Subpar - Ted Scott talks Scottie Scheffler's incredible year, the greatest shot he's witnessed as a caddie

Episode Date: September 17, 2024

On this week's episode of GOLF's Subpar, Colt Knost and Drew Stoltz are joined by longtime PGA Tour caddie Ted Scott for an exclusive interview. The man on the bag of 2024 Tour Championship winner Sco...ttie Scheffler talks what led to their dynamic pairing, the greatest shot he has witnessed as a looper and why Scottie became so emotional after winning gold at this year's Olympics. -- Thanks to Ralph Lauren, the Official Outfitter of GOLF's Subpar. The RLX Golf collection is available in select Ralph Lauren stores, exclusive private clubs, and resorts, and online at https://RalphLauren.com.

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Starting point is 00:01:01 Billy Horshiel, Davis Love the 3rd, Devin Bling, Doc Redmond, Jonathan Bird, Megagane, Nick Watney, Sean Foley, Smiley Kaufman, Anderson, Tom Watson, Trevor Werbelow, Troy Taylor the 3rd, Tyler Strafachi, and Zach Johnson. The RLX collection is available in select Ralph Lauren stores, exclusive private clubs and resorts, and online at Ralph Lauren.com. Boom. There you have it. Get you some. Yes, and once again, congrats to the women's Solheim Cup team, the United States. Three-point victory over Europe. It got tight there coming down the stretch.
Starting point is 00:01:32 Some quality golf being played. It was a lot of fun to watch out there at Robert Trent Jones. Also, shout out to Charlie Hall. I just, I love her. She got it done. I'm not encouraging smoking Sigs or anything like that, but she's just... There you are. She's just got this presence about her that I love. She went out there and took care of world number one
Starting point is 00:01:50 in the opening singles match, Nelly Quarterbeat her, like, six and four. Yeah, big wins. It was special, but it was a lot of fun to watch both those teams battling it out. First time since 2016, the U.S. has won the Solheim Cup. Yeah, broke the winless drought, and also, you're right about Charlie. If you're any, if you're a golfer and you want, people to like just kind of automatically like you just smoke that does it the rat was extremely likable daily people love it charlie people eating it up spence back in the day yeah too all he's
Starting point is 00:02:19 off that congratulations to you uh spence but that's pretty much it blow some clouds and people are like i like that it's like they're still good even when they do that respect i like it speaking of winless droughts pat and keziar at the pro court championship out in napa broke a six year winnest drought gets his third win on the PGA tour just absolutely ran away from the field. Got close for a second there with David Lipski on Sunday, but for the most part, Patten in full control. We've had him here on the pod, so another win for golf subpar. But congrats to him on breaking that winless drought. And honestly, turn his season around. This, the fall is when you can, if you had a rough season, this is where you can really move up. Make sure you get in that top 125 to keep your job. If you can get in the
Starting point is 00:03:00 51 to 60 area, getting those first two signature events, it's huge. This moves him up to 70, but also gets him into Maui, two-year exemption. This is huge. It's a breath of fresh air. He can finally take a load off. I mean, last year he finished up outside the top of 125. I had to lost his full status for the first time in a while, had to play out of the conditional category, and then boom, to go through that, come back, win now, two years, all the bells and whistles to go with it. This won't be the last one of those during the fall series. I know they tried to, I like that the schedule's on a calendar year again. It makes it way easier to kind of track and stuff, but they tried to add some juice for these fall series events
Starting point is 00:03:33 where guys are playing for their jobs and things like that. So there'll be more like feel-good stories coming out of this fall. Yeah, you'll see some guys that will revive their career or get their career going. Some young guys that maybe didn't get off to the best start on the PGA tour in their rookie year. They go out there and they win in the fall and all of a sudden their whole career trajectory changes. But congrats to Pat and Gassire. Awesome to see him win. And we had ourselves a week.
Starting point is 00:03:55 Nobody won. A bunch of ties up there. That was a tough one. Yeah, but we were up at Whistling Straits, played the Straits Golf Course, had a battle there at 7.20 a.m. first group off with our man, Mike. We had a blast. And also got to go over and play the baths, the par three course, which every golf resort in the world should have a part three course. Yeah, it's the ultimate like end of the day hang. I think you just play that thing until the lights go out. Some places have lights. And it's just,
Starting point is 00:04:24 it's quick, fast, easy gambling, having a few pops. It's awesome. That one was great, too, by the way. All right. Well, here's our recap of our couple of days up in Colt with Golf Culler at Whistling Straits. All right, what a day it was out at Whistling Straits. Special thanks to golf color. We had an amazing time. 18 holes over at the Straits course. Came over here to Black Wolf Run, played the Baths Part 3 course. We had ourselves a day, Slees. Had ourselves a day. By the way, 27, no, 28 holes. 28. 10 holes here at the bath, all day battled to a push. A little bit disappointing in that regard, but a couple champions like ourselves well deserved good plan this was my first time our first time
Starting point is 00:05:06 up here we'd been here for the rider cup but it didn't get to experience and didn't get to play it I was blown away by how good it was this morning granted we had a postcard day I mean the wind that the most blew eight at the end I mean it was nothing dead calm on the front nine that golf course is hard enough when it's like it was today if you get that thing blowing 20-ish plus I could see where that would be a monster and I'm personally glad we didn't have that today. Yeah, we basically played in a dome all day. First group out, cruised around at about 340, had ourselves time, made some birds, made some bugs, like you said, came to a push, but can't thank golf cooler enough. This is just an amazing property.
Starting point is 00:05:45 If you're doing a guy's trip up here, come stay at the American club, play a few days of golf. I mean, you will not regret it. It is a special place. I can't wait to come back on a guy's trip. I mean, we're sitting here right now over here at the bass course. There's this massive putting green where I feel like some cash could be exchanged. This is the biggest putting green I've ever seen in my life. This is a perfect, like, end of the day cap with the boys on the golf trip. You play 18 somewhere, come over here. You can play this thing until it gets dark. They got music out here the whole time. It's just a fun vibe. They got transfusion slushies. Good job, by the way. I use the full name. I use the full name. It's an incredible hang.
Starting point is 00:06:19 And yeah, but when you put these two courses at Black Wolf and the one, you know, whistling straights over there, it's a, it's a great spot for a guy's trip. Yeah, I can't wait to come back, But we are not finished yet, because we got a little spa day tomorrow. I cannot wait to get rubbed on by somebody. Couples massage, or are we going to have our own room? I think side by side holding hands, I think feels right, you know what I mean, with some cucumbers over the eyes. This is my full disclosure of moving my first spa day in in a good while.
Starting point is 00:06:49 I'm looking forward to it. Treat yourself. I pity the fool. I pity the young lady that has to get your mind right before football on Saturday. To dig into me. This is a great way to get Zen before I lose a trillion bets on Saturday. All right. Well, thanks again, golf caller. Everyone at Whistling Straits, Black Wolf Run. Yes. American Club. Y'all were amazing.
Starting point is 00:07:04 I can't wait to be back. So, ladies, I'm still a little shook from the missed birdie putt on the last. What about the title? I'm still shook. Should have closed out. Three and two, been done. Could have taken run in a low-aw press. But, you know, one of the great matches that was taking place at Whistling Strait. That will go down in history. It was decent golf, by the way. It was. I got to give you some credit. You're not a morning guy.
Starting point is 00:07:26 And you went out there and, I mean, you were two under par through three holes right out of the gate, just throwing everything at me. I was like, I'm going to get absolutely killed today. Yeah, I thought it was going to be a really good day. It was 300 under on the front and I was like that felt like actual real golf. And then back nine happened. I do what I normally do, blow a good thing when it's happening. Exactly. Did see my swing on video for the first time in a long time.
Starting point is 00:07:46 I was talking about this on the way home. I was like, what the fuck's happened to me? I think it was terrible. It was the worst-looking golf swing in the world. I was like, how do I even get it around with that right now? It honestly is one of those things like you see yourself in the mirror like, oh, shit, I got to make a change. You know, after like a long night or something, this is one of those moments for me. I'm like, all right.
Starting point is 00:08:04 It might be time. It may be time to start trying to do some things because that thing looks. I mean, I hit it all right, but it looks not like it should look. I think one of our wonderful listeners described it is that Sleeves looks like he's chopping wood. I'm going to give myself a little pass for the earliness, not being stretched out and all this stuff. But like, I hit it fine. I wasn't mad at that. But then when I saw it, I was like, is that?
Starting point is 00:08:24 Yeah. What Mark, dude, this has some sort of Hollywood voodoo bullshit to make my swing look back? But I got to fix it a little bit. I'm with you. My swing feels absolutely terrible. And Whistling Straits is not a place you want to really play. That place was fun. We got so lucky.
Starting point is 00:08:38 Really fun. I was surprised with it or like pleasantly surprised. I thought it might just be like a beat you up. Like, you know, average guy would have a hard time getting around. Don't get me wrong. We got it on the day where you want to get it. But it was fun. And for all those haters out there saying we played from like 6,500 yards wrong,
Starting point is 00:08:54 We played from 7,100 yards. We played the next to the, we didn't go all the way back to the PGA and Rider Cup T's, but we played from 7100 yards. It's either 7150, like where we played it, or it's 78 something. Yeah, and I'm not doing that.
Starting point is 00:09:05 It's a pretty big gap, and it's like 720. It's like, what are we really trying to do here? And half with doubles, they move on to 12. Here we go. Yeah. But can't thank golf Kohler enough. That was so much fun. The American Club Hotel is amazing.
Starting point is 00:09:19 Shocker, all the plumbing stuff is top of the line. The shower took me 13 minutes just to figure out. what was going on. It was coming out of me from every direction. I really like it. But we talk about golf trips all the time. I mean, they're at the American Club. They got a great bar. Easy trivia game. By the way, can we address that for a moment? Sure. Shocked the freaking world with a little trivia one. Like, hey, it's trivia night. You guys want to play? We're like, bet your ass we want to play. Aren't we the smartest guys in the world? Maybe, maybe not. But you know what? Scoreboard don't
Starting point is 00:09:48 lie. And it was a huge trivia game. I mean, there must have been huge. There were dozens. Shout out. Dozens of people in that bar. To our producer, Mark, who has a very weird slash great knowledge of Will Smith movies. Yeah, it will, if you're listening, restraining order, maybe in order. There was like a faceless picture of a movie that Will Smith was in. It was like, name that movie. And it was like, oh, Wild West, Independence.
Starting point is 00:10:11 Like, you just knew him in two. I was like, I'm never being hurt. What was the one? Wild West, Pursuit of Happiness, and I am legend. Yeah, I've only seen one of them. I haven't seen any. Mark, Homeboy, watches some movies. He likes Will Smith, but we're champions.
Starting point is 00:10:24 We got $4 gift card, no big deal. One and O in career trivia. Horse and plow. The horse and plow. Yeah, but seriously, I mean, great bar there, great food. Unless you need a fork. But great. How about the spot?
Starting point is 00:10:38 We got rubbed on a bit. That was nice, you know what I mean? But the golf courses are awesome. It's a perfect place for a guy's golf trip. It's really, really good spot for a guy's golf trip. With some of the world-class golf, like, black, I think they have, what our caddies told us, I believe, is they have two of the top six or seven
Starting point is 00:10:57 toughest public golf courses in the United States right there. One whistling straight, the other one, Black Wolf. We didn't get to play Black Wolf run, but we drove around. I mean, that, wow, that place is special. I thought it was kind of on the coast, but it's more like tucked through the trees, kind of your traditional style of golf look really, really good.
Starting point is 00:11:13 And there's a bunch of dudes golf trips going on up there while we were there. We should also give a little shout out to our caddies, Trevor and Nick, by the way, Nick, who gave, we're walking down the 11th hole, the par five. And he goes, got a little inside info for you. I was like, oh, really? What's that? He goes, take an Oregon state, heavy over Oregon.
Starting point is 00:11:33 I was like, what's the, that's the inside info. What's the inside part? Heavy. By the way, they didn't cover. They got dump trucks. Dump truck. Come on, Nick. Hey, shh.
Starting point is 00:11:42 Yeah. We got a little inside scoop for it. What's that? I like the beepers. So good. That's it. I was died. That's the end of the inside tip?
Starting point is 00:11:50 I was dying. Not so-and-so is hurt, no nothing. I like the Beaves. Shout out, Nick. They were great, by the way. We had a lot of fun up there. This episode this week is awesome. One of the greatest caddies to ever walk the planet.
Starting point is 00:12:04 He's currently in the midst of a little bit of a heater with his fellow name Scotty Schaeffler. We got Ted Scott joining us. This one does not disappoint. Here he is. Teddy Scott on Golf Subpar. Okay. Our guest this week has had himself a tidy little 2024. He was part of seven wins on tour, an Olympic gold medal, tour championship, got himself another master's flag.
Starting point is 00:12:28 The kid is running hot right now. We got Scottie Shepler's bag man, Teddy Scott in the house. Dad, how we doing, brother? Man, say that all again. That sounds good. That's a long intro. A lot of stuff to rattle up for y'all. Yeah, things are going okay, Teddy.
Starting point is 00:12:44 Congratulations, seriously, on a great year. I mean, this has been absolutely incredible. I want to go back to when Scotty Shepler, first called you because I know you're kind of in the process. You were with Bubba Watson for a very long time. You're getting into teaching and then all of a sudden your phone rings. And it's Scotty Schaeffler. Take us through that moment. Yeah, I actually was trying to retire for the third time from Caddian. And I got another phone call. So it just keeps coming back to me. And, you know, I got a preemptive phone call from another friend who said, hey, you're about to
Starting point is 00:13:17 receive a phone call from a really good player, but more importantly, he's a better person. And I really think you ought to consider it. And we were, we were Scotty's partner at the Zurich Classic, so I'd only been around him for that week. And I think we played one practice around with him at Harding Park. So, you know, I knew he was a really nice guy. But I didn't know how good of a player he was. I didn't, you know, really follow his junior career or college career, any of that. But I kind of took the word of my buddy that called me and said, hey, this dude's special, you know, I'm telling you, he's really good. So when he called me, you know, I had a few questions for him and I liked the way that he answered it.
Starting point is 00:13:53 And then I just told my family, I said, look, we're going to pray about it because I don't know if I'm supposed to be caddian. But apparently they had been calling agents trying to get me back on the road. So it was kind of a weird. My family was tired of me already. They're like, you've been home for two weeks. We need to find you a job, pro. Yeah, get out of here. How long did you think on it before you eventually said yes?
Starting point is 00:14:14 Two weeks. We prayed about it for a week. And then my family all said yes. And then I said, well, let's do one more week to make sure. And they were all on board. So it was like, all right, I guess we're doing this. And then it didn't take me long to realize what a great golfer he was. You know, the first week at RSM, I really was like, wow, this guy can play.
Starting point is 00:14:30 And he's really good. You know, it's always different when you're walking with somebody every day in the practice rounds and whatnot. Because, hey, guys, even I've shot a 65 in a tournament before. And the people that saw me that day might have thought I was good. But, you know, the next day it was a 78. This guy is just so consistent. I was like, this dude's really good every single day. So that was pretty cool to witness.
Starting point is 00:14:50 What is it for like the people at home, you watch Scottie Schaeffler and he contends every week. He obviously won eight times this year. But when people talk about him, it's nothing like crazy flashy, right? Like Roy McRoy, it's all about his driver. Cam Smith, his short game is just ridiculous. Scottie, it's just like, yeah, he's really good. But like what for you, what impresses you the most when you watch him play? one of my best friends who gave me this hat servant he's a pastor and i coach him in golf and he told me
Starting point is 00:15:19 he's really good like mentally and he said ted the best club i have ain't even in my bag and i said well what is it he says it's my mind and that's scottie's best club i mean the guy just thinks through things really well he handles pressure really well he's super smart very golf smart uh super disciplined and i think that all starts in your head you know and you and you can't measure that So it's hard to put something tangible like that, you know, on paper that you can't see. So I think that's his best quality. And then, you know, he's highly skilled at every aspect of the game as well. And I guess because he doesn't do running around doing fist pumps on the green, he doesn't seem flashy.
Starting point is 00:15:57 But, man, hitting it down the middle and on the green on every hole is pretty flashy if you ask me. You don't have to clean a very big area of that golf club very often. No. Sometimes I get mad at him because he doesn't hit it close enough to the sprinkler heads that I'm wanting to walk it off. I was like, buddy, it's sprinkler heads over there. What are you doing this hole? You know, but he's pretty consistent at doing his job. You could probably hit it there if you told him where it was off the tee.
Starting point is 00:16:21 You get closer than anybody else. I can tell you that. Ted, I want to go back three years ago. Scottie was the controversial pick, if you will, for the Ryder Cup at Whistling Straits. Goes out there in the singles, plays. Then World Number One, John Rom. Wins that match. Comes out the next season, and then boom.
Starting point is 00:16:37 It's the Scotty Shuffer that we see right now. He's winning everything. How important was that match to his psyche? Yeah, I wasn't caddying for him, but obviously I think the pressure of a Rider Cup is probably the most pressure that I felt, you know, as a caddy even just because I think it's, you're trying to win for everybody else, you know. And when it gets close, you're like, man, this is really important. And you're not playing for money. So I think there's a tremendous amount of pressure. And any time you can step up to that pressure, especially being a rookie on the team, a rookie on tour, and do what he's.
Starting point is 00:17:09 he did. I can't imagine that it would do anything but boost your confidence. You know, but that was one of the things he told me on the phone call. And like I said, it goes back to his mind. He said, I love the big moments. And, you know, you have to love the big moments. If you don't, then don't get in the big moment, you know, if you don't like it, because it's going to feel, you're going to feel the stress and you have to enjoy that. Yeah, I'll say this. Like, I mean, he never looks stress. No matter. I think the most stressed I've ever seen him is when he was trying to figure out how big a lead is what he had at Augusta the first time y'all won there on the 18th green.
Starting point is 00:17:39 Yeah. Well, that was my fault. I totally distracted him. I said, because I'd heard another catty told me one time. He said, we had like a four-shot lead at Augusta. So I told my pro, you go ahead and walk and just take it all in. And I was like, that's really cool, man. He let his pro go by himself and walk. And I said, I'm going to do that if I ever get that opportunity. And sure we get up there. And I'm like, hey, man, take it all in, buddy. This is pretty sick. So he's walking and kind of looking. And it's neat. And then we both stood on the front of the green while Cam was putting. And I was like, this is pretty. special man and next thing you know he's sword fighting and i whoa hey let's not take it all in yet let's take this put into the hole and then we'll take it in i like that let's take it all in sword fight and soak up the moment you know you don't know when you're going to get it again although he did do you think because of the thing you said earlier like he's not fist bump and he's not crazy he's not flashy but he's the best and he's dominantly the best right now do you think we'd take him or the golf media golf world i guess takes him for granted because he doesn't have that that flash, that spark that, you know, that draws attention to himself?
Starting point is 00:18:45 Yeah, you know, I think sometimes people that are fiery or wild outwardly, you know, they attract more attention. It's entertainment, right? And I think the true golf enthusiasts can appreciate how good Scottie is. And oftentimes when we play with other players who are great players, they make little comments like, wow, this dude is so good, you know, because they see it and they appreciate how hard he's worked to develop the skills that he has and how, you know, he chips in on 10 times on me every year by March and, you know, he hits the ball close from 200 yards, 100 yards, 50 yards,
Starting point is 00:19:20 250. It's like, dude, what's this guy not do? So I think that as a golf enthusiast, you can really appreciate it, but sometimes maybe from an entertainment standpoint, the media probably does miss out on it. Can you share with us that 10 chip in, 10 holeout bet? And are you thinking about changing the line possibly for next year? Because I think this year was over in like May. Yeah, yeah, he beat me at the player championship the last two years. So, so yeah. Yeah, it's just something that I knew right away that he was super competitive. It didn't take me long to just see the fire that burns inside of him.
Starting point is 00:19:55 And so as a caddy, I just try to think of ways to bring that out in him. And sometimes the distraction of competing for something else can distract them from the pressure of, you know, the big moment. And so I kind of thought early on, like, what's a fun game I could come? come up with that this dude will be all in on. And it would, you know, if he has a hard chip, he's not thinking about, oh, I hope I can make a par. He's thinking about taking my money. And so that's all the purpose of it behind it was just to give him something. It's like, hey, you know, you got eight. You know, this is a good opportunity here. And, and he loved it. You know, he was all over it. And of course, when he chipped in, not this year, but the previous
Starting point is 00:20:32 year on hole two to beat me, he literally said, where's my money? But that was the second time he chipped in that day. And I was like, I wasn't planning when you. chipping in twice today. I don't have your money, sir. That's right. I think you should talk to his financial advisor, Frank, and maybe up that to 20 next year. Because, I mean, it's just getting ridiculous. Maybe give yourself a chance. That's right. Yeah, literally. It's pretty fun. What event was it over by? Do you remember the 10th one this year? How long did it take? I think it was the players, both the last two years, if I'm not mistaken. I think that
Starting point is 00:21:03 March. Yeah, it's an early one. And then when he hold out on Sunday on four, that was the beginning of the next round. So we do another 10. Oh, it goes another round. He loses motivation. He loses motivation after the first round. He really does. Probably because I don't pay him, so I do pay, but I'm slow to pay. I'm like, you know, I know I made this bet, but that's a lot of cash to give out, you know? I've got kids, man. Where would you rank that final round 64 at the players when he came from behind? I mean, he chased down Wyndham Clark and Zander Shafley. Like, I mean, the leaderboard was loaded. He goes out there and shoots 64 on that Sunday. Where would you rank that round as far as best rounds you've
Starting point is 00:21:38 seen in play? The best round I've ever seen in play was on Saturday. I mean, the guy had about a 5% chance of moving his neck and was hitting it, you know, way shorter, hitting one extra club into every green and still playing Scotty Schepler golf. And that was impressive. And he could start moving a little better on Sunday. So that was obviously amazing. But I will say that, you know, it's certainly not to discount anything, but I think you guys have seen it enough in golf. There's a freedom that comes from being behind. I think the round he played on Sunday this year, at the tour championship was way, way more impressive. You know, I told him after he finished that putt off on 18,
Starting point is 00:22:14 I said, look, you know, people say sleeping on the lead is a hard thing. You slept on the lead for about eight months, you know, so it's a tough round of golf, especially with the previous two years leading. So I think being ahead is way more difficult. Yeah, I just think we get spoiled. I mean, obviously growing up in the Tiger era where he won every single week, but to see Scottie go out there, I mean, the eight wins are impressive,
Starting point is 00:22:36 but I think it was 17 top tens and 20 events, like as a caddy. I mean, it's just, like, you don't even have to set an alarm on the weekend, dude. You get to sleep till noon every day. Yeah, that's a fact. Yeah, it's actually a little bit frustrating whenever he hits it in the rough. I was like, what is this, dude? I mean, he's like, is this going to be a flyer or not flyer? I'm like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:22:57 Quit hitting it over here. I'm not used to this, you know, so it's frustrating. At the U.S. Open on the weekend. Yeah, exactly. You had to be like really pissed at the U.S. Open when you had to get up so early on. the weekend. I did, man. That was bull crap. Yeah. I didn't even know they teed off before noon on the weekend. Do they even tee off this early? Yeah. No, it's been fun. It's been a lot, you know, a lot of fun to watch someone at the peak, you know, I was fortunate to watch Bubba at his best.
Starting point is 00:23:23 He got the second in the world and to stand there in front of the best player in the world and watch him hit every shot from a front row's perspective is very special. It's quite a, quite a feat that he's accomplishing, and it's great to just stand there and watch him do it. I'm very thankful to be a part of it. Yeah, he makes it look easy. It's honestly frustrating watching. It makes the game look so simple. Go back to that tour championship for just a second, Ted.
Starting point is 00:23:43 You talk about, dude, sleeping on a lead's tough, you did it for eight months. When you guys won that thing at the end, do you think it was more joy or was it more relief? Because virtually everyone expects Scotty, especially with the lead in that system, to win that thing. But it's not foregone conclusion, like you mentioned last two years. Yeah, I mean, we lost the lead at the first hole, you know? You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:24:04 We were tied with Zander after. a whole one. So I think it was relief. You know, we won a lot. And I think that it's hard for a really great athlete to make something important that everybody else makes important. They're self-driven. To be that good, you have to be very self-motivated and self-driven. And Scotty is certainly that. And he, you know, I've never heard him talk about money. I've never seen him bring his master's jacket somewhere at a dinner or show it to somebody or a trophy. You know, he's just that guy that has a burning desire to compete at anything. And I think with all the talk about the FedEx company, he's got to win, and he's supposed to win, it's almost hard for him to get motivated because it's like, you know,
Starting point is 00:24:44 you almost feel like, man, I live my own life. I do this for me, not for y'all. So it's a weird dynamic. I mean, it's by far the most stressed I've ever felt as a caddy. And it doesn't change either one of our lives, but it's like, you just feel like, man, I just want to get this monkey off his back. So I felt a lot of relief. And I assume that he did too. I know he was exhausted for the last few months, you know, being in Europe for three and a half weeks. And then the FedEx Cup, you know, run after about a six-day trip home. That was a lot. So, yeah, I would say relief.
Starting point is 00:25:14 Yeah, for sure. I mean, especially with having the lead the two years before, not getting it done. Then he goes in there and he just handles his business and he ran away from the field. It was very impressive. I want to go to the Olympics because that was a different side, I think, of Scotty Schaeffler, that a lot of people had never seen before. Go out there, I think it was, once again, a final round, 64 on a really tough golf. off course, wins the gold medal, y'all win the gold medal,
Starting point is 00:25:36 and then got a lot of attention because during the closing ceremony, during the medal presentation when they started playing the national anthem, I mean, he broke down into tears. Yeah, I would find it hard to believe you'd find a player that loves America more than Scotty, maybe as much, but he loves the USA. He's all team red, white and blue, and loves to compete in the Ryder Cup, the President's Cup, winning a medal for his country. I mean, that was very special for him.
Starting point is 00:26:02 And my favorite part of that day was, you know, we get to 15 and he's got tough little pin, you know, overwater. The safe thing to do is to fly it to the pin and put back to it. And not Scotty Schaeffler. He bounces it in there afoot because he's so good at distance control, taps that in. Now we get to 16 and it's overwater. If you go with the pin, you can go left and have a safety measure. And I'm looking at the wind and it's like, we need a little bit of help, you know, with our nine iron.
Starting point is 00:26:29 And I'm kind of going, man, the wind's helping. It's not. It's helping it's not. It's kind of teetering back and forth. And so I said, hey, right at that security guard, 15 feet left the pin. He goes, okay. And he hits it and it lands a foot from the pin. And he walks over with this crazy psycho look on his face.
Starting point is 00:26:45 And he goes, you didn't really think I was going to take it at the security guard, did you? And I said, well, a caddy can dream. So that's what I knew he was in it. It was like, he's hunting down the pins, man. When did you think in that in that final round that you guys had a legitimate chance to win the goal? because I mean, starting the day, the narrative was like, oh, Scotty, you know, looks like he could get on the podium. But gold seemed like a big time stretch. Yeah, it was like, you know, all of a sudden he started making birdies at the end and they started faltering.
Starting point is 00:27:13 And I was like, oh, my gosh, we're in this thing for the gold potentially. So it turned quickly when he probably when he knocked it stiff on 15. And then when he had that put on 16, I was like, man, we really have a chance now. And he made that one. And then when the put went on 17, I was like, man, he's going to be hard to beat because those closing holes are difficult. And like I said, you know, golf's always harder with the lead. You know, it's just like you watch the NFL and the team that's up by throwing the ball for the first three quarters. They start running the ball once they get the lead and then it gets difficult.
Starting point is 00:27:42 You know, it's hard to free it up and let it go sometimes. So, you know, those closing holes at Golf National is very difficult. So we thought we had a good chance after that. That was cool to watch. That was probably the most animated I've ever seen in a golf course. You could tell what it meant. Important question for you, though, Ted. Should caddies also receive a medal?
Starting point is 00:28:00 Yes. Great question. We've had this debate before. I want to hear what you have to say. Yeah, you know, it's a strange question, but I would say I would feel uncomfortable if they gave me a medal. You know, I kind of feel like, yeah, we're a part of the team. But I, me personally, I was thinking, like, if they said, hey, you and Scotty go stand
Starting point is 00:28:18 up here together and get medals, I would feel really strange, you know, because I definitely think we can help. And Scotty said some really sweet words to me. That was probably my 25 years of caddy and the best job I've ever done at kind of flipping my guy's thought process that week on Friday. And he shared that with me in a really loving way. And so that meant a lot to me. But even that little bit that helped, I just don't see that I help enough to receive a medal. That's just me personally.
Starting point is 00:28:47 And some people say, that's bull crap. But, you know, at the end of the day, I mean, this guy is just so good at golf. And I almost feel like, hey, if grandma could give him a pep dog, he's going to win tournament. So, you know, if she could carry clubs and give him a pep talk, he could have her do it. He's that good. Yep, he is special, and that was a special week. But I think whether you're a golf fan or not, you always tune into the Masters. And you've been a part of four wins now around Augusta National.
Starting point is 00:29:12 By the way, trivia question, do you know where you rank on the list as far as caddies with the most wins? I think there's two people that have five, and I'm tied with Steve Williams. You are correct. Wow. Student of the game. Willie Pappy Stokes and Willie Peterson. So maybe you start going by Willie Scott, you'll take it over and get that next one. Sign me up, coach.
Starting point is 00:29:31 Time me up. What for those, I mean, you arrive, it's one of the most special weeks of the year on the most iconic golf course in the world. What's it like for you as a caddy leading into Masters Week and getting ready to go? Man, you know, as a kid, I watched it with my dad. I love it, you know, like everybody else, it's one of the toughest tickets in sports to get. So there's a lot of exclusivity to even go be able to go watch it. So to be inside the ropes on the grounds. it's special just to be there and I get pumped up you know and I want to work extra hard that
Starting point is 00:30:02 week I try to rest well the week before and really get my mind prepared and it helps when you have a player like Scotty and a player like Bubba who love creativity both of them are very creative players and that place requires tremendous creativity and it also requires very accurate iron play you know people talk about putting but you can't put well at Augusta if you don't hit it on the right area and so you really have to get dialed on that and both of those guys were good at it. So for me, it's an exciting week because I know we have a chance, you know, just showing up, you're like, hey, this is, this is a week my guy could win this tournament. And if you show up with somebody that's not real creative with short
Starting point is 00:30:40 game and doesn't have great iron play, it's like, yeah, it's fun to be here, but they're probably not going to have a good chance at competing, you know, unless they can do those two things. So it's super exciting. Yeah. And speaking of creativity, can we go back to 2012? You're on the bag for Bubba Watson. We got the playoff with Louis. 10th hole. Everyone knows the shot. It's one of the most remarkable shots I've seen. Talk me through what that conversation was like when you all got down there and Bubba was like, hey, I think I can sling gap wedge, I believe it was or whatever, you know, and hook it 30 yards. Yeah, I remember when I first started working for Bubba, my dad came, my dad lives near New Orleans and Bubba played in the New Orleans tournament. And Bubba said, hey, have your dad just come out in the fairway and walk with us. And so my dad just said to Bubba randomly, he's like, Ted tells me you can hook the ball really far, you know, like hit a big old hook. And so Bubba said, yeah, you want to see one? He goes, sure.
Starting point is 00:31:29 So he literally dropped a ball in the middle of the fairway with a pitching wedge and hit like a 50-yard hook on command right in the middle of the green. And my dad, eyes were just big because he's a big fan of the game. And he was like, that was incredible. I've never seen anything like that. So, you know, for Bubba, that's just a normal way to playing golf. I mean, he would, you know, when the pin was on the right on 14 in the middle of the fairway, we would hit huge duck hooks into that green, landed in the middle of green,
Starting point is 00:31:52 and then spin it down towards the pin. So it's kind of the way that he plays golf. So when we get over there, I know it's not to discount the shot, but it wasn't as impressive to me as it is to everybody else because they're not used to seeing that. I was so used to seeing that. The only question I had was what club is going to be the right club? That was it. That was the only decision we had to make.
Starting point is 00:32:11 The ball was above his feet. The lie was good. There was a huge opening. And you have a guy that loves to hook the ball from the middle of the fairway. So it's like, perfect. This is not a bad thing, you know. So it was just a matter. The only conversation was what club do I think?
Starting point is 00:32:23 and he hits a pretty straight gap wedge 135, and the pin was 165. So we're like, okay, let's just take the club that, you know, would go to the front of the green, and your hook should get us beyond that and probably not over, and they end up working out really well. I know it doesn't impress you that much, but to do it in that moment.
Starting point is 00:32:41 I mean, it's one thing to do it on a Tuesday, but in a playoff to win the Masters, I mean, that's impressive. Yeah, it's definitely the moment. And I've always equated the story to Tiger Woods when he made the eight-foot put against Bob May, to get in the playoff at Valhalla. You know, I could teach my daughter who doesn't play golf in minutes,
Starting point is 00:33:00 and she could probably make that putt in one out of ten tries. So it's like, what made that putt so special was, how does Tiger keep doing this when it matters? So what made that so special to me was, wow, you did it when it matters. And yes, I can't hook the ball that much. Most people can't. But when you caddy for somebody for that long and you see him hit that shot, literally from the middle of the fairway half the time,
Starting point is 00:33:21 a perfect example, Colt, because you live in Phoenix, If you go to the TPC out there and you get to hole four, part three, when that pins in the back right, nobody, nobody can access that pin because the greens get firm. Bubba will literally take a nine iron and hit a 40-yard hook every year and landed on the front third of that green and one hop, bounce it, spin it back there inside of 10 feet every year. And it's like, I'm thinking one time he's going to overhook it in the bunker or leave it out. And every year he would get it back there tight. And I'm just going, how? How does he do this? And it's like, that's what he does.
Starting point is 00:33:52 So for me, it was a normal golf shot that Bubba plays, but the special part of it was obviously the situation. I only got to play with Bubba, I think, twice, and it was both practice rounds and watching him curve the golf ball. I mean, it's so hard to explain because it's not little five, six yard draws or phase. I mean, it's 20, 30 yards that he moves it when you don't really even have to all the time. Yeah, one of my favorite stories that we're playing in the featured group at Riviera and we're on whole one. And the wind's kind of neutral that day. And Dustin gets up first. And he hits a five wood to about 15 yards to the end of the fairway.
Starting point is 00:34:25 And now they announced Bubba and he tees up driver. And Dustin looks at me and goes, what is he doing? And I said, just wait. And he started it in the middle of hole two and sliced it back about four yards in front of Dustin's five wood. And Dustin went, yeah, okay. And I'm like, that's how he plays golf, man. Like he just turns this club into whatever club he wants, you know? So yeah, it's just how he plays.
Starting point is 00:34:45 Pretty wild. It's so fun to watch. It's like a throwback, but on steroids. Back when they used to work the ball more and Bubba's doing it, you know, throughout the modern era. What's it like to caddy for that, though? Especially when you first start. Like, he has, you got a distance.
Starting point is 00:34:59 There's probably three different clubs he could hit, depending on what type of shot shape he wants. That's got to be brutal as a caddy when he's like, what club you like? Brutal. It's impossible. The first three years, Bubba wasn't a great communicator. He got better over the years. But in the first three years, he would say to me, you know,
Starting point is 00:35:15 what club do you like? and I would say, what kind of shot are you going to hit? And he would reply, I don't know. And I was thinking, well, if anybody needs to know what kind of shot he's going to hit, it's me. Because exactly what you just said. It could be a nine iron. It could be a five iron. I don't know what you're going to do here.
Starting point is 00:35:29 But, you know, what I started to learn was his tendencies based on the way the whole look. So I knew like, okay, this is a back right pin. He's probably going to want to skip it back there. So why don't we hit a low duck hook, nine iron and skip it back there? Oh, I like that. You know, so as a caddy, I guess the thing about caddian is this. is that they don't need to ask me, Colt, you don't need to ask me if it's an eight iron when it's one, it's like, you know what I mean? Like, you know what to do, bro. But when you're nervous,
Starting point is 00:35:56 you kind of want somebody, is it an eight iron? Yeah, of course it's an eight iron. Oh yeah, yeah, I know it's an eight iron. I see right ed. You see right end? Yeah, of course it's right in. They need that backup sometimes because when you're nervous, you got self-doubt, stress, whatever. So the thing for Bubba was like, I had to start learning how does he like like to hit these shots and just kind of use his language. I would say stuff like, I like a dink cut driver. Why? Because that's what he says. So I'd put his own words back into his brain. And that way he's like, oh, yeah, I like that. You know, because I knew it was a dink cut driver. I knew that's what he wanted to hit, just from observing it so much. So then I say it the way he
Starting point is 00:36:30 says it, and then he loved it. So that was how I tried to caddy for him. And the latter years, he got better at communicating. So it was like, you know, I could hit this or could hit that. It's like, okay, that's much easier. But yeah, the beginning was very tough. And that's probably why it took him four years to win. It wasn't talent. It was just learning to control his mind and relax and believe in himself. Yeah, that's awesome to hear.
Starting point is 00:36:50 I know all about the dink driver, by the way, but you're probably the only caddy in professional golf to say to his player multiple times during a tournament, give me a duck hook here. Yeah, that's a fact. That's right. From the fairway. Yeah, just be a duck hook nine here. I mean, dude.
Starting point is 00:37:06 Really? Well, I feel like we wouldn't be doing our job if we didn't ask about Valhalla this year because it was obviously wild, tons of attention with everything that happened. And I mean, it was a very sad thing that happened. But just take us through like when you found out what was going on with Scotty, you know, getting arrested and all that because I'm sure you were already at the golf course. No, we were staying together one mile from the course in a neighborhood. They had rented a house. And the interesting thing was is that Scotty, he leaves early because he's a routine guy. He's got to do all his things before.
Starting point is 00:37:36 workout, stretch, get food, do all the stuff he's got to do. Me, I just got to get there like two hours early. He's there three hours early. So I wasn't going to ride with him because it was an early tea time. And so when I woke up probably 30 minutes after he had left, I got a text from one of my friends and said, sorry, bud. And I thought, okay, he knows that I'm going to visit my daughter tomorrow and I'm not going to be able to caddy.
Starting point is 00:38:00 And I thought, it's just a graduation. It's no big deal. So I put that on the text. And he goes, no, Scotty. and I said, Scotty, what? And he said, Scotty got arrested. And I thought, right, you know, like, what are you talking about? And then I saw the text.
Starting point is 00:38:13 The other text I had on my phone was there's been an accident at the beginning of the golf course, you know, be prepared for traffic. And I thought, oh, my gosh, Scotty killed somebody like in his car. That was my first thought was trying to put those two together. He accidentally hit somebody. Oh, my gosh, this is terrible. So then I quickly got on, you know, my phone and started trying to research and then found out Scotty Sheppler got arrested and I'm like for what you know and it wasn't related to the accident so yeah it was it was a very stressful morning I started calling you know his family his friends
Starting point is 00:38:46 trying to figure out what to do how to help just crazy you know how the whole thing went down and at the end of the day you know we we look back and we see what a great character Scotty is and goes back to that original statement that my friend made when he called me and said hey you're about to receive a phone call from a player who's a better person than he is a golfer and I also go back to the statement that his dad made when he became world number one at the match play of Dell and they called it on TV and he said, I'm more proud of you as a man than I am as you as a golfer. So, you know him well. You know what kind of guy is, just a great human. And so it's really cool to see his character shine above that situation. And the truth get
Starting point is 00:39:25 revealed and know that he even had such a good hardest to not sue the city, you know, for what happened, which is very easy to do in that situation to be emotional because he knew it would affect the citizens of Louisville. So just a great guy. And, you know, he definitely shine bright in the end. Yeah, I'll tell you what, is presser at the end of that round after he played unbelievable, by the way, it was like, one, like, that was a crash course and here's how you handle it.
Starting point is 00:39:49 It was one of the best things I've seen in a situation that you don't prep for that one. You don't really know the kind of stock answers there, but he handled that beautifully. When you did find out this. You also got to give credit, too, though, to Teddy, Brad Payne, Randy Smith, Blake for, like, how they helped him handle that. because, I mean, like you said, you don't prepare for that stuff. Yeah, that's not something on the blueprint. Like, here's what we do just in case we get arrested before.
Starting point is 00:40:11 Yeah, that's right. Maybe some players are thinking that, but definitely not Scott Schaeffler. When did you think when you found out all this was real? Oh, my God, not only is this real, but they're actually taking him down and they're going to book him. Did you think that's it, the tournament's over? There's no chance we're playing golf today. Of course, of course, you know. And then I heard he's stretching in jail.
Starting point is 00:40:30 I was like, this guy is nuts. What a psycho. But that just goes to show how competitive. he is. And one of my favorite stories about him being competitive is him and Sam Burns were in the pool playing pool volleyball at his house during the Byron Nelson one year. And we made these rules up because it was two on two and we needed to kind of make the pool smaller. So we kind of had, this is out, you know, but there's no, like line in the pool. And Sam hit a lob over Scotty and I's head. And the ball ended up going kind of in that gray area. And Scottie's like, it's out. Sam's like, no, it's in. And they start arguing. And then they start throwing the ball at each other and then diving on each other. And I'm like, you know, somebody's about to get hurt over pool volleyball and literally it was not it was not like hi it was like i'm gonna kill you you know their best friends of breaking them up going these guys are crazy and uh you know that's when i realized how competitive he is and and to see him warming up in jail or hearing about that i was like this guy literally is ready to come play i mean that's amazing
Starting point is 00:41:24 i can't even fathen that that process you know in my head i would have been broken you know just from the whole scenario so yeah it was it was nuts i never thought that was going to happen I think most people would be broken. And he comes out and Bertie's the first tall. It's like, really? Dude. Stones it. Stones it on his third.
Starting point is 00:41:40 Like, well, same stuff. Yeah. That is, that is awesome. Should we get to the E9? Yeah, let's do get to E9. Do you ever look back, given the way these last few years have gone and regret not getting into teaching? Could have been lucrative, you know? Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 00:41:56 Well, have you seen some of my students? I once helped a guy go from a 10 to a 15. So that was a whole. Yeah, that's probably my best. That's probably my best work other than, you know, caddian. So, yeah, it's probably... You're a real teacher. You're a real teacher.
Starting point is 00:42:09 We just need more lessons. Just keep coming back. I think Ted Eduardo is a much better teacher than Teddy. Oh, yeah. No doubt. Ted Wardo. I need to bring Ted Wardo back. Yes, you do, because I was looking back at some of those videos last night.
Starting point is 00:42:21 The one with Austin Johnson in Mexico. Golly. That is all time. Yeah. He's hilarious. He is. We had so much fun doing that because they were telling us, like, don't leave the hotel. So that's when Ted Wardow started because we were just trying to figure out, like, what can we do to entertain ourselves?
Starting point is 00:42:38 So that week, we were making Ted Wardo videos. We were having a good time. The Brooks Cupka one was pretty good, too, where he has his shirt off. You see that one? Well, I saw the one where Bubba was, you said we learned from Brooks Kebka that you can lift heavy weights and still play good golf. And there's Bubba. That's in the background. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:54 55s, doing curls and 55s of the shirt off. So that was a funny one. Please bring those back. Please. I like it. I just need. Scotty won't participate. He don't want to take his shirt off.
Starting point is 00:43:04 I'm like, what are you doing, man? Let's go. Yeah, go. Come on number one. What are they going to make funny? I'd be like, so what? I'm best player in the world. You want to win the PIP?
Starting point is 00:43:14 Scottie, get involved with Ted Ward. That's a good point. That's it. Let's go. I'll bring the mustache back. That thing is terrible. That's the last mountain to summit. All right.
Starting point is 00:43:23 PIP. Sometimes you got to show some skin. You got a pretty good gig going. We're going to start this off with. If you could just be anyone for one day, just walk in their shoes for one day at any point. In the history of time, who would it be? Man, the history of time.
Starting point is 00:43:40 Gosh, that is a great question. The history of time. I would say one of the disciples of Jesus, maybe Peter who walked on water. I had a feeling it was going to be something along those lines. Okay. That'd be good. Scotty ever hits it in the drink.
Starting point is 00:43:55 Yeah, and just go out there and get it. Walk on water. That's right. There's a great golf joke about that. We probably don't have time for that. You are the king of jokes, by the way. What's your latest dad joke? I got a lot of bad dad jokes, so I don't know.
Starting point is 00:44:08 My kids get, they get tired of it, so I don't know. Do you watch those two guys? Two guys on the dock? Do you watch the two guys on the dock in Tahoe that just do the dad jokes? They're awesome. They're so good. They're so good. I like when the athletes do it, when they're trying not to laugh, that makes me laugh even more.
Starting point is 00:44:25 Yeah, they grab a few of them for that Tahoe event and do it. It's awesome. They're good. They'll give you endless ammo, though, to him. embarrass your kids if you need it. He's got to get tired of it. That was one of the first questions I asked him, by the way, when he asked me to catty for him, I said, how do you like dad jokes?
Starting point is 00:44:40 So, you know. And what was his answer? You got to like him. If you don't like it, he said, I can tolerate him. I said, okay, tolerance is good. That's good. Tolerates a good word. He wasn't a dad then.
Starting point is 00:44:48 I mean, just pretty soon he'd be telling him himself. By the way, think if he would have said, no. You'd have been out immediately. Oh, that's it. Easily, I've been done. It was a test. Trust me, there's a test if I want to come work with this guy. You got to be able to listen to my garbage.
Starting point is 00:45:01 Oh, man. It's going to loop for you, but I'm out. All right. Teddy, a couple world titles that you've got. Which one means more? Your Olympic Golden Golf this year or your 1994 World Fuseball Championship. I'm assuming this is real. The Internet says it.
Starting point is 00:45:18 Please let it be real. Yeah, you want to take you over to my foosball table right now and show you some action. You got a setup right there? You're still in the game? Yeah, it's right over there, man. I would say obviously helping someone win a gold medal would be way more significant than my world championship in Fusball. But at the time, I was the king of the world when I won that in 1994, my partner, Terry Rue. Terry Rue, I didn't know they had that.
Starting point is 00:45:45 How do you get into the world championship? You got to qualify, win a bunch of stuff, hustle a bunch of people at bars? What do you got to do? Yeah, so there's four divisions in Fuzball. Now there's three. And it's basically a ranking system. So it's kind of like, think about tennis as like 30, 40, 5-0 kind of stuff. So when I played, there was four divisions and we won the second division.
Starting point is 00:46:07 It was called amateur doubles. And then you can play as a pro as an amateur. You can play in the pro division, but you can't as a pro play in the amateur division. So we won the 1994 world amateur doubles. We also won three state championships that year. And I finished second in world singles that year and also one state championship in singles. So it was a pretty spectacular year on the Fuzball table for me. And Terry Rue is now still competing.
Starting point is 00:46:34 He's one of the best players in the world in the pro division. And his daughter is the best woman on the planet. She wins everything. Oh, my goodness. Fuzball family. I mean, I think when it's all said and done, they're going to talk about Ted Scott's 1994 fuzzball season and Scotty Shephler's 2024 season on the BJA tour.
Starting point is 00:46:54 Absolutely. They're very similar. I heard you got Aisinger into it, too, when you were caddying for him. I quit caddying for Grant Waite and it was going to go back into doing something different. And then Paul Aisinger asked me to come caddy for him because he wanted me to teach him out of play foosball. So that's one of the ways that I got in. My favorite part is I actually flunked out of college because I practiced so much foosball, I didn't go to class. And I ended up flunking out of college.
Starting point is 00:47:18 And my dad got very upset with me and told me I'd never be anything playing foosball. And whenever I got the job with Paul Aisinger, who was one of his year, he rose and said hey dad guess what fuzball got me a job with paulet singer so it was kind of funny oh my that is awesome that's good fell out of college just got addicted to fosball all right well that kind of interesting story is old as time yeah that kind of covered my one of mine there um so
Starting point is 00:47:41 you mentioned grant way you were on the bag for him when i in my opinion one of the greatest golf shots it's ever been hit tiger wood 72nd hole glen abbey canadian open out of the fairway bunker with a six iron you're right there you got to see it up close and personal. Where would you rank that as far as best shots you've ever witnessed in person? It hurt, man. It hurt bad. That's what I'd rank it painful. When that thing came out, I was like, oh my gosh, we just won this tournament. And I was like, wait a second, this is right at the flag. It's still going. I'm kidding me. How was that good? Yeah, that was
Starting point is 00:48:16 sick. I mean, especially, that was a lot of pressure. I mean, that was the first time Tiger had played in Canada. I think the only time he played in Canada, and apparently he signed up because only Lee Trevino had won the British Open, the U.S. Open, and the Canadian Open. And he had won the British in the U.S. that year. So he decided, hey, I'm going to go play in the Canadian Open and try to get that record as well. And so to be tied for the lead with him, Grant shot 66, beat the tournament record by three. And coming down the stretch, you know, one-on-one with him was fascinating, you know, to see. Because so many people were out there just to watch Tiger in the greatest year he ever had.
Starting point is 00:48:51 And then for him to admit, that shot was just incredible. You know, the pressure, when he was in that bunker, I was like, oh, and we were already on the green. I thought, man, we might have him. And of course we didn't. So pretty awesome. That's one of the most remarkable shots ever seen, which leads to my next question, which may be a tough one to answer, but give it a go here. We've already covered a couple of them. You've seen some great shots over the course of your career, both by your players and just in the group, like with Tiger. Greatest shot you've ever witnessed in person. Not even a contest, 2012 Masters by Bubba Watson. Not the one you're thinking of.
Starting point is 00:49:24 Really? Yeah, on Friday, Bubba was, I think, three under par. We got the whole 11. It's changed over the years. But he hit it in the right trees. We're three under par, which is great, you know, going into the back nine. And he hit it in the right trees. And we get up there.
Starting point is 00:49:40 And his ball, when I walk up to it in the trees, it looks like, just imagine a golf ball in a bird's nest. Take a pine straw that a bird has made a nest in for its eggs. Take a golf ball and put it in there. That's exactly what the lie looked like. fluffed up, completely surrounded by pine straw. And when we look through the trees, we probably had 30 feet to get out of the trees and maybe like 15 feet high, 15 feet wide, we're looking left of the leaderboard, which is left of the water. And he's like, what do you think? And I said, let's just chip it out. This is one of the easiest pins to hit a wedge to on the course. You know,
Starting point is 00:50:14 is that kind of middle right pin short of the bunker. It's like, hey, chip it out. It'd be an easy wedge. It was probably make par. If not, we're still two under. It's great going in the back nine, kind of deal. And he goes, you know, I'm known for hooking it, right? And I thought to myself, how are you going to get any spin on this ball? Like, there's no way any human being can spin this ball out of this lie. Impossible. There's no chance. And I tried to explain that to him. And he said, back up, man, I got this. And I was like, this is the dumbest thing I've ever seen in my entire life. Like, we're hitting this in the water. There's no doubt. The only place this ball is going to go is in the water. And sure enough, he gets up and hits this low duck hook nine iron. It hooks so much,
Starting point is 00:50:52 it actually caught the slope short right of the green rolled down onto the front and he two putted for par and I was like that is the greatest shot I've ever seen in my life and to this day I still don't understand how that happened yeah like I can't even fathom that someone could do that it was insane I still don't believe it's possible I'm like that I don't know how I've been witnessed that we're gonna hit this right we're gonna hit the water overhooked it from that lie because it caught those hills on the right yeah that's he did it was crazy I mean you can't hook it you like I'll go over here you anybody we'll go put some balls down i'll recreate the line show me a hook you might get five yards on it this dude duck hooked it out of there i was like how are you doing this i might have to go revisit that one on the youtube machine that is really cool that's good i would not have expected that all right this i'm not taking credit for this or blame for this this is from another caddy just told me to ask you what you think of when you hear the name shigeki mariyama that's hilarious i love that The Shigeki Mario's story is the funniest, man. Gosh, that's so good.
Starting point is 00:51:53 I love Shigekeke. What happened? So two things with Shigekeke. When Grant finished second in Canada the week before we play with Tiger, the next week, the week of Tiger, I went and got in the hot tub at my hotel, and there was, it was like a six-person, maybe an eight-person hot tub in a very small room. And it said, like maximum capacity eight people. and the door opened up and 15 Japanese people walked in.
Starting point is 00:52:20 I'm not even kidding. And I was like, oh, my gosh, they're not all going to get in here. And every single one of them got in this eight person. And I'm like sitting side to side with him. And it's a round one. So I'm kind of just staring at the water in the middle. And I'm like, this is awkward, but I'm going to stay in here for a minute. I look up and there's Shigeki Mariyama.
Starting point is 00:52:36 And I just started catty and I loved him. I was a fan of the game. And I was like, oh, gosh, Shigeki Mariam. So I was like, oh, hey, Shigeki. And he's like, oh, hello. And he says, you play golf? And I said, no, I caddy. And he said, who are you catty for?
Starting point is 00:52:49 And I said, I catty for Grant Wade. He goes, oh, last week a bigger money, huh? I died laughing at that. That was so funny. And then you might remember when Bubba and Steve Elkington got in that big stuff full of whatever it's called at New Orleans. And so they were arguing the whole back nine and fussing each other. And we were playing with Shige.
Starting point is 00:53:12 And Shigeki had been for two rounds talking to us. Hey, how you doing? Good shot. Nice this. You know, just normal conversation. Well, we get in the, we get in the scoring tent and the rules officials are trying to sort out, like, what's going on? You know, they're talking because this is bad for our, you know, our golf program. And what happened, Steve? What happened, Bubba? Okay, guys, calm down. You tell me. Okay, fine. Shigeki, what did you see? And he goes, oh, too much English. You did not pull out the too much English card when you've been speaking English for two days, bro.
Starting point is 00:53:43 It was so funny. He totally used that to his advantage. I was like, that was smart. That was really smart. So he went up another notch in my book. Turned into Sammy Sosa all of a second. That's going to get any of it, dude. I don't even know what you're talking about.
Starting point is 00:53:57 Oh, that's good. The hot tub story's good to you. So funny. All right. Teddy, I know you're a big pickleball player. You love it. I also got to see Scotty on television play a little celebrity deal. And I was impressed, given he's the world number one in golf that he also had the pickle skills that he did.
Starting point is 00:54:13 You and Scottie. in pickle, what's the count? So I started playing pretty much right when you probably first saw him play, and I got one point in two games off of him. He is really good. Now I do much better. I struggle more with the mental aspect of playing, and then I do the physical aspect. And he'll tell you, like, even in ping pong, when we were warming up, he's like,
Starting point is 00:54:33 oh, you're going to be tough, but he beats me like 21 to 5, 21 to 6 because I get nervous playing against him. I don't know why he's got the mental edge on me. But, yeah, he's definitely the better player. He's got a lot of belief in himself, and he's also younger and faster. But I'm better looking, so I had that on him. True, true. And that ain't nothing, by the way.
Starting point is 00:54:52 What is he not good at? You know what's interesting about him, Colt, is if he's going to do something, he's going to be great at it. And a funny story is I was at their house, and I'd never used a brevel espresso machine in my life, and I wanted a coffee. So they were all sleeping. So I just turned on YouTube, and it's like, oh, here's how you turn it on. Here's what you do. So I did that and I pressed it. And all of a sudden he comes out.
Starting point is 00:55:14 He goes, what are you doing? And I was like, making coffee. He's like, that's going to be terrible. Let me have that. And he literally had six sheets of paper, one for each bean that he had like done the grinds and he did it all perfect. And it was the best cup of coffee I'd ever had. I was like, this is amazing.
Starting point is 00:55:28 And that's just kind of how he is. Like if he doesn't know something about something, he's fine. And he's very humble. He's like, I don't know how to do that. But if he's going to do something, he's going to do it well. And the coffee is just another example. Like he makes great coffee. He's really good at ping pong.
Starting point is 00:55:41 He's really good at basketball, really good at golf, pickleball. And now he thinks he wants to play tennis. And I'm like, bro, you're not that good. Come on. He can't serve yet. But yeah, he'll figure it out. I was showing him out of serve, and he's catching on quick. And he just likes to work at things and get better.
Starting point is 00:55:56 So, yeah, I'm sure he'll be good at that soon, too. There is no doubt. He is one of the most competitive people you'll ever come across. He wants to win at everything. I love the story. I love the story of Blake whenever he was nine years old going, okay, you can play with the big boys. you just can't cry.
Starting point is 00:56:11 And that shows like how passionate he is. Like you can't cry for losing. Okay, you can play with him. Can't cry. I tell everyone, he begged us to play the back tees with us when he was like nine or ten years old. And we're like, you don't hit it far enough. You can't do it. He's like just one time.
Starting point is 00:56:24 So we let him play the front nine at Royal Oaks with us. And he goes out there. And the only hole he didn't play all the way back was number nine because he couldn't clear the water. And he shot even par. And he couldn't get to any hole. But you could see right then like his golf knowledge, right? If the pin was on the left, he hit it over the right, always left himself plenty of agreeing to work with
Starting point is 00:56:40 and got every one of them up and down. I was like, this kid's different. Yeah, he's special. He is very smart. I mean, he's got a very high intellect for not just golf, but life. You know, you've spent enough time with him to know how smart he is. Really smart dude. He's a sponge. He takes everything in. All right, last one for me. We're flipping the rolls at the Zurich. Zyrick's going to be a caddy tournament with the players on the bag. Okay, you can pick any caddy on the
Starting point is 00:57:06 PGA tour to be your partner at the Zerk. So you I remember it's best ball two days and alternate shot two days. Who's going to be your partner? Man, I got to go with Paul Tesori, man. Paul Tesori is four-time All-American. He talks a big game about how, aha, can't play under pressure and everything. And every time I play with him, he shoots 68 and beats me
Starting point is 00:57:23 and stripes it down the middle and puts the eyes out of it, and he's very competitive. So, yeah, I'd have to say Paul's one of my best buds and a heck of a golfer. If Damon Green was younger, I'd went with Damon. Because Damon could play from my duck hook over on the left rough. He's really good at that. too. I can hook it like Bubba, but not on purpose. I just do it from the, from the T-boxes
Starting point is 00:57:44 mostly. Now, that's beautiful. I was going to ask something similar in that, but I'm going to change it up a little bit, but I don't want the same answer twice. You're going out and you're playing the most important round of your life. You're the player in this instance, right? You got to get a loop, but it has to be a current player on the PGA tour. Can't say Scotty Schaeffler. Who do you want on your bag for you? Current player on the PGA tour. Webb Simpson. man definitely web yeah he's positive web web web and i have the same humor we send each other dumb dad jokes and memes and uh and uh he's just he just always brings the same energy you know i think i think for me if i if i had a caddy i want someone that the circumstances don't change my
Starting point is 00:58:26 caddy and i could say that spending enough time around web he's always web simpson every day of the week you know it's like he's always smiling and happy and joyful and it doesn't matter if he's eight over or eight under, he's Webb Simpson. So I would want that, because I know I would be emotional. I'd be ready to throw clubs and he'd be like, hey, man, it's all right, and tell me a dad joke and it'd make me laugh and we'd go get back to business. He would also bring you a great cup of coffee because the man is psycho about his coffee.
Starting point is 00:58:52 There you go. That's it. Travels with his own beans. We had him on here. He needs to get contests in him and Scotty. We'll have a taste test. We had him on here, and he's like, I really think, like, the housekeepers at hotels think like I'm running a meth lab because I've got my, I've got my,
Starting point is 00:59:07 scale, my beakers and all this in there, just to measure out of coffee. Yeah. I think he's a pourover guy, so he does some real fancy stuff. It is. He's lucky he flies private. He'd have a hell of a time getting through TSA. We got a bag full of unknown substance. We got some beakers.
Starting point is 00:59:23 Well, Ted, man, we can't appreciate. We can't thank you enough for coming on here. We really appreciate it. Congrats on such a great year. Love going with you and Scotty out there when I'm inside the ropes for CBS. But seriously, congratulations. This has been a blast hanging out with you. Thank you very much for having me.
Starting point is 00:59:39 And I want to give a shout out to our favorite coach, Randy Smith, who built a machine that we get to watch today. What a legend he is. And I tell him all the time, man, look, you know, like I'm just kind of bumping your little machine to make sure it's running special. And it really is. So I love working with him and super happy to have gotten to know him as well. Him and Blake are great guys. Amen.
Starting point is 00:59:59 I'll say they are great. And just a little funny part of that. They said that on air one time that I used to work with Scotty Schepleer growing up as well. and Charles Barkley texts me and he goes, you and Scotty were with the same coach? What the hell happened to you? Fair enough.
Starting point is 01:00:12 There is this thing called talent, Charles. Believe it or not. I got a really funny story real quick about Randy. You don't have to air it, but it's hilarious. I was there at Royal Oaks. We were going to do some work, and I got there early. And I said, come on, coach, hook me up, you know? So coach came over and watched me hit a few wedges.
Starting point is 01:00:28 And, man, in five minutes, had me just hitting the best prettiest little low-flighted wedges I've ever hit my entire life. And Scotty drives up. you know it's probably like, I don't know, 50 yards of the little cart path. And I turned around and hollied out him. I said, all this time, I thought you were special. Turns out you got the greatest coach in the world.
Starting point is 01:00:47 You suck. I screamed that across the whole rage. I love that. Scott, he's like, shut up, Caddy. That's good. Randy is the best. No doubt about it. But seriously, Teddy, thank you again, man.
Starting point is 01:00:59 Really appreciate it. Look forward to seeing you soon. All right. Thanks, fellas. See you guys. Be good. Thank you. All right.
Starting point is 01:01:05 That was the great Ted Scott joining us on subpar. Man, what a great dude he is. Love talking to him. His stories are just all the time. I never even heard about the Bubba Watson shot on number 11 out of the bird's nest. We'd covered like two of the shots that I think were in the running. Obviously the playoff shot by Bubba and then Tiger, you know, at the Canadian Open. But I thought like some of these guys have like ones that are, it's like Thursday morning,
Starting point is 01:01:28 something of the shot that nobody's ever seen before. So as soon as he started going on out, oh, this is going to be something that we're not thinking of right now. And by the way, as good as Scott he is, it's like boom, boom, boom, just lasers. Watching Bubba golf, especially in his prime, was really fun to watch. So different. I loved it. I loved watching him play golf. In fact, if there was like a game that said, hey, you can have their golf game.
Starting point is 01:01:49 Who would you want it to be? Like, he might have been it just because all the cool stuff he could do. And he was hitting it, hitting miles at the time. Like, he was fun to watch, man. And he said what I believe, for me, like the first time walking around Augustine National several years ago, you've got to be creative one, but you have to be a great iron player who can hit their spots because I don't think you can tell on TV
Starting point is 01:02:11 how tiny the sections are where you have to hit it. And like he said, you can talk about being a great putter. If you don't hit it in the right spot, you have no chance around there. And Bubba Watson was a great iron player. Scotty Sheffler is by far the best iron player on the planet, and that's why they had so much success. And I'm going to say this.
Starting point is 01:02:26 I believe before it's all said and done, Ted Scott will be the all-time leader and wins around Augustin National as a caddy. You think Scott has got another one left in? two in him. You have another two? Yeah, what's he, one back right now? He's one back.
Starting point is 01:02:37 One back? I'm not taking the bet. I wouldn't disagree with that right there. You're not taking a back? That's kind of weird. And also, if you miss the, like, portions of those greens, then it becomes like lag putting. Lag putting, a huge piece of that as well. And I used to guys like Jordan Speeath done so well in the past.
Starting point is 01:02:52 But, yeah, he's had some horses for that thing, and they ain't done. Almost got into teaching. Good choice. I was going to work. I was going to work up a question where I got, like, you know, they put the things out on Twitter, like, Ted Scott is X on the money list with whatever his earnings were. And I was going to go in and get it and be like, how much would you have had to charge per hour on an hourly rate to make what you would have made this?
Starting point is 01:03:14 And it was going to be a dumb, dumb number. But I didn't want to get into like the money stuff with him. He's out of hell of a year. But it would be the highest paid teacher in the world by a landslide. I'm $25,000 per 30 minutes. Other than, as far as a golf decision goes, other than Randy Smith, I would say hiring Ted Scott was the best thing, Scotty Sheffler's ever done. They feel like they just mesh well.
Starting point is 01:03:36 They understand one of. They're super similar. I think they both keep each other love. Both of them like, Ted was saying, like, when I played, I wanted to throw clubs. You know, Scotty, when he first started, was a guy that could get a little hot under the collar. And it's like somehow those two just level each other out. That's a perfect combination.
Starting point is 01:03:50 And then also, you've mentioned it before, but like Randy Smith and he acknowledged him at the end. What he's done with Scotty, I am floored. And you've said this before as well, like, why aren't more guys knocking down his door? Like golfers are such copycats. Somebody puts, look at the potter, Ricky and Windham used. And then all of a sudden, the whole PJ tour was using it. Like, if something's working, guys will normally jack it and copy it.
Starting point is 01:04:12 I don't know why I'm more guys. And maybe they are. And Randy's like, I, you know, I'm good. But if I was a guy out there right now and I was looking for something, I know where I'd go. I have said it forever. I mean, obviously, I'm very biased. Randy is, I'm super close with Randy. But it just blows me away that more guys haven't been like, hey, can you just take a look?
Starting point is 01:04:32 especially all the players that are in the Dallas area. Like when you're getting a little off, I mean, here's the best ball striker by a million miles. And yet, I mean, Ryan Palmer works with him. I know Gary Woodlands had lessons with him as well.
Starting point is 01:04:43 But it just shocks me. Every time I'm just like, you're struggling. Maybe call that guy. Yeah. Man, am I glad I called that guy? People that'll try.
Starting point is 01:04:53 I mean, golfers will try anything that they think will help make a difference. And then here you got the guy that's coaching the greatest ball striker. that we've seen since Prime Tiger. He's got two of the best three years in the history of ball striking since they started keeping strokes gain.
Starting point is 01:05:08 I mean, unless I was flushing it and loved everything that was going on, he'd be my first call. And he makes it simple, too. Very simple, but I love sitting down Ted Scott. That was great. All right, let's get into a little football.
Starting point is 01:05:17 As we're talking, I think the Saints. I lost. I think the Saints just scored again. Yeah. Good God. You know who didn't just score again? The Broncos. Because we never fucking scored.
Starting point is 01:05:28 What are y'all averaged? About six points a game last season or so? gave up 13 and lost. I mean, just can we just, we had three. We had zero at half time. We got three and then got down to fourth and goal, kicked it to give us what it was a chance. How are we feeling about that?
Starting point is 01:05:43 They are the most brutal team to watch play football in sports. The only good news is we're not on prime time anymore because they put us on there all the time when they thought Russ was going to deal. We are the most boring team in the history. How are we feeling about the over five and a half? One and one in these first two games I would have felt okay with.
Starting point is 01:06:00 That's kind of what I was expecting. Yeah. Rookie quarterback, all this stuff. O and 2 is tough because both of those ones are ones that are winnable, and we got something that I don't think are, you know, going forward in the F.C. West. It sucks. You guys got shelled, too.
Starting point is 01:06:12 It was a shit. TCU lost a heartbreaker, 21 point leading the second half. Lose that by a point. Going into our big week for the iron skillet. Big week. And I got dumpedrucked in gambling. It was a... It was hard.
Starting point is 01:06:23 It was tough. I'm reading, don't kill myself books. I mean, I don't know if the Saints are really that good or just the defensive they've played. I mean, I thought the Cowboys defense was pretty good, but they go out there. They scored on their first 15 possessions to start the season. I kept every time the score would update on the bottom, I wasn't why I was like, God, they're just every single time they touch it. I think they scored 88 points to start.
Starting point is 01:06:43 Yeah, it's like the fourth most in history of football or something. Jesus. Derek Carr. Look out with that. By the way, my football bet did hit. I told you I like the Tampa Bay Bucks getting seven at the Lions. Baker Mayfield continues. They won outright.
Starting point is 01:06:56 Well done. I'm back to 500 on the year, the Michigan Wolverines. I hate betting big favorites against dumpy teams. Lines are too big, but I thought they'd come back after win. 28 to 3, I believe, with five minutes left, they give up two tubs. Don't cover. Sad face. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:12 All right. Well, this week, we're going to have y'all help us decide what we're new because we've got the iron skillet, SMU as big as it gets. TCU over in Dallas. They're coming over to where, you know, the nice part of town. We're going over the little baby stadium. The nice part of town. No, the new stadium.
Starting point is 01:07:26 I know you're really doing. We're going over a little high school stadium right now. I'm Park High School. We'll go over there. Hopefully you guys have running water and shit for my boys. Oh, my God. You know what I mean? By the way, our shower's over at SMU make the ones up in Kohler look like nothing, okay?
Starting point is 01:07:38 No, we do it. As long as you got a good shower. We put Kohler in everything. That's good. As long as you got a good shower. But I did just see the new, the video of the new end zone area we just totally rebuilt and the weight room and film room and everything. It's a joke.
Starting point is 01:07:51 There's going to be a lot of popped RLX collars at this game. You know what I mean? There will be. A lot of pastel colored pop collars. With their collar stay. Exactly, with a camo hat for the respective school. All right. SMU, catching two and a half at home against TCU.
Starting point is 01:08:06 We want to hear from y'all, leave in the comments below. What should our bet be between Slees and I? Yeah, I'm curious to see where this goes. How do you feel? Both coming off L's, by the way. You guys had a bye week. Go ahead of buy week to get your mind right. We lost a freaking BYU.
Starting point is 01:08:19 Are you kidding me? 1815. I can't sleep on those guys. Can you like that's a Broncos score right there. Now we got y'all, and then I believe we have our ACC opener against Florida State, who is not hot. It's looking less terrifying than it did three weeks ago. They are broken.
Starting point is 01:08:36 Broken. As sad as we are, like our team's lost game, we were hoping to be both unbeaten going into this thing. If you're a four state fan, I mean, that's a long fall from not losing a game last year to not being able to move the ball against anyone.
Starting point is 01:08:49 There was this great TikTok that came out yesterday, I believe. It was about some singer, and they listed his song because he was from Florida State, and then there's like, and then there's Jake Owen. who sings barefoot blue gene night. And then there's the Florida State Seminels who were Owen 3.
Starting point is 01:09:04 It was all about Owens. Yeah, it was awesome. But yeah, they suck. They're not good. That's actually a very winnable game for y'all. We'll see what happens. But seriously, leave the comments below. What should Sleez and I bet on the iron skill?
Starting point is 01:09:16 It's going to be a lot of fun. Thank you all for listening. Thanks to RLX, golf, Kohler, Ted Scott. Awesome week. We'll talk to you on next week's subpar.

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