Subpar - Monday Q Info founder Ryan French on what makes Monday Qualifiers so special, the biggest Q-School cheating scandals he's covered

Episode Date: March 18, 2025

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Welcome back to Golf Subpar with Colt Nost and Drew Stoltz. And this episode is brought to you by Fanatics. Slees, we had one hell of a players championship this past week. Roy McElroy picking up his 28th PGA Tour win in a playoff over former guest, J.J. Spahn of Golf Subpar. Yeah, back-to-back fun weeks to watch of golf where they actually got challenged. You know, coming off Bay Hill, which is a monster. Then this week with the wind that they had, I mean, Saturday was absolutely brutal. It was sweet because you'd see like 76 is 17.

77, 78 from Justin Thomas, right? Back it up with low scores, too. They're both out there. JT did something good last week? Shot a low one. Shot a low one, which we'll talk about. A lot of tweets, a lot of tweets he made that day. But dude, is a great, I thought the setup was awesome.

We got lucky with the weather, getting some challenge in there. And the ending, I mean, dude, you get the three-hole aggregate at the end, which I love, especially on those three holes. And, yeah, huge put on regulation, I would say, for Roy McRoy, for a number of reasons on that 72nd. That thing's an inch longer. and every inch matters, as we talk about, the narrative could be completely different than it is right now,

but his hype train heading into Augusta will be full steam ahead. Yeah, look, man, he's playing some serious golf right now. This is a second win of the year, both, obviously, and against the best fields you can pretty much have, Pebble Beach and now here at the players. But that golf course, it's the star every year. I just absolutely love it. You can see, obviously, a lot of low scores.

but you can also get absolutely your ass whipped around there too if you're not on. But Roy McRoy, yeah, he's now the second betting favorite at the Masters behind Scottie Sheffler down to like six and a half to one. You know how I feel about him this year heading into the majors. I picked him to win two of them. Good year. Masters was not one of them. But I just,

I think what he has done with his wedge game just, he obviously changed golf balls, which he says has helped him a lot with that. But his wedge game, I don't think, has ever been better. He's totally changed the flight of it. his control and his spin so much. I told you during our serious show, like, I don't ever remember seeing him hit so many, like, chippy flighted wedges. Like off-speed wedges, yeah.

I love it. I think that was something he was missing in his game. We all know how he drives it. But, yeah, it's turning out, it looks like it's going to be a monster year for Roy McElroy. I mean, you're the only one thinking that right now. I think the whole golf world is the scary thing about that if you're not in Camp Rory or you're one of the other players. Like, he won that thing.

He weren't in a playoff. He missed a ton of short putts. That could have very easily. If he had had a good weekend, it's tough to put out there. Those greens were burnt out. The wind was blowing. You had to factor in wind into your reeds. But just Saturday alone, I mean, he probably missed five.

And then Sunday, there was a couple more, right? I mean, he could have won that thing going away. And he didn't, but he still gutted it out at the end. And it's just, it was a huge win for him, I think, because we've seen him win in landslides, right? He's got multiple majors where he wins in a runaway. He's got a lot of tournaments where he just runs away and hides because he's that much better. it's the ones where they get down to the end and it's close that he's had trouble closing things out.

A lot of seconds, a lot of runners up. Of course, Pinehurst last year, to get this one done the way he did, psyche-wise and narrative-wise to, like I said, that put on the 72nd, that thing lips out, which it could have done for the same price. I mean, man, the avalanche of, you know, Rory can't close takes would have been just heaped upon us. Yeah, but he got it done.

And we've got to give some love to JJ Spahn, though. Huge love. Awesome. All week long. It was so cool to see, man. I was pulling hard for him. You know, we get to play quite a bit of golf with him here in Scottsdale. We said, we've done this two years in a row where we've kind of started hyping some guys up after what we see right before the season starts.

We did it last year with Ches Revy. Didn't work out for us. We said the same thing about- We miss sometimes. Yeah, occasionally, not very often. No, rare. But we said the same thing about JJ. Like, I played with him quite a bit this offseason.

And I just could, leading end to Sony Open, I was like, this guy is playing some serious good golf right now. Like, I wouldn't be surprised if he goes. out there and gets a win or at least contends in some big ones. But that was a massive week for him. He is now sixth. How about that? On the Ryder Cup points list. Yeah, I mean, you would have, if you would have taken that bet he had taken that earlier in the year last fall, even where he kind of needed to play some good golf, yeah, I bet she's in the top. I bet he's an automatic qualifier heading into Augusta. Even like, are you on crack? No chance. But like, we've been hyping hyping him. I'll tell you, I think the best way you get an idea of like who's next up is

asked the actual players. And we were sitting around the table at the rock recently. There was a non-golf, not like a professional golfer, a guy that played high-level amateur, and he was talking to a couple of the pros that. He's like, who do you think is the most underrated, like, underappreciated guy on tour? Two players both sitting there, almost in sync with one another, said, JJ Spahn. Really? Yeah, both of them. And granted, they're out here, too. So, like, in Scottsdale, you get to see it. If you ask that question in Florida and Jupiter, they're probably going to give you a different answer, right? But, I mean, the players have seen this coming for a while. And so we were this close to having that JJ Spahn's going to win come true, but the year is young

and his shit's nice right now. Can I say as much as we love him, we're going to prop him up. That put on Friday on the last hole. Yeah. It might be one of the worst putts I've ever seen my life. There was two on the week, actually.

JJ, I love you. I don't know what the hell that was. And he putted great. It was just like all of a sudden, I was like it hit a, you know, sometimes like in the morning when you're warming up and sand gets on your ball

and you hit it and it goes nowhere like to the side. It was like one of those, but it wasn't. That was strange. I was like, this guy leading the golf tournament. What the hell just happened?

like a fellow we like to call Buddy Buddy. But the Rock, that looked like one of his puts. I mean, he left it short from four feet. And low. And it looked like one of those where he hit sand. But he putted it great all week. That's why it was so strange to see. How about the huge putty made on Saturday?

You know, coming down the stretch with Rory Macquarie. Also, we got to give some props to another guest we haven't had on in a good while. But Bud Collie. Yeah, bud. The baby model. That's right. That's right. That's right.

That's right. Little baby model. I mean, dude, 2018. the devastating car accident. His ribs are all mangled. I think he's got metal plates in him, collapsed lung. It wasn't just like, hey,

you're going to have to sit some golf out for a while. I was like, hey, dude, your life might be completely different than it is now. And to come back and do it the way he's done it. Shout out to him. Six events left to fulfill his medical exemption. Got it taken care of this week. So props to him, that's a...

I don't know that that story gets a ton of love, but with how bad that was and where he was at the time for him to come back and be playing not only on the PJ tour, but at a high level. Shout out to Big Bud. He's a dog. One of my favorite golf swings.

It's so simple, so easy. I mean, talk about a guy that I don't think gets near enough love. I mean, like Justin Thomas, they're very close. Justin Thomas will tell you all the time. Like, Bud Colley's one of the best ball strikers he's ever seen. I've heard that from kids that came up with him. He's also one of the few. Like, we've gone through Brian Harmon.

There's a handful of others that are like from when he was this tall, it's six years old, he's been a stud all the way to now. And never, never like falling on. He's still, yeah, he's only a few inches taller than he was when he was six and baby modeling. But he's never been bad. If it wasn't for that car accident, like, who knows? Because that was like, you could argue, like, that's the prime, prime years of his career. And it took the better part of six years, you know, almost six years, five off, more or less to get back.

Really cool story. Also, Danny Walker, who got in Thursday morning when Jason Day with Drew, boy, did he take advantage of that. Goes out there, finishes T6, makes 830-something,000, I think. Totally got his season turned around. you know, obviously everyone wants to be in the players, but to get that call Thursday morning, hey, you got to tease out, and you're playing alongside Wyndham Clark and Jordan Spieth. That was hell of a week for him, too. So congratulations to him on a great week.

I do have some very exciting news to share with you here. Share it with me. On subpar. Okay. So I was just up in Vegas for our good friend, Ben Marsh's 40th birthday. By the way, his birthday was March 3rd. Okay, and we're still celebrating it. Apparently, he's turned into a woman.

He's 40. And it's a birthday month now. He's a man now. But I just learned some awesome news. I was up there at Shadow hanging out with Monty, Montgomery, the GM there. And he goes, hey, I want you to throw this out there on your show. They are putting lights in permanently at Shadow Creek. Permanent lights all the way across.

All the way across. Just like we saw the match, which was electric, by the way. Hopefully it can be as fun as those guys had out there. But, dude, that's all time. I mean, it's already, you and I would, I think, both agree. Like, it's a bucket list play. Like, you need to go, if you love golf, go do it one time. I know it's expensive.

It ain't cheap, but go do it. Now this, nighttime, especially in the summer when it's 150 during the day and no one wants to be out there. You get his mosey on out there around 7.30 at night. Go play 18. That's going to be unreal. That would be so cool. Imagine a summer day, okay? You do a little pool party, then quick, then you go to maybe a little dinner.

And then, hey, we got a tea time at about 9.30 p.m. Yeah, you just flip the schedules. It's really like, go play golf and then send it. Now you send it and then go play golf. Could be tough on the handicaps for some, being that you got to hang out all day in Vegas before you go play golf. But that's going to be cool. That's going to be all time. I'm sure it'll be cheap.

Probably need to do a show from there under the lights. Of course. But that's awesome. I'm very excited for that. And Shadow, once again, you are the best. I spent three days there. I'm exhausted. But it was so much fun.

My game was very, very poor the last day. I'm just honest about that. First day is pretty nice. We do enough self-sucking. Let's do some self-hate. I sent you the video of my partner, Mike Kammer, Yes. The legend.

Loading up his driver with lead tape. Loading. He texted me before the week. He was, partner, I'm on the range at the rock. I got all kinds of tape on the toe of my driver. I'm taking the left side of the golf course out of play. He showed up with a different driver the last day and put six pieces of lead tape. Each, it says on the package, each piece of tape adds two swing weights.

He added 12 swing weights to his driver. Which direction did it go? still going left. Really? Oh my God. What are you here now? It was all. We go from there. We had so much fun. He played great the last day, but I've never seen more lead tape. I was like your driver was probably like an F2 swing weight right now. Yeah, I mean, he's a big boy. He can handle it, but if you put that much on the toe and you're still hitting it left, where do you go from there? It was so much fun. He's one of a kind. I saw the video. I was like, here we go. They're in for a satch. He were sitting at breakfast. He had a package of lead tape and a butter knife putting it on

Is that not how you get ready? Is that not how you get ready to play? You were up there, I believe. No, you weren't quite up there yet. Did you get to catch the creator classic? There was some creators being classic at TPC. Did you see it? I did.

I recorded it. What did you think? Watched it. Congratulations to Grant Horvett. Really nice player. Things are coming up roses for Grant right now. Good swing. Good swinger of the golf club.

FP thought the moment of the creator classic. The put on 17 was just gorgeous. I mean, that's what he does. Rolls the rock. Love that. Trent from Barstool. Course record. Course record 61 in eight holes.

All eight of them. I thought he was going to be the first guy to ever blow out his ACL on the golf course. Yeah. He went down. It was like someone, the sniper caught him. That was one of the most amazing.

I mean, he moved, that was real estate. He moved there at Congress. There used to be a mogul there. That's the biggest divot I ever seen. Yeah. And the ball did not move.

I was waiting for someone to be like, oh, here he is over on 16. Oh my God. He's found an enormous diffit here on Sunday of the players. Props in by, Dude, he finally got one on the green on 17. Made an 11.

I mean, props to him, he knows. Like, they held their qualifier for Barcelona. He knew he was going to shoot a million. And he did, but they went around and did it. He made an 11 on 17, which was one off the highest all-time score, Bob Tway. Was he hitting five iron? Hard green, hard green to hold. I thought he went up.

He had eight out because on 16, they knew how far it was. That was smart. He teed off with an eight-iron to get ready for 17. Yeah, but I thought they audibled out of it into something long. Either way, big brain shit. Go ahead and hit that eight off the T on 16. Speaking of shit. Yeah.

You want to do it? No, I'm not going to hate. I'm not a hater. Bad days happen. I'll tell you this, though. I missed one of the three. I had the three finals picked out. I missed one.

And that was Wesley, Brian, who did clip Trent. He did beat Trent. He did beat Trent. A prop. But he was a massive favorite going in. He doesn't have the best record around TPC Sawgrass. And it showed. I was shocked.

I mean, we were talking how he was like plus 250. to win. He should be minus 250. He's a PGA Tour winner. But hey, some days, it just doesn't go your way. Yep. Some days, he's a great player. You don't win on the PJ Tour, play on the PJ Tour, or not. Had a rough day. It's a lot easier to sit on your couch, like, this guy sucks, this guy sucks when you're out there, cameras in your face, people around, everyone watching. It's a little different. But he's the only one that's really used to that type of environment, but just shows you golf's an evil bitch. Golf's hard.

There ain't no, no one's exempt. from it. We do say all the time, like, how we would love to see just the average guy, go play a PGA tour setup. Well, Trent, I love you. We saw it. Sixty one on eight holes. Probably would have tweeted 18. I mean, that golf course would if you're, we talk all the time how volatile it is, but I mean, when you're just a 15 handicap, you're going to get rather exposed around, and they played it all the way back. All the way back. And like, I mean, the force carries, the island green. I mean, there's certain people, I mean, you could have sat there all day, potentially on 17 and not kept one on the green,

but he stacked up and did it. But yeah, I mean, that just gives you an idea. It'd be so fun, though. They need that series of like, bring the club champion out from all these scores. Give me scratch guys or plus handicapped guys and let them go around the thing.

Even on Monday morning where it'll be softer and easier and know people around, just to give an idea of what they would shoot because that place is like Bay Hill. Oh, God. 9,000. Yeah, it'd be a joke. It'd be fun to watch, though.

Did you see, we're going to get another little glimpse of this. We're not going to get to watch it, but JJ Watt. recently announced that Monday after the Masters, he has got a tea time. He hasn't said he hadn't hit a golf ball in like a year, which probably hadn't hit a ball. I think I saw the last time they hit it.

It was at the Phoenix Open Wednesday pro-am. So he is playing Monday, which is Media Day. David Berson, president of CBS Sports, invited him to tee it up. And he put out there on social media, he's like, how much can I improve in one month? Because I got, I'm full panic right now, getting ready to tee it up. You're talking Monday after the Masters, Sunday, whole location.

It's got a... JJ might be going for a number, bigger than his jersey. He, uh, oh, I'll take it for everything I got. Um, the last time I saw him hit a golf shot,

like live was the shot at glory at Phoenix open the year before last. And like, that's when cameramen get all around close. We almost had a near death. Dude almost lost his nuts from the bachelor a few years ago. Uh, and these cameras were up there and JJ was like, dude, scoot, like, uh-uh.

Get to this like, someone could die here. So he's playing Augusta National, though. That'll be interesting. He should do an over-under on what he'll fire out there if he adds them all up. We'll get some action in there. Yeah, be good. But back to the creator classic. I'm very much hoping that you will be teeing it up at Philly Cricket Club in May.

I have experience around the Chris. Yes, you do. I think we really got to push for this. You're a creator. And I would like to see you in action, possibly maybe carry the bag for you. On the loop? Yeah. Man, it would be a lot of pressure.

That's why I'm very reluctant to talk shit about. about anyone that shot a big number in that thing. I'm like, things can go wrong quickly. And there ain't no escaping it. So, yeah, that's why I will refrain from dragging anyone that didn't play their best golf at the creator classic. But shout out Grant Orvat. Yeah, congratulations. And hopefully he smiles.

Maybe this will bring a smile to his face once in a while. He's a happy man. He should be. See those chompers one time. But if I do caddy for you, I can tell you this, it'll be by far the easiest cadding job I've ever had. Zero doubt. I mean, zero point zero. Taylor Montgomery to the sleazy man, Drew Stoltz.

I would welcome it. I don't even need yardages most of the time. Just feel it. I totally forgot. You know, we like to fuck with Taylor a lot. Of course. I mean, that's what we do. He's a friend.

So we played Saturday at Shadow, and I was so mad because I had planned on getting a pair of floaties and presenting him to him on the first tee after his little whoops at the cognizant. And I forgot. He laughed, though. How did he? How is the game? He's a monster out there.

Typically, right? He wasn't that date. Okay. Put that in your back pocket. It didn't go too well for old Mr. Montgomery against me. Monty fared much better. Okay. Under the lights soon.

We're booking that, by the way. That's going to be so much fun. Well, let's get zoned in with our friends from Zone Nicotine. And this one was a tough one for me, Sleis. Sitting there Friday. Well, first of all, my pick last week was Justin Thomas to finish top 10. Goes out and fires a little 78 on Thursday. Not a great start if you're looking to get a top 10 bet.

You send us a text like, boys, I don't think my JT bet's going to cash. That was before weird shit happens. And then Friday, he goes out there. and gets on an absolute heater, ends up shooting 62 to tie the course record, but he made 11 birdies. Which, you know, early in the week, my wonderful manager, Brittany, sent me a pitcher.

There's a little trivia question on one of the boards out there that obviously upset some, they acted like I made this board. You did make the year the stat guy. Who are the only two to make 10 birdies around TPC sawgrass during the players? Well, there was actually more than two of us that have done it, but my name and Justin Thomas's name was up there.

So I tweeted it and said, Most prestigious list you've ever been on to JT. Well, then he goes out there and he makes 11 on Friday. Just rips my heart out. I mean, a couple years ago was Tom Hogi breaking the course record. Now the birdies.

This sucks, Lise. I got nothing. You're being gradually erased from the annals of history. Yeah. There's really hardly any evidence left. They even play the game, you know?

Pretty tragic. Thanks, JT. I pick you. You shoot 78. Then you go out and you take the one last thing I have going for me in this game. Makes 11. He was zoned in.

Nice bogey on the last, the loser. Why would you hit it in the water when you're 11 under? Have you ever hit it in the water when you've been 11 under? No. Exactly. Me and either. Yeah. But,

I mean, use your brain. What around. Now he's alone on that list for most birdies ever. That's a bit tough one to clip. I don't care how good these guys get up, whatever they do, making 12 out there. That's a chore.

God. That's a sure. What a round of golf that was, though. And then I was like, shit, he might, now he might speak you back to our top 10 this thing. He started off the next day,

Saturday morning. damn near hold his first shot. And I was like, well, here we go. It's still on. But yeah, that was a good time to have it, though. If you're going to shoot a weird one to make a cut, probably do it at the $25 million one. Yeah, you know, I always look forward to the players every year

because I did some cool stuff there. Now I've got nothing. Now I'm just like, now it's just a regular tournament. Painful memory of what once was. This place sucks. I hate it. Yeah. That's how I feel every week.

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Brutal, of course. Extremely difficult. You won last week. Shout out, Patrick Cantlay. I see a kid. I lost. JT. I hate you. But we're going to bounce back this week. I keep, I go every other week. I hit one. That's not bad. That's gambling. Yeah. Yeah. Pretty good record. What do you got? I'm going to go top 20 play. By the way, I really like Tommy Fleetwood this week. I know. he's the betting favorite.

I do think this is the week. He gets that first PJ tour. Call your shot. I do think it. But for my bet, I'm going to top 20 play at plus 280. James Tyree Poston. Plus 280. Plus 280.

Nice. For a top 20. Okay. His last appearance was two years ago here. He finished tied for 10th. Do that again, please. Yeah, dude, top 20 on a golf course that suits him perfectly, straight driver, incredible putter.

And 280, that's a nice juicy. I'm going to stay in my top 20 zone. Got two in a row. Three in a row is a streak, as you well know. I'm a little concerned because I love this bet a lot. And normally when I love things this much, they don't love me back. But I'm going back to the board where it all started. Corey Connors, step right up, my man, top 20, plus 180.

Just finished six at the players. Three top tens and seven events this season. And as you know, just a flush piece. Yeah, he likes a golf course. Sure. I was actually surprised that it was plus 180 on that. And that's what gives me pause about it because I really, I might hit that hard. Okay.

So don't let me down, Corey. I've been your biggest fan. Just try to smooth it out at the top a little bit. Don't get a little quick. Don't get so quick. Just try to fall asleep up there. All right. Well, let's get to our guests this week.

This is, I love this interview. It was so much fun. But this guy, his story is just incredible. We got Monday Q info, fella. Ryan French joining us. And, man, I think y'all are going to like this one. Here's Ryan French on Golf Subpar. Okay.

we got a social media sensation with us today. You've all known to love online. He's single-handling made Monday's great again. You know him by his stage name Monday Q Info, but his government name is Ryan French. We got him here today. French, you what's up, baby? Thanks, guys.

Thanks for having me on. Really appreciate it. This is going to be fun. It's going to be a lot of fun. I'm very excited about this. First off, congrats on all the success, man. I have to think when you first started this, you never thought it would be at the level it is today.

I never even thought that it would ever be a thing. like my son had brain surgery. I left my job. And I never in a million years, like, I didn't even have my own social media. Like, I've never, there was no plan. There was never like, what if this, we didn't even have the conversations of like, would this become a thing? It was literally something for me to do why I watched my kids.

And that was it. And like, somehow it blew up. It's insane. What made you want to start it? Like, what's your background in golf? Yeah. So I played junior college golf. And then I've always been a golf nerd.

we didn't have a TV when I when I grew up so we were watching the Stanley Cup finals our TV started on fire I was like six or eight I don't remember but I remember my dad yelling up to my mom and saying like go grab the fire extinguisher and she couldn't lift it and my dad getting pissed off

running upstairs putting the fire out and then like my parents were not against TV or anything but they were just like oh we'll get it fixed in a week or we'll get it fixed in a month and they never got a new one And so they went 30 years without a TV. And so we lived on a golf course. I was just bored, honestly.

You know, it's like, and my dad was a good golfer. And so I was always a golf nerd. Then after college, this is the craziest part, is my dad and I would go, our guys trip, instead of going to play golf, we would go caddy on a mini tour. So we'd caddy Canadian tour, Hooters Tour, e-golf, and we'd do that once a week and we would camp. And then that got me into, like, behind this scenes. because I played junior college golf,

I knew that guys were good. I knew the talent that wasn't playing on the PJ tour, but I tell this story is like the first, we always used to camp. That was our tradition. And I went into like this public restroom and there was a player there. And I was just like blown away like, what?

Like why is a professional golfer at a campsite? And so he's like, yeah, I play the Canadian tour and I hold my camper on to save money. And I was like, whoa. And so that was kind of like the transition of, realizing like the pro golf we see on TV is not really the pro golf that is out there for a large portion of course there's some thrifty people there is play the minit tours for a long time you got to be a thrifty yeah dude and some of that carries over to like when they get on tour they end up

making it like there you know like that came from the mini tour like Joel's a good you know like still the thought of like spending money or expensive hotels is just foreign yes 100% it's not it is not it is not it is not four seasons it is not four seasons in a campsite in summer and winter. I want to go back to the TV catching on fire because I didn't know that part of the story. So you were literally watching the Stanley Cup and your TV just goes in flames. Yeah. So it started to smoke and then my dad yelled up to my mom.

Our TV was in the basement. And I just remember my dad getting so pissed that my mom couldn't lift the fire extinguisher that was on the third floor. And so my dad ran up, came up. And then, yeah, we just, again, it was not like anything conscious. Yeah. And so, but that the reason. that is a significant part of me becoming golfers,

I had to get all my sports from newspapers, right? And so there's just so much more detail. Like on SportsCenter, you see who won, who finished third, and it was like reading scores of, you know, the buy.com or whatever it was at that time, Ben Hogan tour. And so reading Golf Digest, reading the back pages of like the Tar Heel Tour

and all those stuff. I was just always been, I've always been fascinated with the fringe of any pro sport, like, you know, hockey players, my sister-in-law knows a guy who's, like, had nine games in NHL and was, like, playing professionally in Turkey. Like, that's fascinating to me. So, yeah, that's what has somehow led to this podcast, which is insane. Bull Durham and baseball?

Yeah, 100%. That's what all the best stories are. Even the guys we have on tour, they're like, name brands. Yes. They're like, people gravitate towards more like the mini-tour story, like when they were, had nothing. You mentioned caddying out on the mini-tour, some. The jickey jacks is, we call it here. Who are some of the guys you caddy for?

Like anybody we might know? Yeah. So Ryan Yip was, caddy from the first event I went to, and then we've kind of stayed together. We, like he would, we would go find a mini tour where he played.

And we won on the Canadian tour. When I say we, I just, at that point, like literally just carrying the clubs. No, that's we. That's a wee.

But as you, Drew, you know, like, if you found somebody who knew anything about golf to caddy for you on a mini tour, it was like ecstatic. Like,

you're the best ever. Like, nowhere to stand. And so, yeah, so one on the Canadian tour, another, like, very profound moment of, like, their life and what it looks like. So when, like, have the big check presentation on the green, which is, like, outside of volunteers, there's four people there, you know. And I go, oh, Ryan, where are we going to dinner? And he's like, dinner. I got to get to the next event.

And, like, threw the check in the back of his Honda or whatever he was and, like, took off. And I was like, whoa, this is not what I had really anticipated. I've never heard of like a family being like, all right, boys, pack it up. We're going to money. We're going to caddy at a mini tour events. Yeah. So you knew Yip. Yeah.

So, well, I just threw that. Yeah. So, like, my dad caddy for Graham DeLette one time. Alex Co. Alex Coe was like a good college player. Pepper Dine. And he had the driver yet. Drive off the deck.

Yes. Everywhere. Hit it nice. Yep. Did he play Pepper Dine? Yeah, Pepper Dine. He was a good player. He was one of the best driver off the deck guys.

He's never seen because he got the driver yet. Heaps and he, like, fixed it. Yeah. Hugo Leon. Oh, smash it. Legend. Yeah. He still is.

Smoking darts like a crazy man. I played with him at what was then the Bob Hope out at Palm Springs and he full on punched himself in the face when he missed a putt. I was like, that guy almost just knocked himself out. That was unbelievable. He was a beaut. J.C. Deacon, my dad, my dad had Alzheimer's at the end of his life. And for some reason, he remembers J.C. didn't wear a hat.

And so he was like, I don't know, who's the young man that, like, didn't wear a hat? So he always remembered JC and I have stayed in touch about that. So, yeah, Manuel Vegas, I mean, legendary. The guy can, I swear, like, I really swear a lot. And that guy can swear, like, really impressive. So can his player, Siwu. God, I mean, what a team that. That's a good tandem.

I love Seawu so much. He's one of my favorites. And I was talking to Mani about Cadi Form one day. He's like, you know, I've come along along some crazy people in my day through this game. He goes, my man is absolutely a lunatic. I mean, him and manning together have to be something. That's great. And JC, how about what he turned himself in?

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Say about Aunt Helen. Yeah, so Anne Helen was my lesbian aunt who was an alcoholic for a large portion of her life. Legendary stories. She married my wife and I. She got ordained online for $35. Biggest cheerleader knew nothing about golf would but would show up to events. It showed up to events under the influence of alcohol. She's one of my favorite people.

She was awesome. Well, really one of my. ultimate favorite people i just told the story about she was never arrested somehow uh this has nothing to do with golf but it's pretty funny story good this is better than she she ran into a farmer's field okay and uh like on foot no no in her car okay she was drunk and the farmer called the police uh she got arrested she's on her way to like jail she doesn't remember and the cops either got sick of it or whatever and they sick of her or they had another call and they just let her out on the side of the road and she never found her car like still it's like in the cornfield yeah it's in the cornfield she

didn't know where it was she was so drunk so anyway she uh aunt helen you want to come on the pod of your car dude i don't know it's gone i lost it uh yeah uh yeah she was amazing and she would like one of my biggest cheerleaders she's uh she died a few years ago but like every day would call and ask about what's happening with the account and she's just uh one of my favorite people in the world that's cool That's pretty cool. All right, so you got your aunt there. But I got to think, what was the reaction?

I got to ask, what was the reaction from your family when you said, like, hey, I got this Twitter account. It's kind of going well. I'm going to, like, pursue this for real. Yeah. You got to have some loyal fam. I mean, my wife is, like, there's moments that are so surreal. So my wife is a nurse.

She's going when it really started to take off, it's middle of COVID. And so she was going to work at 4 a.m. to 2 p.m. every day. So she was getting up at 3 a.m. and she was like, you can't quit. You know, I was like, this is insane. I was making no money. And we have two kids. And like, you can't quit.

We got to keep this going. Like, you've come this far. And like, she would come home. And I would be like, oh, you know, the website for the Monday scoring sucked. And she's like, yeah, yeah. I was dealing with COVID from every day. I was like, okay. But blue golf is down.

Yeah. Fucking my whole world out. Blue golf, they don't even have nine whole scoring. And yeah, she was, she is the main reason I'm still here. It was, it was like, I would love to hear an unedited version of my in-laws thoughts on that I didn't have a job for years, why I tweeted about golf and my wife went to work at nurse. But yeah, my parents, yeah, it was like, this is insane that I've somehow made this into a job. And so as any golfer, I very much. can relate to many tour players who have wives, whatever, behind the scenes, or even the top players.

I'm gone now a lot. And, yeah, amazing family. It's such a cool story. I read an article where you said, like, I didn't ever think I would have 500 followers on here, and all of a sudden I do. And I mean, now I believe on Twitter, you have like 177,000 followers. But at what moment were you just like, holy shit? Like, this thing's really going.

Yeah, my holy shit moment is too. I remember calling my wife at work and telling her, I had to, thousand followers. And it was like at at a thousand it might as well have been a million. Like it was just truly like what the hell has happened. I had no like recollection, like no comprehension of what a thousand was. And then the PGA tour followed me at around 10,000. And I was like, oh shit, this is like this might be a thing. Like I was again, to have the PGA tour follow my account was just like you couldn't, I really couldn't comprehend it. Like I again, no Thought that this would ever be a thing so an organization like that following me was really blown away

Was there a certain story that like you posted or something you followed on an event that all of a sudden you went from I don't know I'm gonna make it up 300 followers to three thousand like something that really hit yeah so I was just talking to Jeff who's the The South Florida PGA director and It was a playoff on Tuesday morning of like 2019. I think like 2019-2020 Honda. And it had like Sang Moon Bay and it had like a couple of name guys. And they were just sending me shot by shot updates.

And I was tweeting it out. Just like, you know, Sang Moon's in the right rough. It was like very... Just guerrilla style. Yeah, just guerrilla style. And so I was taking the kids to school. My wife was at work. And it went like six or seven holes.

And people were like so interested. And then I put up a tweet that was like, hey, I can either keep doing this or I got to take my kids to school. Should my kids be late for work or wait, late for school? Let me guess. And again, I don't know how many like responses. It felt like a million. And everybody's like, you got to stay. You got to stay.

And my kids were literally, I tweeted until the end of the playoff. And my kids were like 30 minutes late for school because of the Hyundai Monday quality. That is awesome. Twitter always gives good advice. Yeah, 100%. Yeah. You should always follow whatever followers say. And I was like, holy shit.

Like, people care. Yeah. And like, these are for the casual golf and very obscure players, right? Like, we say Sang Moon Bay, like, he's a regular name. But to the casual golfer, like, nothing. So that was definitely the moment, like, oh, really cares. And then obviously, Corey winning, I was saying, and I continued to say that, like, guys in Mondays can win PGA tour events.

And when Corey won, obviously it just kind of solidified what we were doing. I had a conversation with this sentence is crazy to say out loud, but I had a conversation with Corey at Joel Damon's house on Taco Tuesday, the waste management about that. And just like, hey, thanks, man. It really was a significant point in the development of this account because it kind of proved what I was saying. Now look at you.

You got Dunning clothes on. You got a Calloway hat on. insane. Insane. The whole shit figured out. It's insane that people pay me to wear stuff. It blows my mind. It really does.

Question because you mentioned your big moment for you is when the PGA tour followed you. Didn't you like try to, was there ever interest in like you doing what you do but for the PGA tour and it didn't happen? And then now it's kind of like they've jacked your idea more or less and they're starting to do it? Yeah. The full story is yes, I worked for the PGA tour writing the Monday Q article and Sean Martin. Got me that job. I was really going to be done. And so great, very appreciative of it. I was going to a few Mondays or getting information from sections or like people who followed me or whatever. And they never said anything about media rights or anything like that.

And then I'm the biggest mistake I've ever made the most idiotic thing I've done. So they reached out and said, hey, what are you doing at these Mondays? And I literally still have the email. I said I'm like this big thing about what I do. I like literally like, hey, here's the keys to the castle. And then they invited me out to the waste management Monday. And I was like, hey, the cameraman should go there. And here's the scenarios that should happen and blah, blah, blah.

And then the next week they told me I couldn't shoot videos or pictures at Mondays anymore. So it's like, yeah, it was pretty rough. That sucks. The whole blueprint. Yeah, that's, that's weak. That sucks. And it's very weak. How would you describe your relationship with the PJ Tour now?

Yeah, I don't, I mean, I don't know why it's adversarial, but it is. And I, and I'm sure I've played a role in it. I've taken shots at them that maybe were, I should have kept behind the scenes or whatever. I'm not, it's not, the PJ Tour is not blameless, but I mean, I'm not blameless in this relationship, but I say this to people at the PGA Tour. I had this conversation with someone from the tour yesterday is like, 100% I've taken shots at the PGA tour. I'm frustrated that Mondays are gone,

but 90% of my tweets promote players that they don't promote, and I'm doing it for free. And that's not, I'm happy to do it. I don't want to get paid or anything like that. I just think that at times the PGA tour forgets that, like, I'm on their side. I love the PGA tour. I grew up watching the PGA tour.

I want it to be successful. I love the players on it, and I love the Corn Ferry Tour. my favorite tour in the world. And I'm happy to tell the stories of that. I think it gets lost because 10% of my tweets are critical. I try my best to be as down the middle unbiased as I can. And so it's frustrating to me that it's adversarial. I wish it wasn't. Yeah, it's so weird just to think about everything. Like not all Monday qualifiers are going away. Like we always have to clarify that. There's just certain ones that are. And it's some of the big ones for the most part.

And I think what makes golf so great is you have stories like what you, you write about that they go from being caddies at a local golf course to playing against the best in the world. And I was talking to a big name player the other day about what he would like to see happen in the PGA tour. And he's basically like there's no access. Like people get kicked off each year. People get added on each year. But throughout the year it stays the same. And I'm like, that's not what this is all about. The PGA tour is so cool because of the Monday Qualifier stories. Like what just happened at Phoenix with Will Chandler? Great story. And it's an awesome way just to show because that was the last one, 77 straight years at the Phoenix Open, gone. And are their last

whatever, you get a guy finishing the top six. Yeah. And it was a great story playing alongside the best player in the world. Yeah. I mean, golf has always, what I've loved about golf is, I mean, you can take Will or first stage at Q school. Things aren't always equal leading up to the first stage of Q school, but you put your tea in the ground on the first hole. Scottie Schaeffler and Will Chandler have the same exact chance to go prove it. shoot the score. No one can tell you you're too small or too short. You don't hit it far enough or you don't hit it left to right or right to left. Just go shoot the score. There's plenty of guys I'm sure that you guys have played with that are like, what the hell? How did this guy make it to the

PGA tour? But he's made it. And I think we're getting further and further away from that. Mondays, less cards in the corned fairy tour, smaller tours. Again, the tweet I use all the time is 15 of the top 50 in the world got to the PGA tour in a way that will be gone in 2026. And so the fact is we're going to miss out on some good players. We'll never be able to know that. We're not going to be able to quantify it. You can't say, oh, we miss out on this stories. But that's the facts.

It's like Max Homas of the world and Joel Damon's of the world. Maybe they don't ever get to the PGA tour and we miss out on those things. So, you know, I didn't know that. 15 of the top 50 in the world. Yeah, yeah. It's like, you know, I mean. That's top 50. Yes, I mean, that's the top.

Yeah, I mean, like, you know, a lot. I mean, Max, Corn Fairy Finals, Corey, Monday. Like, you know, Billy Horshels been to Q school four times. Billy got kept his card in, I think, three ways that will be gone. So he finished 140th. You got a medical that's going way down. And he finished 27th at Q school and got his BGA tour. card when there was a bunch of cards available.

And so, you know, Billy went to Q school four or five times. If there's no other places to play, if that avenue is so short, are we going to miss out on future guys? You know, again, it's hard to quantify. I just know that we're going to miss out on top 50. That's just factual. You know, of the top 50, of those 15, would 13 of them would, five of them make it to where they are now?

Yes, probably. But the fact is not all of them would have. And the timing of it, I would say, is like at a time where there's more young talent, like ready to go right now. You still get some of these guys like, like, I mean, we'll use the big examples, like Clanton and these type of guys, right?

Like, they're ready. But there's a bunch of other kids like that. And now there's fewer spots ever for them to get their foot in the door. Yeah, I use Neil Shipley all the time. Like, Neil was one, like, played great, obviously super talented, different personality, which the PGA tour desperately needs.

And he only had four starts on the Corn Fairy Tour this year. He missed this first two. Like, he's literally two starts away from having zero status. It doesn't mean he wouldn't have got exemptions and all of those things. Wouldn't have got every opportunity to do it. But the fact is, you get to the end of the year. This is a kid who has a master's degree. Like, does he keep going?

And the fact is, we need guys, like Neil Shipley. Like, we need him. Like, he's a great personality. He's obviously talented. the dude's made the cut in major. So those are the avenues that will, those are the players, type of players, that we could lose out on.

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Now back to Ryan French. Yeah, we were actually watching full swing another day. My wife watches golf, but not anything. She doesn't know who Neil Shipley is. Right, right. First episode's text me, she goes, I love Neil Shipley. He's hilarious. And that's kind of the audience he brings in,

and there's a lot of others that we have the chance of missing out on. Right, 100%. Again, golf has always been the most democratic sport in the world, and we're getting farther and further and further away from it. So I was saying that, are you pretty worried about the future of professional golf? Yeah. I mean, yes. Because, you know, I think like underdogs, obviously I'm biased guys.

Like I've said that a million times. But the YANGs of the world, the Sean McKeel's of the world, are great stories because of the dominance of the Tiger Woods in those eras and those kind of things. It's so out of the blue. I think I say it all the time as Mondays, Underdogs, the guy who finished. you know, Bob May, taking Tiger to a playoff. Like, those are great in, not happening every week. They're happening one of whatever, one of 15, but I think it's a small, important part of what golf has always been.

And I think Liv not having any, like, the fact is Liv has some of the best golfers in the world and no one watches it, right? And WGCs didn't work out. And now we're here we are back again, doing that again. and yeah, it's concerning. And the narrative around it is just from the fight and the agreement and the breakup is like pro golf is looked at as like, oh, it's like a lot of rich guys fighting over more money, right?

And I think that the other side of pro golf is important to tell as much as you can balance that out. I mean, imagine telling Patrick Reed's story of being a major champion, a rival. Butter Cup hero a star in the game of golf without saying like how did he get there? Yeah, 100%. I think a lot of people forget how he actually got out on the PGA tour. He was a beast.

Yeah, 100%. Like the good dude would make the cut drive with his wife and go shoot 64 and go play the next event. And like, again, I mean, we use Max or Patrick. Max with four holes away from going back to the second stage of Q school, as you guys know. Anything can happen. It's Q school. Anything. You have one bad round, and your career can, and then, you know,

Russell Knox is a great example. Russell missed by like 15, 18. He was just not a good Q school player. And then Mondayed in, top 50 player in the world. So it's like, how many of those stories are we going to miss out on? It's unfortunate. I would say, too, like one thing that, like, you probably the only one that appreciates,

but I'd pay attention to it is like what else has gone is like mini-tour, like actual tours. Like when I was coming out and playing, and didn't have a cornberry card or anything. You could play a full season and you could make a bunch of money and enough to finance yourself for the next year or two. Like, I don't know if that even exists. So guys are going to have to just shut it down early.

Yeah, it doesn't exist. The days of Hooters and EGolf where you could make, you know, I mean, those purses were $250,000. I tell this all the time, we caddied and I didn't take it. I didn't appreciate it back then. But for the people that are listening that don't know how good many tours were, there was Monday qualifiers for Hooters Tours' events with like 50 guys

like a Monday qualifier to pay $1,500 to pay. Yeah. It's insane. It was like the golden era. It was insane. Chad Campbell was just bitch-slapping everyone. Chad Campbell, Ted Potter, smash the entire East Coast.

Ryan Palmer told us when he was on here a couple weeks ago. Like, Chad Campbell actually was paid. Yes. Up front each year to play the Hooters store. Chad Campbell, That's unbelievable. Chad Campbell turned down a Ben Hooker. Hogan or whatever it was card to go play to get a hundred thousand dollar bonus on the hooters

tour it's insane told us the other day yeah that's how good chad campbell was he made 800 like i put this tweet out every once a while but it's like 897 000 on the hooters tour that's um it's such good golf that's ridiculous actually uh chad texts me a few weeks ago asking about a player and i hadn't heard from chad in a while i was like dude we got to get you on the pod like i just want to hear the hooter stories oh my god my goal to one day get like a big room of four former Hooters guys and just imagine the stories like, oh, my God. Once they forgot and then one will go like,

oh, you remember that? Remember that? It'd be unbelievable. No, I know. I wish you wouldn't have brought it up. His stories would be all time. But RP, Ryan Palmer, there's another one. Like, he had to make his way.

How long has he been on tour now? What, 20? He's on his 20th year or something like that. I mean, looking at old Hoosers tours leaderboard is insane. Yeah, you got to grind it out and get, but you could do it and you can make enough money. You could make it out here on the Gateway Tour. There's a bunch of tours.

Now it's like, you go to Canada or like, American, if you don't get that card, you cannot play golf and make money. 100%. So, like, when you were growing up, obviously, I know you're a big fan of the underdogs now, but like who were some of the guys you rooted for when you were watching professional golf, or following, I guess, since you weren't watching on TV? Yeah. One of the craziest moments is I played, I live in a tiny little town in Northern Mission,

and Greg Kraft, who's won one time on tour, and it's like kind of the people that I root for now came and played nine holes with there was a kid in my high school team who was really good and myself and we played a few holes and it was like oh shit like I have no idea how good these guys are and I was you know I was young at the time I was in high school and I was like oh your life must be great and he's like yeah it's not that great dude yeah and so like yeah great crass like all the old grinder names like Brian Watts like Brian Watts went to the bewick open and Brian Watts was like Japan Tour legend for those like you guys know but uh... ERGR yeah and I remember standing behind him and there's a pine tree in front and

I was like oh is he going to go left or right and it was like you know there was like a few feet and he went like right under it and I was like oh man like this is a guy no one knows about so yeah tons of old guys and that just the group I've if you look in the money list from 100 to 150 no matter of those years those are the guys I was following that's cool That is cool. Going back to the Monday Q stuff here for a minute, I'll tell you just, I think some of my favorite stuff that you cover, because you don't get it often and no one shines a light on it more or less. And it doesn't really happen in pro golf, but the cheating scandals that come out, then like blow up, I feel like, is that, like, you post a lot of wild stories, but are those the ones that get the most like attention? The Q school one. The ball dropper Q school guy? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That was the most insane story. That one, when it was on Fox News, I was like, Oh shit. This is so wild. This is insane. Yeah, it's insane.

And then there was one on the Canadian tour, a guy literally erased a score on the 18th hole, made seven. And had the guy sign it in the in scoring and then said, hey, like, I need to check something real quick. And like the other guy had missed the cut or whatever. And as you guys know, like no one would think that he was going to erase it. So the guy leaves. and he erased a card and put a five to make the cut. What ended up happen with that? Because the guy that attested the score,

it can be like, no, not. They were in dining. I got a message from the player in dining. He's like, I just looked at the score, and he's in. Like, I played with him. You know who made the cut, who didn't make the cut. All of a sudden, he's made the cut. And he almost affected the cut line.

So there was a chance that people would have been, had it not been discovered that night, it would have, like, there would have been guys at the airport, the next day who had made the cut like wild story so yeah uh and he admitted it on on twitter yeah he did yeah yeah i mean like i send messages to these guys i have one uh working about the australian tour and i just want to like i i thought i had this guy to the point of like i just want to know what leads to that moment right is this like family pressure your financial pressure like what what is that moment. I think people would be more empathetic

understanding that what led to it. Obviously there's guys who just cheat. You guys know that. But it's like what led to you dropping a ball in the rough is wild. Yeah, go to that ball dropper guy. Sure. People that follow your account religiously. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's a bunch, I think.

Yeah, yeah. Like, they know the story, but most people don't. Can you tell it and like what ended up happening this kid? Yeah, so I had just gotten off a plane from here, from San Diego, actually, and phone rings and, no, I got a text. from a guy in the Nebraska PGA section, and the text said,

you're not going to believe this story. And I get texts like that a lot, and often it's like, yeah, I can actually believe that. And so he's like, a guy just got busted for dropping a ball. And I was like, oh, I really cannot believe that. And so the wildest story ever. So he had claimed there was one article in Gulf Duff. as I claimed he had 30 hole-in-ones, and 18 of them were on par fours.

Come to find out, yes, come to find out Alex Myers was the guy who read it. I got a hold of him, and the guy who dropped the ball was the one who reported his own story. He's like, hey, I got a story for you. Oh, okay. Called the paparazzi on himself. Yeah. So anyway, back to Q school. these two guys

said they no way he could have found the ball a huge thing with the tour officials they eventually decue him the next day the two guys from the PGA section went out to that hole and went back to some other holes

that they had thought maybe some stuff happened they're like the woods is totally thick there's a picture of the two guys holding a machete and they went through the woods and found all of the golf balls. And there's a bed. The picture of the story is he had Taylor made 12s. He would write a purple 12 on it.

And there's a plastic bag of three tailor made 12s that they had found. Didn't he also like there was a blind shot up the hill? Yeah, yeah. So he claimed it went in. Yeah. And everybody. This is at the same cue school. Yeah, yeah.

So he's dropping balls everywhere. And then he's. Same one. He ran up to the green. It was blind. I made it. Yeah. Same one.

So I got a whole like. So, like, I honestly think he may have picked that sight because of blind sight. So on that hole. This is like sociopathic stuff, but you've got to be that to do this. So that hole, he had hit driver the days prior. He had made bogey on the hole before, so he's hitting last. The other two guys hit driver. He hit three wood, so he would be first to hit so he could get over the hill first.

I mean, this takes a lot of like three. So according to the two players, he like semi-chunked it, get up there, and he's screaming, it's in the hole. I have them on the pod, the caddy, and the player that, like, the caddies, like, maybe it bounced off a turkey. No, the player said it might have bounced off a turkey. I was like, what? Off of a turkey? Yeah, there was turkeys there. It's great.

So I went back, like, and so a player, corn fairy player I know, calls me, he's like, dude, I played with that guy. and he had a hole in one or a, yeah, hole in one on a part four. Like, I was with him. It was totally legit. So then 10 minutes later, he called me back. He's like, dude, I'm not like, I was like, let me guess. Like, you guys were all looking everywhere for it as a blind hole. And he's the one who found it in the hole.

He's like, yeah. And he's like, dude, the guy was pretty good. What a legend. What ever happened? Did he admit? Did he like own up to like that other guy? Never admitted. Just coincidence that you find all my balls with this really weird marking and all the spots

that I blew it into the show. I never admitted it. Never admitted it. I've always wanted to do a follow-up story. I can't get all of them. There's no way he can still play stuff. No, no, no. I mean, I'm sure he's been banned by the tour forever.

I know there's a suspension of some sort, whatever it is. That's wild. I can't wait for this new one from Australia to come out. It's a good one. The biggest set of balls on planet Earth to try to pull that shit off. I'll do it over and over and over. Or you can say it takes a lot of balls. Nice.

Oh, nice. Nice. Big and plentiful. Before we get to the E9, I got to ask because it's a tournament that I love. sure, that I know you call the fifth major. Yeah. The Cuda. The Cuda.

The Barracuda Championship in Reno, Tahoe. Yeah. Special. First of all, why do you call it the fifth major? Yeah. So, Mark Baldwin, business partner, good friend, Monday qualified for that event and made the cut. It was just really cool. Mark thought that that would be the end of his career, as you guys both know that pros often say, like, this is it.

But it was a really cool moment. Mark, I've caddy for him a lot. He's played all over the world, played at the Corn Ferry Tour for a few years, China. And he's like, hey, this might be it. And we made the cut coming up 18. And he's just like, hey, man, thanks for this. It was his first made cut ever.

He was 38 at the time on the PJ Tour. And he's just like, man, this is a really cool moment. And like, no matter what, I can say it was worth it. I was good enough to make a cut out here. And so the next. next year we asked for an exemption and got one. And Mark again made the cut. And so it's just been a really special place to us.

It's, I mean, I say it all the time in those weeks. That lines up with the British Open. I argue that most winners at the Barakuta and the British Open, the persons whose life and career will change more is often at the Barakuta than it is at the British Open. Not that, like, if some random pro that hasn't won a major wins it, But if Rory wins a major, obviously significant. But someone who's grinded forever wins the barracuda. It's two years of stability.

It's, you know, all of the things that come with winning on the PJ tour, I'd argue that opposite field events, often more life-changing or career-changing wins happen. Some of the guys that have won there, I mean, Vaughn Taylor made a Rider Cup team, J.J. Henry, who had an incredible record there. Oxy is about to be. Nick Dunlap. Nick Dunlap just won.

Oh, would be won back that every day. Shout out to the snake, Greg Chalmers. Yeah. Go on. The Gregie. The Gregie. I finished third to him, the year he won. He did.

Gary Woodland finished second. I finished third. Yeah. Behind him. Like Greggy's army out there. Oh, it's beautiful. So many ladies in the crowd. He's so good.

Love Chalmers. Hey, like, I agree with you, though, on that. Like, look at Brian Campbell. Just a couple weeks ago in Mexico. Like, that is a life-changing bounce. And not just like, like, like you said, if Jordan Speeth wins it, it's like, okay, there's some more money, good job.

And that, the argument. the argument for opposite field against signature events, like next week in Puerto Rico, almost 100% chance that the winner in Puerto Rico is more life-changing than the winner at Bay Hill. Like, just the way it is, like, if, you know, if Scotty wins Bay Hill, I'm like, okay, great. Like, he's the best player in the world.

Like, insignificant in his career. Not that that win is not every win's not significant, but the guy who wins Puerto Rico is going to be, like, more career changing than... Yeah, because most likely it's going to be a guy that's not exempt. Exactly. The guy that struggled to keep his card every single year. Or someone on a sponsor exemption or Monday quality.

I mean, look what Michael Bradley did down there. 100% when his career was pretty much over both times. I mean, and it revitalizes a lot of careers. Like Billy Horshels played, was struggling for a long time. And, you know, won an opposite field event. And it's kind of back to playing well lately. Aksha, at Puerto Rico's the reason... I mean, he finished second to get a certain amount of points,

and that got him going. Yeah. 100% I will be locked in on an opposite field event. Yeah, the winner of Puerto Rico will cry, the winner of Bayo will smile

when they get the trophy. You know what I mean? 100%. That probably explains it. Yeah. All right, let's get to the United here. Yeah, let's go here.

I think I actually have a couple extra. I just want to hear more cheating stories, actually. I eliminated a few. Actually, I got one bonus one for you at the end. All right, we asked this to anyone, everyone.

You can be anyone else for a day. Other than yourself, anyone in the history of time, who would it be? Shit. Who could have? like golf related or? No, it can be anyone.

Oh my God. What are some of the good ones with that? With that Jesus? We get a lot of Michael Jordan. Who is the one recently? The Wright brothers. The Wright brothers. Wow. That was impressive.

This is great. I don't think that episode's come out yet, so we just spoiled that one. Somebody wants to be the right brothers. I will say that. I mean, Tiger Woods is a pretty good. Like, can you imagine just feeling what he felt? like on the golf course. I'm just so much better than everyone here.

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Let's, I want to ask the side one, just because your story is unbelievable. Maybe one day they write a movie about it. Oh boy. Who would play Ryan French? Oh, man. I like this question. No, no, I don't want any part of this. This is my favorite recurring question.

Who's like an overweight, like middle age, like, middle age overweight, like, who's the, the guy from the hangover? The guy. Bradley Cooper. No, no, not. The other guy. Zach is? No, yeah, Zach is fine. Oh, he's incredible.

Yeah, like dad, bod, kind of. kind of goofy, like, too insane. Like, no one was like, hey, Ryan, you should tweet right about the Elps tour and it'll become a living. Like, no one thought that was going to be a thing. See, that's where you're different than these big time professional golfers who think there was Gary Woodland thought he was Denzel should play him. Yeah.

I've had many Brad Pitt's. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They're all fucking, their self-image is super skewed. Okay. First one for me, I need the all-time, all-time.

Monday qualifying team starting five. Yeah, yeah. I say this, Steve Elker would be probably one. Like Steve, oh, okay. I mean, what he's done on the champion tour literally turned one into it. Like, I mean, this is a guy who missed 21 cuts in a row on the Corn Ferry Tour, like an all-time grinder,

but it's turned it into an amazing champion's career. So him, Patrick Reed, Corey, J.T. Poston, and maybe Kenny Knox. Kenny Knox won the Honda without ever shooting in the 70s. Yeah, he shot an 81 in there when he Monday qualified

and won. It was like blowing like crazy. Nice. Yeah, I mean, there's many. That's a good squad. What's the JT Poston? I don't really know his whole. JT, Monday qualified,

and then like got enough points. I mean, Cam Young, there's so many. Like that's Russell Knox. Oh, Monday qualified on Corn Fairy. Got points. They got on. have like good crew.

Who was the kid? He didn't, I don't know if he's still going, like Monday to shitload of time. Was it T.J. Vogel? Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Like, T. I can't believe I left him out. He didn't parlay it into a big career. Yeah. T.J. I mean, it's a record that will never be broken. He,

in my opinion. He Monday qualified eight times in one season. That's insane. That's like Tigers' cut streak. It is. Put it right next to that. And like, which one paid better.

That is hard as shit, by the way. Yeah. That's insane. Like, it was like 464s, 365s and a 66 or something like it was insane insane I saw one of your things in an article a couple years ago you're like you could shoot 200 under par yeah the entire season on the corn

fairy Monday qualifier not play one event yeah it's like I do a stat every year it's like if you shot these in order you'd never get into a cornfield yeah those is wild yeah so like so three you know I don't track him as close like I don't use do stats like I did as back in the day but like two or three years ago, the average to get, the last spot was 64.8. It's horned ferry. Thanks. I used to show up to him and you'd be like two sites and I'd get to the one of it. It'd be wide open.

You could blow it in the opposite hole of the part five. And I was like, fuck, dude. I'm 63, dude. I'm even 33. Yeah, you three, but the first hole and you're like booking your Southwest. I'm like, fuck it. I'm out. There's no chance.

Yeah, 100%. God, that's the bonus one. You mentioned Cory Connors. Does your wife ever get jealous of your mancraft on Corey Connors? Yeah, a little bit. Yeah. She seems like a reasonable woman, though. Yeah, she's a pretty good woman, but maybe I crossed the line.

What was the first time you actually met Corey in person? Did you tell them how much you love him? I met him at the waste management, like multiple years ago. And, yeah, I mean, I'm sure there's, like, some protective order that I broke. Is that the most starstruck you've ever been when you shook Corey's hand? Yeah, when we talked at Joel, it was like, we'd never really, like, we've messaged before. And obviously, like, he knows. And his wife follows the account.

and whatever. But yeah, definitely the most awkward because I tweet about him all the time. Like it literally, and so it's definitely the most awkward. Like most guys, I've just, like, I've tweeted about him a few times, whatever. Corey's like the person I tweet about that. I love when you tweet that he should be on the Ryder Cup team and people freak out. Freak out.

I promise you, Ryan knows he's Canadian. Freak out. Like, freak out. That's hard to believe. Yeah, no, they're usually super reasonable on Twitter. So you never say anything like mean or take shots at anyone. No. But it's social media. Yeah, yeah.

Like, have you ever gotten one that sticks out, like, the most hate you've ever got? Yeah. I mean, like, probably my, I don't have a relationship, but like Mark does, has a relationship with Phil. And so anytime you put Phil in a positive light, there's 50% that are like, Phil's the greatest and 50% are like, I hope you, you know, run your car into a tree. The funny thing about him I find, too, like, it is such a line, either a pro-fil or an anti-filled guy. If you ask most of the anti-people, like, explain to me in detail why you hate Phil. Yeah.

It's like, I don't think a lot of them can do it. Like, I was told to you on TV, so I just parrot everything they say. Like, a lot of them don't even know. Phil's place in pro golf is obviously complicated his views, but he's been amazingly kind to a great friend and me. and I don't know what else I don't know what else people want me to say It's just like I can only judge him on Your experience with him he's been amazingly kind

See I just love it that people hate on you Who's like doing nothing but promoting the game Like I like to stir the pot a little bit So I understand why I get hated on some Yeah you're just like I feel like you're the most likable Like you shine light on stories that don't Otherwise would have zero light Like how can you get how can you hate that

And you post something about Phil's like yeah One of the greatest golfers ever dude I'm a golf account Yeah I uh It's while I appreciate that. But like, yeah, I'm like, I don't know. I got to play 36 holes one time in the pouring ass rain with one of the greatest golfers of our lifetime. What am I supposed to say?

That's cool. I don't know what the hell people want me to say. Like, oh, this sucks. Oh, this fucking cool as hell. If you haven't been playing with just your buddies on that day in those conditions, would you have played 36? No, I wouldn't even thought about playing golf. I mean, it was insane. So we played the day before.

It's fine. It's great. I mean, Phil's great. I always, when people ask me this, it's like about four or five holes in, you know you're playing with Phil Mickelson, but it gives you shit like you're playing with your boys. So you kind of forget as much as you can that you're playing with Phil.

And then the next day was supposed to be a monsoon. And we're like, well, we're not going to play. And so we go, Phil, what's the plan for him? He's like, what do you mean? We call it a mud day. And yeah, so we went to his house in the morning, and I was hitting Phil Mickelson logoed balls in Phil Mickelson's backyard. I didn't have a rain suit, so Phil gave me a Phil Mickleson rain suit, and Phil Mickelson was giving me a lessons. That's a mind fuck.

So how I met Phil the day before, he shows up, like Mark had played with him a bunch. Phil shows up, comes up, and I have the chipping ifs. I still have them, but really bad back then. And he shows up, drives up, hands me a coffee in a Phil Michelson logoed coffee cup. And he goes, all right, we're playing together. You can't fuck this up. Show me how to show me some of your chips. And I'm literally, I mean, I was a scratch golfer at one time in my life.

I literally cannot keep a ball. And we're like 10 feet away from the green. And I'm chunking and sculling chips across the green. I hit 10 and I didn't keep one on the green. And in front of Phil Mickelson, the greatest golf. And that's how I met him. It's like, oh, shit. And he's like, oh, this is more fucked up than I thought.

I was like, yes. By the way, you didn't have the chipping gifts. That's a good way to get them. Yeah, yeah. You chip in front of your idol, you know, on a rainy, shitty day. Yeah. Well, one of my E-9s was how close were you to actually going to see an African shaman? Oh my God. Before Phil helped you with your chipping yips.

Oh, my. I mean, like, so, I mean, I was, I was in dark places. Like, quit the game, dark places. It was really bad. Like, I'm an okay ball striker, and to shoot 85 every time is rough. What was the, I mean, this is fascinating stuff that you got to work with him, and I heard he did really help you. He did. What was the one thing that helped you the most for a guy that struggles with the yps? Yeah, I mean, he just gave me, like, when I had the yips, it was like every chip was different.

like, I would be like, oh, I'm going to put my weight here, hands here. And so really it was just like, get me to the right place and know that I can work on that. And it's correct. Like, even if I yip it, like, I'm doing the right things. And so it's like, he's very much hands forward, weight forward, and then push, like, it's all speed down to your pocket. Like, so I do a one-handed practice swing of just, like, pulling it down. And so it's really helped. And like, but,

Phil's helped a bunch of players quietly. And so, yeah, again, he's been super good to me and Mark. That's a cool moment. I still think you should have went and saw the shaman. Yeah, I mean, we were there. Let's not put that to bed. Do it just for a story. You should do it in document the whole shit, because I want to see what they say.

So go ahead. Excuse me. So I want to show you to know I have the chipping yips. Please help me. They're like, all right, we'll figure it out. Yeah. All right, you can't say Phil, since you just told that story, but I was curious, craziest person or most.

most famous person you've gotten to meet or become friends with as a result of Monday Q info. Yeah. Probably Aaron Rogers. Like, Aaron has been super good behind the scenes to me. We were just talking about it before we started, but I had streamed the Scottsdale Open, which I think was the only sporting event going on in the world at the time. And you could see who, like, who came in to watch your stream. And it said Aaron Rogers.

And I was just like, oh, it's a fake account. and then maybe a couple weeks later he messaged me and I was like what the hell is happening and so he's been he's been super nice he wants to keep this on the download so now I'm going to tell it on the pod nobody's listening yeah it's fine but like I would put out I've tried my best to help players if they get car stolen or they need money whatever and he just message me and be like hey is this is this a good dude or good player and I'm like yeah And he would either Venmo me, money, and then I would Venmo the player, or he would do this anonymously on GoFund me.

And, yeah, he's been amazingly awesome. He's helped my foundation a few times. He's just, again, public persona and private, think what you want about Aaron, but my experience with him has been nothing but amazing. That's all you can go off. That's cool. And that's also props to you for building something that a guy like that. Yeah, it's insane.

That's got still open. That was cool. That was legit. You played it. It was the only shit. It was the first live thing going on. I think it was the only sporting event going out of the entire world at the time. That's crazy.

Joel played in it. What's bigger than the Scottsdale open? Nothing. That's one of the early days of my beef with Alan Shipnook started with the Scottsdale open. Oh, yeah. That's where he's. Oh, Alan was there. That's right.

Yeah. You didn't take kindly to that. Yeah. Well, yeah. Anyways, I've moved past it. Tuck it in. Tuck your shirt in. Slop.

Is that what he said? No, no, no, no. He said. Oh, in the article. It was something about it. There was a picture of me and something, well, we had had beef in the past, which we're not going to get into. I would love to get into. But I had my shirt.

The Scott's still open. It's 100 degrees. We're all having fun. Me and Joel might be having some white claws or whatever going on. But he said something. Apparently, tucking your shirt in is optional at the Scottsdale opening. You're right. It is.

And I said, thank God reading your articles is optional or something like that. And that's what kind of. By the way, tucking your shirt in at any jickey event is optional. Yeah. You show up sober and on time. You're already ahead of the game. You don't even have to be sober in many of the years. Good point.

Asked at Helen. At Helen. Love it. Okay, you've caddy for Mark Baldwin. You're caddy for a lot of people. But one of the greatest to ever do it, Mike Fluff Cowan. Oh, man. Give me your favorite fluff story.

Yeah, so Mark got an exemption into AT&T. And then we're on the cut line on Saturday. So three-day cut at the old AT&T. And Peter Jacobson was, in our group. It was his first PJ tour event, so he's coming back to have it be his last. He had fluff on the bag back then, so Fluff came back. Again, you were paired with him? Yeah, we were paired with him. And he knew he was going to not make the cut.

So he was like cheering for us because Mark was, you know, like got this exemption, lifetime opportunity. And then like Huey Lewis was finally, it's a craziest week in my life. Like, totally insane. But Fluff was there. He's like super nice. So we're on, I can't remember the hole in Monterey. and Mark hits it pretty long, and there's a creek out there. He had birdied the previous two holes, like kind of on a roll, have a lot of momentum, and there's a creek out there like 300, and he's like, we're debating about laying up or hitting it over.

And we're going back and forth, and I didn't push hard enough for driver. I thought it was driver. And Mark's over it with the three wood, and right before he's about to pull it, he comes back, gets a driver, hits it over. So we're walking down the fairway, and I said, to fluff, I go like, hey, I thought it was driver, should I have pushed more? And I may have added this part. I feel like he took a drag off his cigarette, but I might have added that to like make the story better. But he like takes a drag off of his cigarette and like just turns

me and goes, if you got a cannon like that, you let it loose. And that's all he said. And I was just like, wow, this is the craziest. Yeah, this is super surreal. I love that guy. From your mouth to the gods ears. Yeah, 100%. I'll tell you a good story. All fair. Yeah, he's the man. All-timer. Okay, when you think of the, I hear the word Monday, I think of you. But there's a lot of songs over time that have the word Monday in the title. I need the best song with the word Monday in the title. I come up with a few if you need a refresher. Yeah, go ahead.

You want to like, I just picked like what I thought were the biggest ones. You got Monday Monday by the Mamas and the Pappas. Manic Monday. Remember that song? That's like the teeny pop, like any high school movie that plays. That's a good one. Also this though. Come Monday, Jimmy Buffett.

Oh, yeah. The legend. Monday because like Monday's kind of suck. It could be like your theme song on your, yeah, yeah, it should be. Yeah, there's a lot of options, by the way, if you don't like that way. Yeah, yeah, all right. Fair enough. All right. Um, next one. Are you more surprised? Guys don't slam three beers

when they're heading into a playoff for a Monday qualifier, much like, is it Nick Beans? Yeah, Nick Benz. Ben's? That's true. He slammed three beers before he goes into a playoff. Yeah, so worked at Golf Galaxy. Again, this is, we'll tell the funny story, but the fact is, It's like this is why I love Mondays, right? Like this is a kid who might make it, probably won't make it, right? The odds are stacked against everyone out there.

But worked at Golf Galaxy, like 30 hours a week, practice when he could, played mini-tour events when he could, comes up to, drives up to the rocket mortgage, gets through the pre-Q, drives back to Indiana, works a couple shifts, drives back up on Monday and shoots 65. And I, like, I'm talking to him and I go, hey man, can I just interview you? and he's like, has a beer in front of him. And I'm just like, what's with the beer? And he's like, man, I'm so nervous.

He's like, I'm just going to have like three beers to calm my nerves. And so it looked like 65 was going to get in clean at the time. And as Mondays often do, like three of the last four groups had a 65 in it. And so it became a five for four. And then I was like, oh, this kid has no chance. Like zero. A, he's had three beers, like totally out of his element, never been in a position like this. Like never.

there's no chance. He's going to make double on the first hole 100%. And the kid makes seven pars and a birdie in an eight hole playoff and gets through. I mean, and literally was just like, boom, fairweight, green, like good putt, but wouldn't fall. And that was a five for four?

It was a five for four, went down to a two for one eventually. That's a long go though for 100%. And it was surreal. And it was just like what I love about Mondays, right? And it turned into a huge story. He was on the Pat McAfee shows. Like, it was crazy.

And it's just like he got huge sponsors. And, you know, for these guys, like, a significant amount. And, like, he's still working at Golf Galaxy, but less. And, I mean, that week changed his career. At least gave him a chance he always says is, like, he earned enough money to, like, give it a true go where he can be like, yeah, I gave it all I could. Whereas, like, if you're working 35 hours a week, you always have, like,

if I could have just. So, and again, I always say is, is the Corey Connor's stories, Patrick reads, all those guys is great. But like Nick Ben's, like he's going to tell that story for the rest of his life. And that's, that to me is what makes Monday's great too. It's like, yes, there's guys who change their career, but there's also no opportunity like that in sports. Like there's no Nick Ben's stories on the Lakers. I think I might have three beers before I play today. Just an honor of Nick Ben's.

I know there was any other option. I was like, is how you warm up. I love that. Oh, my go? Yeah. All right. I got one left.

Time machine. Get in it. Yeah. Go back to your 21st birthday. Oh. The Division II National Championship. You're playing for Lansing College. Your parents decide to come to North Carolina to watch you.

I need to hear it all. One of the best stories ever so. Yeah, playing community college golf. Like, if there's such a thing as good community college golf, we're at, well, like, 9th in the nation. I'd make like, it's back when I was decent at golf, like made all regional team. So go down to the national championship. Our coach was an older guy just been divorced, like full-blown partier. Like we would get hammered before most events.

Hell yeah. We got seven teams kicked out of one tournament one time. We were at a party in our hotel room. That's a good strategy. That's a good strategy. No, but we got kicked out too, unfortunately. So I turned 21 after the second round. And my parents had driven from northern Michigan to North Carolina.

I mean, it has to be like 15 hours, right? And so they take me out to dinner and we have like one drink to just be like, oh, yeah, about your first legal drink. And my coach is like, oh, we're partying. And what a coach. The second round of the National Chamber. Yeah, yeah. So we go out, we're in like fifth place or something.

I think I don't remember my exact source. Two mid-70s and then this round. And so we go out, go to the bar, and then we go to, I believe they're called shoe shows, you know, adult clubs, a strip club. There you go. And we're there until three in the morning. And I am hammered.

I mean, so drunk. We get into, we have to tee off at seven. Like 100% we drove drunk to the, I mean, our coach was 100% drunk. There's no way around it. I was going to ask me his name, but now I'm not. It's in a book. So we get there.

It's North Carolina in June, right? It's like 100 degrees. We're all in the van, like, completely hung over. So I go to the first team, not hitting a ball. Like, I'm in really bad shape, like bad shape. So I was like, man, this, I'm not even sure I can play, you know? And I striped the first one. And I was like, oh, my God, we'll be okay.

We're going to be fine. We're going to get. through this. And I hit the next wedge. I sculled it so bad that I had to, like, I flew it into a pond that no one was sure was like what to do, you know, like 60 yards over the green. I was like, oh, I'm not going to be okay. I shot 99. I haven't shot 99 since I was eight years old. I ended, I puked in the weeds. The school we were playing with from Tyler, Texas, won the national championship and a few of their parents

called our school about us, about how inappropriate we were. I played the 18th hole with no shoe. I played the last four or five holes with no shoes on. I was vomiting. I mean, I shot 99. My scores are like 74, 76, 99, 78, or something like that. Hey, way to tough it out, though, and break 100.

Yeah, 100%. The six foot. It was a six foot. I didn't know what it was for. I didn't care. know, but looking back, like one of the most clutch spot. Monster six foot. Yeah.

So, I mean, yeah, I was, luckily my parents were very cool about it because I cannot imagine driving 15 hours one way and watching your son. I was vomiting in the weeds. I was dragging my, on the last hole, I couldn't even pick up my bag to put it on my, I was just dragging it down the fairway. I had no shoes on. What a representation of the school. You were a six footer away from probably being in legendary status.

Kenny Knox. Like, you didn't have anything in the 80s or the 90s, but we had 70s and 100. Nothing. Oh, man. That was a lot of fun. We shot like, we would have, we finished ninth in the nation in, in our division. And like, we had like a score. It was like 300, 300, 300, you know, three, yeah, 400, 300. It was like, holy shit. Yeah, it was, it was bad news. Coach of the year, in my opinion. Yeah. We used to drive the van all the time. Like, he would get drunk. underage and he would be like you gotta drive the van another great story i could do a pot on just him but you should uh we go to indiana and they didn't have us alcohol attacks and so he bought a whole case of alcohol like at this liquor store he was going to take it back home and he had been drinking

and he came out of the came out of the liquor store we're all in the van and he trips over one of the parking things and the whole case broke oh no yeah yeah it was a good idea at the time It was a really good idea. Saving a bunch of money. Excuse me. There's something wrong with these. I need to replace these. Yeah.

Yeah, it's good times. That's good. All right, last one. I was born in Ohio. Spent a lot of time up, obviously, in the Midwest. Bob Evans is a staple. Yes. Up around there.

A lot of people around here probably don't know what Bob Evans is, but most famous person you ever ran into in a Bob Evans. Yes. Oh, man. So, it's the Buick Open. I used to work for a restaurant group in the, Detroit, Flynn area. And we go to breakfast and Kent Jones, people listening, there's a large portion of people who don't, yeah, who don't know who Kent Jones is, but legendary grinder,

tiny little dude, blonde mullet, like just legend in many ways. And so Ken Jones is there. And I go up and say, like, hey, Kent, and then I don't know how the conversation, but I was like, does anyone know ever come up to you? And this is way before they come. This is years ago. And he's like, man, you need a hobby. If you know who I am, you know, Brad. You know, got shit going on.

This is like pre-Early internet or pre-internet. It's not like everyone's face and stuff was out there. And he's like, dude, you need some help. And I was like, yeah, fair enough, fair enough, dude. I'm sick. Yeah, I have a sickness that has led to this. He was out there obviously when I was getting going. And then that's when Mike Jones, the rapper is famous.

Mike Jones. The widows Kent Jones. It's awesome. First off, this has been awesome. So much fun. We might have to have you back and just tell Lansing's stories. But for the people out there listening, because I know they like to help out foundation and stuff,

what's your foundation and how can they help? Yeah, drive for the future. Another crazy story is I was helping high school teams in need. So like high school golf teams, I don't have good equipment. And a follower of mine who played on an eGolf tour for a long time, called me up and it's like, love what you're doing. I'm going to give you $100. thousand dollars to start a foundation and so um we've given away a half a million dollars worth of

equipment to the high school golf teams in need our goal is that economic barriers are not the reason people don't want to play golf so if they want to play golf we want to be able to give it to them so yeah well super what's the website yeah drive for the future.org um and uh yeah it's it's um it's amazing we're going to have an event in old barnwell coming up. And it's just me and a family friend who run it and do the best we can to get equipment to kids in need. So if you're a high school team in need, fill out an application and we can always use support. You're good man, Frenchie. Yeah, you're good man. That was a lot of fun. I really appreciate you coming on with us. Thanks, guys. Thanks for having me on. You got.

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Own your zone with zone nicotine pouches. I love it. And I love that interview with Ryan French. He is awesome, dude. His 21st birthday golf story. College coach. Sounds like a G. It's college coach.

But if you're listening, you're around, you want to come on subpar? I love to have you. You think he's still there? God. You think he'll survive this interview? HR might come a knock in and say, we heard a few rumors. You know what? The only thing that sucks about that is the way the PJ tour did him dirty.

Like he came out, he started this thing from scratch, just covering obscure stories, Monday qualifiers. It snowballed. People are showing interest in it. They get in communication with one, and he basically gives him, like, the blueprint of what he's doing. and then they don't, they just ghost him and start doing it on their own. Bush. Yeah.

And just, I mean, you know how I feel about Monday qualifiers. Like, I love them. They make great stories. And he's so good at telling these stories about players. Most people don't know. And the fact that a lot of these Monday qualifiers are going away sucks. I hate it. But I love his work, man.

He's great. Yeah. He helps, like, get, you know, clubs donated to kids that need them and clothes and things like that. There's so much good that comes out. I don't know why the PJ Tour didn't just lean into that big. He'd be awesome. We'd love to have. have him and there's no downside to it.

But shout out to him. Cool story. Cool ride for him. Yeah, it's, it's been wild. I mean, to think just randomly started that to now, this is his job.

The cheating stories are all time. Yes. I totally forgotten about ball dropper guy. Yeah. Just three of them. What an absolute fucking lunatic. Yeah.

Oh, the whole out, the whole out eagle, blind. I got 17 all in one, 14 or on blind part fours. Yeah. Oh, I found it, guys.

Remember that shanked? It's in the hole. Wow. It takes a brass set. I really appreciate. him coming by the studio and sitting down with us. Very special treat for you folks coming up here

soon. Y'all been asking when we're having him back. Well, the time has come because he's coming into the studio in a couple of days. But the Hall of Famer, the legend, George Brett, will be back with us. There's only two type of people in this world. Those have shit their pants and... Those who haven't yet. There you go.

We'll be back. We got pamphers in the building just in case the moment strikes. It's going to be good. We don't have to do shit. Just tee them up for stories and let them go. I have a few pops, like the old days. I got to tell this story real quick. Okay, so he just called me on the way over here. He's like, you'll never guess what I'm doing.

I always love when George calls. I'm like, what? He's like, I'm at the zoo. He's like, I was like, come really? He's like, yeah, got my nieces in town. They wanted to go to the zoo or at the zoo. He goes, do you know, right when you walk in, there's a sting race. He goes, you can feed them.

He was cool. You have to pay five fucking dollars to feed these sting race. He goes, I hope they don't have to do that every time they go look at an elephant. He's just, that's George Brett. He's the greatest. Sorry about your five bucks for feeding the stingrays. I'll reimburse you. Careful with the stingrays.

They got crocodile hunter. Yeah. They can get anyone. But I cannot wait for George to come in here. Have a couple Coors lights. Yeah, just how it should be on this show. You know what I mean? Kickback.

Have a couple. All right. Well, that was an interesting episode. We'll talk to you on next week's subpar.