Subpar - Subpar's Caddie Special featuring Geno Bonnalie (Joel Dahmen) and Aaron Flener (J.T. Poston)

Episode Date: May 25, 2021

On this week's episode of GOLF's Subpar, PGA Tour caddies Geno Bonnalie and Aaron Flener join former PGA Tour pro Colt Knost and jicky jack legend Drew Stoltz for an exclusive interview from Quail Hollow. They explain how they ended up on the bags of Joel Dahmen and J.T. Poston respectively, the worst 'Caddie Cribs' they've stayed in while trying to save some cash, and sometimes having to double as a sports psychologist while on the bag.

Hello world. Welcome to another week of golf subpar, Colt Nost and Drew Stoltz. Going to break down the 2021 PGA Championship. Our guy, Phil Nicholson, 50 years young, gets the job done, Slease. I mean, dude, I don't know that I've ever been more exhausted after just watching a golf tournament. That thing was a roller coaster starting on Saturday all the way until the final put dropped on Sunday. There were times where I thought Phil, I was pretty sure he was going to have a six-shot lead at one point. And I was like, God, he might just run away and hide from everyone. This might be a snooze fest.

fast forward two or three holes later i was like well now he's blowing it and he might not even be within three by the end of the day on saturday and it was just back and forth i mean you couldn't have a more vintage fill weekend than we got from him you saw some unbelievable golf where he looked flawless unbeatable and somewhere you're like oh my god this thing's getting out of hand but it was one of the most fun major championships i've watched in a long time maybe maybe 2019 tiger type stuff it was so cool to watch it was so cool to be there i was behind the 18th green when he was finishing up got to give him a hug as he walked off the 18th Green. What a cool moment.

I mean, something I don't think, other than Phil, and maybe some of his team, I don't think we thought this day was going to come. I mean, he has had no form when he's played on the PJ Tour. He's done great on the PGA Tour champions, but to go out in a major championship, 99 of the top 100 in the world at a place like Keow Island, the Ocean Course, which in my mind didn't set up that great for him. He goes out and puts on an unbelievable performance.

Yeah, like you said, I don't think anyone outside of Phil's camp was looking at Phil. I'm like, yep, this is the week. But, I mean, talking with some of the players, they said, like, you can see some little glimpses here and there. We saw a little bit at Quill Hollow where he came out there with the opening round, you know, lead there and there was some good golf. But even going into the weekend, Colt, like, I don't know what you thought.

I was like, all right, he's leading. He's tired for the lead. This is really cool. At least he's going to be here. We're going to get Phil on a weekend and contention at the major. But it was like, you're almost just waiting for that one bad swing or that one bad run or something disastrous to happen. You just never know.

with Phil, what you're going to get. And then he comes out on Saturday, puts that four under on the board on the front nine where he looked perfect. Birdie 10. And that was the point in the tournament when I was like on 11. I was like, he has a chance to go to six here. This is, this is crazy. I was like throughout the weekend kind of like, when is this going to turn? When's Phil going to do some Phil stuff? And he never did. I was rooting for him the entire time. But there's just no sure things with him out there, especially on that golf course. I mean, you were out there, dude. How good did did they do with that place being that they made it? It was really tough. It was really hard. But they didn't cross that line like we've seen sometimes with the USDA to where it got weird and it just

got unfair. No, it was awesome. Carrie Hague is arguably the best in the business that's setting up golf courses. Did an unbelievable job. Yeah, it was extremely hard. I mean, the wins, three of the four days were brutal, but they set it up fair where if you played well, you got rewarded. If you didn't, you got punished. And I mean, look at the end of the day. I mean, you got to, if you look at the leaderboard, I think Harry Higgs was the only guy in the top five that was under 30 years old, which is pretty impressive because that's a place you had to really think your way around, really be patient, and the maturity, you know, of these veterans paid off. Yeah, it's not a place where you can just attack, attack, attack, like you can a lot of times

on the PJ tour. Like, Padrick Harrington came out and had a great week that week. It was nice to see Ricky Fowler, you know, kind of with a quiet top 10 there, but he was in fourth going into a 72nd hole. He had a good week. It was fun, but how about the scene on, dude, you were down there. That scene on 18. I mean, that was a shit show.

It was fun to watch. I love one in the gallery. Like you see it at the U.S. Open when they come up and they follow the players. But like clearly the security people at Kiwa weren't expecting either that many people or that many people that quickly because they could not, they couldn't get their hands around. I mean, Phil, after he had a second shot on 18, I'd like fight his way through the crowd. Dudes were jumping all over him. Like he just did a keg stand at the Lambda Chi house.

It was, it was cool to see. I felt bad for Brooks Kepka because that tournament wasn't over. I mean, it was two shots. If Brooks happens, I mean, he could have. hold his wedge. You know, he makes birdie, then you make Phil have to two putt to get the victory. It got a little out of hand, but at the end of the day, with Phil winning, it's so cool to see that scene, that after. I mean, just emerged from the crowd. I had an incredible video of it from behind the green where it's just this huge wall of people. And then obviously, here comes

Phil, the champ, through the middle of the gallery, thumb up in the air. So cool to see. He was so happy for him. I mean, it was an emotional win. And it's going to go down as one of the greatest performances in golf history, maybe in sports history. being 50 years old to beat one of the best fields you'll ever play against. Yeah, dude, those thumbs of his got to be on life support after this week. I mean, he was wearing those things out. And I feel like even in that moment in 18 when Phil was having to work his way through the crowd, guys were jumping on him.

It wasn't done, like you said. Like, it feels done to us. It might appear done after that second shot. But, like, as a player, it ain't done until the final put drops. And you could tell, like, I don't think he was all the way enjoying that moment. You know, he was kind of like, I still got work to do. And then afterwards, when it all erupted, I was like, this, he's done a lot of cool stuff in the game of golf. I think when it's all said and done, when he puts the clubs away and

he's not playing anymore, he looks back on that moment, on that 18th green to do it at the age of 50 and accomplish what he'd accomplish pretty much out of the blue. And with that environment, might be like his, one of his, if not the best, one of his favorite memories of his entire career. Yeah, hats off to Phil Mickelson on his six major championship. Can't wait to have you on golf subpar and learn even more about the great Phil Mickelson. Because he asked me, when are we going to have them on. I said, Phil, the floor is yours. You tell me, we will be in Rancho, Santa Fe, wherever the hell you want us. We will be there. It might, it might take two days to film this whole thing, but we will get it done. We'll give him every minute. He wants to go three hours,

Joe Rogan style. We could talk about aliens, cryptocurrency, whatever kind of weird shit he wants to talk about. We'll get into all of it with him. We'll fly to Juneau, Alaska, to meet him, but we got to get him. We're going to get him. This may have delayed that a little bit. He's going have a few media obligations right now, but we got to make sure we get out there and get Philly. But damn, man, what a win. I mean, that was cool to watch, and it had everything you want in terms of entertainment and emotion that entire weekend. That's a tough one to top. We're not going to see a major like that for a long time. It's going to take something special. Well, this week's episode is going to be tough to top. We have two beauties joining us.

We did our first combo episode. We got two guys sitting down for one. one interview. We got Gino Benelli, caddy for Joel Damon, and Aaron Fleener, caddy for JT. Post, and two of the biggest personalities out there, and they did not disappoint. Two dudes, one show. This was a fun one. We've been looking to get some caddies on for a while. No one better than these two guys. Two of the best guys on social media, two of the best personalities. And we had a little bit of everything. We get into the catty life. We get into some of the players, other caddies out there. This was a fun one, just some fellas kicking back, having a couple brews, getting amongst it a little bit and talking shop. This was

We'll have to run this back at some point with a couple other guys, too, because there's a lot of good ones out there. No doubt. And I do want to say, if you're watching this on video, you might notice I'm texting some stuff during the show. I was kind of putting out a small little fire because, you know, we got multiple jobs sleighs and something happened. It's all good now. We're great, but just don't think that I wasn't focused on the job. I was just doing two things at once. We're talented. We can handle that. It was not his Tinder profile. He wasn't swiping right or swipe him left or whatever you do. That was official business that we had to be handling out there. Yeah, dude, these guys were a blast. I think they enjoyed themselves, too. And like I said, this is a good format with two caddies that can kind of cut loose a little

bit. Don't have the brands to worry about that maybe some of the players do, and we'll have to run this back. But it's going to be tough to beat these two. They're two of the best. All right. Here they are. Gino Benelli, Aaron Fleener on Golf Subpar.

Oh, boy. Oh, boy. Here we go. Special moment here on Golf Subpar. Our first ever joint interview and who more worthy than these two men we have with us, the brains behind the greatness of J.T. Post and Joel Damon. Their esteemed caddies, Aaron Fleener and Gino Bonelli, boys. Let's talk some shit about your bosses. You ready?

Let's do it. Let's bash him. This is your time. Here we go. Unload. I'll tell you what, I was, I was so excited for this episode. I mean, I think our listeners and viewers out there might not know your faces, but at the end of this hour, they are going to love you guys. So thank y'all so much for joining us.

We do have great faces. You do. You're beautiful. Mine's more of a radio face, but. Fleener, though. Don't sell yourself short. Let's get right into it because obviously your caddies were two of the best players in the world. How did you even begin to stoop to the level of caddying? Man.

You start with me here, I suppose. We'll go with Fleener because Flaners, I know stories. Gino sent an email. I luckily knew somebody was really good at golf, which is the easiest way to get into caddion, probably. I'm a good friend, Kent Bull. 2015 asked me to come caddy for him on the Latin American PGA tour. Started at the top, now we're here. So I quit my job and went with him.

And he played really well down there and got us to the web tour. And then he let me go after half a year out there and got picked up by Stephen Yeager. And he played well and got us to the big tour. And then he let me go after about half a season. And then J.T. picked me up. And you get yourself a PGA tour win at, the Wyndham champion? Yes, sir. Things happened pretty unbelievable for you.

I mean, we'll get to... Yeah, I mean, I'm pretty lucky. Not a lot of... Rough goal. Not a whole lot of experience caddian. You actually carried the bag for me on the Corn Ferry Tour in Chattanooga. You taught me really everything I know. I did. I taught you that when it says it's 27 and 4, that doesn't mean it's four on and 27 from the left.

So that was a big thing. I gave Colton number and he said, nope, do it again. He said he wanted to do his numbers with me. So I said, sure, go on. And I got to him. I got 124. I got like 110, 134. He's like, well, I got like 110, 114.

I'm like, how is that possible? He's like, well, it's four on and 27 from the left. I'm like, no, bud. It's never been 27 from the left. Pinchis turned at a 9 degree angle. But we had a blast. But I mean, so you start catting. You go down there.

Your guy gets to the Corn Ferry Tour. You're a part of a 58 with Stephen Yeager. Yeah, fourth week on the bag. Hello, this game looks pretty easy. Yeah, I, you know, yeah, I was very fortunate. I mean. Y'all won twice? We won three times.

We won once the first year, Academy, and then twice the next year. And your poor friend, Matt Irwin,'s out there, just grinding away for years, never unscrewed a flag stick, and here you come and just start, he started carrying a pair of pliers around. Yeah, I don't even have enough room for them.

I decided to buy a new house. That's it. And, Gino, you might have the award for most understanding wife in the world. You took a bit of a leap of faith going with your boy, Joel. Talk about how that came to be. So we were on vacation,

our family vacation, and Joel was leading the money list on the McKinsey tour, which got him a sponsor invite in the Canadian Open one year when he was still on that tour. And he went out after the first couple days and was like in fourth place. And I was like, Holly, he's guaranteed the web.com for cornfairy now next year. And obviously he can play. I mean, I've known Joel can play forever, but I was like, I want a caddy for him. I want to quit my job. So I started talking about it with my wife much before.

even brought it up to Joel. Because I knew if I talked to Joel about it, he would probably let me do it. So I had to convince the wife. So I sweet talked her for a while, and I wrote Joel like this long email that's out there somewhere. But once he won the money list, and I don't know why he agreed to have me do it, but he did. But I mean, that's just such a big jump for you.

Like, I mean, you're going to Caddy, you're not on the PJ tour. You're going to the Corn Freight Tour where salaries aren't that big, purses aren't that big? No, I knew if I was going to get to the PGA tour with Joel though, I had to put in some time elsewhere. I couldn't just be like, yeah, let me be a PGA tour caddy. So I had to go put in my time for a couple years out there with him. Was it more that you wanted to caddy for Joel or you just wanted to quit your job?

It was more. I mean, my job was comfortable, right? I had my routine. I didn't mind my job. I made okay money. I could play golf on the weekends. Like it was fine, but I wanted to caddy for Joel. And I knew.

he would be where he is. What's more fun? What's more fun? Cating for Joel or being the mascot at your college? Cating for Joel, definitely. Being the mascot. Can we please? This one requires more cheerleading.

Tell us a little bit about that, though. That was, it was a volunteer position. So there was another guy in my fraternity that had done it for a couple years and he was graduating and he just asked me one day. I think we're having some beers. He's like, do you want to? University of Idaho. Sorry.

Joe Bandle. Joe Vandal. The Vandals. Yeah, I don't have my yardst book cover on me. But, yeah, so I was Joe Vandle for a year. And there's no training that goes into it. He's like, all right, the suits kept in this locker, go to this address, go down, put it on, and go nuts. Every sport, there's no training.

I did basketball and football for a year. And football was bad because the team was bad. And we've got like six people in the stands. And it's a thousand degrees in the suit. So I got one quick. Well, I got a couple stories, but I'll make this one. Quick, the head that I wore, it harnessed in three spots. I had like two buckles here and then one on the back.

And the head was so big I couldn't reach the top of it. So it's not exactly sturdy on my body. And this male cheerleader comes out to me just before halftime of a basketball game. And he goes, hey, you're going to dunk at halftime. And I'm like, I can't dunk without this. suit on. Like, yeah, right. He goes, no, I'm going to get on all fours. You're going to jump off my back. I'm like, are you kidding me? I mean, okay. I mean, I'll try. So the way the suit is set up, I looked out of Joe's mouth. So they hand me this basketball. I walked to

half court. In basketball, there was a few more people in attendance because it was fun to go to basketball games. So I'm peering through the mouthhole of Joe here. I see the male cheerleader on all fours and I take off and run and the head's like flopping around and I'm losing sight of where I'm going and so I'm trying to hold it and hold the basketball in my hand and I kind of step on his back and I don't I didn't even touch the rim with the basketball and the word and so I made just an ass of myself and I'm like oh well I'm glad it's over and then the announcer gets on the PA is like let's see him try it again I'm like no I got We got rim check the second time though, felt pretty good about it.

Yeah, that's incredible. This is Gino Bonelli, by the way. Very you ladies out there. I was just praying no one knew it was me in there. But people would always drunk, people would come up to me. There was a little 9 volt battery operated fan that's inside the head to try to help you keep you cool. There was no cover on it, so people would sock me in the face, and then the fan would hit me in the mouth. And I could feel my lips bleeding, but you couldn't do anything about it because the head is like strapped on me.

I'm just, cattying's easy. Yeah, I would have lasted 20 minutes in that suit and been like, I'm the same. The way it all came to an end was this guy came up to me at halftime of the final home game and was like, hey man, I was Joe a few years back. I really want to do it one more time before I graduate. I'm like, done. So we go behind the stands at halftime and I strip out of this thing.

I had basketball shorts and a T-shirt underneath. I'm like, here you go, see you. And I just left. Well, it turns out he was a little intoxicated. and he ran behind the opposing team's bench and start slapping guys in the head. And everybody thinks it's you. Oh, yeah.

So the guy called me, he's like, you're fired. I'm like, you didn't pay me anyways. Who cares? I quit at half the time. Exactly. Who cares? I mean, obviously, incredible mascot.

You're an incredible singer. You got the voice of an angel. So I've been told. Yes. And at some point, we know you're going to give us bust out some lyrics. You're not scared of a karaoke bar. At what age did you know you were a pretty damn good

singer. It really wasn't until I was in college and I was pledging this fraternity I was in and they were like, had us singing some song and one of the guys was like, wait, you can actually sing a little bit. I was like, really? And then I ran with it after that. Now you cannot compliment later. He gave me an it. No, you know, I'm singing songs about Augusta and whatever. That turned out so good, by the way. That was incredible. You did. That song about J.T. Post and what Luke Combs was a song? We both just drew a blank on this. Better together. This is your hit single, dude. You know the name of your hit single? Better together. I can't even listen to that song anymore. No, all I hear is your lyrics. Well, we know Colin Baton Rouge is obviously your go-to karaoke.

Is there any others you specialize in? Yeah, I mean, I can do a little rumor by Lee Bryce. You know, I can do some Luke Combs. I'll do whatever. Do you want to give us some of your specialty, we'll call him Baton Rouge? Do you need a beat or we? You need another couple beers? I don't need a beat.

Well, Acapella, let's go. I'll do the end because the end's the best. Yeah, okay, Aaron Fleener. I'm so excited right now. Always do the start of it. I'll do the end. Okay. Hello, Samantha, dear.

I hope you're feeling fine. And it won't be long until I'm with you all the time. but until then I'll spend my money up right down to my last time. Oh, no. Can we cut that? Yeah, I bet you'll cut that. Always run out of air right there. I'm about to throw my panties on the sleep.

I don't think I've ever heard you do Lee Bryce rumor. I might need a little piece of it. How does it start? I always have the words when I sing it. Yeah. Now, once you go cold? No, I don't know. I just know the words.

I don't know it. if I could just know the first two words, I could get it going. On it. Let me caddy you up. Gino, I'll get it. All right. Question for you, since you're an aspiring singer, better chance of happening. Fleener getting a record deal or Rory reconsidering Gino's offer to be a caddy.

Which happens first? I think I would get a record deal before. You know, a caddy for Rory. Have you heard from Rory since the email? That was an incredible email, dude. I appreciate that. So what happened was, there you go, Fleener. Yeah, check that.

We got paired with him at Tori Pines like the next year after, and Rory introduced himself, and we're walking down the first hole in Tori, and Joel goes, Hey, Rory, I got to ask you, did you ever see Gino's email? And he's like, I don't know what you're talking about. And he's like, you've got to read this letter. He's like, okay. And I was like, I'll print it for you and I'll give it to you at the next event we both play, which happened to be Bay Hill.

So I took the time, I went through, and I kind of edited it and cleaned it up and because I didn't realize the first one was going to blow up so there's probably some grammatical stuff that he needed fixed so fixed that I put it in his locker said thanks Rory and left it at that and then the next time we saw him again I'm like Rory did you get my letter he's like letter I'm like I taped it to your locker and he goes oh yeah I got it and he go and did you read it and he goes no damn it but for everyone at home like he was him and J.P. So he was kind of looking for a new caddy and you decided to reach out. Oh yeah.

First of how did you get his email? Well, I was strictly Twitter. Okay. I just fit it to a screenshot and I just said at Rory Maca. Do you remember a few of the highlights of it? Yeah, some of your strengths that you had. Oh man, my bunker raking is a very good strength. I'm very punctual and I really focused on that, you know, like to the airport where I was actually

typing it in the airport and I was way too early. The airport wasn't even open yet, and I'm sitting there, like, waiting for it to open. So I kind of focused on how I'm always over-prepared and always on time. Didn't you say something about your archery background? Oh, yeah. So, inside. So, Joel, it's really funny because from, like, 65 yards and in, I'm pretty good at just being like, it's 57 yards without having to step anything off. and so most of the time when we get kind of that range he's like how far we got and he just goes

with it that's the least surprising thing ever with Joel he's got some of these weird nuances because he's come on our show I'm known for a long time playing the jikis and Canada and all that type of stuff and he'll have these like I got the eight iron yips and he won't hit an eight iron even if it's the perfect distance right here punch out yeah I can't punch out for the life of me I can't punch out is it hard to keep up with all these like shit that's what are we doing this week dude this Is this no driver week? This week, no, it's actually been pretty good for the last year or two.

For a while there, the first couple years on tour, it was every week was something brand new, some sort of yips or thing he had to do. I'm like, man, this guy's lunatic. I mean, he's really good, but he's... Also in Memphis, do you remember when they flip the fake coin to decide what club he was going to hit on that par three? On 11?

Oh, tell us the story. Yeah, let's hear it. Let's see, what is that 11 in Memphis? So we're, yeah, we're kind of going back and forth. And this is WGC event. And I think I was on nine and he was on eight. It was really, you know, try to hit one hard or take six off of one or whatever. And he goes, all right, let's do this.

And he goes, there's nothing there. And he just grabs the other club from me and hits it to like this. Like, I don't even know what just happened. But it was amazing. I'm going hard. I got the knockdown yips right now. That's unbelievable. He's a special human, that's for sure.

Plainer, give me in your time cadding maybe the best call you've made and possibly the worst. I'm going to do this with both you, but Fleener, go first. The best? I'll go with the worst first. We were working for JT. We were in Dallas playing at Trinity Force, and we were coming down like the last four holes or something. We're like right around the cut line. We probably need a birdie.

So we're on 15, hit a good. driving the fairway i get this number give it to him whatever he stripes this shot at the at this back right flag i'm like oh that looks amazing that's good we're gonna make birdie it comes up 10 yards short of the green he's like man he looked at me he was like i hit that good you know and i was like oops that's the yeah uh i was like i did that off the last green because it was a par five and we didn't i didn't do a number because he hit it down by the green I didn't exit off. And so, yeah, thank goodness he got it up and down.

He had like eight feet for par, and I've, like, never been so nervous over one of his spots. We missed cut. We missed cut. It cost him some money, but whatever. Is there one where, like, he was leaning one way and you talked him out of something? Yeah, I mean, that happens sometimes. And to his credit, you know, whenever that happens, he'll be like, hey, that was a good call right there. I thought you were going to say all 72 holes at Windham.

Man, that was just trying to stay out of the way that week. He was on fire. You know, no bogeys. Trying to think if there was anything. He called me afterwards. He goes, he goes, you seen any bogeys? I haven't been able to find any this week. You got him.

He found him. He found him. He got to find any bogey free. That's unbelievable. Yeah. I mean, he hit it so good on that Sunday. I didn't have to do anything. What was easier?

Cating for him that week or Yeager's 58? They were both super easy because, I mean, I was only four weeks in with Yeager. And I wasn't due. I was stepping off. That was about it. 58, that good? And like, you know, after like 12 holes, I'm like, he's like 11 under or something like that.

And like, so we get to this hole where you shouldn't go at the pin, you should hit it like 15 feet left. So I'm like telling him, hey, yeah, we just keep it just left of that. He hits it. I look up, it's flying right at it. Goes to like this. I was like, I'm just going to shut up. I just going to agree with everything.

I was going to get out of the way here. So, yeah. I mean, that was an easy day. That was an easy week. I mean, he shot 30 under that week. That'll do it. That's fine. 58, 65, 64, 63.

Yeah, that'll get you some chicken. What about you, do you know, do that and stand out? Well, so, yeah, a couple. You want bad or good first. Let's go bad. Well, I want to hear what you think's bad because I did talk to your boss about this. Oh, really? I'm interested to see it.

I'm really curious. I don't know if it was, in my head, I still support what I allowed him to do. on this, but it was during the web finals are trying to get our PGA tour card back. Is this the same one he said? No. Okay, so we needed a sixth place finish in Cleveland. I forget the name of the golf court, Canterbury, maybe? Yeah.

And we're leading through 54 holes, and sixth place gets us our card back. And just don't do anything dumb on Sunday, and we're probably going back to the PGA tour. So number eight is this hole. straight away, OB left, trees right. It's fairly simple. You didn't hit hybrid, seven iron, whatever. But he struggled with the Tee ball all week,

losing it in the right trees. And we get up there to the T, and he's like, don't let me hit, all week you're leading up to him. He's like, don't let me hit driver on Sunday, on this hole. Like, no, we get there. And you're not hitting driver.

He's like, I'm hitting driver. Like, no, you're not. He's like, I'm hitting, I'm... He told me not to let you. He's like, but I'm... It's what I'm coming. with I'm going to do it. Hits it in the right trees.

We get up there and he actually had a pretty decent like punch through window to chase one up toward the front of the grain, but the rough is heavy in the branches. You gotta keep it under like eight to ten feet. Punch out yips too. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We're going back and I'm like, you know, we had talked about if you get in trouble, get it back in the fairway and I should, I thought he could hit the shot. So I said, you know, I really think you can keep one under these branches and get it on up around the front of the green.

He goes, I do too. So, and we've done a good job of chipping out all week. But that one we took on. And it was one of those ones you lean on a little bit and totally de-loft and a ball doesn't come out of the rough at all. And it just rolls like eight yards. And I'm like, oh, no. Here we go. Oh, no.

Now it's in a worse spot and a worse lie. And we have to chip it out and chip it out. And he's chirping at me. He's like, you're supposed to make me a hybrid. You're supposed to make me chip it out. And I'm like, oh, God, you know, you're right. I'm sorry. But I'm sorry.

I don't know what else to say. So he's on me. And then hits the next one over the green and doesn't get up and down. Makes double. And he's on me after every shot. And this is the first and only time we've ever had a, Like, butted. One time.

One time. Wow. So. Is that the case with you and your caddies? Yeah. That is incredible. One time of day. Well, I hope I ended it properly.

I don't know. We haven't fought since. So he makes double and he's still like, I can't believe you didn't make me chip out there. And I'm like, okay, I'm going to wear it to a point. But you need to play some golf. I'm sorry. Like, let's go. And then after he gets the ball out of the hole and goes to throw it to me,

throws it over my head into a bunker. I'm like, That's fun. Let me go rake this bunker. So I get down there and I get the ball out and I get it cleaned again and I give it to him. And he goes, I got a monkey working for me today. And I'm like, okay, I'm losing it. And I turned around and I grabbed him by his shirt and I put a finger in his face.

And I was like, I didn't think you can hit a ball in the air. I wouldn't have let you hit the shot. And like, we got into it on the T-box. And immediately after I felt okay. I've never really told this story before. And... Am I getting in trouble? Yeah, sorry, Joel.

So... What did he do when you grabbed him? Yeah. His eyes were just like... Oh my gosh. Oh, my gosh. So... And then as soon as I got it out, I was okay.

And then I was like, all right, you got winning off the left. You got $2.90 into that bunker. You know, it was a target. And he hits one, like, miles left and kind of chops it around. And ends up making a par in the ninth hole. It's part five. And we're walking off the T-box. And he goes...

Dude, I'm so sorry. I was eight back there. I was like, don't worry about it, we're fine. Like, I felt better. I really did. And then we get back in, like, he climbed all the way back into the lead again and did the same thing on 18.

We make a double. But we get done, and we look up, and we finish sixth, which was good enough to get to our car. Double at 18 to finish six. Wow. Oh, no. And...

Tap in sixth? It was. You have a three? It was an easy double. Yeah. And... Easy double. It was kind of emotional from both of us because, you know, getting back to the tour is a huge deal.

And there was a lot of pressure on him, of course. And I mean, I understand what he's going through. And I was trying to help. I thought we could make a par maybe by punching one up to the front. So that was probably, that was the biggest interaction and fault. I think, Joel obviously has a different answer. Well, he told me there was an example. For example, there was one on the now Corn Ferry Tour where y'all might have showed up to the first two with only 10 clubs in the back.

Oh, yeah. That's a fantastic story. Just for short. Yeah. We get to like number two or three. And I was like 125, you know, 115, 125 is perfect gap wedge. And he goes, where's gap wedge? I was like, I don't know.

We didn't warm up that morning. No, there was no warm up. It was, we went, we had a late tea time that day. And he goes, you want to grab lunch on the way to the course? I'm like, sure. And he's like, do you want a gin and tonic at lunch? I'm like, sure. So I'm like, that's a good boss.

We got to get going here. He's like, shot like 78 in the first round. So it was kind of one of those, who cares? We get to the course, pulled the clubs out of the trunk. And what happened was a few of them stuck on something, pulling them out. And we walked straight to the tea. And I didn't notice or count them or anything like that. And then so he goes, okay, I guess I'll chip the pitching wedge.

And he goes, where's a pitching wedge? I was like, I don't know the answer to that one either. Boss, I think it's a little eight. So we had that number two holes in a row. That it didn't matter. Oh, that's beautiful. This bag was light. Yeah.

Which one did he give you? No, that one. Oh, yeah. He gave me one at RIV. Was it a good one? Can we focus on some good things I've done? This was a bad. This was, I only asked for bad, I think.

But it was a Rive, like you had like a 60. I think it was number eight maybe. Oh, yeah. That was this year. You subtracted instead of adding. That happens. That's the worst. I mean, we needed to go like three under in our last 10.

And I give him this number and he finally hits one like online or target that I'm like, oh, this is going to be a kick-in. And it lands just on the front fringe and spins down in the hazard. And he's like, how far did we have there? I'm like, not what I told. Little further than you hit it there, chief. It happens, okay. It does, it does, dude. And you guys have to be like part-

sports psychologist out there too knowing your guys getting hot how to handle them so with each of your guys if you notice them starting to get a little pissed off and they're getting hot under the collar and things like that what how do you handle your guys are they rah-rah guys like hey let's go let's go get them buddy come on champ or are you like we need i need to chill out i'm gonna walk about 10 yards in front and behind him and let him yeah j t's not really a rah-rah guy but i mean he'll get mad and he'll just like get it out it's not really mad at me he's just mad if he's not playing good and you just got to talk it out and I usually don't say much because some of the you know how does this happen how did this happen and I got an answer I'm just not going to say it that's not the time to answer that

question you like my honest opinion so I just walk behind him and let him get it out and he's usually fine you know I've got about two times a year I think you can bring out the rah-rah with some of these guys like I did one in Palm Springs he was kind of being pouty wasn't playing good and I was like look I was like I don't care if you shoot a million but like let's have fun like let's not be like down in the dumps all day he's like you're right you're right and so but if you overuse those yeah you got to know when to go to the well with that what about what about Joel sometimes yeah he's very negative and this sounds weird but he almost responds better if I criticize him or if I make fun of him like, dude, that was terrible.

You know, like a little challenge. Yeah. Like, or, you know what he does really well? This is, it's funny, I don't understand the golfer's mentality, but he could have a put for $50,000 and I can make him a side bet for like $3 on it. And all he's thinking about is that $3, like he wants to beat me. So, we do a lot of, you know, there's a center stripe on this hole. if you were within X amount of mo stripes from the center.

I bet you $20 you can't get it within there. And we'll do little games like that amongst. So the $3.00 more than the 50 racks? Yeah, it's weird. But he responds to it really well. How's your game? I mean, what's your golfing back then? I went through the PGM program at the University of Idaho via club pro.

I'm okay. He qualified for the U.S. midam two years ago. So you got game. I mean, I'm a... Have you ever beat... Have you ever beat Joel? I have... I took Joel's course record from them at my home course.

Oh, how did that go? That's real golf. Felt amazing. Was you the first person you called? So, it was actually. I called Joel before I called my wife because Joel had it at 63 and I beat it by 2. Ooh, by 2.

601. Okay, so you have a lot of... Yeah, don't... You'll just shoot 61. It was a good day. Well, yeah, I would hope so. Shit. That was the last time I played.

I'm fairly confident in saying Fleener, you probably never beat your pro. When's your last 62? The lowest I've ever shot in my life was 63, and that's when I was playing a lot, a lot. But I don't play a lot at all. I don't even play a little. That's incredible. You're chasing a record deal.

You don't got much time. So a lot of people I don't think know, like, how the caddy life is out on the tour. I mean, you see the players, you know, in their net jets, putting it on Instagram, you know, staying at the Ritz Carlton, y'all maybe go a little different route. You know, don't quite make the money as the PJ. I know where this is going. But Gino, you're known as, you know, you're not scared to slum it maybe a few weeks.

No, I'm not. If it is a shower and a bed, I'm okay. So give us your maybe worst experience. I know you like to do a lot of VRBOs or burbo, whatever you would call it. Before he starts. Yeah, try him in here. I love staying with Gino because we're very good friends. We have a great time together.

but if he ever asked me, hey, I've got this spot for this week, do you want to stay? I will never say yes right away. I'll be like,

you're going to have to send it to me. I'm going to have to see it first because he'll, if it saves him $7 for the week to stay in a dump, he'll do it. And like, I just...

That's an all-star, man. When we're different, I mean, I'm single and he has a family so he's, you know, a little better with his money. Seven bucks. That's it you're a big. Poland. That's my meal, dude.

So preface what he's about to say about where he stays. I mean, we stayed in some pretty janky spots on the web tour and Puerto Rico was an exceptional poor place one time, but I mean, you're alluding to the PGA championship of Bethpage. And

yeah, that was something else. So what had happened? You want me to tell the quick story? Yeah, no. That's what we're here for him. We got all the time in the world. I had been burned the year before Or, let's see, no. Where was it? Sorry.

Where was that? There was somewhere you checked into one time that didn't have beds. Yeah. Oh, so that was at Bethpage. So I went to Bethpage a couple years ago, and my Airbnb canceled on me when I got there. And I was so angry that I had to rebook a new place because I had a bunch of friends and family coming.

So the only other place I could find was like $3,000, because out there on Long Island. There's nothing. That's a tough week, yeah. So I rent this house that's for sale and there's nothing in it. So I pay three grand and then I got to go to Walmart and buy a bunch of inflatable beds for everybody. Real quick. But the description, I imagine, was on the internet and it just didn't mention that you know.

It was just like, well, the dude, it did say that. And then he messaged me and was like, I'll bring in a couple beds. So he brought in two and just like threw him on the floor. But I'm like, I need four more. There was no table, no plates or silverware or anything like that. Don't be a Viva, dude. We went and got... So there wasn't a flat screen either, I imagine.

There was not. There was no TV whatsoever. I did an episode of the Caddy Cribs. That was... That was genius. So Fleener actually came up with that. It was that... I used to do some of those when I was on the Latin tour.

Some of the places we would stay in were pretty special. That's gold. Y'all need to keep that. So it was... That place... That really burned me. So fast forward to, it was the U.S. Open at Wingfoot this year, I get there and I land at Newark, and I get a message from my Airbnb host saying, sorry, we got to cancel your reservation.

Yeah. Yep. And I'm like, I already have this address. You are not canceling on me. I am going to be there in an hour and a half. There's nothing you can do to stop me because I know where I'm going. And so I get the rental car and I start driving and she calls me. And she's like, Gene, I'm so sorry.

I'm like, no, no, no, no. I'm staying there this week. Like, it was a good price and it was a perfect location. And she goes, tell you what? She goes, give me 24 hours. You can stay there, but just not tonight. I'm like, she goes, I'll even pay for your hotel room. I'm like, okay, something clearly is going on.

She has a beach club or something. Yeah, I appreciate the fact that she was trying to make it right. So I'm like, okay, look, I'll get my own hotel room. We'll take it off the Airbnb fee for the week. and I'll see you tomorrow. So, okay, great, thank you. So I had pulled over into a shell gas station. I just Googled hotels near me,

and the Mamerinick motor inn was like 0.7 miles. So I called him, and I said, yeah, do you have any vacancy tonight? He's like, yeah, we're good. How much? He goes, 100 bucks. And I was like, does that include taxes and parking? He's like, yep, 100 bucks. Cash.

Okay. So I showed up. Yeah. And it was one of those, you know, you just park it. It's a single story and there's just like 30 doors. And he's like, you're in door one. Maybe that's the VIP suite. Turned out it was not.

Not very good. We actually had a murder just thing, play. So a room opened up. That was the worst place I had seen. You put you down here where you can't see the police sirens going. Just walk your way under the yellow tape. Yeah, I recorded that video that I put on Twitter. And it was funny because, you know, it was funny because.

I think I tweeted it out in the evening on maybe Monday evening, and I could show up to the golf course on Tuesday morning, and it was a hit, apparently. Yeah, it was a hit. Those things are gold. And had I known it was going to explode, I probably would have focused on a few more things because I didn't really get into the shower,

and the shower was incredible. That was the water. I don't remember the water that doesn't stand out in my mind. I had hot water, but the shower was tight. tiled and black tile that were all like shattered and there was pieces of the tile in the shower and it was I love the part of the story where you're like it was all funning games until like I put my phone down yeah because people were messed to you on yeah so it got kind of got interactive and then it's like I shut it off shut my eyes like okay it's like almost midnight I got to go to sleep and get up

in the morning I put the phone down and then I start like looking around I'm like I don't want to be here like my TV wouldn't turn off all the way I had the this weird poltergeisty glow to it. And every time somebody would walk by my window, their shadow would, like, cast against my wall. And I was like, whew. Ball. Joel told me that, while we're on this subject,

Joel told me to ask you about the one at Riviera this past year. Let's see. At Riv. Oh, yeah. We stayed together. Me, you and Flynn. Oh, yeah. That was just, I mean, the place was fine.

it was just it was cheap and very inconvenient I got like a $63 parking ticket that week for parking more than the room We had to The only way to access the building was a garage door opener

And the dude gave us One garage door opener for the three of us So I'm like okay This isn't going to work How else can we get in the building? He's like use the garage door opener I'm like there's three of us That are coming and going at separate times

He's like well you need to figure out Who's going to be there first And give it to them I didn't pay that ticket, by the way. Oh, man. You're on the road right now? I didn't take that ticket, by the way. Could be some warrants for me out in California.

Actually, you know what? I bet Joel was talking about the year prior because I moved out of a place due to rats the year before at Rios. I do remember that. Maybe it was that one. Yeah, I'm sure that's the one he was probably talking about. He said Riviera.

Yeah, that's the one he was talking about. I found a place. it was like glamping. I didn't know what glamping was. Are you familiar with glamping? Glammer is camping? Yeah, apparently. These got these little tiny trailers that they put in this guy's backyard.

Isn't that what it is? So apparently, so I walk into this commune, and there's people like just watching TV hanging out in this house. And I walk in, I've got my suitcase and stuff, and nobody acknowledges that I'm there. I'm like, hey. Hey, roomies. You guys know where I'm staying?

And they're like, nope. So I'll pull up my phone. I'm like, okay. So I go out in the backyard. It says, exit through the kitchen. Okay, exit through the kitchen. And then there's three campers and a tent back there. And I'm like, and it said I'm on the right.

I'm like, okay, in the tent. So I unzip the tent. There's this dude laying there. I'm like, nope, not that one. Sorry, bud. You have to double check when Gino's like, I got a spot. So I finally find a camper. and the space to get into the front door was so narrow I couldn't get my suitcase into it.

I'm fairly thin and I had to suck it in to like wedge myself over and get the door open and I get in. And my lights were to turn on in the camper were only Christmas lights. And so I turned on my Christmas lights and it was kind of cold that night. I remember that I had a sleeping bag and I text my wife. I'm like, this place is something. the width of the camper was narrower than I am tall, so I had to curl up in the fetal position a little bit. But I slept okay.

I got up in the morning. I went back into the universal common shower area, and there were so many empty shampoo and soap bottles piled in the bathtub. I was like, this isn't real. So I started cleaning up a little bit. I'm like, this is disgusting. I probably threw 15 of them away.

That's no exaggeration. We can know a whole episode. Genoa's steak. I get out, and it's early enough in the morning that there wasn't other people around. So I get up, get changed, get in the car, drive. We play our practice around door thing. And Joel had just bought a trackman that week and asked me to go get him an iPad to go with his trackman. So I went to the Apple store that afternoon, and I go back, and I'm sitting in this living room,

and I'm setting up the iPad, and I see something move out of the corner of my eye, and I look up, and Master Splinter is walking up. walking across the kitchen and I was like oh hell no so I'm I kind of moved and he turned and ran back under the oven and I went and got my shit and got out of there it was bad you're setting up your 25,000-dollar trackman for your boy you're ducking rats and you're exactly anything else I can do for what about the one where you stayed somewhere and you came out the next morning and the whole family was sleeping on the floor in the living room oh dude you

This is like a one-bedroom place and they're renting out the bedroom and they That's where I went after the rats. Oh, that was the upgrade. That was an upgrade. Yeah. So now that you all have won on the PGA tour, are you, I mean, are we staying in a little nicer places? I, yes, but I don't like it.

Like, I mean, I enjoy the places, but I'm like, I don't want to spend $500 this week. Are you kidding me? Yeah. I got us a place for Colonial that's like, six. 600 each. It's nice. We both have our own bathroom, own bedroom. He's like, 600. I'm like the 220 for the week kind of. Seven nights for 220. Yeah. Okay. For those of you the number, you're going to math. That's just over $30 a night. Yeah. I mean. Yeah, that checks out.

So I'm going on a limb and say you don't pay for Wi-Fi on the airplane in between stops. In fact, I was coming here, it's funny you say that, because the monthly Wi-Fi subscription is $49.95. That's absurd. Like for a month? How often do people fly, like to make it worth $49.95? A lot less than you. My internet, right? My internet at home is that expensive.

And never mind. What percent would you say you've stayed in a place where an actual murder is taking place? Probably fairly high. Yeah, 75%. Yeah. This is a man that started a blanket ladder business during COVID. Blanket ladder. I was like, called him one day.

I'm like, Gino, I missed him. I was like, we've been up to. He's like, well, started making these blanket ladders. And if you don't know what that is, it's a ladder that you hang blankets on. Poverry barn sells it for like your high demand. How are you still carrying? Right?

One of my buddies at home, his wife wanted one and she knew I wasn't doing anything. I was semi-handy. If you guys want one, you got. Have you taken this to shark tank yet? Cuban might have a piece of this. She was like, do you know, you think you can build this for me? I'm like, oh, yeah, that's easy. So I built one and then her friend wanted one and then her friend wanted one.

So before you know, I'm building like 10 blanket ladders, and each one of them wants it stained a different color and a different size. Did Joe get nervous? No, he might blow up. If your blankets aren't good hanging on the back of your couch, get you a ladder. That's right. Get you a Gno ladder.

Fleanor, are you like that? You got any, you got to have some crazy places staying down in Latin America tour. Honduras was special. We had to like drive around like this little pond that I don't. don't even know if it was a real pond or if it was just, you know, or a lot of water having to gather. The next week, I was like, my chest was, like, broken out. I'm pretty sure there was bed bugs.

It was hot. And, uh, boy, the great thing about Honduras was one night they had these boxing matches and they had like 10-year-olds fighting each other. Yeah, real fights. And we're betting on this stuff. I mean, girls are fighting each other. Oh, I never heard of this story. 10 year olds.

A couple little people fought each other. I mean, and we're throwing around money like crazy. I'll take the little kid with a teddy pair for 20. It was awesome. Oh, my God. That's incredible. Let's talk a little about your nickname because a lot of people call you the big cat. Yeah.

Which there also might be another guy that plays golf, kind of known as the big cat. Tiger Woods. Yeah. Y'all got paired together. We did. Did you explain to him that you're the real big cat? I didn't bring it up. You let that one go?

Yeah. I didn't talk to him that much. They T-talked to him quite a bit, but it was awesome. He was great. But, yeah, that nickname came from Keith Mitchell and Harry Higgs the year down on Latin America. They started calling me the Big Cat, and then it just caught on. And you guys don't know how it is with nicknames. Like, if you fight it, they're going to make it even worse.

And so I just embraced it. I mean, and your Kentucky Wildcat fan. I'm big. Big. I'm big. You like milk? Makes sense. It fits, you know.

Do you know you got a nickname? Keith Mitchell and Brandon. Harkins started calling me Laser. I think it's kind of a dual purpose. So I watched American Gladiators all the time when I was a kid and I wanted my, I wanted my name to be Laser. I thought Laser was like the coolest word and name ever, right? So we went out to a taco joint one night and they asked me for the name for the order and I was like, Laser. And so we're sitting there waiting for tacos and she's like, Laser! And Harkins and Keith Mitchell were like, wait what? So I kind of told them.

I was like, I always wanted my name to be laser. We did it at Starbucks one time, too. I think I had the video. I like it. But, Gita, I got to ask you this one. I don't really know the whole story, but I'm just going to go with it this way, okay? Has there ever been a time where all the bathrooms

are full at your house and someone had to go outside? This one? That's a good segue from what's your nickname to tell us this story. I feel like these stories are all too long, though. I need to, like, short. It doesn't matter. This is one of the greatest stories I've ever heard. I recently told it to another.

So it was Halloween morning and my wife was home. My son was off of school. He's seven. And we needed to go get some candy for kids coming that afternoon. And so the wife was like, let's go to Starbucks and grab a coffee and go to the store and run some errands. So perfect. We go to Starbucks, go to this grocery store, buy one of those five pound bags of candy and we're running a couple errands. I look at my wife. I'm like, we need to go home now. Coffee's working. And she goes, agreed. Bridesmaid situation. Right? Yeah. So. I literally was remodeling one of our bathrooms in the day before I had taken the toilet out. We had a three-bathroom house, and I took one out because I was tiling the floor, so now we were a two-bathroom house. So I run in, I run downstairs, my wife goes upstairs, and after just a couple minutes, my son comes in and goes, Mom, I got to go to the bathroom. And she goes, go outside. So, he's like, all right.

So we, back the story up a little further. We have a new golden retriever puppy at the time, and he hadn't gotten his parvo shots yet, and my son knew that he couldn't eat other dogs, or feces he could get parvo and die. So fast forward to present day. My son goes into the backyard. My wife thought he had to pee.

He didn't have to pee. He had to go deuce in the backyard. So apparently he's sitting there, pants around his ankles just squatting in the backyard. And he does his thing. And then the puppy jumps on him, knocks him over into his feces. And he starts crying.

And then the puppy starts eating the poop. And my little man thinks he's going to get parvo and die. So he's panicking. So he's wrestling with the puppy, digging the poop out of his mouth. Your son? Yes. I thought it was you.

No. No. My son. So all I hear, I'm still sitting there, and I hear this blood curdling scream, and I'm like, what is going on? Yeah, man, Holly, you're really killing it up there. What is happening? So he comes in and she's like, Gino, you need to hurry up?

I'm like, what is happening? Leave me alone. You know, I'm scrolling through Twitter right now. Checking my emails. So finish up, I go out there, and he's covered in poop. He's got poop all up his arm. and his hands and he's bawling. I'm like, what happened?

He goes, Mom told me to go to the bathroom outside, and then Looper ate my poop, and he's going to get Parvo and die. And so I'm, like, laughing, because it's pretty funny, but I'm still kind of grossed out. You know, I don't do that. Deal with that stuff very well. And my wife starts filming, and my son gets even more pissed. And she's like, so you dug the poop out of his mouth?

He goes, no, I choked him in. She goes, I choked it. Excuse me. He said, I choked it out of him. So he grabbed the puppy's neck until the puppy couldn't breathe. And then he went, oh. And then he started digging the poop out of his mouth. That's a tough kid, dude.

Right? He's going to save his life. So, yeah. That's a hell of a. And we put him in the shower. Yeah, what's the clean? I was thinking a hose maybe, but no. Yeah, well, they're just threw them right in the shower.

And then later I go to the mow the backyard. Well, I had to go pick up my human, dog poop and human child poop out of the backyard before I mowed. And there's a dust pan sitting there that's kind of got some poop on it. So go inside. I'm like, Hudson, why is there a dustpan with poop on in the backyard? He was like, I was trying to poop into the dustpan. Of course.

It's responsible, yeah. He's got to clean him. I was going to clean it up. Has it been spoken of with him ever since then? We played the video. of him saying, I choked it out of him, the other day, and he heard that we were showing it to somebody, and he got mad.

Okay, I won't bring it up. That's a tough one to talk. That might be a perfect time to jump into our jock talk. So typically we end these shows with a little segment called E-9. We're going to switch it up for you guys. We're going to call this jock talk right here, all right? So what we're going to do is we're going to ask you some hypotheticals, okay? And you just tell us which of your players or any tour players or caddy is the most appropriate answer for the hypothetical situation.

You're with me? You'll get it. All right. You're more than welcome to use your players, but if you want to go to other players, you want to go to other cadets? If it's perfect for you guys, say your guy. If it's for someone else, then you're comfortable. You say that. Very political here.

Now, here we go. I think you just. I'm a little nervous. We just talked about a kid choking out a dog and get shit out of his mouth. I feel like the goal is going to be wrong, guys. Where are we going to, if we crossed any lines? All right, I'll throw out the first one you'll get. All right.

Whose player or any player most likely to hit a shitty shot and blame the club on the caddy? Bo hostler. Oh, yeah. Hey, Boe? Quick response there, by the way. I love both. I can't wait to bring that up to him. I'm freezing.

Nothing? I'm trying to think who's bad to their caddy. Bryson. Sure, Bryson. That could be the humidity, too. There can be a lot of things to play a role in that. All right, we got Bo and Bryson for that one. All right, that's good.

Cool. Caddy to most likely oversleep in early morning tea time, whether it be from fun the night before or just over sleep. I almost did this one time. Really? This is pretty good. Not from fun.

I was, so San Antonio, you know, I was staying with J.T. on site. And he got up for our morning tea time and left the room and didn't think to even, like, see if I was awake. I guess he just thought I heard him, which I didn't. So I wake up, like, 45 minutes before he's supposed to tee off. And I've got, I mean, I've got missed calls from him, whatever. call him. I'm like, hey, he's like, where are you? I'm like, I'm in bed. I was like, I thought you would wake me up when you left so I could like get in the shower and stuff. And I was like, I mean, I'll be down there in a second. Like, luckily I was on side at least.

I just like ran down the hill, no shower, just went straight down there. And I think shut out of part of that day. So maybe I should do that more. Yeah. Yeah. I'm, I don't know if I'm coming up with a good. I'm trying to think of somebody who drinks way too much. And it's, semi irresponsible shouldn't be hard the place to air it out right 99% of a few caddies nobody listens to this right zero you're talking to air uh can i can i can i come back to it all right all right i'll answer it i just i just don't have anybody yeah yeah yeah all right hold on to that we'll give you another one right now put it player most likely to utter the phrase i suck during a round joel that was an easy one that's uh probably five

times per round. Yeah. Those guys are always fun. He shoot 63 and have five eyes sucks during the round. Yeah, he's got a high bar. Yeah, he does. Very high bar. All right.

Player to most, most likely to not pick up the dinner bill when he takes his cat, when him and his cat, he go to dinner. Ooh. Somebody I know, I feel like split check with her catty somewhere. I don't know. I feel like most players are really good about that. I agree, but I should know if you've heard any stories. Yeah, no, I actually do.

I'm trying to think of who it was. I thought everyone was saying Matt Coocher immediately. Oh, that's going to be like that. That's fair. The layup. Yeah. We'll just go there. Perfect.

Matt Coocher. Okay. Player most likely to complain, always complain that they got the bad wave. I think every player. Every day. Every guy that misses the cut. Oh, we got screwed by the wave. The weather killed us.

I get it. Every player. I get it. That whole career of it. All right. You guys, that's what happened to you. Every time, always lived out. He kept asking for the late late.

Yeah, I was in the late wave. Can I fell asleep a little bit? All right, Fleanor, you're the singer. You're the lead singer of a band. Player most likely to be in your band. Maybe a backup singer. Well, I've seen some videos of Van Ruin playing the guitar before. Eric Van Rund.

Wow. He can shred on the guitar. So I can't play any instruments, so I need people that can play instruments. So I'll go with Eric Van Rune. And you're the face, clearly. So put him in the back somewhere. Yeah. With a mask.

Maybe get that Joe Vandal. Get Joe Vandal out. He could be your guy. All right, next one. Player most likely to carry rain gear when there's a 0% chance of rain. Not JT. I've checked that bag every day.

Lonto's bag was pretty happy. Lantau Griffin. I catty filled in for Lonto two weeks ago in New Orleans. And he has got the heaviest bag I've ever picked up. He came up to dinner. He's like, Lotto's bag is the heaviest thing. He walked down on Tuesday and he was like,

I just took a lot of stuff out of the bag. It should be fine. And I picked it. I was like, uh-huh. I took my dumbbells out for you. I don't know like to catch a set at the tour. What's the policy on that when you'll carry it if there's like 10% chance,

but beautiful. Well, I'll say this. If you decide not to carry it and it rains, that is bad. Tommy Armour always said, Tommy Armour the third. He's like,

hey, the umbrella's part of the bag. Yeah. It goes everywhere. Always in it. I'm like, it's Palm Springs. It's never

It's Dubai It hasn't rained here in 10 years Yeah I would say the bags Or the umbrella is more of a requirement Than the reindeer itself Whenever we need the umbrella We sometimes can't even find it I'm like we don't have one

What's the most unnecessary item In both of your players carry in their bag That they rarely if ever use Anything? I don't I mean I'm telling you I scour the bag We might have like some old snacks in there

Or something that I've been in there for a while But yeah It's as light as possible I will say it at players one day during the practice rounds, JT was like, check, see if we've got enough balls, you know, if not go in the locker room and get some. And I pulled 18 balls out of this bag. I was like, I think we're good. Yeah, I think we got enough. And I gave like six of them away.

I would say, I would say we've got the iron a lot. I would say we've got some random training aids that find their way into the bag and then stay there for a little too long that we don't really use. The mirror is a useful one, but we'll go a few months without using it. it. So I think there might be one in there now. I just start dumping those things. Pre-round. Oh, no.

Get a new one. Next one. Player or caddy, most likely to have an adult beverage in their water bottle. Interesting. I mean, John Daly? That was one popped in first. I mean, Joel would be a very good response for that, but it's never happened. But, yeah, I mean, I would say a lot of people would say Joel.

that would be a popular answer. You wouldn't even have it in his water bottle. Yeah, he just carried away. I can see maybe Harry Higgs having a rough Thursday and having a little something on Friday. That's a very good answer. Got to stay hydrated. Yeah, I like that. Harry Higgs is a popular answer.

Yeah. All right, here's one I'm interested in. Caddy, most likely to remind everyone how he should be playing on tour instead of caddy. Brett Walman. I was going to say Derek Smith, Denny McCarthy's caddy. Derek Smith, yeah. I knew there'd be some quicklins on the aisle. I mean, Derek's a really good player.

I should be out here. She's going to be leaning closer to the mic to make sure and pick it up. You want to spell it? Hey, and press it's going to be great. Oh, that is awesome. You know a cell phone number. Yeah, I knew there'd be something for that one. All right.

This one might be hard. I might get a no answer from both of you on this one, but current PGA tour player, card-carrying PJ Tour. player most likely to end up caddying on the PJ tour. Oh, boy. I need to remind you at this point, this is when no one's listening. This is the trust tree.

It's just us, guys. You can say no answer. I just wanted to throw it out there to see if you had an opinion. I mean, I probably do. You want to do rhyming more with it, to rhyme with it? What if? imagine I'm a player.

Who would I want to caddy for me? That's not really how this game works. I'm going to have to pass. We'll pass on that one. All right, I got one. Caddy most likely to talk shit to their player after a bad shot. I mean, it could be.

Derek Smith would be another good answer to that. He sounds like a tough nugget. Danny's catty. I don't necessarily... I think the better the player the caddy is, the more likely he is to criticize. size. I mean, when JT. gets a bad shot, I'm like, yeah, it's a really hard shot.

No one can hit that, dude. I couldn't have done that. No one can hit nine iron on the green from fair way. Well, it's funny because I, before during every single round, I play a full round. So this has became kind of a thing. So Max comes up to me all the time. He's like, Gina, would you shoot today? And I'm always like, I might make one bogey per tournament or something. I'm like, gosh, yeah, I have an okay day. I shot 67 out there today.

You know, finish his top 10. Yeah. I'm a machine. And then Griner comes up during the Zurich, and he's like, hey, what are you and I shooting the alternate shot today? And I'm like, hang on. And I went through every hole in every shot. And I'm like, we shall four under.

Good play. Yeah, great. It's like, man, that's a hell of a day. All right. Last one. Caddy, you would least like to share a room with for the week. And I'm pretty sure it might be you. What we've heard.

Yeah, probably a popular answer for that one, unfortunately. You're up there because you're snoring. well I was going to go with I stayed with Dewey before Kevin Kisner's guy Boy he can saw him and he You cannot beat him to sleep when he decided That's time to go to sleep

That man is asleep in two and a half minutes And he is snoring and it's just like You're in no man's land you're like What am I going to do now? It's over I don't know if I've ever had an experience Where I'm like I really disliked staying with that person No one will stay with you

That's probably true. In the tent. In the tent, there's only room in the tent for one. With the family. Yeah, the glamping. When I worked the Latin tour, Kent and I had to stay together every week because he had a sponsor that paid for everything. And so we would try to race to go to sleep at night because we both snore. But a trick we learned was if one person's asleep and snoring, if you pick the phone up and slam it down,

the other person will wake up, but they won't know why they woke up. And then you've got about five minutes there. You've got to hurry up and get to sleep. Well, guys, this has been awesome. We appreciate it very much. Are we not going to do the movie character? Oh, yeah. You want to do it?

You got one in my? I love that. I think I thought about this because I know you guys usually ask this. And I would go Chris Pratt during his Parks and Rec days when he was a little, you know, he had a little extra on it. A little more full figure. Not the Chris Pratt now. It's like RIP, but yeah. Funny Chris Pratt.

He had a beard. He was kind of chubby, funny. He probably can't sing like you though. I don't know. There's no chance. You got anything to you know? You got someone? Mr. Clean.

Perfect. Whoever that guy is. He works. All right. Well, like I said, this has been awesome. Plainer, maybe send us out with a little something real quick. Girl, you know, I've been on you forever. How many nights are we hung out together?

Same little crowd, little bar, little town around this old dance flow. Incredible. That is fantastic. Guys, this has been great. Thank you. Oh, man. Awesome, dude. That was so much fun.

I mean, I don't know if I've laughed that hard during an episode since Mike Commonware. There's so many good stories in the caddy world out there. It's kind of like the jickey jack stories. Like, they're living a totally different life. It's fun. It's a great job to have, especially if you've got a player that's playing well.

But, like, I mean, Gino, Joel plays great. You know, he's doing really well. He's a winner on tour now. I think Joel could win the next five events on tour, and Gino is still going to be staying in some of these raggedy dumps that he stays in. doing these, you know, caddy cribs and things like that. Caddy cribs is phenomenal.

So good. I mean, for the non-math people out there, let's just break this down. He says he doesn't like spending over $220 to $240 a week, okay? Most PJ tour players spend more than that at night at their hotel. So just imagine he's there for six days during the week. He's looking to spend less than $40 a night. I have no idea where you find these places, but they have to be just terrifying, as he described. There's a reason he had to travel with a frying pan and,

and cook his own meals for a while. You're trying to go on 40 bucks. That didn't go too far. But like I said, I think even if Joel starts winning majors, I don't think you're ever going to see Gino staying at the Ritz or doing any of that. That's just what he's like. And Fleener, Posting may need to look out. That boy's coming for a record deal here pretty soon.

Those pipes are the real deal. He can bring it, man. It is so fun. Like going out in Nashville with him, stopping these karaoke bars and stuff. I mean, he gets up there and people are like, oh, my God, who is that? Like, you're a caddy?

You should be singing somewhere. It's, it really is. It's really fun to see what I mean, bring it. Yeah, the man has got some pipes. And I thought jock talk at the end of that one, in replacement of E9, that was some of the best stuff ever. Talking about, all right, which player is most likely to do this, which caddy's most likely to do that.

I love that. We got some quick, unanimous answers, and then we had some thinkers, too. But that segment's great. Whenever we do this again, we'll definitely have to bring that back. Because you get some real inside scoop there. Yeah, well, you can. to be a jock this week. Charles Swab Challenge at Colonial, your old stomping grounds. You're going to be on the bag for Wyndham Clark. How nervous are you? Man, I'm not nervous. He should be nervous. I mean,

if he doesn't perform, I'm going to become a real caddy this week. If we play well, it's we, and if he plays bad, it's him. I'm going to take all the credit. I'm going to do everything I can, coach him up. I mean, and I will accept none of the bad stuff. If we don't play well, I'm going to put it all on Wyndham, just like a normal caddy does. But this will be fun. We've been talking about doing this for a while. known Wyndham since he was a little pup cult, you know, basically raised the kid since he came out of the womb, showed him out of play and out of golf. So this will be like a little father-son stroll around colonial for the week. And you'll be down there.

We'll have to grab a couple. And it's going to be a fun week, dude. Been looking forward to it for a while. If you don't get Wyndham Clark any penalty strokes, it'll be a miracle. I've been talking with his real caddy, John Ellis, about it for a while. He's like, oh, it's great that fans are back because normally the way Windham hits driver, you get to meet so many new people every day. he's like you'll probably run into some of your old friends you meet so many people listen if he hits in a bunker too you have to put some effort into the rake like pj tour players expect a perfect rake job

i know i'm used to sabotaging the group behind me with just a complete dog chick rate job on the minotours because i knew someone would hit in there right after me i have to be a little more on my peas and cues and queues this week and tighten up that bunker game just a just a smidge you might want to go over the do's and don'ts of cadding you know you got you got to know when you got to grab the him when you hand it off to other caddies stuff like that so just be on your toes don't embarrass us out there because we are a team okay i expect a good performance don't go out there and miss the cut because that's just that we can't have that hey dude if we miss the cut it ain't going to be for lack of trying with with the sleaze dude i'm going to get my guy's mind ready i know how this horse

operates he's a guy you got a pet a little bit you can't be giving him the spurs he likes to be told how good he is how great he looks wow you're so you're swinging so good all that so i know all the psychology traits for dub we'll go out there we're going to we're going to put on a show we're going to put on a show hopefully get paired with phil i think we then put us with phil get the two marquey names out there at the same time big time stuff all right well let's get to our picks for the week last week not our best in the major producer mark what we got yeah being that it was the pga championship you guys went with two big dogs slees with jordan speith with a t-30 colt had rory mackerel T-49, basically 60 to 25,000, closing the lead down to $311,998.

Nothing in it. No change there. Both disappointed in our boys this week. Jordan, I thought, was really going to make a move on Sunday after Saturday didn't quite happen. And Rory, after beating that place up, couldn't seem to play the par fives at all, which, I mean, he should eat. I think he made eight bogeys on the part five. Eight sixes. I mean, that's just, he bogeed half of them.

It's unbelievable. Hey, the thought of this week, Charles Schwab Challenge of Colonial. Very interested to see you have the honor. Are you going to back yourself? No. Hard short. Hard short on us. Hard short on us.

No disrespect to me. I'm very confident in my abilities. But Windham, you never know. You and Windham. By the way, Windham had a little happening on the course on Sunday with Ellis. We had a little talk about that, a little emotional flare-up, if you will. So we're going to have to tighten that up going in the week. But I'm going with Colin Morric.

from my pick this week. 14 to 1. Colonial, you know the place. I know it. Driver accuracy. Just actually off the T, iron plate, wedges. I mean, who better in the world with the irons in their hand than Colin Morikawa? He was 8th last week at Kiowa. Hit it incredible. Didn't put it so hot.

Seventh at Harbortown earlier this year, which is a golf course that's pretty comparable, I guess, if you're looking for one. And runner up last year to Daniel Berger. So I'm going to go with the ball striking machine, Colin Morakawa this week, 14 to 1. Yeah, lost in the playoff last year to Daniel. Burger by missing a short putt, but that putter was cold for him last week. I believe one round, he made 36 feet of putts. I mean, just tapping in, just tapping in on every hole.

And he finished eight, so pretty cool. I'm going to go with a great iron player as well, a man who's due to get his first victory. I mean, it's coming. The man shot 65 Sunday Kiwa was home before the television coverage was off. I was like, Abe, you might want to come back. You might be in a playoff if things get really weird out there. But Abraham answered, the guy is just due to hoist a trophy soon. might as well do it in his home state of Texas.

This place sets up perfectly for A Banser. Could not agree more. Great pick for a guy that's coming off the best round of the week at Kiowa. And if he does it, that Fletcha Azul is going to be popping because this thing is coming soon for him. So can't knock that pick at all. It's time for us to shape up. Start picking some winners here on the show.

I totally agree with you on that. But I'll tell you what, bring your rain boots, bring all your clothes you don't like, because it is, might need a two to get around close this way. It has not stopped raining for a while. I'm here right now. It's raining again. So we might lose, hey, you, look at it this way.

Walking in that soft grass, you might bulk those calves up a little bit. That's true. They could use a little more girth, a little more width, if I'm being honest. But of course, I get the one week on the bag, and it's dumping rain. I'm going to have to carry that freaking rain get around every single day. The bag's going to weigh 100 pounds. I carried it for a couple holes out there at Quail Hollow when I was. with you, Colt. It already weighed 100, and it was 80 and sunny and 0% chance of rain.

So the kids need to bulk up a little bit, but I'll be coming back in better shape than I'm going down there in. Well, best of luck to you. Like I said, don't embarrass us. I cannot promise anything in that regard. There's a very good chance I'll do something stupid. If you're out there following us around, come over and talk to me, please. Let's try to, I'll all name drop the show if you're afraid of it, since you're corporate guy. if I'm following you, that means you're playing well. That's all I can say. They ain't going to put me out there unless you're doing something special.

So I can't wait to see it. I'm going to be here. Don't miss your flight. Don't show up late. Just be on time. Do your job and get out. Just like this. We're going to get out.

This is the end of this episode. But next week, we got a big one. Our man, the X-Man, Zander Shafley, joins us on golf subpar. Everyone, have a great week. We'll see you next week.