Subpar - Pat Perez talks his reinstatement by the PGA Tour, if Tiger Woods will be joining him on the Champions Tour

Episode Date: February 4, 2026

On this week's episode of GOLF's Subpar, Colt Knost and Drew Stoltz are joined by three-time PGA Tour winner Pat Perez live from Whiskey Row in Scottsdale, Arizona. The newly reinstated member of the PGA Tour talks his initial decision to leave for LIV Golf, how other players have reacted to his return and if he expects Tiger Woods to be teeing it up alongside him on the Champions Tour. --Thanks to our official sponsor Zone Nicotine. Warning: This product contains nicotine.  Nicotine is an additive chemical.  Underage sale prohibited.  Introducing Zone Nicotine Pouches - the perfect balance of unparalleled comfort - longer-lasting flavor - and nicotine that satisfies.  We’re in Phoenix, which is known to bring the heat. It’s the perfect spot to announce that a brand-new flavor of zone™ nicotine pouches has just arrived: Jalapeño Lime. A burst of citrus meets a subtle, fiery kick. Now available exclusively at select Phoenix-area Circle K stores. While you’re there, take advantage of the Buy 1 Get 4 Free promotion. Offer valid January 26th through February 15th, 2026.

Well, welcome, everybody. Thanks for coming out to Whiskey Row for this special subpar, brought to you by Zone. It's going to be a hell of a week. This is going to be the official start of WM Phoenix Open Week, I would say. You ready? I've been ready. Slees is a Thunderbird, by the way, for those that don't know. Why would you become a Thunderbird?

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Three-time, PJ Tour winner, recently reinstated member of the PJ Tour, eligible to fire once again January 1 of 2027. The great Pat Perez joins us. Patty, we have you, brother. Good a beer, good a beer, good a beer. Thank you, thank you, thank you. There you go.

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one bit, right? Like you're 46 years old. Yeah. Tail end to your career. It's getting harder and harder out there on the PGA tour. And you got a sweet deal from Liv. You went over there, played several years on DJ's team, the four aces, before going to broadcasting. But tell us a little about your time over there, Liv, and what it was like traveling around the world. It's a lot of

travel. I tell you that much. You know, some trips are I mean, 30 hours. I mean, they take care to incredible. I had a blast. I really did. You know, I played the PJ Tour of 21 years. I had never talked to anybody from live. And all of a sudden, I'm at dinner. Memorial and I got a call from DJ. It says, hey, bro, I just signed. I'm in London. I need somebody.

I said, well, you know, what's the deal? I've never talked to anybody from that group. And he said, they're going to send you a deal. I said, I don't know what you're talking about here. So I fly up to, I play that week, fly up to Toronto, I'm doing David Faradie's proam. And all of a sudden, paper comes in, and Dee's like, did you get it? I said, yes, I got to look it over. dot-t-da-da and I looked at it and then I started adding up a bunch of stuff and bunch of zeros I just I just started adding up bunch stuff and like years but I knew that if I did it that Jay Monahan and the PJ tour were not joking around when they said you're gone so I had you know it wasn't just financial it was like okay well I'm gonna be out of the tour and I

didn't really want to be out of the tour but I also you know it wasn't playing well struggling 46 like said I'm trying to get to the champions tour I just didn't know if I was going to make it all the way there and then sit out for a bunch of years. But Liv was actually phenomenal. I had a blast. We traveled around, you know, being with DJ, was great, playing with, you know, him and Brooks and Bryce and all these guys.

It was fun. But I don't know. I just, I don't know if I would have, I don't know if I'd have done it again. Seeing how it's all shaking out right now, Brooks is back. That happened quickly. Patrick Reed is going to be reinstated.

You're being reinstated. Knowing how it shook out, would you have done anything differently at the time? I don't know. If I was young, I mean, I definitely would have gone. I know. The thing is, I had a great time to tour.

I had a great time at live. I can't do anything different anyway, so it doesn't matter. But I'm just excited that I get to go to Champions Tour now. You know, I get to play three majors this year. My first one would be the U.S. Senior PGA at Concession in April. And then I get the U.S. Senior Open at Sioda and then the British Open at Glen Eagles. So I get those.

I can also play DP if I want to or Asian Tour events, stuff like that. I probably won't do much of that. But, you know, I'll be full steam. This year, next year, I basically got lifetime stats on the championship tour. So I'm just going to kind of hang out. I'm getting good at hanging out. I'm just curious because obviously it was talked about with Brooks was an exception, right? I mean, he's a five-time major winner.

He paid a massive fine to come back. Patrick Reed, different situation. Coming back in August, he has the chance to play some events. Right. For you, you turn 50 on March 1st. Yeah. Okay. Why are you not allowed to play starting in August?

So those guys resigned from the tour, which I didn't resign because I didn't want to resign. I just didn't know exactly what was going to happen. The way I looked at is if you resigned from the tour, that means they're going to have to reinstate you at some point. They don't actually have to do that. And the way it looked at that point, it didn't look like they were ever going to be able to do that or want to do it. So I just thought, you know what, I won't resign. I'll let it go. But then finding out when I didn't renew or sign the papers you sign every year in 23, you were already not a member.

So I'm actually paying a penalty for playing those tournaments. Those guys resigned so they don't face any penalty because they weren't members. It's like this loophole, I guess, type thing where you resign, and then now you don't face any penalties because you fall into this non-member category. And then you get to come back and they basically told me that if you would have resigned, you'd able to play in August. It's like they don't have jurisdiction over here. Yeah, they don't.

They don't. They have nothing. But since I stayed in, they're like, where you violate all these rules. Since your reinstatement was announced and now Brooks is back obviously too, have you talked to any players that you hadn't talked to

maybe while you were at live or had any reaction other than positive, hey, great to have you back. Yeah, no, I went over to Madison Club last week, put it on Tuesday at the, you know, at the Madison Pro Am there. I saw Brandt's Nettaker and Couture and Keith Mitchell and a bunch of guys.

They were like, hey, glad you're back. You know, we missed you, we're glad you're back. You know, but they know I'm going to the Champions Tour anyway. They know I'm not trying to get in signature events and, you know, you know, play on this tour. And I just want to get, you know, I want to get on the championship tour. And they were all excited. They were happy and like, hey, glad to see you back.

And, you know, good luck. I thought it would be a little different. You came up to Whisper Rock a few weeks ago and you got a damn standing ovation in the men's grill. I was like, God, we really like this guy still? I can fool them. You can't fool them. But they've been great. Everyone I've talked to them and seen, they've been awesome, you know.

But I never had a problem with any player. It wasn't like, and I told everybody the same thing. I never had a problem with the player. I got a deal that I did. just really couldn't refuse. And I feel like most of it, with some exceptions, was from the media. Like when this whole thing started, it was like kind of fuel in the fire. Most players were like, yeah, dude, I get it.

You know what I mean? You know, a lot of players got offered a lot of money. And guys just didn't take them. And that's what it was. And so it's just, it's every case is a separate deal. And players decided to go and some didn't. And whatever it is, it is. Whether you decide to stay or go, you know, it is what it is.

but I don't know. I just, I made a choice, and you live with it, and you move on. And, you know, I'm just thankful the tour's going to have me back, and I'll be able to play a Champions Tour at some point, and I'm looking forward to it. Yeah, and you're going to be a problem out there. I mean, I played it with you other day, and the game looks pretty good. I hope. I've been playing a lot.

I've been practicing a lot, you know, more resting than anything. But I'm excited to get back into again. I haven't played in a couple years, and I kind of needed a break anyway. I mean, I've been in the road since 1998, you know, traveling, playing all over the world. It's actually been so awesome to be at home with the kids, you know, be with them every morning, driving to school, go play, pick him up, have dinner, do the whole thing like a dad, you know, does.

I haven't been able to do it in my whole career. So it's actually been, it's been fun. So I'm not really that anxious to get out there yet, but I know starting next year it's going to be a busy nine years, so I'm really looking forward to both. A nice little break. Most people don't get to take a little, one or two years off from competition.

Makes you almost like appreciate the fact that you get to do it for a little. Yeah, I mean, golf is unique where you can play, and then if you take a break and you've actually done well enough, then they reward you with the Champions Tour, where you can play fifth yon and play as many as you want or not as many as you want. I mean, it's quite a luxury to have and pretty lucky to have it. Talk to me about your time broadcasting over there.

I cannot believe they let you have a microphone. I can't either. It was actually funny when they said, look, we said, we want you to be you. I said, guys, let me tell you something. That ain't going to work. I said, I got to find this alternate type of person that doesn't get me like shot or arrested or you know something like that I said just I got to

do something else I'd be worried more worried about that first one so I we do the rehearsal it's in riyadh do the rehearsal it's five degrees it's freezing and they come to me on the first one they're like we're going to do this run it's full run that's and I get and I'm frozen like I don't even know what to say so we get done I'm dead did terrible absolutely terrible Keith Hurstlin is you know he started golf, you know, stuff. And we get to the next morning, he goes, you know, I think we've made a mistake, you know, with you. I don't, I don't think this is going to work out, you know.

I said, no, no, I said, let me get another try. I said, I don't really know what I'm doing here. Let me just try to learn what's going on. I was talking to Britain about it. That next time, I'm like, I got to find something here. Like, how do they, I don't know what they're doing. And I said, you know what? Tomorrow I'm going to try, just putting myself in the player's shoes, like if I was

miced up. And then I did. And then I, man, that was so much better. And I said, well, okay. Couldn't go much lower. You can't go any lower. It's terrible. It was horrible, obviously.

So I did that, you know, but the pregame also helped me as well because talking with Fultz, me, Fultz is an absolute pros, pro. I mean, the guy's incredible. Farrity helped me out. Everybody in the team was phenomenal. They just, they helped me out as much as they could. And, you know, but then again, then the mic now, we're on live, first day. And I'm just, I've got DJ, of course.

You know, so I don't know what the hell I'm saying. He's so fast. I can't get it out fast enough before he hits. And the ball is gone. I'm like, still building up the shot. ball's almost on the green and the hardest thing about it, you know, you've done it longer, the timing of it is trying to find the time. But Jerry was a pro because he helped set me up into like, hey, Pat, you know, we're going

down to you. You got, you know, Dustin here, what's he got? And that kind of helped me out. And then they said, look, eventually you're going to have to be able to do this on your own. You're going to have to know the timing of when to come in and also not talk over somebody if, you know, Jerry or David's going to say something. You guys have got to figure this out. I said, you know, how do we do it?

I don't know. You're going to figure it out. Tell me about this Arlo White, okay? Because for you all of these, you all don't know, he's the lead guy over on Liv, but he's also the voice on Ted Lassau, which I'm sure all of you to see. And it seems like, I mean, that voice is just on at all times. A lot of energy, that man. He pumps about 12 Celsius a day.

Oh, sleet. You are a slacker sleaze. I introduce you to Zone. He likes the wine like I do. We had, Arlo's fantastic. He's a perfect hype guy. I mean, just perfect hype guys. I mean, a three-footer sounds like they just hold the World Cup.

Exactly. I mean, he's awesome. He was so good. He's perfect energy for it. Studies. I mean, he's got this, he's got this notebook like this of all the players and all the stats and everything you could possibly, you know, need for what he does. So he's actually done a lot of work because this guy came from a total different sport

and just got thrown in the golf. He's done a great job, a great hype man. And, of course, he got Farity. He's been around the game forever. He'll always throw a line in or, you know, throw some nuts. knowledge and then you got Fulte who's just you know the absolute pro doing it so were you more nervous playing or the first time you're on a broadcast no not even close I mean broad no one cares if you suck on the go-office but no one's watching me anyway yeah no one they're not watching me anyway but now

they're all of a sudden on live you know TV the hardest one so they do this nine at nine so after nine holes they do like this recap of what everybody just saw I don't know why what we were doing that anyway so I get up there and they go you know come you next big boy and now I'm trying to think of what group I have and what do they do and what their score is and all this stuff and I'm looking at this camera and the guy's like looking at me and I'm like yeah yeah DJ and yeah and I just I'm like I just cut it over to you so Ed over to you somebody goodbye gives you like appreciation though huh for these like dudes doing it like it's thing like when someone messes up or says something stupid like oh that's the dumbest comment

I've ever heard and then all of a sudden you're like oh the word you're the one talking for four hours you're like oh yeah that can happen so there's always they always you know they put me with the lead group so that's what all the people are all the people are all the people so the people with that so the worst one was that to row coming off nine coming to 10 now as soon as you get done with that night I told you've got to find a spot to set up but sometimes you can't get away from all the people so I'm 10 they're really like we're coming to you in 30 seconds Like dude, I'm not even anywhere near a spot. So I park it right on the cart path going down 10.

And all of a sudden, here they all start coming off. You know, because I got Bryson and Brooks and everybody. And I got all these people yelling at me in my ear. They're behind the cameras. They're basically like tackling me. And I said, and then the worst case, I've got Bryson. So now I'm ready to go. I've already got to recap in my mind what's happened.

And Farity goes, hey Pat, coming down to you. So what's going on with Phil? Let me tell you about DJ. I said, I don't have Phil. Bryson. I got everybody on. I said, I got nothing. And I just walked away.

I almost left the mic and I almost walked in. What I'm gathering from this is we're done with TV. Done with TV for now. For now? For now. I might do it again one day. Who knows? I might do it again down the line.

I actually had a blast. I had a blast learning, you know, the ins and outs and, you know, timing of it. Keith Herson was incredible. he taught me a ton. You know, the whole team did. They taught me a ton. It was really fun to learn, like, how to do it.

And, of course, the easiest part was actually talking about the players because I'd played with them all for three years. I know, you know, so well. So I know the personalities. I know the way they hit shots. And once I started to get the hang of, you know, what I was doing, setting up the shafts was easy because I knew what these guys were going to do anyway. Whether or not it was tough.

How much different was, like, traveling on that tour? Like, you got a team. Does it feel more like college? Does it truly feel like that? Or is that just kind of the way it's marketed? Yeah, I mean, DJ really took care of me. He, you know, he'd have a plane or, you know, he would take me. But if not, I mean, you're flying first class.

They put you up with the Ritz. They got three squares a day. You know, they got this team room, all the booze and food you can drink, eat. Caddies were the ones that are treated like gold. I mean, caddies are literally treated like gold. They got, you know, business seats, their own hotel, their own restaurant to eat. It's all upside for everybody. You know, and that was.

what was so, I think that was what was so fun about it, is when you leave the house for two, three weeks, you're not out of dime. And you literally live in like, you know, Steph Curry for, you know. Well, he just signed for 890 million with Nike, so that would be nice. Pretty good gig.

That's pretty good deal. Let's talk a little bit about this week here, the WM Phoenix Open, which, in my opinion, knowing you as well as I do, I would say you have a love-hate relationship with the place. What's it like playing here in front of this crazy crowd? It's something, you know, the first year I played was 02, and it wasn't anywhere near what it is today.

I didn't, I, uh, it took me nine years to make the cut. Okay. So I already had some bad members. You're not a quitter. And then, oh, and then my 10th time, I was leading the tournament. I didn't win, but, uh, it's something. I'll tell you. I mean, it's something.

Coming down there late on the weekend, I mean, they are, they are loud. I mean, they're loud. Do you enjoy it, though? I don't think I enjoy as much as I should have. I should have looked at a little differently, but, you know, because I'm trying to, I've had so many Fridays where I'm trying to make the cut. And you go through 15, 16, 17, they're yelling at you

and they're all this. I mean, there's real stuff in the line here. I'm trying to get in. I don't play that course well anyway. I'm trying to get in. They're just, they're all over you. And, you know, the best time I ever, the only time I really made a cut is when I teed off later on one on Friday.

And I would slow down to try to not get the 16T. By the time it was dark. All you drugs go home. So I'd get to 16T in the morning. It was nobody there. It was perfect. That's pretty smart. That is smart.

Do you have the most memorable like 16 experience, whether it was a shot you hit or somebody else? No, I made a bunch of fives. I mean, I've been booed. Five. A lot of boot.

Five. Five part of me. Food left and right. I mean, just wearing it. You ripped some guy's shirt in half. Yeah. No.

You know what it was? So that guy, they were yelling at me from up there, yelling at me. And I, he goes, we got a shirt. We got a shirt.

I'm like, dude, I don't care. you know and they throw this shirt down and it's me slamming my club at pebble it's a beautiful pitcher it is beautiful now looking back at it now i would i would i would take that i'm actually upset because now i would have kept it i actually would have put it on yeah see but i was in a different zone at that point and i mean i got pissed i was pissed i ripped it probably bad bad play but i should have i should have i should have kept it today i would wear it i forgot about that pebble club

i did it break no i was it a three-year-old That was an old steelhead. That was a tough shot. That's like one of the, like old school. That's notable freakouts. That divot was worth about $12 million. It was $18. Yeah, that was real estate right there.

Yeah, that's, it's 24 years not enough to forget that. It was a beautiful moment. But thank you. It was a hell. Yeah, I would get a water. Anybody, please? Yeah, we'll get some water for you, Pat. Didn't mean to make you nervous talking about your club slam.

Got plenty of them. I do want to know because. As much as golfers don't like to admit they watch golf, you do watch it. I watch a ton of it. And what Scottie Shephler is doing right now is just absolutely absurd. Like this guy is two and a half to one to win this week in a very good field at Phoenix. What do you think about what he's doing? You know, Tiger's two months older than I am.

I met him when we were eight years old. I've played against him. Well, not necessarily lately. But, you know, thank you. I've played against this guy my whole life and not in my lifetime that I think I'd find a, you know, see a guy. that plays anywhere. That's not the same game, obviously, but dominant as him. I just didn't think it would come because I still think that Rory is the closest I've seen,

talent-wise, too, Tiger. You know, I don't think anybody's ever going to get to 82 wins and all that stuff again. But this guy, this guy's different. I mean, I don't know what it is. And I love the way he goes about his business. It's just golf, go home, family. There's no flash. There's no nothing.

He just literally does what he does, and he goes home. It's almost like he doesn't realize what he's doing and how incredible it is. But I watch it. I mean, the feet moving all this, I just can't get my head around because, you know, you watch another guy who's perfect positions, you know, looks like Ray Lewis, you know, just winning everything all the time. And then here comes this guy and he's got, you know, shots and the hands, all this other stuff. But he's a phenomenal to putter.

He is now. He never misses the center. You know, what he does is incredible. I think it's phenomenal. You know, it's so good for the sport because you always, you don't want to go too far before you get another guy. But again, about five years ago, I did not think anybody would come out of that young talent. You know, not young, they're 30, but younger to me. But, you know, the Spee's and the Thomas's and all these guys, I didn't think somebody would ever really separate like that.

Oh, he is separated. It's beyond. I don't think anybody did. It's almost more impressive, like, to your point, like going back to Tiger. He could do things that, like, nobody else could do. You could watch him make a shot, but like, well, I'll just never do that. Never. Scottie doesn't really have a shot that, like, other people just can't do.

He just never messes up. I think it's almost like, makes it more. He just never messes up. I mean, Tiger hit it all over the map sometimes, and he'd hit this wedge over a tree to a foot in the dark. I mean, stuff like that. It's just the theater he put on was incredible, you know, and Scotty's doing it just in a different way. But I just, I can't believe that he's separated himself so much. Like, when the guy tees up, you know he's going to be there.

at the end. The boys texted me today, said, who should we take on the weekend? I'm like, Shepard's going to win. I mean, I can tell you right now.

I mean, if he's anywhere near the lead, at American Express, he's going to win. I talked to Situ Saturday at Tori Pines last week, and he was in the last group with Scotty at American Express,

and he was leading by one. Right. And I said, how was it playing with Scotty on Sunday? He goes, I said, I hope I just finished second. I mean, this is one of the best players in the world

with a lead. And he was like, I just hope I finish second because he's that good. And like you said, it's got to drive the guy's nuts because, like Slee said, they can do everything he can do. He just does it way more often. And he's the nicest guy ever. Like when Tiger walked on the range, you knew it.

It was different. I mean, there was an oar. There was a presence. It was intimidating. When that red showed up. Yeah. And then you started wearing the mock. I mean, it looks like a, you know, a mannequin.

Just a mannequin. Just a manikin just perfect. And now Scotty walks on. It's like, hey, Scott. I was dinner. Like, you know, cool. You're about to win by eight again. The intimidation factor that Tiger had is like nothing of, you know, you might not see it again.

It's just different. You know, I was close to them. I knew him, my whole life and all the stuff. You're not where you hung out or anything, but, you know, I'd be able to talk to him on the range and find out what's going on. How you doing? How's life, whatever?

It was just different. When he showed up to an event, it was, it was just, it was spectacular. Like the Sunday scoring averages of the people that he played with. The joke. They were like shooting 74. That's what makes, that's what makes him VJ's nine-win season so impressive because he went against him, you know?

And then Phil, as great as Phil is, you know, He just, I mean, but, you know, Phil will tell you, Tiger pushed him. Tiger pushed him. Here's a guy of 46 wins, six majors, you know, one in one of 50. I mean, but Tiger, man, it's so unfortunate of what has happened to this guy because I would love to have seen what could have been, what the final numbers could have been without all the stuff. It'll be one of the great what-ifs.

I don't think Scotty will run into the same issues, but it's one of the great what-ifs. I think they're tied on arrests, though, at the moment. valid that is true if I put you on the spot right here this is probably tough but I mean as many times as you've played with Tiger is there one shot that sticks out

I mean he basically invented the stinger you know how he used an iron around Hoy Lake to win it's hard to deal because one you've got to be hard enough you got to hit it low enough but he was you know the thing about Tiger

he was the best putter by far It wasn't even close. And someone had to make a put from 10 to 15 feet that had to go in. It was in. You just knew it. It was not a three-footer missed ever. Never. But everything he did was just so above and beyond what all of us, you know, playing could even fathom.

Like, how the hell is this guy doing all this? I mean, we know the positions are perfect and this and this and how does he continue to make these shots happen when they're absolutely having to be happening? You know, everyone's got that dream. Oh, if I had this shot to, you know, do this, you know, what I'd be able to do? pulled off. Well, he did. He did it a lot. 82 times. 82 times and, you know, 15. And again, I wish, you know, the numbers were

higher because he deserves the numbers to be over 100 wins. And I thought for sure, I mean, honestly, if 2005 you had a bet this guy's not going to win 30 majors and 110 times, everyone. You know what's going to be crazy, though, is like 50 years from now when he's gone and everybody, you're going to be telling like young kids about this

story of this Tiger Woods and there. No one's going to believe it. No, they did what? Yeah, exactly. It's incredible. It really Yeah, but Scottie, to your point, Scotty, he's doing things. I just, I didn't think he was going to separate. I didn't think there was somebody in that group that could separate. I really thought it was going to be Roy, to be honest with you. Because Rory's action is phenomenal, huge speed, you know, works his ass off.

I just thought he was going to be the one that kind of, you know, got the Grand Slam. Obviously, that's, that's, you know, incredible achievement. But I just thought he was going to be the guy that everybody was going to be chasing. Dude, after 2014, if you said, hey, that guy won't win another major for a decade. That's unreal. I mean, I'll bet you anything you want. You lose every dime you had. Anything you want.

want. Do you think you see Tiger on champions tour this year? Yeah, I hope so. You'll have more, you'll have more spectators there. If you'd have more people watching that, then, you know, he told me a long time ago he would only play the U.S. Senior Open because he wants all the USDA trophies. Only guy ever, right? It'd be the only guy ever. So I hope he's healthy enough. I hope he can play. It'd be great to have him out there. You know, it would help the championship tour out a ton. I don't know. The thing is, I think at the point he's at, if he's going to be able to play, he's going to play a signature bat. You know, he's not going to go to, I don't even know where the cities are, I got to look

him up, but, you know, I hope he plays at least a couple senior opens. Yeah, if he's healthy enough, you think he played the majors? U.S. Open, I'm just kind of assuming. You know, if the British Open would probably be the one. Maybe, you know, if he, if the British Open's up, if he's healthy enough, the British Open's back to back, he'd stay over for the second one. I can see that, definitely. I just don't know how much he's going to play.

I don't know what, what shape he's in or, you know, how his body is after the, Serge, I don't know, but it would just be nice to see him play. I don't want it. I hate to see him go out, you know, where he can't, just can't do it. Yeah, he did just sign that deal with Insperity, and they have a senior tour in May. I hope that's in there. Very possible. I hope that's in there.

Before we end this real quick, it is Super Bowl week. It is. Seahawks, Pats, Cahawks minus four and a half. What does Pat Perez think is going to happen? I like the Seahawks. I do. I like Seahawks. You got a couple cheers.

I mean, Pat would be for the Pats. No, I just, I don't know. I think Drake, Drake May is incredible. I don't know. I'm actually pulling for the coach because he's the only one that would have, where you'd have a ring playing and coaching. Brable's the man. Rable would be awesome.

I think it would be awesome. I don't know if you know of Rabel, you'd get along very well with him. Y'all be fast friends. I'm just up for a good game. I mean, like the national championship game was incredible. I just hoped for one of that. I don't really have a favorite either way because I'm not, you know, I used to be a Chargers fan.

You used to be? You're done? Did you retire? When they went to LA, I was done. Oh, okay. I hit, I'm not for L.A. So, but hopefully it's good game. Yeah, hopefully it's good game.

But, man, always good catching up with you, Pat. Good to have you back on Subpar, man. We appreciate you. Appreciate it, thanks. Pat Perez, everyone. Thank you.