Subpar - Ricky Barnes Interview: Playing the Masters with Tiger and Phil, Breaking into Augusta National
Episode Date: August 18, 2020On this week's episode of GOLF's Subpar, PGA Tour pro Ricky Barnes joins former PGA Tour pro Colt Knost and his close friend and on course rival Drew Stoltz for an exclusive, in-studio interview. The ...winner of the 102nd U.S. Amateur talks playing with Tiger and Phil at the Masters, the time he broke into Augusta National while staying at the Crow's Nest, and being invited by Jay-Z to the opening of the 40/40 Club to party alongside Lebron James.
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Hello world. Welcome to another episode of Golf Subbar, Colt Nost, and Drew Stoltz.
We are getting ready for the FedEx Cup playoffs. But first, Leasy, we've got to talk about this Wyndham
Championship. Jim Herman. Yeah. Got the job done. Just barely left him off my picks last week.
He was right there on the edge. It was Jim Herman and I should have gone with it and would have
paid off nicely. Yeah, Jim Herman from the absolute top shelf there with a little 61, 63 on the weekend,
124. That'll get you done.
moves from 192 on the FedEx Cup standing. It's like 48 or something like that. So a huge week for him.
And cool to see like a guy like that is kind of quote unquote a journeyman go go and get a big event like
that, which, you know, changes his whole life. Billy Orch will be fine. I'll handle the numbers.
Since we're a team on the numbers, he moved to 54th in the FedEx. Fifty fourth. So fair enough.
But what an awesome win for him. Third career PJ Tour win has as many wins as Patrick Cantlay and
Tony Fienel combined. That just doesn't seem right. Does that not seem right? I mean, that is unbelievable.
of those two guys who get brought up every major championship.
You're going to hear their name of a million times leading in the FedEx Cup playoffs.
Like those two guys get brought up, he's got as many as those two combined.
That's crazy.
If there was a trivia question said, name as many three-time winners as you can on the PJ tour,
he would not be a guy that would be on many lists at all.
I'll tell you, when he gets around the lead, he gets the job done,
and it was a lot of fun to watch.
Congratulations to Jim Herman.
But there was another big golf event going on in the world.
The U.S. amateur.
Yes, near and dear to your heart.
Yes, it was.
And it was hard for me to watch this week as there was an SMU Mustang.
Ali Osborne in the mix.
Didn't get the job done, but what a huge win it was for back-to-back years for Georgia Tech.
Yeah, dude, Georgia Tech's got a stranglehold on that thing right now, back-to-back champions for them.
But what a match.
I mean, you and I were texting, you know, the morning 18 is not on television.
So you and I were texting.
We had a little bed on the side.
And Ollie Osborne gets up five at one point during the morning match.
I was like, dude, this thing could be over by the time.
Coverage starts.
Next thing you know, Tyler Stafachi comes back, only one down at the turn.
and then that second 18 was, I mean, there were so many swings back and forth.
That tournament is so fun to watch.
It was cool and had a really cool golf course, abandoned dunes.
The fog rolled in.
Kind of became a little bit of a mess for a few holes, but congratulations to Tyler Strafachi.
He's the 120th U.S. Amateur Champion and a life-changing moment for him.
So that's something he's really, really going to enjoy.
And they killed that.
Like the last two days, if you've ever been abandoned dunes, like it's supposed to blow 25, 30 miles an hour.
Excuse me, that's the way the course is set up.
And they got it the last two days with like very little wind, and those dudes went out in
made a shitload of birdies out there.
It was fun to watch.
Either way, we'll be seeing both of them at the U.S. Open and the Masters next year.
That'll be very, very exciting.
But now it's time to open up the mailbag.
Producer Mark, what do we got this week?
This one comes in from Bob's Bar on Instagram.
I like him already.
You want to know who's the best combination of drinker and golfer at your guys club, Whisper Rock.
Well, for me, that's a pretty easy answer, to be honest, sleazy.
The guy's very, very talented.
Finished runner-up in the U.S. Amateur back in the day to Danny Lee,
and that's my man Drew Kittleson.
The man can drink transfusions all day and shoot 65.
Every time he tees it up, it seems like.
God bless that, man.
One of the best talents I've ever seen
to not play on the PJ tour,
even to this day,
the way he hits driver off the deck,
sends it,
and he can absolutely hold his own
in the drinking category as well.
I'm going to go with the guy here.
I'll try to give a tour player
that I think does a good job of doing both,
and I don't think I'll get any argument from you here.
I'll go with Graham DeLette.
It's been a while since he's been healthy enough
to get out there and play,
but when he was,
and it's a couple of weeks off and he's got a little free time.
Graham ain't afraid to toss a few back and also go out and play some really good golf.
I'll throw Graham DeLette in the mix as like the tour player that's the best.
I'm kind of offended.
You didn't pick me.
You're former tour player and yours is not a secret.
They didn't say that.
Well, I'm offended you didn't pick me.
Should we just pick ourselves?
Let's do it over and I'll just pick you.
Yeah, that's true.
Golf he is.
All right.
Well, thank you for the questions.
Look forward to those.
Keep sending them in to golf subpar.
All right.
Sleasy, well, it's time to get into some funny money stories.
and we have a great one from this weekend
where you may or may not be
now be the world number one.
Yes, Colt, thank you so much.
Nicest thing you've ever said to me.
There was a long time there in my illustrious jickey Jack career
where I doubted myself.
Didn't know if I'd ever get to world number one
when I was at the Northeast, Southeast,
Kansas Invitational Open.
But this weekend it happened.
You and I teamed up against the great John Rom,
Kevin Chappell took them down hard.
Touched me one time on that,
destroyed them.
But in a little individual match,
myself, first current world number one,
John Rom just clipped him by a shot you know what I mean and I'm not a numbers guy but if you're number
one and you beat the number one where do you go to number one that's it so huge day for me very
impressive day very impressive day hopefully we didn't destroy the confidence of John Rom we'll see what
happens this week in the FedEx Cup playoffs but you might want to fade him for a little bit until he gets
his confidence back he's not he doesn't love losing whether it's for ten dollars or it's the
Sunday of the Masters my man does not like to lose in golf no he doesn't he actually threatened to drop
his wishbrook membership because we're not going his way
but the course design sucks everything i loved how things turned out our wallets got a little bigger your
head got a little bigger which didn't know hard to believe but uh it was a lot of fun sorry john and chappy
i love it through nine holes like at the end of nine holes our team was leading i i'd beat john by one on the
front you you shot 400 he shot four and i shot 500 and you come to me on the 10th fair way you're like
dude no matter what happens on the back nine we were talking about this on the pod i'm like yeah
100% if i shoot 52 on the back we're talking about this front nine where we put the wood to him we got rained
out in August in Arizona. Yeah, I was like, dude, do you guys feel that? It felt like lightning. Let's
call this thing. All right. Well, let's get to our special guest of the week. And that is our man,
Ricky Barnes. And what a fun interview this was. Dude, this one was fun, man. I mean, I think it's easy
to forget because it's been so long now. What a big deal he was coming out of college. Like he was
the it kid. Won the US Amateur, like yourself, came out, gets paired with Tiger Woods at the
Masters, beats him head to head. And then the floodgates open. And he's got some unbelievable,
some really, really good stories. Yeah. And I don't want to spoil any of them. So let's just get
right to it. Here's Ricky Barnes on golf subpar.
We now welcome on the pride of Stockton, California, long-time PJ Tour player, and the only
man to ever win the U.S. Amateur while wearing a button-up Tommy Bahama shirt on the 30% off
rack, Mr. Ricky Barnes. How we doing, brother? Good, you boys. By the way, fantastic.
Fellow U.S. Amateur champ. I know, dude. I knew this is going to come up, and I was like,
God damn it. They're going to talk about winning the average. I wish we had the trophies in here right now.
out of it. We actually, why do we not bring it and both drink out of it? This is just going to be a little
party between you two and I'm like, and we do have a friend in town that has one and bought one.
We should have. We should have. Ever heard of the Colorado am? It's a lot like the USM, but it's only
one state. So no big deal. Checkmate. A lot of legends from there. Checkmate. By the way. A lot tougher
courses than Oakland Hills and you would have no chance around Lakewood Country Club.
You mentioned the pride of Stockton, by the way. That's a very high honor considering the Diaz brothers.
Yes.
are from there.
And also, Ed, Toronto Blue Jays, guy.
Ed Sprague, Jr.
Ed Sprague.
There he is.
Old Eddie.
Yes.
From Stockton.
Well, that's the trivia question.
I think I told the boys.
Who's the only player to ever win a World Series, a college world series, and an Olympic
gold medal?
Really?
Ed Sprague.
Stockton, Cow.
Stockton, C.
Stockton, C.
Damn, you guys do put us in dudes.
Diaz is from there.
You ever run into the Diaz boys when you were running around there?
No, they're a little younger.
And then, yeah.
A good buddy of mine does kind of like
Djitoo and goes to his, I guess,
gym academy.
I feel like Nate would be really big into golf.
They seem like golfers.
But different.
Surprise they don't play your charity event up there.
Yeah, you go there once and like Colton,
all the rest of the boys that have come and help support
the charity event.
They're like, uh, preppy white golfer coming out of Stockton.
Yep, no, that doesn't check all the boxes.
Yeah. I've been there several times.
I've had a blast every time.
I'm normally really hung over trying to play.
Real quick story, the first time I went and played a Ricky's charity event,
We were coming from Las Vegas, and Ricky had a plane for us set up.
I was in one of the last groups, actually playing well in Vegas somehow.
Finish double bogey, triple boge, Sunday to finish 12th.
Okay?
The old double triple finish.
Rough start, a rough finish.
I'm obviously not happy.
Pull up to the plane.
There's a flight attendant standing outside with a tray and a shot.
She goes, I think this is for you.
Did you have that queued up for him?
Oh, yeah.
Oh, everyone did.
We didn't even say anything to him.
He took the shot, took a number.
Another one is a, where's my drink?
All right, you guys can take off now.
So then the flight is left.
Well, I didn't even get down in my seat and Charlie Hoffman goes, nice finish.
I mean, couldn't even wait.
But anyways, I mean, we drink all night, just hammered, show up the next morning.
We're doing a clinic at like 8 a.m.
In the range, there's not a ton of grass, a little sandy.
And Ricky, knowing I'm just hurting over there.
He goes, cool, why don't you show us that at some fairway woods off the ground?
And I'm over there just shaking.
Like, oh, God.
It was fair enough.
We played gin until about midnight.
And it was 10.30 to clinic.
Well, after finishing double bogey and triple bogey and taking about 100 shots, it felt like six in the morning.
The one shot ain't going to take off the sting from double triple finish.
I thought there might be a bottle sitting there, but nice of you guys to have that cute out for my guy.
Let's get into it, though.
2002 U.S. Amateur champ at Oakland Hills.
By the way, you played six people in matchplay, five of them played on the PJ Tour.
You know, me and your brother were talking about this.
Like some guys can coast through and get lucky with who they play.
You played some studs.
Yeah, I think it was five years ago or four years ago, if you look.
of the six guys that I played were on tour all at the same time. And like you said, and the biggest
stat of that whole thing, 312 guys, I think, start the U.S. Amateur. That's two of the guys that
played in the stroke play event met in the finals. And I can guarantee you that's never happened
again. Oh, wow. I played with Hunter Mayhan in the stroke play. You guys got paired together in the
stroke play? And then that's who you beat in the finals, right? Yeah. And we were probably both,
you know, top five going into it. Yeah, sure. And usually they don't kind of do that. They
spread you out and play with other AMs or mid-AMs or, you know, juniors, it seems like.
And, yeah, play the stroke play event together, met in the finals.
That's wild.
You guys shared the, didn't you share the Hogan Award?
Was it the year before that or the year after, the following year?
Yeah, so you go there and, when's that term, in March?
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, so then we shared it in March the following year.
That November with DJ Cherryhand, we won the World Amateur in Malaysia.
Speaking of hot.
Oh, man, been there.
Yeah.
And I said.
That's wow.
Was Hunter, you're like, I know that's who you beat in the finals?
You guys were kind of the two guys coming out of that class.
Was he your main, like, quote-unquote, rival?
I'm sure it sounds like you guys were friendly, but...
He was a year younger.
It was really weird because that whole summer, I say whole summer.
You play, like, three big events.
My parents let me go playing.
You play in the Western.
You play in Porter Cup.
You play in Northeast Amateur.
And then if you get into the U.S. amateur, you're lucky enough.
And I was hanging out with Bill Haas.
Like, that whole summer we'd hang.
And the Players Cup.
What was called?
Players Amateur?
in Southern California or in South Carolina.
Players am.
Players am at Belfer.
I couldn't think of the name.
And we hung out, you know, and then I met Bill in the semis.
And you know, like, if you're 21 years old, you're playing in the U.S. Amateur,
and you win the semis, you're like, I'm going to Augusta.
It's almost like a weight off your shoulder for me going into that final round.
And then I beat Bill, like, on the 18th hole.
Bill was a beast in college, too.
And they were both a year younger than me, Bill and Hunter.
And I had two big matchplayed things.
coming up. And the other guys that I'd play was Brett Stegmeier, who's been on tour,
played Daniel Summer Hayes, was a really good U.S. Junior.
Spencer Levine in the quarters.
You played Spencer in the quarters?
Yeah.
You knocked out some boys, man.
That's some players, dude.
And then Bill and Hunter, who were the probably two top guys the year behind me in college.
If you look at the two studs coming out, Wake Forest, Oklahoma State, there they were,
and I played semis and finals versus them.
Who was better at throwing clubs?
You were Spencer Levine.
Oh, Spence.
Not even.
What are you had some history?
throwing some clubs.
Hitting the bag.
Hitting the bag.
I heard at the USAM you won, the putter missed the bag,
and you almost had to play a couple holes without the putter.
On second round, stroke play.
Stroke play.
Threw out the bag and missed?
Second round, yeah.
On the north course.
That's so weird, dude, because it went a little ways away towards the gallery,
and Andy just kept on going.
There was no gallery.
Oh, really?
Towards the gallery.
Yes.
Okay.
Yeah.
That's weird because, like, I mean, do you live out here?
We play infinite rounds of golf together.
You are like a not.
get angry. I never see like the angry so maybe you got over that but like that was you back in
college you were club thrower guy just competition you know like we're all fierce competitors and
heat of the moment stuff right I mean not that I've gotten much better with it but you know
family everything else and they get a competitive golf and then looking at people that you looked up to
play in professional sports and how they act I feel like you know because even early on in my
professional career I've getting pissed and cursed and
through a club or slammed a club but yeah at college i think it's just one of those things you do it
and you're like why the fuck did i just do that it doesn't help but you can't no you can't and you're
you're just like you're so mad but that wasn't the way i should have done you think it looked cool back
in the day when you're younger i feel like now you're like oh my god i'm like an idiot you beat the bag
and it makes a huge echo and you're like oh shit i if you're paying hofer bag didn't have like
yeah seven you weren't that cool if it wasn't shaped like the letter ass i was like this guy's
nothing dude he's never he sucks he's not even competitor yeah he's not he's not even competitor yeah he's
He's the number five player.
Yeah.
Nobody was better than Spence.
That's why people love Spence even on the PJ Tour because, dude, he's got the one of him
punting his eyes.
Dude, it's an all-time iconic meme or whatever you call it on that.
Number 11 at Aronamac I never forget.
He was the best.
I played with him at tournament.
He was in the group in front of me at Tucson National, your spot down in Tucson.
We're playing a tournament.
He was last off in his group.
I was playing right behind us.
We're talking before.
We're having a good time.
He gets up there.
I'm sorry.
We're playing the same group.
First, holy tits it right down the middle, plugs it in a bunker, makes a double bogey.
takes the flag, javelins out his bag, he misses his bag, but then he gets it and starts beating
his bag with the pin, goes and puts it in, takes his visor off on the bridge on two, crumples it
up, throws it down on the thing, plays 36 whole day, by the way, we're playing together,
wears no visor in Tucson, it's 100, it plays 36 holes, plays the rest of the 35, flawless,
he's in like second at the end of the day, but did the meltdown on one hole, first hole?
I was like, dude, this is the best shit I've ever seen my life.
The fair ways that Spencer Levine and Coltonose could hit together are pretty amazing.
It's kind of just that flat roller moves three yards each way.
And I kind of knew it because I grew up.
He was in Elk Grove, Sacramento area.
I was in Stockton.
And that course, I felt like if I drove it well, you know, I end up playing in the Yosam,
that I had the advantage, kind of take it over some corners and stuff like that.
That was a long course.
But, I mean, Spence was a good player.
Oh, man.
It was so good.
Where is that shirt, though?
We talked about that shirt.
The Hawaiian shirt made big news.
You had the copper top head at the time.
I just played Rocket Mortgage.
I always get the question, where is the shirt?
And I went and stayed with my host family that hosted me during the U.S. Amateur.
And it's there.
You still have it?
It's at Oakland Hills.
Oh, it's there.
It's at the golf course.
So they have like all the major champions they consider USAM as a major champion.
And they have all these like slots, Jack Nicholas, Palmer player,
Barnes.
Steve Jones, all the guys that won there.
And yeah, so Barnes is my pitcher, my shirt.
And then like the trophy that they have.
Did you have that one saved up?
like this is my final shirt. I cannot wear this unless I get to the finals. And then I packed it in the
bag because I made the finals. And I was like, ah, in the morning. And it was getting kind of hot in Michigan
that afternoon. And I played the morning round, played solid. I think I was one or two up. And I went
and took a shower, came out to eat lunch and had the shirt on. I'll never, I'll never forget
it. Like I had no idea who you were back. Like I didn't, we didn't know each other back then.
I mean, that was 02. I was in high school. But I remember watching and I'm like, who the
fuck is this guy? It looked like Jimmy Buffett fucked M&M.
And I knew Hunter Mayhem, you know, being from McKinney around Dallas.
So I was kind of rooting for Hunter, but I'm like, well, because this cloud.
Now it's the name.
It's Jimmy Buffett meets Ellen DeGeneres.
Oh, that's good, too.
Yeah, I like that.
Let's go back to the beginning, though, with your childhood.
Because you don't have many nicknames.
I mean, Barnsie, whatever, Rick, none of that.
But a lot of people call you snacks from your childhood.
Can you explain that a little bit?
Oh, man.
Yeah.
Well, you saw what I brought in.
the Yeti, but I was a big boy.
If I had my phone right now, and I can honestly show you a picture.
I got it.
With your approval, it would go on the internet.
So I've been working the last six, eight months with Boyd Summerhays.
Boyd Summerhays made a post today on Instagram.
Yeah, I saw it.
So he didn't really know.
So I said, hey, I text him on the site.
I might be able to one up you with this pitcher.
And I sent it to him.
and he sent me two 35-second voiceovers that is just laughing and laughing, laughing.
He's like, are you kidding me?
Please, please, please.
Let me post this and tag me in it.
And I haven't done it yet.
So I'm known as snacks.
I'll never forget.
Actually, I met my brother's wedding.
And Rick LaRose is the college coach.
He had my brother, Andy, for four years, and he had me for four years.
And I end up winning my senior year.
athlete of the year. So he gets up there and LaRose came to visit my brother and I'd have been
14 or 15 years old, you know, going in to be a freshman and he's going to go be a freshman in college
and he gives me and he comes in the house and he surprises me and I'm like, you know, changing my
shirt but I have my underwear. I'm going to, so he's at my brother's wedding and he's announcing.
He's like, yeah, you know, this, that. And I'm so happy for you to meet Erica and get married
today and, you know, your younger brother when I first saw him. And now he's carrying this over to
the senior awards banquet.
And the first time I ever met Ricky was when he was 14 or 15 years old.
And the only thing he was winning was the Snickers Olympics.
And the whole place, I mean, whatever your athletic facility holds and everything,
and they burst up laughing.
If you saw my seventh and eighth grade graduation pictures, you would know why.
That's kind of always, I know you guys answer this question.
What would be the biggest two things that people didn't know about me?
I was very overweight as a kid.
I was the biggest,
fattest kid on the offensive line
when I was a freshman in high school,
left tackle.
I lost 70 pounds in six months.
It became a tight end,
starting getting in the gym,
working out, eating a little healthier.
A little healthier.
70 pounds and six months.
I feel like I grew two inches.
Like, I was a skinny kid and they grew into this.
I made you look like Justin Thomas back in the day.
That is awesome.
Well,
that leads me to my next one because you are always a great athlete.
You said you played football.
played soccer, Little League.
People around Stockton say you hit around 700 in Little League.
And you were also famous for turning doubles into singles.
But then clear the fence, it was a single.
I will say, I am that kid.
I was so, this is, how, you know, like Jeff Foxworthy, how fat were you?
I got thrown out at first base from right field.
That's how fat you were.
He got a single on ground rule doubles.
Bounce over the fit.
No, dude, I'm stopping it first.
I'm a little winded.
Just give me a single.
And props to my parents when I,
was a good, you know, like I said, I could kind of rake, good hand-eye coordination.
And freshman year, guy calls me golf and baseball in the same season in California.
Baseball coach calls me.
Hey, Rick, it's all you're not signed up for tryouts.
Coach, kind of talked to my parents.
I think I'm just going to play golf.
Really?
It's like, let me do you favor.
What days are golf?
I'm like, Tuesday, Thursday.
It's like, perfect.
Baseball's Wednesday, Friday.
It's like, come out to tryouts, playing the games.
Come to practice when you can't.
hang up the phone as a 14-year-old.
Mom, Dad, Coach Hall said that you can go, you know, play.
My boat.
Play boat.
No, Ricky, you're not that kid.
Oh, sorry, coach.
He's like, hey, but you just played, you know, the whole year, played Babe Ruth and All-Stars.
We made it to, like, sections or whatever it was of Northern California.
You know, you batted, it was something crazy, you know, 580 or something like that, 620.
And he's like, you got to play.
You know, first baseman, so-and-so's this.
and I was like, oh, coach, you know, my parents did it.
And then now I look back on it.
You're like, could you imagine like that kid that doesn't come to practice,
gets to start pitching and start at first base?
Like, so at the time, you didn't grasp it.
And then by sophomore junior year, I was like, okay, now I know my parents didn't think.
I didn't have any coaches from other sports asking me to come from anything else.
It's the basketball coach.
I think we can make a nice power guard.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'll just stick a guy.
Mark Jackson, played with you back to the basket.
What prompted like the whole like 70 pounds of six months?
That ain't by accident.
What prompted all that?
Was that you saying, hey, oh, I want to get skinny?
Or was that, like, your parents or somebody else saying you need to lose weight?
I kind of contributed to three things.
So my mom was a big health nut.
Colts met my mom, but my mom's, like, really into fitness.
My mom was a school teacher.
She ran five and a half, six miles every morning growing up.
I'd show up to school and six or seven people.
Oh, I saw your mom running this morning.
But my mom always had healthy stuff around.
But my thing was just overeating, right?
Like you'd go get a plate, and then you'd come back and get a half a plate.
plate, whatever. So prompted, you get into high school. I hit puberty late. So probably the
girl influence was a little bit athletic and getting slower, getting thrown out at first base,
and eighth grade hitting, you know, a gap shot to right center and they're still throwing you at
first base. You get in, you need a puffer to get to second. Get some oxygen. Yeah, a little bit of
that. And then I think just realizing what I needed to do, you know. And so I always tell people,
you know, how'd you do it? Well, I just,
really disciplined in eating.
And then when you got home for dinner,
eat whatever my mom cooked or dad cooked,
put it on one plate.
And when you were done,
I wouldn't brush my teeth.
After you brush your teeth,
you really don't feel like having another drink.
Everything tastes like shit after you brush your teeth.
And that is just discipline.
So then it just kept on going.
And, you know,
235 became 215,
215 became under 200.
Before I know it,
I was like, okay, healthy lifestyle,
working out.
And it was just as much kind of working out,
everything.
But it wasn't an outlier.
It wasn't like, hey, you know, you're not in the in crowd,
tried to get in crowd because you're fat and trying to get skinny.
I mean, I was playing three sports, and I was starting at three sports.
So, you know, it wasn't like, hey, he's the last guy on the bench trying to get called in.
Hey, starting on the football team.
He's an unbelievable, you know, baseball player, golf or basketball player.
Like, I did all the main sports.
So it was just mainly like a lifestyle thing.
And I think growing up, I just know what I needed to do probably to get to the next level now that I look back on it.
And now you're a freak.
I mean, we played pickleball for the last two hours just the day, and it's 115.
And Scott Sells says, it's 130 on the pavement.
And you're the only dude, after one game.
It's like, all right, I'm ready.
Let's play a second one.
We're like, dude, nope, need oxygen, need an IV.
We'll meet you back out there.
Ricky's like, let's go.
Let's play another one.
Now you're an absolute monster.
So that's a pretty incredible transformation.
But, dude, we got to talk about the masters because we're talking about the US
amateur.
You win it.
Obviously, one of the perks of that is you get paired with the reigning champion.
And when you got paired with it, the reigning champion was a guy named Eldrick Tiger
Woods and you go to Augusta and have an unbelievable showing with Tiger and I feel like that's
when you're like fame that's when I started to learn about you you know I was going to school in
TCU at the time didn't really I didn't know you personally like I do now but that's when it all
took off and you go show up on the first D and you're playing with Tiger Woods but talk a little bit
about that master's and what that was like because you had some cool experiences in that yeah so
I win the AM I go and everything kind of blended together right so it was so I win it going into my
I win the U.S. Amateur going into my senior year.
Then I go to Malaysia for the World Amateur.
We win.
Early November, I play in the Tucson Open, and I finish like top 14 or top 16.
I'm like, I'm there.
You know, probably six shots off the lead or whatever, but like, I'm there.
Go into April, and I'm paired with Tiger Woods.
And go out, that first round, you know, walk across the street, get on the putting green.
haven't met Tiger yet.
But I feel like I played nine holes with Arnold Palmer
before they play their big three,
part three contest.
And I seriously think I was just as nervous
to ching off with,
I think it was Arnold's last or second last masters,
with him.
And I'm on the first tee,
and they're lined up tenfolds down the fairway
on the first tee,
and I get to play with Arnold.
So I was just as nervous that day
as I think the next day playing with Tiger.
But Tiger came over with the Punding Green.
Hey, Rick, how's it going?
I look forward to today.
Maybe settled me down a little bit
and, you know, it's a blur.
I mean, Colt can kind of tell you, you get there.
No, I can't.
Colt passed.
I didn't go, remember?
I know.
Colt said, nah.
Taking jabs at the host, that's not fair.
Yeah, we're going to, it's our show.
It's going to get jabs to you.
Yeah, it's going to get blood.
Remember, I got a lot of dirt right here.
I'll be here.
I know.
No, so I shoot 69 the first round, and that kind of settled me down.
But Tiger shot 76, by the way.
You beat about seven.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, you know, it's kind of a blur.
You're staying in the crow's nest.
You're hanging out with everybody.
We're going to get to that.
Okay.
And it was just such a fun time.
The course did set up good for me.
I was kind of a long hitter back in college.
I liked the draw fit my eye.
I don't draw as much as that, but that fit my eye.
And I felt comfortable out there for the most part.
And I never forget.
My brother said a quote.
I think it was after a second or a third round.
as in like second place or something like that and my brother's like yeah he's just stupid enough
that he could win this thing there you go I'd brotherly love and I'm like watching the TV and I think
like there was a quote on it and like the local Augusta TV instead of like ESPN or someone else
golf channel that was covering it and I'm like god dang he's probably right but oh well we're sitting up
there and my college roommates got somehow got the room to the crowsness number and it's like
1140 I'm just coming in as you know um and
The phone rings, and I'm like, who's calling?
And he's, hey, Rick, because it's only 840 on the West Coast.
Hey, what are you doing?
I'm like, I'm about to go to bed.
He's like, oh, yeah, just seeing, who let you through?
He's like, oh, yeah, we got the number.
This is back in 0, oh, was that, 0, 03?
Oh, 3.
Like, who's letting you guys call the crow's desk to get up to, I mean,
guess they didn't know that Ricky Barnes was staying there.
He was my college roommate, Ricky Henderson back in, you know, he's,
we were on, like, a top three University of Arizona basketball team,
but it was fun.
And I parlayed it into playing the U.S. Open with him.
And I feel like there's something when people do play.
I've had a good track record playing with Tiger
is that the ambiance and the way they maybe line the fairways with him
or set the stage with him,
that it's almost like I understand why he plays well all the time.
Like you have to get super focused with 35,000 people
watching you on a Thursday at a normal tournament.
Cisleas. You're as talented. You didn't have the gallery.
I didn't have the galleries, dude. That was my one issue. Thank you for acknowledging.
You're welcome. Because that was the one thing holding the jickeys. I was like, oh, there's a maintenance guy up there. I got to hit a good shot. I'm freaking out.
The guy didn't he put the pin back in.
They were like mowing the greens while I was trying to hit my approach shot. I was like, oh, dude, I'm freaking out. Going back to Augusta, you were in the next to last group on Saturday with Phil Mickelson.
Yeah. Okay. That's what I was going to comment it on. So I go, I go Tiger, Tiger, Phil.
To-sum.
Arnie practice round.
Arnie Tiger, Tiger, Phil.
Arnie practice round.
And I was literally telling these guys where I live in the summer at Marta's camp
and they were asking kind of master stories or, hey, this guy told me this story about you.
And I go, you can't make that up.
I literally went Wednesday, we skipped Thursday, but like Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday.
Arney with Vijay.
Actually, VJ joined us like the last six holes.
Scrub.
R.D. VJ.
Tiger on Hulk Cabrera, legend.
Phil Mickelson, and then another legend Sunday, Chris Riley.
Oh, wow.
The best.
Just the top.
That might be at the top of us.
I know.
Chris Riley.
Fastest round ever.
Yeah, you won't be on the clock with Chris Riley.
Never.
But that's, I mean, what were those nerves like Saturday?
I mean, in the next last group, I believe you're tied for third.
I mean, you're right in this thing.
Mike, we had a big lead, but you're a shot out of second.
So I ended up making the turn.
I shot one or two under on the front nine with Phil, and I was,
two off the lead in second place alone or tied second after, what's that, 45 holes.
Par 10, par 11, pins dead middle on 12, hits over the bunker, kicks forward a yard,
you got an eight-footer, comes back in the bunker, hit it to the back fringe, three-putt double.
So I make double on 12 without hitting into the water.
Don't make another, don't make a birdie on the way in.
I think I make another bogey.
and, you know, turn up, let's just call it a 70, you know, give or take, into like a 74.
I think I shot on Saturday.
So I went from being in second place or third place, you know, because guys make birdies on 13, 15, whatever,
into, I think, like 18th going into Sunday.
Kind of, not that it took the wind out of my sails, but taking the wind out of winning, you know,
because let's say if I was two off the lead, you should even on the back or one under,
let's say I'm three out of the lead, you know, or four.
Like there's always a chance.
An amateur you got nothing to lose.
And I was driving it unbelievable.
I was, you know, converting on everything,
meaning if I was up near the green,
it was either getting up and down for birdies
or converting on, you know, 12 foot, 15 foot or closer, you know, on the green.
And it sucked, but I tell you what, it was awesome.
And then I carried it over to the next two times that I finally got back as a pro.
That course fits my eye.
I've played well there.
I think my worst finish is 20th or 20th.
first.
You should play there more often.
Give me an invite.
Get a sponsor into that thing.
Talk about the crows nest though a little bit because that's where obviously
where all the amateurs stay.
It's, you know, guys are in there.
I'm assuming they're getting tucked in early, laying out their outfits for the next day.
But one night in particular, because I know you've told me this story, you decide you need
to go out and get a little taste of the Augustine nightlife and eventually end up potentially
maybe hopping the fence at Augustine National to get back in.
Just go through that because that's gnarly story.
Well, you're trying to get him never invited back again?
I didn't, I want to know who knows about this.
This one won't get me in trouble.
He's told this.
It's okay.
So, Friday.
Okay, so I'm heated Saturday night.
My family has a house off property.
So I drive the car, go have dinner with them.
But we were finishing so late.
So I just went up to.
So Saturday night, like I said, kind of went out of the sales, didn't finish right.
I come back.
The British Amateur champ, Alex La Rutherball, had just got back.
Pablo on the European tour's brother, older brother, he won the British Amateur.
And he comes back, what are you doing?
I'm like, oh, dude, I need to blow off some steam.
Let's go out.
All right, so we go out.
So I go out to this.
I've told Drew this is that go out to this.
There's like two bars there.
Yeah.
So we go to one.
He's like, what are we going to do?
And there's 15 people online.
I'm like, hey, do you have your pass?
Like, what?
He's like, I'm like, you got your ID and your pass to get into Augusta this week?
He's like, yeah, I'm like, give it to me.
So I go up to the front of the line and I say, hey,
We're playing in the tournament this week.
Can you let us in?
He's like, oh, Ricky?
I'm like, yeah, no, my buddy Alex's right here.
He's like, oh, yeah, come in.
So he lets us right in.
Perfect.
So we go in there, have a great fun, fun night, Saturday night.
Next night, got to skip a few details on that night.
Sunday night, I go out, families there, hang out.
And I ended up getting home that night.
I think Alex, I got a cabbed at home or something Saturday night.
But anyway, Sunday night, same thing.
go out.
I end up getting low amateur.
I'm eating with Mike Weir, his family,
my parents at the Champions dinner
because they let you go.
He picks the wine,
but you get to go have dinner
with the low amateur gets to eat with them.
Did not know that.
Yeah.
Well, if you would have gone, you'd want.
True.
So we go, do all that thing.
So we go out.
So there's a bar just down the road again,
and we go out.
So now I'm just with like my family
and my cousins and we're drinking,
drinking.
Well, we look down.
It's one thing.
30 a.m. or 2 o'clock. I'm like, all right, we got to go. I'm flying home the next day.
Going to go back to normal college life. And I get back to the front gate and get dropped off.
The gate's closed. Nothing. I'm like, oh, let's go. So I'll never forget it. I look right.
I look left and I'm like, here we go. Hop the brick, hop the brick stone wall. Get over.
And I am, I mean, I'm absolutely wasted yogging down Magnolia Lane thinking that,
Someone is going to shoot you.
So I walk in and the lady's theirs and I'm out of breath.
She's like, what do you do?
I'm like, the gate was closed.
She's like, oh, yeah, yeah.
Sunday nights, we closed it at whatever, you know, midnight.
I was like, oh, I wish I would have known that.
I just ran down Magnolia Lane.
She's like, okay.
So the best part of the story is I go upstairs and he'll kill me for saying this.
But Alex is the only one's still there.
And it's only us too.
And we're both blasted.
He was out with his family.
I'm back with mine.
You don't have to whisper.
Oh, sorry.
You can talk normal.
They're still going to hear it.
Don't tell anybody.
And so we walk down the crow's nest and there's a telephone booth and we walk left and you keep going around.
It's the champion's locker room.
And Alex goes right into Seve's locker.
He's got Seve's green jacket on.
Oh, my God.
Oh, yeah.
And there's a bar in there.
And he's like, what do you want?
And he goes, gray goose.
Another cup of ice, gray goose.
And I'm like, what is the squirder working?
I'm like, yeah, give us some sprites.
So squirt's straight.
He's like, who's your favorite player?
I'm like, ah, I grew up a Jack fan.
He's like, you got to wear his jacket.
I'm like, oh, no way.
He's like, you got to wear it.
I'm like, no way.
I'm like, no, no, no.
I think I have like the master's robe on that they give you up in the crow's nest.
But I'm not putting on Jack's right.
But he's just cruising around.
He's got, he's pouring drinks.
With Seve's jacket?
A hundred percent.
And we drink until, who knows when at this point,
because now we're both the, but yeah, true story.
Alex.
That is unbelievable.
I assume they just had snipers on the roof there.
That's what I thought.
I thought someone was tacked off on the way.
Does anyone else know that at Augusta that happened other than you and Alex?
Oh, no, no.
The lady at the front desk because I told her.
And I'm like, I mean, I come in probably like at the end of the day.
I'm just sweaty.
That's the story, dude.
That is a great story.
I told you.
That's a real deal.
This dude wore Seve's green jacket.
And he can tell you this because.
Okay.
That's 2003, 2011, true story.
He is catting for Jose Maria Ola Fable in the Masters.
And I go over to him on the range and I'm, you know, with him.
He's like, no, no, no, you can't tell him that story.
And I said, well, I know what happened that Sunday night, don't you?
And he started laughing.
That is awesome.
Yeah.
So fast forward.
What would have been, yeah, like eight, seven or eight years, I ran into him.
And, oh, we had a blast that week.
He was the first guy to congratulate me after I played Friday and Saturday.
And he had a great story on 12.
His younger brother, who's now won on the European tour, like three or four times.
He's on 12 on Friday.
He's way out of the cut line.
And the pin's front left.
Rinses it.
Rinses it.
Rinses it.
His brother's like, no, no, no, no, no.
Get the A-Daron.
He's like, no, give me the ball.
He has two balls left.
He has 13, 15, 16 left.
And his brother's like, no, no, no, gets it.
hits it like two feet taps it in goes rinses it on i think 15 and his brother's like you cannot
hit the ball in the water on 16 you won't finish the tournament so so he finishes the tournament
but yeah he did front left with one ball well you mentioned playing golf a little banged up after
a few cocktails at night who's the best hangover hungover golfer you know oh dude best hungover
I heard you were good back to your day.
Oh, I was going to say, I, North East Sam or me.
Yeah, you can say you.
Well, I heard a different one.
Okay.
I heard the college event at Southern Highlands.
Yes.
Oh, yes.
Your roommate might have been our good friend Andy Medley.
Oh, yeah.
Well, this is a good story too, dude.
Okay, I can tell it now.
Yeah.
Well, I can't tell the whole thing.
You can tell part of it.
Protect identities.
I was dry heaving on the way.
Well, I, yeah, geez, what can I tell?
Okay, yeah, I was dry heaving, and I told coach to pull over the van.
He said no.
And coming into the southern highlands, there's bumps.
Like you're going in Arcadia and Arizona.
And there's bumps.
He's like, no, no, no.
I get right out of the van and a heave.
A heave.
And, yeah, and these other guys on the team, by the way, I'm driving.
I shoot the lowest round that day.
Do you want me here to tell you the story I heard?
Yeah, let's refresh his memory.
Well, let me at least tell you my side of the story.
Yeah.
is that
let's just put it this way
Andrew calls me
and I'm pulling up to the hotel
he is coming out of the hotel
to meet the van
and I called him on the way
and I said have the outfit
because you know you have to wear
your outfit's the same
have the outfit ready for me
and he's like it's out
you set it out the night before
I was like okay good
so I come in
and the outfit's ready for me
and I go in
I rinse off
I put on the outfit
I'm only like three minutes
behind them
so it doesn't look
that unobvious because he took a shower then I took the shower and
and it comes in and I show up to the van yeah all good all good and then once we start
getting out there and I'm like to the golf course and I'm like oh no it's settling in yeah so
but what do you okay I want to hear the version of the story I heard yeah the team played
terrible you were playing actually fine yeah but LaRose was so mad he's like I don't even want
to see all the night do whatever you want he said he passes you on the strip yes and he's like
where are you going? He's like, you're like, oh, just going out.
Because he's with his uncle. Yeah. Yeah.
And he goes, the assistant coach calls the room at 540 in the morning because you have a 6 a.m.
Meet downstairs. He goes, he answers the phone. He's like, hey, it's your wake-up call.
Get up. He goes, Rick, get in the shower. You're, your shower on the first day.
Rolls over. You ain't there. The bed is made. The bed is perfect.
He's got the mints on the pillow. So all of a sudden, 558 comes, you come in the door.
And he's on his way down. He's like, first off, Ricky's the only one on the team that
get away with being any bit late.
Of course.
You came down at 603, okay?
Nothing said.
You get to the Southern Highlands.
You puke 15 times in the parking lot in front of coach.
Yeah, no driving.
Yeah, I'll never forget it because I had a really good round.
Hey, Ricky, wake up.
I didn't win the golf tournament, but he wasn't mad at me the whole day.
I played good.
The team did play like shit.
And coach was so mad at us.
I mean, like, so mad.
Big event.
All the good teams are there.
Golf Week event.
and after the round, we have five hours to kill before our flight to Tucson from Vegas.
We have three and a half, but whatever, four and a half hours.
And we get in, and I'm like, hey, coach, can we go to the casino?
He's like, no.
And coach sits down, hangs out, whatever.
I'm like, coach, what's wrong?
Like, you know, I think nothing's wrong.
My hangover is probably finally done.
I got everything out of my system.
He's like, he drops us off at Mandalay Bay, the guy who's telling you the story, Andrew.
we go in
win $350
a piece
which is a million
in college
$10 million in college
dollars
I mean that's
to this day
right now
that's 20 grand
at the crap
or at any table
we hop back on
hop on that
Southwest flight
coach sits up
at the front
we sit at the back
it's like a Sunday night
we're worth 21
we're ordering cocktails
in the back
we have 350 bucks
go back
whatever
and somehow I drink
that day
but oh my God
that is a hundred
100% true story.
I thought someone was telling you about the Northeast one, which is just about.
I know these stories, Ricky, but it's a carbon copy.
It's a carbon copy.
Yeah, that's an unbelievable.
Midley said he's like, I was going into the hotel as Ricky was coming out,
didn't see him again until the next morning goes and shoot 65.
Just like second in the golf tournament.
Rick LaRose has no idea.
All he knows is Ricky's his guy and he can do it every once.
By the way, when I was in college, Rick LaRose scared the shit out of me.
He's still scary, bro.
He was so mean.
Like, not to me.
I would just see like team meetings when things didn't go well.
I'm like, oh my God.
He kicked me in a team meeting.
Andrew Mellner was there.
Regional senior year or something.
He was doing the team speech after like the second or third round, you know.
And I flagellated pretty loud and he kicked me.
Flazulated.
And he kicked you?
Oh, yeah.
I was laughing because I was, I was laughing.
And he kicked me.
And I started laughing.
And I won the term the next day.
And I said, you need to kick me more often.
Yeah.
Rick, you can fart as much as you.
want, dude. You are my guy.
Have you got Ricky Barnes on your college team?
You could do whatever the hell you want.
You could do whatever the hell you want.
But dude, after, like, you're talking about, we were talking about that master's performance
and you're beating Tiger.
You were like the it guy coming out of, like college golfers weren't getting a lot of
pub at that time.
I feel like you were the guy getting tons of it.
And then you parlay that into, there's another great picture.
A, we're going to ask for your permission to post that one of you when you are nicknamed
snacks.
But there's another one of you, Jay Z, and LeBron James at the 4th.
4040 club which was like just launching at the time jZ's club up in new york and you get invited you got
this is the snacks pitcher was this seventh grade yes that that's the one god god i got great that's no
that's the one with the tie we'll get that's not even you producer mark no that's him dude now look at
him dude you could bounce quarters off for this freaking guy but back in the day things change mops
you get you mighty 70 pounds in six months but dude you got the pictures that picture is great we're
going to post that now that you actually showed that. And B, now you got this picture with Jay Z and
LeBron. Talk about how like that, the notoriety around you at that time was massive. How do you
get invited to a party where there's Jay Z and LeBron in attendance? So it's kind of twofold.
Your first part of the question was in a Colt and like a Ryan Moore and, you know, like a hunter,
people coming out of college can understand that, you know, I can't, I'll tell two parts of
the stories that when we come out as golfers, we all get thrown back in the
same pool. So there's the top five or ten golfers and you have the top five or ten football
players, basketball players that come out. They get two or three year contracts to go prove themselves.
We get thrown in the same pool as golfers to go prove yourself, meaning we might get a few more
exemptions, but you have just as much status as Drew Stoltz as John Doe as someone coming out of
college, anybody. So you have to go prove yourself. So yes, we might get some sponsorship
dollars and exemptions to go kind of help the path to get there.
But I came out, as you said, whatever, with, it was like Hesop Choi, LeBron James, Lugano,
and someone else.
They did ESPN Next magazine.
It just came back out.
They did Next.
It was ESPN the magazine, but it's called Next.
Next was big, yeah.
So they did an hour special on the television, and they did a magazine.
And it was, I was the golfer, and they picked an athlete from each sport, and I'll never forget
it.
came to Tucson and did a TV part of it.
They did a shoot part of it.
And at that point, you know, you think you get a two or three, like I said,
for your contract, you get to prove yourself.
And in golf, we probably would have come out of college if we would have both got a card right away,
get on the PGA tour, you start clicking, blah, blah, blah.
And it's a super tough thing in golf, and it's tough to explain to the normal golfer
how you get your card and keep it.
You just say you're finishing the top 125.
And on the other part of that, I was coming out.
of college. I was a little bit different, or I felt like I was a little bit different. Stockton,
crossover athlete, you know, wore a different shirt, but I was playing well in the Masters with
Tiger and Tucson Open. I think I played in another term, but that played well to parlayed into it.
But I'll never forget, I play well in the Masters. I go, I make the cut with Ernie and Tiger
in the 2003 U.S. Open when Ernie was making a big push at Tiger. And I never seen so much media in my
life. And I'm sitting there and I'm at Olympia Fields, another wildcat one at Jim Furrick.
And it's Saturday night. And my best girlfriend from high school is going to Northwestern.
And I was going to go hang out with her on Sunday and Monday to stay there for a couple extra days in
the summer. She was doing summer school. And I'm going to go hang out with her just to stay there
for a little bit. We had nothing going on in the summer really at that point because I was going
to turn pro. I was going to go play in the British Open and then turn pro after. And I
I got a call on my phone.
I was getting recruited by, let's call it like, you know, Nike or an Adidas and Reebok and this company with Reebok, who Jay Z was with and this other management company calls me and gets me associated.
And I'm on the phone with the guy that they call Worldwide West.
Legend.
Yeah, legend.
And Jay Z.
So Worldwide West calls me.
He's like, hey, I got a guy that wants to talk to you.
And I told you this.
And I'm like, yeah.
Oh, hey, this is Jay-Z.
Yo, I'm opening up the 40-40 club.
I think it was on a Wednesday.
Do you want to come?
I'm like, yeah.
He's like, how many albums I got?
I'm like, ah, you got four.
He's like, I got five, but I don't count the first one.
He's like, you're in.
He's like, bam, I got you stay in here, staying here, you're in.
And I mean, the pitcher describes it all.
But, I mean, I go, I hang out at Northwestern, where my good girlfriend was hanging for like a day and a half.
I fly to New York.
I stay at the giraffe hotel in Midtown.
I end up going to the,
the 4040 club, which is just open that night. He drops the black album that night,
plays it two times through, and then we leave. I'm in the best story from the whole night
is that I go into that room. I'm eating with them. I'm having cocktails and drinks with them.
I go into the club with them. Red carpet. Jason Kidd's ex-wife is doing the red carpet.
Bam, I'm in the same room. I need to take, I need to go to the bathroom. I go outside,
go to the bathroom. I come back. Guy gives me the full-on Heism.
I'm like, whoa.
And these two guys are huge.
It's Beyonce's bouncer and Jay-Z's bouncer.
And I'm like, oh, no, I was just in here.
I just came back out.
No, you didn't.
No.
By all means, just like producer over there, Jay-Z makes eye contact with me.
And I give him the hands up.
He's like, no, no, no.
So Jay-Z walks over.
And LeBron's there.
LeBron's getting drafted.
And he goes, this guy tonight can go anywhere.
And I was like, oh my God, I'm in.
And five minutes later, there's a picture of me, whatever.
And I got Little Kim on my lap.
I'm hanging with Antoine Walker, Tracey McGradie, LeBronje.
Slays might have to excuse himself when you said Little Kim.
He's seen the picture.
I showed a bit of a fan.
What a, I mean.
Dude, how did you go back to college after that?
You know what I mean?
I'm going to go back to Tucson and hang out at the local pub.
So that was the summer.
Two weeks later, I went over, played in the British.
And then two weeks after that, turned pro at Castle Pines.
Did you meet Beyonce?
Let's get back to me.
I've had dinner with her twice.
What?
The most beautiful skin.
What does she smell like?
So right here.
Butterflies.
So the same gal.
No,
and true story.
My good girlfriend that was in, from Stockton,
randomly enough,
the family from Stockton owns the San Diego Chargers,
now the Los Angeles Chargers.
She was in town and another friend at put us up,
because I was just moving here,
put us up at the Phoenician Hotel.
And that was the Rock,
the mic tour. I don't know if you remember that. Anyways,
Jay-Z was playing with all. And yeah, we had dinner with them at the Phoenician.
I had just turned pro 2004, I think was the Rock the Mike tour. And yeah, I've had,
I've actually had dinner with them twice. And most beautiful skin I've ever seen.
I mean, no offense, things have kind of gone downhill for you. That's what I'm saying.
How do you, your life at 21 and 22, dude, like there's, you're pinnacle.
Like, I don't care what you do from that point on. There's nowhere to go except, like,
dude, you're having dinner with Jay Z and Beyonce. And they're calling you to, like,
come hang out with them like there ain't nowhere to go but down and the most unbelievable thing is like
after the show they came back because she popped was it crazy in love when she featured in and she
would like surprise the whole crowd whatever but i was with them before so i kind of knew that she was
going to come out but after the show they come back and i got one of my buddies and one of my good
girlfriends there and hanging out and after the show she's drinking i forgot what drinks you drink but
they're ordering french fries and onion rings and chicken wings she's like oh my god like
Beyonce looks like she looks and she's just crushing french fries.
She threw up later.
Yeah, she threw up later.
True.
But I mean, you can't make these.
Now that you look back on it, you think that it's normal life, but now you're like,
oh my God, what was like, what was I doing?
I was 22 years old when this is happening.
You're a baby.
That's cool.
That's unreal.
I got to ask you one serious golf question before we get into some more fun stuff because
we could talk about this stuff all day.
We can talk about Beyonce for the next two hours if you want.
But you with me?
I'm in.
I'll text me.
You with me?
Yeah, okay.
Unbelievable.
But obviously, you had a great run at the Masters as an amateur.
You know, you had a lead at the U.S. Open in 2009 at Bethpage.
You played 310 PGA tour events, a number of chances to win.
Would you consider your career unsuccessful if you don't get a win before it's all over?
Unsuccessful?
Probably no disappointed, yes.
Disappointed?
Yeah, super disappointed.
Way too competitive.
Talk about, like, club throwing and stuff when you were young.
I won at every level.
You know, I've lost a corned fairy playoff event.
I feel like I should have won the 2009 without playing an eight-hole stretch versus Lucas.
And he played good golf.
We were both ball striking it well.
I had about a seven or eight-hole stretch where I just didn't hit it good.
Yeah, but it's one of those ones for good.
You lose by two and you shot 76 the final round.
Like, I mean, looking back, that's one that definitely probably got away.
Oh, for sure.
For sure.
Yeah, and disappointed.
Like I said, the word kind of disappointment, and then where you look about like,
the weight loss and
putting all that energy and stuff like that.
So like the word discipline and acceptance
always come into golf and pro sports.
But unsuccessful, I would say no in a sense
because I feel like I've done a lot
and I played a lot of sports
and I didn't have a lot of coaching growing up
just in focus with golf as a lot of other guys.
But disappointing, yeah.
And I don't look at it.
it as the past yet.
I did kind of a
re-evaluation
about 10 months ago.
Kind of
looked at a
kind of a new sports, like
you know, kind of switch coaches, get another
eye on it and realize, hey, do you either
want to go a different path and start
not really like working for a living?
Because that's kind of the wrong way to look at it.
Because golf is, people always think, oh, you get to play golf for a living.
Well, you put all your time, effort
when you wake up to when you go to sleep,
into golf. I look at it a little bit different now, right? So you have a family, you got to pick you
and choose your times where you can do it. But really assessing the mental part of it as part as the
physical part of it, I feel like I'm still there and I can compete. So I'm not really to slam that chapter
yet. I feel like I can cross over, maybe do something else or the relationships that we meet through
golf are unbelievable. You can't really put another fingerprint on any other sport that gives us what we
have. I mean, case of point, Jay-Z and Beyonce as opposed to. Sleys and Cole. Yeah. Very similar.
Take it a step further. Interchangeable. CEOs of companies that are, you know, Fortune 500,
Fortune freaking 50 companies that we get a meet in pro-aims and et cetera, et cetera. But yeah,
I mean, in a serious thing, yeah, I'd be super disappointed in myself. Yeah. So unsuccessful, no,
but disappointed, yes. Let me ask you this. So you had, we're talking about, I mean,
you had an unbelievable experience as an amateur. You were the top college guy. You're
top amateur guy you had all the success. Did you think you had a skewed perspective in the sense that
like when you did turn pro you're like this is going to come easy? Dude I've won at the high school
level. I've won at the college level. I've won at the amber level. I've always won. I'm just going
to show up on, you know, once I turn pro, I'm going to show up and do the exact same thing.
Yeah, and I got on that run that I was saying earlier with like the world diameter top.
I think I finished. I can't think of it, but 15th, 16th at the Tucson Open played well at the
Augusta made the cut at the U.S. Open with Tiger and Ernie. And it was kind of a, you know,
parlay and everything in that and it was playing well on college events too right so you're playing
in six to eight college events in the spring and i was playing well i think if i wasn't winning or finished
third i was in the top 10 and i was the number one player on our team we were a really good team we were
probably favored or top three going into regionals and nc2a's but yeah i think at the end of the day
to be realistic it's one of those things that you need to say i probably put too much
much pressure on myself. You come out, you have sponsorship dollars, you have everything else,
and you think it would come way easier to get your card. And like I said, you come into this pool
like other athletes and you get a two or three year contract. And I got a two or three year contract
with a club company and a clothing company to go prove myself. But that being said, it's still coming
out of your pocket to go play on the corn and ferry events, the PG-Tor events, and the exemption
events. And you still need to go and gain status to prove your, you know, to prove your worth.
But yeah, I probably thought it was going to be easy. But I would say I was putting just as much
pressure on myself from the companies that I was sponsored with.
That's fair. Yeah, that is fair. Meaning because they were fine. They were, yeah, I like this.
Yeah, but they were firing. They were firing, I mean, I'm talking real dollars at me.
Yeah. When I was 21 years old, that if I got my card, my first two years,
I never forget it. I think it was just about to get out of my deal with Callaway. It was going to end. And if I got my card that year, I mean, it was unbelievable money. And I was talking to who's now my wife, that if I got my card that year, and I'll never forget it. I think it was a Houstonian. And the guy chipped in on 17 and 18 for me to finish 26. That's when there was 25 cards on the Corn Ferry Tour. And there was a difference of $1.2 million.
in my contract that if I got my card
versus not getting my card that year.
That's a stinger.
Wasn't it like a few thousand,
but I was reading about that.
Wasn't it like a few thousand like a couple.
It was like $1,200 or something like that.
If he chips it on the green, puts it in on 17,
chips it on puts in the green on 18,
I get the card.
And I had nine top tens that year
and did not get my card on the corned very tour.
Who was that?
Craig Canada.
Craig Canada.
Oh, Craig Canada.
Craig Canada.
I know that.
If you're from Stockton, it's Canada.
He's one of those.
a few guys I could hit it by.
It was Craig Canada that did that?
Wow, that bastard.
I read that you were 26 and it was a nothing dollar amount.
The next year.
The next year went to 20 cards, yeah.
That's crazy.
All right.
Well, that's our serious talk for the day.
But by the way, that's real.
I know you love game shows as well.
Well, that was a two thing.
Bigger Jeopardy or Wheel of Fortune?
Jeopardy.
Malinger said he owns you.
John Malland said he owns you.
Ballinger owns everything, everyone and everything.
Who texts him more when that shows on?
than me.
He says,
he says you might be able
to handle them
in the kids' version
of Jeopardy.
Wow.
That's about it.
First of all,
I love Will of Fortune.
Malager can't answer
a question right
on the free,
yeah,
well,
I was texting you
that went out
on that good show.
We watch it all the time
Colts like
lifelong shit now
is to get on Will of Fortune,
which I think you will.
When he talks about
champions,
we're talking about like Austin
and the legends
of Jeopardy,
I mean.
Oh, dude,
Austin.
Austin's.
He's the recent guy,
right?
The gambling guy
that knew his,
is that the guy?
This other guy before him.
No, no, no.
Austin is the bartender from New York.
That went to the thrift shop to get all of his outfits.
You don't know.
You don't know.
Who is the most recent guy that had the gambling guy?
Yeah.
No, he's from Vegas.
He's, he was unbelievable.
He's kind of like, it almost looks like he's autistic.
But we had, we had Brian Erlacker on, and he, one of the things when I googled him was that he got to go on Wheel of Fortune.
Oh, yeah.
And of all the things he's done is like, that was my favorite thing.
I know.
I was like, are you kidding me?
You went on a Wheel of Fortune?
Oh, it killed you on that game.
I just want to give Pat and Bana hug.
Yeah, well, that's actually a good one.
Like if Pat, say Jack or Alex Trebek, you could only save one of them, who would it be?
Oh, Alex.
You're legend.
Perfect.
All right, let's get this emergency.
Yeah, we'll hit a little E9 now.
This has been unbelievable.
By the way, your life, shit, I feel like my life sucks balls now.
It does.
It's just getting started.
Come on.
And asked me to this party.
All right.
Yeah, do E9.
Do you want to start it?
All right, you fired it off.
We asked this to everybody, as you know, because you're a huge fan.
Movie about the life of Ricky Barnes, who plays you?
So I've listened to your show guys a lot, every interview you've done.
I had two.
So I say, you guys know my mouth.
You guys know me.
I said Jack Nicholson or Jim Carrey.
Fair.
Oh, wow.
I'm thinking the Joker because you know this.
Jack's going to have to get a little Botox.
I'm going to have to dial him back.
And Jim Carrey, I'm a little skinnier now.
The mouth kind of fits.
Mine, he's crazy enough to put it.
Can me tell me you mine?
Yeah, yeah, you go.
Mine was a young John Travolta.
Oh.
I don't know why.
It's not dark hair, yeah.
That's Andy.
That's my brother.
By the way.
I have so much stuff from Andy I didn't get to.
He's going to be mad at me.
Why are he cutting a shirt?
You got a flight to catch.
We got three more hours.
Yeah, we could do whatever.
I'll tell you who mine is, and it's not even an actor, but it's Troy Akeman because
you guys are somehow related.
I don't know how it is.
I don't know where that family tree connects, but it's somewhere because you all too.
Both of my parents were to UCLA.
Is that it?
Yeah.
Oh, well, there it is.
Because I see.
I'll watch them on football.
Like, Ricky's calling football.
And you guys look a lot of like.
I love to go to Dallas then.
People will love you.
We just need, yeah, dude, I think you actually could parlay that.
Go to Dallas.
Oh, maybe we'll call Will the Thrill.
I'll sit next to the box.
Oh, that ain't a bad play.
All right, number two.
All right, number two.
Hill Perot, let me go to your box.
All right.
Hill's got a nice one there.
You're obviously a very well-rounded, man.
You're big into the investment world.
I need a stock tip right now.
Give me one stock that Colton and I should buy
and everyone listening should buy if we want to make money.
You keep your eye.
You keep your ear to the street and that is Wall Street.
I mean, I hate to say, I wish we had this podcast two months ago, Apple and Facebook.
Oh, this is the big dogs, huh?
Well, no, I'm just saying tech right now.
It's unbelievable.
I was fortunate.
I was looking at my deal the other day, and those were kind of the two that popped.
And with everything that's going on in the world, I mean, what's everyone relating to?
These things, devices, and you never know what's going to happen in that six, eight,
months. That moving forward, I mean, I think you still got to look at those and I wouldn't, I wouldn't, well.
Try by Amazon because I feel like they're going to run the world in about five years. So that's a good safe one. I don't like the dividend because I like a little dividend pay.
You like a little piece. Yeah. Well, we're getting older. I got kids. Yeah, yeah. I think with what's going on with my kids and everything else, I don't think you can go wrong with Microsoft right now. Okay. I'm at about 206. I think it's 206, 208 today.
Shout out David Porter. Yeah. Hey, all the boys. But, I, I, hey, all the boys. But I,
I don't know.
I always like a good safe bet, and if I'm going to put it on the pod,
I'll take Microsoft.
All right now.
And if it sucks ass, tweet and Instagram.
At the real Ricky Barnes.
That's where you go if you lose much money on that.
All right.
Number three, heard the story.
I wasn't at your wedding, but I heard at your rehearsal dinner,
your wife stood up, gave a toast, and said,
babe, I love you.
And just so you know, I'll never tell you no to a Vegas trip.
First off, what the hell are you talking?
How did you convince her to do this?
What did you put in her drink and where can I get some?
Yeah.
That's the greatest deal.
She has a sister that I can marry also.
The best part of the whole story is, yes, 100% true.
And I'm going to make her listen to this podcast as soon as you guys blast this out
because I'll just say fast forward to the 50th minute is she caught me by surprise.
And two of my married buddies that come with me all the time, they stand up full on clapping.
and their wives are behind them
pulling their shirts to pull the husband down.
And if you're in here right now,
it was unbelievable because
she was thanking everybody for coming.
Hey, I love Ricky, everything.
I know what he likes to do,
his interest, everything else,
but anytime you want to go to Vegas, you can.
And two or three of my buddies stood up,
started clapping.
And I have used that Trump card once.
Only once?
Once.
You go to Vegas a lot, bro.
No, no, I mean like, oh,
we've been and you go I'm not arguing but I'm saying we're like hey I don't think you should go what do you think about this I'm like hey you're
you remember the rehearsal dinner it's one of those things where you're like hey I want to go and she's like okay yeah go ahead whatever and when you're coming back
hey I'm going to go next Tuesday well I just went last week but hey when you're coming back and it's like hey when you come it's like no I'm going to go you remember the rehearsal dinner and I so I have yes yeah exactly yeah by the way side does part
This isn't a question, but is there a better place on the planet than Shadow Creek?
Zero.
Zero.
Zero.
You were just there last week, not in Shadow Creek, but you were just in Vegas last week wearing the full hazmat.
It's a little different right now.
We need to get it back when it's...
I need no mask where I can puff on a guard, hang with the boys.
He does smash some cigars.
Maybe get on a little heater.
No big deal.
Oh, hey.
You guys...
After Malaysia.
Hey, nobody's...
Oh.
I can't believe you didn't bring up that story.
We're not done yet.
Because you don't remember.
That's a good point.
I don't.
All right, next question.
You guys ever heard of the nomad?
Yeah.
Thank you.
Exactly.
Hello.
All right.
You and I have played on the same rec hoops team.
Very competitive down there at the Jewish Athletic Center here in Scottsdale.
But you like to play a lot of pick-up hoops.
Give me an NBA player right now that most resembles your style of hoops play.
Right now.
Yeah.
Oh, no, no.
I'll let you go historic if you want.
Oh, well, then you know, Rodman.
No, you're a Rodman.
Yeah, I had two names and that's it.
I mean.
Rodman.
You know what?
I would throw them.
I'm not to throw my name in that league, but Barclay or Rodman.
Okay.
I like Rodman more because, dude.
You can shoot though.
No, Ricky's more of a threat.
No, I mean, I like, yeah, it, it sucks because when I, if I shoot well, they're
going to lose the game, but no one's going to out hustle me.
We played on the same team, dude.
Rick would literally body slam it.
Someone would come in the paint, try to get a layup, and Rick would body slam this human
being and of course they called a foul and Rick would turn to the reflick it was closer to like being
ejected from the game and a flagrant seven than a no call and Rick would argue this call's like
dude this isn't the one this is not the one to argue he was fouled out by the 12th minute and the
homeboy uses his fouls I like it valuable hey wreck the rodman is the right call what yeah we won
we won rec my sophomore year at university of Arizona oh I didn't even get into that story
a wrecked too but yeah and you live with all the hoops players you live with like yeah
Like Luke and Iggy and all those guys.
Yeah, I'll tell that story real quick.
So I'm in college, and it is 10 days before I'm going to Augusta.
Nate Lashley, fellow friend of the pot, everything.
Cacky pants.
Mm-hmm.
And I go, and he calls me.
He's like, let's play in a, he was playing in the, whatever,
rec ball pickup rec league.
And I said, and he's like, let's play.
I'm like, oh, you're fine.
He's like, you'll play the whole game.
I'll get into whatever.
And I said, all right, I'll show up.
So we go play the first half.
Second half comes in.
It's like the, they shoot in free throws.
It's like five minutes into the second half.
And I get it off.
It's a rebound.
Normal.
Standard.
Normal.
Standard, bro.
And I give the guy a head fake, and this guy goes up for a volleyball slam
and takes my whole right eyelid out.
Whiffs the ball, I make it foul blown,
and I got eight stitches in this right eye,
10 days before I go to Augusta.
Pick up all 10 days before Augusta.
You need a life coach.
You do need a lot.
LaRose was not happy with me on that one, by the way.
Stitched up.
All right.
Next question.
What does a waffle house and an ATM card have in common?
See, this is where we think about it.
This is where we ask deep stuff.
This is, we do research on this show, bro.
The story behind us.
Oh, this is from my brother.
It's got to be.
Both you have to call your brother.
to learn how you pick up a tab or something.
No, that's incorrect.
They're both open 24-7.
You can go to them both 24-7.
Rumor has it.
You didn't know you could use your ATM card in college when the bank was closed.
Yeah, freshman year.
Call my brother, like, hey, I need like $40.
He's like, go to Wells Fargo, stick in your card, punching your pen.
His story was a little longer.
He's like, yeah, are you in trouble?
Can I help you?
And you're like, no, I just need some money.
And you're like, well, you have an ATM card.
He's like, yeah, but I need some money now.
And he's like, well, if you need beer or something, I'll go get it for you.
Yeah.
And he's like, and you're like, well, I can't use my ATM card.
The bank's closed.
I was trying to think of the reference, but yeah, that's true.
I know it's gone from my brother.
Yep, that was for my Andy Barnes.
Oh, yeah.
No, dude, I can't go to the ATM.
Well, as far as close.
Yeah.
There's no way to get cash.
Yeah, mom and dad didn't send me money.
Although that was kind of our parents.
We got free gas and that was it.
You had to use your scholarship money.
Dude, it's 8.30 at night.
There's no way any bank is open right now.
All right, that's good.
You've come a long way since your freshman year of college.
All right, next question.
You lose your arm in a vicious pickleball accident.
What does Ricky Barnes do for a living?
I lose my arm with pickleball.
You can't turn a pickleball, which I think you may be able to do right now.
No, I mean, golf's been good to us, you know, like with our relationships.
I was talking about it earlier.
You know, I've reached out and I think you call probably the five.
You know what I probably do at the end of the day is call.
probably the five or six guys that I respect, trust, and their living.
So me and Colton, three other guys?
Yeah, pretty much.
And just say, hey, where do you think I'm good?
I'd probably, you know what?
The quick answer is I'd probably get into one of my three or four good friends in business development,
kind of help grow someone's business that's already there.
Your brother said it'd be the guy in San Francisco.
Joe McLean.
Yeah, that's right, right.
You and Joe.
You can handle NBA players money.
Yeah.
I feel like in that space, and you guys can refer to it,
is people trust someone else that is willing to put their money,
kind of where their mouth is,
kind of sweat equity, if you ever read that article with Mark Cuban and stuff,
is that say, hey, this guy's kind of been there,
see what he did with his money, see if he was good with his money, and do that.
So, yeah, I mean, Joe's a great guy.
There's a few others that come to mind.
Kind of call them, see if they would need me.
And I've always had my interest, like you said,
whether it's, you know, stocks or investments or safe investments,
And I feel like I've been pretty good with mine.
Yeah, I'd probably get into that space.
I like what you guys are in.
And maybe if I can't hit the shots, call the shots.
But I don't know about that yet, but I feel like relationships and other with us playing
so many golf courses and golf clubs and pro ams and everything else to kind of use our relationships.
You meet some cool people.
That is for sure.
Yeah, there's no.
And everyone will tell you.
I remember Charles on the pod and other athletes, Jeremy Ronick and et cetera.
like no there's no other sports like golf that get you acquainted with other athletes to parlay this into something else
yeah you'd have options all right well hopefully your arm dyes get ripped off in a pickleball game
because now i want to talk about some pickleball you play a lot of pickleball with my man sleaze you also play a lot of golf with him
this is a two-part question i need a rating i need a rating of one to ten on sleez's pickleball game
because i've never seen him play tells me that he's the greatest and also what current pGA tour player
would you say resembles Sleez's golf game?
Ooh, I've never been more interested in an answer my life.
Two-part question.
That's a good question, Colt.
All right, so Slees, I'll never forget it.
15 months ago, we're playing a round robin pickaball match, five of us,
and we get done at a fellow friend's house,
and he tells us he's the best player.
And I got to be honest, he lost $540 in one session.
of pickleball.
My partners were shit,
dude.
Every one of them.
Everyone sucked
when they get a
and all the wives
come over and we start
drinking.
And he brings up a serious question.
If someone was on their game,
who would you want us your partner?
Who's the best player here?
And he says,
me.
Slees,
you're the only guy that lost $540.
The next biggest loser
of the whole day was 80.
He's like,
me.
And I was like,
ah, God,
this guy's delirious.
Confidence is not a problem for Slius.
And I'll tell you what.
He paid.
paid his way to become a good player.
No, this is a truth.
And they'll tell you from today, we played today,
and cheers to my boy.
We played twice, or three times a day,
two and no or three now.
So he was a, he was a,
they go like 40, 50, 50, 4.5, whatever out of 10 in tennis.
But my boy was probably like,
I feel like our players that we played that were really good,
we're about a, honestly, like, we're like eight out of tens,
nine out of tens.
If we went and played other people,
we're really good.
And when Slees came and he was playing really good,
he was like a six out of ten.
So if you had him on your team,
it was a liability.
I was a liability early,
even though I told everyone I was the best.
No,
but now,
when he did that,
it was the funniest night of life
because he was pissed.
Now Slees is a,
I can honestly say,
I feel like I've been playing well lately,
but my guy's a seven and a half out of ten,
eight out of ten right now.
My boy.
Good improvement.
All right,
next part of the question.
What PJ tour player reminds you of Sleez's golf game?
on the golf team.
Maybe.
But he's not golfing anymore.
No, I know, but I was a lot like him.
Sleez's golf game.
It just talk.
Who talks?
Who talks?
Torino.
DA points.
Oh, my God.
The Lego belt.
That's good anyway.
Does not stop talking.
No, no.
I think the easiest answer, it's probably not a great word for the pod, but Johnny Long
socks.
Oh, Casey's caddy?
Yeah.
I know.
I love it.
We met him at Riviera.
I know, but you had Casey and I, trust me, a friend of the pot, I listened to.
That works.
I'll accept that.
But I feel like it's Johnny because when Slee shows up, people look at him, everyone wants
to talk to him, Johnny, he's got the long socks, they have something going on.
The first thing that they look, hey, and then they freaking look down low.
Like today, he's got the shoes on.
I see him.
Before I met him, I saw him on TV coverage with Paul Kay.
I was like, this guy, this identity theft.
This is a real problem in America right now.
You can't be doing that.
And then we met him at Riviera, Colton.
when we're doing the radio i was like this guy the best guy of all time he's unbelievable so i was like
i love it all right that's a great answer all right that's a great answer next question this is a good one
all right who did more to kill the painter hat you or ryan more oh god you're both hot in the streets
with the painter well i mean i mean you started i was just say yeah you said it yeah don't
don't be afraid he killed it yeah well and then two other guys did but who else who are the other
who are the other two i only think it's i was to say yeah i don't i only think
you and Ryan Moore, I think of the painter.
Yeah, two other guys wore it, and I was like, all right, it's worn out.
I got it.
Oh, Graham McDow wore it.
Oh, Graham wore it.
Yeah, Graham wore it.
Who was the fourth guy?
Kind of got it into it who I love Legend of the game, Freddie Yock.
Oh, yeah.
I feel like he's a different.
I know, but it was just like too many guys were wearing it.
It was, you know, I'd go to events, and the volunteers, when you check in, they're like, oh, Ricky.
Like, they totally knew the painter cap bubble.
And then after, I think it was 2014.
So I wore it for like three years or something like that.
And then Ryan Moore and Graham and Freddie Yock and I was like, oh my God.
Like I can't.
They killed it.
You started it and they grabbed it and they killed it.
Yeah.
All right.
That's fair.
Yeah, I forgot about Freddie Yock.
He's such a different.
Oh, I love it.
I forget. Freddy's amazing.
He's an unbelievable dude.
All right.
Last question.
Okay.
This is a fact.
No one in the history of the PGA tour has received more sponsor exemptions than Ricky Barks.
True?
Okay.
How many incriminating pitchers of tournament directors do you have?
And which ones are the worst?
And can we have some?
We're trying to get some spots.
We want to play.
I used to have them.
They're not working anymore because I'm writing to them and they don't even.
Ricky who?
And then I have to spell out my name.
B-A-R-N-E-S.
No, I got them.
Yeah.
I mean, I came out.
I mean, you know, you get it.
You come out.
You're highly talented, everything else.
You try to get them.
And I have.
And I've been blessed.
I've got a lot of sponsors exemptions.
You give a lot of back.
You know, you say, hey, I'll help out with the junior clinics, the proans, the money proans.
I'll give you half my check this week.
No big deal.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So in some terms, that doesn't even work.
I'll teach your kid out to play pickleball.
But, yeah.
Well, I need to start using that one.
You should.
You should.
I'll get you on golf subpar.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And no, I've been, I've been fortunate.
I've had a lot of sports exemptions.
Like you said, I mean, it goes back to the whole point of what you said would have to be unsuccessful
versus that, and I said it's disappointed.
Because it's unsuccessful, it's tough to say, because I feel like I've been able to do a lot
and create a foundation with my wife back in Stockton, California, and meet a lot of people.
So unsuccessful is a tough word to associate with golf because of what it has brought to me,
my family, my relationships.
So when I say disappointed, associating to that with sponsors exemptions and parlaying it,
to other stuff.
Disappointed is a much better word than I used, but I was just...
No, I get it.
No, but it's super...
I mean, you guys were talking about it with Brandel, with Tiger.
Yeah.
You know, like underperforming.
Underachieving.
Yeah.
So I think it's, obviously, it's two different roads, not to prepare myself with that,
but it's kind of the same thing when you're asking someone like that on that level
versus me coming out.
And not that I had his success or the Ryan Moore's amateur success,
but you're kind of going down that rabbit hole of saying comparing two words of it's kind of a yay or a nay or a yes or no when you're talking about it.
So yeah, for sure.
Like it's at the end of the day it's sports, right?
Yeah.
You've done an amazing job.
You've had a great career no matter what happens.
But one little bonus question I'm going to throw in here because we have talked about, you know, JZ, Beyonce.
You know a lot of celebrities, most famous person in your phone.
Probably nowadays.
I probably still say Brady.
Oh, that's a good one.
Yeah.
What's his number?
That's actually part of the deal.
What is it?
Do you have his new Tampa number?
No, you know, I'm pretty fortunate with playing in the AT&T and like we go back to talk about this game and, you know, what do you say?
I'm not that Jay's new, Jay Z's not a big name or, you know, Tom or, you know, even like I've played in the pro em with Grets.
But having, um, playing the AT&T with Coach Belichick and Brady, like, I played in a, I played in,
within like seven of eight years, sorry, five of eight years or something like that.
And there's huge supporters, Coltsman, in my foundation event.
I mean, these guys are unbelievable.
And I always, and I want to thank them, especially on this pod or something,
is that I feel like the bigger the celebrity, the most, the more generous and faster they get back to you, they are.
I mean, if you send a note to like Wayne Gretzky, John Elway, Tom Brady, Coach Belichick,
like Aaron Rogers helped us all this year.
You name these guys.
I mean, they get it to you in three days.
That's all.
I'm talking like, you send out a note.
I'll never forget.
I sent an email to Coach Brady, or sorry, Tom Brady and Coach Belichick, and I gave my parents
the dress for it.
And two days later, it was like a Wednesday.
And like Friday or Saturday, my parents, you know, text me or called me.
Hey, I have a package here, and it's a jersey of Brady signed Belichick and Gruncowski.
Are you expecting this?
I'm like, I felt like it just sent the email.
two minutes ago.
And Gretzzi's done the same thing.
So I can't think those guys enough.
And like I said, the bigger, the fashion,
I know that they probably emailed to someone else to take care of them.
But for them to read us and kind of going back to the Jay Z Beyonce and pinching yourself,
you can't thank them enough.
Like you write them an email.
You hope to get an email back or a text back in a week.
These people are making shit happen in two days.
That's because nine people in the world have their contact info.
Still.
How many people want their time too, though?
All of them.
But nobody knows how to get a hold of them.
If you are listening, send golf subpar some shit,
we don't have a charity foundation, but we'll make use of it.
Yeah, we'll donate it to the Ricky Barnes Foundation.
Yeah, exactly.
That's part of it.
Well, Barnes, it's been an absolute blast.
Thank you so much for my man.
We appreciate it.
We've been waiting a long time to do this, so glad you could come on.
And that was our man, Ricky Bards.
And, I mean, first off, what a life he lived after winning the US AM and turning pro.
I know.
How bad do you feel about your life now?
It's like, oh, I didn't really do anything cool.
Dude, the story of them coming back in at Augusta National going in and putting on, like, former champions jackets and pouring drink.
I was like, dude, I was worried.
I was like, are you getting yourself in trouble right now?
Are you like snitching on yourself right now?
I don't know if that's going to even like go over if that's a problem.
But the stories are wild, dude.
And then just gets to party with Jay Z and Beyonce.
Oh, yeah, John.
Yeah, they were in town.
They give me a call.
We go hang out.
Like, it's great.
You forget what a big deal he was coming out, man.
But it was a lot of fun.
He is obviously super talented.
He played over 300 events on the PGA tour.
had an unreal career.
It's crazy.
He hasn't knocked off a victory.
Hopefully he does.
He said that's obviously
very high on the list
before he hangs up the golf spikes.
Yeah, absolutely.
And he's had a hell of a run out there
no matter how it ends.
He's been out there a long time
and done a good job.
And he's also done very well
off the golf course as well
in terms of endorsements or things like that.
Smart, smart man.
Yeah, he pays attention to a lot of things
at Rick.
That is very cultured.
But special thanks to Ricky
for coming on the pod with us this week.
But now it is time to get to my favorite part of the show.
The gambling picks
producer mark did i stretch my lead a little this week it's getting worse well colt you only had three
people make the cut they all just happened to finish t3 all three of them did webb see wu kim
doc redmond um all me so sorry you had two or sorry drew you had two people make the cut and they
both made top 10 and patrick reed and harold barner but that just didn't gain you anything the lead now
stands at $2.85 million dollars.
This thing got out of hand so fast, bro.
It was like two weeks ago.
I was like, all right, we're neck and neck clash of the Titans.
Now it's like, all right, you have a four mile lead in a marathon.
I will say I'm very upset, though, with Siwu Kim.
I predict him to shake his ass all over Sedgfield Country Club.
He did.
And then he showed his ass on the 6th when he hit driver, stupidest play.
Sewu, you owe me $4,500 out $100 on you at $45 to 1.
I'm very upset with you.
But that's a topic for another day.
Let's get in to this week.
picks because this thing's not over. It's not over. It's just going to take a lot of good
shit to happen to me. You're correct about that. The playoffs are here. The purses are very,
very big. You're going to need to go on a run. I'll be honest. It's a good time to get hot right now.
It is. There's no more time. The pedal needs to go down. All right. Well, we are at the TPC
Boston this week. For my number one pick in this week's draft, I'm going with a guy who has won here
back in 2017. Number one in the FedEx. Number one in strokes gained approach. Number two in
strokes game total hard to go against him he's 12 to 1 Justin Thomas yeah number one in your
hearts and number one pretty much everywhere else that it counts right there Justin Thomas going
off 12 to 1 can't say anything about that pick other than I hope my guy beats him and I'm also
going with the other betting favorite because I got to play close to the best right now
bryson de chambot 12 to 1 I mean dude top 10 5 is last 7 fourth at the pGA and as a win at this
golf course so that was bryson 1.0 that won at this golf course so 2.0 hopefully he can go
because he needs to win this golf tournament or this thing's going to be dirt and after the
it's a big hitter's golf course there's no doubt about that send it over there and we'll see what
happens but all right you have the honor with the number two all right number two i'm going to go
with the guy you had last week which was the nails pick web simpson he's 28 to one third last
week just another smooth 300k down there in north carolina another you know that makes sense now
why his daughter's named windham i mean that place is just straight annuity for him third in the fedex
cup right now i mean just can't poke holes in anything about him it was between him and patrick can't
I'm going Webb Simpson. I think he's,
he's poised. Hey, he's poised.
Yeah, absolutely. All right. I'm going with the defending champ of this event.
Even though he's at a different golf course, he's sixth in the FedEx coming off a little 65, 64 on the weekend,
which you lost five shots to Jim Herman.
Yeah, play better.
Play better.
But look, he's gone 13th of the PGA, ninth last week.
He's trending in the right direction.
28 to 1, Patrick Reed.
Yeah, don't hate him.
Had him last week.
He did his job for me, top 10.
Top 10 for you?
Your team did better.
better job for you you just need to go like one two three four i just need a win and a solo second or
solo third yeah i'll be right back in well the third pick on my wonderful glorious team going off
at 55 to one this guy he just he just is under the radar so much he's 25 in the world 25th in the world
25th like that's ridiculous 13th in the fedex cup 55 to 1 abraham answer yeah he's a popular
pick in this pod i feel like one of us picks him every single week he's going to win at some point
He hits the iron so good, too.
Yeah, all right, Abe answered, not a bad pick.
First up for me, I'm going to go with a guy that you're very familiar with.
I'm going to go Scotty Sheffler.
I need upside out of these guys.
I need guys with potential to hoist trophies at the end of the week.
Last three events, 22nd, 15th, 4th at the PGA.
So trending, also a big ball hitter, high ball hitter.
I just got to have guys that can win.
If they play great, I need them be able to win.
I think he's one of them.
All right, good pick, good pick.
My last pick, a guy that just loves this time of the year.
He's a very streaky player
When he gets hot, he is ridiculously hot
Finished second last week
Shooting 20 under par for the week
A guy that should have won this golf tournament a few years ago
He's going off at 66 to 1
The 2014 FedEx Cup champion
Billy Ho, Billy Horshaw
Yep, Horshawissel season right now
Horshiel season
Damn near got on a playoff this past week too
So I hate that pick
All right, my last pick on Team Sleys
And he'd another big week from this man
I'm going to go with Mr. Matthew Wolfe
Got to go with the upside again
And so last time we saw him fourth at the PGA at four rounds in the 60s.
He's not the most consistent guy on the planet, but his good golf is really damn good.
And if he goes out and has a week, I think he can be right there at the end.
And I need him to be or else I'm done.
That's okay.
I'm okay with it.
My back will be nice and heavy.
Don't worry.
I was saying this this weekend.
If there is a guy you want a caddy for, it's you.
So it's like, hey, there's fair way.
All right, good shot.
All right, which one of these irons you want?
Cool.
Here's your putter.
There'll be the lowest.
I won't look for a ball the whole day.
Well, you never know.
I might get a little wild that day.
Yeah, well, I'm carrying three balls.
If you run out of those, loops over.
All right.
Well, coming this week, TPC Boston, the Northern Trust, Justin Thomas, Patrick Reed,
Abe Anser, Billy Ho.
All right, team sleys, Bryson D. Shambot, Webb Simpson, Scotty Sheffler, Matthew Wolfe.
Somebody bring the noise for the kid one time.
All right.
Good luck, everyone.
We'll talk to you on next week's golf subpar.
