Subpar - Sam 'Riggs' Bozoian Interview: Going from Harvard to Barstool Sports, Interviewing Tiger Woods

Episode Date: April 20, 2021

On this week's episode of GOLF's Subpar, Barstool Sports' Sam 'Riggs' Bozoian joins PGA Tour pro Colt Knost and his close friend and on course rival Drew Stoltz for an exclusive, in-studio, interview. The host of the ForePlay podcast talks how he went from playing hockey at Harvard to covering golf for Barstool Sports, his experience interviewing Tiger Woods at Shadow Creek, and if he will ever man up for a Foreplay vs. Subpar showdown.

Hello, world. Welcome to another week of golf subpar. I am Colt Nost. He is the sleazy man, Drew Stoltz. What a week for Stuart Sink at the RBC Heritage. Absolutely dominating performance. You know, picks up his third tartan jacket around that, join his eighth career PGA tour win at 47 years old, quite the performance, sleaze. Yeah, it was clinical. I'm sure it was fun for him. I'm sure it was fun for everyone in the Sink family. If you were at home watching golf on Sunday and hoping a shootout might break out, wasn't the most exciting event on the PJ tour, but that's credit to Stewart's Sink. Came out, shoots 126 on Thursday, Friday, 63, and he pretty much had a strangle hold on it at that point and never let up. I thought going into Sunday, we'd see this thing get close. I thought Colin Moracawa, clearly the most likely guy to do that. Comes out, birdie's one. I was like, here we go. This thing's going to get tight. falls that up with a bogey on two and really i mean dude there was no drama to speak of i wish we

could go off on something crazy that happened this week but after that second hole with colomor cow that thing was pretty much done it only got to three i think at the closest that was at the very end it was going to take some sort of a miracle for him to not win but uh tip of the cap to stewie sink i was watching the cult when i say i thought it was going to get close like we see guys get leads and then it shrinks up and things like that but watching stewart sink clean up some puts from about four feet and then there was a lot going on he's got the great There was some moving around. There's just a lot of energy and brain being used on those.

And I thought that's where we're going to see it. But it really didn't happen. I mean, he cleaned him up. Nice. Yeah, he played great all week. Yeah, the short puts were a little stressful. But at the end of the day, he got it done. And it was a dominating performance.

Really cool to see it, 47 years old. Picks up his second win of the season. And things are good in the sink family. But you know what else up? We got some good news, so we got some more merch coming everyone's way. You can see the little, the hat there, the subpar hat. We got some hats, visors, all kinds. and new things coming. Y'all have been awesome.

Went up, bought all kinds of stuff. We sold out in like two days, which was really cool. But we got more coming, more designs. They're going to be available in thegolf.com pro shop. Go check that out. Click on the subpar collection and go get yourself some subpar merch, some birdie juice. It is awesome. The reviews have been great. So we really appreciate y'all buying all that merch, and we will keep it stocked for y'all. But, ladies, we got a guest this week. Kind of call him a friend of me. You know, he moved to Scottsdale, tried to take over our stomping grounds, I've tried to, you know, poach on our guests a little bit, I would say, but our guys were loyal.

They stayed away for the most part. But this guy, he has built quite the brand. I mean, you got to give him that. He has done an unbelievable job. He has taken the golf division at Barstool to a whole other level. He is rigs from the foreplay pod. And quite a story he has. Yeah, it was fun getting into it.

You know, I didn't know rigs at all until he moved here. Now we've gotten to hang out a few times and things like that. We're going to be playing some golf upcoming. But you got to, you got to, you know, give him the credit they deserve. Barstool is a monster. They're the behemoth on the block. They are like the blue, you know, gold sander. I'm sorry, for, you know, all this social media and all the digital stuff, podcasts. And Riggs has built a beast at Foreplay. It was, but it was fun talking to him and you'll see it in the interview, kind of the story of how he got there. We've all heard the show. We all kind of know the characters that are on that podcast, but I didn't really know the background of how he got from where he was to how he was running, you know, the four play podcast. It was cool to get a little background and inside story. And it's been good getting it's been fun getting to know him now that he's been spending all the winner in Scottsdale. Yeah, he's blast. I've played with him a few times. He's a golf freak.

He let the whole world down. He had a chance to get Paige Sparantic in her underwear. You'll hear all about that and more here with Riggs on Golf Subbar. All right. What a monumental event this is here. Three of the sharpest golf minds of our generation, I would say, in the same place, at the same time. We're with the host of Barstools' Four Play Podcast.

You know him. You love him. Sam Riggs Bozoian. Did I say it right? You nail it. That's actually pretty good. Perfect. People, man, I had some teachers mess that up bad, especially in like Missouri. So I've had a lot of bad pronunciations of my name.

What was some of the worst with you? One, she, we had a, it was in when I was in like sixth grade and we had a substitute teacher. Whenever he had a substitute teacher, they would call, you know, like attendance at the beginning of class. And she said like, like, Bose E.I. Ian? Yeah. And I just was like, was that me? It was like Costanza. Went to cartwright?

Like, I'm cart right. I was like, who are you talking about? That's awesome. And it's a tricky one. Well, there's a lot of vowels. There's three vowels in a row. Oh, I am.

Yeah, you're like a Hawaiian. You just don't see it. A lot of vowels. Right. So it's a mix. I get it. And so I was just bozo forever.

Who calls you Sam now to this day? Anyone other than parents, maybe? Almost in my, my, so one of my best nicknames, obviously I play hockey growing up and in college, no big deal. And my,

my dad calls me Sam Bonie. I get it. Yeah, good luck. Really good. I get it. I get it. It's a huge nickname guy. My mom always just calls me Sammy B.

Okay. Real simple. Like Sammy B, what up? Do any of your friends, like, even know that your name's Sam? Nowadays, it was always either Bozo and now they love that it's Riggs because nobody ever called me Riggs and I just kind of hoodwinked like Dave and Big Cat when we were going with nicknames because I didn't want to be called Bozo anymore. So you just picked your own?

Yeah, it was so stupid. I remember I got hired kind of in a whirlwind. Like I'm employee number 19. So it was five years ago, Barstool was way smaller, way less legitimate of a company. And Camarco, Keith, who was the editor-in chief for a long time, was just like, hey, dude, I'm creating your login. Like, what do you want your nickname to be? Because nobody wrote under their real name.

It was either KFC or it was L. Perez or Big Cat or whatever. And I was like, I don't know. And he's like, well, I'm creating the login. What do you want it to be? I was like, my middle name's Riggs. And he's like, cool. And he just created the login.

And now everybody calls me Rigg. Oh, so that wasn't even like growing up nickname. You just said, I need a login. Here we go. And I want to be bozo. A few people called me Riggs. Like, I'm named after, like, Samuel Riggs was a family member back of the day, which, so, like, they go together nicely, but they never,

Riggs was never, like, its own thing. I like it now because, like, nobody's fucking called Riggs. So. Yeah, you're one of one. You're like a one name or, like, Prince and Beyonce. I'm not. There's, uh, there's like a singer-songwriter whose name is Sam Riggs as well. And I think he's kind of rattled because he's like, I'm pretty good.

I'm really good. Idiot blogger game. It's, you Google Sam. Chips nine times. Yeah, he got screwed. Sorry, dude. Let's talk a little bit about your upbringing, though. Like, when did you get introduced to the game of golf?

Obviously, you were a hockey player at some school, northeast, a little commuter college? There must have been a good deal. There's no way to tell people you went to Harvard without sound like an asshole. Because if you downplay it, you're being like belittling. If you're like, oh, it's small school up in Cambridge, you're like a belittling dickhead. And then if you're just come out with it, someone's like, oh, where you go to say? Like Harvard.

They're like, oh, okay. Yeah, you got to announce it. There's just no way to say it. So, yeah, I played college hockey. I played a little bit of golf as a kid with my old man. You know, like, he just loved to go to the driving range. My dad's a grinder. So, like, he just loves to go to the range and hit balls.

We would go to the range of hit balls a good amount. Then for, like, eight, ten years, I probably didn't play really any golf until my older brother who's four years older than I am. He was in college. His buddy's got him into golf. You always want to do your older brother's doing when you're younger, you know, younger brother. So he would kind of hit me up, and he played college hockey at Ferdonia State up in upstate New York. He'd be like me and my boys are playing golf, so then I just got into golf summertime whenever we'd kind of train, workout, whatever for hockey.

We'd just play golf in the afternoon. And since I was probably 16, 17, I've just been obsessed with golf. Let me ask you this, though, about hockey. Did you get into Harvard more because your hockey skills or academics? Come on. But there's no athletic scholarship. Don't ask you a question. You know the answer, too.

Don't be a dick out about it. You don't just slide in there with some bullshit SAT score and be like, oh, I also play hockey and they sign you up. It's a mix. So I believe schools require. like an academic performance index, which essentially every team has to meet an average. So we would always laugh like we would, you know, you could get kids in that weren't as impressive academically. But then if you look like the third or four string goalie on every hockey

team is like a genius. Brain surgery. Right. So it was a good mix. Like I, after I was already accepted to Harvard, I was still taking the SATs because if I got a higher grade or score, they could potentially recruit somebody with less academic. Yes. You know.

Freeze it up. Yeah. So it was, so it's a little bit of a mix. Like, no, you can't just be like, there's certain people that probably went to other schools, state schools or whatever that couldn't have gotten into Harvard. But it's also not like there's zero chance I would have gotten to Harvard without hockey. Zero. Well, let me ask you the important question.

What are the women of Harvard like? Smart. Obviously smart. Studious. Like the women of. Scottsdale or different? It's a different scene. Similar.

Yeah, I've stayed similar. It's a significantly different scene. One thing about Boston, though, is that, like, there's more college students per cap in Boston or at least one of the highest of any city in the country because there's BU, there's just so many schools up there. So it was a good time. Boston also is probably my favorite seat I've ever lived in. It's just such got so much character.

It's got so much heart. So it's like being in that town. And also, like, we're playing hockey. It's a winter sport. So we don't really care about, you know, it's more just kind of you're in the grind, you're working out, you think you're going to be like this play in the NHL. And so everything, and you realize like, oh, actually life's way different than that. Never mind. So, yeah, you're kind of in a bubble, almost like in Scottsdale.

It's a different type of bubble, but you're in a bubble a little bit. Give me the scouting report on Riggs as a hockey player. You're writing your own scouting report. Other teams reading it. What are we got to look out for? What kind of player are we going up against? Pure skill, zero strength. Defensive liability.

So I would be. Part. Yeah. A heart guy. Really ugly skater, but great hands. And I would be either legit, I would either be like first line left winger and on the power play or I'd be in the stands. Because like I couldn't, I didn't have what it took to be like a third or fourth line guy

that would grind in the corners. Coach Donato, who's still there, was still just like, no, no, no, he can't. He either needs to, he's like a coach skill guy or that's it. I heard you drum crazy too because he always showed up late to practice because you're up playing Halo a little late at night. Yeah, let's talk about this halo a little bit. I got really into Halo. Who didn't play video games in college? I honestly didn't, but, you know.

We were like, football during my era that we didn't have, it was like an era before you. Trying to get to the PJ. We were playing. Okay, what you do at night? You can't play, you're not playing called a night.

You read yardage books. Yeah. No days off. No days off. Clearly. Yeah. I can tell from your hobbies right now. SMU is very,

very obvious. The Harvard of Texas. So, and T.C., we basically all went to Harvard. Dude, we would play Halo. We would play Halo. We would play three, Gun three battles, and we do two different rooms.

You could link up and me and my college roommates would just play Halo all the time. All the time. We get a screaming match. We wouldn't talk to each other for days. Were you like rank? I've been told like, were you a ranked player? Like, however that works? No.

Like that good? No. Our friends live. Our friends are full of shit. But yeah, but you're still good. Not telling you. We can't reveal sources. We got boots on the ground.

I was good, but I wasn't like, I mean, now it's also hard to compare because now there's people that are legitimately good at video games and ranked and they make. Millions. Millions. Literally millions. In our time, I mean, this like late 2000, that was a fantasy. Like, that wasn't a real thing. I was just a little bit better than the guys I played with that were across the hall.

You could have been ninja before ninja. God, imagine being a ninja, how sick that is. I mean, yeah. Just make 20 million a month. Do you guys know this nade shot guy? You know who is? I don't know anybody with any. I've heard a ninja.

That's the only dude I've ever heard of it. This nade shot guy, big video game guy. I guess like 100 Thieves is like his, he created a video game like team and he's the president of the team or CEO of the team. And he tweets at me all the time that I'm like his favorite guy because he loves golf and that we need to play. Is he can't watch that far? Want that I DM? I told me you guys don't exist. Well, then I DM him and he just doesn't respond to my DM.

So I can't tell if he's trolling me or not. He's like three million followers on Twitter. Okay. Yeah. Slide in there. A little side hustle. I've been sliding in. He just doesn't respond.

He only tweets at me publicly. Like, we got to play golf. And then I DM, I'm like, let's play golf. And he'll tweet him. He's trolling you. Yeah, I think I'm getting to fuck. Exactly. But what was the plan going into Harvard?

Like was it to play hockey in the NHL? What would you want to do after school? It wasn't start a golf podcast. It wasn't, no. It was honestly like try to go to the NHL, get the easiest degree you possibly could, which was sociology for me. Oh.

What I tried to get. I didn't finish though. You and Gary Woodland. Yeah. We could ask him the same. I don't remember any of the names that we could have asked. Is Gary a sociage guy? In the sense that he has a degree, I think,

with that word on it. We should. But he doesn't know like the godfathers of sociology. If we did a trivia, It would be very funny at how little... It was like, Dirks, Markheim. Yeah. Somebody else was...

See, he's heard of him. So he and I have no idea of those people are. Carl Marx, he's a big one. Yeah. It was legit sociology because I hated taking test, but I always thought I could bullshit my way through a paper and get like a B. Like I could know nothing about the material, but I could write it in a way where the professor, TA, would be like,

eh, he doesn't really know what he's talking about, but it's pretty decent paper. We'll give him a B. So sociology was for me. And I had zero plan after that. And I also didn't... My biggest issue in college, took me a while to get through college, was that like I was Mr. Straight Edge going into college all through high school.

Like I never drank. I never did shit. I just wanted to play hockey and do well in school. And then my freshman year, I just like found partying and drinking. And that was so much cooler than anything else in my life. I get it. A lot of great athletes have fallen down that. Oh, man.

Well, I appreciate you call me a great athlete. But I was just all in on. I just wanted to hang and meet people and hockey became less and less serious. And like guys that now, that I played with now that are in the NHL, like Alex Colorn, who just won a Stanley Cup, who's a good golfer, by the way. Like, he just took hockey and all that very seriously. Like, he only, like, he cooked and grilled his own chicken and ate meals that he would,

you know, he was actually thinking about, like, dietary, like, what he's going to do? And I was like, what are you talking about? Like, let's go have 30 Keystone lights or whatever and get after. That's what everybody's doing. And so I didn't have that in me. And I realized after a year or two, I was like, I don't have what they have. Yeah, that takes a little bit of little dedication. There's a lot of great athletes lost in freshman year of college.

They discover some new things and say, you know what? I don't love golf as much anymore or other things. All right, so you get your degree. Then you get a job in, what, I believe it's in sales, right? Or something like that, but you're doing political blogging, like moonlighting with some political blogging. Were you trying to get into politics at that point? I was honestly, I was such a barstool fan and not even just a barstool fan, but of what

they were doing, like the job. And I looked at, and I bounced around a couple of different sales gigs in the Boston area, technology sales and I hated it. I just like, I was that guy on the bus every morning, rode the seven bus from Southie into the financial district of Boston, and every Monday Tuesday, I'd be like, this is the worst. I can't believe this is a real life thing. Like, we live in a free country.

I'm choosing to go. Like, this is crazy town. And meanwhile, I would check Barstool. And, you know, here's Dave and Big Cat. And they're laughing and they're doing pro show and they're at the Super Bowl. And I was like, how are they doing this as like they're getting paid? This is amazing. And so I just created my own blog.

I just Googled how to start a blog. And I just wrote over a thousand blogs. And I just kept emailing them to Dave. And I would pick random other emails too. I'd just guess Dave's or Big Cat's email and tack it on there and email them and nobody responded for a long time. And then one day Dave just responded. I was going to ask, how many emails did you send before he responded?

I don't know. I would guess it's in triple digits. I bet I send him over 100 emails, maybe a couple hundred emails. I mean, there was a point where I was emailing them every day. That's perseverance. And what was the response when he finally responded? He was honestly, he was like, all right, dickhead, stop email me. Like, what do you want to do?

I think your writing is really good. You know, he asked me, like, he asked me questions that you're in a job, like interview, research process, hiring process. You're like, it's illegal to ask. Yeah, totally. But HR didn't exist. Like I said, like, I'm employee number 19. Like we were, it wasn't barstool, which is not, like the first video I went and

filmed Dave and Gaz sales guy who's Dave's right hand man, you know, email we were just like, hey, like total up what you think it costs for that video. And we'll just write you a check. I was like, I was about $1,300 with like a couple flights and some stuff. And they just wrote me a check for 30. Like that was the whole company. It was actually $18,000. What a miss.

What a miss. But yeah, it was that simple. And I, I love like elections. And this was early 2016. Like Trump was becoming a thing. So there was just stuff to write about that Barstool wasn't writing about because Dave had a very simple policy. I don't want to piss off half the country or more.

so we're not going to touch politics. And I essentially have proven on my blog, like, hey, you don't have to piss people off. You just poke fun at everybody like you do with sports like you do with current events, whatever. And I'm not just saying you can do that. Like, here's how I've been doing it. And so he basically hired me to be the only guy. And to this day, Dave's written emails when somebody does something he doesn't like or writes about a topic he doesn't like, he'll write a company-wide email.

That's like, Riggs is the only person that's allowed to write about politics. I haven't written a political blog in years. But shortly after I got hired, I said, like, hey, by the way, I love golf. Like, is it cool if I write about golf? He was like, if it's good, we'll publish it. And that was pretty much it. So you started off with just writing about golf. You weren't doing the videos.

You didn't want to doing the podcast. You just saw, like, I'm the political guy, but also, by the way, I'd love to start doing. And they didn't have any golf people at the time. No, I was Trent and myself. And Trent was, Trent was blogging golf. But, you know, Trent's way more into the, like, the drama and especially, like, the players and the wives. He's just more into that type of stuff where I'm a little bit more. into like the courses and kind of more golf nerdy stuff than was being covered by Barstool at the time.

So I started writing like course previews, you know, tournament previews for like the U.S. Open that year. It was Oakmont. And kind of it was a difference to what Trent was doing. And at the time, especially like old school bloggers at Barstall, like you cut your teeth blogging. That's what you did. That's like the light blood of Barstool is the blog. And Dave still goes back to it a lot of like that's what he did for a decade.

Was he just, before we were doing videos, podcasts, radio shows, all the bullshit. It was like, you sit down and you crank out. Dave and them used to crank out 15, 20, 25 blogs a day. They just cranked out blogs. And so that's kind of how you got on his good side. That's how you earned and built up like an identity with the readership was you wrote about everything. And people would go in and find, you know, hundreds of blogs that you would write. And they could learn about how you thought about the world and the jokes that you like to make.

And so it was purely sitting in there and people would be stunned when they walk into old bars to L'HQ because they'd walk in and they expected to be a frat party if people'd be hanging off the fucking walls but we'd have our headphones in it would be dead silent because people were just grinding and writing blogs. And so it was so different back of the day.

Yeah, I mean, it's turned into an unbelievable company. He's done a great job. But I know he likes to give you a hard time all the time. Oh, yeah. Yeah. But now here's your chance. So we can talk about it a little bit because he did the U.S. Open thing

where he could win, win the U.S. Open with Unlimited Mulligans. But if you give us an honest, assessment of Dave Portnice golf game. He's horrible. Perfect. There it is. Horrible. But he's, he dude, it was so shocking that he shot four under at

Chinatcock. And yes, he did it with unlimited mulligan. Took him like 325 Mulligan. How long is that? That's a great question. Honestly, not that long. We did it under the time because you got to realize Dave has zero pre-shot routine, zero thought process. He just literally would step up to the tee. And he had

like his caddy at the time. They had like a shiny caddy for him was just like a conveyor bell just putting golf balls in front of him and he just kept swinging until he liked one. So a lot of times we step up on a tee and if he would hit one, if he hits it, let's say 240 and it would be in the fairway and we knew that was the best. It would just take him one swing and then we get out there and he would keep hitting. So we honestly weren't that slow. The USGA had put up, which is amazing to say out loud. The USGA had reached out and put a five hour, 15 minute time limit on it. It said you may have the maximum, however many mulligans you need, but you have to finish in five hours and 15 minutes.

minutes, that's our rule. Dave's like, no problem. I'll do it. And he went out and he shot four under at Chinnicock from the tips. And he's, I mean, he's probably a 30 something handicap. Like he never plays golf. He doesn't play golf. He doesn't play golf. He likes golf. He likes following tournaments. He likes the drama, but it's just like not one of his hobbies. And like his mom, Linda, God bless her heart, was like the coach, I believe, of both the men's and women's team of the local high school. So she's very into golf. His dad, cousin Mike, who's my guy. Like he loves golf, so he likes golf, but he just doesn't ever play. If he played a little bit, he wouldn't be horrific, but he just has that.

I mean, he plays once every two years, maybe. Yeah, he's a baseball. What was the most shots he hit at one time? Most Morgansy took on one shot, you think? He can't hit off a down slope. He just can't get it. That's a problem. Okay.

I get it. I get it. Join the club. Right, exactly. So 18 at Chinnecock. You know, he hits a, he like, whatever, fluffs a drive out there. And, you know, it's playing like 500 yards. he was open. So he then lays up to, I think he was like 130, 140 yards. And he's on that little

downslope on the 18th at Shinnecock. And the pin was like back left. And he legit couldn't get one airborne. And at the time, he's like two under. And we had started on, I believe, the third or fourth hole. So we only had a few holes to go. But he can't get a ball like, he can't get it airborne. He's just like shanking him into bunkers. He probably took 20, 25 swings. Oh my God. Wow. Standing in that fairway. And he's like, Frankie, what do you think I do? Frankie's like, well, the problem is like, he has to take his last one, right? And none of them are in good shape now.

And so he needs to hit a decent one. He just can't do it. He's like hitting him in the fescue, hitting him. He's like, well, if I had to play out of the fucking fish, so it was turning into a little bit of a nightmare. And then out of the clouds, he just hits a low, pretty, pretty pure one that skips up the right side, dribbles up to like 20 feet and he canned it for a bar. So it's just like. Lay up par four. Lay up on the par fours.

I hit 47 shots later. That's what happened. Was this before or after the open? This is before. So they do media day. There's been some crazy divot patterns out there. Dude's growing up like, what in the fuck is this? He was crazy because we rolled up and there, you know, there's no one really there.

There's no members there. But the president of Shinnecock was there. And he's in a blazer. And he came rolling out and he introduced himself to Dave. And he said, the only app I have on my phone is the Barstow app. That's cool. Have fun today. You know, good luck out there.

So like, amazingly Shinnecock Hills embraced it and the USGA embraced it. If it weren't for that, like we, you know, like, four. we're playing what we do wouldn't be nearly as big because a lot of companies that we work with or the pj of america you know we're able to leverage like well if the usGA works with them like yeah we can work with them it's the usGA so so that was actually huge and i was nervous because i is it we had uh craig annis who does a lot of the marketing over there and he's an awesome guy and he was relatively new um he comes from a different industry and he was the one had reached out and been like numbers don't lie these guys bar stools they bring the numbers they bring the eyeballs whatever

so we're going to welcome this mulligan challenge thing which was shocking to us us. And on like the second hole, you know, we were already a hole and a half behind or something. And, you know, there's groups behind us that are in Media Day and they might be celebrities or whoever they are that are just so rattle on the tee, so rattled. And they're at Chinnacott. And this guy, Craig, is so uncomfortable. And Dave Portnoy's Dave Portnoy. So he's standing on the green. He's hitting like his 40th putt for Paul. And does not care. He could not give up. He's like, I have unlimited mulligan. Like, what do you guys not understand? He's like, it is unlimited. I will stand here until I make it. And Craig said to me, he's like,

he goes, I'll be honest, because I'm either going to get fired or I'm going to get promoted today. And within a year or two, he got promoted. And it went, it went really well, but it was shaky at this start. I felt bad for him, but Dave Portnoy doesn't care.

And he ultimately shot, it was so shocking that he shot that number because he's terrible at call. That is really impressive, actually. It's more shocking that I think Shinnecock would, like, want that to be out. That's an old blue blood plate, you know what I mean? That's not like Shadow Creek or something like that.

It's a different joint. And, you know, the USGA does, like, part of the deal, is they pay X amount of money and they get to kind of do whatever they want with it. You know, so, but yeah, I mean, we had Zah, who's, who I love Zah, who's, you know, a midget from Zimbabwe, who it was running around in the, in the Faskew shagging balls. And it was like, and, you know, the USGA was a little bit nervous, like, what are the optics here? And one of the things they always talk about is like, Nick Price, who's from Zimbabwe,

like, Zah went up to him in tears and was like, you're my dad's favorite golfer of all time. And Nick Price was like, oh my God, what's going on? I said, I was like, no, this is the greatest day in my life. Like, what are you guys talking about? So that's just Barstool in a nutshell. Dave Portnoy shows up. He's got, like, his crew. And it seems like there's a circus.

People don't know what's going on. But people paid attention. Like, kids on those guys hit me up. They're like, dude, we're in the locker. I can't remember where they were that week. They're all watching being like, I can't believe he just birdied fucking, you know, or part 18, you know, or part 18. So who knows.

When you start it, but I mean, you get together, you get your job at Barstool, you start for play with the other guy. are you at all surprised to where it's at right now? Shocked. I mean, yeah. Yeah,

I mean, it's, it's, you got a shirt with your podcast on it. I mean, it's just like, yeah, it's,

you know, I think a lot, you know, I don't want to like, the cliche is like, pinch yourself. Like, I'm a victim of having really awesome dreams

a good amount of time and you wake up and you're like, God damn it. And I think every day a part of me legitimately thinks like, oh, I can't believe you thought that was real.

Yeah. you're going to pop up because it's it's I'm not you know no train for it there's no school for it there's nothing and yet here I'm like people care what we have to say people like following us it makes money it's a job but it's also not so the whole concept of it is no nobody could plan it out nobody could map it like I would say the only reason I would be hesitant to say that like I'm stunned is because like I know what's gone into it and like the blood sweat and tears that has gone into it, the hate that we get, that we like persevere through. Like, it's not easy.

And, like, the number one tweet or Instagram that I get is always like, I can't believe they hired this, this loser to do this job. Like, I'm a too handicapped. I should be doing it. It's like, well, then go do it. Yeah. Like, we invented the job. Dave didn't, Dave didn't put out a wanted ad.

Like, we invented the job. We went out and just created it. And so if people want to do it, like, do it. And, and ultimately, that's always going to. motivate me, right? Because people want our job, right? Like when you guys pop up, it's very motivating. It's like people are fucking coming after it. Like, it's a good thing.

But if you take anything for granted, especially when you have a really cool job, somebody's coming for it. And that's true of anything, man. Like, if that's true of sports, that's true of, if you're the number one ranked player in the world, that's true if you're a centerman on the New York Rangers, like, no matter what it is, people are coming for that shit.

So that's the only reason I would hesitate to to say I'm like fully stunned is because, you know, like, we take the business of it pretty seriously. Yeah, sure. But I don't think we would have expected it to be where it is. After your 85th unanswered email to Portner, you probably want to think of six years later, this is where we'll be.

And the fact that it's golf, right? Like that wasn't in my original pitch. Well, that's what helps. I mean, grow the game, all that stuff, whatever the thing. All right, give me the, like you said, people look at you. You got the job everybody wants. I should have this job, blah, blah, blah. Give me the one negative thing about your job or the worst part about your job.

You just have to have thick skin. I think that's pretty much it. You have to have a really, really thick skin that, again, you're not, you're not trained for. And luckily, I think I do, but for the first, especially like the first year, the first time Dave brought me on his podcast, which this was mid-2016, you know. And I'd been, like I said, kind of in a cave, just blogging for months. And I had a very popular, like, and this always happens at Barclay. So like, when you're a new hire, everyone's like, best hire and so long, so much better than this guy that's been there forever. because there's the tides and the shifts.

And so I was new and I was a couple months into it. I was writing about something fresh and different. I took it so seriously and I was so pumped up. And I felt really good about myself. And then Dave brought me on his podcast and just made fun of me for like 20 minutes. 20 minutes straight by like this freak look at his eyes. Oh my God. And just like just roasting me.

And then all of a sudden like I go check my Twitter, which had been all positive pretty much for months. And it's just people making fun of me on Twitter. And you're just like you don't, there's not. no way to prepare for that. And there's no world in which that would be a reality. Like maybe your buddies will bust your balls. There's locker room talk like hockey guy, whatever. But like no world would you just have like thousands of people making fun of you openly. So having that type of like introduction to it, certain people aren't cut out for it. And we see it people that get hired at Barstool or other

content spots that like don't handle it well at all. And so I think that having that thick of skin is extremely important to like, especially to have confidence of what you're doing, right? Because if you're like trying to make people laugh, you're putting out videos, you're putting out podcasts, like you need to have conviction in what you're doing and you need to be a little bit like free of mind

to do it and speak your mind and like try to make people laugh because if you get it in the back of your head like, oh, this fucking asshole on Instagram thinks that I, you know, I have bad cadence when I talk. Well, then you can't talk. Like shit. If you start thinking about how you talk, you can't talk. So I would say that's by far the most difficult.

difficult part, but I haven't had a single day since I got hired where I felt like I was like going to work, like not one. That's nice. It's a nice thing. Right. Well, over at Fort Blay, you got y'all's guys. You know, you got kids. Matthew Fitzpatrick's actually, one of y'all's guys.

You're all huge Tiger fans. Who are some of the other guys that's in y'all circle? Doug Gim's a big one. Yeah, he was on recently. Yeah. Yeah. So we had him on, you know, he jumped on yesterday, which is cool for him to do after I'm sure he was just devastated.

after shooting 78 and like watching JT basically, you know, picked that golf course apart T to Green. But Doug, God bless us already. I met Doug. I was on a plane to Bermuda for the tournament this last fall. And he was sitting middle seat behind me. And everybody's got masks on. So you can't.

And he's like, Riggs, what's up? I was like, hey, man, no idea who he was. And again, he's got mass and I can't tell. And he put up an Instagram story. And I was like, oh, shit, that's Doug Gimmon. And I knew him from the amateur and from the battle with Doc Rem and all that. And then that whole week we played video games like every night. And he's such a good dude.

He's so funny. And, and, you know, he had gone through kind of injuries and transition. So he hadn't had like the first year or two that he wanted. But he's been playing well this year. And like he's the kind of guy.

He sends me, he always just forwards me funny shit on Instagram. Like anytime I go on like four like posts from Doug Regison. So that's kind of a guy that's like, that's a little bit under the radar. But also one that I'm pumped. He's one of our guys guys. think he's going to break out you know like he's clearly got the pedigree low am at the masters um fitzpatrick

is a surprising one because he's he's european like we're not necessarily popular with europeans i don't know if they know what we are in europe uh but fits is like such a good dude max obviously but i think max is you know max is friends with pretty much everybody yeah um brownie scott brown i love you know he's kind of that that kid's crew they play palmetto together a good amount um so there's a good amount of guys and you know like Joel obviously I mean now I'm just kind of going through our roster here in Scottsdale but it's it's very cool I would say how many guys have sort of embraced it you know because I think there's probably a contingency that like you want to be surrounded by people like none of us have competitive golf experience in our in our crew none of us um none of us again we're

trained in like journalism or anything like that um and yet there's a ton of guys out there that embrace what we do. I know Matthew Fitzpatrick has hit us up a lot about. He just listens to the show. We're not saying anything fucking insightful that Matthew Fitzpatrick is learning. But he just enjoys it and finds it entertaining. And so, you know, those guys embracing it. Like Pat Perez is another big one who jives with us, who makes us laugh,

who's always a good guest on the show. Just a ray of sunshine. It's a little bald, is a old Patty? Clearly. But even them being able to give us their time to do videos and stuff, it's like, you guys can be doing anything and they're going to spend you know five six hours of us filming wait for a camera crew to to get set they're in the way like

when we did the four-minute scramble against kids at pininghurst like our our camera guy jake bass just like stepping all over his line and kids is just like yeah that's great jake just like walk through my line yeah that's perfect and jake he doesn't know what's going he's like he's just pointing the camera at kids his face what's a line what you're like what you mean so it you know the fact that we're such a clown show but guys embrace it uh is very very cool and there's a lot i'm sure i'm missing but yeah there's a good amount of guys out there and I think it's just the bars will name a lot of it it doesn't hurt is there any guys you like to go out a little bit yeah Polter but Frankie loves Polter because we don't like them okay yeah um and polter like a lot of people

would say it's just the rider cup thing but a lot of it's like the the with the complaining about the nanny and like getting people fired from their jobs hard to live yeah that type of stuff it's just like what a loser so we've always said it um but I've, d-in him before. I was like, Hey, man, like,

I know we've gone at you before, but, like, we'd love to hash out any differences on the show. Like, I think people would love it. And I'm sure if he came on the show, like Perez says this all time,

I'm sure he'd come off great. Yeah. You know, Ian's awesome, yeah. Yeah. I can see why people don't like him. No,

I can see. From the outside. Before I got to know him, I didn't like him. And then I got paired with him a few times on tour. And I'm like, this guy's fucking awesome.

Yeah, he's great. And we're a little bit spineless, admittedly, right? Like, we, you know, there was a phrase we were going through, people would call this, like, brand rehab because, like, guys that we would shit on. Yeah. Like, would agree to come on the show. And then we'd be like, I love that guy, you know. I mean, he took shots to Justin Thomas early on.

Big time. Yeah. Big time. And there was, like, a six-month stretch where, like, we would go back and forth at J.T. Yeah. You know, and he was going through the whole, like, getting the bunker thing. And I know that he was probably rattled that, like, everybody wants to be liked, right? And there's, like, a certain crowd that that didn't love him.

And then J.T. like God bless him. He like FaceTime me one day. I was like, hey man, like I think I'd like to do the show. We should chat. And now I love JT. And like he's by far the highest profile guy in my phone that like will always respond if I text him. Which again, it's crazy that that's a real thing. But like, you know, Bubba was another one that like we'd go after him and Ted Scott. He invited, you know, me and Jake to Estancia and we played. And he was amazing. Like he was super friendly and he was funny and he was very open. And I think we made him cry. So it was like. Well, that's not. Would you buy him a lemonade or something? That's the weird thing, though, when you start doing this, you might say something,

you would say sitting around, that guy or what, you know, you take a little shot or something, you realize, like, they might hear it. They're very good chance they're going to hear it. And then you all of a sudden got to, oh, maybe this guy comes on the show and you got to back that up. It's a different, it's a different feeling. Totally. And it's like, when the guy does come on here, like, Jake, can you research what I said about this guy? Yeah, find out all the shit I talked real quick.

I don't have enough time. I don't remember what I said. I got no idea what I said. So, yeah, we have gone on funny tangents before. We've just been like, nothing we say on the show could be held against us. Like, we're just, we're going. We don't, it's not to be taken seriously. So, yeah, I mean, it is tail between your legs a little bit, but I think as long as you're honest about it.

And like, usually we're reacting to the information that we have, right? So like, if the way someone comes off on TV and the way they come off in interviews is like they're a dickhead. And then we get them on the show and we hear their perspective and they're a lot more kind of insightful and they come off. Like, there's more compassion, empathy towards them. then we're like, oh, yeah, we just changed our mind. So, you know, I would defend it that way. Yeah, we'll flip fly. Well, we got to ask you about y'all's number one guy, obviously, Tiger.

Because, I mean, I've never seen four grown men drool over another grown man like y'all do over this guy. I know what you watch. I mean, he's the guy. I know that. But, I mean, y'all are just infatuated with this guy. Tell us about the first time y'all ever got to meet Tiger. If you can remember. Oh, my God.

You don't remember every second. First time I met Tiger was in Shadow Creek in the locker room. I watched that interview the other day. Boy, were you nervous. Yeah. I'll get to that. On the one, on the freak out scale, where were you in that leading up to it? Knowing that like, hey, all right, tigers 10 minutes out.

Tigers is eight minutes out or whatever. It was, it was as high as it could possibly be. And I'm the person that speaks for a living. And I was concerned that I wasn't going to be able to talk. Like, I legit was like, how am I going to like make words towards that man? I'd rather make love to him. Yeah, please. Can we just do that?

Yeah, it was at Shadow Creek. it was the day after the match with Phil, and I'd gone out there, the Excel team, my buddy Kevin Hopkins, who works for Steinberg, he had been like, come out to Vegas, like give up your Thanksgiving, cover the match, we're going to make it worth your while. I'm going to do everything I can to get you a little time with Tiger.

I was like, okay, great. So again, me and my guy, Jake, we went out to Vegas, and we just kind of putts around and filled time, and we went to the match that day, and there was kind of this plan that if it goes well, maybe Tiger will probably be in a good mood, will do it out, but we lose it, and it goes into like five playoff holes,

with the they had the dick and balls and all that um at shadow so he's like hey tiger it's late he's out and like shit so then i get a text at like 11 p.m it's like hey meet me at shadow creek in the morning because it's the pro am going out at shadow creek tiger and phil will be there i kind of have a plan i'm like are amazing um so i got up got there at like eight probably seven eight a m on on saturday morning in Vegas and luckily we hadn't gone out that night and he's like no cameras allowed so you got to be alone can you do it on a phone and i'm like yeah sure that's fine. So he's like, here's my plan. Tiger and Phil are going to be in the locker room. And at nine, they're going to get called out to do photo ops where everybody gets a picture of Tiger

and Phil. And Tiger's always the last one out of the room. Always. So he's like, so Tiger will hang back. When he hangs back, I'll go grab him for a second, ask him if he's down to do an interview. I'm sure he will be. And you'll have two or three minutes of Tiger alone to ask questions on a phone. Is that fine? I was like, that's our fucking plan, dude. And he's like, yep. And I was like, all right. So here we are in the locker of in Shadow Creek. Phil's like got one leg up on the table holding court, you know, with like a coffee in his hand, telling stories. Tiger's just sitting there pretty quietly.

After about 20 minutes, the whole room clears out because they go take place. It's just Tiger, Joey La Cava, Robbie Mack, my guy Hopkins and myself. We're the only people in the shadow Creek locker room, which is a big locker. So like, Tiger clearly can just sense that there's another human in the room. That's me. And it's me. And I'm like, oh, I can't believe we're here.

We're like doing this. So Hop's like, I'm going to go talk with Tiger real quick. I'll be right back. And I'm like, you're going to talk to Tiger. Okay, great. So he goes over, comes back a couple minutes later. He's like, Tiger's in. He's just going to put his shoes on real quick.

And you're good to go. And I was like, oh, God. Oh, God. I wish you would have said no. Totally. I'm like, anything else. You know what? I got to say anything else.

And, you know, I'm going to give him my phone. So I don't have anything. I don't have a computer. I don't have a not. Oh, you got to memorize everything. It's all in my head. I need to like know what I'm going to ask Tiger would. So I'm in my head going through like trying to come up with like exercises to remember

what you're going to say. And Tiger comes walking right over with Joey. And I introduced myself, I blacked out so I don't know what I said, right. It was something along. I'm like, a huge fan, you know, whatever. I'll just stay. I'll be your servant, like whatever you want. And then we, you know, Kevin's like, all right, you want me to film it.

So I handed my phone. And I'm like, dude, you better hit record. He's like, I know I got it. And it was as, as like, like Bush League is he's like, do you want it like sideways or like straight up? I'm like sideways. He's okay. And I'm standing.

That's the tiger. I was going. And then Joe La Cava, whose son is a huge barstool fan. And Joey, whenever he comes in for like Rangers games and stuff, I always get a beer with him. So he popped his head in. He's like, you got this. Rigsie. Go get him.

And that just totally like freed me up. And then he hit recording. I chatted with Tiger for like two or three minutes. And then right afterwards, I, you know, Tiger, like Jeremy Roneck walked into locker room. And he's on. at the time. No. Yeah.

That doesn't sound like. And he's like, Tiger, can I get a picture? And Tigers, yeah, sure. So then I frantically like upload the video to Jake, who's back in the hotel and I'm frantically text him. And I'm like, where is it? What's going on? Have you gotten it?

He's like, I'm checking everything right now. Give me a say. And then he texts me and he's like, audio is awesome, video is awesome. Like, we got it. And I was just like, let's go. And I was playing that next, that round with like Bob Menry and Paige Sprannick and we just got annihilated all day. good because it was just like it was only 8 a.m. in Vegas. And then the other part was I took off,

I had on my shirt, one of the shirts that we sold underneath that said, you know, the goat on it and it had Tiger with the backwards hat and the sunglasses going to the PGA championship or whichever tournament that was. And Hopkins was like, you should try to get a picture with him with that. I was like, are you serious? Yeah. And Tiger saw it and looked at me. He's like, that's funny as shit. And I was like, hell yeah. And took the picture. So it was like, it couldn't have gone better. It was. I'll be honest my favorite part of the videos because I go out there quite a bit is Jimmy the old man in the locker room. Oh my God. He's on the phone, answering the

phone and then all of a sudden I hear, what? What? Jimmy. I'm like, this is incredible. He's interviewed Tiger in this old bag, Jimmy, over here, is answering the phone and yelling. Dude, he killed my answer. It's the pinnacle of my life right now, Jimmy. That's one of my favorite dudes of the planet, Jimmy. He's unbelievable. I'm like, Jimmy, shut the fuck up.

I just asked Tiger what tournament he's going to win next year. I'm going to be buried with this video, bud. Just two minutes for the guy that wants his shoes brought out to the ballet. It was right. When I listed all the majors the next year to tie it, I was like, which one do you think you have the best chance at? And he called his shot and was like, I really like a shot at Augusta. And he, of course, would win at Augusta right when he goes, I really like my chance at.

And it's like, bring. Locker room. Locker room. And I'm like, what? What? I'm like, Jake, can you get rid of that audio? He's like, what do you think? On your phone.

It's on an iPhone, bud. Well, that's perfect. You asked him that question. Let's get to that real quick. Let's go through the four majors this year. Which one do you think you'll win? Major. Yeah, we're not asking you which one you win.

I've seen your action. Hey, we won that day. We did win. We cleaned people out that day. All right. Next four majors, because the major season's coming up, who wins the Masters? God, it's such an obvious pick right now, but I got to go JT. Okay.

I think the JT, the way, his ability to work the ball both ways on Sunday was amazing. Like it, and at Augusta, I think his ability to do that. He's going to win at some point. I think everybody agrees he's going to do that. He's going to win at some point. So I'm going to call J.T. Augusta. Trending.

Why don't you pick yours, too? Let's all go around the horn. Who you like? I don't want to agree with this guy. You're going to take J.T.? That's most likely, yes, who I'm leaning towards. Okay. All right, I'm going to take, I'll go Bryston.

I got J.T. penciled in somewhere. You're on Bryson. I think Bryson. Yeah, I like him a little more under the radar this year. Then last year it was like winter bust. This year, it's kind of some other guys playing here. No, no green reading books either. It's a problem.

That's true. Yep. All right. U.S. Open, Tori Pines. I have a feeling. I know who this one's going to pick. and he's probably who I'm going to pick. Yeah, we're going to line up, I think.

I'm going to go with a weird one. I'm going to go Patrick Cantley. I ain't that weird, bud. Yeah. That's a pretty good one. Callie guy. I'm pretty sure we're both going with John Rom. Okay.

He likes the place pretty good. Okay. He ain't bad around there. They'll only say he got engaged there 42 times during the week. Was that his first tour when was there? It was. The Eagle Chip? Yeah, and it's the one that cost me quite a bit of money.

Come on. The bomb. Come on. Have you never heard about my bet with Phil? No. Oh, this is a great. Do you want to do it? I do it.

What are we doing? It's great. Yeah, they wrote an article about it. It was great. So we were at Memphis. This was John Rom just finished NCAAs. He's getting ready to turn pro. And he's like, this kid John Rom, top 10 player in the world.

I'm like, he's talking about it. He's like on the corn fairy tour. He's like, I'm telling he's top 10 player in the world right now. He goes, I was like, okay, what kind of? He's like, you want some action on this? And I was like, yeah, I go, how long he goes, a year from today, top 10 in the world. And I'm like. He just finished college.

He literally just took final. Four days ago. And I'm like, okay, yeah, what? He goes, give me some odds. I put up $3,000. I put up $10,000 to his $3,000. Okay? Dude just goes on a heater.

Boom, boom, boom. Makes, ends up getting it, but I remember I was at Bottle Blonde here in Scottsdale, and he's got that Eagle putt on 18. You weren't a baby? Nah, I was cheating on him from that. Yeah, okay. He's a bottle bomb.

He's a free agent sometimes. Sketchy story. This put goes in the middle for Eagle, and I screamed. So no! I was like, what just happened? I was so mad.

And it ended up happening in the top 10 for the first time. Oh, so it took no. It was easy. He didn't play a bad event. He's on sponsors exemption. He's finishing third and four and all this stuff. If he doesn't get his tour card

and sponsor exemptions, he's dead. He's got to go play the cornerfurt tour for year. Yeah. So I thought the odds were definitely in my favor. Yeah, I was wrong. Tickling one down that slope and it goes in. Yeah, Phil played with him one round,

the first round ever at Whisper Rock, and John shot whatever he shot. I was Alex She out there that day, and he came in a, I was like, this is the dude. And sure enough, he wasn't too far off. But yeah, we got him. He's, I think, the guy to beat at Torrey.

I would say anytime they pan to him and he's inside of like eight feet, it almost seems like they shouldn't even miss. The whole thing is good. There's just nothing. There's no weakness. There ain't nothing bad. Does not miss. All right, next one.

PJ Championship Kiowa Island Ocean course. Roy McElroy won the last time. What he went by eight there? Yes. Yeah, that was a pounding. You know, I would, I feel like that one's a little bit more of a, crap shoot to me.

I'm going to go, I mean, now I'm going to take the number one playing the world. I'm going to go DJ. Okay. That's the same thing Roy did and just hit seeds off every T. I really like that's where I'm going to take JT at that. I really like Rory there. I need him to get it together a little bit.

But yeah, that's, I got scared off of taking him just because of what I saw, which is stupid. Like he's Roy McRoehl. He'll be fine. Yeah. Yeah, I'm going to Andrew Schaffley. I just think. Love that.

It's a ball strikers golf course. And so is the players, which I picked him. last week and he missed the cut. But he's going to rebound for me. How many majors we think Xander Schaffley is going to end up with? Dude, that's such a great question because like we talk about like Colin Morcao, you know, wins the PGA. And they're like, oh my God, this is the next guy.

He's going to win 10 majors. I'm like, or he could win one. This could be the only one. It's so hard. How many guys do we say that about, though, when they come out like, oh, like Charles Howell, we would have a bunch that he would have a bunch that he would have a bunch by now, you know what? Ben Curtis is going to have one or John Gildon.

Like DJ only has two. Todd Hamilton. He's one every year for, what, 15 years? and he's like only got two. He's got two. So that's like, yeah, so it's so hard to put a number on it. And it's so hard to win majors. Like JT.

He's got one. Like it's not, you feel like he's gone on a tear. I mean, Rory hadn't won one in six years. Yeah, if you would have bet six years ago, hey,

I bet you Rory won't win a major for six years. No, the odds on that would have been. I mean, it would have been through the roof. How about that guy hasn't won one in that one? I know, that's crazy.

God. That's what, I mean, golf, There's some young kid right now we've never heard of that in four years. I'm going to like, oh, he's going to win six majors. And Padder Carrington has three. Mm-hmm.

Yeah. Yeah, quickly. Great signature, by that. Quickly. Great signature. I'm going to say three. I think Xander's in it with three. I mean, yeah, that'd be incredible.

It'd be really good. There's too many good dudes. And that feels like we're short selling them. I know. You get four tries a year. There's too many good guys. Like, okay, you can only give so many people can only win. Exactly.

You got Patrick Cantley, you got Zander, Colin Morcow. You got Justin, Dustin, Ron. Rahm hadn't won one either, guys. Yeah. I mean, he's going to win some. And then there's going to be young kids, like I said, we never heard of coming up. They're going to be in the mix, too. We didn't know Victor Hoffman was two years ago.

What a chill dude, Zander Shoffley is. He's awesome. He's just chilling. He just needs to get those emotions in check. Too much of a roller coaster. Clearly. Yeah. Just calm down, dude.

Yeah, relax. Him and can't lay are just way too up and down. He's just golf, fellas. Yeah, just relax. Everyone calm down. All right. Last one, the Open Championship at Royal St. George. That's hard.

Darren Clark won last time. I was there. To be honest, Dustin Johnson should have won. He had a four iron out of that. That would be on the par five. That was that par five? Was it a four iron? Where you shanked it?

Yeah, right over the fence. I'm going to pick one that I don't think is going to be a crazy pick right now, but come tournament time might be, is Lee Westwood. Oh, I mean, there you know. That might be the biggest story of the year. Yeah, I, you know, like we've seen it a million times with older guys winning the British Open or being in contention. Darren Clark won there. Pretty old.

guy maybe we westwood that's good out yeah it'd be 47 48 when he's 47 right now I don't know when his birthday is but I mean that'd be a hell of it been the best player to never win a major for a long time great vibe he's got going right awesome dude so he's asked me about another day I was like he's this guy you want to have a beer with after the round he's yeah there's a lot of euros like that yeah but I feel like he needed to get to that point in order to play some of his best because he was all he always felt so uptight it was just like even at the players he's out there smiling he's making his hint three woods in the water and he's still it looks like he's enjoying the moment being in you know kind of a resurgence uh more than he would have maybe 30 i've never

seen something either 100% never seen something either where it's like every time they would pan to him and then sunday back mad every hole it seemed like he had four to like seven feet for part yeah and who looks like he's never going to make it but he was making all of them he made him and he made him at bay hill too you knew he had to miss one at some point and it finally happened on 17 but like i was with you like he just made clutch one after clutch one it was what was going on on 17 because i we see it every year, but it feels like guys are able to lag it way closer. Is it because of the new green that nobody could get it to stop? Like you said, they redid it. So I guess it's just a little fast.

You see when the camera pan down how shiny it looked? I mean, that thing looked like it was rolling 13 and a half. You can't risk leaving it up top. I know. Because then you're going to have the same thing all over. I remember like Tiger when he won in, what was it, 14, 13? He lagged it to like a foot. Yeah, but he's Tiger. It doesn't count.

Yeah, I guess that's fair. Yeah. All right. So you went Lee Westwood. I'm going to go DJ. That's actually who I was saving for the open as well. He's fucked. Oh, I think he's going to mess the cut for sure. Never wrong. All right, there we go.

We nailed every major winner for the year. We'll write these down. Yeah, which one of you guys are most excited for? I guess I would say outside of Augusta. Everybody's always awesome. Well, I'll be honest. I'm going to Augusta for the first time this year.

Never stepped foot on property. What? Yeah. What? Never been there. For CBS? I'm doing, yeah, the, like, featured group stuff. Good for you.

So I'm very excited. I'm never, I can't wait to see the place. I mean, I'm actually stunned by that. Yeah, I know. I was very stubborn and said, connected man. Yeah, but my whole deal was when I was playing,

I wouldn't go until I qualified. And now I'm like, another flip-flopper there is. You know what, guys? I know a couple of years. After reassessing the situation, I'm now open for an invitation.

I've said it. I'm like, anybody, I'll go, whatever y'all want. Literally anyone that has access. Everybody got a grounds ticket. I will take a greyhound to Augusta tomorrow.

So your first experience will be covering it. Yeah. That's pretty cool. I'll step on the grounds Tuesday, April 6th. What kind of access? Like I know you're covering. I have no idea. Okay. I'm, probably champions locker room. Are you able to have like a phone? Champions dinner? I don't know anything. First off, you have to send your like social security number in for your credential. Like it's like there's there's there going to be a background check and definitely some blood

taken. I know you have to get approved and all that. And I was very excited when they told me I was approved since I turned down their invitation after my favorite experience the first time we were at Augustine. It was like me, Trent Frankie. We were down there. And Dave was there as well. But just the three of us watching golf. And we're standing right at, you know, aiming corner, right? We're 11 green, 12T. And we're standing over that, like, huge mound

that's just short of 11 green. And somebody was on, like, sprinkler head or something down just short of the green. And so they call for, like, a rules official. And a fucking green coat appears out of the trees. Literally out of the trees behind 11. It might not even have been a green coat because it was, like, a rules official.

So I don't even think they had, like, a green card. It was just like a normal fucking blazer. Appeared out of the trees. normal fucking laser came over whispered a couple things to the group and then at wheel and then he just he just like field of dreams he just disappeared

into the trees that's how they are yeah and he was gone and it was like there was no structure there was no path not he just came and then he was gone and we just were like is anybody else seeing what like that man was just they're like shoeless Joe Jackson there because they just it was awesome it was awesome that's the best

spot by the way on property right there too yeah I'll go there then yeah you should that's about out. If you can get down there. I mean, I got to. Hopefully I can sneak a picture. What year was that that you were there? Who won that one?

17. Sergio. Oh, yeah. There you go. Yeah. We saw him at, I mean, this is totally unrelated,

but we just, we saw the first person we saw in Augusta, we got there Sunday night and we went to go grocery shopping and Sergio was just there in street clothes grocery shopping. And we were like, should we go say something to him? Because we've been really mean to him online before. You got a,

you got a bunch of dudes like, should we go apologize real quick? Yeah. And then try to get him to come on? You kid and apologize? No. Hey, dude, I'm sorry. What are you doing Tuesday?

100%. You ever heard of four play? Yeah. Not that kind. The golf kind. And we ended up just being told a coward. We just took a picture of him with like his cart and we were like, we're not going to like tweet. That's weird.

And then he won and then we tweeted it more like, look, we took this cool picture. Everyone's like, he's just. This is what the champs eat each. That's right. That's right. His Tuesday dinner plans have changed now. It was a reach, but like we were trying. That's all good.

You want to get to the E9? Yeah, let's hit that. All right. All right, here we go. Very, well, they're going to be interesting with you. Okay, this is probably going to be tough. Yeah, we'll just start it out with one we always ask everybody. Movie made about the life of Riggs.

Who plays you? Any actor, dead or alive. So the one actor I always got the most growing up was, was it Christian Hayton? Is the guy that played Anakin in Star Wars, the first three? Was it Christian Hadenson? Is that his name? I don't know. I know the kid you're talking about it.

You know what I'm talking about it? I don't know what his name is, but yeah. The young Skywalker, whatever. The young Skywalker, obviously not the kid that was like pod racing, but the next one when he was, uh, when he was banging Natalie Portman. No, that's a good guy. Yeah, all I heard was Natalie Portman. Harvard girl.

Yeah, she's, I was about to say. That's realistic. Yeah, Harvard girl. You want to come clean right now? You know Natalie? No, I don't. I'd be great if I did. She's a beautiful woman, very talented actresses.

All right. I was very nice to you. I said Russell Crowe because I couldn't think of anything. Russell Crow? Yeah, of course you're going to take that shit. I was going to run. I picked Gary Senise on the advice of some of our boots on the ground. Lieutenant Dan.

I get, I get Lieutenant Dan all the time. Yeah. Yeah, people say it's like terrifying. I want to change mine now. Russell Crowe didn't happen. I'm going with him. Which people,

I will say people tweet Gary Sinise at me like they're hurting me. But I'm like, amazing movie stuff. Yeah. Yeah, dude. Sorry about the Hollywood good looks. Yeah, I don't care. I didn't even realize it when they told me that.

And I was like, once they said it, I was like, yeah, shit, that's the one. Yeah. that the most. That's a good call. I forgot about Gary Cinesse. All right, next one. I love that you ask someone who would play him. They actually offered it when I was trying to dig up from dirt.

You're doing some research. Yeah, exactly. You're just, you know, this ain't rookie league. All right, what's the one stereotype about Harvard you dislike the most? You may have said it earlier in the show already. Um, probably that everyone's like a Silver Spoon, you know, trust fund kid, because almost everyone that I know from Harvard isn't. And Harvard also has like, It has uncapped financial aid, right? So, like, they'll just admit anyone that they believe deserves to be admitted. And then their financial aid is such that if you need financial aid, no matter what it is, they'll cover it.

So they don't, like, they don't cap their financial aid. So the whole point of that is that, like, there's so many people at Harvard that once you, once you go to Harvard, people are just like, oh, that's like a Harvard douchebag who have, like, insanely diverse background. So that's probably what I would say. All right. It's fair. Fair? Very fair. All right, number three.

I would say most of us, I mean, I know I do it. I know he does it. You know, you're out there on the range and balls. You're swinging. You're like, man, swing. Swing feels like Roy McRoy today. It feels like Adam Scott today. Who do you think Riggs is golf swing?

Most resembles are. Who do you think you swing like? Who did I get? Current tour player. Who did I get the other day? This will be interesting. I got a great one the other day. Somebody tweeted something hilarious at me that.

God, I can't remember who swing it was, but they tweeted at me. So-and-so swing. exactly how Riggs thinks that he swings. Yeah, that's who, exactly. Yeah. And I can't, God, I can't remember who it was, but it was, it was perfect. Louis, who stays in?

He's one that I aspired to because it seems, Louis's one of those that seems achievable because it's just so like, when you watch it, you're like, I know, I know, I don't. Oh, I just do that on Monday. Yeah. And then you get out there like, no. I would say maybe, uh, be Todd. That's fair.

Okay. Okay, I'll take that. That's actually a pretty good one. Right. Like the shank on 17. It's all grass. Yeah. Yeah.

The fucking. Like Briggs has that. I just seen that. Right? Because like when Rory swings, I know that's not achievable. Yeah. When like Tiger would say, I know that's not achievable. No offense to be tough.

When he swings, I'm like, I could kind of maybe do that at some point. It's fair. You can't put it like him. No, no, no, no. You can hit it like him. Him and Kiz and you roll the rock really good. I like that. All right.

All right. All right. All right. All right. What was more emotional, emotional? Leaving Pinehurst or watching Old Yeller for the first time. I did cry when they, when they had to take him out back. Of course.

Who doesn't? Who didn't? You don't have a heart. And I was at my grandparents' house. You know, it was a whole thing as a kid. Probably Piedhurst. Yeah, that was the real deal. Those were real tears.

I sobbed. 99 days in that joint or something? 99 days. And I don't do goodbye as well. I always, I'm always like, yeah, I'll see you soon guy. Never like a, this is it. Goodbye guy. So I hate goodbyes.

And my boy, Tom Pashley, who's the president of Pinehurst and just an awesome guy, he knows that. So he kind of set me up for failure. to me honestly yeah I had no you got the cameras they know you're going to be emotionally walking down like totally dogged me there and I had no clue I mean I had no idea that was going on um but yeah I mean a lot of those people have become like very good friends of mine um my buddy Dave like I went to his wedding a few uh a few months later so like and I didn't even know him until I arrived at Piner's so like a lot of those people were good and there's an element of like we'll never there's an element of like we'll

never have like this again. We'll never go through this experience again. And I know it was like a pandemic. And I know that it looked, but like a lot of those employees were laid off. Like pioneers laid off over a thousand employees, like 80% of their staff. And we raised a bunch of money. And like I kind of helped them do that for a lot of those people. And then they came back. And then like, you know, from their perspective, it was like business was was booming when they reopened. And a lot of those people were rocking like barstool gear and it come because we had talked about it. So there was a lot of a connection. I do understand the optics of like, here's a guy at a golf resort during a pandemic, crime because he's leaving the golf resort. Who wouldn't leave, dude? Oh, man,

I got roasted. Like, Dave, Dave, Dave, Portnoy finds it to be the most preposterously funny video in the history. And he'll just occasionally, I can tell when he's like bored or he's going to the archives, he'll just tweet it out randomly and be like, I had forgotten this video exists. This is amazing. Um, so I get all that stuff. But, uh, yeah, I mean, I was, I was very moat. And like down to, you know, like my guys, Kevin and Barry, who were like the bellhop guys there who like, I mean, there were days. Like I had such a preposterous setup that I would, it gave me a golf cart from the, you know, resort that it was just mine. And I parked it right up front at the Carolina Hotel.

And they would charge it for me every night. And there were nights I would come home, shit face drunk from being at the brewery or being like at a buddy's place. And the cart would be, you know, like in Wolf of Wall Street scene when they like. Like, take those, and it's just a nightmare. I'm at the country club. Yeah, that was me. And the car's just like sideways with like leaves on it and stuff. And I'd come down and those boys would have it like charged up, cleaned up.

They'd be like, Rigsie, everything's good to go. How was last night? That's awesome. So then this was like the last time that like my guy, Kev, when I got off the elevator, like he was waiting at the bottom of the elevator. It was like, Rigsie, I'm going to get your bags. You just walk out. And then there was like a line of people.

And so the whole thing to me was just like, it was crazy. Side question. take number two out of the equation favorite course at pinners oh number four four have you played the new number four the gill hans i haven't i like number eight though eight's great i haven't played any i haven't played two since the redo or any of that i played four back in the day before they do i would say eight six four is probably most people that visits number one even over number two now it's just really really good it's fun it's got a lot of the characteristics it is a donald ross original but like gill hans and modernized it it's beautiful like goes it kind of wraps around this pond

So you've got kind of water views that people love. So it's just, it's great. Awesome. I love it. Well, please don't cry when you leave us today. Okay. Yeah, we're going to have a few more men. I got to stay here for a night.

If we don't get tears, I'm going to be pissed. Kill myself. All right. Well, you and your boys at Foreplay. You've been playing some tour players. Y'all been playing a scramble against them. I think you're undefeated. We're undefeated against PGA tour, yes.

Against PJ. Whatever. We're undefeated against PGA. Leave it at that. The only one they document are PJ tour players. Well, obviously, we're not as good as those guys. So I want you to set the line If Vegas was going to set the line right now

Subpar best ball Against four play scramble Ooh best ball Best ball is interesting That's interesting Well I know if Pat Perez What are you guys shooting in the scramble I think you guys would probably

Be favored But we are sneaky We're sneaky good in that We got lucky that The things that each of us are good at Are not the same So, like, we actually kind of turned into a complete golfer. You know, when we played, when we beat Pat Perez at True North, you know, he had like

never played the golf course. I think he shot, I think he shot six under 66 and we beat him one up. He had a dirty lip out on the last. Outrageous lip out. He was mad. I feel bad for him. He was into it. He'll be okay.

Yeah, that's true. He'll be fine. But then, like, at number two, you know, we played, we played Pirates number two from 7,600 yards. And I think we shot three under 69 and kids shot. Well, I guess technically the par is 70. So we shot like a one under, 69. I think kids shot 70.

So like he played great that day. So we're kind of that sweet spot. Like if we played an average court, I would say if we went out and played like Whisper Rock and played the South Corps or something, we'd probably shoot six or seven under, would be my guess. And I think you guys would probably be a little lower.

I think it'd be a close game because we're going to, if we play well, bury some of the same holes. We don't have a lot of them too. Yeah. We ain't what we used to be. I don't know. You guys are pretty good.

I would never shit anyway. So we're. So we're a side favorite. I would. I've only seen you play. It's fair. Colt. So that's my shit's real good.

Tell them, Cole. Yeah. I heard so he's fucking play. So it's my shit is clean. Best ball's tough because like the beauty of when we do the scrambles against the pro is like they just got one shot. Yeah. That's and that's, you know how important that is. So it's it would be, I think we'd be slight underdogs.

Okay. All right. You're even money. We're minus one day. We'll, we'll, we'll get. We'll, get that lined up. I'd be crazy not to say we're

under dollars. Yeah, dude, you got to stack the deck. For those expectations. Over the bar. Next one. Being that you are a political guru, if you ran for president, what would be your campaign slogan? Oh, man. It's kind of a tough one, actually. Yeah, that's tough. Get amongst it? That could be one. Everyone stop bitching. That'd be a good one. Hit it hard.

Hit it hard. It's not bad. My campaign slogan. I don't know. Vote for Dave. Yeah, what about this? All right. Have a lot of drink. What's audible. Dave's name gets brought up on some of these presidential deals, right?

If you are his campaign manager, can you make Dave Portnoy the next president? There we go. The issue with all you would need to be able to do if you're Dave Portnoy's campaign manager, you just need to be able to be yelled at because no ideas that you have are going to be good enough to be accepted by Dave or probably better than Dave. like his instincts and just record with that stuff is flawless. So he would need you to just be there, get stuff done, and just get yelled at a lot and be able to handle it. So, yeah, I've gotten yelled at many times by Dave.

One of my favorite Dave stories is when we were, me and Trent were blogging the golf back in the day. And it was the 2016 Rider Cup. And, you know, Sunday singles take a lot longer because there's obviously 12 matches. So they start a lot earlier. And I'd gone out and got pretty liquored out the night before, so I was hung over. I left my computer at the office, which is a no-no when you're in the blog game.

And so I, and we at the time, we didn't have the technology to, like, blog from our phone. So, so it's like Rory and, and. Rory Patcher-Rater, first match. Are, like, popping off, you know, and like, and we're tweeting about it. And we're, like, getting action on Twitter, but we hadn't written a single blog about it yet. Me and Trent just get an email from Dave, the two-paragraph email. And the first paragraph just says, hey, guys, what's going on, anything going on in golf today? And the second paragraph's all caps says,

wake the fuck up with like 50 exclamation point. That is awesome. It was so good. So yeah, I mean, you got to be able to take some shit. So that would be, that's the number one thing.

You've got to be able to like be yelled at ruthlessly. Tough day to forget your computer at the office. Oh, man. Sunday of the Rider Cup. Final day of the Rotter Cup singles. Rory and the best writers ever. Seven and three out of eight going out.

And my thinking was like, we were, you know, we were there until like Saturday night blogging. And then we went out. to the bar and I was like I'm going to get up early fresh and like gets the office early and like crying and I just missed that window so it happens 11 a m or something it happens it happens the best of us 11 am I was like don't have my computer what am I going to do I'm in an Uber on the way

there I'm like please God be good I get an email that comes in read the first paragraph I was like all right this happened oh no he's really bad this is really bad he's fine all right number seven your life is on the line a 10 foot put has to go in or you die who are you going to pick to put Trent, Frankie, or Lurch? Trent. No, no hesitation. Not even close. Really?

Not even close. Or he could just put a gun to your head and just end it right there. Trent, it's not even close. Trent's a good putter, actually. Trent's fast. Trent's a good putter and the other two are horrific putters. So in the scramble, he's the last guy. Trent usually goes.

No, he's the last guy. I'm the last guy, but Trent, I would say we've, Trent started to play so much more golf in the last year. that we're probably going to need to redo our shuffle because Frankie goes third and Frankie he said the last one that we did Frankie made a put on like the 11th hole or something against Perez and he goes

that's the first put I've ever made in one of these and we were like what do you mean it was like the fifth one that we've done and he goes I always go third and if it ever gets to me I've never made it because if you guys couldn't make it I have no chance to make it

so he's just never he's only made one put I think in the history of us doing it It's hard when you only get two looks at it. I don't know what. It's hard to know which way. Lurch hits the ball great, actually. He just, he's a really poor butter. Really poor.

Happens. All right. Last one for me. I needed to think on this. I was told you'll know exactly where I'm going with this. What pisses you off more in a golf and a buddy's golf trip? Losing or being forced to eat pizza with a bunch of toppings on it afterwards. Do you know where we're at here?

Is this Cabot? This could be potential northern California. California trip. You just took this one. Dad bodd's open. Yeah, the dad bod open. Our guy jersey with okay, here we go. One of the worst pizza orders in the history of pizza. And he's a great guy. And you guys know him particularly well. But it's a very simple philosophy that when you've got like 20 drunk guys and you're going to order pizza for the group, you keep it simple. And this pizza order was like super supreme mushrooms with like. ranch and that that was all of the pizzas and and I immediately had a couple drinks and the second the pizza order came I started looking at other people like this is going to be a problem you guys realized this is going to be a problem but our boy jurors who he put his credit card card down bought pizza everybody so you're like everybody's like oh thank so much for the pizza and I'm

looking around like are we doing this whole charade here with like this is a joke we're all starving and sure enough like there was one I think one was a cheese and and everyone's doing like a courtesy like yeah i'm gonna yeah i'll try that supreme pizza that's great and then sure enough like half hour later look every single piece of the cheese pizza gone all the other ones there was like one slice was gone how many times you've been on a buddy's trip with 20 guys that somebody orders eight pizzas and every slice is i hate to agree with him but i'm on it i'm on the same page of course you leave it to jersey you're going to get some weird shit but i've been told a couple of dudes are like he lost his mind over this pizza order and could not fathom the fact that there was

only one cheese and like seven other weird ones i couldn't believe it and Again, all the proof was in the pudding that all of those pizzas were just left. Yeah, there's your proof right there. Order some cheese, order some pepperoni, call it a day. Thank you. It's really not to heart. And we even had people straggling like an hour later. It's like, is there any like anything to eat?

We're like, I have a bunch of pizza left. They'd all kind of look around. They'd be like, yeah, there is pizza left. And they just nobody would try it. Mushrooms and olives and, yeah, that's just all that kind of stuff. By the way, side question on that same trip. I also heard you might be the only man in the world that thinks Pebble is hard than Spyglass.

Oh, yeah. Had that. You wrote previews for golf courses. How do you think this? This is... In my defense, I have admitted that I think I was wrong. Okay, all right, flip-flop. Another flip-flop.

Good. And I also got, what happened was I got into a debate the first night of the first trip that we did. And I just kind of blurred that out as a take. And then I just very stubbornly defended it the rest of the trip. Hard. And then just throughout the last two years, especially on like, the group text, you know, like there'll be a quote, especially whenever they play the AT&T,

that'll just somebody will come out with a quote of like, yeah, he's got to play spyglass today, which is playing several shots harder than Pebble and they'll just like text them all to me. And so I've just gotten roasted for that take. So I think a few months ago, I finally was like, boys, I got big news. I think I was wrong about that take. Yeah, I think I was wrong. But I will say if the wind is blowing, that's a difference. I still think Pebble because the wind never really affects you that much at spy after you get past

a fifth hole. I mean, maybe the last 11 holes at Pebble or harder, but, yeah. I mean, the first seven are you got to go. Yeah, because you can play the first, you can play that back nine a lot of times straight into a wind of pebble. And it's a battle. But if it's not blowing, it's way. All right. I was not nice to hear about that flip ball.

Credit to me. Came around. Yeah, exactly. What a big man you are. Last question. I think I was wrong. True or false. One day you almost got completely naked with Paige Brannick.

Yeah, she beat me. I had to get into a, um, I had to jump into like a Long Island, New York pond wearing just a thong. She told me the bet was though if you won, she had to just jump in with just a thong on. Correct. So a lot of people rooting for that's not. That's a loss for mankind. First off, that's the worst golf you ever played. I'm very upset.

It was, uh, you wouldn't believe how many people I had mad at me after. It's still mad. They tune into this video and they're expecting something. And then they got rigs in a thong diving into a pond in New York. It wasn't in, you know, I was sucking in his heart. as I could. It's cold. I brought like a sock to put in.

Yeah. It's a whole. Relax. Do you want me to tell you what she said? Yeah, I do. I hate to say this, but I'm good.

I told her I would tell you. First off, I was very disappointed that you lost. I bet she said something nice about my body, didn't she? She goes, Riggs actually has a nice ass. I'm like,

you've got to be kidding me. I'm like, I delete immediately. Put it on your headstone. Yes. Hage Sparantic said Riggs has a nice ass. Things you thought. Here like,

never happened. Page thinks he has a nice ass. I knew that was coming. And yes, that will. I might put that in my Twitter bio right now. I've never been so disappointed. I don't know why it's not there already. It's hockey guy.

We got nice ass. These fucking legs and treat trot. You know, you got to have some muscle down in here. If only I knew how to use them in a golf swing, it would be awesome. Well, I'm happy,

I'm happy for you, but you blew it for the rest of the world. Yeah. Yeah. So, Riggs. Yeah, this has been great. We'll see you later.

We appreciate it. We don't want you to create. You're right. You're right. We'll see you soon. Yeah. See you soon. Well,

Well, yeah, keep the tears back. Thanks, fellas. Appreciate it. That was a buzz. All right. Well, that was Riggs from Barstool's Four Play podcast. I mean, what a great guy. What a story.

Harvard graduate. Obviously, spend all the money and all the time to go to Harvard to become on one of the biggest podcasts in the world. Yeah, starting off with blogging. Yeah, it would be hard to graduate from Harvard. Get a Harvard degree. You're expected to, like, run a hedge fund or be an investment banker or something. Come up. Oh, what are you doing with that Harvard degree?

I'm blogging. You can do that from your, from your grandma's basement. But, man, he's been a beast. interesting to know because I didn't know this going in, dude, he started off, like, as a political blogger. That was kind of his path and things like that. And then, you know, kind of started pushing, hey, I love golf. I want to cover golf.

And then that's how this thing was born. But there's a good lesson to all your kids out there. If you're trying to get a job or you're trying to pursue a girlfriend or whatever, and you send 50 emails and they all go unrespondent. Just keep sending them. Just keep sending them. Be relentless. Wait until a restraining order comes into place before you say no, because that's what he did, dude.

And now look at him. And he's taken off. He's got a monster show. Yeah, they do a hell of a job. it's really cool. I mean, this thing, like you said, it is a monster for them. We're going to catch them, though. We've passed it a couple times in the rankings there with some of our monster guests. We're coming for them. Yeah, they're the benchmark. They're the bar. I mean, they're the ones that are up there every single week. They do a great job.

They're at every event. They're putting on tournaments and doing things like that, which we may be involved with in the future. But, I mean, they do it. They do it big. And then Riggs is pretty much the reason that thing's gone from nothing to the biggest golf podcast out there right now. So props, props to Rigs. I thought it was really, really cool, like the time. He got to spend with Tiger Woods at Shadow Creek. Obviously, all the guys there. Everyone in the golf world is a huge Tiger fan, but they're like, they borderline stalk him.

And for him to get to spend that time with Tiger and talk about how nervous he was, I thought was really, really cool. But Slias, they've been ducking us a little bit because I threw the challenge out there quite a while ago. You know, they play this four-play scramble against these PGA tour players. They've done one against Paige Sparantic and a couple of her friends where the four-on-four scramble. I challenge them because obviously we're better at golf than they are.

I mean, we're studs. We're incredible, incredible talents. Yeah, I thought, you know, their scramble against the subpar best ball of gravy in the sleighs, I thought that'd be a hell of a matchup. I mean, we would dust them. But, you know, we're trying to get it done. But I think they're ducking us a little bit. That's fair, dude, because they go out and they play like Joel Damon straight up, you know, against them. And they play Pat Perez.

We're not tour players, but we play a little bit of golf. So best ball versus their scramble, I'm up for it. Let's go. Tranny for tranny, man to man. Let's go figure it out out here in the desert. I'm all the way in. You don't got to twist my arm. You know I like to compete.

might be the most excited I'll ever be on the first tee if this actually ever happens. Yeah, this would be a blast. We actually need to make sure that that goes down. Also, interesting thing talking to him too, because like outside looking in, we talk about, dude, your job's great. You cover golf. You go all these places. You play all these great golf courses.

But all the like social media hate that, you know, he talked about getting and things like that. Because he's not a golfer. He didn't grow up in the sport. He didn't play competitively. He didn't play on tour and all this stuff. And there's so many golfers out there's like, you can't cover golf or you can't do that unless you did this or that. And I think that's like, it's not, I don't think that's really fair. Because he doesn't claim to be, you know, hey, I'm a great player.

Or hey, I almost made it on tour. I did make it on tour or whatever. He's just like, I love golf. Dude, I'm a diehard golfer. I'm going to cover it the way I would like it to be covered if I was a guy consuming golf content. And he's done that. So, yeah, the social media hate that he's gotten. I know it's a lot.

And that's part of the deal just when you're the biggest guy on the block, when your bar stool, like whether you're great or not great, people are, there's going to be people out there don't love what you're doing. But he handles it. I think now he's got a good grasp on all that. Well, speaking of not great, it's time to get into the gambling segment of the show. Not our best performance over at Harbortown. My guy, Terrell Hatton, did make the cut.

You went a little risky with Kevin Kisner, who was battling some putting issues, went to a totally different style of putting, and another missed cut racked up for this leasy man. I mean, your resume is, you know, in the one and done is kind of looking like your jickey jack career. MC, MC, MC, 32. second MC MC yeah it's hard I would have I would have like to know that he broke his putter that's made him 82 million dollars prior to making that pick last week but I made it I'm going to stick with it and I mean the only good news is Tyrell Hatton who I love going into the week 39th it wasn't like a crushing blow so I didn't I didn't drop like you know too far but I mean

I got to make a move at some point but yeah a lot more emcees on the board than you would think when you can pick literally anyone the world every week all right well let's let's get a little update in the standings producer mark how we doing yeah so that t39 colt got you 30,885 ballooning your lead to one million six hundred and sixty three thousand dollars right in there i'm basically just my only loss i'm basically behind scotty shuffler making it to the finals of the world go of the match play and me not advancing out of the pool pool uh portion that's it well like you said there's a lot of golf left you said that every week i say it every week let's stay the course yard by yard inch by inch move the chains let's go that's how you rally the troops so yeah

this is the week i got a feeling though this is your honor yeah we got the zirk classic here in new orleans team event so this is a tough week because you got to have obviously two-man teams you got have both guys available and once you pick them they're both done for the year so if you use one of those big-name teams you know there's patrick can't lay zander shoplay you got john rom ryan palmer use one of them they're both done so difficult week but for me this week i'm going with the guys, I feel like this team's not getting quite the respect they deserve. You know, they're 25 to 1. You got one guy who's won twice here at this golf course, TPC, New Orleans.

One of them being an individual format, the other one he teamed up with Scott Piercy to win. The other guy is an LSU Tiger. I mean, pretty much basically grew up in this area, stud ball striker, you know, loves it around here, feels like it's home. The team of Philly Horshaw and Sam Burns is who I'm going with this week. Yeah, a little surprise seeing them down the board like that for all those reasons that you just mentioned. I'm just looking at it on paper. if I was handicapping them, at least just in order.

Like, I'd have them a lot higher than they are on the betting board. But Vegas typically doesn't get it wrong. But a good pick, a couple of southeastern dudes that are very comfortable playing down there in Louisiana. All right, I'm going to go with my pick, and I got very high expectations. I feel like this team is perfect because they're both guys that I like, but they might be just out of the brink of me picking them in the one and done individually. I feel like I would have picked one of them already if I was going to do it. But I'm going with Mark Leashman, Cam Smith.

They're the third betting favorite going off at 9 to 1. So Cam Smith, as you know, already a winner of this event. and he won it back with Jonas Blix a few years back. He's coming off back-to-back top tens, Augusta and Harbortown. Leashman, also in good form, T5 at Augusta. So both guys playing well coming into this. And I feel like alternate shot, Colt, I feel like is where this thing's kind of won or lost. You get the best ball format.

A bunch of teams are going to be making birdies. You got to put the pedal down. You got to go. Alternate shot is where you need to avoid the big digits. And Cam Smith, like, who's a better security blanket as a partner than Cam Smith? If you miss a green and you got, I mean, maybe he and Patrick Reed, the two best short games in the world, you know, at least, on the PGA tour. Nice little safety blanket for him there to know that no matter where you miss

it, Cam Smith can chip it stiff. So I'm going Cam Smith, Mark Leashman, and that's my pick. Nine to one they're going off at. And I need to make a move. The season is long. There's a lot of golf left colt, but at some point you got to put some points on the board. We're approaching that time for teams. I like both these teams a lot. So it's going to be a lot of fun to watch the Zurich classic here in New Orleans. I will be on the coverage. So make sure you tune in. And make sure you go to golf.com, go to the pro shop, check out that subpar collection, buy up all the cool hats, t-shirts, everything we got. A lot more coming too, but make sure you get that little birdie, birdie juice. He's a badass. Yeah, get this little skinny bird. Get my little skinny brother right

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