Subpar - Paul Casey Interview: Behind the scenes at the Ryder Cup and how today's stars compare to Tiger in his prime

Episode Date: March 31, 2020

On this week's episode, three time PGA Tour winner Paul Casey joins former PGA Tour pro Colt Knost and his close friend and on course rival Drew Stoltz for an exclusive, in-studio interview. The back to back winner of the Valspar Championship discusses the behind the scenes of playing in the Ryder Cup, an amazing thing he witnessed at the Masters, and how today's stars compare to Tiger in his prime.

Hello world and welcome to this week's episode of Golf Subpar. I am Colt Nose, joined always by my man, Drew, the sleazy man Stoltz. What's happening, Drew? Good to be with you, baby. Day by day. Just hanging in during this weird time right now. I love it, but we still keep bringing the heat. Trying to.

Another big guest this week. Rider Cup stalworth. Paul Casey is joining us in studio. Yes, it's nice to have a man from across the pond here. Give us a little bit of different perspective. Great interview with Paul. Shout out to him for giving us a little bit of time. Got inside the, you.

European locker room just a little bit. He was very hesitant to disclose too much information, but we did get a little bit of tips here and there as to why they are so dominant in that format. Yeah, he had some great stories about the Ryder Cup, some great stories about playing in the Tiger Woods dominated era. But here we go. Our interview with Paul Casey on golf subpar. All right, we are now joined in studio at Golf Subpar with 14-time winner on the European tour, three-time PJ Tour winner. Paul Casey, welcome to the show. My man. man. Thank you for taking the time. Good to be here. Thank you for inviting me. Good to have you. And there is some free time right now with all this going on.

This Corona outbreak. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Don't say there's nothing else to do. It's an honor to be on this show. Admit it. Okay, rewind. Yes, it's an honor to be on the show. Yes, thank you. Thank you. Privilege. What are we doing? This is a unique time for everybody, but for golfers, especially, no golf, no nothing going on. How are you handling all this free time that you finally have? I don't know yet. I mean, I packed up the clubs on Friday at Sawgrass, and I haven't unpacked them. They're still sitting in the club club in the garage. garage the garage the garage for all you people American people at home honestly honestly I have no idea none of us have any idea well we currently you know from a golf perspective schedule we'll talk about it schedule's being blown to pieces um cups have been raised cult's all upset because now you know his money games at whisper everybody's making

20 footers because they're just smashing the golf ball against the cup which is not fair i've one i'm good at one thing in this game and it's putting and it's really taken away from me right now just coronavirus yeah The elevated cup kind of levels the playing field. I'd be like letting you drop it 3.30 in the middle of fairway. Yeah, cool. Perfect. Yeah.

All right. Now we'll play. There's a disease back there at 260. I got to go forward a little further. Yeah. But on a serious note, like when you're in the middle of your season or in the off season, like, what's the longest break you think you've ever taken from the clubs? Or you absolutely put them down because right now you said you've totally put them away. I've done it for probably four weeks, three weeks, four weeks.

That's a long time. That's a long time. but that's probably been four or five years since I've done that. But you hit it so good. I mean, it's like riding a bike for you. Thank you. Yeah, yeah. I mean, you are a good ball striker.

Yeah, but I, but I, but I worry about it. Like if I take too much time off, then I worry about getting it back. Because it's the one part of my game I've always been good at, but it's like I've got to work at it. I work incredibly hard at it. So I do worry about it. This is, this is strange though. This is going to be weird because golf clubs, as you know, is closing round here,

play's being limited. I used to go down at Papago in practice. I can't go down there because the ASU facility which is phenomenal. If you're not a student not student athlete, it's not a student at ASU, you can't go down. So I can't go down there. I could go to Papago, but I can't go to

the ASU's facility. One of the golf clubs that I'm a member at in town, we won't mention the name. They've had a member and his wife test positive for coronavirus. So that's been that's a moving situation, situation.

Whisper's banned guests. Yes. Silver Leafs ban guests as well. That's what I said. If Golf Club if Whisper Rock shuts down,

I got a serious problem. Yeah, well, California, I assume is everything shut down. It looks like, I haven't, right.

Apparently everything's on lockdown. New York looks like it's on lockdown. So I guess that golf clubs are shut there. I think they're shut in Michigan as well.

But like golf's the one thing and I've read a lot about it. I mean, you can still get away with it. I mean, you get your clubs out of your own car. You take them. You carry them yourself. You're not touching

anyone, you're not, you know, tossing golf balls back and forth to each other. I mean, you could still play golf. One hundred percent. Yeah. There's still. We need that. Yeah. And, look, and, you know, being conscious of maybe golf courses and not going to, facilities are not going to be in as perfect shape as they normally are in this country. Because we can't expect people to go to work if they don't want to go to work, sanitizing machinery, mowers, that kind of stuff. So maybe, look, the greens are going to get cut a little less than they normally are, and bunkers might not be right. And, I'm absolutely fine with that.

You know, I grew up playing on some, some, yeah, less than perfect golf courses, and I'm sure you guys did as well. So I'm fine with that. I don't mind playing in a less than perfect golf course. I'll go play around a park. I really don't care. I'll set up a golf course. Once you get your clubs out of the garage, that is.

The garage, the garage, yes. Is there any part of you where this is kind of like take away all the health concerns and everything like that, but to have a time where, like, not only can you not put You don't even have the option to play golf. You can't go play if you want. Is it nice to have like a little time off for the first time in your career? Yes and no. It's all strange.

Coming into a week where he's the two-time defending champion at Balspar. I know, yeah. It's just strange. It's just weird. Because normally it's a choice. This is not a choice. Were you for the tour canceling the players championship or did you think y'all should keep going without fans for that week? It got weird as soon as there was the proposed travel ban back to Europe.

I thought that was the strange one. That was like a tipping point for me thinking, hang on, you could have Wiesberger here. He could be winning this thing on a Saturday Sunday and not be able to fly home to Austria. I suddenly thought, that's, okay, hang on a second. We are, yes, this is the Players' Championship, PJ Tour, but this is a global sport.

That was like a tipping point, like this stuff just got real. Yeah, I thought that the possibility, well, we were going to be behind closed doors, it looked like, as of kind of Thursday, Friday. that was the chat for the weekend. But it just flipped on its head in, what, 48 hours, not even? Yeah, it was the fastest change in this was like the NBA announced, then everything was like, bam, bam, bam, bam.

Every sport just shut down and said, all right, we're shut down too. Best case scenario, when do you think the PGA tour will be back in action? Oh, well, best case scenario is whatever the CDC have been saying, which is, what, eight weeks were going to be kind of no social distancing for eight weeks, no groups larger and however many it is. Honestly, do I see that playing out? No, I think it's going to be longer than that. I mean, I've got to wear it.

Look, I'm on the player advisory council as you know. We talk about and we've got to say the right things. But if you ask me, take off my PGA tour hat for a second. I know this, you know, who's broadcasting this. I know who's tuning in. But I don't see that happening right now. Because you look, again, from a global perspective, if you look at this and you talk about the UK, London have just said that they expect

this thing to basically be through the end of the year. And there's other countries. I mean, nobody's even mentioned. We talked about it when I came in, like Africa and India and these other countries that nobody seems to have mentioned yet. I don't know what's happening there in terms of this pandemic. But this has got legs, is my feeling. Every day that goes, it feels like the timeline until normalcy is being stretched out.

How, how, how, the whole thing sucks. Let's get that. Oh, 100%. But how pissed are you that it just happens to start right before the event where you're the two-time defending champion? You're your little breadbask, you're a little honeypot. I know, I know, I know. It's, uh, it's, I feel for Tracy West, uh, and all the team down there in, in, in the whole Tampa Bay area. I mean, that that's, look, there's a lot of, um, you know, this sucks for me.

Don't feel sorry for me. Right. You know, I don't like not being at home, not being on to play golf, but this really sucks for everybody down there who, that tournament was 99% ready to go. It was right there on the thing. They're going to lose a ton of money. There's vendors down there, suppliers who are, they could lose their livelihoods based on this. And then every event after that, you know, match play, Dell match play, and then whatever we are after that. Hang on what comes before, I should know.

San Antonio. San Antonio, thank you. Then the Masters and then Hilton Head and all that. So everybody's going to be massively affected. Does it? Yeah, of course it sucks. I'd love to try for three in a row. It was like an annuity for me, wasn't it?

There's one week I don't want this thing to overlap. This would be it. Well, no disrespect to you or the Valspar championship, but I'm going to say if the city could choose between having Paul Casey win three in a row or get Tom Brady. Tom Brady. See, and I knew something was going on. Because, so where are we?

We're at the end of the week already. So this Monday, Tuesday, just gone, I was meant to be with my caddy, Johnny Long Sox McLaren. He has never, so as many times as he's worked the Masters and strolled around Augusta National, he's never played it. And he like myself and you guys, he knows a lot of members, but he's always turned it down. And we said, look, an invite came in from one of the members there to Johnny and myself, but mainly Johnny, Johnny, you need to play it. Would you like to play it? And eventually I'm like, can't hit you. But come on, let's just accept it.

that was way too close so he accepted this invite and we'd planned and we'd arranged it all to go down and play on the Monday just gone and maybe a little bit of Tuesday as well and the member had arranged oh when I touched my face that's bad shows over yeah so we'd arrange to go down and he said I got the fourth

I've got the fourth and this is going back now to AT&T at Pebble Beach we'd arrange this all up and it was the fourth was going to be Tom Brady No. And then we got word from the member that he's out. Our fourth is out. And we're like, why? He goes, well, because he's signing was what we heard.

Okay. And we're like signing. He's signing on the Wednesday of that week. Right. And we're like signing. Well, he wouldn't pull out of playing Augusta, especially with us or Johnny, if he was just renewing or making an announcement that he was staying in New England. So we knew something was up.

Interesting. So I didn't know it was Tampa. I was out ahead of it, but I didn't know what was going on because we were thinking, is it charges, is it this? I mean, my football knowledge is limited. Sure, but, hey, Tom, you can sign from Augusta, just as he is, you can sign from that Hampton Inn or whatever he signed in back home. So, yeah, but back to, so.

That's a tough break for your boy. So tough break for my boy, he's not, he's still not played Augusta, and we'll try and make that happen at some point. But yeah, I mean, it's good for the Tampa Bay area. Oh, yeah, they've lost me. They've lost the Alscar. They gained Tom Brady. I don't know.

You would have pulled the whole city. I think they're okay with the whole deal. Totally. Well, let's go back to kind of your early years. First of all, you obviously did not grow up in the United States, but you came to college over here at Arizona State. One, why Arizona State? And two, y'all had an absolutely stacked golf team.

We had a stacked team. Tell us a little bit about that. So how Arizona State, I'll give you that. This is early Internet days. This was like in the 90s, late, mid-night 90s. And ASU had just won national championships in 96. And so writing letters, as you did, it wasn't like Google and stuff back then. It was writing letters to coaches.

Of course, I wrote one to ASU, being national championships. I got a letter back. I won't give it a real long story, but I ended up, I just happened to know a guy called Ron Cummins who played golf at USC back in, he won nationals in, I think, like 81. And Randy was the coach at USC at the time. Now he was coach at ASU. and I knew Ron, and Ron put in a good word, and I ended up at a recruiting trip at ASU, which was September 96, first ever football game I'd ever seen in my life, which was ASUed

against Nebraska. Plummer's the quarterback, Tillman's the safety, running around, they beat Nebraska 19-0. Scott Johnson was my host. He was part of that national championship-winning team. He wanted to get me out of the stadium. All I wanted to do was go down on the field and tear down the goalposts, which I did. That's a good trip. No wonder you signed.

And I thought every football game's like this. ASU. This is what it's like on a weekend. This is awesome. So it was sunshine. It was, it was girls. It was alcohol. I'm okay. That's it. That's the greatest. And literally it was to me, it was the greatest place on the planet. And it was far away from my parents as possible, you know, 5,000 miles or so, which was a good deal. So that's how I ended up here. I just signed. I readshirted it. I had no scholarship. I read shirted it for six months, starting in January 97. Luckily, I played some pretty good golf and coach off of me a scholarship when the fall started back up again.

And you're right, the team was stacked. It was Pat Perez. It was Jeff Quinny. It was Gin Park. Matt Jones. Ches eventually came as well. We were never out the side of the top five. We were going up against Oakey State, which was guys like Chucky Three Sticks,

UNLV, Adam Scott, and Charlie Hoffman and those guys. I mean, we were, yeah. And you obviously loved it because you made this now you're home. I've spent basically my entire adult life in this country. Yeah, people forget that. So, 23 years, whatever that is, 20, I can't even do the calculations, see my ASU education. 23 is 5. 20 plus.

Yeah. I find it interesting. You and Pat Perez, who you mentioned was part of the ASU golf team, you guys are still very good buddies to this day. And from the outside looking in, like you guys, like, that looks like a complete odd couple, like complete odd. We are. You got this obnoxious, loud, long-haired American.

and then you got you a very soft-spoken, nice, you know. Did I tell you the first time we met? No, but I'd love to hear that. And anytime you want a bag on Pat as hard as you want, this is an open forum. I love Pat and Pat loves me. Oh, we love them too, but it's... So first time I ever met Pat, so there I am this, you know,

pasty white English kid off the plane, wintertime, 1997, January 97. And I'm hitting golf balls. I'm like, nothing going on, down at the range of AS Hugh at Carston. Rest in peace, it's no longer there. and we've got acres and acres of space and this chipping green that's just behind me and out comes this kid and he dumps down his shag bag and I'm the only person out there and I'm hitting onto the range he dumps down his shag bag

25 feet from me gives me this glare and hits this golf ball straight over my head to this chipping green behind me he's got acres of room and this punk kind of puts down this and hits this golf and the divot lands right at my feet and I'm like what is this and I look at him and he looks at me. And so as he hits the second one over my head, I just wander over. And I said, all right, what's your name? Pat. All right, Pat, my name's Paul. I said, this is really easy. I said, I was here first. You were here second. So either you move or I move you. And he kind of looks at me. Perfect. And he goes, and he figured I wasn't joking. And so he moved. And that was it. That was great. Back down. I love that. Back down. First intro with you and Pat.

Yeah. And so, and unbeknownst to me, my apartment was next door to his. Our front doors were six feet apart. And, oh, we abused each other. We called each other names constantly. But we'd be around there playing, playing cards, playing poker, drinking, doing what we did in college. Welcome to America. Here's the amazing golf. Here's your buddy, Pat. He's going to show you the way. Yeah. And that's what, look, and you know Pat, you know the real Pat. Pat's, Pat's a teddy bear. He's awesome. I love him today. That's what I was going to say. He's got that rough look like he's all mean. He wants every. He's a nice.

But he would, he would, you know, he would challenge guys. He would, and some guys would stand up to him or be able to deal with it. And they would thrive. And there were other guys who'd cave into Pat and he'd have him. You know, that was it. But deep down, it's because he was just, he's just Pat. He's just a big teddy bear.

But he's, you know, ultra competitive. He's good at what he does. He just does it in Pat's style. Yeah. Which I'm cool with. I didn't know him in college, but I'm assuming he's still the exact same That's exactly. And that's why I love him because he's consistent.

There's, you know, I love the guys on tour who are consistent. And yeah, he is one of the most consistent guys on tour. What you see is what you get and he never changes and I fully respect him for that. You know exactly where you stay in with that, which is great. Either likes you, if he doesn't like you, you're going to know. It's pretty easy. I don't think he dislikes a lot of, he doesn't dislike a lot of people or anything. He just has an opinion.

And he doesn't kind of, yeah. Yeah, he's just him. And if you like it and mesh with that, cool, be friends. Because he doesn't really try to. He pretty much likes everybody. Like me. I want you to like me. He's not that guy.

You know what I mean? That's an incredible story. He just pops them down and starts hitting shots over your head. Just like, you don't matter. Punk. And then you, yeah, exactly. I love that. Exactly.

So you obviously, you went on to have a very successful college career. You won the Pac-12 three years in a row. Went on to the Walker Cup, went undefeated. Four and O, which is a rather big a cop. It was only the second time, I think, a British player would have gone undefeated, 4-0. And then Luke was the third, like 30 minutes after me. Yeah. He went 4-0 that week as well.

You all busted the Americans that year, didn't you? We did. I think it was tight, and then we'd, I can't remember you'd have to look up the score, but we kind of steamrolled them on the Sunday. On the Sunday singles, I played John Spider-Miller. Oh, wow. Yeah. Yeah.

Legend. But it was a good team. We had a good team. They had a good team. They had a good team. It was good stuff. It kind of led me... So you went 4-0 there.

Then you went on and had... I mean, you played in Sevy trophies, all this. Had a winning Ryder Cup record. You've won the world match play. Well, you just didn't win it. You beat Sean McKeel 10 and 8. Yeah, 10 and 8. I remember that one.

That one was... Poor guy. I mean, turned that off after the first night. This is going to get bloody. But like, your record in match play is just absolutely incredible. What is it? Is there something... You have a secret that you don't want to share?

Or is it just... You've always been good at it. Well, growing up in the UK, you've... play a lot of matchplay. I think that's the only real secret. We have a lot of matches at a county level, at junior level, which are just match play. We always play foursomes in the morning, singles in the afternoon, a couple of drinks afterwards. It's just kind of what you did. So are there secrets to match play? I don't know. I think there's little tricks, little, you know, knowing when to

kind of press, knowing when to, you know, make the guy, you know, tap in from three feet, you know, just the little things. I don't think there's any gamesmanship. Just good solid golf is, you know, always being in the hole. If you have an amazing short game, if you make a lot of puts like you do, I mean, it can just be brain damage to the other guy who's smashing it down the middle, 3.30. But if the guy's chipping in from all over the place, I mean, that's tough to beat. And you get used to that. You get to kind of expect the unexpected. It's always assumed the guy's going to make the next shot. So it's almost like a mentality and you learn that stuff. And it just kind of held. So I think you're right.

of I've got a good matchplay record, but I think you'd look at a lot of the Europeans and they've got a good match play record. Do you wish there was more matchplay on the PG? Like you have the WGC? Do you wish there was more? Yeah, but it's, like, maybe two, three. I do, but it's a difficult sell for sponsors, you know, and even the, even the Dell. That's always like, how do you sell it?

You know, they build this infrastructure that goes in and millions and millions of dollars are spent, and they'll use that big hospitality unit, and they'll see 20 minutes of golf on Sunday. And it's like, that's just this. what's the ROI on that? It's terrible. So, to play is one more. You never know who ends up in the finals.

It could be, you obviously want two of the biggest names in golf with the way with golf works. Like anything can happen. You can get two guys that no one, you know, aren't the biggest TV draws. And then it's like boom. Yeah. It used to be where it was one through 64, just like the NCAA. I mean, Tiger gets knocked out in the first round.

Your tournament for a viewing is done. Yeah. I mean, which is, which sucks. Is which why I get there's not as much match play on tour. Yeah. But let's talk about the ultimate match play. And that's the Rider Cup. Oh.

Which I really don't like how good your record is there. You played in four of them. You won three. He's won three. You have to think about it. Oh, what do you want? Sorry, what was the question? I just do.

I would really not know that you won through. Yeah, he did. Yeah, Lost Valhalla. He knows. He does pretend like he don't. Oakland Hills, K Club, Paris, and then Lost Valhalla. Yeah, Los Valhalla. 04 was my first, Oakland Hills.

Yeah, let's talk about the Ryder Cup. I mean, obviously it's an incredible event that the whole world watches. What is it like on that first tee? later on I want to know what more the celebrations are like can you swear on this show yes you can it's the only place

I've truly been shitting myself yeah so I mean first tea did it start the night before yes yeah did it start the night before or was it

like we asked John Rom like when he played Tiger in Paris in the final like what was that night like he's like I actually slept great it's when I woke up the next morning yeah I started first T's like

I literally just wanted to get it moving yeah so Oakland Hills was my first Langer was the captain. I didn't play Friday. He got all the rookies down. I think Luke was the only rookie to play on Friday because he was playing an amazing golf leading up to it. So I was going to play the following day on Saturday with David Howe in the morning.

Best Bowl. And he made sure that we all went to the first tee on Friday to absorb the atmosphere, which just probably made, which was great, but almost made it worse because now he got to wait. You got to wait and think. And that was, who do we play? Furican? Oh, maybe Zach Johnson or something like that.

Howler and I, we ended up winning our match, but to get back to the first T, everybody missed the fairway, and then I'm standing up there, and it was the most poorly struck driver I've ever hit, but it went dead straight, like 2.30. Perfect. Straight down the middle. Off and rolling, and that's, it's the only time I've worried about making contact with a golf ball is the first tee at the right of cup.

It says the same thing. And you played in the biggest, you know, every major, everything you've won, you've everything you can do and everyone to a man is like that first tea is it's like the barbe comes down here and there's like just get this yes forward I'll see it off of this tea and tea high not too high in case you do a Webb Simpson and Sky it but it's like um yeah you're worried about I mean which which if we went down to small like you imagine the smaller heads back in the days of the persim in the woods and like watching my gosh in Paris in 2018 like everybody sent iron off that first one I'm like this would be a full panic for me like I need driver

biggest head possible that's what I need I mean, there's fewest people. There's no way I could hit a, I mean, I don't carry a three-armed, but like these guys are getting three-armed. It was three-on, four, nine, five, I depend on the wind, yeah. No, thank you. I don't like that. I need driver.

First T, they should make everyone tee off with Percimmon going forward. Just one shot just to see what happened. I was hitting Pissom in last week, players. How'd that go? Todd Dempsey. Oh, yeah, I know, Todd. Yeah, he's got, um, I guess blanking on his. I'll look it up.

He's got all the old school stuff, but you were hitting it? How far are you hitting it with the persimmon? So I got up to 172 ball speed. That's still shipping it. That's with today's golf ball on Persimmon. Yeah, but still with Missin Wood, that's crazy. So how far was that going then? I don't know.

No idea. That's wild. The missets were insane, though, I'm sure. Grain golf. Grain? Yeah. That was the name of what you were hitting? Yeah.

So basically what he's doing is, Persimmon Woods, we'll get back to what we were talking about, but Persimmon Wood with a titanium insert so you can use the modern golf ball and get the feel and the distance. everything. Deschambeau hit it. I'll give Deschambeau credit because yeah, he's goofy. But I've got to overt over. So Adam Scott was behind me. I said, Scotty got to hit this. I know Scottie loves that kind of stuff and course beautiful swing as he's gotten. Hitting a beautiful shape. Deschambeau hit it and he's going at it full tilt. He got up to 180 ball speed, which is

unbelievable with a basically. It's a steel shaft, persimmon head, detain him in. So that's ridiculous. But he was, he had enough awareness to slow it back down to like one, 70. to 175 ball speed and suddenly got a nice tight little flight again with it. So you got to get, you know, the guy's got skills. I mean, his goofy as all get out, but he's got skills. I'm surprised he could hit it without it being built to his, oh, I guess with the woods, it would be less, but like his irons are like six degrees upright or whatever they are. But that's the thing.

He's got, he's still got the touch. Oh, he can go. Yeah. He can go. So what was a question? We were talking about size of heads or something? The Rider Cup. We were talking about Rider Cup.

We're talking about Rider Cup. You want to hit the driver off the first tee. We all know, I mean, your best shot arguably in the Rider Cup was your hole in one. 4-1, 14th hole K Club, 2006. Yeah, we don't want to talk about that. I want to know what the worst shot you hit in your Ryder Cup history was. Yeah, give me something bad. Worst shot.

Oh. You got any real bad ones? There's got to be something bad. It's got to be. Do you have any shanks? I mean, like 100-inch chip, obviously stands out. We get Webb in here. We'll have six or seven.

There's a shank on number three, and then on number nine. Got to be something cold. I can't think of anything right now. You had a bad drive off one, but it went straight. Yeah. That was your worst contact. I hit it's shitty, but I'm still found the air. Yeah, I still hit it 275 right in the middle of the road.

Guys, I don't hit bad shots. Maybe it was a put. That's a nice thing when you swing it that good. There's been plenty of those. Bad puss out. I got a real question for you. I'm doing this for my country right now. So obviously the Europeans, you've had your way with the U.S.

up late in the Ryder Cup. I'm making Paul Casey captain of the U.S. Rider Cup team for this next coming event whenever it might be. What do you do differently that we aren't doing right now? What's the secret? I'm not going to tell you. With it. No one, this is off record.

Turn the mics off. This is just between you and me right now, okay? Between the two of us. Firstly, I would, I would, I would, I would, the talent that you have, what an opportunity that is. Okay. I mean, it's so cool. Right, yeah.

Like, you got so many great players. Yeah, a lot. I mean, and that's what part of it. That's what brings us, makes us rise up to the challenge. I mean, you know, you look at who we played against in Paris in 2018. Your team was stacked. Yeah. It was awesome to be on the European team playing against you guys

because we so desperately wanted to beat you because you're stacked. So an opportunity to captain a team like that? I mean, I'll never get it. I won't say, though, going into that Ryder Cup, I thought y'all were such heavy favorites because of that golf course. Yes. It was so bad. They did a great job.

They could not rain it in. So I teed off on, there's little courtesy that happens and various leading up to it and during matches. So on whatever day we start practicing, what, Tuesday or something like, Tuesday or Wednesday, our first round out there. It's courteous. We let the Americans have the first tea at Paris. Your visitors, your guests, you have the first tea as the practice round starts. So we go to the 10th.

So we tee off on 10th. It's like a four-iron or something. It's an awful little fair way to hit. I mean, and you're strangely nervous because you've got already a couple of thousand European fans who are expecting amazing things from you who are standing there already singing songs. I blocked it with my forearms because there's water on the left, so of course it's what I do. Lost the golf ball. So I get down there, drop one in the fair way. This isn't going good.

I step onto an 11. 11's a par three. I hit one in the water. It's not going good. So I get Johnny to throw another golf ball over to me. I hit that one in the water. So I've played two holes and lost three golf balls. So Paul, you're not playing the first day.

Got that. All right. So we're going to need you to cheer. With Beyond standing next to me. It's not a great start, is it? I love that. Do you think part of it, like you mentioned how talented the U.S. team was, especially like in 2018, you're looking at that roster, like, wow, that's a lot of good players.

Europe has the exact same thing, too. You guys have a lot of good players, too. But do you feel, is part of what helps you guys, do you feel like the underdog? Is that like a chip on your shoulder? Like, even though you've won so many more than we have in recent memory, do you guys still feel like underdogs? Hmm. I feel like at this point, you've got to be like. I can't give away secrets, can I?

But we're really good at, we're good at retaining, let's say we don't talk about what we talk about. That's smart. Secret of ninth green at nine. There is, and, uh, look, Paris, did we feel like we were going to win? Um, as the week went on, yes, obviously, it, it, it momentous. Once you were up, seven points you thought we might have a chance. So, um, but we, we, yeah, do we, does that, I don't know what we necessarily say, but in our minds, we're thinking that. We're looking at your world ranking going, wow, it's here and ours is,

Our average is there. Why am I still carry my glasses. I either wear these or put them down. Yeah, put those on. Is that better? There you go. Professor Casey. Mr. Casey.

Here we go. So your world rankings here and ours is there. So, of course, on paper, you guys are favorites. And we say that to ourselves, even though deep down, we think we can, of course we think we can beat you. If we don't think we can beat you, we shouldn't be there. There's nothing wrong to think that. Of course you think you can beat us.

You beat us most of the time. And maybe that narrative leaks out every now and then. Americans are favorites. And of course, that helps. Does it not? I mean, you always want to be the guy who's just pressures off, even though the pressure was fully on us. But remember, you had the Ryder Cup. You'd wanted it in Hazeltine comfortably. So we were, yeah, we played every angle we could. By the way, Thomas Bjorn's tattoo is epic. Have you seen it? No, but I kind of want to weirdly. You know he's got a tattoo on his ass? No, I do know. And the greatest thing about it?

They had a deal. He's got the winning score on his... On his ass? Yes. Oh, that was part of the deal. If they won, he had to get a tattoo on his ass. Have you seen it? Not in person.

Have you touched it? Don't do it right now with Corona. Wait until Corona's over and then you can rub all over it. Do you remember Alex Noren making that put on 18 against Ashainbo? Yeah, I do. There's two reasons for the celebration being as big as it was. So our narrative on Saturday night was, you know, we still got to take care of business. There have been miracles from the European and American angle. I'm trying to think,

what, like Brookline, and I'll see Medina. So a lot can happen. And we knew we're in a comfortable position. Well, we're in a strong position, but not a comfortable position. And the narrative that evening was Thomas is like, just remember guys, he goes, I've promised to get a tattoo of the winning score on my ass, which there's a lot of room there, by the way, if and when you guys went. So we're like, so there's, that's basically all he said in his, in his, in his, um, captain's speech for that evening. It's all he had to say. And we had such strong leaders in that room that it just, momentum builds in that room. It's awesome. And so that was a common theme in the back of our heads. Come on, let's make this, let's make this number, that first number as large

as we possibly can. So my match with Brooks, I'd have to go back and look through it. My match with Brooks, singles match was an awesome match. And I love Brooks. And I got so much respect for him. And it was a great match that we played. played in perfect spirit, great golf, and we shook hands on 18, and we tied our match for a half point. And I think it might be the only half point that had happened to that point of the Ryder Cup in Paris. So knowing that, Alex Noron comes down 18, and if he misses that putt on 18 against Deschambeau, it ends up being, that's another half point, and then the scores are, we still win, but the scores are different. He holds that monster putt, that what, 35, 40 foot

up across that, which meant that it ended up being a half point, which means there's extra ink on Thomas's ass because of Alex Norrin's part, which is the best thing. Well, obviously, Slees and I, we want to turn this thing around at some point. We'd like, I mean, we like you, but we like the Americans to make it. For the people. So we've been, you know, lobbying for this, and we think it could really be a detriment to y'all, but Slees and I are trying to get to be a part of the American team. You too?

Stricker. Yeah. We're working on Stricker. Of course. Phil in the future. But we just need to be like team morale leaders. We need to be in the locker room getting these guys pumped up or maybe even chirping at you boys a little bit.

I think it'd be a problem. I'll get the entire U.S. team's face down on my ass. If you've got to rely on you two for team morale, we're really just, yeah. We've got to get an ass tattoo on the line. Obviously, that's how you get the boys fired up. That's the secret sauce right there. We're not getting in the ass. And for those who don't believe, it's on social media.

Yeah, we're going to look at that. Yeah, we'll definitely check that. You might want eye bleach after you've seen it. I want to know more about what. goes on. So you guys win the Rider Cup. You've been a part of three of these big parties now where you're on the victorious side. Oh, don't worry. Valhalla was just as big a party. So, okay, this is perfect. Because this is what I want to hear about. So, like, give me the night after you guys win a rider cup. Whatever year it was, pick one or pick the most fun one. What do those look like? And I've been

told it's customary for the other team, like losing side, they still come in and participate in all this stuff. Is that true? Yeah, I mean, one of the ones that Ireland and K-Club 2006, I remember remember we were in separate wings of that amazing hotel at the K Club. And I don't know who started. I think it was Westwood. David Howe was part of it. I went over. We ended up, it was the mission.

We need to go find the Americans in a good spirit. Right, okay. And we ended up storming their team room. And it ended up, I think we might have broken their ping pong table. I know that certainly happened. That certainly happened about it. That broke their hearts and their ping pong. That wasn't a good scene.

We'll skip that one. But that ended up in 2006 singing karaoke. And everybody sang karaoke that night. From both sides. In the American team room, David Hale kicked it off with Coco Cabana. Jim Furek Rapped 50 Cent. It's your birthday or whatever. Which was amazing.

I wish we'd had that on. Furek wrapping would be. Furek wrapping, hat backwards. That's real. Just like he was holding a put for $10 million of the FedEx Cup, hat backwards, serious. He was amazing. The only person who failed, not because of not trying, he just, the words didn't come out was Vaughn Taylor. He got stage fright. Yeah, he's a little shy. He's a little shy. But he stood up there and he's trying to and everyone's willing to him on. He just

couldn't do it. That's hilarious. It's, um, and that's the great thing. That's what you don't see is there's everybody just. It's not like sour grapes or we're too devastated. It's like at the of this thing you come through like hey no there might be there might be one or two guys that maybe got into it during the week and they don't really want to talk to each other for a week or two or a month or whatever because it got a little fiery on the golf course but it doesn't that's like one or two like the you know let's say most of the guys you know 22 players out of the 24 like yeah just rums around each other drinking um yeah and it's which is which is what it's all about yeah that's awesome yeah that's sweet i just want to be there for the party i don't really care

Yeah, we're just flying for that. Which is why I hope it happens this year. Yeah. Because it would be a good party. I mean, remember in 2004, we went across the street into some Irish bar and the police were worried, like genuinely worried for our safety. There we are in Detroit. Yeah.

Yeah. Eight mile. They might not care so much about that. I don't know where we're staying. It just didn't seem dangerous to me, but we're Westwood and various other guys standing on the bar and it's Irish standing on the bar in the Irish bar with the entire population of the bar. bar chanted.

Who's the biggest partiers on the European? Who goes the hardest in these things from the European side? Darren Clark was always the guy who would, it would, that session would go quite long. And I admire him for that. Yeah, it's a hell of an ability. That 04 getting off the plane back in London after flying back. I mean, I don't know how many hours later, but he was still on it. It was impressive.

Well, that's what he said after he won the Open Championship. Like, he did his press conference the next morning. He's like, I haven't been to bed yet. No, and I, I, I, yeah. And I, yeah. and respect for that. And it's interesting, like, Monty would never really party. Monty put so much.

And everybody's different. Also not surprised. Not that Darren is not putting as much energy. He's putting just as much energy. We just do it differently. Monty put so much energy and his, his MO was he would just crash. He would literally go, you wouldn't see him. He'd have a glass of champagne or a pint of Guinness or something.

He'd disappear or scotch. And that was it. Gone. Just not his kind of, or just not his MO. Whereas Clarkie would make. up for it. Yeah. Yeah, I'm with Clarkie on this one. If I ever was good enough to win anything, I'd be on Clarkie side. In theory. But one of the guys you've, I would say, you're fortunate to be in his era, but slash unfortunate because you probably would have a lot more wins. Yeah,

this guy, Tiger Woods. No, but you got to remember. So yes and no. And like, people have always said that. Like, I'd love a lot more than three wins on this tour. I got more on that tour. That tour, that little tour. But there was a lot. And people got to why you haven't won very much? And you got, not that this is an excuse, but to put it in perspective, when I was playing the last four years or so,

I focused on the PGA tour predominantly. But leading up to that, I would play the majors, the WGCs, the players, Memorial, Bay Hill. I'm trying to think of what else. And I'm like,

what chances did I have? He also played those. Correct. So you never had a chance that really any of them. And guys who could really say this way more than I ever could, obviously, Phil. I mean, if you took Tiger Outerick, how many wins would Phil have? Oh, my goodness.

But Ernie and Retief and Sergio and Vijay and, I mean, trying to think of Furic. I mean, that's what it was. Like, Vijay won nine times that one year when kind of in the middle of Tiger's dominance, which was unbelievable. But, like, people... So to me, I am happy and proud. to have played in in this era. And he's helped everybody and he's made me money and everybody money. So to be honest, it's a genuine thank you to Tiger.

And I think I've said that once or twice. I probably need to do it again. Like actually just pull him aside and look him in the eye and go, thank you. Because I mean that. Because it's been really cool. I mean, sure, it's been frustrating. Yeah, for sure. But it's genuinely cool to play in that era.

And he's helped everybody. He's helped the whole industry. He's helped all of us. I mean, would we be sitting here? I mean, I don't know. Well, we probably would be. I don't think you probably would be. You might have more wins, but you might have less money without that, you know?

100%. You agree. Yeah. But give us like, I mean, people talk about it all the time, but I don't think, you got to see it up close and personal and go against him. How good was he? I mean, still, obviously great, but back then. Different gravy. And these guys don't know how good.

And I look at Rory and Dustin and JT and these guys and Spieth with his putting and these guys who are just for, Brooks, I'm missing names, but unbelievable golfers. And I, you know, and like who's the best right now? You know, they all do it slightly differently. Rory certainly with his style and the way he does it when he's in full flow. It's a thing of beauty. But Tiger was different. There was just something about that.

It was like, it was like he believed and he was like creation. I mean, it sounds weird, but I think, You know, there's a guy that the ball's heading towards the trees, and he fully expected it to bounce out in the fairway, and it did. And it was like, and the put at Torrey Pines that, I mean, you couldn't hold any putts at Torrey Pines that year when he got into playoff with Rocco. And how did that thing go in? What was the one at Valhalla in the dark?

I mean, there was just stuff that happened. It was like, how does that happen? It was amazing. He made things happen. He made things happen. Give us one of your, I mean, you played with him several times, obviously. Give us your favorite maybe shot or memory of playing alongside him. I was just thinking, like I remember, I mean, I played against him in 04 at the Riter Cup.

I got beaten by him. That's pretty cool to play against Tiger and a Riteer Cup in a singles. It was great experience. A weird one that people wouldn't have seen probably, but there was an incident on the 13th tier at Augusta National in the Masters one year, and I think it was playing with. Tiger was in the grill. I want to say it was Aaron Badley was the third and we're on the 13th T

and he loads up and he's in full load top of the back swing on his way down and a bird, one or two birds flew overhead and the shadow there's footage of it somewhere the shadow passes through kind of the golf ball and his stance the line just the shadow

and distracts him and he stops and so he's literally on full I had to explain it He's basically, he's on the way down. That's it. It's off, it goes. And he manages to stop before he gets to the golf ball. It was the most unbelievable.

I mean, one, to have the awareness of the speed of the shadow to make the decision, oh, shit, I don't want to hit this. I want to stop. And then have the physical capabilities of stopping it. I mean, what, I don't know. I mean, and he stopped, and I was jaw wide open, so it was bads. And I'm like, I've seen some cool stuff, but that's one of the coolest things I've ever seen. And he's like, oh, yeah, yeah.

He goes, thanks, my back's killing. No kidding. No kidding. It'd hurt you back. Stop it. Go from 123 to zero. He was going to hurt. He did that all the time, too.

It was like someone would take a picture in the back and it would pull off. I was like how. Yeah. And I was thought it was like he was premeditated like he knew was going to stop. Me too. This, I saw it. I saw it. Yeah.

So it was all, that's real. That's real. And I thought the same thing too. I was like, oh, dude, he was going to stop no matter what. Stuff's real. And then I know there's others because we played a bunch of stuff together, which was really cool. Have you noticed him?

it seems like since he came back from all the injuries where it looked like you might never play again and the personal stuff it seems like we're seeing a new tiger kind of more open like he's taken Justin Thomas almost like under his wing it seems like he's more engaging with the media and the fans and things do you see like a new tiger I guess since he's since he's made this comeback then it was maybe back in 2000 where he's like he walked in and it was more or less like I'm here to kill every single one yeah I don't is it is it new it's always been in there isn't it the guy doesn't just change it's just what he's willing to share or put out and he's just at a different stage or position or um yeah like i get it because i mean i've in a very different um in a very different position

but i've had success and then lost form and struggled and lost confidence and divorce and injury and things where i've kind of really sucked at this game and then when you get it back, you're like, are way more appreciative and thankful for where I'm currently at. And it gives you a whole different kind of outlook. And so there's no question. It's just a, I guess, it's just maturity, isn't it? It's just life just kind of, you're just evolving and changing. But he's, he's always been in there. So yeah, I mean, look, you'd give everybody that that stare, wouldn't he? Walk in and, oh my God, he's going to crush everybody today again. It's worrying that he's willing to share that stuff because the guy's getting the information are going to be so good.

It's true. Good point. So it's good for JT and those guys. But the nice thing is it's always, and that's the great thing about, I think, sport, but especially our sport, people are so willing to share. You know, I've picked up the phone and called Mr. Nicholas and asked him questions. And he's so forthcoming with answering those questions and information. And, you know, I've not really ever picked up the phone and called Tiger. if I did, go, well, what do you want it here?

Like, yeah. So we'll all do it. So, yeah, why not? All right, let's get into a little something different here. So it's well known that you missed some time several years ago with a little shoulder injury. Yes. Okay. People might not know exactly how it happened.

Wasn't as exciting as you think. Oh, I've heard from a very good source. The story that people know isn't quite 100% true. I know what people think they know. They heard you heard of snowboarding, which most people, I think, think you were going over all these moguls, doing all these... On the half of... Yeah. I was...

So the truth of the story is I was out in Vail. I was with an instructor. We were heading out for the day, and I was... As you do kind of... You see the snowboarders, and I can ski as well, but this particular day, I was snowboarding. And I skateboarded as a kid. God, past is coming back. And if you see the snowboarders trying to paddle their way to the lift...

with one foot out and I'm regular so left foot forward I had my right foot out and I was uh the right foot wasn't in the bindings um and I just caught an edge on some ice it was a pretty acute slope and my right foot slid off the the board and I carved out of it and technically never hit the ground but as I carved out and I trail I dragged my right arm across the slope to balance myself so I didn't look like a complete idiot. I pulled my arm out of his socket. It was as simple as that. Well, your good friend, Peter Costas, is the one who shared this with me. He's like, don't let him lie to you. He fell off the lift. No, it's not true. Can you confirm or deny. It was a lift injury. No. It was not a lift instance. You need to talk to Peter right now.

He's right now. Can't trust my sources. This is why we bring it to you to ask. I got shouted out by Mountain Rescue because we, the instructor and I, we took the lift down because we were literally only 50, 100 yards from the lift. So we took the lift down and got shouted at by Mountain Rescue because they want to come pick me up and stick me in that little stretcher and snowmobile down which is like awful it was great though I went down to the hospital and they x-rayed it and they popped it back into it socket and it was the most excruciating pain I've ever felt and I've done some dumb stuff but when it was out of its socket I went quiet which is always a sign it's bad and when it went back in it was the it was the most glorious thing

ever and I thought it was dangling there and they popped it back in and I thought that was it Nobody will know. I'll just, I'll be right. I'll be right in a week. I'm good. Yeah. Just a little sore, a little tender? Six months later. Are you still doing much? No, I've been banned. Are you? Are you banned? Who's banned you? Nike.

Oh, Nike doesn't allow that. I love Nike. When I signed my first Nike contract in 2004, I think, something like that. I should know these things. End of 2004. My contract was probably about one or two pages. It's brilliant. And then everything that's ever happened in the world, you know, another few. pages get added every single year. So I've, I've added a few pages to my contract myself, because now I've got the, uh, the claws in there, no extreme sports. Not allowed to participate anything extreme. Because another one of your big hobbies, your big cyclist, right? Is that

technically? Yeah, I was now, is that extreme? Well, I was, it depends how you do it, doesn't it? Anything can be extreme. Yeah. I mean, we could play extreme golf, um, extreme tidly winks. I don't know. Um, you have my attention. Go on, elaborate. But I, you're still cycling though, right? I was, I was, nobody's listened to this, are they? No. No, I was mountain biking yesterday. Okay, there you go.

Yeah. I thought you were strictly street guys. I was social distancing yesterday. Oh, see, you're taking care of yourself, dude. Should you get a bonus? Was I extreme yesterday? No, I wasn't. I was very well behaved.

So that's now in my contract. So if I injure myself, and look, our contracts are predominantly performance-based. So if I play well, I make board rank of points, then I'm compensated. So when I'm not playing, I'm not making money. Not like people think. It's just same as basically winnings. I'm not currently winning anything.

And don't, there's not getting back in the coronavirus thing, but there's a lot more people in a worse situation. So do not, I'm not, I'm not. Right, right. We're not. Yeah, and I'm not, you know. But, yeah, so they basically have written it in there. So if I injure myself

doing something doth, they basically can. So it's kind of operate at your own risk. at this point. Correct. But you're no longer snowboarding, but you are cycling. Aren't you normally a street guy on the bike? I was a mountain bike guy first and foremost. I was a BMX guy first and foremost.

Oh, really? Yeah. Used to go to Black Mountain up the road here. People would know where that is. And get after it? Yeah, on the beer lake. Really? No, badly, very badly.

But then it was mountain bikes, and then we'd go to Whistler during the summer. And people who are into mountain biking, we'll know people like G. Atherton, former World Cup downhill racer. Steve Pete, another world champion. This is a foreign language. This is a foreign language. Those are people I know. I've ridden with Steve. We took Steve up to Whistler one year. He took us up really because that's a whole other level. What would that be like? That would be like, that would be like, put it in golfing terms. Me riding bikes with Steve Pete at Whistler, downhill bikes. That would be like a like a Royale. Macquarie, Brooks Copper, Dustin Johnson being Steve Pete, and me being like Trent

Rathburn. Oh, Trent. Shout out Trent. I love that. Actually, not even that good. Maybe like Trent's chipping. Chipping. That's how I would be.

When I was riding mountain bikes with those guys. Yeah, I got friends up. So that's why I would do. So road bikes became, I thought the road bike thing would be good because it's less extreme. So I've done that more the last few years and people have seen me doing that in Italy and places like that getting out. But the car, you know, cars scare me. I like cars.

Your big car. Yeah, I like car guys, but car scare me. Cars scare me, cars and bikes don't mix well. Yeah, yeah. You like anything where you go super, what's the fast you've ever gone on a street bike? Or on a bike. On a tour de France bike. Oh, I'd be in the miles an hour?

Yeah. Oh, I get scary. Miles and hour like probably 50s. Oh, my God. Which is really way too fast. That's, that's, I feel like that takes it to the extreme level. Yeah, that's in Europe. You get a lot of the big climbs in Europe.

And it's dangerous, Paul. You know, big, big climb. when the descents are like 15, you know, 10 mile long descent kind of stuff, once you've just climbed a 10 mile long mountain kind of thing, you know, a few thousand feet and then you've got to come down the other side. 50 is moving. 50 is moving. But remember, Tour de France guys will do like, I want to say they'll do like 60 or, I mean,

close to probably 70 if they're really hauling. They're really hauling. But they're pros too. And be like just a little pebble on the, I would think like going at that speed is a problem. It's sketchy. And look, and people have died doing it. It's dangerous. Nike. But it's not extreme.

So what you're saying is you're home on the couch a lot. Got it. That's good. I'm not on a, I'm not on a exercise bike. Peloton, you big Peloton guy? I was, I was opposed to that because the tour have the tour have the amazing facility. We got that workout trailer. And when they reek, they deck this thing. They got a new one about a year ago and they got, we need to get some bikes in there. I was like, just get a spin bike. You know, guys like the spin bike. And they put two Peloton bikes in there. I was like, oh, really?

And then the next thing, you know, you go in there every day and there's like a queue of about, there's two, two Peloton bikes. There's like a line of about three, four guys waiting to get on the Peloton bike. And guys are like, you know, who you got? You got, you know, Amy or Abby or it is. I got a leash it. So I won't give a list of guys, but there's a regular crew. So I actually, I quite like the Peloton thing.

Oh, I thought you'd be anti because you're like a purist. No, no, I'm not anti. There's very few things I'm anti. Okay. Well, you might be in this next segment because next is our segment we do with every guest called Emergency 9. Nine questions.

Some are the same, some are different, but you ready? Do I have any choice? He looks like he's ready. All right, Sleez, you want to start it off? Sure, but this is when we ask everyone. I'm interested, you're a well-thought-out individual, so I want to see what you say here.

What actor would play you in a movie based on your life? You asked me this at the range at Riviera. That was for a different show. That was for a different show. That was for serious action. PGA Tour Radio. Yeah. Okay, sorry, let's start again.

This one matters. I'll give you the same answer. Matt Damon. Well, that was your answer. Yeah, it's actually... So we were going over this last night, and he had Hugh Grant written down. I was like, he said Matt Damon first of. No, but Hugh Grant is me for him.

Oh, that's who you think. Yeah. By the way, have you seen the gentleman? I haven't seen a ton of Hugh Grant films. The latest one. Is it a rom-com? The gentleman. I'm assuming it's a rom-com.

How about the one on Netflix? No. No, it's Matthew McConaughey's in it. It's like an English gangster movie. The Irishman No Not the Irish Hugh Grant can never be

In the Irishman I don't think he's talking about Hugh Grant Yeah the gentleman Yeah It's called the gentleman Never heard of it A gentleman

Not a romcom It's um There's some choice language So I'm not some Just in case people don't like him It's fine It's fine on the show It's very unhue like

It's very I thought it was one of the best movies I've seen And I know Hugh We remember We remember the same golf club back in the UK Good dude Yeah I like Hugh Yeah he's he's different

But he's I like Hugh Yeah Thank you. I like you too. Which major would you most like to win? The Open. Rankum. The Open and then I'd probably go the Open. U.S. Open Masters.

Interesting. Just because, and then PGA. Just because romantically the Masters in the Green Jacket, but the Open, my national championship, the U.S. Open, your national championship is just a national championship. So romantically, yeah, I love a green jacket and you get to go every year and this. And it's the, without question, that's kind of cool. Which one, which major suits your game the best, do you think?

The Masters. The Masters? Yeah, you've had some good runs there. Love the course. I love so much about it. Yeah, a lot of friends who are members there. And it's just, it's the one place, it's the one place where you stand on the T and you, you know, our sport is not necessarily sexy. but it's the one place you stand on the tea

and you feel like a rock star because there are none of these phones, for those of you are listening, not watching, there are no phones and when you stand on any tea on that property, all eyes are on you. And I love that.

And the patrons, the crowd are so appreciative. They know, they've seen the shots through the years, they know the level of difficulty, everything about it. You feel special as a player. And I think, That's really cool. Yeah, it's so unique.

Will there be a master's played in 2020? I hope so. That's not what I asked. It's a yes or a no. Oh. I'm going with, uh, yes. Okay, good. I like that.

I like that answer. Okay, number three. That's the right answer. Favorite American athlete, not named Tiger Woods. Hopefully once... Nice in Tiger would be up there. Yeah, yeah, Tiger would be up there. Yeah, um...

Yeah, it could be a big game guy. Yeah. be an ex-game guy, couldn't it? Like a Tony Hawk or something. I remember when he watched, the flying tomato, no. Although amazing, tomato tomatoes. I remember when Tony Hawk did the 900.

I watched that just glued to the TV. That's a good question. I don't know who it would be. I was, you know, as a kid, it was always like the athletics, watching the Carl Lewis's and stuff, kind of do their thing. Oh, like Olympic sports. Olympic sports.

And then it was football. So it was, you know, you know, Montana and people like that. Oh, a little throwback. Yeah. Perfect. A little joy, Montana. Yeah, I got to meet him once.

Very cool. Yeah, so I don't know. Can we, let's come back to that. What's the next one? Favorite, think, on that. Favorite quarantined activity other than cycling. Yeah, you've got to be indoors for this. I noticed Netflix streaming's like slowed down.

Have you noticed that? They slowed in Europe. Yeah. Because everyone on planets on it. Yeah. Yeah. I just finished Peaky Blinders the last season because I hadn't watched last one so I just finished that two days ago. Okay so not place. Now watching Messiah.

I haven't seen that. No, neither have I but the wife suggested it. Um, about three episodes in. Don't spoil it. Um, other than that, I got kids, remember. So quarantine, so, um, playing football or soccer, uh, with my little boy in the back garden. Perfect. Next one, soles. That's a good one. Um, your boy, Johnny Long Sox. Famous for his long socks. Yes. Favorite pair of his socks. Quite like his Rod. any danger field ones. Oh, okay. Legend.

Yeah, I would like those two. Sleys is big into the high socks. I noticed that. When I met your boy at Riviera, like we talked to, I had never met him before. I was like, I was like, identity. Are you a joke, John? If I tell what are you, mid-30s? Yeah.

You could be his son. I could be. I was like, uh, dad. We didn't do it with 21 or whatever that little. Actually, how are you, what are you 30 what? 35? Yeah, yeah, he would have been a little, you little, yeah. He could be physically.

He could be young. Physically, yes. Yeah. I think he was, there's a chance. But he's, but he's, that's the thing I love about Johnny is, he wears the high socks because the very first time he caddied. And he was a player. He played on so like mini tours in Africa and stuff like this.

And he knows how to play. He's a good, he's a good stick. Still is. I remember he was Luke Donald's caddy forever. He's way straighter than Luke, by the way, off the tea. Most are. And so when he came work for me, he. as soon as you know and I'm a Nike guy I said well you know first we've got the long socks

and the long socks came about because the very first time he caddied he got sunburned and so he had to cover up the sunburnt the second day he put on long socks he's never taken long socks off since uh probably sleeps and for all I know his shoe game is strong so I said what do you want to wear I'll get you whatever you want Nike product thinking running shoes this and that and he goes I want some some high tops I'm like what so we went that's what he wants so we went down like some we had some kairi irvings to start out and then we got into the jordan thing yeah and so now he's just a jordan one guy he wears ones all different they're awesome yeah it's got it and it's a solid collection and there's there's been some in there which he probably could have just if they've

been box fresh he could have been selling them on stock x by now but um easily but he rocks him it doesn't matter how muddy it is he's out there in his jordan ones well you're a big shoe guy as well yeah yeah not today no nikes no no i'm i'm a i'm a converse guy well i you're you know, I'm a Nike guy. Remember, you know, Nike own converse, so I can get away with it. Okay. Favorite shoe? Other than my Jack Purcells, I can't say that, can I?

Which is, I rock around. Favorite Nike shoe? Probably, you know, just either a dunk. I love a blazer, but like my foot doesn't fit in a blazer. Okay, so the dunk. How many do you have? Dunks? Probably 20 at home, not too many.

So no, no, no, no, no, no. No, no. I purge. I keep the really cool ones, and there was a time when Nike, were making shoes for us at major championships so we get shoes and they were doing air force ones i mean that if i love an air force one it's just not i should have won some today shouldn't i um invite me back okay um we'll talk about it yeah probably i mean what do you yeah they're a dunk but they're jordan's aren't they yeah yeah they're like a jordan one low one i like

the low one yeah they're very nice if i wear high tops but if i wear high tops i look ridiculous because i got really short legs that's the whole point of them though you just you just do it mine are skinny so I try to cover up as much of my leg as possible. How does Perez get away with it? It's not like he's a, you know. Because he doesn't care one. Yeah, that's why. That's part of the whole shtick.

You have a sweet pair you got when you won the vows bar. They made you a custom like 101. I've got two pairs of those. Yeah, yeah. Sweet, you ever wear them or they just. No, no, they're showpieces. A.F. On the Air Force ones. And they are kind of like, they're black and silver.

Yeah. And they're laser etched or laser engraved with all the different kind of things from each victory. The score and quotes from the week. Yeah, you don't wear those. Nike does cool stuff. No, no, really cool stuff. We get a lot of, there's a, like somebody on Instagram yesterday was like, you know, okay, we're all bored, as we all are. You know, how about you do a little MTV cribs kind of thing, walk around the house?

And I was like, yeah, I said, maybe we do one of the office. I'm quite, I'm quite private. Right. And I've got a cool house. It's no question. But, um, but I'm kind of, yeah, I wouldn't do the walkthrough of my kind of house. Yeah, come into my bedroom is a little much for the people. I have to tidy up a little bit knowing you, knowing the stuff you get to do.

All right. Next question, two-part question. One stereotype of people from Great Britain that isn't true and one that is true. We have bad teeth. Okay, yeah, that. You have beautiful teeth. Thank you. They have a beautiful grill, yeah.

They're natural? Put that one too bad. Those are your real teeth, huh? Those are my real teeth. That's impressive. That's good, though. No, you're helping squash that. Yeah, our health care and our dental practices.

are pretty strong. Okay. You know, we're not into aesthetics, but it's strong. Okay. Yeah. So that one's not true. It's not true. Which one do you say like, yeah, that's probably there for a reason?

We drink a lot. Okay. That's true. Well said. Perfect. Yeah. It could be a lot worse. Number eight.

We're very good at it. Yeah. I've seen it. Do you have any pre-round superstitions other than your warm-up being a certain amount of time? Because I know that. Oh, yeah. You have a weird. No, no, no, two espresso's every morning.

Two espresso. I travel. No matter what time. No matter what time. You're out there playing hopped up on two espresso. Yeah. I have a little coffee. I have a little coffee machine, which I travel with.

It doesn't go in the suitcase, but you know the guy that drives all the luggage around. Hulkko drives the luggage around. It stays with him. Get to the event, pull out the bag, and it sits in the hotel room. And if you ever have the hotel room next to me, you'll hear the kind of, it's not a big, but it's, you know, little pods going to. You know, most dudes are taking beta blockers and trying to come down. It's the, it's the Restredos. the little, there's the black colored pods, two of those, so separate timing.

Got my little espresso cups. Hit one. Wait a little bit, hit the other one. No, never three. Get the shakes, bad three. That's it. There's nothing really else. I mean, you know, I got the warm up and stretching, but it's, yeah.

And if I don't, I'm a cranky bastard. Okay. I'm a cranky bastard. Yeah. You obviously had your two espresso's before you came here. I did, I did. Another one when I arrived. I like the fact you've got one in here.

It's good. Of course. I like your offices. We're here to please our guests. We take care of our people. All right. Last one. Funniest member of the 2018 European Rider Cup team.

Funniest? Yeah. Who's the guy that's the cut up, the locker room guy that's keeping everybody light? There are different genres of humor in our team room. Okay. And we had a very strong WhatsApp group chat going on. Okay. and a lot of it had to be deleted for various reasons.

Stenson has an issue. He really does. I love him. He's got a dark sense of humor. That's who I would have done. Oh, goodness. It's rather scarring. Tommy is a whole other level. Tommy's wrong as well, Mr. Fleetwood.

He's such a nice little boy. Yeah, he seems like comes across. Oh, no, there's some issues there, really are. I like him even more. I think, and it's, it's kind of always comes back to him, and he's, but he's one of, he's a great mate of mine. Poulter is consistently one of the funny, the funny guys. Yeah, he's, and it's a good humor, because at least you can share some of it with other people. Tommy and Henrik, I'm not sure you can share some of that stuff.

I told him, but everybody, I said he gets such a bad rap. I said, Poulter was one of my favorite pairings when I was on tour. Like, I loved playing with him. He's so funny. And like, he's like, he's like, Look, we started with him. He's like Pat Perez. Yeah. He's consistent. You know what you're going to get. And that's why I love him.

Like, he doesn't change. He's got the heart of gold. I'll tell you a quick story about Poulter. We played it at Valspar a few years ago together. He didn't make a birdie the whole first day. And then he finally birdied number seven the second day. So 25 holes. And I kind of, I was keeping his card.

And I kind of gave him a little applause. We were both playing terrible. And I was like, do you want to do the honors of circling this? And F you, he circles it and then wrote, you can probably guess what he wrote underneath it. It was fantastic, though, but he's great. He's great. So we were, obviously, last one I played was, and anybody played was players.

So there was, it's always polter stories, and there's hundreds of them. But one of the ones that just made me chuckle was we were going down the ninth hole for people that know the ninth is a par five at Sawgrass. And a lot of guys, now we try to go for the green, but it was always used to lay up. And there he was, and the story I've heard, I wasn't there at the time, but the story I've heard, he and his caddy Terry, Terry's a very, very funny individual. and he's laid up and he's got 75 yards of something pitch into the green he gets over the ball and he's rustling around and wiggling and he's not comfortable and he backs off

he gets back into it he's wriggling around not comfortable and he backs off and terry's like terry drags a page you're right mate you know something up is there is a people moving or you know what is it and he gets back in there again and backs off again and terry's like pal you know what's happening mate and he goes um what is it because Terry can't figure out for life and what's going on. And Polter says, oh, tell. He goes, there's a scoreboard directly behind that green at that time, one of those big digital screens.

He goes, every time I get over the bloody ball, he goes, I look at that TV and it says, Ian Polter, from 75 to 100 yards, I'm 130th on tour. And it's catching his eye. And Terry's, all right, mate, mate, don't worry, just get back in there, get back in there, concentrate and hit it. So he gets back in there, wiggles around. blades it right for the back of the green and Terry's now in pieces on the floor he goes you're gonna be

130 first step exactly I love it well Paul man thank you so much for taking some time out of your day to come join us on golf subpar we have started giving our guests a little gift now as a little thank you and if producer Mark can bring that in because you know we as the cyclist you are we worry so much about your safety oh yeah so we got you a little keep the people by corn you can You can never be too safe. You have no idea. You can never be too safe. This will be on Monday.

My little boy, his bike's in service, but on Monday. This will be on my bike on Monday. Well, we hope you enjoy it. And thanks again for taking time out. Thank you, boys. I'm bored. So when can I come back? Anytime.

Tomorrow. Perfect. We'll run it back. All right. Thank you so much, Paul. And that was Europe's own. Paul Casey, give us a little inside look at the Rider Cup. Also, this man, the only.

the only European I know that doesn't have a favorite soccer team or football, as they call it over there. And also put to bed a little bit of a rumor that's been going around Colty. And the way he injured his shoulder back in the day, it turns out he did not fall off the lift. He did not injure himself coming off of the lift, at least. Yeah, I don't know. Did we buy it? Do we buy it? I got that info from a very good source.

Reliable. Peter Costas. Yeah. So I don't know. But Paul Casey, what a great guy. And I mean, what an absolute stud. I mean, he's played four rider cups. they've won three of them.

He's a guy that just gets it done. And who knows how many wins this guy would have had if Tiger Woods wouldn't have been as dominant as he was back in the day. Yeah, from a pure talent perspective, you played with him. We've both gotten a chance to play with him. Like, there's very little to be like, oh, here's where his deficiency.

Like, there's nothing that he's bad at. He, from all around, he is unbelievable. And you're right. Like, if he wasn't in the area that he was in, who knows what could have happened with Paul Casey. But he's really fun to chop it up with. Yeah, one of the most talented ball strikers I've ever seen. I mean, literally just his swing looks the same every single time.

Ball comes out of the middle of the face every time. It's awesome. And he's a great dude. Like, I think he gets a little bit of a bad rap, but I mean, he's a pleasure to be around. He's funny. And I really enjoy talking to him. Yeah, absolutely. He's one of those guys that, like, he could put the clubs away for a month and then pick up a five iron and go to the range and just flush it.

Yeah. Which I can't stand that. Just real talent. Just real talent. Yeah. Like, meanwhile, the rest of us are like, I got to hit 700 balls a day just to maintain. He's like, oh, I'll just quit for a month. And I'll come back and I'll be mint.

Well, Sleazy, that was a lot of fun. And the fun does not stop with Paul Casey. Next week, another big man coming in, a really big man. Actual, a large physical human being. Yeah, Tony Fienaut. We got another rider cup around the show. We'll get inside that U.S. locker room this time. We're going to find some secrets at some point.

Yeah, we're going to crack the code eventually. But I'm looking forward to that when he's a great dude and an absolute stud on the golf course. But until then, y'all stay healthy, and we'll talk to you on next week's golf subpar.