and he was the big network

new network guy uh he's been nice to me from then on we've been friends and i'm i'm one of those friends i feel that way he is he is he's talking about chris burman by the way i mean Not on once he has. I mean, the fastest two minutes in football or whatever, when he does those highlights. Those are great. In college, college roommates, I told you all in sports casting in the 1980s, we sat and we had a legal pad in front of the TV, a junior year, and anytime there was a new Chris Burman nickname, we wrote it down. And we set the whole list, we typed that, said it to ESPN. This is before, eight years before I worked in ESPN.

They didn't even know I existed. Never heard back from them, but that was like a, so I knew like about the, when I got to ESPN. I'm like, okay, guys, can you get this done, please? Because I know what happens when we send you good stuff. You do nothing with it. Beautiful. It was great. I like that.

All right, I'm going to give you a little SAT-style question here, okay? Syracuse guy, smart, dude. Not really. When it comes to sports broadcasting alumni, okay? Syracuse is to Michael Jordan as Northwestern is to blank. Giving you an opportunity here to really drop a bomb. So Michael Jordan's the best of all time. Mm-hmm.

Right. Right. You got that, you know? Bob Coosie. Oh, I was hoping you'd go like Will Perdue or something. No, no. I worked with Bill Winnington. I'm not, it's not a knock on. He's not in the Michael Jordan strategy.

I wanted you to go super low. It started to beat with Northwestern. But I went sneaky old. I'm like old school like writers. Yeah, we're the always hip trendsetting guys. And they're like the established. Cousy, that's a very complimentary. Intelligent answer, not mean-spear.

Yeah, I opened it up for you. I wanted to see where you go. Jeremy Lynn. So they had like a week or two of just madness and then they're- A quick flash. That was nuts. That was awesome. We had one Sunday game in the garden that he went for 30.

It was just crazy. That was one of the, you asked me before, which I always pumped the brakes on, what my favorite moment was. It got more important after he passed away, tragically. but doing Kobe's last game at Staples Center was nuts because we were in the locker room before the game and me, Hubey Brown, Lisa Salters and our producer in a separate, you know, small room there with Kobe, we interviewed him before the game.

And he had played the night before. He's like, I don't know if I got 20 minutes of me, 22 minutes most. And he played 30-some-odd minutes, wouldn't come out. And, you know, went for 30, then 40 and 50 and scored 60. I'll never, ever, ever forget. That's so cool. That was the coolest nights ever. Yeah, that's all.

I still remember that. And after Kobe passed, they showed that game. Like, that accident happened on a weekend. And then on that, like, Monday night, they showed the game on ESPN. And I was somewhere in a hotel. I was traveling for who knows what. And I watched the game. And I cried like a baby.

Got really emotional watching it. But I felt so proud of our group, not just me, our whole group. Because we, that's the last basketball game he played. we did it the right way. That game was a tribute to his career for the first kind of half and third quarter. And then when he started playing great and out of his mind, we just let it be that. And if you asked me if I'm proud of any moment on TV, that game, for sure. That's it. Yeah, that's a big one. Get Kobe's last game. That's, yeah, God, gone way too soon. You've done some big stuff, Mike. You've done a few big things. You call some big moments. And now you're here.

Not really. I called No, but a game winning in a playoff in Hartford. That's got to be up there high. And I was really excited about it. He beat Calc. Ran around the green and gave it the double gun. Oh, the double gun. That's when he had the hoops, right? Yeah, the hoops. And I was all excited about it.

Noto always was fired up that I got so excited about the win because I had a flight to catch. That's great. When the announcers are rooting for you hard, you know, they're trying to get that hell out of Dodge. And we're done. See you later. Way to go, No. I told us we had Harris English on earlier and he won the eight-hole playoff. Oh, yeah.

I was like, hey, can you get that shit over with earlier? Like, I don't get paid overtime. I know. What are we doing? All right. Next one. You're so nice. This has probably never happened to you, but has a player, any athlete ever reached out and gotten upset with you about something you said about them?

Charles Hal the third. What? No, no longer the PJs. A recent guest here on the program. Wasn't mad. He kind of felt he put me in my place. Rang delay, Westchester, maybe 99 or 1, something like that. And we're just, it's a rain delay.

We're killing time. We're just totally killing time. Now the guys are warming up. And there's Charles, and we say, Charles, if he finishes top five this week, he'll pass Jack Nicholas, Jack or Arnold. There's Jack.

Pass Jack Nicholas in all-time career earnings. But, I kept going, just gives you also a window into how insignificant that stat is because the earnings have changed so much over time. Charles took that as a slight. It wasn't meant a slight. Oh, it was just trying to be accurate. Money's changed, yeah.

Money changed even then. And now it's like nobody talks about that list anymore. Charles, you don't have 18 majors. Now it's like, I don't know if you know that. Charles, the next day or the next week, maybe in D.C. Charles said something to me, hey, you know, that I heard that you said that. That's something you shouldn't say. He kind of, you know, he was bothered by it. It's fine.

He wasn't mean about it at all. I was just like, okay. And I'm thinking of myself, look, I hope I'm here. we'll help him when you win your 18th major and pass Jack in that category. But other than that, I haven't had an athlete turn on because that's pretty impressive. I mean, one thing I'm shocked that it was Charles by that,

by the way. And also, anytime you're in the same sense with Jack, it's like, it's not a, it can't be that terrible. It's not a nod at all. It wasn't meant that way. One thing, like, I love what Charles says. He's like, you know, he goes, these players, every time I say something bad about them, they call me and reach out. But every time I say something great, they never call and thank me.

Like, come on. Like, it's giving take. It's like Twitter. That's humans. How many times you go on Twitter and say, Coltonose is awesome today? Right? It's never happening. I'm going to do that. Not ever.

When I work with you, when you say something, how great is cold nos on the air? And then someone's going to say, shut up, Mike. No way he was it. Mike, you suck. Exactly, right? Shut up. Stop talking. Just let them call.

Well, it's like the dry cleaner. Do you ever tell the dry cleaner they do a good job with your shirts? No. But when they screw one up. Oh, you let them know. You got some stuff there as we speak. Cole, I want you to give a compliment to the young lady when you come back out. She's a very nice lady.

Yeah, they're going to have you starched up. Yeah. It's out of clothes for that. Second week to run on the road. That happens. Yeah. That all black squeat. I missed the window at the hotel by 15 minutes to get it back the same day.

So this lady down the street was just nice enough to do it for me. Don't you realize people helping people? You go out on tour, like how nice people are. Oh, yeah. It's crazy. I love everyone. Cities like just open their arms. What happened?

I got a heckler. Colts got an extreme hater that he's pissed off in a way that I don't, the wrath of God is inside of this human. He hates Colt with a passion. We keep trying to find him. Yeah, I was playing. Sleez is trying to find him. I want this guy.

I want him on the radio. I put out a, I put out of Find Me FBI. If you can locate this angry dude in Hartford and a row just wore my ass out walking up a series. Yeah. I want to have a beer.

Very, very, very mean things. Let's slap one of those apple tags on them. We got to find this guy. We got to find this guy. We got to find it. I just want to know what I did do him. Yeah, exactly. I mean, dude, we can. Was it when betting was legal?

Did you? Cause him like a five-player parlay? Probably. Like missing a put on 18 or something? Two dollar fantasy lineup. Get over it. I'll give you two bucks. Don't say mean things about me.

I mean, we got to be able to locate this man. We can go to the moon. Put it up and do all kinds of shit. We're going to find this dude in Hartford. My turn? Yeah. Okay.

Confirm or deny here. Yes. From your great friend, Sean McDonough. When you first arrived at Syracuse and you had to help him move out of his apartment, you purposely carried the light of shit possible in the house and were the worst mover he's ever had. One thousand. percent confirmed. He got a job in Boston. He was, I was starting in September. He had just

finished, graduated a few months before, three months before, but stayed to do the minor league baseball team, which was then called the Syracuse Chiefs. Sean finished that, got a job in Boston. I'm in the sports department. I'm three weeks there. I'm trying to learn, like, how you do this, and seniors teach freshmen and upperclassmen. It's really helpful. And it was, hey, we're all going to McDonough's. He got a job. I'm like, Sean McDonough? Like, I care? I don't know. I don't know. I care? I don't What a bum he is. First time I met him, I'll just pick up something white and throw it in. I'll leave.

True story. Okay. But, hey, he can forever call me one of his movies. Exactly. He worked for you. He worked for him. I was his mover, so he can hold that over me forever. For forever.

I think he does. And he was cheap then, and he's cheap now. So you do know him. No. Kid, Sean, we love you, Sean. A thousand percent of a kid. He's one of my favorite people in the world. I love Sean.

He's a great. He's a riot. All-time great people. And he can laugh at himself as well. I caught him on the phone for a couple. couple quick stories. I knew you are there together. Next thing I know I look at my phone. It's like 43 minutes. I was like, all right, dude, I just was looking for like one Torrico story. You know what John McDonald's the best for? When you're on a drive somewhere.

Oh. You need like a good friend to keep you awake for a half hour. Some stories. Fun to play golf with too. He's uncensored Sean is good John. Great. Great people. Love good. And like not good. Freak and brilliant. Great at hockey, which you were talking about how hard is very good. He's on a great job. I, I wanted to ask him this and I didn't. I think he might be the only guy to call the World Series and the Stanley Cup on TV. Probably, yeah. Because of all the sports, those are the two most different. Think about how slow baseball is.

Think about how fast hockey is. I don't think anybody's ever called. I shouldn't open my mouth and say that. Somebody will tweet me better. Let's just say it's few and far between. No one's listening. And if it's one, that would be few. It's like our parents.

Say hi to my mom. Say hi. Susan, hi. There you go. She's going to love that. He did such a good job raising. Easy there. Hold the lie.

We don't like to lie on this show. You're running for president. Are we done? Is that nine questions yet? This is it. Last one. You ready? Okay.

We're just getting started. This is obviously the end is a very long time from now because you're going to still keep calling the greatest sporting events there is. But you've done everything. You've done? I mean, what haven't you done? It's not. Travelist championship. You do fights?

You got one. No boxing. No boxing. You got one last broadcast. Yeah. What's it going to be? If I had one last to do. other than you guys playing in the match.

Oh, okay. Don't tease the people. I'm going to be clamoring. I'm going to be clamoring for this mic. That's a good line. Broadcasting rights all over the place. You guys are legitimately funny. I thought that you had writers.

No, it's all bullshit. Super Bowl. Super Bowl? But you skipped a Super Bowl. No, no. I was there as the host. You came back. I got to host it.

Okay. I'll pre and post, right? To call a game, it's the Super Bowl. That is. Look, you look at the number of people vote in our elections every year. That's the only number that rivals the number of people who stop to watch the Super Bowl. Almost one out of every two people in America. The numbers are 100 million, but people at parties aren't measured properly.

Almost one in every two Americans stops to watch the Super Bowl. It is not even close. It's the only thing that stops our country. It's the biggest day we have in America. It crosses overall religions, all cultures. all demographics, all that stuff, to be a part of that day even near the pregame, and I've done one as the main host, three is one of the smaller hosts of the show.

It's great, but to do the game itself would be, that would be something I hope to do at some point. That would be the coolest thing for me. If you keep your head down, Mike, you keep going. I feel like you got a spot in this game. You know? Never give up.

And if not, I am more than happy to be the Walker and call the on-course action for the club championship. at your club anybody if you're out there i'll be happy to come out and do that there's a radio spot waiting for you when you need it if you need some work why'd you look at cold you're not kicking him no it's gonna be a three-way it's gravy in the sleaze not sleaze and gravy okay the main event always comes last dude Tyson fight first ever somebody said which ones which i said they're both both they're both they're both both both well put Michael you're a champion

thanks so much for the time that was a blast and i kind of joke around that they may listening more. You guys are great. It really, like, what the sport needed and additional a bunch of other stuff were fun and people who are real and people who talk like you do with your friends at the club and who are just kind of guys who want to hang with. You guys are really good. Thank you so much. Best day of our lives. All right. Well, that was the great Mike Tariko, legendary sports broadcaster. And he ain't slowing down any time, Slees. I mean, this guy, he does it all. Kentucky Derby, Indy 500, Super Bowl, Olympics. You name it. He does it. Sunday night.

now. He's the lead host there. The guy's incredible. He is so good at what he does. It was awesome to sit down with him. Now, there's nobody that can bounce around quite like Notre Dame football. Then over to Olympic swimming. I mean, he was doing the Olympics over China, flew back to host the pre and post game show for the Super Bowl, then flew back over there. He's a busy dude. He's awesome. He also likes to cut loose and have a good time. I've got to play golf with them. Die hard golfer, as you would expect. And I also tried to start a little feud there, Colt, at the end. I opened up the door for him between Syracuse and Northwestern because that's where all the sports journalism people go and there's a little rival he didn't take debate dude he's two

seasons he's two seasons he gave a nice little compliment to him i was i was hoping he would just go go low with that one and how about the only time an athlete has ever called and gotten upset about what they've said what mike trico said about him charles hal the third i was like i told guys last week in the in the trailer when we were getting ready to go i was like they asked how the interview was and i said i'll give you one million guesses you can name every athlete you could think of who called Mike Tarrico to complain. It ain't going to, you're never going to get it. Dude, I would have never guessed that.

I was shocked when he did. And also, like, the stat that he used like, hey, Charles Howl surpass Jack Nicholas or whatever it was, you know, in terms of the money. Dude, they use that for like everybody. You know what I mean? Especially nowadays with the money the way it is, it takes like two years or some of these guys or whatever to pass Jack. I'm like, that's not really a knock.

It's just that money was slightly different when Jack was playing compared to now. So like I said, anytime you get mentioned the same breath with Jack, it ain't the worst thing. I would have never, ever guessed that the one guy of all the sports he calls across the world for all the years, there was Charles Howe. Yeah. Speaking of Jack, we had a great time with our guys Jack and Sam from Fandul out in Detroit. We got amongst it a little bit. I know you had to catch a flight, but we had a great time without you.

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I'm very, very excited about that. But go to Fandul. We got all kinds of things for the Wyndham Championship this week. You can bet outright winners, top tens, top 20s, which Slees just loves his top 20 bets. You can do matchups, head to head, whatever you want to do. There's all kinds of things over there. So make sure you go to the Fandual Sportsbook,

and it's now time for us to make our picks for the Wyndham Championship. By the way, my favorite bet of the week finally hit last week, a little top 10 from Cam Young. so I... You're back on the horse? I think I'm in the positive now. You're back on the horse. My heater ended, of course.

Every good thing has to come to an end. Keegan, I blame you for that. But I'll be firing more top 20s. I love the top 20s, dude. I'm firing top 20s heavy. All right, well, let's make our picks. We'll get our favorite bet of the week out later in the week. But for me, the Wyndham Championship,

I'm going with a guy who's just... He's a stud, man. He drives it straight. It's his iron's great. He's got some of the most unbelievable hands ever. And I just like him every time he teased it up he's going off at 16 to 1. I'm going with the big man Shane Lowry. Big Shane, your twin brother, love his hand. Love that guy.

Watching him, ship the golf ball. I do like that bet a lot. And I'm going to say this cold, I feel very confident. Our best bats have been doing pretty good. I feel very confident in these two bets that I'm about to throw out here. So my favorite for the week, guys going off at 26 to 1. He was 10th last week. He's got great course history at this golf course. He's finishing the top 10 the last two years irons it really well always high up in strokes gains approach putter can get extremely warm as well russell hindley let's go 26 the georgia bulldog roof roof yeah you can't mention a georgia guy without saying they're bulldog there's only like 42 of them out on tour no big deal all right my dark horse he's not the darkest of horses but he's got some nice odds and he's been

playing some incredible golf his last four starts t2 a win miscut at the open but that was tough He had to get over there quickly and all that. Travels quick. And then come back T-11 at the 3M open. My man, J.T. posting with the Big Cat Aaron Fleener on the bag going off at 40 to 1. Let's go. They've been known to get around this joint Sands Bogies, bogey-free around this joint for 70-2. That is correct.

Still looking for a bogey there a couple years ago. Still hunting. Cannot find them out there. I love that bet. J-T. That is a dynamic duo with the Big Cat on the bag. All right, I'm going to go with the guy that, like, quietly, I feel like, under the radar. Former guests here.

By the way, shout out former guests coming off the week after his show, Hubs, Mark Hubbard with the ace, with the most disappointing ace in the history. He hated the shot, thought he shanked it, ended up making an ace with a four-iron. So shout out the hubs for that. I talked to him on the range on Sunday. I was like, dude, you got to tell me about this. He's like, man, I was blocking everything all day. I was so stuck.

I just assumed he, like, miss hit it and didn't think it was going to get there. He said, I thought I hit it 15 yards right of the green. Like, I didn't even think it was close. When I looked up, he's like, oh, boy, this is about to be embarrassing. It ends up going in. No big deal. Yep. Hoop with a little four-iron.

I thought he hit it off the toe or thought it was 15 yards short. Yep. Nope. Right in the middle. Hobbs with the ace piece with the foreiron. Way to go. All right. All right.

My next guy. Going off at 45 to 1. Former guests of the show, quietly, three top tens in a row. Okay. Eighth of the Travelers. Fourth at John Deere. Tenth this past week. During that stretch, five rounds of 66 or better.

He's rolling the shit out of it right now. I think his time's coming. Scott Stallings, 45 to 1. Don't hate it. He has sneaky. Been playing some really, really good golf. All right, like I said, we'll get our favorite bets of the week out to you later this week, but see for yourself why Fandul is America's number one sportsbook.

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