Subpar - Ray Whitney Interview: Caddying at the Olympics, his day with the Stanley Cup

Episode Date: September 14, 2021

On this week's episode of GOLF's Subpar, 2-time NHL All-Star Ray Whitney joins former PGA Tour pro Colt Knost and jicky jack legend Drew Stoltz for an exclusive interview. The "Wizard" talks caddying for Graham DeLaet at the 2016 Olympics, his day with the Stanley Cup after the Carolina Hurricanes victory, and how he managed to survive going head to head with Sleeze on skates.

Hello world. Welcome back to golf subpar, cult-nosed Drew Stoltz. Slees, the offseason for the PJ Tour is officially over after a one-week hiatus. Finally. I didn't know what to do with myself during that seven days without golf. There was some golf play, though, over in Europe, BMW Championship flagship event on the European Tour, huge event. And our guy, Billy Horstow got the job done over there. So a big win, and congratulations to Billy. Is there anyone who plays better in the history of golf the week after Ryder Cup picks are made?

And when he's on the bubble, by the way. That's true. I mean, dude, back when he won the FedEx Cup, that's why the rule got changed. So now they make the picks after the FedEx Cup. Then it happens this year. He's, you know, you could consider him a bubble guy. And then he's like, okay, I'll go across the pond play over there. Wins one of their biggest events.

Yes, he did. It was awesome. Awesome wedge on the 72nd hole. Hit it to about a foot tap in for the victory. So big shout out, Billy Horace. Kind of bittersweet, though, dude, because the rat, we're happy for Billy. Yeah. Great win.

The rat making a miraculous comeback. I feel like this is the year of the rat. I'm going to go ahead and dub 2022. I hope so. of the rap, but he was right there. He finishes the closing hole is two par fives in a row. Bogie par gets clipped by one. Do you see him out warming up for the playoff?

In case he was getting into the playoff. One-headed wedges, cell phone on the ear, just not worried about anything. Yeah, he's like, yeah, go ahead and push order on that thing. I'm going to make $600,000 at worst. Give me a new Lambo. Yeah, I need my back against the wall again. But I hope it's the ear of the wrath. That'd be awesome.

Bringing sexy back. All the way back. Let's do it. Man, Sleez, there was also some other golf played. I made a little trip out to Pine Valley. Our man, Greg Triis, owner of Whisbarock. was kind enough to take me and a few others out there, spent three days. You've played it.

This was my first time. What a place, and my God, is it hard. It is the best collection of 18 holes I've ever played. I've played everywhere, but a good amount of them. And from 1 through 18, it's one of those courses, like, sometimes you show up to these historic golf courses that you heard about, you read about and all this stuff, and you kind of expect every hole to be the best hole you've ever played.

You see 16 at Cyprus. Like, oh, there's going to be 17 more of those. And then you get done, you're like, that's a great golf court. But there's some hole, you know, there's not one, in my opinion, Not one hole you walk off at Pine Valley and you're like, ah, that was just okay. It's like every hole. If you had a group of guys, they played the whole course, said, what's your favorite hole? I bet you'd get a bunch of different answers.

It is. It was special. Three days of there. I don't feel very good about my golf game after leaving there. Yeah, how do you feel? Dude, it's a beast. I struggled with the first two days. I played really well the last day.

Shot 67, three under par. Had it four under early through eight. It was out rolling good. But, man, it was really, really cool to play. And ran into a special friend of ours who we're going to be seeing next week at the Ryder Cup. Seth Wah. I want me to give you a bit, said, give the Sleason Man a hello for me.

Yes, Seth Wah. Not sure he knows my real name, but I go by the Sleazy Man. I actually take that as a compliment, but we'll see him next week. That's another thing. You go up there, like, dude, you don't know who you're going to run into it.

And shocking, his hair looked very nice. Was it okay? Yeah. Yeah, Brando and him, he was giving Brandl around for his money. But got stopped by a lot of people, a lot of members up there. Dave Kelly, our buddy was like,

God, everyone stops you to talk about this podcast. Everybody loves subpar. Actually, shot the 67, wearing our birdie juice, our little friend right there. There he is. The tweets were, it was, obviously the only reason why I played well was because I had that shirt on. But there was another gentleman that stopped me.

And he goes, hey, Colt, I sent you a message on Instagram after the Bryce Mulder interview. Y'all were talking about The Onion. The girl he used to date, they called her The Onion. He goes, that's my cousin. That's unbelievable. I died. Hey, remember that trick? The Onion?

Yeah, dude, vaguely. Yeah, that's my cousin. I was dying. I was like, how random is this? The good news is, though, like the onion would not. first heard the nickname then i was like oh she makes you cry i thought there's going to be some crazy story behind it but it's because she's from a town in georgia i guess where they grow onion so it's actually not that bad but uh yeah dude you never know what a world at pine valley

which of all places like wouldn't expect it uh up there all that much but shout out to the onion yep it was that was great but that was so much fun thank you to everyone who comes up and says hi and that they love the podcast it's been really really cool for us that is a once like potentially once in a lifetime trip that golf course 10 plus yes what's your favorite course the world for me it's pine valley and then there's a huge drop off between the next one i agree and the only unfortunate thing is it rained really hard wednesday night and all day thursday so it played really really soft which was unfortunate but my god i would love to see that ball bouncing all over that place it'd be it is the hardest place i've ever played to make birdies there's not one like oh

this is the driveable or oh i reached this part five and two the par fives are like bogey holes he easily can bogey those holes the par fives typically the scoring holes you can you could play pretty good golf around there like a good player and not make a single birdie it happened to me Thursday. Shut out. You got to earn that thing. Made two on Friday and then five on Saturday. And the first four, first five holes are really hard.

Your day could be over before it starts out there. Shout out to our guy John Bracken from Whisper Rock as well. Made a little ace on number 10 the first day. Ooh, that's the one you want to do right there. That's a plaque in the office, all that stuff. They immediately bring out, like, they go get that flag and they dial it all up for you and they brought it out to them like on 13. Yeah, I'd be like making one at seven at Pebble or something.

And like, but it was good. If you ever get invited, don't turn it down. No, you go and say thank you. And how do I come back? But don't say that. Yes. Just imply that. All right.

Well, we got a lot to get to today. One week from today, we will be showing up at whistling straights for the Ryder Cup. And I cannot wait. I don't know if I'm going to be able to sleep this week. I'm so excited to get there. You and I have never been to a Rider Cup. And we're going to be out there getting amongst it. We're doing our serious XM show live from the driving range, Tuesday through Thursday.

We're going to be doing some coverage for them. And also, We'll be getting amongst it with the great people of Wisconsin at three sheeps. Trace, shape us. We will be there. I've never been more excited to be at a golf tournament. I geek out for the Ryder Cup. This is going back to a young kid.

This is the one I look forward to the most. I think the teams shook out about the way we expected. Maybe Scotty Schaeffler being a little bit of a surprise there. But Europe just announced their picks. Patrick Harrington went with Sergio Garcia. Not a surprise. Ian Polter, definitely not a surprise. Now the last one I feel like came down to Shane Lowry, Justin Rose.

He'd probably make an argument on both side. Justin Rose actually played some pretty good golf here lately. went with Shane Lowry, which, shockingly, like, I mean, he's a veteran, he's a major champion, his first Ryder Cup ever ever. So, I mean, they're getting a rookie, quote-unquote, but it's about the most veteran rookie you could ever have on your team. The big Irishman. I can't wait to see him going crazy out there. The man knows how to celebrate Whistling Straits, kind of looks like Ireland. Should feel right at home. Yeah, and supposedly we're supposed to get some wind up there. It could be a little bit cool.

This feels like a European kind of favored setup up there. Those guys are definitely used to play and your stuff. But if Shane Roller is celebrating, it better be in the team USA locker room afterwards because I know they kind of like to link up, which is also pretty cool when the thing gets done and both sides go celebrate with each other no matter what and have a good time. So hopefully he'll be celebrating wearing some red with whoever's with it. No question. We can be bought. We can be coerced to root for whoever. But pro USA, but yeah, the teams are set and now it's put up or shut up. Well, I cannot wait. Less than a week away, we will be there and we will be getting amongst it with our friends at golf.com at three

sheep's brewing company right outside whistling straits. We'll be there all week starting Wednesday, September 22nd through Sunday, September 26. Getting amongst it as Team USA looks to take down Team Europe. Exclusively on the golf.com pro shop, you can purchase VIP packages that include a free driver fitting, drink vouchers, custom gear, automatic entry into long drive and putting contest, raffles, and more. We hope to see you all there. We better see you all there because we're going to be getting amongst it at three sheep.

Yes, Chanting, red, white, and blue, face paint, the whole nine. We'll be doing our part to bring that cup back to the state. Let's get it up at the Ryder Cup. But first, we've got to get to our very special guest. my man, Ray Whitney. Former hockey player, the wizard. Great nickname, by the way. We're big on nicknames.

That's a great one. It's fitting. Very fitting. But man, who played 22 years in the NHL. And he's not the biggest guy on the planet, but the man could skate, went out. You took a little run at him on the ice. He took one of my best shots, and he's still ticking. Took props to him.

That just shows just what a competitor and what a gutty guy he is to stand out in front of a freight train, like the sleaze on skates. One of the most competitive people I've ever met. You know, we talk about it in the interview, how he battles the senior citizens at the gym, make sure he's doubling up what they're doing on the treadmill and everything. But everything he does. First of all, he's a great golfer. He's a plus one, two handicapped, can go low. But one of the most competitive dudes I've ever seen, wants to kill you and everything,

and I love him. Actually, caddy for me in my last PJ Tour event at the Phoenix Open was really special to share that with him. But we get into that and a whole lot more. So let's get to it. Here's Ray Whitney on Golf Subpar. All right. What a dude? What a dude we have with us here today.

22-year pro hockey vet, Stanley Cup champ, plus handicapped golfer, absorbed one of the most vicious hits in the history of hockey when I almost decapitated him a few months ago. Ray Whitney, the Wizard, how are we doing? I'm doing great sleaze. I'm still recovering from that big hit you throughout. I was going to see you off crutches. He's hearing one piece. I did good.

I didn't mean to do that to you, bro. I mean, to see that kind of force come out, it was scary. Yeah. Yeah. I'm healthy, though. Well, we're going to put that video back out now that we're doing this episode. But let's just recap that day a little bit because we had the sleaze never claims he's never been on skates, which after maybe I will put my head on any book you want. Well, that thing will burn from what I've been told.

Actually, I should stay away from that. I would just stay away from that. I would just stay away from that. But I would just say away from that. But what do you think? Does he have any future as a hockey player? He's got none as a hockey player. What do you mean by none?

I'm not sure we can find a league that's shitty enough for you to play in. Okay. Fair. But I will, I will say this, though. He did much better than I thought he was going to do it. That's why we're questioning whether he had. some practice prior. But anytime somebody gets on the ice that never skated, I'm anticipating they're going down at least two or three times. And to his credit, the slees got on there

and made it one full lap without falling over. And I thought for sure he was going to go ass over a tea kettle. And I was, I was banking on it, actually. The people in the stands were definitely everyone was wanting me to break my neck, by the way. I thought it was honestly the skating part. I was 100% convinced, like, this is no sweat. The skiing, I skied a ton growing up. That is a huge huge thing. But it was honestly harder than I thought it would be. My first few little, I started up pretty slow, but I was like, dude, I could go down. And I thought in my brain, I was like, no chance I go down on the skating part. The puck lifting was a different deal. You were careful around the nets, careful on the turns, which was smart because that's usually when people drop.

And like you said, he looked like he had done it before, but skiing makes a little bit of sense because if you get stuck somewhere in skiing and you have to basically skate your way out of it, it doesn't make sense on that aspect. But I didn't think you were that good of an athlete. Better chance you making the cut in a PGA tour event or sleighs flying one in the net from the blue line. I still think I could probably come closer to making a cut. We get you in an opposite field event. Get you in Puerto Rico. You'd be an animal in Puerto Rico.

By the way, the puck lifting thing, which I had no clue what to expect, other than I flicked one up in the locker room. And I was like, as soon as you have no stability on your feet, like I was trying more or less not to fall down on every time I tried to flick it. Yeah. I mean, we could have been there for, and I was getting worse as I got tired more and more tired. I could have been there, 2,000 pucks. We could have sat there for two days. I don't think you would have gotten it. You were creative, though.

I like the creativity that he did where he went down to his knee, flipped one on its side and tried to get in there and whip it in there. The knuckle puck. The knuckle puck he called it. So after 40 pucks, I don't know people who have heard the story, not 40 pucks, he says, finally he gives in. And thank God because I didn't want to watch 10 more. So they bet him another $100.

And I'll put 10 more. I'll put 10 more up on their side and you can knuckle puck it in there. He still couldn't knuckle puck it in there. I would have got the knuckle puck. I was running out. I was running on steam. It was hotter and shit. I've never sweated like that in my own.

Well, you didn't, you had three red bulls in you, too. And you were, I mean, you were sweating like a, oh, it was beautiful. It was fun to watch.

It was ridiculous. But the last part, I mean, our man, the wizard here doesn't even put any gear on. It's kind of like David, Simmson 10 cup when he goes to get the long seven iron, doesn't even take his jacket off,

warm up or anything. He's just like, nope, I'm good. And I took that personally. I came in, like, I,

I was standing there, the more I got it, dude, I was Googling the night before, no bullshit. I was like, oh, I was like, what if I, because I was planning maybe on, like, diving at your ankle. I was like, all he's got to do his move. But then I was like, exactly. So I was Google, I was like, can I get, like, could I break my neck or could I do something bad? I was Googling like hockey paralyzation

and shit, and I'd convince myself I could die. I was standing at you and I was like, the more I got in, I was like, this is a terrible fucking idea. Yeah, it was, uh, watching you come, like, okay, because what I did tell you before is, if you come straight at me, I'm going to have to just, I'll go right through the middle of you. Yeah, that'd be my only chance.

But then I saw how fast he was actually, and how well he was doing on his skates. I was like, shit, I should maybe put just some shoulder pads on a little bit or say that. Nothing. So I think, well, I'm just going to have to dig in here a little bit. So as he was coming, I turned sideways just so by the little leverage. And I was, I got to be honestly, I was going to hit you so hard if you came straight on. My only strategy, I contemplated 10 different things. My only thing I wasn't going to do was go right in the middle.

I was like, he will, he's going to be a brick shit house on the ice. And he's going to just put this shoulder right in my stern. The only thing I can't do is have a meme. They would clip it and make it. I was like, I can't be the one going backwards. So that's why I went for like, I'm going at the last second, maybe like hit you in the side, you know, try to just get you to go backwards a little bit. Is there any NHL player that you kind of maybe thought of when Sleaze was coming at you?

You're like, oh, boy, this is kind of like so-and-so running. No, I've had a couple trainers that weren't very good skaters that reminded me a little bit. There wasn't one, there wasn't one NHL player, no. I mean, the size of you look, I mean, you know, he had my sons, my sons, equipment on, which is kind of funny sleaze is quite a bit. Except the helmet. Except the helmet. So you look bigger out there than I thought you would.

I'm a unit. But, you know, I've seen much bigger coming at me a lot faster than that. In real life, I felt like I was going 100. I was like, dude, I'm going to kill him. I'm going so fast. And I saw the video. I was like, is this in slow-mo? It doesn't do it justice.

The video did not do it justice. Well, I guess the video was telling the truth is what it was. But it wasn't, I thought you were coming faster than that, too, to be honest with but then when we watch the video, I'm like, oh, man, he really wasn't moving. The camera takes off 10 miles of hours. Yeah. We all know this. As a hockey player, you know this.

It actually takes off 10 inches of my height too. Right. You're way big. You're 6'3. Yeah, you don't look that tall on that. I'm sneaky big. Well, let's get to know the wizard Ray Whitney a little better because we are going to put that video back out now.

It's a great video. It is. It was very, very well done. And it's a fun 10 minutes to watch. There's no doubt about it. But, you know, he puts on skates at 36 years old. When did you first lace up the skates? I was five years old back.

I grew up in a farming town in Western Canada. Not a farming town. I grew up on an acreage. And where I started skating, there was 200 people in this town, maybe 250 if the farmers were in for coffee. My dad ended up knowing people. So I got a lot of access to the ice whenever I needed. Plus, in Canada, everybody's got a dug out for the cattle. And that freezes over in the wintertime.

So you just shovel it off and go down and skate. So I've been on the ice since I was five. And then growing up in Western Canada, all winter you're on the ice all day long. and there's nothing else to do up there. It's cold, dark, and full of snow. Yeah, what's it? Sunlight for like two hours a day up there? Yeah, in the wintertime, you get up, go to school at 8.30, it'd be dark,

just getting light, and by the time you got out of school, got home by four, it was dark. It explains when you're such a dark individual. Yeah, yeah. It explains a lot. I like Bain. It explains why I live in the desert now. You know, I need some sunshine. Yeah.

And growing up in Canada like you have, and we've talked to some golfers are from Canada and all that stuff. Is it like every kid play, like hockey's one A. I'm going to play hockey until. I'm not good enough to play hockey anymore. And then I find golf or I find whatever. Does anyone opt to play something else? No, I think for the most part, it's probably 90% that put skates on at some point. Now, they may check out of the game quicker than others.

But, you know, golfing is becoming a bigger sport in Canada. As you can tell by some of the quality of players that we're starting to produce. But again, as the season is so short that, you know, you have to do something else. And generally, most hockey players who turn golfers can hit the ball a long way just because of the motion. baseball is not overly big. Again, just from the time of year. Curling is really fun to play. I don't know if you guys have ever curled.

Watched it. Have it play it. It's a fun sport. But again, that's not going to become a career for anybody. So if you don't play hockey in Canada, I'm not, you know, you might be. Yeah. Steve Nash is one of one. He's one of one. He lived out in British Columbia and Victoria, which is it doesn't snow much over there or at all.

And he's probably one of the bigger Canadians we have at six. three and that's not that. Yeah. What age did you know, like, okay, I'm pretty good at this? In arrogance, I got to be honest with you in a small town. No, five. I only scored one goal my first year and I was against the mothers. So the kids got to play the mothers.

And the mothers, they knew I was the only kid who hadn't scored a goal. So the mothers parted like the Red Sea and one of the ladies, one of the mothers opened her spread her legs for me and I threw it at the five hole. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Family show, right, bro. I love. I love saying that. So I scored one, but you know what?

I always thought it was pretty good, but what I always had people tell me all, you know, all the way through junior, even a pro, is that I was too small. So even though I was better than a lot of the kids I played against, you know, there was guys getting drafted in the junior leagues. We didn't have a draft, but it was called Protected List. They were getting picked up quicker than I was.

And I actually didn't get picked up until six, seven months before I went to junior. So I knew I was pretty good, but trying to convince everybody else was a little bit tougher. Is it hard in a town of 200 or whatever you said it is to get noticed? Like even if you are the best, like is it, or do they just find you in Canada? You know what happens when I grew up, they take three or four of these little towns and make one team. And then you travel around and play in the big league. And then when I moved to the big city of Fort Saskatchewan, which is 11,000 people.

Oh, bright lights. Yeah, bright lights. They kicked me out of the team I was playing. And they said, I played there for a while and they finally said, you don't live out in the country anymore. You got to go into town. And when we went in town, that's when I realized, wow, shit, we're pretty good. in town we end up winning the western canadian championships which is basically the national championship for our ages you know the last game is televised on tv nationally so uh it was a big

deal so you know it was a it was a good good thing for me actually before we get into that because one thing i didn't actually know that you were a stick boy for the edmonton oilers when the great one stick boy yeah yeah might be better than wizard yeah stick boy so this yeah this yeah this yes uh my father was the the practice goalie for the oilers for about 30 years um So when I was around 11 and 12 years old, every day, he'd go and practice with them every day. So if I didn't have school or hockey, I was tagging along, and I'd bring my equipment and I'd skate. When they were done, I'd go out there and skate for a couple hours. And my dad would just wait for me.

And then I started working game nights, and Gretz being the best one ever, he'd walk in, and he had a bunch of names for him. He called me, I mean, whatever was on his tip of his tongue that night, he called me. And he'd say, I need five tonight, you know. So I was back in the day where he used wood sticks. So I'd go grab five new sticks, cut it up. And so he trusted you to cut him. Yeah, I mean, he wasn't going to cut him. Wow.

I know that. Yeah, mouse. I don't know. So he would actually, I'd cut them. I'd leave him in a stall. He'd come back and do it whatever he's doing. He'd tape them. I'd pick him up.

And then what he did, he, that nobody else did. He put baby powder on the tape, on the blades. And baby powder, all that was, it's to keep water off your blades or keep snow off your blades. Nowadays, people use wax. But those days, he used baby powder. So I'd baby powder them and leave him one stick. And the best part about that guys is that hockey players and their sticks are like golfers and their clubs.

When you got to, you know, you struggle to find what fits you. And each night players would take a wood stick and they would look at the curve. They would flex it. They'd change their curve with the torch. They would move it around, do what they wanted. Wayne never did any of that. He'd walk in. He didn't look at his stick.

He'd just leave me one. I could have left him a broom but said 99 on it. And he would have been happy. So he was that good and that creative. And then my other job was to make sure that. that, you know, he had Gatorade after the game that wasn't Gatorade. Oh, nice. So it was an easy job to have to take care of him before the game,

take care of him after the game. It's kind of the same role at Gowser Ranch now. Well, it's funny you say that. Now we're going up there and we're playing in the Bel Air member of guests about three weeks ago. And I'm flying from Gosser and he's out getting his daughter situated at SMU. And so he goes, hey, Ray, do you mind bringing my clubs for me? I said, once a stick boy, I was a stick boy, I guess.

So here I am traveling the country with his sticks again. Give me a drink, too, bitch. Yeah, and while you're at it, make sure I get a Gatorade. I love that. I darkly. I didn't know about this wax and powder. I didn't have that on my stick, by the way. That's probably why the puck wouldn't go in the air.

Yeah, well, that and many other reasons why I didn't go there. Not in a few variety of ways. Yeah, he was kind of a pioneer. And some people tried to copy him, but then it just looked like you were trying to copy the best one, you know, then you humiliate yourself. There's only one person that should have to be powder in their blades. And that's the great one. What was it like? I mean, obviously, you're getting to grow up around him and watch the greatest to ever do it. I mean, there's only one great one.

There is. And watching him do his thing. Well, it wasn't just him. You had Mark Messi on that team. You had Paul Coffey, he had Grant Fier. He had, I think there's six or seven Hall of Fames on it. But it might have the best team ever assembled. You know, there's obviously going to be debate for that. But this one was the most creative and fun to watch. And I got to watch it from the bench on a nightly basis and got to skate with him every day that I didn't have hockey. The coaching. staff there was great. Even if they had a full practice, I'd sit on the bench with the full equipment waiting for the practice to be over. As soon as coach blew the whistle and gave me the nod, I was on the ice running around like a, like I was an Emmington Oiler at 1415. That's incredible. I don't think they would have achieved anything without Stickboy, though. Well, no, they wouldn't have got two hundred in some points. He would have got, he would got like 150 if that was there. You're kind of like Steve Scott. He created a tiger. You created a way. Without that small-marking incident, the tiger is a zero. That's right.

Gretzky's nothing without you. He's not much. I tell him that all time. He's, every and then he'll throw it over my bow, saying I would have scored, you know, 1,100 goals if it wasn't for you. And I said, you would have scored 500 if it wasn't for me. Now, the fact that he says 500 is still unbelievable. Yeah, I wouldn't have scored shit. You know, one of his best lines up in Gauzer, too, is when he makes a put or he does something there, and everybody says, you know, who says whatever, great shot, and he goes, what? No, TVs where you're from? Yeah, yeah, there's no real comeback to him. But to get back to your point called watching the best team ever. And then when they win the Stanley Cup, they win in 87, they win in 88. Obviously, my

dad's there. He's going out with him. I'm working, but I'm the designated driver now. So I'm out to the bars with these guys at 14, 15 years old, just turned 16. I'm out these with these. So my job there, I never stopped working. My job then was just the dance with their wives on the dance floor while they sat there and drank out of the cup and did their party. And I was just there to keep the flies away from the wives. And that wasn't a bad gig either. Yeah. Wow. Pretty good. What a life. You live in a life. Yeah. For 15 years old. I mean, that's like being Jordan's ball boy for the bulls. Yeah. And then And then going out with him when he wins.

Yeah, and then be like, oh, you want me to dance with the Wi-Fi? Yeah. Make sure she's okay. And the one year they won, I just turned 16 years old. And my dad, when I turned 16, he bought me a 72 Volkswagen beetle. You know, and you lift the front up and that's got, that's the hood. The engine's in the back. So I'm getting ready for their playing boss, and they're going to win it.

They're going to clinch it at home. So we're getting champagne. We're getting a beer. We're getting on. I sneak two bottles of champagne. I run them out to my car. I stick him in my hood. So, you know, the night goes, they win me party.

go home, I take dad home. Who's a police officer, by the way, you know, so I was the designated driver. I take him home. You don't get much by a police officer, you know. So next morning, dad gets up, you know, and I'm there, and he let me stay home from school that night. He walks out to the beetle, lifts up the trunk, sees the two bottles of champagne in there, just took one. He took one. He let, and I was only 16. He let me have one. He let me have one, and we opened it up with my buddies, and my dad was, you know, my dad's a tight-ass when it comes to stuff like that and I was pretty proud of them for letting me have one of them. What a guy.

That is awesome. I'm surprised you turned out the way you are with a cop dad. Yeah. I mean, there was a lot of hiding going on. And I wasn't, uh, I'm pretty shady. That's why you, yeah, I know, dude. You're a crafty little bastard. Yeah.

Well, you didn't play juniors that long. I mean, you get drafted at 19. I mean, that's got to be unbelievable. I mean, was there ever a time where you doubt it? Like, that's going straight from high school to the NBA or NFL or whatever. Was there ever a time you doubted, like, am I good enough of being that, you know, Not at that time. I was starting to believe more.

Later in my career, I started to doubt a little bit. But in junior, I would left home at 16. There was 139 pounds of the fish all way. And my roommate that they put me with was a full seven inches taller than me and 100 pounds heavier. He was the toughest guy in league at the time, which is why they put me with him. But, you know, going and leaving home at that early and at that size,

I figured, shit, I must be pretty good if I can do it at this age. And each year I got better and better. And then the last year I got drafted, I was, I led Canada and scoring, not just my league, but all three leagues. And we won the national championship. So I was pretty confident myself at that point. You think of cocky now. You should have saw me back then.

Finally, you get some confidence. Oh, my gosh. It was, you know, but then I got drafted 23 overall, which is at that time I'm so old that that was actually the first pick in the second round. Yeah. I saw that. I was like, wait, these numbers don't really add up. Yeah.

That's not a first rounder. Yeah. So, and then once you turn pro, I guess I can say to any, but he gets drafted and whatever sport they're in. I get getting drafts is the easy part. That's the, that's the easiest. Because once you turn pro, man, everybody's good. And so that took me a little while to figure that out.

Well, I want to talk a little about the Spokane Chiefs because, uh, this has got to be a typo, right? 185 points in one season. Yes, regular season. How many games is that? I played 71 that year. Okay. So were there bonus points like double point nine or something?

No. Is that a record? Get one free? No, no, it's not a record. Nobody's come. nobody's got there since, but no, there's guys at 200 in the 200s, and I was probably 25, 30 points shy of that. So that's, that's impressive for those guys who got into the 200s. But 185, 185 was big. Yeah, that was a big one. We had the, we had a great offensive team.

My line mate actually went second overall behind Eric Lindross. So we had the best team offensively, but we also have the toughest team, which makes you probably the better offensive team because you can do whatever you want. Everybody scared that they're going to get the shit kicked out of them. And that's what happened on them. We had the toughest guy in the league in 66 games because he had a few suspensions.

So you were nothing without him? He had 66 fights. Oh, respect. And, you know, I never saw a knuckle on his left hand all year. All he just walk around with an ice bag on his hand. And that's a tough. And that's a tough gig. Guys, that's in a day when they didn't just fight.

Like today they fight, they're not allowed to take their helmets off or else the reps get in there right away. In those days, they actually backed up, unbuckled their helmets, spun it on the ice, and now it's just a bare knuckle fight, and he had 66 of them in regular season. So, and in that day, that helped.

His dentist is living nice. He never, he kept all his teeth, he never got cut. I mean, it was actually unbelievable. It's just the fact that I never saw his knuckle on his hand. That's a tough kick. Just different breed. You mentioned the game back then was obviously a lot more physical, a lot of fighting.

There's a lot of big boys running around hitting each other. Yeah. Would you say your game, because, I mean, you were fast, smaller. Would you say it's suited now for today's NHL better than it was when you played? For sure. The first half of my career was built with trees. You know, if you weren't, I didn't get drafted my first year eligible either. I had to go in the first three rounds, but I had 113 points that year.

I didn't get drafted. And it was because of the size. It was because players had to be over six feet back then. And if you're a defenseman, you had to be six three. and, you know, once I did get drafted, got into it, the rules are way different. A little guy could not get through the sticks. You could hold, you could hold, or hook, hold,

just push people around. And today, it's free will and they can go anywhere they want without anybody touch them. So I would say I'd be better off today than I was back then. Think about how much money you'd have. Well, a lot more. I mean, still wouldn't have as much as I like with my wife. You're doing all right?

I'm hanging in there. Yeah, I'm afraid to read. Don't be too proud. You know what the funny thing about money is now too? It's especially with older players and probably the same in golf cult. You know, people, the older guys used to complain about the money. You know, what I played, I only got paid this. And 99 changed that for us, probably like Tiger changed it for you guys.

So talking to Wayne, he's one of the best in the league or best in the world for saying, you know, good for him. He made that, you know, these contracts now are, you know, ridiculous compared to what he got. And he's the best ever play. I'm one of those guys too. I'm happy that they're getting it, and we all played a small part in building the league to what it is. But it's funny if you look at it. It's all sports now.

I mean, but if you look at the NHL compared to NBA, NFL, baseball, it's like Austin Matthews is the best in the world now. And what's he make? 10, 11 a year? He makes, I think he makes 11. McDavid's the best in the league. I'm sorry.

Conradiv's the best. And he's making 13. But you look at guys in the NBA who are making 43. You got guys that is... If you can make 60% of your free throws in the NBA, you're going to get to get. You got fourth guys on the bench that I've never even heard of. I follow it pretty close and they're making 18 a year.

Yeah, really? It's obviously they only have what, 11 guys on their roster? Yeah, 1112 maybe. Football's got 53. Yeah, obviously TV generated. We're not, we're not as big in the U.S. as we should be or would like to be. It's funny. I had a good conversation with the guy, one of the owners for the UFC, a big agent, Patrick

Whitesell, great, great man. And we were just talking about hockey and the UFC and how well it's doing. and he had a reverse take on what hockey is trying to take fighting out of it, out of the game a little bit and slow it down. He's, he's of the opposite opinion. He goes, you guys should be selling it. I agree. 100%.

And people, you know, you look how well they're doing, you know, in the UFC. People will be watching it even more, especially when you go live, you see, hey, is this stage nut? And you see a bare-knuckle fight and some guys get sliced open above his eye and gets her his teeth knocked out. You're like, oh. I mean, I get the safety part, but as far as entertainment. Oh, shoot.

As a guy that doesn't watch a lot of hog, doesn't pretend to know a lot about hockey. I don't ever watch a game or go to a game, but I hope there's no fights. It's like the most coveted thing I can, like I hope there's five of them. When there's a fight, you know, you watch, just look at the crowd. They all stand up and if it's a good one, they're energized for the next 10 minutes. They can't believe it. It's a differentiator for hockey. It's so exciting.

I took Gary Woodland to his first NHL game. It was in Dallas against Pittsburgh Penguins. Sydney Crosby's playing. Final score seven to five. There were seven fights. Crosby fought. He's like, this is the greatest thing. I'm like, this is not how this goes every night.

We don't do that every night. I'll never forget. Crosby dropped the gloves with Matt Niskinan. Yeah, I mean, but the fact the best player in the world, or in our game at a time, yeah. It's still is trying to, you know, he's still mucking enough. 12 goals and seven fights, Gary's like, this is incredible. We lean into that.

Yeah, exactly. Tapp into that. Lean into that. Now, now people don't have to fight. Like, nobody has to go out in the ice and fight. But I tell you what. Don't take it away. They love the, every.

Every fan favorite, just one of every team is the guy who fights. I mean, they all love the skill guys, obviously, but the fan favorite, usually the guy who's out there knuckle dusting at all time. 100%. Well, one of those fan favorites you want a Stanley Cup with, who is also one of subpar's favorite guests ever. Very, very popular. Anywhere I go, they're like, who is this Mike Commodore guy?

I've got to meet him. You win a cup with him in the 0-506 season in Carolina. Yeah. You got to give us a little insight into your relationship with Mike Commodore. So Mike Commodore and I, both from that same small town. I was telling you about 11,000 people. What a coincidence.

And that is actually unheard of as well. His mother was our high school of principal at the time, who actually failed me in a couple courses. That's hard to believe, dude. I mean, I'm a smart guy, and she just would not give me credit. So I'd miss it. But anyway, Mike is a very interesting guy. He was a college player.

I went to junior. You'd think Mike could be suited for junior because, you know, the size of him. And what people don't understand is he's actually really intelligent. And, you know, what he takes. I don't understand that. What? He hides it very well. He hides it well.

Because when he gets off, when he goes off the rails, man, it's a, it's a thing of beauty. And it's fun to watch. And but playing with him, he was a man who knew his limits. And he'd always have a great quote. He come around the net. And he goes, Ray, I saw you open on the far side. I'm not going to make that pass. I'm off the glass and out of the zone.

Safety first. Safety first. Right? And that was his thing. And everybody laughs, but laughs. it but then it's a two one game game seven in the Stanley Cup finals you know for all the marbles and my commoner was on the ice at the end of the game so uh he took up a lot of space he's big and strong he was tough and what a character i mean he for those who don't know i mean you obviously

didn't cut his hair the entire season and this thing grew and grew and grew it's like a chia pet and he'd wear this robe the and everlast sends him a robe so now he's you know they're selling robes on the on the concourse um you know we go to we go to we go to alberta and we go to emminton in the finals and you know the history of some of the places Detroit throws an octopus on the ice and that and Alberta is known for Alberta beef so they throw a big raw big piece of steak on the ice while commies on the ice starting during the anthem as soon as the anthem's over he goes over there and just tomahawks just spears this piece of meat and just grabs it and throws it over I mean he's a he's an interesting guy he's a he's a fun guy

my kids love him except the asshole brought over my my daughter or my daughter was my daughter my son they turn five in caroline i bring him over you know he came over for for dinner he brings a fricking drum set yeah that's good gift that's what a guy that's what parents want their kids to be doing and because the kids of course hey dad set this up so we put this drum set on and they're smashing away on it he's just sitting back there drinking his tequila giggling away oh there's a trumpet learn this too yeah yeah but he had the robe thing going on during that time which made him very popular you had a little gig too the where's whitney uh where you were trying to sneak into interviews tell us about that. Well, those you guys know me, I don't take a whole lot serious. Once this puck

dropped, I was serious, but I wasn't a guy who did a lot of pregame stretching. I didn't do a lot of meditating. I usually watch Seinfeld until it was time to go for warm-up. So I basically joke around until game time. And, you know, it's funny because Rod Brindamor, who's coached out of the Carolina Hurricanes, he might be the most serious guy I played with. And he's intense, he's intense. And I get a warm-up and everybody's around there, stretching and doing stuff. I have nothing to do. You know, I don't stretch. So, I'm shooting a couple of poxed and then I'm tired of that. So I got in behind guys while they were getting interviewed on the bench, you know, during the warm-up.

And I just started making faces and start popping up. And I would do it without anybody knowing it. I didn't tell anybody if you watched this. I just kind of was doing it. So then, but a month into it, we're in L.A. And the coach at the time, Peter Lavellat, he's watching all these warm-ups. And he's like, I know he's got a great. Every time that name comes up, I keep going.

Yeah. So it's a side story to that one. So I was doing it. Finally, he says, you guys ever noticed in warm up? You ever watch what it's doing? And they're like, no. So they went back to a few games in a row, and they're like, well, he's,

he's just effing around out there. That's all he's doing. I don't know if he's even, if he's even taking a shot, he's just messing around. And so the next game, we had our power play meeting, we had our video session

or our penalty killing. He goes, and guys, he has one more video. If you guys don't know what they're doing, what's going on a warm up. Here's what's really going on a warmup. And he shows a clip of the last six games. And that's just me, around for the entire time and nobody had a clue i was doing it so that's how intense everybody i guess is

on the ice they didn't even know i'm back there screwing around that's incredible where's whitney yeah how do you not stretch yeah we just wake up ready to go i wake up yeah wake up right to go he's a lion yeah wake up right cheetahs is a cheetah out there stretching before it goes after it's good point no forget wake up and roll i mean i'd have a coffee and i would watch seinfeld and i would you know if you stretch it too far then it's going to keep on going keep it tight yeah Keep it tight. Any other than Seinfeld, any superstitions? Yeah, there was plenty superstitions.

Let's go. I love this part. Yeah, so, especially in the playoffs, during the regular season, you would switch it here and there. But in the playoffs, if you went a certain route to the game or to the morning skate, if you stopped at a certain Starbucks for your coffee, you could actually time me or watch everything I did from that game to the next, if we won, would be the exact same to what I did before I went on. I always got dressed the same way, always right side first.

Um, no, that, that was just, I'd always tape my sticks the same way. I'd always re-taped them every game. So I'd have four sticks a night. If I only use two or three, I would, or excuse me, one or two, I would still tape all of them again, brand new. And, and then from there, after the game, or after, after the pregame meal, first of all, pregame meal, would be exactly the same, right down to the noodle almost. Well, what was it? Well, I started off the bowl soup. Okay.

You love soup. I love soup. I mean, this man, it's 110 degrees in Scotts dough. He finished golf. Or get a chili? Chicken noodle, please. Chicken noodle soup. I love my chicken noodle. I'd have a chicken noodle soup. I'd have a chicken parm with some

noodles and I'd put my salad on top of it with the dressing and I'd mix it all in and make one big goulash and I'd finish that. And I always had a chocolate or hot fudge Sunday, chocolate Sunday, because we had ice cream there at the... You get a chocolate Sunday before the game? Oh, right? Yeah, we don't, we eat at 1 o'clock. We don't eat again until 10 o'clock at night, so, you know, you're going to burn the calories off. So chicken parm with a salad? That's a strange. Oh, it was kind of strange. Everybody thought it was kind of, you know, kind of If it works, though.

It was that bad where we actually in Boston one night in the order. They screwed the order up, so they had no chicken parham. And I don't like just regular grilled chicken for pregame. So I was so pissed off at them that I said, I'm not eating anything then. I'm just going to eat soup. Giving it to our team services guy. I ate five bowls of soup. That's my pregame meal.

I had a hat trick and two assists. We won five four. New routine. So what do you think I did the next day? Five bowls of soup. And I was here better. And I was the shits. So I went back.

Three gallons. So it even got to the point where superstitions were right to your home. You know, like, you know, to the home life with, you know, with moments. It's like clockwork. Once you get something that works, like you don't mess that up. But going back to the Hurricanes team with you and Tommy and all the shenanigans that were going on, is that the most take away the Stanley Cup? I know you guys won the cup that year. Is that the most fun like you've ever had playing in the NHL? Or was there another city where it's like, hey, it's really good to be a part of the pro hockey team here?

That one is probably the tightest team I played with. and Peter Lavillette did a great job of incorporating family into it as well. We had wives, kids. Everybody was kind of one big group. So it was a really tight group. It was probably the most tight-knit I've had. But believe it or not,

one of the funnest teams that was on was the expansion team in Columbus. And whenever you're on expansion team, like you're going to see it with the Seattle Cracking and Vegas nights, like they're not castaways, but they're players that were left available, right? And so they usually have common attitudes. They're usually good people. They're usually guys who have to work hard.

There's usually no egos because there's no superstar coming in any of that group. So we had a great time in Columbus. Now, we didn't win a lot of games, you know, so that part sucked. But we had a great time off the ice. It was a bunch of good dudes. Well, we got to hear about, because, I mean, the tradition is when you win the Stanley Cup, you get the Cup for a day. Right.

What was Ray Whitney's day with the Cup? My day started with me puking. Perfect. That's how a lot of good days started. Yeah. So, back story. So the Stanley Cup, every player gets a day with it. But Mike Commodore and I are from the same hometown.

So we get to share three days. We had a day and a half each. But you have to wait for it to fly commercial. So the day it was supposed to land for me. It was going to be like one or two in the afternoon. So Cami and I chartered the plane and went to St. Louis to Doug Wait's party. And we party with him all night. And we ended up finally taking it.

We ended up at Joe Buck's house. And we finally had at 6 o'clock in the morning. Say, hey, guys, we got to go. Six in the morning. So we take it. go back to the hotel where we left our bag. We actually never got into the hotel. We just picked our bags up where we dropped them. We went to the plane. We had the cup the cup keeper of the cup was with us. So we all get on this private plane. We take an ambient. We need some sleep. You know,

it's a four or five hour flight back. So we land. I could have smuggled whatever I wanted into Canada from that day because the customs people in Canada, you bring the Stanley Cup. They could care less what you have coming out of that plane, as long as I could take a picture of the Stanley Cup. Choppo could fly that thing. Yeah. Yeah, you're good. Keep it moving. Keep it moving.

Where's the cup? Where's the cup? So we take a picture of the cup with them. I'm not feeling very good. So I run into the terminal there and I throw up. So I get off. Wife calls me. We got the day plan.

We're going to my grandmother's house at 8, 30, 9 o'clock in the morning. And then we're going to my other grandmother's house. She was in a home. I took it to the home. But I told her I started with the puk. Man, she was so pissed off. Rich, relax. Yeah, she's like, you better be ready to go.

I'm like, oh, I'll be ready. So the drinking that day, you know, you want to touch as many people as you can with it because it's truly the biggest celebrity there is in Canada. There's a Stanley Cup aside from 99. And so I went to my grandparents, both their places. I took it to my small town. I gave it to my parents for an hour so all their friends could have it. I took it to my wife's friends or parents' place for an hour.

I took it to the dealership who gave me a vehicle every year to drive in the summertime time, I'd let them have it for an hour. I took it to the only really good restaurant we had that let me used to cook my own pizzas from the time I was 12 years old. I took it to them for an hour. And then Mike and I had a little small parade through our small town. It took three minutes to get through downtown Main Street. And then we went to the main park there. And we did a quick little speech thing. And then we had the kids all were allowed to all the hockey players from around the area. We stayed there until the last one was done. So there was probably four or five hundred kids that came up got their picture with the cup.

And then from there, I went back to my place with all my buddies just for a second. We started getting going. And my big party was at the arena. I told you guys about earlier, that little small town of 200 people is like seven kilometers out of town. So that's where the main party was. We had it cut in half. There's no ice during the summer there.

And we had all my friends in for that one. And then that national championship team I told you about what I played when I was young before I went to junior, that whole team came to join. It was a pretty cool day. And then we, again, we go to five in the morning, and then we get up the next morning at eight, jumped back on the plane, went to British Columbia where I was part of a golf course development thing.

We did another half day there. Took Mike and his parents with us. And finally halfway through that day, we landed back at Eminton, and I said, here, you take this freaking thing. I've seen this. I need enough. I need a break.

And then, Kami started on the back end of all that. So he truly is a champ. He can dig in. He was pretty calm with it. He told us he regrets not going down. everyone's party. He was the only guy, he was the only guy I think that could. Yeah. Right? Exactly. First of all, he's not married.

Didn't have a girlfriend at a time. Or if he did, she was secondary. Back up. He's back up. He hit more, uh, parties, I think than anybody in our team by, by quite a bit. I think he doubled the next guy. So if you,

if you invited them, you know, obviously it goes to Europe. We had some European players. Um, if he could have timed it properly, he would have went over there and hit everyone. God, that'd be, I keep saying that'd be a hell of a document. Oh my gosh. If they would be allowed. What do these cupkeepers do?

Like these guys, they have to sign some NDA or something? Or did they ever look at you be like, nope, you can't do that with the house? Well, nowadays it's different. Now the cup has to be gone into the hotel by midnight. It has to leave the party at midnight. That's tough. Really? That's a shit murder.

And this is because some, you know, some guys of the league. I don't know if I like this world right now. Well, some of the guys in the past of, you know, it ended up in some strip joints. And, you know, like, as it does. I mean, I guess. But they're trying to keep the image. And the further than the night goes, obviously, the more drunk people get and the less careful they get.

And that wasn't the case for us, but our cupkeeper, I felt bad for him. He had to go a week straight. And like I said, they'd do a week on and a week off. And I couldn't imagine because you have to drink. And they drink, they drink with us. Oh, really? Oh, man. Oh, so they go.

Oh, they go. Oh, no, man. Well, they're keeping an eye on it, but they're keeping an eye on it. But with one eye? They're keeping one eye on it? They go until five in the morning. They're there until five in the morning. They can't be out of the sight with it.

So we get tired. They figure it out. They figure it out. So we, yeah, exactly. So we get back to my place from my party and I think we shut down at three or I don't even know what time we went. Because I had to benefit of my dad being a policeman. We had police security and police escorts everywhere. So it was, we were working good hands.

But we go back to my place. Everybody's passing out, going to bed. When a cup keeper grabs the cup and he takes it into my shower and I was going to wash it off. Because you've got to figure there's 500 people's lips been on this thing all night. So he washes it off. and he leaves it in the room for Bridget and I to sleep with her. Yeah. What you do with whatever?

Just to look at and hang out. Does the admire? Yeah. You know, she just looks at it goes, hey, champ. Hey, champ. Do you put your chin strap on? Time to go. Yeah, it's time to punch the clock.

So those guys, those guys really do an unbelievable job. That's incredible. That'd be a hell of a job. You work in the NHL now. Can you not get a lot? a documentary made, just following, all right, whoever wins a cup this year, boom, we're following this thing. That'd be the best. You kidding me? The problem with it now in today's days, especially our culture and the way life is, I'm not sure everybody could handle what goes on and

what does it. Forget them. Yeah, I would say forget them too, but I think, you know, the league's trying to keep a certain image and it would have been great to do back in the day with the end of the older's back in the 80s when those guys probably not only were the best, they were the best team. They actually party harder than anybody as well, which was you know that's why a lot of their games are really high high energy high a lot of goals because they were like ah we don't need to play defense I love you know yeah everything 99 is we got 99 yeah yeah we just yeah we got him correct before we got to talk some golf I mean we could talk hockey we got to got out golf you got golf too yeah you're a golfer dude you know you're really

good golfer but don't really care about that because you did go to the olympics over in rio with grand dilett fellow golf subpar alum here and you know you're a good golfer but you know you're really good golfer alum here and you were on the bag it was on the bag what was that week like for you first cadding experience that was my first pGA tour

okay i've done i did done some stuff for julie inkster in the past um we have known since for the last 25 30 years but um graham first asked me and I said ah shoot you know I can't do it

you know I get home with the kids I got back in school and this and that I got off the phone of them told bridget what he offered me you know asked me and she looked at me Like, are you an idiot? Like, you're going. So I called him back and said, okay, I can do it.

And he went on, he moved on to somebody, but he went back and told me, yeah, sorry, I can't do it. That poor guy. Yeah, sorry. Sorry. God, Bridget runs the show. Oh, I know. Thank God, by the way. Yeah, they all run the show.

If you think they don't, then you're just fooling yourselves. You give in. Just give him. So being around the Olympics, first of all, the whole experience of the Olympics, I got to stay in the village. Everything Graham had, I had, except I had access to the coach's room because I was consider the coach. And now in Canada, we have some of the best beer in the world. And most in Canadian, the sponsors, you know, the Canadian team, there's no beer for the athletes, but there's beer for the coaches. As there should be. And so I'd go up there. And I'd have a couple

cocktails, a couple beers. I'd load my jacket and I'd take it down to the golf floor. Because golfers don't always have, they don't need to be in great condition. And as long as you can keep your eyes open the next day. So it was great. I mean, we were the second off. Brazil was hosting. So they teed off first. Canada being the defending channel. back from the 20s. Graham Tied off second, and it was an absolute unbelievable nerve-wracking experience, actually, as a caddy.

It's, you know, my math is, I thought was good until there's some pressure. And you know, I'm sure you're going to bring this up, too. You're such an asshole. I haven't even said anything. Yeah, I don't. It's common. It's common. Yeah, it's common.

So we had a great day. The first day, he shot 500. He's in second place, and it was truly a great experience. the next day is when things went a little bit sideways as a caddy. And when you left a pin sheet, we blew it. Well, I didn't leave the pin sheet, but I didn't have a pinch sheet. All right. I get it, dude.

It happens a lot of great caddies. So, you know, I'll give Graham credit. We have a Canada that has a golfing coach that isn't Graham's coach in anyway, but he's incorporating everybody. He's a great man. And he was putting the pins in the green reading books, which I didn't even know existed. You guys are cheaters, by the way.

You need a green reading book. should be part of the art, I think, of reading at Green. But anyway, he put those in there, and I figured that was, he must have figured that was enough because he didn't put the pin sheets back in our, in our, in our books. And I didn't think anything of it. And Graham, I'll never forget it, though. Graham hits a 307-yard drive up the right side, and we get out to the ball, and he's looking for his pinch sheet and goes, where's the pin sheet? Give me a pin sheet. And I look, I don't have a pin sheet. I'm like, I put the pins in here already, he goes, I need a pin sheet. He had a little bit of a panic look to his face. So I'm like,

He was laying it up anyway. He was a par five. So I just put the bag down. Pick what you want. Leave it there. I'll be right back. I got a gold medal. Yeah.

614-yard sprint. And nobody would have run it faster than me. I was back. I ran so damn fast. The other team was still, the other three guys were just still taking their pictures, you know, for the photo. And I ran right by them into the tent.

I grabbed two. Picture. I grabbed two pin sheets and I ran through the three. And now he's up. Now I got to run with a bag, though. So now I've got to catch up to him. You see how he did that though He went and got it

Yeah so Slee's exactly I ran into a similar situation And his player He said his player The player went back He got it Oh no I offered by the way

I'm way I'm way I'm way I'm way He's like no I'll get I'm like dude you're way I'm a much better Sprinter than you are He's obviously just confident I said you know what actually

Yeah you go get it I got to get up here I got to get my mind right I can get your next number Yeah exactly I'll go set the back down And do nothing until you get back And so being

But being in the Olympics, though, and getting to see all the other events. We got to see Michael Phelps swim. We got to see Bolt win the 100. So you got to see a lot of things. And I was, you know, with the Canadian athletes, taking as many pictures with them as I could. And then finally, I sent the pictures back home to Bridget and my friends in that. And finally, Bridgett, one day goes, are there any males participating in the Olympics? How are you doing?

Yeah, it was basically, it was all women. I totally, yeah, big tennis fan. I was with the basketball, the basketball, the basketball, the basketball. The basketball players were towering over me. The boxers, the gloves, you know, fists up and, you know, touching my jaw. Oh, it was the best. But I told Bridget, there's no males in this Olympics for Canada. This is a female only.

Yeah. One thing I... It's not being sexist, Bridget. Graham told me I have to ask because you got out there on the track and got amongst it a little bit. Oh, what did we run? Tell us a little bit about this. You're in your track suit? Yeah, we all look the same.

I'm in my, you know, track suit. I look like an athlete still. I was, you know, I retired, but I hadn't let myself go just yet. So I was still fit. Very tight. I looked fit. So we're going to the track and field event. And we're going to the track and field bus.

And it drops you off right at the practice, at the warmup track. So we kind of go in the back door. We don't actually don't have to go through the middle, you know, the main gates or anything. So we walk up the ramp. We find ourselves on the watching these great athletes warming up. And Yusane was on the other side. He was going to go in about an hour and a half. So we sat there and I said to Graham.

I said, help you don't see me get out there and just do a couple warmups and a couple knee tucks and some ads? kicks and so he goes I dare you to go out there so I get there and I start doing the big arm swings and I start doing you know I'm stretching a little bit and I never stretch as you know and I walk across the track now I'm inside the track where all the athletes are and I'm just going back and forth and I'm doing you know neat high knees everything I'm doing I'm doing ass kicks and I'm doing a quick little sprint I pretend I'm and meanwhile my credentials are juggling all over the place and these guys are laughing and the serious athletes are out there actually warming up

Meanwhile, there's actually people getting ready to go race. That have worked for four years to be in this position. This little assholes out there just joking around. And these guys were him and David O'Hard were just dying laughing, though. And as I'm about to come across the track and come back to these guys, I don't look both ways. And this, she was a German sprinter. Went flying by me. And if I would have went a little bit earlier, she would have ran right over me.

She didn't care one bit or another. She was flying through there. And I realized how fast that they moved in. And I was like, oh, man, this girl is really fast. It's really fast. Was Usain checking you out from McGrath? Like, who is this Canadian? I've never heard.

He thought I was DeGrasse. He must be fast. So Canada actually finished. I think he got a bronze in that one. Or just silver. He finished second or third. I can't remember. But watching, another great story for him is there's 85,000 people in this arena

waiting for the 100. Obviously, he gets out there and the place goes crazy. And they're in the blocks. And everybody's got a speaker behind them. And they're laying. I didn't realize that they had their individual speakers for the gun. because they can't hear. They all have to be able to hear equally.

Well, they still can't hear because it's so loud. So you're saying bolts down. He's in his crouch and he kind of sits up and he puts his finger to his lips. Gives everybody the hush and 85,000 people to sweat. That's sad. That's power. That's power. You can do that.

And then in 10 seconds later, he had them all doing this. You know, he had them all hands up because it took no time at all for that. It's crazy. What an experience. It was, especially because I was never going to play in a winter one coming from Canada. You know, I think Canada, we could send two teams half the time and still be all right. And now the U.S., I think, are getting close to that as well.

But my brother did a little survey. He goes, if I was not Canadian, I probably could have played in three or four of them if I was from somewhere else. But I'm a proud Canadian. And if I didn't get to play in it, it's the burden. It's the burden. Fort Saskatchewan. You know what I mean?

Heavy as a head that wears the crown. That's right. That's right. Let's talk a little more golf. Yeah, let's do talk a little golf. Why don't you play and can you get in Tahoe? Tahoe is an A-list celebrity event. What are you?

I'm a B, I guess. I've been, B-minus. I've had some, I guess some good friends who were on it. Yeah, B-minus, maybe. You know, Wayne and, you know, obviously you guys know, Janet's as powerful as Wayne when it comes to, you know, more. Yeah.

She always asked, you want to play. And then I play a lot with John Elway up in Gauzer, who played it a lot of times. And, you know, he's offered to get me in. I'm like, that's a week away from, you know, from Gaza. From Gaza. Okay, so a week away from Gaza. I would be interested, but like I said, it's, you got to do it once.

It's a week off my vacation. You're a plus two, three handicap. Wayne can get you, do you want in? What time do you want to tee off? Who do you want to play with? And do you want some credit at the casino? I think the people they have in there now are pretty good. They're some current players and there some Hall of Famers that are in there.

So, again, when you're talking to an event like that, hockey would be the, you know, pretty low on the, on the ladder in terms of what celebrities they want to see there. You need football, basketball, you know, the odd baseball guy. I know Mark's been in there a few times. Vinny just wanted. Yes, Vinny, dude, you got to keep the rock a lot. I know, I know. So, you know, but they're starting another event now in Cordellane, which Colts been trying to get in.

First of all, I haven't tried. I've been asked if I would like to play. And basically, Ray and Brendan Morrow both told me they'd kill me if I showed up. Conflicting reports here. Yeah. What's the truth? Well, I think, I think. think to be honest they asked if you'd like to play but i think he thinks he's entitled to to actually

count and win and if that it'll turn to violence then brennan and i turned violent i turned a former pro golfer although onica plays in tahoe so uh marro neil plays and she played she played in cordalane next year this year and she did she did well she did very well yeah i got a face time on the 18th t it was the final group was ray whitney brendan morrow and mark molder is that the one molder one yeah Yeah. Mulder had a six-shot lead, four-shot lead with one to play. Yeah. And this one was pout pout, pout. Were you pout, pout fish?

Don't be a rough day. You should be the favorite in that, by the way. You and Molder are. I actually had a good first day. Right there. You had a great first day. I had some issues, though. I got to be honest with you, I showed you the picture of what I was going through that, Nate.

Have you guys got vaccinated? Yeah, sure. Okay. So apparently this is what happened. I got it later two months after, but. I was dealing with some big issues with this rash I had going. That's not COVID, dog. And I don't know what it was,

but later I was told it was a side effect from my shots that I had. But I'm like, I've never been more uncomfortable on a golf course than that day. And it wasn't, that wasn't the full reason. I played like an asshole. But I could not stop scratching. My face was on fire. It was swollen.

and at hives. It was hard to play good golf. You think you have syphilis. Yeah. When you think you have some kind of disease, incurable disease. I was dead. And then Mark played well. Mark played well.

Like he always said. You should do Taho the one. Don't go through your, you're really good at golf right now. You're plus three or two or whatever you are. Go play it one time. What do you worry about? You win it and then people are like, who the hell is Ray Whitney? Yeah, maybe.

Tough shit. Figure it out. I'm the Tahoe champ. Let's get into that real quick. Because, you know, you are plus two, plus three. You do think highly of yourself around the golf course. I am pretty confident, as you know. You like to slap people around up there at Gaza.

Yeah, I do. But there's a new member that recently joined. I got everybody named of Matt Coucher, plays on the PGA tour, who might have served you a little piece of humble pie one day. Ooh, a little helping for the whizzy? Give us a little something about what happened when you decided to pop off to Matt Coocher. Well, those of you don't know me out there, I'm not very tall. Very good looking, though.

Very handsome. him. Rugged. Like to, in a rugged way. I like to, I like to be a little cocky. And so I was fortunate enough to win the club championship. Obviously, Matt's up there. He did not play in it.

But I was at dinner with him when he got back and I had just enough of tequila in me, just enough Dakota go in me that I, I said to him, Matt, just so you know your second best on property. Of course. And, uh, at what with, you know, golf, you're the second best golfer on property, just so you know. And I actually had to put a club champion on my, golf cart up there. Oh, that's cool. Just to give it to him. Humility. And he laughed. He goes,

okay, what time are you playing tomorrow? We play at 10-10 every day. I said 10-10, same as always. And so he goes, all right, I'll be there tomorrow. I'm like, okay, he shows up at 10-09 in his pickleball uniform. He hasn't even hit a ball yet. He just came from the pickleball court. Changes into his golf shoes. We go out there, we play. And I'm mouthy right from the right from the start as I normally am. We're both three under through four. So I'm thinking, yeah. You're hanging. I'm hanging and I think you might have had that a little bit worriedness just just maybe he's not going to fold and then he went on to shoot a 61 and he ended up beat me by nine and so the humble pie was served correctly I knew it was going to happen but I didn't know what was going to happen quite

like that because he actually missed a couple shorties he probably could have been 59 easy but you get humbled by pros who do their sport for a living especially when loudmouths think that they can do what you do for a living now I was wasn't expecting to beat them. You know, I knew that was going to happen. There's enough good, great players of Whisper Rock

for me to know that. But I didn't know I was going to get an absolute asswhip up and like that. But you still got to pop on. It's worth it. Same reason I took the hockey bet. You were thinking I'm actually going to friggin' rip slap shots. Now,

what if I win? But there's nothing but upside for you. Yeah, but downside for him. That's right. But I love when he just shows up and shoot 61 on you. With his pickleball gear. He didn't even hit a ball.

I mean, we played a couple weeks earlier, prior to that too, and I played a couple of them. And he only had half his clubs in his bag. He was just playing three wood and then think he was on odds that day, odd irons only. And so every time he hit, you know, we're on par five.

He just hit three wood. And as soon as he'd hit, I go, just a three wood today, huh? And, sure, you know. 61 today, right? Yeah, just another. I mean, golfers are the worst because you guys, he would hit it and as it's going in, he looks, well, that's weird. As it's going in, and I was like, God, you just, you can't turn to violence in golf.

He's got a good chirp about him, doesn't he? Yeah, he actually. He's got a sneaky chirp of them. People don't think he can chirp. He can chirp. He's the aw shucks, golly G guy out on the camera. But behind the scenes, he's got some chirp. He's got some chirp.

From what your wife has told me, and for how long I've known you, you're rather competitive guy. Does golf kind of, like, feel that void for you since you're away from hockey now? Yeah, except I'm, like you said, I get a pout pote sometimes. I get a little mad. A little sour. Let me tell you what Bridge says. Bridget tells me that he's so competitive.

He'll be at the gym, and he'll look over at what the senior citizens are doing on the treadmill and make sure that he at least doubles them. Yeah, I got a sickness on the bike. Sorry, the bike. Destroy 70-year-olds. It doesn't matter. God bless them, or out working out. It doesn't matter.

If somebody gets on the bike beside me, I'll just sit there, and I'll pretend I'm not watching it. I'll be looking over, checking their wattage, checking how fast they're on. I'm on 16. No, I want them to know that when they look at mine, it's going to be double what you're going. I hear you're still waiting for a shout out from the Peloton instructors, too.

Oh, yeah. Are you setting records? I'm always setting records. So they give you the milestones. say the 400 or 500, 400, 450. So I get the four, and I always, I just do online classes or, you know, kind of at your, at your leisure. But as soon as you hit the 400 or the, you know, the milestones, I'll do a live class just

to make, but now there's so many damn people on Pelotown. I'm not getting a shout out anymore. So I'm like, I'm not doing it anymore. Once you don't get the pub. No, they're not appreciating the work I'm putting out here. I mean, I mean, I go till I throw up times. Imagine if the instructors could see you. They can see how hard I'm working.

And because everybody knows I love doing the Peloton, you know, now they work for the league, our offices are to New York. So I thought I'm going to hit the Peloton studio, the live class. So I go there and there's not a lot of people there that day. It's my favorite instructor at the time. Who's that? Jennifer Jacobs.

I bet it's not a male. It's not a male. You're very pro-women. I respect that. Yeah. I think, you know, equality of everywhere. I want to give them their attention. So there's a couple of empty bikes right on for gynecology row there,

the first row. you know you know so I'm in the back I'm on you know I'm on bike 13 why wouldn't I

of course yeah and so I'm sitting there and the guy the guy running the thing he comes up up there's a spot up here

up front for you you know right front and I said no thank you the last thing I want is some assholes that I don't know or that I don't know

or watching or doing the live class they know I like the pedal ton if they see me in the front row the big smile in my face giving her all I got in the front row

I'd never hear the end of it so I said no I'm going to stay in the back here where you know the camera can't get a hold of me so you know what it's a yeah it's a sickness to you know hey sorry for being great well I'm pushing the body to the limits well I didn't push you this summer very much I'm kind of I feel like an oopalumpa right now you're about to go on a detox last question before we go to E9 number number one guy either at Gaza or whisper rock wherever hockey player or not that you like to beat the most whose money is the best for you we're talking with them No.

This one? This one. Oh, there is one guy I hate giving money to. It's this guy. The second, you know, side of this would be John Elway. You know.

Very comparable people. You get up there. Two all-timers. Yeah, you get up there in Gaza, and we're playing, and there's lots of games and there's lots of money flying around, and we'll just play a modest little, you know,

game between us. It has nothing to do with monetary. Yeah, it's just, it's just, I love NFL money, and he loves NHL money, and man, if I could lose to everybody, if I beat him, I walk off with a smile, and it's vice versa with the two of us.

He's an unbelievable individual, but man, he is as competitive as they come as well. So it's great for me to see other athletes and see how they are away from their sport and what they are. We're all the same. You know, we got to where we were because of who we are

and it's a little different with athletes of any other sport. I'll say one really cool thing he does. Like, you know, there's a lot of athletes up there, There's obviously Elway. He gets all the t-shirts of the team they played with like their name and number on the back and that's what he plays golf in every day. So he'll have Gretzky, you have a whole, even more, even more.

He found a few of those or not laying around. Yeah, everyone. In fact, if you even played college golf somewhere, I'd wear at SMU and his, put, you know, Colt on the back or if you play like JJ Dudum from Discovery, he was a place kicker for USC at one point. I don't know how much he kicked or if he was. Can we verify that? Walk on.

It could be a walkout. I'm not sure what it is, but I'll wear whoever's T-shirts. And that's what's great about Discovery Land properties is that you can wear T-shirts. I know it's not traditional golf people. No, it's great. You can get dusted by dudes in pickleball gear. Yeah, that's a great spot. It's a great place to be.

It is the best spot. All right. Well, we could go forever with this. But let's go to the emergency nine. You know this. Nine fun questions to learn even more about Raymond Whitney. Number one, we've changed this recently. You could trade lives with anyone in the world, dead or alive, for a day.

Who would it be? For a day. You want to be me? No, I don't want to be you. You're going to escape fat? You're fun. I'd want to be a rock star, to be honest. I think I like a kid rock or like a, you know, Bon Jo.

Somebody, and these guys, maybe, um, Montley Cruz lead singer, maybe Tommy Lee. Like, I want to be a heavy metal rock band. Huh? I want to be... Why would you want to be Tommy? Because I'd want to be... I'd want to be blessed with what he was toting between his legs,

and then a couple of the women. I mean, you know, there's many reasons why, but... Yeah, there's a lot of reasons. But I've always said if I was not an athlete, I would love to be a heavy metal rock star. I'd be dead by 50. I understand that because that's my nature.

I would... But what a ride. Well, what a ride it would be... Yeah. I mean, Keith Richards is still alive. I know Mr. Watt passed away. I don't know how he's still alive. So, I mean, I would be a rock star.

There's so much good medicine these days. Yeah, I'd find a way. Pretty much anything. Your Cotego, man. I feel like being is disappointed. Well, he knows I love country music, but I love crazy parties. Yeah, he wants to be a rock star. Yeah.

Being as humble as you are, I feel like we should just ask him, actor, play a movie about the life of Ray Whitney. Who do you got? Who's going to play me? Yeah. Oh, it's got to be. It's got to be Rob Lowe or Tom Cruise, one or the other. I was going to say the Rob Lowe was perfect. So, and to, yeah.

That's not like I pretty enough. Well, when I was in school, I did get those throwing at me. That you look like Rob Lowe? Yeah. What kind of school for freaking idiots did you go to? I know. I mean, there was two people for the blind. We had one high school. Yeah, you look like Rob, whoa.

Yeah, like I said, thank you. Yeah, thank you. Yeah. And those of you have never seen a good hockey film with Roblo in it, There's one called Youngblood. If you've never seen Youngblood. I have not seen it. It's Rob Lo is the hockey player, but it's a good junior.

It's about a junior hockey. It's pretty good. All right. Youngblood. Deep that. Yeah. Rob Lo. Roblo.

Roblo. As Ray Whitney. Okay. Here we go. All right. You've been inside the ropes twice as a caddy on the PGA tour, right? If you want to count the Olympics as a PGA tour. Once for Graham Gillette.

The ones for my guy Colt here at the waste management. Who's easier to caddy for after cadding for both of those guys? Graham. Why? Because Colt's a dick. I never said one thing to you. That's my point. That's my point.

What makes Colt hard to caddy for? Well, because he's... Big in here. You know, because here's why. We had two different yardage books. He has a... I have the current yardage book they give us. This is not true at all.

And he has one has different numbers on it. You had different numbers on here. So we're at and I'm looking... And he likes to go, you know, tour guys want to go to the front of the green. I'm like, just here, when I play you, I just give you a number. hit it. Yeah. You know, you grab your little range finder and you hit it.

155. 155 and you hit it. But now we got to find out, okay, we got to be 142 to the front and now we get 155. So then, and I got to be honest with, neither one of them were hard to be with. Colt was possibly your last one. It was going to be a lot. So there might be a little bit more stress with that.

In Graham, when we went to the Olympics, we had some fun. It was just a great experience. We were both going to enjoy it. I really wanted to make the cut with Colt on his possibly last one. And there was some pressure with that. I got to be honest with you. And I didn't want to be the guy to fudged up, you know. And then, of course, waste management, you're going to the 16th,

around there. And I'm going to walk in there with all these people. I'm like, I'm glad it's you hitting this shot. They were nervous. Was there catty races when you went? No, there was. But I made sure. But people were still doing it.

I could tell the crowd was doing it. You was rushing that. And I would, no, I knew they were, I knew they were still doing that so I would go and I would slow down and I would slow down and I could hear them murmuring that because I knew especially I don't think it's 10 11 12 they were they were really paying attention the one group there I would slow down and I start picking it up real fast and then I'd slow down I hear the crowd I felt like I was like a from the orchestra leading them up and go down Friday he's over there flexing his calves to the gallery okay let's get that straight right no to the gallery

Oh, to the gala. Just all 20,000 people. Yeah, some guys sit them all my cast. I did like a little Arnold Schwartz and kind of side pose and kind of flexed up to him. You probably walk on to 16, like, God, all these people are looking at me. I thought for sure they're there for me. Hey, I don't blame you, bro. I got it at Colonial.

I know, I know. So, and he, you know, I don't even remember, you know, cleaning off his ball or doing anything. I was just too busy looking around. How did my cat. Oh, I was just, oh, I was having a blast. But it's saying that, too, I almost came over the back on 18. Oh, yeah. team T-box.

Some jerk back there says something, you know, shitty about Colt or two of them about this. And it kind of was like when he was getting ready to hit. It was. I backed off. He backed off. And I looked, I read and I was like, I don't know. Do you want me to go, what? Do you want me to get into this guy?

Like, I'm not a fighter in hockey, but I'm pretty sure I can handle that guy. Like, I was pissed off for Colt. You know, like, he was playing well at the time too. And this guy's just being a jerk for no reason. And then I go, I know they get it. You guys get that a lot because people are. you know, you know, Bryson just got that after the loss yesterday. And some asshole said Brooks Heath to him as he's walking walking.

It's part of the game, I suppose. But that was, yeah, that was tough. Well, you mentioned you wanted to go fight the guy. Let's talk a little bit about, you know, we mentioned earlier how fighting is a great part of hockey. Yeah. What would you say? Your 22-year NHL career, what was your record in fighting? Zero.

Zero and zero? But you have one. I got in one. That sounds like O'N-1. I got to be, you know, so I was with San Jose. time we're in LA playing the Kings and I'm out there with a couple tough guys too and and I got into with this guy he's a check and now typically back in those days you know Canadian and US players we weren't too worried about the Europeans because they

don't fight a lot right so this guy hits me and I turn around I give him one he then he drills me right in the nose and he's six three but he's the European so I can have him so he's obviously weak so he's an inferior human you know and you know that changed over the years but yeah so I dropped the gloves and I and we we throw two or three and then my linemate who's actually really tough Owen Nolan he was a first overall traffic by the Quebec Narnik's he sees me in a fight with this guy six three so he waste no time he turns in and he comes in now they all start coming now there's 10 guys and it's a melee and they're all jumping in they're trying to protect me and I'm in there now the big

guys are fighting and I get out of this little pile and I go I see this guy I'm going to fight he's down the ground as his face is exposed so I'm going to go drill him I'm just going to give it to him he's vulnerable yeah he's vulnerable and I'm going to going to suck him and the ref at the time the linesman who he was six foot seven might be the strongest guy in the ice he sees what i'm going to do at the corner of his eye and he grabs my shirt with one hand while he's breaking up a fight in the other and he lifts me up my feet are turning and i can't get to this guy we can't be de gonzalez i can't not going anywhere right and then so he pulls me up long story short we all get thrown in the penalty box and the refs who

used to be a fighter in the minors he comes in he's going five for this guy five for that guy five for that guy. Whitney gets a double minor for roughing. And I'm like, no, that's a five. I need my first five minutes. For people to know, five minutes is fighting. Five minutes for fighting. Just like me, man.

So I'm like, that's a five. He stops, turns around and goes, first of all, that's not a fight. It goes, and then all you did was cause a shitstorm out of years. So I'm giving you a four. Yeah, he was so mad at me. He was mad at me for the next five, six games he played, just because I just caused a shit stir. So 22 years, you technically never went down in the books for a fight? No.

I did get called for a third. men in. A teammate of mine in Florida was getting his ass kicked and the linesmen were sitting around with their thumbs up their ass doing nothing. So I went and jumped in on this guy. Sucker punch. No, I just closed-lined him and pulled back in a chokehold and then I got kicked out of that game for that. But if you look at my career penalty minutes, it ends in an odd number. Perfect. And I didn't get five for that. I got five for. I went to play in the world championships for Canada. Played this and there's no fighting in the world championships in international hockey. So we're playing the Finns and this guy who plays the NHL for L.A., he's a real jerk, and he's acting like a tough guy

at the world. So I said, I'm going to get you next year. I'm going to get you next year. Next year. In the league. In the NHL. Sleep on that, buddy. I can't get you here.

So we played in M.A., and he lines up beside me, and I had already asked him to fight a couple times. No, and he's bigger to me, obviously, everybody was. I'm like, why would he fight me? Like, geez. You ask him? Yeah. That seems so weird.

And so the puck drops, and I, it was just in front of our bench, and I buried. about six inches of my butt end right in his stomach as hard as I could and he down he went he dropped he couldn't catch a breath he was choking down there himself and the linesman at the other side caught me doing it and I got a five I got a five minute major and game his conduct for it but I felt much better and now you handle player safety and now I'm player safety brilliant oh that's beautiful all right next one this is going to test I'm going to test your friendship with our good friend Mike commodore here You're driving in the middle of a snowstorm, okay? You see a guy stranded on the side of the highway,

it's hitchhiking, he's asking for a ride. That person is Mike Babcock. Do you give him a ride? No. That's the guy. That's the freaking guy. That's friendship. Do you personally have anything against Babcock,

or is that just strictly loyalty to Kami? That's loyalty to Kami. I didn't have any experiences with Mike Babcock. But after I left Detroit, the year I left, Mike Babcock took over. and there wasn't a lot of good things said about him from players I played with you before that was before Cami even got there

but Cami already had his experiences but no I'd be with Mike Cami I'd be with respect so all the shit Cami said like that's all justified it's all justified yeah okay I don't even know nothing about hockey or pretend to Mike Babcock he's on my Billy Madison list yeah no and especially me being with Mike Cometer having special place to my heart

it's it's 100% tough break Mike Mm-hmm. See you later. Puff it. It's 20 miles. Put the snow shoes on. Put the snow shoes on. Yeah.

All right. Next question. You have three wonderful kids. Yeah. One of them I'm terrified of. Yes. But what would you say is the biggest lie or fib you've ever told them? Oh, I've got many of them.

As any good dad does. As any good dad does. So when they were all, my youngest wasn't born yet, but the other two are of young age during elementary school. And we were watching, I don't know what we were watching, Olympics. We're watching something with the Olympics, and it was diving, was on. And I had my kids convinced that I was an Olympic diver for Canada, and my nickname was the Little Torpedo. There it is. A little torpedo.

And my kids were telling their friends at school. My dad's a little torpedo. My dad was, not he's a hockey player. My dad dove in the Olympics for Canada. They called him the Little Torpedo. And then as they got older, I always tell a story. I'd always tell a fib. They'd say about their school. I said, you know what, when I went to school, they used to call me the little Einstein. And it was, whatever it was, it was always the little. Yeah, the little.

Yeah. And then now my daughter, you know, obviously they got to an age. And then my son is who is nothing little about him. He's six foot five. You sure he's yours? Not positive by paying the bills. So I'm claiming. I've been meaning to tell you something.

Yeah. Yeah. So I asked Bridget, he was funny. He said that. He did ask my wife that about a year ago. That is unbelievable. He goes, hey, is dad really? me, my dad.

There's no way. And my wife, to her credit, he goes, well, if he's not, I sure missed a hell of a party because I don't remember it. That's too good. Oh, God. Your dad was the doctor. They called me the little brain surgeon. That's right. Yeah, wow, you did so many things.

Yeah, the little torpedo. I love that torpedoes, the diving thing. I mean, I don't fucking know. Yeah. And so to this day, I always put on the, the speedo. And I As a dad does And I would do a couple dives

And then You know I talked to them The Johnny ass cracker And you know So Johnny ass cracker Yeah

Instead of a cannonball It's just You throw your leg Straight outside You know Straight out and just land On your ass And we call it

In Canada We called the Johnny ass cracker And so I teach every kid that I call me the little ass cracker Yeah I can be Every kid that Yeah

Genius Yeah Yeah That's smart Yeah I love it Your kids will be so well Adjusted

All right Here we go Next one Got the fastest Fastest Hat Shring in NHL history is that far as I'm aware. One minute, 40 seconds. Is that why Bridget, God bless her?

He calls you the two-minute man. Is that where that came from? I think she called me that before that. Yeah. I think she called that before that. But that just solidified it. Yeah. You get a lot done in a minute 40.

I'll tell you what. Yeah, this thing moves. I move fast. A little torpedo, but I don't. Yeah. The little engine that could, man. I don't waste. I mean, there's so many times I feel bad for it.

There's so many times. God bless her. I just say I owe you one. She's the sweetheart. You know, she's the best. That's weird. I was talking about it earlier, but yeah. Yeah.

I was talking about it. Which is how lucky she was. Because. Yeah, because you're in front of you. She's lucky. I keep telling them that too. She's echoed different. Yeah, she probably has a different sentiment of that.

I mean, she goes, really? What's lucky about that? Yeah. I mean. But real quick on that hat trick, minute 40. Yeah. I mean, what the hell happened? Were they taking a dive?

I mean, is that even possible? No, so we were, we were in Boston. and Peter Lavillette. God. It's a great question. It's a great story. But he's one of my favorite coaches of all time. But he's from Boston.

So we'd go into town, always spend more days in Boston than we usually do on any other road trip. And it's almost, it's halfway through the game, half through the second period. And we're not playing very well. He tells our team services guy, we're not supposed to practice the next day. We have a scheduled day off. He goes, find me some ice here in Boston. I don't care where it is. It could be a high school.

These guys are going to get it tomorrow because that's how bad we're playing. And then I scored one, kind of just a bounce to me. I put it in. I stayed on the ice. I scored again. I go off the ice. He puts me right back out and I score for it. Now we're up.

Now after the second period, we're up 5'1 or 5'2. Practice is canceled. Practice is back canceled. And it was just kind of a freak thing. like there was nothing. It wasn't all me doing. A lot of it was me though because I put it in. Don't give credit to anyone else.

That was you putting it in. Yeah, that's right. But it was kind of surreal. I didn't realize it was that fast, but I should have because all of a sudden it happened just like that. But I think somebody just broke it this year. How does a coach Yanke? Like I don't, like I said,

don't pretend to know about hockey. If a guy in basketball or any other sport is filling it up, you don't pull them off the ice. Well, you can't stay out there. You get tired. Because it's, And he didn't take that long, though. It should have you got three in a minute 40.

How tired can you be? People ask you like, okay, how do you know when to change? How do you don't want to come off? I'm like, okay, I want you going to track, and I want you to sprint as hard as you can for 45 seconds. No problem. Okay, so you sprint for 45 seconds. No problem.

Now, can you go another 45 seconds? Probably not. Your legs fill up. And hockey, too. Every time you stop, it's like 4Gs going through your legs. It's just, it's a lot of force. And then you got a toe a guy like, you know, a little bit heavier in you. He's leaning on top of you.

your legs get heavy quickly. And so that's why that's why you change. So after the first two, they're like, okay, we'll get them off. They're getting tired. And then you gave me a shift off and then put me back out there with our line. And then we scored. So it was fast. And Bridget solidified her two-minute, whatever you called it, two-minute time.

Two-minute man. She always called you that. I never knew why. It was about the hat trick. I told you. As a hockey player, though, now I understand. Now you get it. I understand.

Number seven. All right. Obviously, you know, we played an individual sport. This doesn't really happen quite as much. But in team sports, I feel like there's a lot of pranking that goes on amongst the team. You're around each other all the time. You're traveling together. I heard you like to participate in a few pranks here and there.

What was the best one you ever did during your NHL career? The best one I did was in Florida. It was the last day of the season. We were missing the playoffs. It was our last official practice. We had a morning skate the next day before our last game, but that was it. My dad being in a policeman, and he was they have a thing called sneak powder. And sneak powder is used to be able to catch thieves within a,

in a company, you know, from the teal or something, you could dust some $100 bills down or dust whatever you want. And once you pick it up and you get this invisible dust on your hands, as soon as it gets wet, so the next time you wash your hands, you're in a shower, it turns bright purple. And it doesn't come off. It takes a week for it to come off. So he sent me a bag of it. And I thought, this would be great. I'm going to go in there. I got it nice and early. I got into the players underwear. And I did it. In Florida, people wore shorts and sandals to the game. So I put in five or six guys, socks. One guy I did head to toe.

Why that guy? Because he was one of my favorite guy. He was dating Nikki Taylor at the time. And he's a good-looking guy. He didn't drink. He was just a fun. Just kind of a serious guy, a good friend of mine, but I thought, oh, this would be great.

I'd love to see him walk out through the fans, just looking like Barney Purple. Like Barney Purple. So I did this to these guys, and we get out there on the ice, and we start skating. Now you start sweating. and after 10 minutes or first water break guys go to get a water and they take their hands out of their gloves and they go to, you know,

take a drink in their hands. They're turning purple. They're like, what the hell is? Like, what is it? And now I can't take a drink. I can't. I can't stop laughing, but I can't let them know I'm laughing. So I'm doing everything I can not.

Some guy's got a purple street across his forehead because he must have wiped his forehead after he put his socks on or something. He's got a purple street going across his forehead. And I cannot stop. I'm like, I can't practice. I basically couldn't practice. I was trying to get a man. So it was at our practice rank at the time.

time. So practice is over. Coach says, okay, we're done. Anybody wants to stay where I leave right away. I'm gone because I know what's going to happen. They're going to know it's me right away. I'm the first guy gets blamed for everything. And I don't even shower. I just put my clothes on. I'm like, I'll shower at home. I'm just jumping in my car and going. And everybody was doing the same thing. Everybody was coming off right behind me. I'm like, oh, shit. And now guys are taking their equipment off, taking their skates off.

And their white socks that they wear in their skates are Barney Purple. And they're like, what is, what the hell is? is this? I'm like, I don't know what's going on. I'm like, weird. I don't have it. I don't have it. And, you know, and then, so I go home and my phone was lighting up when I got home. These, they were going to kill me. I blamed the guy, a Hall of Famer, Dino Cicerelli, who hadn't been, he hadn't been in the lineup, but he showed up. I was blaming him the whole time. Like, it's got to be, you know, nothing's happened like this until he shows up. And, you know, and so, but there's nothing they could do about it because the next day was

a game day. And it was their last day of the season. So, they're purple all the next day. Oh, their feet were Barney purple. week? Well, if you wanted to sit into one-to-one bleach, you put your feet in a bucket of bleach for an hour and a half. That hurts a little bit. So a couple guys had. So the one dude was just head-to-toe purple.

Barney-Purdy. He was Barney-Torpe. Tough-Bri. His tackle-berry and everything was his... Tackleberry. Everything was purple. Oh, that's great. Can your dad still get this?

Oh, my gosh. We could use some of this. Is this still around? I would do everything. So if a guy just taped a stick and he put it beside. You know, he put it somewhere before practice. I always got, I was the last one in dress all the time. I'd just walk, grab their stick and move it.

And it wouldn't be much, but this guy, I'd be looking for five minutes for a stick before he went on the ice at practice. Or the trainer, the strength coach, I used to not like the strength coaches. I'd go into, I would take a drill, and I would drill their sneakers to the bottom of their, and, you know, their locker. And they'd go in the morning, they pull their sneakers out that's bolted to the floor. I mean, you're a little shith. Oh, yeah, I was the worst.

Yeah, you don't say. I was the worst. I mean, I was hard to believe. There's so many that I had, you know, I would cut guys stick so they would, you know, the first three shots it would take, it would break. Nice. They go grab another one. It would break.

I mean, I mean, it was just. And now you hand out punishment to guys in there. Yeah. It seems all like, yeah. It seems all right. Yeah, you're there. Everybody wants to have got two games, right? 12.

Yeah, 17. Let's hit them hard. Actually, yeah, let's teach him a lesson. All right. Is it my turn? All right. Confirm and I, prior to our hockey competition. and you actually pooped into the chin strap of my helmet.

There's not a smell on the planet. That was the whole strategy, but I'm convinced that you're like, I'm going to smoke this kid out. He's going to be too good. But if I can make him just kind of, if I can just weaken him over time with his a poop chin strap, I can actually be. There was not a poop chin strap.

It was the worst. It hadn't been washed in seven years. So our seven years, our boys, you know, they had their own locker room last year, but they do not wash their gear. You don't say.

They take it off. What I would make them do is wash the underwear that they put underneath it. But their actual hockey gear, we would try to, we get the disinfectants. We'd spray it down every couple days, but that's not getting it rid of the smell. I'm aware. It is bad. And I used to always think my gloves, I always thought my hands smell like popcorn. I thought my sweats and I would go home and say, hey, Bridges, smell my hands.

It smell like popcorn. Because you can't get it off you, like you said. It sticks with you a little bit. It sticks with you. And my wife, she disagreed. It does not smell like popcorn. It smells like shit. The helmet I had, which obviously I have the biggest kid's helmet on the team.

Because we tried five on before. I have a melon, dude. I didn't realize you. You're like a bison. Yeah, dude, I'm a large. There's a lot of brains. You know what they say about big heads. It's like a, yeah.

Yeah, big hats. Yeah, exactly. It's like a NASA launch center. I put that thing on. I was like, I don't know that I can stay conscious to get around the ring. It's so bad. It was the worst. Sports equipment is just the worst.

By far the worst. You got to get those. It's going to break. That rash you had, that would be the least of their concerns. Yeah, they'd be happy with that. Yeah. Well, this should lead into... I knew that was it. It was a conspiracy. This should lead into something really nice for our last question of the day.

Obviously, you mentioned earlier, line shifts, how they're pretty quick. You know, maybe a minute and a half, normal? No, 30, 30, 45. What would you say is the quickest line shift you ever had in your career? December 26, 2008. You don't remember? I had a nine-second shift to start the game. And

for what reason? I accidentally I thought I shit my pants Yeah there it is During the national anthem With a That's disrespectful

Yeah With a With a 16,000 people Standing up for the anthem singing And an honorary starter A 12 year old kid Who's full equipment

Standing beside me Those are you guys Who don't know The Canadian traditions Up in Canada For Christmas We eat a lot of cabbage rolls It's heavy Ukraine

hanging up there. So for two days, we had two days off for Christmas. We played it in the 23rd. We got 24, 25 off. We played Florida the 26th. I've been eating cabbage rolls for two days straight. So game time. I'm on the, you know, obviously cabbage does a lot of things to a lot of people. Usually it makes some gassy. So I'm going to sneak one out. And I did more than sneak one out. And for those you don't know, I wore compression shorts on my legs. So now these, these are tight shorts and I it wasn't a wasn't a wet part it was full blown I'm like oh no now what I didn't know if I was allowed to not start if I could leave or whatever the anthem ends everybody leaves normally you do a hot lap you kind of get your legs going again you know take a quick sip of

water do your trim step up I just lean forward on my skates and just kind of coasted to my starting line position you know he's just stood there but my chin's yep on like uh I'm very uncomfortable right know. So our guy, our centerman who wins the face off, we go D to D, he gets to the red line, he dumps it in, and I skate in there as hard as I can with my legs like two feet apart, not even coming near each other. I'm just chopping the ice. I take a swing of the puck. I turn, and I just chop my way right straight to the, right past the forward door to the defenseman door, which is the tunnel back to our locker room, straight to the locker room, straight to the handicap stalks. I need a lot of room to get undressed and trainers come running there. Are you okay?

They thought I pulled my groin again. I'm like, no, I just, I need a garbage bag. and a full new set of underwear. And I had to change, shower. By the time I came out, it was eight minutes left in the period. And, you know, I started the game. And there was eight minutes left. Hockey time, 12 minutes is like 20 minutes. It took me 20 minutes to come back in.

It's a lot of gear. A lot of gear to get all the way underrest, shower, all the way back on. I come back on the bench and walking behind the players in front of the coaches and, Laibuette. He goes, would you shit your pants? And I kind of looked at him like, Yep. And now he's dying laughing on the bench. He can't stop laughing for the rest of the period because he's looking down at me. He goes, what's the matter with you?

Nine second ship. I need one. Quick tap the helmet. Was it during no Canada or the spangled? Sing fast. Disrespectful. Sing faster. Yeah. Jogging out that high note. Whitney Houston. Ray, we love you. Dude, we love you. Dude, this has been awesome. Thank you so much. Thank you for having me, guys. I appreciate it. You guys are best. That was Ray Whitney on Golf Subpar. I mean, what a guy sleaze. How about him popping off to Matt Coocher? Yeah, perfect. Ray, we aren't on the ice, bud.

Yeah. You're the second best player at Gauzer. Yeah, exactly. That's just pretty much prototypical whiz. He ain't afraid to pop off to anybody. He's got some good game to back it up, but Matt Coochard, a little different ballgame than the club championship at Gauzer Ranch.

No doubt. But I mean, just think about, like, he had an unbelievable career. Over 1,000 points in the NHL. not many people have done that 22 years but for a little guy that did it more with speed and his skating i mean he's built for today's n hl where they don't hit you and fight as much yeah it seems like that type of game translates to this day's nachel a lot better than it was before and i'm just shocked that he played for so many different teams there's like short stints here short sense there's like the guy was putting up points every single place he went why is he not getting a long-term deal

somewhere it's like they kept moving him along but i guess like you know he's one of the guys that's the most quote unquote underappreciated nashel guy in history because he did put up so many points, but he's not brought up all that often. There was an article that once came out on ESPN said, top 10 worst players with a thousand points. I'm like, this is the shittiest article. And his face was the cover of the article. You're automatically, by definition, not a shitty player.

That's like, shittiest players to win three majors. They're not in any. But, like I said earlier, like he caddied for me in my last event. It was so cool to share that moment with him. He was so supportive out there. We had so much fun. I'll never forget. You know, I was right around that cut line on Friday.

I birdied seven to get what we thought was like one inside of it ended up being on it. I buried seven. He fist-pumped and he goes, way to give your balls a squeeze. I was like I'm pretty sure that's the first caddits ever said that to me. That's such hockey terminology. Yeah, exactly.

I feel like he'd be as a caddy because he's kind of for Graham to let too down at the Olympics. Like he almost, not that he has too much energy, but like if things start going well, like he'd, you know, hockey, they get fired up. And golf, you kind of need to stay like even kill. Like let's keep it going, all that type of stuff.

I feel like he's not of that mindset. If things are going good, you're going to know they're going really good. One of my favorite dudes on the planet, though, he is a blast. You think you're going to take another run at him? I'm not ruling it out. After spinning, you know, however long that was on ice, by the time I got done, I started to feel a little bit more comfortable out there. I think I could have a different strategy in terms of the hit.

The puck lifting, without practice, it's a no dice. Zero percent chance. I was shocked that I couldn't even get that thing in there, although the knuckle puck would have landed, which technically, by the rules that were in place, would have counted. but that was fun. We're going to re-release that video because it's been a while now since that took place, but we're going to go ahead and throw that back up there. A nice little documentary did on the entire day and all the bets that took place.

And shout out to Wiz for getting that done and just for getting in the ring and just taking some hits. That was like five years in the making. Yes, it was great. I loved seeing it. And by the way, he also won a Stanley Cup with our guy, Mike Commodore. What a team that must have been. It was like the Red Sox winning that big group of idiots and Mani was out there and left field. He would just disappear in the green monster and take a pister in the middle of the game.

I feel like that was the equivalent of it. that hurricane's team, like in hockey, just a bunch of idiots. Commodore walking around with his robe on, whiz playing pranks and popping up during the pregame interviews and all that stuff. I love the Where's Whitney? Yes. Yeah. And we also continued with another great shitting your pants story here on Golf Subpart. That is a constant theme.

If you're going to come on this show, please come with your best. I shit my pants or someone else shit their pants story. That's kind of one of our staples. Well, special thanks to our guy Ray Whitney for coming on. It was a lot of fun. Our longest interview today, too. The man can talk. We had a lot of fun with him.

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Like Ron, but that's not quite the return I look for if I'm picking an outright winner. And then that's going back to like early 2000. Tiger type of lines like three to one, four to one. Is there any worry about him maybe looking ahead a little bit? Because next week's the Ryder Cup. I mean, he's come off a long, a bunch of golf in a row, a bunch of good golf in a row. This is Napa. I always thought, like, talking to the guys, like, some guys, this is a popular one to bring

the wives to. They get to go out there and drink some wine. And it's kind of a way to ease into the season. It's not the most pressure-packed event on the PJ tour. But some guys, it's a huge opportunity. But I think Rom, like, I mean, with the Ryder Cup coming up and the stretch that he's been on, I'm not saying it's a pack-in-in type of week. I don't think Rom.

has Pack it in in his arsenal, but I also don't think it has his full attention like the playoffs at and the Ryder Cup will have. Yeah, and listen, this is a new season. Everybody starts at zero now. So great chance to get off to a really good start. You know, awesome golf course, Silverado Golf Club. Old school, pretty short, tight, can get really bouncy and firm. And like we said, John Rom, overwhelming favorite. We got Hideki Matsuyama in the field, Webb Simpson's in the field after not making the Ryder Cup team, a guy that should play really, really well around there, but I mean, I'm looking at it from a gambling perspective. And I like, I mean, obviously, it's hard to bet a guy at four and a half to one.

Yeah, it's almost, if you're picking a winner, like, I need more payback than that. So I'm going to go with a guy, 33 to 1. Could be arguably be the most popular win ever if he could get it done when he gets it done. HV3, Harold Varner III, loves this place. I think he's, you know, his game, he continues to get better every single year. I think the first win is coming soon. why not just get the 2021-22 season off with a bang and get the W right now, H-E-3? That would be a popular one, and that would be a good town to have it happen in out there.

There's a variety of activities you could get into there. HV-3, don't hate that pick at all. I'm going a little closer to the top of the board here, but I still think there's some pretty good value. Will Zalotor, by the way, shout out to him, just named the rookie of the year on the PJ Tour. Did not get to play in the FedEx Cup, which we can talk about later. I think that stinks, but he's going off at 21-1 to 1. I think that's pretty good value for a guy that's like top five in the world in terms of T to Green. you know narrow fairways ball strikers things like that you start to think of will's

i'll torres so i'm gonna go with him riding the mo of just getting named uh rookie of the year taking it into napa 21 to 1 that's a little nicer payoff than the old uh you know 4 or 4 and a half to 1 for then you get with john rom i'll tell you another guy like sneaky down the list he's around 60 to 1 at fandul ches rivey perfect golf course for ches rive very good golf course for him if we're doing sneakers i'll throw one in there as well 43 to 1 mark leishman who i believe finished third here last year good golf course firm it gets firm fast, bouncy golf courses. That's Mark Leashman's M-O. So Leash at 43-1 to 1. I think that's a pretty good play too. I can't wait. The new season is here. Let's get amongst it. Why not? Make sure you go

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