Subpar - Nick Taylor on the importance of his victory at the Canadian Open, rooming with Joel Dahmen at Washington

Episode Date: November 21, 2023

On this week's episode of GOLF's Subpar, 3-time PGA Tour winner Nick Taylor joins former PGA Tour pro Colt Knost and jicky jack legend Drew Stoltz for an exclusive, in-studio, interview. The first Canadian to win the Canadian Open since 1954 talks the importance of that victory to his career, being paired with Phil Mickelson during his victory at Pebble Beach and what it was like living with Joel Dahmen at the University of Washington. ----- Subscribe to our new YouTube Now: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCt5ESUx6omMUsMoEKvMTzlA Shop The Birdie Juice Collection: https://fairwayjockey.com/collections/birdie-juice Follow Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/golf_subpar/?hl=en Follow Twitter: https://twitter.com/golf_subpar?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor ----- This week's episode of Subpar is brought to you by Cincoro Tequila. The Blanco, Reposado and Añejo can be enjoyed in cocktails, straight up or on the rocks, it’s the perfect golf course companion. So if you haven’t already, go to Cincoro.com or your local store to buy a bottle and try the delicious liquid. ----- Thanks to Ralph Lauren, the Official Outfitter of the United States Ryder Cup team and of GOLF's Subpar.  The RLX Golf collection is available in select Ralph Lauren stores, exclusive private clubs, and resorts, and online at RalphLauren.com. https://www.ralphlauren.com/brands-golf?&utm_source=OtherPartners&utm_medium=GolfSubparPodcastRLSponsorship_GolfSubpar_PodcastPlacement_2023_GolfSubparPodcastRLSponsorship

Hello world, welcome back to golf subpar, Colt Nost and Drew Stoltz. Before we get going, make sure you go check out our YouTube page, Golf underscore Subpar, subscribe, like, and you definitely want to look at our handsome faces, which is the best part of the deal. Of course. Everyone wins. We got a nice little video coming up shortly with the great Joe Skoburn and Joe Griner,

two of the greatest caddies in the history of golf. And Jim Bones-McKide, don't leave him out. Of course. And also, go to Fairway Jockey, check out our merch. Got some great stuff coming at the end of the year as well. Speaking of great, Ludwig O'Bair. O'Bare, correct. The man is on the rise, picks up his first PJ Tour win in his 11th start.

The guy is absolutely a machine. I mean, I don't think it's going out on a limb to say this guy has the potential to be number one player in the world. And he's going to be top 10 in a very short time. He's already up to 32 in the world rankings, I believe. He hadn't played a major yet, and he's going to be one of the favorites once he starts playing at him. So depending on what site you look on, right now for next year's math, Masters, which will be his, like you said, his first major championship. He's anywhere from the eighth to 10th betting favorite.

And his debut. Yep. Yeah. I mean, looking at his golf game, it's like, all right, what major championship or what venue doesn't that work for? Hitting it perfect, pretty much plays everywhere. But, like, you think it like a U.S. Open, the way he drives it. He just hit the 50 round minimum for the PJ Tour to be ranked in all the statistical

categories out there. And he is one, two, three, four, and virtually every single category that matters and determines, like, who the best players in the world are. I think he's number two and overall driving. Off the T, I believe he's one. He's the best there is. Third and greens and regulation. Yeah.

Second and strokes in proximity to the hole. So, I mean, if you like hitting it really far and straight and hitting all your irons really close and giving yourself a lot of looks, you're going to be really good at this game. This week at the RSM, the categories he led in was basically every single one. And you don't shoot 61-161-122 on the weekend, lowest in the history of the PJ Tour, by the way, on the weekend without being real good at everything.

So all this hype, everything we've been touting, for a long time, starting to come to fruition. He's already won on the DP World Tour and the PGA Tour quickly. Dude, it's hard to see it slowing down, honestly. And he's been close. This could very well been multiple wins in this short period of time for him on the PGA tour. He's been, you lost that playoff to Luke List. Like, it's hard to see the brakes pumping for this guy.

Yeah, you mentioned the 61, 61 ended up shooting 29 under for the week. Tide Justin Thomas's all-time PJ Tour record for lowest 72-0 score of 253. Just an absolute clinic. I mean, McKinsey Hughes goes out there and shoots 60-63 on the weekend and loses ground. 123. And you further away on the weekend, by the way. And just watching him play it. Dude, it's just like, you see him pull that driver out and it's just like, dude, this is ball speed 184, 182.

And it's on a string. It's in the fairway. And there's just nothing like he finally might miss a green here or there. And he chips it up dead, taps it in. Seems to make everything. You end up winning by four. That thing was closer than it then look like a four-shot win, you know, late in that back nine. but dude, it just happened quickly.

And like I said, it is hard to see that going anywhere because if you're building a prototype golfer for this day and age, like that might be him. It's everything. I totally agree with you. I mean, I've had the chance to walk with him a few times. And from the second, I laid eyes on him in person. I'm like, yep, he's got it. And I know a lot of people say people are quick to anoint guys the next superstar,

but I just don't see how this kid isn't it. He is that good. he's got, I mean, Rory McElroy-like driving ability. His iron game is fantastic. By the way, he's a pretty damn good putter. He made unbelievable putts on 17 and 18. 17, the one was going about Mach 12, hit the back of the hole, ended up going in.

But then even the one on 18. I know he had several putts to win, but just trying to black it down there, it ends up going in. He is special. He was obviously a guest of subpar, which led to this wind. Just another victory. Huge feather in his cap. Yes.

Early on in his career. I know it's like somebody wins and like, here come the floodgates and that's the thing. I try to hold off from all that whenever possible, but I'd be willing to go out on a limb and bet whatever that this is a future world number one. That's like not even a stretch at all. It's just it's more how long will it take him to be world number one

because his golf game, it's like he's one of the best drivers. He's one of the best in every single category that matters. Okay. Well, speaking of not the best in every one of their categories, I played a little bit up at Pebble Beach. How did we do? This past week.

Not good. Miss Cut. Okay. Had an amazing time though, which is all that matters. Off the course. Strokes gained off the course? Million.

Okay. Leading. On the course, not that great shot. Even at Pebble on Thursday, not too bad, but had an incredible time. I play with each day you play with a different pro-am group. Got had great groups. And my man, Ross March Banks, made a hole in one.

Wrong place in the world to make a hole in one if it's not open bar. Because I don't know if you know this, things at Pebble Beach are rather expensive. Maybe the worst place and the worst environment around all that many people that are like involved in that event to make an ace. Also, the worst rule in the history of sports. Like, oh, congrats on the career shot. Maybe you do it once or twice for most people in their lives. Now you can dump a few grand out for all these people you don't know so that they can get blasted.

Terrible rule. It is a terrible rule. I felt bad for Ross. His friends are not very nice. They ran up the tab pretty good. But hey, you made a hollow and white at Pebble Beach. Pretty damn cool. Something he will remember for.

Forever. And something I will remember forever. I've got to say about this little story right here because feed me. We've never had him as a guest. He's actually very upset about that. And I told him if he ever did anything cool, we'd have him on. But former PJ tour player, John Mallinger. We've tried, we've talked to him, I've talked to him multiple times about it. Open invite, Johnny, let's go. You have to talk on podcasts as well. You don't just sit there and look pretty. Be yourself, but the opposite. And everyone will love you. But, you know, we like, we like to give our friends a hard time, try to pull some jokes on them occasionally. That's what we do, right? So after the hole in one, we're sitting in the grill room there at Spanish Bay.

It's beautiful Friday afternoon. Drinks are flowing. It's 3.30 p.m. in the afternoon on the West Coast. Which means, you know, it's 6.30 on the East Coast. That checks out. TVs are on there in the grill room. The golf's on. I was like, this little idea popped in my head.

I was like, you know, let's see if I can get my man John on something here real quick. Didn't think there's any chance, but golf is on. they're showing the RSM classic Ludwig, McKenzie Hughes, all the boys up there. They're through six holes on Friday. Wow, late tea times. 3.30, California time.

I was like, John, I'll tell you what, I think this Ludwig, I mean, he's got it. He is the real deal, potential world number one. I think he's going to run away with this tournament. I bet he's leading after the round today. After 36 holes. And he looks up and he was down three at the time. He's like, okay, what do you want to bet?

I was like, I don't know, 100 bucks. He's like, let's make it 500. He said, you got it. You know what? But fine. Fine. Fine. No problem. Even odds, by the way. It's going to like, he's going to realize, oh, God, it's dark. It's the island.

It's dark here. Yeah. It's getting dark. This thing's already over. Yeah. So I texted a bunch of the guys around the table. They're all having to laugh about it. Just keep it quiet for a while. Drinks continue to flow. Ludvix threw about 12. I was like, God, he's three back. John, he's got to get this thing going. He goes, this is the easiest bet I've ever won. Great. Oh, boy. Yeah. If you only knew.

I go to dinner, come back. I was like, oh, John, did you check the PJ Tour app? He's like, oh, let me look. Oh, you won. He's an 11 under or whatever. I was like, man, that's crazy. What a win that was for me. Wow. Luke. Yeah.

Meanwhile, he's pissed. I go to dinner, and his friends told him that I absolutely screwed him. Actually, I didn't screw him. He screwed himself. He made the bet. We shook on it. He made the stakes. I just agreed to everything.

Should he have to pay me? Yeah. You make a bet? You pay. Have you gotten paid? No. $500 outstanding. Yep.

With interest rates now. is i don't need to tell you about that yes this is a crazy juice how about my crazy juice pga tour player tour player very aware of time zones it's like the oldest dude you can even get like non golfers on coverage where let's say the leaders minus 13 and they're like oh let's pan over to number six here for jimmy john he's sitting at plus one on the par 312 and it's a 40 footer and you'd be like dude this guy's the best 40 foot putter i bet you he makes i bet you 100 bucks he makes this and of course they make it because it's delayed and that's the only reason they're showing them, but like a golfer knows that.

Just like golfers know, oh, it's 3.30 here on the West Coast. Yeah. Maybe they're done, but I will say. You have a few pops you get going with the boys. I mean, it can happen. The Sincorro was flowing. We were sipping.

We were having a great time celebrating Ross's hole in one. So I'll give them a little bit of a pass. But I'm happy to be sitting across from you drinking my favorite podcasting and golfing cocktail, the Sincoro Club. It's easy to drink here on the course or in the clubhouse. The cocktail features Sincorroro's represent. Pasado tequila, which is aged in Tennessee whiskey barrels for eight to ten months. Sincoro is great tasting tequila because it's rich and delicious and has long, luxurious finish,

much like my golf swing. When I drink Sincorro, I think of my own moments of greatness, sleeves, which there's obviously a lot of them. Plentiful. I'll give you a recent one. What do you got? This was something new for me. This last week, Pebble Beach, Wednesday, number seven, the famous par three.

The wind was blowing so hard. I actually hit a little six iron. Nice. Good hold of hit six. For all you haters out there, it's normally, the next day I hit sandwich. So don't say it's a hundred and five yards. Yes. Yeah.

But a little six iron. How about that? That's golf. Five yards. That's golf. That is, it was wild. So that was one of my favorite memories of late. What you got for me?

Favorite memories of late? Well, upcoming member member at the Rock, which I'm sure will finish runner up as we often do. But I mean, probably just the countless member guests that I came saw and conquered over the years. Water Runner Up finishes in those as well. All right. Well, cheers to that. Here's to you, doggy. Big season for us.

Can't wait. More tequila. It's upon us. I actually drank this last night. Family got in town from the East Coast. We're having a little family gathering. Guess what we broke out. Sincoro.

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because what a story this was this year. Nick Taylor, the Canadian-born Vancouver up there. A lot of golf. That's in the west side. A lot of golf talent. Vancouver, one of the greatest cities in North America, period. But one of the greatest moments in golf. off this year. You know, it's been so long since a Canadian player has won the Canadian Open, their National Open, and Nick Taylor ended that streak with arguably the shot of the year, holding a 72-foot eagle putt on the fourth playoff hole at the Canadian Open. It was unbelievable. I was there. The place went insane. It was seriously one of the coolest moments I've ever been a part of. But let's hear about it from Nick Taylor on this week's subpar.

All right. We are in studio with the Canadian sensation coming off. of a big year becoming the first homegrown talent to win the Canadian Open and since God knows when almost got Adam Hadwin killed in the process but it was well worth it three-time winner on the PJ tour Nick Taylor is in the house how we doing brother I'm doing great thanks for having me the Washington Husky finally made it in here yes yeah how about your boys that's got be fun great that was a big win on on Saturday you got big Pinnix energy I try to who doesn't even if you don't just say you do exactly that's what I do you get up and uh you get to any of those I haven't been a Husky game in a while.

I can't remember last time it was. That stadium is sweet though. Amazing. I've been there since the remodel, which was probably 10 years ago. It's awesome. Is there a better stadium in college, in any, I mean, maybe the boating? Sailgating. Well, the crew house is where the athletic department was right behind there, so we would kind of cruise around.

It's, yeah, it's an amazing spot. They're in a tough stretch right now. Big game after big game. I also love that they don't have that thing domed because it rains every time there, and it's like, yeah, that's what you should have. You know what I mean? It wouldn't feel right. Well, it started to rain. rains for about six months.

Yeah, yeah. What led you to Washington? I mean, you grew up in Vancouver or around Vancouver. Yeah, you know, I grew up two and a half hour drive north. James Lep. Oh, yeah. Oh, God. Transferred there from Illinois.

We grew up at the same golf course. So he was five years old than I was. So he was definitely the guy growing up, looked up to him. And so when he transferred there, I was okay, that'd be really fun. And then Darren Wallace was another player that grew up in Langley. We were the same age, saw the same coach. He committed there a very young age. He won the Canadian amateur at 15.

So he was a lot of hype. And I really didn't have them any options. So started my senior year of high school. You didn't have any options? No. I mean, you were stud, junior player and then I played really well in my senior year.

So I'd already committed. But nobody really recruited in Canada 15 years ago. Yeah, I was going to ask, like a lot of them seemed to know up at Washington. You have a lot of great Canadians. There was like three or four pipelines. It was Washington,

NC State, NC State. Yeah. Utep was one for a while. My brother actually played college golf there. so the coaches just didn't bother crossing border, I guess. Kent State, Herbie Page. Ken State had some good Canadians.

A lot of good Canadians. I actually took a recruiting trip. Three guys on tour right now. Yipper. My caddy, Day Marco, went to Kansas State. A lot of great. Peter Laws was the man when I took a recruiting trip. He was a stud.

Laws is a beauty. How great is Lep? I mean, he's all-time playing Canadian tour with him. Some of the stuff he would do on the... I had to, like, remove myself. I love you, but I'm going to go to the other end. because you talk and think about so many weird things that it's impossible not to think of them. I still think of the saucer pass being banned was it was the wrong move.

I forgot about that. He was unbelievable. Unbelievable with that. He would put it in play. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I mean, he was very sure. The weirdest stuff.

I mean, he would choke down basically almost to the head of the club. And so when it was banned, he went on like a huge study. If you slow it down, there's no difference between an actual chip shot. Because he starts at, I don't know, two feet behind the ball. And the slide would go through. Slides right into it. What was there a reason? I think because he started and there wasn't really a back swing.

But he would go like there. He's still hitting it. He sees some mess of stuff now that it should be legal. Was it my only thing I would think if they said like the ball's on the face longer. No, that's I mean, he slowed it down. You couldn't tell it. It'd be like if you just started your full swing, like, oh, I want to take it to this takeaway position and that gets me a good spot. And then I want to go.

Like that's legal. Yeah. It was an actual hit. It was just unlippable. Guys got the putters up the arms. They're everywhere now. Cam Young takes the damn TV time out at the top of his backway. Yeah, he just hangs out up there.

Have you seen Lepers? How many balls can I get in the air at one time routine? Did you ever see that? I did, but I don't remember how many was. Dude, I might be messing it up, but it's like, people are like, how many can you get in the air at the same time? Before the first one lands, that's when it ends. And people would be like four.

And he'd be like, and he'd get like, I honestly think it was like nine, ten. Maybe he could get in the air. He's so talented. I believe he won NCAA as a K's Valley. That was my sophomore year. He beat Putnam in a playoff. Yeah. That was his...

I feel like he went out and shot 63 one day. It was the final day. Final day. And it was pouring rain. Matt Thurman was my coach UW. He's now at ASU, but he talked about that round forever. It was the... It was miserable out.

He could go low, like... He was the low round by six. Yeah. You know? He had that. A lot of raw talent. I'll never forget. We played Q school first stage together maybe in like 2012.

And he was like, right after the big break, he wasn't probably going to play much longer unless it turned around. He comes in. having dinner and he's like yeah so today i uh i teed off all the days all the holes with my eyes closed it was actually pretty good i was like this is it dude this might be near the end yeah you get on the putting green with him and you'd be like dude i got to go like do you ever watch your left pinky nail when you put i feel like it keeps the head face the face square long i'm like dude got to go he's talented got to go away is he's still doing the shoe thing now he's he's got

the hands in a lot of things i don't know how much the shoe thing is i see him a couple times of year or up in Canada. Did your golf getting into golf start like most Canadians where it's like, I love hockey and then there comes a time where you're like, okay, maybe I'm not good enough or this isn't going to be it. And then you get into golf or were you always? Yeah, I played hockey until it was probably 13, 14. Baseball for a decent time.

Kind of all high school sports. I was never a really big guy. So I wasn't going to go far on that. But I started golf late for today's standards at 11. Got into it in the summers and it kind of doled from there. And I dropped everything by grade 10 in high school. You figured it out. I mean, you're McCormick Medal winner for the number one AM in the world.

Ben Hogan Award winner, Canadian Amateur. By the way, I didn't realize you have the lowest round ever by an amateur at a U.S. Open. Yeah. 65 age. Beth Page. Ooh, what the? That place is impossible. Yeah, that was a good day.

That was actually, it was split into two days, actually. It was huge rain delays. I played like 32 holes on the Friday. My last shot of the Friday, hold a bunker shot to get to, I think, 5 under. and then had to re-tee and start on six or 15 up the hill at brutal part four bowied that and then making it like a 20 for noisville for birdie 265 so that was that was the year rickie barnes had the big lead that was when glover one and barnes was out in front of it i think it was like at the time tiger and phil kind of made a charge but didn't really yeah it was a pretty sweet

rickie barnes started getting that sway going on on the weekends started going a little bit for big rick but i think at the time was one of the first dudes to get to 10 under at the u.s open like now people have done it and people blown it out but at the time and at Beth page in that weather that was nasty yeah 65 as an am is disgusting what all the amateur you had a monstrous amateur career what would you say is like for you personally the highlight of your amateur career that's that's got to be up there I almost won the Publinks that stung for a while I made the finals I actually got blown out but I I won the medalist that week and then I was just like moaned through a lot of guys and then lost like seven and six in the final.

To who? Brad Benjamin. I don't remember him. Where did he go? I don't remember where he went to school. It was a combination. He played really well and I didn't. Where was that at?

Jimmy Austin course. Oh, down to Austin. Yeah. Oklahoma. Yeah. It was so hot. Jimmy. It's so weird to me that Jimmy Austin golf course is Oklahoma's head course when

their biggest ride was. Yeah, it'd be like the Norman course at UT Club. It's just weird to me. I've always thought when I always hear Jimmy Austin, I'm like, oh, yeah, Texas. Nope, never mind. That's actually, oh, yeah, things still thump. I still hear dudes. And now the Publinks is gone.

Gone. Tragic. Yeah, tragic. Yeah, tragic. Yeah, too much scandal. At least you got a win there, hey? I did. It was a fun one.

But you turned pro after a very successful amateur career. A couple years on the Canadian tour, though. Three? Three years. We love hearing about the mini tour days. I mean, I know Canadian, it's a big time deal, but it's still, it's the jicky jacks as Lees likes to call. Four of those days like for you.

Oh man, a lot of good memories It went from like three guys in hotel room Trying to figure it out To when the PJ tour bought it That was my third year That's when it felt like it really There was an opportunity there to move on I remember the first player meeting

It was like top Top 10 got to final stage Which was obviously a huge deal It used to be I think you finished top two You got to second stage Which everyone knows who's been at Q school Second Stage is a nightmare And if you can avoid that at all costs

Would be amazing So that was a big motivator that year I finished seventh, but I stayed with Joe Panzera, a good buddy of mine for a couple years, stayed plenty with Joel. So after the first couple years, I was like, you know what, maybe I'll find a new roommate. Let's talk about Joel's a roommate. How was he? Joel's a great roommate. He loves to have fun, obviously, have a drink here there. I feel like he's not a motivator. Here or there. I like going to be here or there, mostly here. Um, but no, Joel's, Joel's got a heart of gold.

So I've always lived to say, I feel like the golf world really got to know Joel through full swing and Netflix. No doubt. Yeah. Would you say ever since you've known him? Like, is this, as Joel always been this way? Yeah. Big personality. What you saw him is exactly who he is.

He's self-deprecating, but he is wants to win as much as anybody. Um, I feel like, again, like he's so self-deprecating. It's hilarious. But when you play with him, he wants to beat you as bad as you want to beat him. That's just kind of his front. But no, I live with Joel for two years, our second and third year at school. My second and third year, I should clarify. But yeah, Joel's a great guy.

You got robbed. I heard. Twice, actually. Yeah, you got to lock the doors. You did or he did. When you leave for the summer, you need to lock the doors. I was gone for summer because I went back to Canada. Yeah.

Maybe Joel didn't lock the doors. First they came in. First, they stole all of our electronics. I'm like, okay, well, I guess I got to get a new TV or whatever. And Joel calls again. Yeah, they came in and they stole everything. I was like, what was left? He's like, they stole all my clothes.

Beautiful. So they just cleaned out our apartment. The lock was broken. Apparently, he's like, yeah, I didn't lock it for like the whole summer. Oh, hard to believe. They came back. We had actually golf club stolen out of the parking garage. It was a, it was a nice place, but obviously sketchy.

Yeah. Damn. Who else were you running around in Canada? Any other guys? Like, Joel obviously made it. You made it. Anyone else come off that tour and have some success? That's a good tour.

Like, there's some good players up there. My last year up there, Tony Fina was there. Hubbard was there. I'm trying to think the top five that are still playing. Joel Hubbard, myself. JJ Spawn was there, I don't think, but he won the money list maybe a couple years later. He came off of that.

That's how he got through to Corn Fairy, I believe. I think the PJ Tour buying that was the demise of mini-tours, but also has brought out the best players probably from mini-tours and got him to move on. Like Gateway Tour, all that stuff around. here when I turned pro it wasn't like amazing but it was you can make some money and play around here and then go to cue school now it's like I don't even know what's around here I don't know that there's a whole lot for there's no order still expensive you're just not playing

for as much money money games at Whisparock yeah exactly Papa go yeah there's not the skins game hodge he came out of that tour there's a lot of tour winners that have come I feel like everybody minus the studs that come out boom right away the year I was Matt Genswick they won the mindless that year um Corey wasn't I don't think pro yet the Pendrith like there's been a Fenson. I played with Fenson up there. He spent some time. Well, you end up getting to the PJ Tour and you win in your rookie year in Mississippi. Got you a nice chicken trophy. Big chicken. Big chicken energy.

Were you surprised to winning your rookie year? Did you feel it coming? But obviously that led to some very good success. Yeah, I was, I think, a little surprised that year. I had ups and downs and corn for eight zero, but there was a two or three years stretch there where I was putting really well. And when it got hot, I made everything. And that was one of those weeks. I would say now I'm a far better player, but got hot at the right time.

You know, when I got in that moment, I just, you know, kind of head down. Like I've done the three times that I have one. But when I've gotten that moment, I feel pretty comfortable. And that was a day from, I remember I gained like five shots putting that day. I just like blacked out, made everything. Ended up winning by a couple. The next probably year and a half struggled a bit. maybe expectations I put on myself

were a little high, but it was obviously huge to start your career that way because it's essentially three-year exemption because I was a rookie, got out of that category, and then three years led on to what I think. The last five years compared to that,

six years have been a lot better, but it was huge to start my career that way for sure. All right, some big news here from Subpar. We have officially launched our own YouTube page. Make sure to subscribe at Golf underscore Subpar on YouTube. check out this week's video. Like, subscribe, do all the stuff. Colt, we've got some cool behind the scene stuff coming

and give you a little outside look at some of the stuff outside the studio. So please like, please subscribe. You're the best listeners in the game. We love you. Back to the show. Does it skew your perception on how easy it will be or difficult, I should say,

to win on the PJ tour when you win in your rookie year? Like people go their entire career is try to pick off one and then you do it your rookie year. Like, oh dude, I'm doing this already. Like, I'll have a ton of these. Yeah. I don't think my expectations were I was going to win a bunch, but I think I probably expected to be in the hunt a little more often, which I wasn't for much of the next couple years. But it's really hard to win.

You need breaks. You know, you look past, you know, even a month after when you win, you know, one week you finish 20th, you're like, man, I actually played just as well. But this putt lipped in, a bounce here there. Like it's so, so minor what can happen when you do win. So, yeah, I would say this year's a good example. probably played better at Phoenix when I finished second to Scotty. There, when I actually won in Canada, a combination of obviously Scotty played amazing,

kind of got beat there, a few breaks at Canada where Tommy could easily break the last hole, and I finished second there too. So you need breaks when you win, unless you're probably the top five or ten guys in the world that they can just outperform guys. Just with Phoenix real quick, just with the changes in the game of golf.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe you might not even have been in the field at Phoenix, if it was a signature event. It's coming here. Like the no field, no cut. That's one thing. I don't know how you feel about it.

Like, I hate the no cut small field events. I know the top players love it. It's guaranteed money. But I love when guys, like, I mean, you were an underdog that week

going up against Scotty Schaeffler. We saw, saw the gala the year before. Same thing going up against Scotty Sheffler. Like, those are great stories. And I think that's what makes pro golf so great. It's like,

I mean, you can have a Monday qualifier or someone lesser known that the crowd gets behind and cheers. And I'm just not a big fan of the limited fields. I agree. I think there's a lot of big news in last year in golf, but that was one I think

majority of players were upset with because, and my name came up a lot because of that tournament, but look, you want all the top guys in the top of the leaderboard, but they love underdog stories as well, and you're taking that away by going to 70-man fields. And it's a shame. I've, you know, there's a way to play it in now, but I think it's a shame. Like, you know, you'll look at the U.S. Open. There's always an underdog story of it. Because there's a Monday qualifier. Went through local, went through sectional, made it through and shot a 66th the first day.

Like that stuff's great. So, you know, maybe there'll be a year and they'll realize it and they'll change it back. There's been so many changes. Who knows? But I think the majority guys are not a big fan. But Nick, they're worried about the stars being there for four days. They got to make sure Rom is there on Sunday. He has to be on property.

And they add in the cut to what those three events to 50 and ties and you're, I don't know, there's been a lot of strange things. By the way, was it two mill for finishing second though? Yeah. It's not bad little second place. There's a lot of good consolation. Yeah. A lot of world ranking points. There was a, it was a good consolation that it's that second place.

What about the cut in the FedEx like playoffs if we're going to do like the changes to shrink that to 70 as opposed? That's a pretty drastic huge. You have a great, a very good year from those guys finished 78th. Yeah. Like, okay, cool. go back in the fall and go get it what do you think about that those changes yeah again i i've it seems drastic it's from 125 i thought i've talked to the few guys if you finish 60 first you'll get no signature events it's the same as finishing 1 25th that's a very harsh change that

here that's a big difference in years you finish 61st you had a really nice year um and you could have probably maybe you've barely finished out in the playoffs and then you maybe don't want to play much in the fall and struggle a bit. It seems a very drastic cutoff, but yeah, we'll see. I thought they'd go to 100, like 150, 30. And then figure out, you know, how many are exempted the signature. I thought, you know, there's obviously a lot of changes, but a guy like Justin Thomas, we'd really miss out.

Maybe that's a guy they need to miss to be like, you know, Justin struggled for him, but he still didn't have a horrendous year. For his terms, he's a guy we won in the playoffs. They won him on TV. So maybe they'll bump the number. Yeah, he finished 71st. He goes in there and gets hot in the playoffs. Lucas Glover.

I mean, he's there with a chance to win at Eastlake. And that's just how small a margin there is. But I said, like, if you're a rookie coming off the Cornfrey tour, and before these changes, you say, you're going to finish 76th in the FedEx this year. You'd be like, yep, Duncan. Yeah. Now, you don't even make the playoffs, and you got to play for seating to see where you are and all that. My first sample tour is there were years on tour.

There was four playoff events. So it went from 125 to 100. which, you know, going to three events, I got to get that. You don't want to overlap football. But, yeah, they go from 125 to 70 is pretty harsh. And it just, like, eliminates kind of any offseason for those guys. Like, you got to go play, depending on where you are. Like, it's better if you're 22nd than if you're 124th.

But it's like, you've got to go play those. You got to make sure you keep your job. And then it's like, okay, good job. You did it. Boom, we start again. Like, there's really no, it's hard to play good golf for that long with no breaks. It's such a long year for those guys. Yeah.

I think this fall, though, like with all the winners that have been, I've played a couple events, but there's been some great stories. Yesterday with Camila was amazing. My wife are tearing up in our room. Watching it. Ben Royne was incredible. You know, Morcawa kind of ended in history. There's been a lot of great winners, Sahith.

The fall has been great golf. Yeah, had a five-man playoff in Jackson. Yeah. It's great. You have had a little, you don't have to be in that playing the fall series. Have you taken any time and just said, shut up. down no golf do it like just anything but i played Vegas in japan leading up to Vegas i did i didn't do probably as much practice as i normally would in midseason but i stayed relatively sharp

after that i kind of didn't touch club for maybe two three weeks before uh kind of after halloween spent some family family time my son's birthday but um i'm playing the grand thornton in december so i've something to kind of gear up towards you home for christmas than maui but yeah i've taking more time off than I ever have this time of year, which is great. Nice. Who are you playing the freshman? Ronnie Yinn. Wonderful.

Any practice rounds lined up? I haven't met her. We'll probably play maybe the Tuesday before. I know there's a couple pro-ounds and stuff, but yeah, it would be fun. How does that get brokered then? If you said you'd never met her before, how does they come to go? I think I was one of the last guys in the field. They paired me up and go for that.

Beautiful. Yeah. Before we get to Canadian Open, I just want a quick touch on your second wind out at Pebble. as you're in the final group, one of the legends of the game, and Phil Mickelson. For you, like, does,

obviously he's a fan favorite around there and everywhere he goes, but Pebble Beach is especially. Do you get, like, did being paired with him bother you at all? Obviously, you played great, and you got the win, but does any of that stuff kind of affect you at all?

Would have been different if you were playing with, you know, you're a buddy like Adam Hadwin compared to Phil Mickelson? I think it, I had the, I think I had a one-shot lead.

I remember, I was talking with someone recently, Like that night before I slept terrible. I hadn't been in that position in a little bit. I feel like I had like night sweats. It was like I was so nervous. I've always been more nervous. And then when I get to the golf course, I kind of like get into golf mode.

But I think it probably helped me a little bit. We chat a bit early on in the round. But knowing, I think when the wind picked up, that place is brutal. And so just like stayed in my own world and bother talking. I feel like sometimes I play worse when I'm playing with buddies because you want to like, I don't know, I just don't take it probably as seriously as I normally would. So the fans were definitely behind him. It was fun being in that atmosphere trying to just, I guess, beat him.

I feel like I don't remember what point, but we separate ourselves quite a bit from the rest of the field. It was just kind of a match play situation. So I enjoyed playing with him in that scenario. I think it's probably better for me just to keep my head down and go. You think Phil had night sweats the night before, being like, shit, I'm paired with Nick. Probably. I'm going to freak out. No question.

No, like you're going for his 40-something victory, so I doubt there's nights with. Yeah, that was one, I think, correct me if I'm wrong, six years from the last one or so until that one, like, that's like, I mean, at that point you got to be thinking, like, you win right out the gate and you're like, damn, I wasn't expecting to be your six years later without another one. Yeah. There's probably even more on it, regardless of who's in the final group with it. No doubt, no doubt. And that week, you know, that's a busy week, as you know, Cole. Like, there's three different courses, there's shuttles. And so it's not quite the same feeling as if, like, you have a normal event where the.

the first two days you're leading and then you like wait for your tea time and then you're just everywhere and then Sunday comes your back at pebble and um teed off with Phil lined on the fair with with fans so it was there's weather sucks yeah it was dry and windy which it's pretty rare there usually it's wet place can get nasty yeah this goes from birdie festival it's nice to grind I know you're big coffee guy are you coffee before the rounds as well I just thought I didn't drink coffee until I became a dad so it's only been like four years I'll drink a little bit before the round. I'm more so at home,

all one in the morning, our, like, routine with my wife and kids will, like, find a coffee shop. If we like the beans, we'll take them home and make coffee home. But I've gotten into coffee a lot over the last four years. By no means, am I a coffee savant?

But all the little before the round, just a routine. Not quite a routine. No, not quite. Have you seen his whole routine get up? No. He travels with a measuring thing, beakers, like, The housekeeper, or the...

I think he's... Walter White. Yeah, I mean... I'm not quite there. I've traveled with, like, a pourover or whatever, but even that, I think I left to the house recently, so I don't have nothing right now. He weighs his beans. Gotta make sure it's just right.

I've seen that. I'm not quite that level. Gotta have proper beans in the coffee game. Should we go to the... Arguably the week of the year on the PJ Tour? I mean, the shot of the year. Let's get all the deets. No doubt, but Canadian Open.

every single year when you get up there. I know you're asked about it. Like, when is a Canadian going to win? It's been since 1954. No one actually born in Canada has won since 1914. And finally, you put that to bed. You break the streak. But what's it like every week going to that tournament for you being a Canadian?

Yeah, I think the media wants it probably as bad as the Canadian media wants as as bad as us. And they try to put pressure on us. but I think the constant questions and getting asked about it, all of us want to win that event is bad as probably any event outside of the majors. So we have probably higher pressure on ourselves than the media or the fans. It's just, like you said, it's hard to win an event, and then to win an event that you really want to. You got to peak at the right time.

I certainly didn't think I was probably going to win that after the first day, but yeah. What did you open with? 75? Yeah. Did you still think was that even in your mind? Like, well, not this year. I was hoping to make the cut.

That was the first, I think I was, I even birdied a whole late to shoot 75. I think I was, I played with Corey. He played great the first day. He was 5 under. Luckily, the first couple of days, it played tougher than I feel like the weekend. Or maybe everyone just kind of figured it out. But I think 8 under was leading through two days.

So, anyway, there is, I think the most pressure is what all the Canadian players put on themselves. I think I've said it for probably three or four years now. the Canadian contingent on tour has grown in numbers. I think the players are as better than they have ever been. And, you know, I think it was a matter of time, again, to be the person to kind of do it is amazing. But also, I feel like we're in contention a lot.

As long as Roy didn't go off and shoot 60 to the final round, I feel like we're going to have a chance at some point. Yeah, it's better and deeper, I would say. Yeah, there's more. There's been Canadian talent, but there hasn't been as much Canadian talent as there is right now. Yeah, I think this year, for this past year, there was four of us had won. But even, like, Adam finished second three times.

I think Pendrith finished second or maybe third because Adam made the putt there. But we just, I feel like if there's been a Canadian player in the hunt so many weeks. So it's just bound to happen, knock that door down. We'll take it. Okay. No, I was just going to say, like, historically, you said, like, most Canadians want to win this as bad as the majors. For you personally, going into that week, and you have the spotlight on you. Like, you guys, the Canadians have all the spotlight that week, which you don't have.

have when you're in a major championship, right? It's dispersed amongst all the guys. Historically, have you put more pressure on yourself to play well and win in Canada, even more so than the major championships? Yeah, mostly because I haven't played in a whole lot of majors, but I know the cane open, I circle it every year. I know I'm going to be there. Yeah, the crowd support is always incredible.

I think with a couple years off with COVID, since then, the tournament's gone to a new level with the rinkhole, with just the energy in those tournaments, been incredible. Last year at St. George's, the finish was amazing. We're already winning again, but there's just, it's such a great energy and we want to play well so bad. So to get like this year, to kind of get, it to make the cut after my start, but have that Saturday where the crowd slowly kind of kind of got to me in that back nine. I was joking with, I play with Grace and Stig that day. And I was like, I'm like everyone, I'm not from Canada, but I'm from the West. It's, it's very,

I put with Corey the first couple of days. His crowd support was amazing. And so was mine, but I joked on that Saturday day that I'm like, they didn't even recognize who I was because I'm playing with Corey and he was playing well. So he texted me later that that changed and certainly did. It definitely changed. But you mentioned what they've done to that tournament. The rink is fantastic.

They loved me in my Calgary Flames jersey. I'm sure they did. First of all, it was in my Commodore jersey. Didn't care what team of us. But that was a lot of fun. But I got to ask you, because over to CBS, we've been doing the Walk and Talks. this past year we started with Max home out in Torrey Pines. He got the win.

You agreed to do it on Sunday because our broadcast window on Saturday was really short. You agreed to do it on Sunday. When you go through the rink and I believe you're going to do it on 15 the next hole, I know you agreed to it early in the day, but now you're right in the middle of this golf tournament. You got a chance to win. Was there ever a moment where you're like, maybe I just turn this down here for a second?

So I kind of made a decision, honestly, before the day started. I knew that it was going to be on 15. and you know where I was in the tournament a lock it happened it was very bunched I didn't look at a leaderboard all day until probably 17 but when I got when I got to the walk and talk like I came up like I thought it would have been more of a distraction if I just made a decision to not do it when I already committed to do it so that was my reasoning there and then when I was talking to to Jim and Trevor at near the end of it Jim's like appreciate it he's like thank you so much for doing this you know we've never had somebody doing on Sunday in

intention, let alone leading the tournament. I was like, oh, I guess I'm leading the tournament. Oh, you didn't know? You didn't know? I assumed I was with, again, the energy, the chance and stuff, but I didn't know if I was one ahead, if I was two ahead, if I was tied or anything. But that was the first I heard that I was leading. But Jim say that again, bud? I haven't been purposely knowledge and at a leaderboard. Holy shit, that's incredible. Yeah. So I was, when you were coming up 14, I'm into our producer, I'm like, are we really going to make him do this? Do like he's leading this golf tournament? Like, you're out of your mind.

Yeah. But hey, it all worked out. It did. Damn. I didn't know. A lot of things going on that day, but that was one that it might have taken me out of the moment a little bit, even though it obviously put me in a headspace that I was trying to avoid, I guess.

But no, yeah, that was a funny little side ststone to that whole day because honestly, after the playoff and everything, I forgot I even did that. And then people started asking me how to do because there's so much that went on the last couple hours. Well, you got to go to the playoff, though, because obviously Tommy and him Birdie 18, you go to the playoff. And, I mean, that place was. rocking. I mean, I was down there with you too. And I mean, other than a Rider Cup, I don't know if I've

heard a place louder. Yeah. Like, what was it like for you going through there knowing that 99.999% of those people other than Shane Lowry and Turrell Hatton were rooting for you. Yeah, it was a wild, because I've never been in that scenario. First, I've never been a playoff. So that was new. But to have, you know, Tommy misses a putt. And Tommy couldn't be a better human being on the tour. And any other tournament, he's for sure the favorite from the crowds, but he misses putts, they're cheering, and it's like, you want to feel bad because that's just not the sportsmanship you want to see, but also I'm like, hey, I obviously want to win this tournament as bad as he does. And there's nothing I could do about because there's thousands of people that want to pull me through too.

So, yeah, it was, the energy was insane. A lot of it I try to remember, but I can't. I feel like I've seen the video enough that I almost my perspective has changed of me making the put, I've been asked, you know, when did you think it was in? Like, when I disappeared. Like, I don't know, I was 70 feet away. It wasn't like 10 feet away. I was like, oh, that looks that looks really good. I was just trying to hit as close as I could and disappeared. That the fans that, that's as close to a Ryder Cup, like Coltsett as I've ever seen. I've never seen an individual tournament, a non-team event where it's more of a us versus

them. Yeah. And that's, and it was awesome because that's the way it should be. It's Canada's, I mean, it's the biggest deal up there. But I'm like, for you as an individual guy, Were you so in the moment that you weren't like even, you know, blinders on not noticing? Or were you like, dude, I need to win this thing. Or it's going to be, they're going to be like. Yeah, like, I didn't feel the I need to win this because it's can't open. I obviously wanted to. But I got in that kind of like headspace of just trying to hit as many shots and be as present as possible.

That 18th T shot for as far as wide as it kind of looks. Like, there's a lot of pressure on that T shot because if you missed the fairway, it's like a full shot. Yeah. Because you have to either lay up short or just hit it over. And that was when, so when Tommy in the regulation, I just got in the locker room, he birdies 1617 to tie, which you're like, okay, well, this doesn't look great. And when he missed the fairway, that's when I went out to start warming up because you just kind of almost assume that he's going to have a wedge shot, but it's kind of an awkward third shot. It's just, for how wonky of a part five it is, it's actually decent because you have to hit the fairway. And if you don't, it's kind of a bunch of different options.

Tricky green, too. Yeah. very. This is a quirky little hole kind of. But great for like drama. Empatheter was amazing. Emphas on that first tee ball is like dude, it got to be.

Give us. Take us through the put because 72 feet, obviously place going nuts, rain starting to fall. Like do you even remember what you did when it went in? Honestly, the only thing I remember is Markle like just coming right at me. And almost tackling.

We somehow didn't fall down. And then from there I kind of, other than kind of me and Tommy giving a hug. saying like good job sorry thanks whatever I remember what I said and then the corner of my have having getting tackled that's just obviously the biggest memory

did you see the attempted manslaughter yes the funny thing I'll throw Markle under the busier a little bit he gets praised because he went if you remember the video we're both like hey hey and I kind of like didn't do anything and Markle chased after it yeah he just walked right past had one and grabbed the flag and came back to celebrate

he's fine yeah he's like all everyone helping him up he's fun that was such an incredible moment then nance's call i'm sure you've went back and watched the coverage i mean glorious and free that was just only he can do that but unbelievable i saw a video somewhere or maybe it was a pocket someone mentioned that someone asked him like how did that like was that rehearsed like what was going on there he said he said it wasn't rehearsed he was hearing the national anthem constantly that tournament because we get to the wrinkle they'd sing it every time and it just like came out which kudos to him It was impressive.

He's decent at his job. Yeah, he's pretty good. And his first rode. I want to get to the post game here, man, but I do want to go, because the 72 footer gets all the attention, rightfully so. But I've said this before. I was like, dude, the one you made on the first playoff hole after Tom, you had to feel like, I know you're always expecting the guy to make it. But in reality, like, dude, I might have four, whatever that was, four and a half fee to win this thing. Because Tommy had a tricky put and he rolls it in the guts.

And I was like, this could flip quickly, looking like you had a put to win it outright. And then all of a sudden, like, I got to make this just to a. extend what do you remember going through that one yeah I remember there's a lot like even if I backtracked in regulation like I had bogeyed 16 and that's when I looked at Leibor to see I think hadn't had posted 16 so to make that put on 17 to get tied going to 18 be able to make that put to go one ahead and I don't remember thinking if I that I'd won it because I had no idea really where people were and when I got into scoring Tommy I think was still too behind he might have just pretty 16 but I was like thinking I'm

a pretty good spot and then 15 minutes later I'm tied and he's on 18T and I'm not feeling great about it but um I do remember that moment when time made that pot I tried to be like he's going to make this just like to not have any surprise in my brain that oh shit I have to make this put now to continue it's a tricky put is like kind of you start I had it yeah like he had what 22 feet kind of going down and just gutted it the rain was coming down it was kind of like I had a similar line luckily in the regulation it kind of swung about left i was you know he said four and a half five feet but yeah i was obviously a pot i needed to make but it was a great pot right in the jaws i thought that one was maybe the 72 footers sick but there's

an element of luck and blah but that actually going in that one that one went in the center and i was like damn that's because you kind of think this might be to win it yeah i don't know how many people were around there let's just say 30 40 000 the you could hear a pin drop when Tommy's putt went in yeah it was the quietest reaction i've ever heard to a birdie putt in a play i was just like you can start everybody just take a take a gas but like, holy shit, that just happened. Have you talked to Tommy after this? Because Tommy's not, you know, ignorant to what was going.

He's like, no one here other than my boys from Europe on my head want me to win this are rooting for me. Like he had to know and like just there. We haven't taught like, you know, other than the small talk here there, but they did a video and they interviewed him. And he said he was more than happy to be the spoiler of the day. So obviously, I remember a moment, Markle, when when Tommy hit it in that bunker on the fourth playoff. full. Mark was like, hey, man, like, he hasn't one over here before. This is just as hard for him as is for you.

Like, let's try to finish this off. When we had that advantage, again, that putt, I'm trying to hit as close as I can to force him. If you told me before that put, if I hit it to here and walked up, tapped it in, that's sold. Sold, taking it, right? He'd had that putt pretty similar, I think, in the second playoffal. I had to expect he's going to make that.

So, yeah, it's pretty wild. I mean, the Tup would have been awesome either way. If you would end up winning it, he missed, but just to make it, the reaction was just made it that much greater. Yeah, to be Canadian. Anyone that makes that to win it is sick. The fact that it's a Canadian up there for the first time since 54 is just like, dude, this is movie shit right now.

The funny part with Adam was he, I think he almost felt bad that he got tackle that was taking away, like, from the tournament a little bit. And I'm like, dude, I think because of that, it's reached heights that it never could of like he said at the next week of the US Open, I'm talking his agent and he's like, TMZ's calling us. Yeah, like, TMZ doesn't cover golf. I think he made it on one of the tonight show, like one of the late shows. Yeah, like it was and, you know, we've seen, luckily he was fine. I think that's why it.

Oh my God, if he got hurt. He was like apolit. Was there anyone that would handle that situation, just getting body bag like that? And then getting up and being like nothing happened. It was great, not making it a same. I know, but he's also the nicest dude in the world. But I'm sorry, they've embraced it like the family. That was their Halloween costume.

Oh, my gosh. Jess was amazing. Yeah. And even for Jim Nance to acknowledge it on air when you didn't even see it, just people were like, excuse me,

what? Adam Hadwin just got tackled on the 18 degree. It's such a good clip and all the like still frames or the memes or whatever people were putting up. I was like, this is the best,

is this most puppies ever had? NFL, the NFL ran with it when he like wrapped around. It's beautiful form. I wonder where that guy is now, that security guard. I heard he is the guy

when you call to come to Canada. Really? He's like when Beyonce comes as a concert, he is number one guy. I wouldn't mess with him. Yeah. I feel like the bills

I feel like that elevated his status. Yeah, he's by the G now. So you break this unbelievable streak. I mean, you're a hero in Canada. How has life changed? Is it when you're walking around, obviously, up at home in Canada? Is it just different now? It's different.

I don't think it's like, it's not crazy. You know, I've, in context, if I'm going to my home golf course, of course it's different. I'm going to talk to a lot of members that I've known for 20, 30 years. Go anywhere. I'm going to talk to a bunch of people. Just out, if I go to a coffee shop or whatever, I might get recognized here. They're like, hey, man, congrats.

But it's probably been a little more than maybe I expected. The first, like, month, I kind of stayed in the house and definitely go out because I just, we're just, like, chilling. Obviously, we went to the UK for a couple tournaments. But, yeah, we've, people come up to say congrats, but nothing, nothing out of the ordinary for people being weird or anything, but it's been really nice. Do you buy beers?

Some of your Canadian brethren who I reached out to before this podcast. was like ask me if he ever has to buy a beer and can that's like the common question like are you on that level of like no your money's no good here sir i haven't really been to a bar much to be able to to use that and i wouldn't be a guy either that goes to the bar and wants people to know that i'm there to get people to buy me one but um the first at the u.s open week i was with a buddy old college roommate and we had a drink and some guy turned around bought us a couple of years but so that was the start of oh this is going to start happening what about that night what went down that night did it get weird Not crazy.

We didn't leave the golf course until probably 10.30. My manager Jordan was there. My brother was there. He had a couple friends. So we were staying downtown that week. Went down a couple of drinks there. And then I went to a barred on the road. It was pretty quiet.

In downtown Toronto for every reason, maybe it was just a Sunday. But it was more of a celebratory than I had in the past because I think I did laundry with Adam after Mississippi. We're going to Mexico next week. And then my family was in town of Pebble, so we'd pizza that night. I feel like I'm just, every time I've been so exhausted, you know, I'm not going to go crush a bunch of drinks, but not weird fun. Yeah, same. That's way I would handle it too. A little laundry.

You're going to be a rock star next year at Canadian Open, no doubt. But I know you got one event circled, President's Cup. I'm going to be at Royal Montreal next year. How much are you looking forward to hopefully being on that team representing Canada? And I got to ask, what streak? ends first. International team winning the President's Cup or a Canadian team winning a Stanley Cup. Oof. I hope it's the President's Cup. Yeah, it's been a tough streak with hockey. Yeah, that's probably my biggest goal next year is making that team. I think I've heard so many stories. It doesn't

matter if it's a Ryder Cup or President's Cup. It's the peak of guys' careers, the energy they feel, the nerves they feel. I think, you know, I can... My only... experience would be the cane open this previous year, but to feel that and hopefully have a chance to win, obviously the international teams would beat a lot lately, but that's a huge goal mine. By no means, do I think I'm a lock on the team whatsoever, and I want to earn my way in that top six to leave no doubt. So that's a big goal in mind. The Olympics would be kind of a cherry on top, I feel like, if I think one would go with

the other. If I make the Olympics or make the President's Cup, then I probably play in the Olympics as well, which would be really cool. But the President's Cup's definitely up there. If worse comes to worse, you'd always be a vice captain for Captain DeLette on the junior president's guy. It's a good place to get your feet wet. Captain DeLette.

Coaching up the youngsters. I know. Which is terrifying. Against Charlie Hoffman, the Seagull. I mean, that's just incredible. There's good guys to look up to. The Segal and Graham. Having traveled Canada with Graham, it was a great tour guide around there.

Now that he's a junior president, I'm like, oh, my God, this is crazy. But going back to, like, last time I was at Royal Montreal was it 2007? I mean, Mike Weir's single. win against tiger like that's i mean graham's talked about like that was a kind of i want to say jumping off point but that boosted the popularity of golf huge and canada and a lot of these guys not like you because you were kind of already humming at that point but now you look at the number of guys who could potentially play on that team like that's in large part to like what weird did and how he no doubt the masters and then that that single's victory no doubt yeah so to play for weirzy would be

incredible i think there's probably going to be multiple canes in that team we hope to probably have three or four at least but um i know it's it's i'm not the only canadian that is circling that and wanting it to be kind of the peak of the year to finish off in September to play. But that would be incredible. There's like six. In Montreal. There's like six Canadians potentially could be on that team.

Yeah. I would expect captain's picks to go up one or two. I mean, you never know. But like that's a lot. There's a lot of realistic possibility. If you think about it lately, like obviously Eric winning a couple weeks ago, you can't count Camila out the way he's played the last couple weeks. He was just a vice captain.

Go from vice captain to maybe Ogilville will start winning again. He's lying in there too. I played with him in Australia. I don't think it's happening. Sorry, Jeff, I love you. But no, that was great, man. You had an incredible year. But now it's time to get to the E9.

Have a little fun with you. Let's do it. We ask this to everyone. Since you're married, we're going to go with this route. You can be one other person for one day. Dead or alive. Anybody in the history time, who would you be? Dead or alive.

She had to experience their life for one day. For one day. I'm thinking actor out. This is just coming to my head. but probably Decaprio. Not a bad choice. There's no bad days. No bad days for what I understand.

Things look to be pretty fun. No bad days. You want to feel old these turning 49. They're not. Remember I'm from Titanic? It still looks the same. I hadn't lost a step. Still jealous of Wolf of Wall Street.

I hope we kind of get into this a little bit because I've heard this from 15 different people. But you're 50th right now in the official world golf rankings. If they had one, would you be higher or lower on the official world Mario Kart rankings? Much higher. Top what? People say, you say that you're one of the best in the world Mario Car. So on my Twitter handle, I put top five. There's no evidence to that whatsoever.

I think I put it out when I made Twitter in 2010 or 11 anyways. I'd probably be top 30 in the world for sure. I'm 12 years ago, I would have been top 15 probably. Wow. What, okay, because I'm a huge Mario card guy. What console are we taught? Is this any across the N64? No, N64 only.

Nintendo 64 with the little stick. And who are you? If the game isn't worried, you pulled out, put it back in. Yeah, yeah, that was back in the good old days. I was Toad. Toad. Interesting. Do you still play, do you still have a Nintendo 64?

I have one. I don't play a whole lot. I've dusted it off at the start of COVID, but TVs don't even hook up to it anymore. It's actually pretty fun. You need an adapter to put the, the, red, yellow, white prong. Yeah. Those don't even exist.

There's not even like an on button anymore. Was it true, Mario Kart also led to the dismantling of a rather important coffee table back in college? Correct. It was our coffee table, our last year of college, was held up by two fruit loops boxes. Runei got a little upset, I heard. A little upset, a little upset. Joel, well, Joel, Joel was always upset because he was always third fiddle.

He never, he never won. Couldn't have. Rarely won. If he won, he ran around the apartment. But yeah, Spooner old roommate, we had a lot of competitive, competitive races. No better, like, pregame drinking game than Mario Kart. It was the best back in, that and NCAA. We grinded.

If we weren't at the golf course, we were playing Mario Kart. I love that about you. Toad. Stand up. And the reason I'll put this back, why I put top five is that Kevin Spooner, if we raced, it would be he wins six and I would win four on average. So, like, I couldn't say, Taught Marry, because he is better than I am.

I'm fine saying that should practice more. Two of the best in the world under the same roof. What are the odds? All right. Is it true? You used to consistently disrupt your morning classes at Washington. Disrupt? Yeah.

In what way? Maybe because you weren't awake and you had a little... I've fallen asleep in a class or two. You had a little tremor and sometimes disturbed the class. Yeah. That was, actually, that was a wake-up call for me. I went with Spooner. Actually a wake-up coffee.

A little pun. More way than one. I went. I probably showed up a few minutes late, fell asleep, big lecture hall. And I twitch when I fall asleep. Boom, smoke it. And everyone just looks around at me. And Spooner look.

He's like, what are you in here? That's like, that's a pretty valid point. You know what? I'm not going to go. So from that day forward, if I showed up, which I did, I was awake. Should have started drinking coffee early. Exactly. That happens in.

class and on airplanes. Maybe it's something about like you're sitting up. And then I'm like, Jesus, the dude next to me, I just had a heart attack. Somebody checked this guy. It just seems to happen. You've done your homework, Colt. No shame.

You've done your homework, Colt. Serious shit over here. Okay. We got on this a little bit earlier, but I want you to elaborate more if you can. I just need the pros and cons of Joel Damon as a roommate. The good and the bad. If you need a beer and he's the man to get one here.

That's a good pro. Corn dogs, too. He was heavy in the corn dogs. Okay. Why is that? I don't know if that's a pro by any means. You have food. Any food in college is pretty good.

That's true. Cons, probably not the cleanest. That's what he said. He might claim I'm not the cleanest. No, not the cleanest. He actually, so there was like a four or five days stretch where he like Borline went nocturnal because he stayed up one night. And it wasn't even because he was drinking.

He just stayed up. couldn't sleep I get up to go to class the morning he's still awake like watching Sports Center and he always slept in the couch really like he he might have slept in his bed five times in year and he's like yeah I couldn't sleep I'm just gonna stay up until bedtime tonight and then go to sleep that's obviously not gonna work when you're laying on the couch all day so he fell asleep but probably one the afternoon slept till six and that was like on repeat for four or five days he would that was Joel in that shelf just reverse just reverse life like an owl

We can stay on Joel for this next one. Perfect. On a scale of from 1 to 10, how responsible was Joel for you having a black eye at your wedding? 11. And it wasn't at my wedding, thank God. It healed. It healed just in time. Yes.

Okay. Well, how did it happen? I still have a scar to show for it. Joel, as Joel can do, probably said a few words to somebody that didn't want it. This is at your bachelor party, right? Yeah. And someone came at him and I tried to stop. it and someone else sucker punch me so you were defending Joel Joel started it

you come in being the good friend you are and then you the one that gives sucker punch yeah it's unfortunate come on Joel 11 thanks Joel fight your own fights Joel I already believe Joel started some shit like that we seems very out of character weird I'm gonna need you to dig deep into the memory bank here we're going back a ways to 2007 okay I need to hear about if you can remember where did you hit your T shot on the 15th Cole at Olympic Club in your US AM match against Colt. Remember that T-ball?

Did we play 15? Nope, that's the whole. It was already over. You want to walk it in? Bastard. I told Cole I was going to have. Do you think if I ask him where he hit his shot on 15 and he'll know? I was hoping you wouldn't bring it up earlier at the show because I knew he had that question.

I just wait for that. I didn't know if you'd remember the score. Colo's jokes. My dad, every time he sees cold brings it up. And my dad. And he tries to break my damn hand when he shakes it. I know I get my competitors. from him, but also it's like, Dad, this is a long time ago.

Yeah, got to let it go. Cold had a nice run that summer. Let's let him have it. Yeah, yeah, I was good at amateur golf. Thanks, dad. Your son's won three times on tour. Oh, God. That's beautiful.

That's beautiful. Good match, though. Well played. Did you meet Michael Thompson? Yeah. That's one. I've looked, I don't look at a lot of amateur golf that much anymore, but when you look at past years, the quarter finalist, even the round of 16, a lot of a lot of USMs.

It's incredible. How many guys have been on tour? I know. What the hell has been on tour? happened. All right, next one. Go-to song to sing in the shower. Heard you got quite the pipes in the shower.

We'd like to hear a little bit of it. But I do sing. If you wouldn't mind. Oh, we just have a playlist for my son though, so I don't even... Gary Woodland used to sing the Star Spangled banner. I definitely don't sing that.

Well, yeah, you're Canadian. Oh, Canada? Do you have a good national... Do you sing it loud? I don't sing the shower as much I used to I'm more so probably in the car with my son I don't know with that one What's your son listening to?

I'm hip on the kids' playlist He So about a year ago Moana was huge Yeah it's a big It's a great juicy burger that soundtrack I can't contribute to this topic Bruno

Bruno haven't seen Bluey's a great show If you've watched that Yeah. Wano was the first probably like great soundtrack that he crushed. Like Lion King. Actually, you know, Lion King would be one that I've crushed plenty. So that was, I dragged him into that one.

I just went and saw Elton. He played some of this. Spectacular. Maybe put it out on an album for us. Maybe not. You want to hit? I'll let the Philly Eagles do that. Do you want to do a little, can you feel the love tonight?

Just whatever you can off the top. Maybe, maybe post. All right. I won't put you through that. But I do, I mean, I'm going to test your Canadian citizenship here. Canadian trivia. You want this? Not really. Really test. You're the champion of Canada.

You should know these type of things. Okay, I need to just name which of the following very aggressively named towns are not actual places in Canada. Okay. Okay, you ready for this? First location is Crotch Lake. Second location is Balls Falls. Third location is Dildo. Fourth is Climax.

And three of those are accurate? Just tell me which ones you don't think are real places. Could be made up, could be real. Oh, I'm testing. There's more than one could be. Possibly. I just need to. Those are their four names.

Do any of those? I think Crotch is real. Okay, that's correct. Crotch Lake is in Ontario. Second one was what, sir? Balls Falls. I think that's real. Ever been there?

It's a beautiful place. Balls Falls also in Ontario. Ontario's a weird, weird place. Okay? We got Dildo and Climax. Dildo seems too obvious to actually, I think that's a real place. You think I just came up with that?

I'll just throw in a dildo. You're correct. That's in Newfoundland. So either you're tricking me with all four are real or the last one isn't. Climax is the last option. I hate that's real too. Fucking guys. True Canadian.

That's in Saskatchewan. I mean, there's some weird shit going on up there. Seems like moose jaws. I don't know why anyone ever leaves. I'm going to swing over to Balls Falls, maybe pop back through climax, hit dildo on the way out. I wonder if any of Ontario boys have been to those places. Holy God, you guys are a strange breed.

All right. You know that you're officially Canadian. Good job. That's fantastic. All right, last one. Did you spend more time in college practicing your short game or beer pong? I'll say short game, but Kevin Spooner, again. He's a good source.

We're, we're tied at the hip for a lot of competitive things. We played probably more water pong, which we just practiced. He told me y'all legit had practice sessions with water pong. That's incredible. That's commitment. I bet Joel wasn't involved in too many of the water pong. It was, yeah, we got... He said y'all would play tournaments where you'd go multiple games where they didn't even get to shoot.

Damn, y'all are really good. Yeah, I mean, Kevin were good. All right, give me, if you had to pick a PGA tour player to be your partner, who do you think it'd be? Oof. I think Joel is pretty good. I'll tell you who's incredible. I know, I think. Steve Marino.

Yeah. It's absurd. I don't know Steve that well, but I can see that. He can go. I believe that, yeah, any game that. involves drinking Steve's probably pretty good. Joel's well, though. He's the past, by the way.

Well, Nick, man, this has been so much fun. Congrats on an incredible year. Being a Canadian hero. You're still my hero. Everyone in the town of Dildo is still talking about it. It's funny, actually, when Colt texts me to do this, our last text, or maybe it was before that, but it was all that was, you are my hero. Yeah, that was after Canadian Open.

Oh, I said you were my fucking hero. Also now come on our show. Yeah. No, this is after Canadian Open. I let him chill for a little bit, wait until you. I want to do it in person. Yeah, dude. We don't want to hit you up when everyone is hitting you up.

We let it settle. Awesome. Really reflect. Thank you. Thank you, dude. Appreciate your time. All right, that was Nick Taylor, joining us on subpar, man.

I love that guy. One of the nicest guys on the PGA tour. And like we said, one of the shots of the year. It's amazing he's made it this far, considering how close he is with Joel Damon. Yeah, hard to believe. I was talking to Joel beforehand

and I was like, give me some stories. And he gave me a bunch. It's like, all right, give me a few that we could use over there. But those two guys, man, there's a lot of talent that comes out of that west coast, that upper, upper northwest. He's one of them,

his amateur career was ridiculous. Winning that Canadian Open was a joke. And then, like we talked about, like, the President's Cup coming up in Montreal, there's a lot of Canadians are going to qualify that on their own. I got to think Captain's Picks, if it's even close, they're going to lean towards the Canadians. So great sit down. I thought that interview was, I enjoyed it too. He's not a guy who's gotten to spend a ton of time with, but he's a real deal of Holyfield.

I didn't get to spend a whole lot of time with him at the U.S.A.m. Yeah, I brought that up. I was like, well, how did that thing end on? I knew how he knew it was coming to. He's like, when are they going to bring it out? When are they going to bring it? I was like, yeah, tell me about that 15th. Ah, and that cart ride it in.

I do like a man that's dedicated to his craft. I mean, the practice sessions of beer pong with water. With water. That's a golf. We got to get ready. We got a big party coming up. But also one thing I learned, and actually, no one on our CBS team knew about this, that when Trevor kind of mentioned, like, thank you so much for Joyce.

This is the first time we ever had somebody on a Sunday, do the CBS walk and talk, and also someone that's leading. By the way, don't blow it. Had no idea. leading so only all of Canada is depending on you to go ahead and close this thing out so thanks for joining that was that was honestly one of my favorite interviews of the year I thought he did a fantastic job getting a little deep dive into that and I like his talk and you know his thoughts on like that 18th hole this year you know where the playoff was played is like it's kind of a quirky little

hole but it created some great great drama up there so that was fun sit down yes it was um all right let's get to some gambling no golf no golf to bet waiting on the hero shout out t dub in the field they were of that one spot. If you crack the code, it might have been for Tiger. He will be playing. All eyes will be on that. Not sure who will be on the bag. You know, I could, we could alternate days or possibly nine holes. We both have experience, bud. You know what I mean? And we're available. All right, but let's focus on some football. Michigan Wolverines let me down last week. I tried to ride them two weeks in a row. Came off to a hot start. And then they absolutely just shit the bad. But they still won, but whatever. I don't care about winning. I care about covering.

All eyes looking ahead to this week. Finally, slightly a big game. Finally, that's a lot. happening and that I cannot wait for that ball game. I think I believe I had the Washington. Yeah, I did because Nick Taylor was sitting right in here. I said this isn't a home or play. Washington getting it done at Oregon State kind of a nasty game, the rain and all that. But finally got one got one done. All right. Let's see if you can make it two in a row. For me this week, it's rivalry week. Got a lot of big games. That Ohio State Michigan game kind of scares me. Can't wait. It's in Michigan. By the way, the largest, the minimums, the Michigan Wolverines have been favored over Ohio,

or maybe the first time they've been favored over Ohio State in the last like five years. Yeah, they beat them last year at the shoot. Yeah. Now they're going back home. It's going to be a nice, good old-fashioned hate-filled football game. I can't wait. All right. Well, I'm going to go a different direction.

A team that has been scoring a shit ton of points, the LSU Tigers, are 11.5 point favorites over the Aggies. And they're all a mess down there. They're paying Jimbo Fisher $9 billion not to coach. Not sure who's going to be the next head coach down there. But give me the tiger. Go, Tigers. 11 and a half.

They're rolling. I mean, they had basically a buy this past week, but Jane Daniels playing spectacular. And yeah, A&M, I don't know who they think they're going to get, but good time to be Jimbo right now. A little 77 Mill coming through. Good gig if you can get it. Going to a game that typically has a lot of hype around it,

not so much this year with the state of the Auburn Tigers, but the Iron Bowl, Alabama versus Auburn. I'm only laying eight in a hook. Auburn just lost by 21 to New Mexico State. who it's supposed to be a buy a week you schedule a buy get yourself a buy they also pay them one point eight million to come into auburn and beat them not exactly playing their best ball right now and on the other hand bama kind of figuring it out like kind of sneaky under the radar if you want to call it for bama they still got a lot to play for only given eight and a half give me the tide

all right i'm okay with that sure i'm gonna send it i love every game until it's over yeah they're all good bets it's just the players sometimes blow it for us all right once again the holiday season's fast approaching go get your loved one some Sincoro, some polo, Ralph Lauren, and obviously some birdie juice merch over at Fairway Jockey. Hope everyone has a great Thanksgiving, and we'll talk to you on next week's subpar.