Subpar - Ronde Barber talks going into the NFL Hall of Fame, hosting the Valspar Championship

Episode Date: March 7, 2023

On this week's episode of GOLF's Subpar, NFL Hall of Fame inductee Ronde Barber joins former PGA Tour pro Colt Knost and jicky jack legend Drew Stoltz for an exclusive interview. He talks the incredible story of finding out he was going to Canton, what nickname his brother Tiki should have on his caddie bib and what his role will be as the General Chair of the Valspar Championship this year. -- Step up to the tee and take a swing at betting the PGA TOUR with the Official Sportsbook of Subpar, FanDuel. Go FanDuel.com/SUBPAR to get a NO SWEAT FIRST BET up to ONE THOUSAND DOLLARS in BONUS BETS! FanDuel, ​​Official Betting Operator of the PGA TOUR. Disclaimer: 21+ in select states. First online real money wager only. $10 Deposit req. Refund issued as non-withdrawable bonus bets that expire in 14 days. Restrictions apply. See full terms at fanduel.com/sportsbook. Gambling Problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit FanDuel.com/RG (CO, IA, MI, NJ, OH, PA, IL, TN, VA), 1-800-NEXT-STEP or text NEXTSTEP to 53342 (AZ), 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-9-WITH-IT (IN), 1-800-522-4700 or visit ksgamblinghelp.com (KS), 1-877-770-STOP (LA), visit www.mdgamblinghelp.org (MD), 1-877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY), 1-800-522-4700 (WY), or visit www.1800gambler.net (WV).

Hello world. Welcome back to golf subpar with Colt Nost and Drew Stolts. And if you don't like watching golf right now, something is seriously wrong with you because what has been going on on the PGA tour is so damn exciting. Dude, I was glued to the TV for all four and a half, how many hours of coverage they had, I watched every second of the Arnold Palmer Invitational on Sunday, and it was electrifying. These designated events since they came out, it's first year we've had them, kind of a new look, nobody knew what to expect. These last three, I don't even really count Maui because it's a little bit different, but Phoenix, L.A., Bay Hill now have been unbelievable how good they've been. The leaderboards have been fantastic. The drama coming down the stretch has been incredible. The first two, you get, you know, world number one, world number two. Scotty Schaeffler, John Rom, going at it, winning one each. Then you come to Bay Hill, you get whatever you want to call him, Cinderella story, underdog. He's not the name you'd expect looking at that leaderboard to come away with that thing. It's been a perfect mix of like exactly what I think the PJ

who are hoped they would be. I don't know why at this point they need to change these things. They're going just about as good as human. I'm locked into these things. They feel bigger, probably because the bigger purses or maybe, you know, all the best players are there. They feel bigger to me watching them.

I'm sure they feel that way to other people too. But I'm with you, dude. I'm like, this is exactly what you want. You're getting the best shit possible on the PJ tour right now. Don't mess with it. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. We got the best players in the world. It seems like they're battling in,

week in, week out. And then obviously the PJ Tour announces that they're going to change some stuff for the designated events. There's going to be limited fields, no cuts, which I think is a horrible idea. Yep. But we'll see what happens. You know, hopefully it's not too late that they can maybe possibly go change their mind when they see how happy everyone is with these designated events, how great the ratings

are, how everyone on Twitter, social media is talking about this is fascinating. This is exactly what we wanted. We got Roy McRoy, Scotty Schaeffler trying to chase down Kirk Kiddiyama. Jordan Speeth was in there as well. At one point, it looked like it could possibly be a six, seven, eight-way playoffs. I thought we were going to get the mother of all playoffs at one point, which would not have pissed me. I mean, we had what, Rory, Harris, Cantlay, Speath, Sheffler, Hatton. There was a situation where all those guys are going, and Kiddiama.

John, what the hell were you doing? Rom. Where were you? Turns out he's human. Yeah. But I'm like, what do you want from these things, man? This is as good as it's going to get. I think it's the best, the most I've been into golf term is in a non-major in a long time.

And that's three weeks out of, you know, the last three of whatever. I agree. That's why I wish we would just sit back a little bit and just wait and see kind of what happens with a few more of these. events because they're fascinating and we haven't even got to the majors yet we're at the players this week this is the previews the appetizers dude and uh it's been going so good man but congratulations to kirt kiddiyama picking up his first win and his 50th start on the pGA tour so happy for him i've known the kid for a long time um not the most textbook look in action but my god he just knows how to grind it out when his the swing requires a lot of timing and when that timing's on he plays incredibly well

he's not scared to miss quite a few cuts but then he gets up there and he contends he's up to 19th in world now. It's bombs. Crazy bombs for 5-7, called Quadzilla. And yeah, the golf swing. It's a little different than what you see with most of the guys, the bowed wrist, kind of the shut face rotation, all that. He's the open, super high left arm at the top. But damn, he creates a lot of speed. Puts it good. Lag putting is unbelievable. And I mean, quite frankly, going in the last day, you look at that leaderboard, there probably weren't a whole lot of people being like, I bet you it's Kittiyama. Yeah. At the end, especially after the triple on nine, be like, well, he had his run. it was too much. One of these other guys is going to win it. No. And that's why I think they're so

awesome. It's like we've seen the two big names with Scotty and John win. Now you got something different and he held them all off. It was awesome. I mean, you go back to Phoenix. You throw a Nick Taylor in there. I mean, Keith Mitchell's outside the top 50 in the world, but not he's not Max Homa and John Rom. Keith Mitchell's in the final group there competing. Now you have Kurt Kittiam. I mean, this is exactly what we want. We want the guys that are, you know, slightly lesser names competing with all the big dogs. And that's what this brings. You start going to these limited events. I think it ruins that.

But that's a story for another day. If you're worried about stars being around the weekend, guess what? Stars are around on the weekend. That's why they're stars. Go back and find me John Rom's last miss cut on the PGA tour. Long time. Rory hadn't been missing many. They're going to be there.

It doesn't help to have them go off two hours, three hours before the leader and just go through the motions out there off the 10th T. Like, doesn't make a better product. I don't know why that's a change has been necessary because these things have been good, man. But congrats to Kurt. Congrats also to Nico Echavari. who won down in Puerto Rico and future guest on golf subpar, Akshay Batia, who locked up special temporary membership on the PJ Tour

with his solo second place finish. The kid just turned 21 years old. I'm so pumped for him, man. It feels like he's been around forever because he has. He turned pro when he was 17 years old, beginning sponsor exemptions out on the PGA tour, finally started to play kind of like what I think everyone expected of him and probably what he expected of himself,

but he is now a member of the PGA tour. Yeah, I mean, he's a guy that since he turned pro at 17, no college. He's had eyeballs on him from age 17. Not a lot of guys can do that. Honestly, last year was the year I think most people expect him to get on the PJ tour. He won early on the Corn Ferry Tour. Winning out there, you're not locked to get your card, but you're pretty damn close. And then he battles some injuries. Ends up just missing out. And it ended up not hurting him all that much. It was just a couple months delay. But looking forward to having him on very soon. But this week's guest, we got two for a little bit. But we got Tracy West from the Valspar

championship tournament director and also general chair for the tournament down there and now NFL hall of famer ronde barber joins us we talk a little golf little vowsbar vowsbar the most colorful event on the pga tour do some great things down there with the caddy bib nicknames they're trying to turn it into quite a party i'm actually hosting a party there on friday that's what i was going to talk about dude with rob gruncowski are you ready oh is gronk going to be there on friday oh wow so now you're going to have to we talk about it in the interview a little bit say how you like to dance, but you don't like to talk about it. Gronk's going to die. Gronk ain't going to shy away from anything.

So you better be, you better be ready to perform. They're doing great things down there. Jordan Spieth, Sam Burns, Justin Thomas will all be in the field down there. It's going to be a lot of fun. But getting to talk to Ronde, who is one of the nicest men I've ever come across in my life. I've got to play golf with his twin brother Tiki. But what an NFL career he had. And now, to cap it off.

He's getting inducted into the Hall of Fame. Yeah, as he should. He had a hell of run all with one team. You don't see that hardly ever. Not just how long his career was for anyone, but as a corner. That's really hard. Shut down corner. The young man's game out there.

There'll be a corner at that level for that long. It's a hell of a run. You're going to look nice in that gold jacket. All right, let's get to it. Here's Tracy West and Ronde Barber on Golf Subpar. All right. We have two special guests joining us here today. Two of the big fish from the upcoming Valspar championship.

First off, we have tournament director Tracy West, and she is alongside longtime NFL vet and golf fanatic, the tournament general chair, Rondea. barber guys thank you so much for joining us appreciate you we appreciate being here so thank you so much for having us absolutely the time is approaching fast i know you guys have a lot of new things in store for the vowspar this year want you tell us about some of the things you have planned for for this year's event yeah uh we've got a great set of activities you know this is

really a fan favorite on the pj tour we had a ton of people you know 120 000 people come and watch for the week so it's a very well supported in the tampa bay area and really throughout Florida coming to the tournament. So a lot of fun activities for kids, families to do, for military to come out and so forth. But really kind of a neat thing each day. We have a theme of each day of the four days of competition. So I'll start with Friday because I'm going to work my way back to Thursday. So of course you are. Exactly. Starting to try. Just go ahead and just go ahead and bury the lead Tracy. The lead is that we have cold-nosed on our on our rooftop for four days. That's the lead. That's what we should have started with. I hope you got insurance. Oh,

boy. I hope you got good insurance too. We'll get there. So let's work our way from Friday through Sunday first. So Friday, St. Patrick's Day. So obviously a ton of fun people dressing green. We're asking the the pros and the caddies dressing green. We'll have a lot of green beer. It's just a great party day. Saturday, we have started a concert series. This is our eighth year for the Valspar Live concert, and we've got Darius Rucker coming to play. So we're really excited. So anyone that has a Saturday ticket gets to go to this concert for free.

So that's a huge, huge day for us. Sunday, we're actually doing kind of a big charity day. We've got a really nice relationship with Feeding Tampa Bay, and we're asking all our fans and patrons to bring a canned good with them. And we're going to try and raise, you know, 10,000, 15,000. thousand cans of food for the Tampa Bay area and hurricane relief south of us. But then Thursday's theme is Ronde Barber Appreciation Day. So obviously with Ronde going into the Pro Football Hall of Fame class of 2023, it's going to be all about our general chair that day. So we don't even

care what players we have. It's going to be all about Ronde. Ronde's day. So we're going to do lots of fun activities. We're partnering with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers on this. There'll be a gate giveaway, a commemorative item that everyone will receive. He's going to be driving a gold, yes, basically a gold golf cart all week. We've got lots of fun areas that are going to be devoted to Ronde. You can't even tell them all the fun stuff because we want some of it to be a surprise.

But it's all going to culminate with a celebration of Ronde in his career and what he means to the Tampa Bay community, not only from a Buccaneer standpoint, but really what he means to this tournament and PGA Tour golf. And on the 18th Green, right after play. So a bunch of the bucks are coming, a bunch of his friends and coaches and obviously leadership from the Buccaneers, leadership from the PJ Tour and the Copperheads, our host organization. And we're going to, we're going to, and his friends and family, Claudia, we're going to have a really

nice celebration for him on the green on Thursday. And we're asking all our fans to come dressed in their favorite, you know, Buccaneer gear and obviously number 20. So. Consumint saleswoman. Who the hell of a job. I'm about to buy a jersey. right now. It's going to be a great week. Rhonda, I got to ask you, I mean, growing up playing football, obviously, a Hall of Fame career, did you ever see yourself involved in a golf tournament? Oh, my God, no. I grew up in the small town, southwest Virginia, and I used to see golf courses,

drive by them and be like, that is the biggest waste of space I've ever seen. I didn't get into golf until I may have played once in college in my last year, my fourth year at Virginia. but I picked it up when I got here. And I never thought I would be involved in golf. I just, I was a fan. I watched it. I didn't watch TCU or SMU play golf,

but, you know, I did know that golf is, was big in Florida. And my first year here, this is a great story because the guy whose job I eventually ended up taking on the Tampa Bay Buccaneer, this guy's name was Anthony Parker. He was 10 or 11 years in.

Every single Friday, My rookie year, he's like, Ronnie, let's go. We're going to go play golf. I didn't know what I was doing. I was hacking. I was trying to be an athlete, trying to play golf. And, of course, being a good athlete doesn't make you a good, good golfer at all. But it gave me the bug.

And, you know, I'd say 10 years later, I got kind of good at it. And I retired and got involved with this organization, copyright charities, joined their board. And it's been a nice, steady ride working with these guys since then. And my game has improved. Definitely since I retired. Lost all this bulk. I'm like a normal looking guy.

I look like a golf more than a football player and the game got better. So it's been a blessing, to be honest with you, be involved with it. And this is just a kind of accumulation of my years in golf and being a big part of this community, just getting this opportunity to be involved with Tracy and Valspar in the Copperhead charity group. Yeah, and y'all run one of the most fun events on the PJ tour. I was fortunate enough to play in it quite a few times. Talk about Valspar and y'all's relationship with them because they stepped up in a big way. In a big way.

I mean, this tournament over the year, so it started in 1977, right, as the JCPenney Classic. So the mixed team event, you know, with the LPGA. And then they were, JCPenney was a long-term sponsor. But once they stopped and the event became a standard PGA tour event, yeah, we had a various amounts of different titles between Chrysler and pods and transitions and even a year without a title. So there wasn't a lot of consistent. and a lot of, you know, financial support on a consistent basis. Valspar stepped up in a big way to save that tournament in 2014. The tournament was literally hours away from going to Puerto Rico. And Valspar, so ProLink Sports, our company brought Valspar, Hollis-Cavner Valspar to the table,

and they became the title sponsor. And now we've had multiple renewals with them. And this will be their 10th year as our title sponsor. But what they bring guys, and as you know, know, in Colton playing, it's really the strategic direction and the atmosphere, right? Early on, they said this is going to be the tagline, the most colorful PGA tour event in the world. And we live and breathe out every day. And so it's more than, hey, they're a fun paint brand. So we get to do a lot of fun things, you know, with their brand on course to really do fun activations for the fans that are coming out, even things like tiny homes that are painted in their colors of the year, to just the look. and the feel and the paint chips and the things that they create visually on this golf course,

but really just giving us the funding and strategic direction to do a lot of fun things. So we do a lot of activities for our fans. We're a big community happening now. So we've got 144 great PJ Tour pros, but we've got a lot of activities here at the tournament, and it keeps people coming up. Yeah, and I know both you are out here at the Phoenix Open, And Rhonda, you're probably used to being recruited, you know, coming up. All the colleges wanting you to go there.

But you guys were out here actually at the Phoenix Open doing a little recruiting yourself. Ronda, what was it like to be on the other side of recruiting? And who are you guys talking to? Right. Well, I had to be there for other reasons as well. Just the recruiting trip was a good, I'll say first reason to be there. Obviously, the honors was later that week. But we talked to most of the people Tracy wanted to get in front of were people that,

or guys, I should say, that had given interest and had said verbally that they were coming, this one just likes to have that look in your eye, hey, dude, are you going to show up at our tournament to play? You know, Adam Hadwin's of the world, who we had a chance to talk to at length and talking about his schedule. One of our challenges, as you guys know, is the schedule that the PGA tour has created with these designated events. And, you know, API, players, us, and then World Golf Championship. All three of those are elevated. So in order for us to have continued success that we've had for years now, the 10 years that we've been with Valspar,

we need guys to play multiple events. Vince, you know, take four weeks. And, hey, I've got to play four weeks in a row and I need to make a stop in Tampa or in Palm Harbor, I should say, to play the Valspar championship. So getting in front of guys and trying to convince them that they should come to us is part of the gig now. I think Tracy's very good at it. She's probably better at it than me. I'm not a guy that likes to, hey, dude, you want to play us?

You promise to come play us? But she's like, you're coming to play us, right? And it was a pretty unique experience. I did it last year with her. We went to Houston, right, Tracy? And along the same vein, trying to get guys just interested and looked them in the eye

and see if they really want to commit to us. And I think we created some traction with it. We got some good commits coming up. I'm excited for it. That won't be our issue. I don't think our field will be our issue. I think five months ago, talking to our board, and that was the big issue. Golf landscape has definitely changed, and we're in a tough spot.

And so that's been the biggest issue with some of our sponsors. It's the issue with our biggest sponsor, our title, with Valspar, who's going to show up? But I think we've gotten some good player commitments, and it's becoming less and less an issue. I'm pretty sure we're going to have a good field come March 13th. Yeah, the field's going to be very good. It's one of the best golf courses on the PGA tour, the Copperhead course, very challenging, always fun to watch. But one of the fun things y'all do is the nicknames on the caddy bibs.

They can put whatever they want. Who came up with that, and do you have any favorites? Yeah. It's a spring break. Exactly. You can do whatever you want during spring break. Well, so I have to give Andy Pazder at the PGA tour a lot of this credit. So he and I were talking and he kind of had this idea in the back of his head of taking one of the

PGA tour tournaments and make it like MLB. So the players week that they have on Major League Baseball where they can wear fun socks. They can do, you know, multiple different things. So he said, I really would love you guys to do this because it makes sense. You know, you are the most colorful PGA Tour tournament in the world. So he charged us with, hey, come back with some fun, cool ideas. So our team sat down and vowspar and so forth and really came up with a myriad of different activities. The two mainstays, so we've been doing this for five, six years now.

The mainstay being we're the only PJ tour event that, yes, as you said, the players can either put a nickname on the back of their caddies vest or like their social handle. And oh yeah, there's, you know, it's there's about the first year, maybe about 10 guys, 15 guys did it. They didn't really know what to expect and what to think. And now we'll probably have about 70, 80 of the guys out of the 144 do it. We now have to watch, though, because sometimes they'll put on, like, one of the players put on, like, their tequila brand. And our player services person didn't like catch it, you know, because it was in Spanish. You know, but it's, so they can't use it to market anything. It's truly just needs to be a nickname or their social handle.

So they do that. And then we're the only tournament that they get to put an honorary observer inside the ropes. So on the PJ tour, as you guys know, there's the opportunity where corporate sponsors can put in two people and follow along inside the ropes. You see them all the time on the broadcast. We can have up to five people inside the ropes. So two corporate sponsors, but each pro can put in a family, you know, a guest, a family member. So it's been kind of interesting, you know, it's like marital relations, like, do I put my wife in a girlfriend, do I not? If you be offended if I don't, you know, it's been kind of an interesting dynamic.

But those are just a couple of things that we get to do here at this tournament. And just to clarify, it's not, yeah, just to clarify, it's not wife or girlfriend. Yeah, I was going to say Thursday, wife, Friday, girlfriend, Thursday, or Friday, everyone wins. You know, a little something for everyone. That's great. We like to pick on one of your past champions here on this show, Gary Woodland. I think we need to get Jordan Speeith or one of the big name guys to put Gary's phone number on the back of him.

Oh, that'll have some fun with that. Maybe it's credit card number. Even better. Yeah. How many digits do we get? I'll tell you got, A, I just want to tell you guys, I think you're doing an incredible job of giving this tournament an identity. It's kind of hard to do on the PJ tour and you guys are doing a hell of a job doing that. You just mentioned like the bibs and the Darius Rucker and you got the double decker, which I want to talk about with Colt here coming up.

One of the things that grabbed my attention and would if I was a player is I believe the winner this year gets to have a mural painted. I don't know if it's of them or whatever they want in a town of their choosing. this seems like the opportunities are endless. And I would very much like to win that golf tournament. So that's one of the activations that Valspar gave us really coming out of COVID. And the original activation was back to bright. And we were going to do a mural in Tampa. And we ended up doing it in Clearwater at North Greenwood Rec Center.

And it was a huge success. This guy, local painter, Zulu painter, was his name, put this mural out. And it was phenomenally well received. And so the following year, Sarah Hackney from Valspar, our brand partner from Valspar said, we want to continue to do this, but it's not back to bright now. It's be bright. Let's continue to be bright. And so we did another mural.

And then last year's winner is this is where this started with the winner of the tournament. Brent Snetiker decided to do a mural in Tennessee where him and Mandy live. And so that was the first one. And then last year, Sam repeat winner got a chance to do his mural at, actually, I take that back. Brand was the paint can, right, Tracy? Yeah. Right.

It was a paint can. That's right. Because Sam won two years ago, too. We had every pro sign of paint can. And then we chose one of the pros and it ended up being Brant. Last year was the first time that we allowed the winner to pick his specific city or wherever, really, he wanted to do it. And Sam Burns pick Rust in Louisiana, which if you've never been to Rust in Louisiana,

it's about a town of a thousand, and the mural is a big, big deal there. So this year's winner will also get the chance to do that. And I think their B-Bright campaign is really important for not only to showcase Balspar paint, but to brand us, to brand Valspar and Valspar championship. And it goes a long way to really kind of quantum. to find the things that we we do for the PGA tour. Sam could fit every person in Rustin on that mural. No doubt about it.

I've been there. I have been there. Let's talk a little bit about this double decker like where I'm going to be staged. I cannot believe you are putting me in control of bringing up the players on 18. This is kind of terrifying. Yep. It's got a good run, guys. We're giving you a bike and this could be very dangerous.

But yes, basically what we're doing is going to double decker. for the first time at the Vals Bar Championship. So our biggest structure on the 18th Green, it'll be private hospitality underneath. But the upper deck is called the rooftop. So think of just exactly like a rooftop bar theme. And so it'll be a special ticket that people can buy. There's going to be a ton of celebrities up there each day,

Thursday through Sunday, Colt leading the pack, right? So we're going to give you a mic. So what's going to happen is, and I know we didn't explain this to you because you probably wouldn't have said yes. So we wanted to do to say yes first. Basically, there's going to be. music. So there's going to be a DJ, DJ Fresh, who's the famous DJ here in the Tampa Bay region. He's the DJ for the Tampa Bay Rays, et cetera. He's going to play music in between groups,

so just kind of low, just so there are the people on the rooftop to hear. But then you're going to, after the pro groups hit their approach shot, as they're coming up, instead of us just doing a normal and now coming to the green is, you know, Jordan's Beath and Sam Burns, you're going to do it. And you're going to say something fun about each of them. now and hang on but this is going to be heard so you're on like this will be surround sound all throughout hospitality and all throughout everyone that's at the 18th green so you can't mess up their mojo either so you got to say something fun so pressure's on but don't be messing up their mojo you know i have such a great relationship with all them out there and now you're just

you're totally trying to ruin this because i'm going to say something at some point and i'm like oh god Guys, Colt's probably too modest to tell you this to your face, but he's also an unbelievable dancer. And he was kind of hoping that in between groups with the music that he could get up top and dance for the people. Maybe some ones or whatever. I'm just saying he's hoping that could happen. So maybe you can facilitate that. But he's too modest. Wait to you see the rendering or wait until you show up, Colton, you see it.

This rooftop is an enormous space. It's beautifully laid out right now. There's nothing up there now. But you're going to see, you're going to have plenty of room to do whatever you want to. There is a dance floor. It's carpeted. Good, there you go. Very nice.

Cole, good. Big, big expectations here, buddy. 60 degrees in Scottsdale and I'm sweating right now. This is great. I love it. Well, we can out. Love the idea, Drew. Thank you.

I'm an idea of factory, Tracy, Ronda, you need anything. I know my guy. I know his skill set. You just holler at me. I got you. You're out. I got a few other things churning right now. We'll connect offline, as they say.

Well, we can't wait for it to get going. The Vospar Championship is March 13th through 19th. I'll be there. I cannot wait. Tracy, thank you so much. We're going to talk a little football with Ronde. All right. Thank you, Tracy. Have a great week. Appreciate your time. Bye. All right. Ronday, let's get down to some football here. Obviously, congratulations. Hall of Fame class of 2023. Let's just start it off right there. What was it like to get that phone call? God, I've been a finalist now three years in a row. I've been eligible for six years and I've been a semi-finalist all six years. The last three years, I was a finalist. Last year I got into the top 10.

So, you know, the finalist cuts down to 15. And then, unbeknownst to us, you know, my presenter told me this. Last year I got to the top 10. Once you get into the top 10, it's almost inevitable that you get in. And last year I got a call from Jim Porter, who's the head of the Hall of Fame now after David Baker retired. David Baker's a famous, big guy, you know.

But Jim Porter called me and said, I think I forgot what the number was, percentage of the guys that get to the top 10, it's almost guaranteed that they get in so your time is coming. So I felt good about it after the end of last year. And I had an inkling that this year was going to be the year because talking to Ira Kaufman, who was my presenter at the Hall of Fame, he said, everybody is talking about you. So the traction going into the boat, which was a month ago, was good. And apparently he presented it well. And it was really no doubt that this was going to be my year. So when Derek Brooks came and knocked on my door, and he's wearing his gold jacket and they call it the knock.

I was surprised, yes, but I was more relieved than expecting it. And so it was a heck of a moment. I mean, I'm 363 of 371. And there's been 30,000 plus players that played in the professional football because it's a pro football Hall of Fame, not just the NFL, that it played pro football. And to be in that, whatever that percentage is, it's truly all, inspiring for me.

I'm happy about it, but I'm also very excited for the people that, you know, love and care about me. And I think they're as happy as I am. So this is awesome, awesome couple of weeks here. Well, it's an unbelievable achievement. I just got to ask real quick about the knock. So do you have any idea, like what day it's going to happen or anything? Or is it just, what if you're not home?

Yeah, what if you're not home, exactly. I'm on vacation. So here's how this goes down. It's kind of a setup is what it is. So they voted on a Tuesday, right? They called my wife on Wednesday. day, the next day, and that she heard from it means that I'm in. So it's up to her to keep it a secret from me for a week so they can set up this knock, right?

And then it's her job, or it could have been an agent for other guys, whoever it is, to be in a specific place at the specific time. And so she made sure I was home. But look, I get home, I was playing golf that day. Come back, my mom's at the house. I'm like, why is my mom here? Like, she lives in Maryland. She lives in moral, and she hasn't done much traveling since COVID.

And she's here. I'm like, okay, my daughter's home from school. She goes to University of Chicago. She's in a house. I'm like, all right, something's going on. You know, and it's really, what else could it be? Right? Why else would all these people be here?

My best friend comes over, who actually works on the champion's store. He's at the house. I'm like, all right, this is it. And then like literally an hour later, not comes on the door. And I'm going to answer it. Clyde's like,

you need to go answer the door. And I go, I see the cameras outside. I'm like, okay, this is it. So I held it together. I held it together.

It would have been a hell of a mean prank if Derek Brooks shows up. It was like in a gold jacket. You almost made it. Not quite. Better luck next year. Question on the jacket. Do you get to like Augusta,

right? They get a jacket for the masters. Do you get to keep this jacket? And if so, is this something you get like, I would rock that around town. I feel like, I'd be no.

occasion where that doesn't play. I feel like Derek wears his all the time. Like he showed up at my door. He showed up at my door and I was like, do you wear that everywhere? I was kind of poking out of but yeah, I think you get a couple of jackets. They measured me at the at the Super Bowl, at our sizing day at the Super Bowl on that Saturday. And I think the one that's kept at the hall. There's one that's kept that I get to keep. So yeah, I'll wear it frequently. There's no doubt about it. trophy. Trophy you get to wear. That's nice.

Going to your golf a little bit, I understand your one and a half index. Is that correct? Hold on, let me check. I think it's like a 1.2 right now, Drew. Oh, wow, trending down. You got to get on the gin app a little bit. Let's see.

You're playing way too much golf. I am currently a 1.2. Wow. So, you know what that means? That means I play in tournaments and getting strokes that sucks yeah yeah there's good and bad to that one point too does this make you the best golfer of all former NFL players not counting quarterbacks they don't count no no there's there's some kickers like j feely yeah kicker like i don't know he's good is feeling you got

every time i play him i'm like you're not that good but he's good um i think what happens with me is that i play old memorial every week and it's you know i can shoot 75 there even because It's my course, but it doesn't travel. It doesn't travel well because of familiarity of that place. But it's rated high until my handicap goes down. But that's just because I know the course. I'm not that good. Is that where you normally play?

I was sandbagging already. I know, yeah. I was telling Sleeze about Old Memorial earlier, though. Old Memorial is fantastic. And it's hard. So I live three miles from there. You know Old Memorial Col. O Memorial is a great golf.

course, but it's a great place to hang. It's like an extension of my living room. So I'm there all the time. All the old. That is awesome. I'll play out here quite a bit too. I've been a member of Dennis Brook for a number of years before I joined the board. And then I'm out at Doyle's place, Dan Doyle's place, the Pelican over in Bel Air.

So I get around to play golf. I'm retired. I'm retired twice, man. I've played football for 16 years. Retired. Did TV for seven years for Fox Sports. That contract went away. And so I'm retired twice.

I'm 47 years old. What else am I going to do? You've retired twice and you look like you're still training like you're getting ready to go to an NFL training camp. Like, I mean, do you ever take a day off? Yeah. Do you ever eat something that's not good for you? What's your body fat? Yeah.

Yeah. It's probably in the teens now. When I was playing, though, it was like six and a half. I do remember that. But it's kind of like you, Colt, and your right. And this pinkie right here. I'm built for comfort, Ronde, not speed. All right. We mentioned earlier with Tracy that y'all were here at the WM Phoenix Open. Give me your thoughts on that. Had you ever been here before?

Yeah. So I went to, so my wife went to school at Arizona State. And so when we were dating, this guy, Anthony Parker, who I mentioned earlier, went to school at Arizona State. And he lived out in Arizona. And so I think it was my second year. So it was 99. We went back out to the tournament. And obviously, the tournament I saw a week and a half ago, two weeks ago, was not what I saw. 1899. I remember Tracy and I walked into the tournament on the 18th, is that gate right there on the 18th fairway. And looking over at that kind of panoramic view, down 18, you see 17 green right there. And then just the massive structure that's 16, all the way in the background horizon, it looks like a city. It looks like a big city from that vantage. I took a video and I sent to all my guys. I was like, this is ridiculous. But walking around that place, we were comment. that their Wednesday proam, a celebrity proam, whatever their proem is, probably has as many people as any two of our days at the Vals for our championship.

It's just that crazy. But it's an awesome event. I mean, and it should be. It's got the reputation that it does because they have a lot of loyal drinkers that want to come and watch golf. A loyal drinker. That's basically it. That is basically it. It's like 250,000 rust in it, Louisiana's on Saturday.

I said, I bet you there's 10% of the people here that actually care about the golf. The rest of them are just there for the party. That's probably the, it's awesome. Yeah, it's a good place to drink, and there happens to be some golf being played in the peripheral at the same time. When you're watching golf each week, who are your guys? Do you have guys you pull for? Who are you watching? Who do you like to see win, all that?

You know who I like? I love root for Tony Fennell. I met him once here at Valspar. This was years ago. And he was in some little restaurant right around the corner in Palm Harbor. And I was with Mark Russell, actually. I was going out to dinner with Mark Russell. And we walk in, he's like, oh, there's Tony Feene.

Now he, let me introduce you. Walked over, he said hello. This is the nicest human being ever. And I didn't even really know who he was. This is before he gained the traction that he has now in golf. But him, definitely. I've always rooting for Sam, because now that I know, know him. I have the vested interest. He's our two-time champ, so I have to have to pull for him.

And he's an incredibly nice guy with incredibly nice family. His wife is wonderful. Caroline's awesome. So for them for sure. But in the global sense of golf, I don't know. Maybe Jordan and Ricky, I really want to see. Because Ricky was a guy that I was kind of enamored with when he was younger because he's little, right? He's not a big guy. He got a weird swing. But I love the way he used to put it together, and then he lost it. I want to see him get it back, right? It's getting there.

It's a trend. When I see him, he's getting there. Other than that, you know, Colt knows when he played. I liked him. No, no more play. Just talking. There's his fan. Yeah, I got one fan.

Ronday Barber. I knew he was out there. You mentioned 16 years in the NFL, Tampa Bay Bucks. I know you're in the no. Give it to us right now. Does Tom Brady stay retired? Yeah, I think he's done. I think he's done. I think he's done. I think this year was so hard on him. I mean, they won eight games and it was hard to win eight games. I mean, they won a division. The NFC South stunk was awful. Although Carolina got good towards the end of the year. I'm not going to lie. I thought Carolina was going to beat us and win the division, to be honest with you. But I think this year was so hard on him for all the other reasons, too, but professionally to trying to will that team to, to, to, to eight wins and not playing great every single week, I think was enough.

I mean, you know how it is. You play professionally. You finished a year and you're telling yourself, if you're not successful, you didn't have a successful year that's over, you're like, I've got to go through all this just to do this again. And I think after doing it for 23 years, I think he's finally said, enough is enough. He does seem like he wants to spend more time with his kids. So I'd say he's retired, retired.

So if you're a Bucks fan, the Kyle Trask era in there starts right now. Get ready. There you go. It's nice to see Tom. That's it. Is that the only one? Only one right now. Tras time.

It's nice to see Tom following my footsteps, though, and signing that $375 million TV deal. Yeah. I mean, it's what we do after we retire. Right. Yeah. Yours was like, yeah, that. Yeah. That's a nice cushion to land on when you shut it down from playing competitively.

Like, that's a soft. landing. What should I do now? I don't have anything. Oh, here you go. Here's 360 just to talk about the sport you just play. Oh, okay. And I'm out. And we don't even know if you're going to be good at it. Yeah, you could be terrible, but we already signed you to it. I'll be interested to see if he ever does it. I want to, I mean, I don't know if he will or not. I mean, he took a year. He's taking a year, right? Because everybody's expecting to do Super Bowl. He's like, I'm not doing a Super Bowl. And I'm not calling games in 2024. So now you can expect or 2023. Now you can expect a CB in 24. What would they tell you, Colt, if they said,

if you said, all right, I'm done with golf. I know CBS wants to hire me, but I'm going to wait a year, and then I'm going to jump in next year. What do you think would happen? What would they say? What would they say? Are you read? I mean, yeah, you're and you're fired. And cool. We don't really need you anyway. Yeah. I signed as fast as they sent me that contract before they change their And Greg Olson doing as good as he's doing right now. Like that's like, you know, he's making it look easy, but it ain't. So remains to be seeing what Tom will do. I got a question.

And I've been curious about this for a while. I'm glad I finally get to ask you. You play corner in the league, your brother, running back. Okay. How was that determined? Were you always better on the defensive side or did coaches just figure we need one of them on the field at all times growing up? Because the same measurable, same everything. Like, how do you end up on different sides?

That's a great question. I get that a lot. And the reality is he was always bigger than me. He's bigger to me and he's faster to me. So he looked more like a running back. I mean, I graduated from high school, going to University of Virginia. And we ran track as well. So I was a runner.

But I weighed 149 pounds when I graduated from high school. And so go back to like junior high and like little league. And I was like maybe the skinniest guy on the team. So Tiki had a little bit more ass, let's put it that way. than I did. And he looked like a running back. I did not look like a running back. So I had to get on the field somewhere.

So I just, I played defense in recl league and in middle school. And even in high school, it was hand a ball of the tiki go right. Hand a ball, Tiki go left. Hand a ball of Tiki go to the middle. So I was going to play running back. I wasn't going to touch the ball anyways.

So I ended up on the defense of the ball. And it was, it was a good, good decision by me. That was a good smart move. Pretty good coaching move. By both of y'all. It worked out all right for him being running backs and for you being a corner.

All right, let's get to the E9 before we get out of here. I know he might have been bigger and stronger and faster. I just want to tell you this off record, you're better looking. Right, right. He can't pull off the stylish grayish beard that I can. He likes to keep his closely shaved so he could look good. I don't know, whatever. I'm definitely better looking.

I came out about it. I have that designation. Yeah, older, better looking brother. Exactly, dude. All right. We ask this to everyone. And if you say Tiki, you have to re-answer because that's not fair. If you can be anyone for a day other than yourself, who would it be?

Eldris Iba. Oh, yeah. Good one. Edris Elba. Yeah. Yeah, Idris Elba. Yeah, I want to be him. I want to be him too.

You want to be him to? He's the smoothest. Yeah. He's the smoothest dude ever. I mean, if you, have you ever watched the show? It's a British show. It's called, he's a detective and he's just messed up. He's a drunk.

It is the best acting I've ever seen. I was like, if I ever came back as a British private detective, I'd want to be that guy that Idraselba plays in that show. I can't think of the name of the show right now. I got to check this out. He's good in everything. From the wire, Stringer Bell. I never thought when I saw Stringer Bell.

I was like, this thing's going to be it. He might be the next. He might be Bond at some point. what? The funny thing you say that, I watched when I was younger, I watched the first episode, the first season of that. And I, and I just went away from, I never watched it again. About five years ago, I watched the whole thing over again. And I was like, I didn't, I did not remember that he was in that. Did not know that he was that, that, that he was that, that, uh, that involved in that show. What a great show. Wired may be the best show ever on TV.

That's, that's when it's Lees his favorites. My number one fan forever after that. Every time I saw, like, oh, string a bell. String a bell is in that. Now it's, now it's like dude that's a that was a you know that was a stepping stone even though I think it's about sure ever made a lot of people agree all right give my first one here let me see where I want to start I give me this one the one wide receiver you hated to line up against more than anyone you're just like damn I got a full game Randy Moss and when I first got in the league we played them twice here in Minnesota he was a pain in the butt man well him he's he sucked to cover

him but it also sucked to cover Chris Carter like they have two Hall of Fame wide receivers on that on that team and they had a guy Jake reed who was about six five on that team so Minnesota in general but really Randy because he was just he was six four and just just the two athletic to be that big you could run it could catch uh the other guy that I always say is Steve Smith because I played against them most of my career when he was in Carolina and he was a problem like we didn't change our defenses for many people but we had to make adjustments for those two so people ask me his question it's an easy answer the two guys that we had to change defenses for

were Steve Smith and Randy Moss and they were tough. Steve Smith is like a small version of like a tight end. But he's like 5-9, you know, 200 pounds and he outworked you and he played like he was 6-5-250. He was awesome player.

Side-fysical. Side question, better trash talker, Steve Smith or Randy Moss. Ooh, that's a little. So here's a good one. Randy was kind of quiet. I mean, he got that country accent. He just, you know, kind of, all right, man, I'm going to get you.

You don't, you know, Steve Smith, if you got him mad, he turned into a better player, right? And so I used to go into every game and walk up to him pregame, give him a hug. You know, what's up, man? How the wife, how's the kids? Yeah, man. Season's going good for you. Right. He's like, man, and I get him talking and, like, get him friendly, you know, because I didn't want him to be mad at me.

If he got mad at you and he started talking, because he could talk, man. He would purposely start a fight just to get himself going. Oh, yeah. He got him upset. It was over with. So I was like, hey, good play, man. You make a catch on me. Yep, good catch, bro.

Good catch. I just didn't want to be, McDoug. You're the best. I met him last, or at the Phoenix Open. He was on the phone with somebody. Someone was introduced me to him, and he was just giving somebody the business on the I was like, maybe now, maybe not the time. Not a good time.

Big, dudes. Big, bigger than you think. All right. Next one. Do Teke and Ronde Barber are they the greatest set of twins in the history of sports? Yes. The only other one that would be close, I feel like is the Brian brothers in tennis. I mean, but they've teamed up together and they're pretty good.

But have two play different positions, different teams. Yeah, look, two of us, both the best at their respective teams at their respective positions, one's in a Hall of Fame. Tiki has an argument to be in a Hall of Fame. He's one of one. He's the only guy in NFL history with 10,000 yards rushing, 5,000 yard receiving, and 1,000 yards returning. During his career, his only peers, really, were Ladani and Tomlinson and Marshall Fault. Those are the only two guys that had reception and rushing numbers like Tiki did, except Tiki doesn't get the love. So he has a case to be in Hall of Fame.

So are there any other twins that have Hall of Fame credentials? I don't know of. Settles up. I think Twins is a slam dunk. Brothers, you open up the door to some other. The Kelsey's right now are doing some things. Kelsey. Twins, I think you've got that.

I think you've got a monopoly on that. Yeah, there's so many brothers. There's a thousand brothers in it. It seems like in the NFL right now and obviously other sports as well. But yeah, twins got that one cornered, buddy. You got a good set in golf actually right now. Rasmus and I can't remember the other one, Toy Guard from over. They play on the European tour, a lot of DP World Tour.

The Hoyboard brothers. What about the we just gave them a sponsor's exemption. Cudy, right? Aren't the twins playing golf? Yeah, yeah. They're very good. Have you heard the story about them, by the way, how they both got hurt? No.

Oh, yeah, this is some, you might appreciate this. They are twins. Weird shit. They are at workouts for golf at the University of Texas. They're doing like a relay race, and the last leg is them, and they're sprinting, riding to the finish, and they run through the end zone into the, Matt that is at the back wall and they break the same bone and the same arm at the same time the same time yes it's can't make it up so no get this get this teke and i it's weird tiki broke his forearm

i broke my forearm different years right tiki tore his PCL on his right knee like in early 2000s i tore my PCL on my right knee like a couple years later 2000 it's it's bizarre it's bizarre that you just weird that yeah it's crazy some little telepathic stuff going on and you can communicate without talking there's a lot of weird stuff going on that's that's that's just all right we talked about we talked about this with with Tracy a little bit earlier but if you're let's say you were playing in the vowsbart and your brother was cadding for you okay and so you get to put whatever you want on the back of the bib what are you putting on for tiki oh if tiki's wearing it yeah yeah he's wearing it.

I could say something really bad, but can I say something bad on this? That's what we're here for. Yeah, that's what we're here for. Sloppy seconds. Sloppy seconds? I like that. That's good.

That's very good. I like that a lot. He came out of the womb second. He's going to have to get in the Hall of Fame second. I'm just better at everything. So he's second. Yeah, dude. You just lead the way.

Oh, that's awesome. I should set that up. I'm sure you could get it. You're playing out there at some point. Maybe get him come down. Don't tell him about the bit, though. He actually comes down. He plays in our celebrity stuff on Sunday before and Monday.

He runs marathons now, so he's running our 5K that we have on Sunday morning prior to our week, so the 12th. But yeah, he's down. He doesn't play a lot of golf. He's probably, he could probably be cold these days, but, you know, he's false. I have played with that man, and he will never beat me at the game of golf. Sorry, Tiki. I love you. I don't think I'll ever see him again ever without thinking sloppy seconds.

I think it's one of those things that's just going to stick with me. Oh, sloppy second. Not, not Ronde. Yeah. He did tell me, this is my next question, the only bragging right on the golf course he does have on you was on draft day. Yeah, he's got that. He's got that. Tell us a story about draft day.

So I don't, so this is funny. So I don't remember if this is a fake story or if it really happened. So on draft day, so I'll give you. the whole draft day. We actually play golf. We play golf with a friend of ours who was the, who was our RA, our first year at UVA. His name is Chip Roy. He's actually a senator from, or congressman from Texas now. The great guy, but he was with the golf team at the time at University of Virginia. He's like, you take you, I'm going to take you guys to play golf so you're not thinking about where you're going to get drafted. You know, back then,

it wasn't the televised event that it is now. It was, you just got a call, you know, hey, we're going to pick you. So, We're on, I think, 16 at Birdwood golf course in Charlottesville where the UVA team plays. And we're in the middle of the fairway. He gets a call. It's Jim Possible. Tiki, we're going to draft you with the sixth pick of the second round. Great.

Tiki hits his shot, and apparently he buries it. That's his first ever birdie. See, now I can't remember if it's hyperbole or if we just made that up or if he actually really did. it. I don't think he actually really did it, but I think we use that as a story just to be cute. But here's what happened next. So the third round, I get drafted, six pick of the third round. The third round is literally three hours later, right? So I'm waiting forever. We go to dinner. I'm like, I got a yard of beer. We go to this place. I got a yard of beer. I'm just like on my fifth one. I'm like, there, I'm not getting drafted. I'm not drafted. I'm not.

And then it finally comes. Tony Dungy calls me. I get picked 30 picks behind him. So he definitely has that designation over me. He always will. But I'm calling BS on that birdie. It didn't happen. I'm just saying it didn't. To be fair, he didn't tell me about the birdie.

He just said, I got drafted on the 16th O'Ronday got drafted well into the 19th all. He goes, last time I have any bragging rights on the golf course. That's about it. That's about right. That's good. I like that. It's good. All right.

Give me this here. I know you played corners, so you're not involved like the lines were, but the scrum, when there's a fumble. Yeah. What kind of gnarly stuff goes on down there? What's the worst thing you've ever seen at the bottom of a scrum for a fumble? Everything. Imagine it. Imagine it and it happens.

I avoid piles like the play. You know, and there was a reason, because there was a guy that played for Virginia. His name is Anthony Poindexter. He was coming, walking up, running up to a pile, and a guy jumped over a pile and just blew out his knee. destroyed his career. He played like a year in the NFL, but he was the best player I'd ever played with. Piles are

gnarly, man. You get in there and you're only in there for one reason to get the ball, right? At the bottom, if it's a loose ball, you're trying to get the ball, people will do whatever is necessary to get the ball. Because once you're in the pile, they can't see it. And back when I was playing, the

cameras didn't really zoom in on it. Now, it's like, it's a clear fumble recovery like plays over. Back then, the ball could change hands three times underneath the pile. And so, you know, chin, straps, all this stuff, wrestling moves, grab your crotch, whatever. It didn't matter. It did not matter. Anything went underneath there. And he just tried to get people to let go of the ball, man. But I scored on six, I scored six touchdowns on fumbles in my career. And every single one of them was like a good bounce. So I was just kind of running away from piles. I hate piles, dude. Hate them.

No scrubs for Ronda. That's why you played six. 16 years. Yeah. Nothing good happens in piles, man. Well, yeah. Nothing that we can talk about good happens in piles. Every time I see him, I'm like, what is going on down there?

Just all kinds of mayhem. All right. Next one. I don't care how old you are. You'll always remember the first time you meet Michael Jordan. Yeah. Give me your first time you met the great MJ. Oh, man.

So this was my, the year we got drafted, this was prior to that. And we were with my manager. financial manager at the time from CSI, and we're in Carolina. And it's me, Tiki, Jamie Sharper, if you remember that name, played for the Baltimore Ravens, James Ferrier, you got drafted by the Jets, but all Virginia guys. And they're taking us out to a club. And I forget what club it was. It was somewhere in Carolina.

We go in the door, Javon Kerriss was with us, if you remember that name, all same managers. And walk in and it's just kind of walking through. and there's like this little balcony up top there, right? And sitting there and I'm like, so I're in hand, I'm just kind of leaning over the deal. I guess Michael George. I've never been all struck. Until that point, I'd never been all struck.

And I was like, that's Michael Jordan. Holy, you know, and just mind. I don't even remember what happened the rest of the night. But the first time I met him was in Tahoe, like Tahoe. I don't know if Tiki told you this story, Cole. But so this was, let's say, 2006 or seven. I'm playing. Tiki's carrying my bag, actually.

He wasn't carrying. As he should be, sloppy. And Tiki and I walk in with some friends and go to this club at the hotel. And there's just one table that's kind of sitting off by itself. We're novices. We have no idea what we're doing. We're just like, what do we do? go to the bar, we just sit at this table.

So we took the table, right, and just sat there. And about 10 minutes later, 15 minutes later, this huge hand comes over my shoulder. And just like, it's like, hey, boys, you're sitting on my table. It was MJ. And I'm like, sorry, you know, sorry. And he's like, now, y'all stay there. It looks like you need it more than I do. And he sent us over some drinks.

And I was like, we sat there. That's awesome. At Mr. Jordan's table. But, yeah, that was the first time I met him. I spent some time with them. His coach, Doug Collins, was coaching. Remember we was at the Wizards at the end of his career?

Doug was John Lynch's neighbor in San Diego. And so John and I went over from Tampa to go watch them play the magic. And I remember it will game MJ, one of his, maybe in his last season, MJ's last to come out of the showers. We're sitting in the locker room talking to Doug. And MJ pulls up a chair and the four of us sat there for an hour and just talked about whatever. It was pretty awesome, man. So he's a legend, man.

He's 60 years old. He's still a legend, dude. Always will be. Always will be. Always will be. All right, my last one here. I need complete honesty out of you here, Ronde. Any point in your lives, did you and Tiki ever do the old twin switcheroo?

I'm talking a date, sports, put on his uni, school. anything. No, there's in school. Not one time. In school, certainly not. Because Tiki is a d'or. You know this cold. Tiki is a nerd, man. He is, I would, if he would, he would go to my classes and ate him.

I would have gone to his classes and been like brain spinning, man. Like he was, he's a valedictorian over high school. I couldn't, I couldn't do that. There is supposedly one girl that knows us both biblically, but she knew what she was doing.

Okay, fair. Okay. I was about to say, dude, I need you to take one for me. This girl's driving me crazy. Slide in there. Just give us, just be a horrible date and get this thing over for me, dude. All right. Last one.

That one. All right. Good. All right. I knew there had to be. All right. Last one. I've heard you've pretty much played golf everywhere, including Augusta National.

How many times you played Augusta National? I only played it one time. And it was with someone. Yes. somebody that I intercepted for a touchdown once, but it was one of the greatest players of all time. Yeah. Peyton took me to Augusta. It was pretty cool.

I went to school with Peyton's wife, Ashley, graduated from the MacArthur School of Commerce at UVA with us. So I've known Peyton since he was 18 years old and maybe 19 years old. He was still maybe a second year at University of Tennessee. And so he put together a trip with him, his brother-in-law, Will Thompson, who played at Virginia, and then another quarterback who actually lives in Augustine now that was also at Virginia. This guy named David Rivers. He called me, and he said, this was four years ago. Yeah, because it wasn't my 20th.

It was my 19th anniversary. And he goes, hey, what are you doing February 26th? And I'm like, nothing. My anniversary is on February 24th. And I was like, nothing. Why? He's like, you want to do a wife's trip to Augusta? And I'm like, yes.

Claudia, we're no longer going our anniversary trip. We're going to Augusta. So that was it. Have fun, honey. Yep, here we go. Good news for everyone, babe. Right. We did the par three.

She got to play, I think, the back nine. They just wanted to play nine holes. I think they played the back nine. It's awesome. I've been there many times to watch a tournament, but to get on it, unreal. Special play. Is it your favorite?

Yes, because you know every hole. I mean, having never played it, and yet you know every single hole, every single shot. And not that I executed it at all, but it was pretty cool, man. That's awesome. Well, Ronde, thanks to you and Tracy for joining us.

Can't wait to see you at the Valspar here in just a few weeks. Really appreciate you coming on with us. Colt, I can't wait to put you. you to work buddy it's gonna be fun get that ronde get that dancing set up get that dance floor set up he's he's gonna be set up all right he said he's not gonna do it unless he can dance you are the worst so i'm out of here i'll send you some highlight reels some sizzle reels thank you so much ronde i appreciate thank you guys all right well that was a fun one slees sitting to talk with tracy west ronde barber about the vows bar it's gonna be a lot of fun i can't wait to get down there but let's just touch on

ronde i mean can you imagine obviously he kind of sensed something was getting set up when all of a sudden his mom was in town. All of a sudden, everybody was being kind of weird. And then Derek Brooks knocks on your door. That's how you find out you're in the Hall of Fame. Huge missed opportunity. You didn't get in. You wanted to come say hi.

It was close. Maybe next year. Hello, friend. See you later. Flew your mom in. Thought you'd want to hear it firsthand. But man, what an honor that is to be among some of the select few to get put in the NFL Hall of Fame.

And he deserves it. He's a stud. Also doing a great job down there at Valspar. But how about- Cheeky into the mix. And let's get that sloppy seconds on the old, How good is that? I love this idea they do.

I mean, this should be a bet with some players. We should have had this going on. So at Valspar, obviously they do. The caddies can put a name on their bib instead of just having stults. You can put something fun on there if you want. Players should have a little action, you know, maybe the week before, a low guy gets to pick what goes on. Obviously, nothing inappropriate.

Oh, of course. But it would be a lot of fun. It would be great. I mean, we got Harry Higgs and Joel Damon getting naked on 16th Green and Phoenix Open. You know what I mean? Let's spice this thing up. I think it would be perfect. Perfect.

Drink a little cold beer. Exactly. But there's some good, good shit that can be put on those bibs that I think would, you know, juice up the action a little. You're sitting there in 45th and the guy your bettons in 40th. Like, oh my God, we got to make a move here. What would you put on mine? Dumb shit.

No, that's nice. Thank you. I would put, I have to do some thinking on that. Yeah, I agree. It would take a little time. You can't just put some gravy or sleeves. We got to do something. Like, Cruz's done good, like Joel Damon put kick me, I think, on the back of

Gino's did me. Mark Hubbard had something to do with a cougar. Yeah, like leaping coo. Yeah, something like that. Leaping Cougar. Some dudes put their Twitter handle. I think we could spice it up a little. But I'm sure there's also some parameters on what's allowed and what's not.

That's my sloppy second. I was like that. Slopi second is good. You know what I mean? That's good. We aren't violating anything. All right. Well, let's get to some picks this week.

Last week we had some fun. First off, Scotty Sheffler had a great chance to win the golf tournament. Made bogey on the last really hurt me in a lot of my stuff I have going on. But we did a little fun parlayed of top 20. My guy, our guy, we pick him, it seems like every week. I also like him again this week at the players, shockingly. But we had top 20 for Cory Connors, Will Zalotoris.

Connors was in there all week and then kind of threw up on himself a little bit on the weekend, made a lot of mistakes, end up finishing T-21. I actually feel better that he did that because I was like, damn it. I had Zalotaurus. He hadn't even sniffing when he greased out the cut. And I was like, here we go. Get off early on the weekend. Go do something.

This is backdoor top 20 waiting to happen. Clearly wasn't going to happen lately. And I was like, oh, God, I'm going to get here. I'm going to get the wrath for messing up the bet. But we're going to come back strong. We're going to go back with another parlay. We'll come back with another parlay this week. It's a big time event.

The Players Championship, 43 of the top 50, $25 million purse, $4.5 million to the winner. No big deal. It's hard to go wrong. Obviously, I feel like you're going to take one of the top guys here. Not many people fluk it around here, except for maybe me when I got a little hot one day.

But that's story for another day. I remember that day. Of course, record, if I'm not mistaken, it'll be up on the. screen it'll be there please nobody break it's all i have left for the love of god be shit weather again for my favorite i'm going with a past champ around here he's one of the best iron players in the game which i think is very important around here the weather does look pretty good i mean they're they're saying wins you know 10 to 20 possibly but nothing crazy like we saw last year that was fun though

wasn't it was he was in good shape going this weekend didn't have the weekend he wanted at bay hill but yes he rises to the occasion in these big time events he's going off at night to one. I think that's some pretty good value. JT. Justin Thompson. Okay. Yep. The past champ. Place, he can shine. There's nothing bad to say about a JT pick. I'm also playing it a little closer to the top of the betting boards than I have in weeks past. My got 17 to 1 coming off a T4 this past week. Just two shots behind Kittiyama. Made a nice little move. Final round minus four. Hasn't had his best stuff in years past at Sawgrass, which I can't really understand. Throw away last year. Throw away last year, because the weather's up, but it hasn't been great, but I'm like, how? How is it not? I don't think

there's a bad course for him, but this one is just like, this should be tailor-made. I'm going Patrick Cantley. I could be wrong on this, but I believe him and Zander Schauffley have both missed three cuts in a row at the players. He's definitely missed at least the last two. I know that, which is, I mean, how many cuts have they missed, period. Yeah. All right, my dark horse, this is some value right here, but I love his iron game. If it does happen to get windy, he's very good in the win. He's got a T-7 and a T-5 here at the players. This is possibly a top 20 bet for me. But if you're going to go outright winter, you want to get a little dangerous. Why not take, just follow Jesus. Fairway Jesus. Tommy Fleetwood. Yeah, been a while since we had

a little fairway Jesus pick on the show. 85 to 1. 85 or? Yeah. God, that's hard to believe. Given a couple years ago. All right, Fleetwood in the house. I'm going to go with another guy, Colt, as opposed to my favorite pick who doesn't have the best track record here. This guy's got nice little form around Sawgrass 13th last year, eighth the year before. If it's windy, I love him even more. But he gets it going. He's one. big time turns before major champ going off at 48 to 1 Shane Lowry and playing good like he's I mean dude he's just so due for a win he deserves one at this point made a whole and one at 17 yeah exactly no big just good vibes and he just can the kid get one he got pimp last year at the Honda the weather

kind of came in and messed them up you know about that bad break on the 72nd he did when it's been club you know he won an open championship in Ireland that's true pretty good well yeah that's but I'm saying since then like give my get the kid one you know hey listen you're not going to hear me rude against Shane Lowry. I love that man. He's my guy. But it's time to drive for show and bet for dough this golf season on Fandul. Right now, new customers can get a no sweat bet up to $1,000 back and bonus bets to tee off the PGA Tour season. You can have top 20s, head-to-head matchups, parlays like we're going to throw at you. And if you've been thinking about joining Fandle, there's no better time to get in on the action. The app is easy to use. They're always hooking

you up with great odds. And when you win, you get paid instantly. And if you're in Massachusetts, get ready because Fandle is coming soon. sure you check out fandul.com slash mass and take advantage of their great pre-live offers. So step up to the tee and take a swing at betting the PGA Tour. Go to fandul.com slash subpar and sign up. That's fandul.com slash subpar to get a no-swept first bet up to $1,000 in bonus bets. FanDuel, official betting operator of the PGA Tour. All right, FanDuel is offering online sports wagering in Kansas under an agreement with

Kansas Star Casino LLC. Gambling problem, call 1-800 gambler or visit fandul.com. slash RG in Colorado, Iowa, Michigan, New Jersey, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Illinois, Tennessee, Virginia, 1-800 next step, or text next step to 53342 in Arizona, 1-88-78-9-7-7-7. Or visit ccpg.org slash chat in Connecticut, 1-8009 with it in Indiana, 1-800-522-470, or visit KSgamblinghelp.com in Kansas. 18777-7-70. Stop in Louisiana. Call 1-800-3-3-2-2-7-7-0. Stop in Louisiana. Call 1-800-300. 327 5050 or visit mahelpline.org slash problem gambling in Massachusetts or visit mdgamblinghelp.org in Maryland 18778 Hope NY or text hope in NY that's 467-369 in New York or 1,800 522-470470 in Wyoming or visit

1 800 gambler.net in West Virginia. Get rich but get rich responsibly obviously. Exactly. It's going to be a great week out at TPC Sagres. Nobody shoot lower than 63. That's all I have to ask. We'll talk to you on next week's golf subpar.