Subpar - Tim Herron talks epic prank wars on the PGA Tour, ’scripting’ the Masters

Episode Date: January 3, 2023

On this week's episode of GOLF's Subpar, 4-time PGA Tour winner Tim Herron joins former PGA Tour pro Colt Knost and jicky jack legend Drew Stoltz for an exclusive, in-studio, interview. The man known fondly as 'Lumpy' talks Tiger Woods joining the Tour in his prime, his process for 'scripting' the Masters and some of the most epic prank wars to ever take place on the PGA Tour.   Subpar Podcast: https://linktr.ee/Golf1271 Birdie Juice Merch: https://proshop.golf.com/collections/birdie-juice-collection

Hello world. Happy 2023 from Colt Nost and the Sleazy man, Drew Stoltz. Slees, 2022 went out with a bang for you. The hornfrocks got the job done over the Michigan Wolverines. You were in the building. First of, both playoff games were fantastic. Best ever. But leading it off with the frogs, how much fun did you have at that game? Dude, we got done finally.

It was a long day because we showed up at game started two. It's like we can get there early. We're going to do the whole thing. like old times had the whole squad from tc u some local people was like we're doing this we hadn't done it like this since like rose bowl with everybody in the building so we uh we got our money's worth we had a time and by the time it shut down i was like i got nothing i couldn't talk the voice was completely gone it was like roughly midnight i don't even know if i made it to midnight because we started at 10 a m and uh oh my god i mean it couldn't have been a better

day dude from the way that game went we actually jumped out to a lead early big one there were times where I was like, are we just going to, are we just going to win a normal game and not have to freak out for the entire time? Nope. We get up 19. I'm like, we are one score away from this should be over. And next thing I know, all right, we're up. It's one score again.

That second or that middle third, beginning fourth stretch of football was unlike anything I've ever seen before. There were more points in a short period of time. And every time Michigan got the mo was like, here they come, dude. We're going to find a way to fuck this up. Nope. There we come back for 75-yard touchdown. It was so back and forth.

the place was packed. All the Michigan fans that I came into contact with were cool. There was no, you know, how to get some of the fans. Well, Trent's on a different, you know. He, by the way, didn't even, he hasn't even been communicating with me. He's been trying to brush this thing off a little bit. But all the fans that were there were good. And dude, it's just, it's been fun to like really, really care about it.

It's been a few years now since we had a team that mattered. And now we got one. And this team, whether you love them or hate them, they're fun as hell to watch. They put good entertainment up there. Two things. I thought one of the massive swings was when you were up 14-3, Michigan threw that long pass, looked like the guy scored, calm him down with the one, and then they fumble. Great call by the officials.

Great call. In my unbiased opinion. And two, I need you to officially apologize to Sunny Dykes. You hated on him at the start when they made the hire, and now the TCU Hornfrogs are going to the national championship game. This is all part of my master plan. I know Sonny listens, and I had to put a challenge out there for him, and he's responded. And I believe, if I said it correct, I was like, I would be shocked if we don't make national championship in his first year. Now look, here we are.

Zani's done it. He's been, dude, it's just been fun as hell. I can't wait. I'm trying. There's a good chance. Maybe I'm in L.A. Next week. I'm going to ask.

Are you going to go? I have to go. I have an opportunity to go. It's like, could be once in a lifetime. You don't know, or we might win seven noughties in a row. Okay. You never know. But I got to go.

And it's like at this point, what Georgia hasn't lost in 26, 27 games. Like if we go out there and lose, just that. All right. So who's going to talk shit? Who beat, who beat them? Who's beat this Georgia? Nobody. They sent their whole defense in the first round of the NFL draft last year.

Lost six starters. They lost all of them in the first round, basically. Came back and reloaded. Still haven't been beat. I mean, there's been 27 games or something like that since they've lost. So like, we got no downside. Well, it's going to be awesome. We weren't even supposed to be here.

That game against Ohio State was fantastic. I feel horrible for the Ohio State kicker. Like, that's just the whole university hates him. for probably 24 hours. Which sucks because they had the lead. Where's the defense? Yeah. Defense could easily got some stops.

They never have to rely. This guy shouldn't have to be making a game one. But I felt bad for him, but I'm excited to see George go up against TCU. But how about the opening line? 13 and a half. No respect for the frogs. So what we're used to. Do you just insert big school name here and say TCU can't hang.

TC's not big enough teasing. Michigan talked about how they were going to run it straight down our throats. The first play, the 50 piece out the gates on the first play, I was like, I would turn around like, it was exactly like Wisconsin though in the Rose Bowl. And I was like, oh my God, boys, that's a problem. After that, they didn't really run it. They threw it around a ton. They didn't really run it that much success.

It's the same story every time. But dude, Georgia, we've been saying everyone that has eyeballs been saying like that's the best team. Of course. They beat everybody. So what are you going to do? I thought it would be a 10 and a hook is what my guess was. We were all talking about. It's like it's more than 10.

It's not two tubs. I think it's 10 and a half. What, 13 and a half open, jumped to 14. now down to 13 and a half. I saw 13 and a half this morning. I'm hitting 13 and a half. You're going up against a money-making machines. Veteran quarterback, Stetson Bennett, who's, I think, R-H.

He's 34, I believe. Seven kids. That's incredible. Transfer to BYU next year. I am terrified right now because I actually didn't realize when they booked my flight. I have to go to the Latin American Amateur in Puerto Rico on Monday. Oh, my God. American Airlines, they sometimes have live TV.

If they don't have live TV, I'm going to be a very unruly passenger. That I did not know. It's also a huge issue. That TV, even when it works, it's spotty. It goes in and out. And then it's like, we'll resume. That's a tough time to be in the air. If the flying gods have any love for me.

I'll be in the air, but in a different way. Yes, I know you. You know what I mean? But a lot's happened since we just had a two-week break, which was wonderful. We needed it to recharge for 2023. We're back. We've got some awesome guests coming up. But our last guest of 2022, the wizard, Ozzie Smith was on here.

We talked about how, you know, the man loves golf, plays nonstop, has never made a hole in one. And just a few days ago on Instagram, boom, there it is. Ozzie Smith makes his first hole in one. You come on subpar, great shit happens. On the board for Ozzy's, people started sending us the picture. That's how we found out. It looked freezing in St. Louis, where everyone was playing, it just shows what a die hard Ozzy is to get out there.

And then finally hoop one after all that. I don't care how good or bad you are. Like that, getting one, just saying, like, yeah, I got one. That's a nice thing to check off the list. Yeah. Now you're done. You've done a lot of cool shit. No one else in the world was.

ever do, but now he's in that club. Really cool. So congratulations, Ozzy on that. Also, this story just came out. Yeah. Scott Stallings, past guest to subpar, had an incredible end of the season last year, made it all the way to the Tour Championship, which gets you an invite

to the Masters. Well, there happens to be a gentleman that lives in Georgia named Scott Stallings. Wife is named Jennifer, just like Scott Stalling's wife, and the Masters invite ended up at this guy's house. Somehow. Yeah. Scott, the actual that's a good day for scott stallings too by the way like babe remember that third place

of the member gas i think it got me in a guest but i guess the real scott stallings was like checking his mail for like five days every all the other players are posting their invite his isn't there and i guess this guy reached out to him on social media he's like hey dude just want you know my name's scott stallings my wife's name is jen i live in georgia uh i got your master's invite i think and send him a picture of it he's like yep that's it do you want a caddy for me is my question I hope they do something cool for that guy because it's a great story. You've got to get some tickets. Give him some tickets.

That'd be really cool. But that is a hilarious story. If I was him, I'd be like, Hey, Scott, tough shit, buddy. It's like the committee has spoken.

My ear was a little better than you. Can you imagine if he never would have said anything and then just showed up at Magnolia Lane and be like, here you go, here's my ID. Scott Stall's got my iron covers. I'm ready to fire. Let's do it.

Who's my practice around with? That's awesome. And you don't just send it. If you're actual Scott Stollings, you don't just like call Augustin, and like, hey guys, And then, yeah, shout out. Props to this dude.

What if he's a dude that's like not on social media? And like, think if like my dad got like, he wouldn't know what dude. Like, oh. What if he wasn't a golfer? Didn't even know what the hell it was. They just threw it away. We got some sort of spam. Awesome.

Yeah. One last shout out. I got to give out. We've talked about him before. Thomas Olmsted. Okay. Yeah. He's now a Thunderbird, former Navy SEAL, former NFL football player for the Dolphins.

Harvard. Harvard graduate. He's a fake. Everything. He's a fake tender profile. He's unbelievable. So anyways, I was playing golf with our good friend Mike Illig the other day, who basically they own Kansas City and their big Seal Foundation donors.

They host Seal Team 6 all the time out at their Maple Ranch. So we're riding in the cart the other day playing golf and he started talking about Seal Team 6. And I was like, by the way, I was like, Sleez and I hosted an auction for a charity here that benefited the Seal Foundation. And I was like, one of the guys was there. His name's Thomas told an unbelievable story. He's like, who is he? He's like a lot of, there's a lot of frauds out there. So like, let me know who he is.

So as I found it, I couldn't remember his last name. So I texted Warren. I was like, hey, what was his last name? And he's like, Thomas Olmstedt. So I sent it, he sent it to one of his seal guys. And he goes, that dude's legit. He's awesome. How did he just come up?

And he's like, apparently he's a thunderbird. So long story short, he's, it was like, wow, that's really cool. We go to dinner that night for New Year's Eve. Myself, Natalie, Mike, and Amy. Walk in the door at Francine. I look, I'm like, man, he looks. looks familiar. I was like, I think that's Thomas Olmsted. And I went by like, Thomas. He's like, yeah.

And I was like, I'm cold. We did the auction. He's like, oh my God. Literally was talking about him six hours earlier, walking the door. There he is. Him and his wife joined us for dinner. That night. What a night that is. By the way, uh, A, that's just weird like manifestation. Dude, so crazy how he. He is period the most interesting man in the world. We're going to have him on here. Yep. We're going to get him in. He's going to tell us. It's just, his life's different, man. Like, I, I joke with him. I'm like, you're a fake Tinder profile.

You're like, what should I be here online? I'll post a picture. A, I have a really good looking dude. Then I'm going to be an NFL player turned Harvard graduate, turn, you know, like his whole thing is just a joke. Is that a Navy SEAL team? Yeah, Navy, I'm a Navy SEAL NFL Harvard grad. Oh, okay.

Yeah, next. Fake. But he's real. He's the most interesting dude in the world. We will definitely get him in here because his stories are unbelievable. It was cool, though. That was a fun. Obviously, your New Year's Eve was incredible,

but to see that. And then him and Mike. I mean, we're just obsessed with each other. I'm sure Thomas will be living at the Maple Ranch. Whatever he wants. It's got it. It's done. I can't tell you that.

Really cool. It was great to see him. I can't wait to have him on because he has. We're at dinner for about three hours and just the story. He's like your jaw hits the table. It makes you feel a extremely appreciative that we have human beings like that in the world that are willing to do the things he does. And be like you look at your life and you're like, I do nothing. I talk about golf.

Yeah. I do nothing. I don't matter. This dude matters. He's a special cat. We'll get him in here. We'll get him in here at some point and have a good time. We did have one thing in common.

What's that? Beards. You both have a beer. Well, two things then. Yeah. But I just got a cold plunge at the house, which is incredible.

Huge cold plunger. That's it. That's enough for me. Yep. So we're pretty much the same person. Got to grow a little bit of a set of balls. I'll be able to hang in there in that cold for three minutes or whatever. If you don't have one,

go get one. They are amazing. They make you feel incredible. Another highlight. bring up before we get to our incredible guess for our debut of 2023. Your wedding pictures came back. Oh, my. There's some flames.

Well, we talked about it after the wedding, how you and Diane McCord had a little thing going on on the dance floor. It was aggressive. And I was kind of like, you know, whatever, Sleez. Sleaze is a good storyteller. You know what's having. I exaggerate things. There was a picture. And I'm going to leave it up to you if we post it during the episode because we got a picture that described, you described exactly.

what happened. And it is beautiful. When we were going through them yesterday, shoot Natalie was scrolling through. I was like, stop. What is that? Screenshot that said that to me right now. I was so excited to send that to you and Gary because it's one of the greatest picture. I didn't know that was ever seen. The picture was captured during that. But I remember the first time the band got up there and played some music, all of a sudden my arm got pulled out of its socket. And it was Diane. And we stood eight feet away from Gary. And she did some things that my wife was not even able to. I was looking at Gary like this. I've never been more aroused in my life by an older woman, Gary, you little dandy you, you got a good one.

Well, I'm going to leave up to you, but I think we should maybe, as we're talking about, just show a little, little play. There's nothing bad going on. I got no prior. I got no, I don't, I'm not easily embarrassed and I'm honestly proud of it. I would be too. Like, look at Diane. She freaking loves me and look at what we were doing to each other out there in front of everyone. It was beautiful.

It's provocative. I love it. There were some very, very good pictures, obviously from, you know, the reception afterwards with everybody on the dance floor, people feel. it. It was our boy, Andy Medley, got a good one of him with his sunglasses on. Oh, yeah. He thinks he's in the rap pack at any wedding. I'm like, dude, you're not, you got to take the shades off. It was great. And I tell you what, we are starting off 2023 with a bang. Your frogs got it, but our I'm so happy, dude. It's just such a good start to the year. Whatever happens. We're off to a great

start. We have been talking to this man for a while about doing it. We see him at Wishbrook occasionally. He lives up Minnesota. So when he comes here, we see him. Like, we got to do an episode, got to do an episode. We're not doing it on Zoom, though, because. because he is such a beautiful man and so special that we have to do it in person. We finally got him. The lump. Tim Heron is in the building. Not a better guy.

There's a lot of great dudes in golf and in sports and wherever. If I walk into the Whisperer at Grill and Lumpy is there, it's just a B-line over to his table, sit down, shut out, and just let Lumpy go. Just wind him up and let him go. He is one of the funny. Not like golf funny. He's real funny. Real funny, dude.

Not a more fun guy to talk to him. Like, dude, it's been, you're a. and a half two years basically since we're always talking to him like when you hear when you're here and he comes in and then he's out and it's like he doesn't communicate the best you know so we finally got it and what better way to kick off the new season a sexual hat an incredible jacket he was ready to rock he always is all right let's get to it here's tim heron aka lumpy on golf subpar after many years of waiting the man is here to play 24 years on tour but more importantly he's just one of the raddest dudes in the game of golf.

Lump. Tim Herron, CEO and founder of Lumpcoe, by the way. Tim Heron. Yeah, it's dwindling a little bit. But we're going to bring it back up. You know, COVID kind of we slipped a little bit,

but we're coming back up. Is that hat Lumpko? No, but I should put Lumpko on there. I got this actually in Ireland. My niece went abroad. She's my goddaughter, I think. And she got me this hat.

You wear it well. You used to be a visor guy, though. I loved you in the box. I'm still a visor guy, but then someone told me like a bald spot back here. Let me see. So they're like, you better have a. No, dude, you're flush. That's as flushes.

You got more here. I have no hair on my legs, but I got hair on my head. That's the most flush. Never been more jealous. Yeah. You're the other way. Yeah, I'm the other way. Yeah, visor's going to be tough.

But you're still in the game. Yeah, yeah, I'm still in the game. My visor, your visor. Oh, have to. And your long socks, too. My head's enormous. My legs are tiny, so I have to bounce the shit out. We did find a man.

And we had, we sat down with Will Gordon, who's second year on the PJ tour, who actually has the same size dome as slees. Honestly, like, the exact same. And it was shocking. And he wears hats. So we were talking earlier, though, that, you know, you guys are going to play the Johnny O. Yes. Yeah, yeah. So my college roommate, to this day, he's got the biggest head in the world.

Who? Freezer. Who? Freezing freeze. Really? He's got the biggest head. What do you think he's got? Over eight?

Yeah, at least. I got to meet him. He's given. me a hat where even when it's not windy, it falls off and blows off. I got to meet this man. It's obviously one of the smartest dudes, you know, probably. Also, Lump, challenging Bo Hossler for best dressed on the pot. Yeah, this is a nice piece.

I saw you earlier today and you didn't have that. But yeah, really? Bo Hossler came in before me, really? We've been waiting for you in person. You're not a Zoom guy. I know, I'm not a Zoom guy. You always come in and you're like, oh, I'll be there next week. And then next week I text you and like, oh, yeah, I just left tonight.

I'm like, goddamn. I live in the frozen tundra and a lot of flights get. canceled so true but you're here now when the weather gets shitty in Arizona that means I'm in town then you come in oh yeah yeah I get so excited when I see you coming to the grill oh yeah that is the legitimately the happiest I get is when I walk in the grill and I see you because you're typically I don't see you on the golf court we played a few times but like on the range or anything and I walk in in the grill and like oh there's lump and there's five people around the table and they're all laughing I'm like beeline straight to the lump table if you ever need neff in lumps in town you find

yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah the first time I ever played of them was a Monday Qualifier. We played, or I played 13 holes in a night. Where was that? It was like in the middle of Florida, like you couldn't find that place. Oh, dude, you know, I forgot about

it. I bet you was Valspar. It was for Valspar, but we were, yeah, we were somewhere else. It was like a joke. It was like two hours away, way in the middle of nowhere, and you wouldn't think, you know, Florida's pretty populated. You wouldn't think there was middle of nowhere, but there is. Yeah, and we played together.

We had a great time from what I remember. Neither of a sniff mix. I mean, quit for 13 holes. He was tired. I think we just talked the whole time. I was just tired. Should we get the fuck out of here? We're probably not going to make it.

Yeah, yeah, let's go back. So I will say one thing. I've never withdrawn from a tournament. That was like one of the first time I was withdrawn. Playing with me. I'm done. I go, yeah. I go, well, I'll see you at the rock and we'll get her nine in.

Yeah. We're not going to play the basketball together. We might as well get that hell out. Tell us what's, what's been going on with you. Obviously, you're playing PJ, Tour champions, but now one of your kids is a stud. Yeah, my kid, thanks, man. Yeah, he kicked my ass today.

We went up and played Whisper Rock. Yeah, that's great. Great feeling. It is a good, it's hard to explain because you still want to beat their ass, but then you're finally like, I'm off my game. I'm more into his game because he beat me. So I was playing the back teaser of them. It was cold, kind of shitty and wet, you know, 7,400, 7,000.

7500 he's playing they had every too far for me and I moved up a T and still got my ass kicked on the back nine so it was playing long today every T was every T was yeah every T and you play zero I played it was it was it was yeah yeah well I moved up a tea after that yeah yeah he had to and it was just he winds it but he doesn't wind it now like that's a senior tour uh term term for it yeah is that like sending it send it yeah wind it yeah it's a little older term oh okay I wind it it's like a rubber band you wind it wine it you wind it's like a rubber band you wind it wine it you wind it it up and go. I don't think I wind or send. I saw you this summer, the U.S. amateur, following your kid around at Ridgewood Country Club. What's it like now watching him?

Is it like, because I've played golf with you many times in tournaments and you're not the most relaxed human in the world when you're playing. But what's it like? No. And you are? No one is. But what's it like watching your kid

knowing you have no control? No control. I guess you look. I go, I've always told them, don't do what I do. You learn from my experiences because I've fucked up more than anyone, golf-wise and drinking-wise and eating-wise and all that stuff. We love you, though.

Do what I say, not do what I do. He doesn't really look like to do. So that's kind of what I tell. No, he's, I don't know, the milkman must have. Yeah, somebody snuck in the back door. I'm like, come on. Look at that. Get more.

I got to give a call out to my wife, though. She is hot. Yeah, you did good. I got lucky, yeah. You did good. He made the U.S. She wanted to say, just tell her if she's hot. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, she is not. So anyways, let's go back to the U.S. Yeah, he did. And John Fields, I was his first recruit ever, and he's University of Texas. So he actually came out to watch my kid a couple of holes and he wanted to impress him and he had some good shots in front of John Fields.

But he got behind the eight ball. I saw Jim McGovern early and went up and had a couple gin and tonics and missed a couple of his, he was raking it across the hole. Other than that, he probably would have made it. So it's all patience. You know how that is.

But when do you get when do you fire? When do you be patient? And you know what? I don't look at actually what they should. I'd look more on, you know, being prepared when they are. You know how the tour is. You make your money in, you know, uh, five weeks. Yeah, four or five weeks.

So you got to be ready for those. So you're just kind of preparing yourself for that. But yeah, we're a bunch of knuckleheads. Does he listen to you? Like when you give him advice? Yeah, he does. He actually does. That's good.

He says, oh, come on, dad, whatever. You know, sometimes. He doesn't say, like, fuck off. You don't know, even though you play for a quarter century on the PGT. They did early. Now, I think while we're getting closer and while actually he's getting better. Yeah. But, you know, if we play the upties, I think I still got a chance against him.

But he's a little more polished. I had a hand procedure. I wouldn't call it a surgery. A hand procedure to open up my hand. Long story short, I've been off about three months, so I'm still trying to get to where I can compress it. Like Colt, Colt and I are always working on it. Yeah, leaning the shaft. We got to compress it, yeah, lean that shaft.

Just melting it. Yeah, exactly. I don't melt it. No, there's no melting. There's no melting. Exactly. Going on. So, have you liked the Champions Tour though?

Because, like, I know you were, I mean, it was the hype video before you came out. Yeah, I know. I was so like gung-ho and then I figured out it's just like anything else in golf. it's way harder than you think. Guys are, you hear it all the time, oh, are they better? Yeah, they're better in what they need to prepare for. Like the rough probably isn't quite as thick.

You still got to shoot low. You got to go balls the wall. And then the money is like, you guys wouldn't even know. It's back when I played in the early 90s, man. It's like it's top five or you're making not that much money. You're just kind of paying rent. But there's some guys like, it feels like this from an outsider's perspective.

Some guys are like, I'm all in. I'm on the range. I'm grinding. I'm doing everything I did when I was on the PJ tour. And there's some dudes that are like, look, man, I had a hell of a run on the PJ tour. I made my money. I just want to play some competitive golf, have a good time. And it's way more laid back.

Is there kind of two camps out there? No, no, there's, no, everyone wants to play well. But yeah, there's two camps. There's guys that are way better with proams. but there's guys that are more consistently just, I mean, day in and day out, Bernhard Langer, really? I mean, he's in five woods. It'd be how we could talk, like the seventh hole at Whisp Rock.

He did a five wood inside your five iron. I mean, the guy's incredible. He hits it straighter than. And he grinds. And he still grinds. He still grinds. Yeah. He just loves to grind.

So there's some of those dudes. I'm like, all right, I mean, double. I'm like, should I really get that pissed right now? Nah, is it worth it? Nah, I've been through this grind 30 fucking years. That's the two camps, though. There's some guys that are like, I want to win majors. There's some guys like, I'm having a good time.

There's a lot of guys that are very intense. Like we talked about a little bit, like a Tom Pernice is a very intense and he's still very competitive. And he's trying the new thing, like the speed and all that stuff. Ernie L's very competitive But likes to have a good time too But he's the big easy He's so big that he still bombs it But he's not trying to create like more speed

Yeah, like working on it yeah There was a guy that actually backed down Darren Clark He was sending it for a year And then he goes, I gotta get it more in play Because you just want You're gonna have wedges, eight irons So what they do is they play the par fives

A little more up Rough as in his bad but we're playing more like uh we're playing more like a country club golf there's a little more divvets and stuff like that it's not like manicured like the tour like it's not shut down two weeks no no it's not shut down so you know the grass is a little you know chipping still kind of you know and when you get older you know the nerves get a little you know yeah i quit and my nerves went up i don't get yeah where you stick it in the ground well you don't practice is bring that bring that putter out until you need to make

make it you know you need to get it up and down for 200 bucks and then you're like oh shit now I'm flinching terrified I hate it 200 yeah it's changed the game yeah who are your guys out there like who do you run with out there I run with um Tom Gillis he a bunch of caddies um who else do I run with a little bit uh slumman I go all with slum and linda a little bit and yeah my wife's working pretty much full time so she doesn't come out that much. She'll drive a little bit in the Midwest, but just kind of go out there solo.

Carson's caddied for me before he went to college. He caddied for me a little bit when he was in high school, my oldest son. Yeah, who's caddied for you most of the time? I switch it up. I had two caddies pass away on me and another caddy that had a massive heart attack, so

I feel like my stress is led over to their or unfortunate, I guess, or misfortune. Misfortune. Is it? Or unfortunate? He went to TCU. Yeah.

Genius. It's the Harvard of Texas. Yeah, the Harvard of Texas. So anyways, we, uh, I just kind of switch it up. I like to kind of have a different, you know, you just want a guy that's out there that kind of knows you and what you need. I mean, after being 50, I'm like, either I'm swinging good at it, 52. Either I'm swinging good at or I'm not.

I'm going to just. Frump it around and hopefully make... Frump it out of it. Maybe hit it, you know, maybe two, one or two under. Yeah, just slap it. Yeah, just slap it. Yeah, either wind it or frump it. Yeah, yeah, just keep it in front of you.

Yeah, I got to ask you about one of your old caddies because you did have a legend on the bag. Last Call, Lance. Oh, yeah, last call. And, I mean, you're our guy, like, you enjoy hanging out with the caddies. I like to have a couple cocktails. Yeah. I mean, there's some legendary caddy nicknames. Where would you rank Last Call Lance?

That's a good name. Well, last call is good, but the best is. His son was collect call. And that's because he'd go to jail on. You get bailed out. So when it's last call and collect call, I'm like, he can't make that shit up. So that's why he's at least top three. Yeah.

And there's like penitentiary somebody. Yeah. Yeah. We're not allowed to talk about. We won't say his name. But that's a good one too. It's like a, there's nicknames. There's just like a description of it.

Yeah. Last guy. Who's your catty? Doesn't you have, don't you have one hoagie was telling me this today? like basically like dictates his terms he's like hey lump i'll caddy for you i need this much money i need this i need this oh 100% yeah who is that that's carl peterson's old catty grant barry yeah and he wants a shit like this he's an english man but he talks can't a little feminine like this and he goes well it's on my terms now he used to getty for burger right so burger

fires him and then he rehires him and he talks to another new the shay i goes well i beg a Yeah, I'll tell you what happened with Bega. Well, I mean, this is what happened is that it's on my Tim's now. I tell them how much I needed and how much it was going to cost to get around. And that's what I did. I made the Tims up. So it's on my Tim's now. And that's Granbury.

And he's a great caddy. Dude, I love that about it. Greatness. By the way, that is so good. So you know Barry. Dude, I played with Carl when they won at Hilton Ed. Yeah. Okay.

There you go. We had a blast. I mean, obviously, they had more fun than I did since they won. Yeah. But that is such a good impersonation of him. I mean, I love that about a catty. Here's what it's going to take. By the way, there's dudes lined up.

They'd be like, pay me whatever. I just need some money. I'll carry the bag. He's like, no, no. Here's what it's going to take. So I go to dinner five days a week with him, right? Doesn't his wife, like, help you with your Lumpco stuff? Oh, yeah, yeah.

She does that. She's got a studio and she does a lot of, wow, you guys are very in the know. This ain't in the know. This ain't rookie league. What did you think this was? Yeah. So she's got a special event company. Yeah.

And she does, actually, she does Coach's Case Foundation and runs that. So maybe it's in a different, you know, they might go down to Florida and she just has the whole deal ready, you know, where they have fun. And then they do all their, you know, business stuff. And yeah, so she runs a great business. And she does a lot of when the COVID hit, she built a studio where they could do a lot of, what would you call that? Like Zoom stuff.

Zoom calls. Would you call that? Yeah. I made up that term. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But that's what,

yeah, that's what they did. Well, we said lump code, but we haven't even really talked about the nickname because I think we need to know where that came about. Okay. I've told the story quite a bit,

but I will. So I got a job at 15 in Minnesota. I kind of quit cat. and I caddyed 12 to about 15. And I got this job at this blue blood course. And the assistant pro and the pro goes, well, you're the range picker. So that's my title, the range picker. Good job.

So I could hit some balls and stuff. I had to pick her around. And they go, do you have a nickname? I go, no, I have no idea. What do you mean a nickname? Well, why don't you go down and pick the range? Come back up to the pro shop and we'll have a nickname for you. I'm like, okay, great.

They go, hey, Lumpy. how are you doing? I go, I don't like that. And I go, well, it's gonna stick. You know how,

you know how it's next? That's their first mistake. Yeah, exactly. If you say, oh, I love that. No,

fuck it. We got to go back to the drawing bar. We got to go back to the drawing bar. So that's kind of how Lumpy came about. So I was 16 years old when I got my nickname. But there was another lumpy in high school. Yeah. So no one knew.

No one in college. So when I won the Honda back in 96, the, um, head pro, Phil Reith. his brother played the senior tour with Dave Marr a little bit, and Dave Marr was an announcer.

I think it was NBC because Johnny Miller was doing it. And they go, do you have anything on this kid? We don't know anything about him. He goes, all I know is his nickname's Lumpy. So it became Lumpy. That was when it went mainstream. My seventh event on tour, my rookie year. You did it quick, by the way.

You won't quick. I did win quick. Didn't you go talk to the original Lumpy though? Like, hey, this is going. Can I use it? So this is what I told him. I go, hey, man, you're the original lumpy. It's okay if I, you know, share the name, you know, while we're sitting at a bar.

Of course. He goes, oh, yeah, no, we got to keep the name going, whatever. So we're two lumpies in the same town and we hung out together. He was like one of my best friends. The guy passed away, but, yeah, we had two lumps. Two lumps. Yeah, exactly. This would be a great start of a joke, too.

Sleazy, lumpy and gravy walk into a bar. Yeah, that's good. There's not a lot. And then what happens? It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. It's a great time. That's it.

And then they all drink a shitload and pass out. Exactly. End of the joke. But you mentioned you went at Honda in 96, right? Or about that times when a certain someone is coming into the big stage of golf, Tiger Woods. I mean, you're right there in the heat of it. Well, yeah, it was rookie the year. Yeah.

I played more events than him. He didn't even play his 15. And I don't know. You think he deserve rookie the year? I mean, did that help everyone else that he was rookie the year? Probably. Yeah. But what's, I mean, what was it?

Like, I mean, here you are. I mean, you win your seventh event. And all of a sudden, here comes Tiger. Things are changing in the game of golf. No, but it was funny. It was, you guys have seen it. It was the Curtis Strange. Everyone goes, oh, this kid's got a, you got a C game and all this crap, whatever.

And this guy came out. And every time I thought, uh, Tiger can't do this. He did it. So I never doubted him. Even after like car crashes a year, has it been a year? About two years. been multiple. It's been two years.

It's been two years. And they're like, is he ever going to win again? I go, I would never count Tiger Woods out. I mean, this guy's great. And he's been great for the game and blah, blah, blah, tiger woods. Let's, you know, put him on his pedestal. But, you know, he should be because we've all made some money. You've done all right with Tiger Woods there too.

Yeah. I think everyone has. When he came out, though, and did that, the Curtis Strange interview is like the one. He asked him like, what's your ex-man? He's like, I want to win every week. Right? Then the Curtis Strange said, you'll learn, right? Yeah, he goes, you'll learn.

You'll learn. kid. And then you'll learn kid. When he first came out and said that, where the other dudes, like, you were on tour, right? You were all like, yeah. Were you all like this kid's out of his mind? He'll learn. He'll learn.

He's out of his mind. Yeah. So like Curtis Strange comment wasn't that outrageous. You can't keep that intense. And no one had done it like that before. Yeah. And he's never seen a bar. See, I didn't know that part.

Yeah, that's not fair. I thought maybe you'd go like, you know, hey, there's girls at bars. Let's go to the bar. I'm famous now. Famous now. Let's spend some cash. Yeah. No, he had a goal and a focus through his.

his life and pretty amazing. I don't know if Earl gave that to him, but whatever. You probably inspired him. Yeah. I saw it lump and it was like, I want to be like lump. No, he goes, if this guy can fucking do it. How hard can the shit? It's got to be easy. It's got to be easy. It's true.

God, that's a funny story about that. We'll just go another direction. Let's go to a different direction about a guy who likes to have a good time. Your good buddy Tom Gillis, as you mentioned. Oh, boy. Let's go. Arguably, probably the greatest prankster on the PGA tour. I wasn't around when Payne Stewart was going back. I heard he was very, very good.

Tom Gillis. Very good. I'm scared of a good prank. Can you share some good stories? Yes. Okay. Well, let me talk. I have a couple older pranks that were pretty good. So Sluamon's kind of a prankster too. He's kind of, he gets in there, kind of sees what's going on. So one, one day, and Mirfield Village is a great one because it

ran, and they always believe that Mirfield Village was built on like some Indian burial ground. So when Memorial came, it ran the whole week. And it pretty much did. So all we did was sit around So they had these like dairy You played it Dairy things

Milkshed it's like No it's just like a no like these little stores It's like a little Walgreens Oh okay I got you Dairy Mart or something So anyways I mean we're on a three hour delay And Dudley Hart's sitting there And Dudley's actually a good friend

Very funny You know University of Florida assistant coach And I go well It's rainy it's gonna be rainy all I go, we need to help Dudley out, you know, because he gets so, he gets so angry. He's got the worst temper on tour, right? So we go in by a couple playboys, and then we decided we were going to put it up on his umbrella. So when he popped it up, you know, he had boobies and whatever and ass and everything on there.

And it was great. So he had no idea because we wrap it up. Yeah. We go out, we play three holes. It's going to rain again. Pop up the umbrella to go to the freaking band. Boom, there he is. He's got Playboy pictures.

Hey, dude, we're on the clock. No, no, I'm good. I just want to stay dry for a minute. That's where. So we had Bryce Mulder on. And I did not know that story, by the way. And we thought this was the greatest prank ever. We got into Bryce Mulder.

He did that to Troy Madison. I think so, yeah. Troy Madison. He did it with a different genre, let's say, of porn than you did. Maybe the opposite end of the spectrum. What's that? Now, we're talking to old. I hope the viewership's a little older because you know what Playboy is.

Yeah, they'll be with it. They'll be with it. But Bryce did that to Troy Madison, like I said, on a different genre. And Colton and I, we'd never heard that. And we're like, that's maybe it's a good. So that got passed down, which is still to this day. And listeners probably do that too. So I used to wear bowling shoes.

They're like my shoes. I'd go into the clubhouse with whatever, whatever. You actually wear bowling shoes? Yeah, bowling shoes? Yeah, like they just jacked from the bowling shoes. Yeah. So why? Why?

Why not? Because you're sweet and the stylish? Yeah, why not? Why not? You don't want a little gription. You want a little slide. Okay. Perfect.

You know, when you're two, stepping and shit. All right. Makes sense. So anyways, I don't know. Well,

we got a camera here. So, talk to him. So we're at Mirfield Village. I go in, you know, rain delay,

whatever. It's, now it's, we got to go back the next morning. We got to go get a quick bite, whatever. He decides he was going to

super glue my shoes together like this. So then I had to, those were the only shoes I had. So now I had to go into a restaurant with golf shoes that he was in. And so he totally played it up. He goes, oh, look, a golfer. Who's playing in the event? But, you know, he's totally playing me.

Like, I'm acting like I got the glove in the back pocket. Of course. Yeah, I'm a golfer. Yeah, I'm sweet. This is comp, right? I go, you're an asshole. You super glued the souls together on my shoes. I always thought that was a pretty good thing.

Can I ask one more question about the bowl? Did you steal the bowling shoes from the alley or did you actually go buy some? No, that's how young you guys are. They actually used to make bowling shoes that we'd buy. Okay. Like to wear? Yes, Colan had bowling shoes. Okay.

We aren't seen. Mine didn't. Mine came from the bowling alley. I stole. Most people, yeah. I stole those bitches parents. But I make sure they spray them down first. Of course, dude.

You don't want athletes foot? No, athletes. You're a classy guy. So anyways, go back to Gillis. All right. So we're sitting up. We're in Vancouver playing the Canadian Open. That's when Tommy Ganey said this is the best course I've ever played.

They could actually play a U.S. Open here. Too bad. It's in Canada. But anyways, you know, that's education. I don't know where we went to school. Geography.

Whatever. He just didn't know where Canada was. So we're up there playing and it starts misting and now it starts pouring. And we played in the morning, the pro am, and they have the big buffet out there. So for some, reason they got this pig out there and with the pig head and we're sitting there talking

we're like man we can't hit balls too shitty out what are we going to do well let's prank Gillis so we go we go up to the guy that you know the chef and I go hey you got an axe we got an axe off that's a good idea I got no no grab whatever it's going to cut that head off we got the head we got the head off we threw in the locker with a golf ball like it's an apple like an apple I put a smoke in right there. So now he knows it's me. He knows it's Carl and he knows it's George McNeil. Right. So

we're sitting there and what happened was Gillis was playing the proam and he was late and he went in after nine because it's raining to get more rain gear and shit and then he saw when we're hiding around the corner

and he goes in and opens it up and smells he goes you son of bitches you guys are going to you guys are going to get it. I go paybacks are hell. This is going to stink up all my reins student and everything in here. Now he's freaking out. I'm like, oh, shit, we're done.

We're all pointing at Carl. It's Carl putting the pig head in your locker. Yeah, so he got the pig head, and then it goes on and on. Well, he delivered 14 pizzas to Carl's house. From seven different places, right? On Carl's credit card. I don't know how he got Carl's credit card. He had Ruffers come.

I mean, he's had big jugs of water. Yeah. Yeah, big jugs of water and plumber because there was the pipes had busted or something in the middle of the night. Yeah, he's nuts. So he thinks up all this stuff. I don't have time to do that because I need to take a nap. I want to do, obviously, he's the king. And I tell people, always you don't cross Tom Gillis.

You always want to be on Tom's team. Oh, yeah. Because he'll go to different levels. And I wanted to fuck with Gary Woodland one time. So I went to Tom and I was like, give me some ideas. And he did. And I'm like, oh, my God. I might lose my friend over there.

Exactly. You kid. No, it crosses the line. It gets dark, actually. I'm like, we don't want to go dark. You kidnap his wife, okay? And you write a ransom letter.

Like, Jesus. Fuck, dude. But he is wild. He will be a great podcast guest. He'll be a great podcast guest. His Twitter is just incredible. People are going to love him. And you wouldn't believe all the people that come back.

He tells me all the people that come back. I don't even follow his Twitter. He just tells me on the range. And he can go, man. He can talk. And he goes. you know. Yeah, we need to keep you listening.

He doesn't listen. He just talks. He just talks. He's awesome. Y'all's that era, like that group especially was like that was the golden era of the Well, they were, because there's some that you're not bringing up that are fans that we don't have to bring up. They like make, you know what I mean? But like that was, y'all were going.

Yeah, European tour was different, man. Those guys are, yeah. And he'd hang out with some of those English like Mark Roe. Do you know, Roe? Yeah. How about it was John Morris? John Morris? John Morris?

Who's the other one? Who's the guy that wore the backwards hat when he almost won John Deere? Guy's a broadcaster now over there. With the glasses? Did he wear the crazy? He won John Dees? No. God, that's going to drive me nothing. I have to look it up.

All right. But he almost won John Deere. It was raining. He had his hat backwards, a big muscular guy. Yeah, and he wore the crazy Oakley's, right? You're thinking the guy I'm thinking of him. No, not Peter Lawnard. No, I'm not thinking of Peter.

No, he was like shorter. When I said muscular, you got all excited about Peter. That was a little. I'd just go in the gyms and watch Peter Lawner. or lived weights. Little pocket Hercules. That guy was. I love Peter Lawnard.

Yeah. But your practice group, I mean, y'all were the same. Every Tuesday, it was you, Gillis, McNeil. A lot of people have wanted to get in, and you know,

Hogi got into our group a few times. So we have, we have our four. Does he have enough? You know what I mean? To be in that group, because he's a nice guy. I love Hogi, dude.

Frog, just played with him today. Oh, yeah, he's, if y'all turn up the dial a little bit. Dude, no, hoagie's got an edge to him. I like the way he comes out, really. You think so? Yeah, of course. So our group is Carl Pedersen,

George McNeil, Gillis, and myself. That's our group. We'd play a no bogey game, and it got pretty baddie. And then we had alternates, and sorry to say, Jason, Bonnets for the practice, man. Your first alternate in her core back. That's so good. So, like, if all four weren't playing that week,

Jason was He was in guy. Sorry, sorry Jason You've always There's only so many Spots.

So then there's a fifth And six We had Norlander Lerlander Lander He'd great kid But he couldn't take it He couldn't give it He could take it

He couldn't give it That's nice to have a guy That just takes it Yeah It's fun punching back He doesn't ever hit He's a big guy

Never hits back Yeah no shit It's great Nice kid And Hogi was good too But why people Wanted to get in our group Because we'd have a fake laugh

see people didn't even know that we'd give it the and everyone's like and so we see how you laugh so then we'd all start laughing because someone would just give a fake laugh right

and everyone's like what's going on everyone no this is serious this is like a library this is golf why are people laughing so people however they didn't understand what was going on we'd do it throughout the whole course we nothing was funny we just made people

I think that you were just going to have the best time in the world. So everyone wanted to get in our group and I'm like, yeah, sorry, man. We'll put you on your third alternate. We'll put you on the alternate. If we get a couple of entries. At Pebble one year, Carl wasn't there. He was hurt or something. And so they cropped in his pitcher in the group.

Oh, my God. 17. Yes. It was Gillis. McNeil. Were you the third? Yeah. And then they left a spot.

He had a shirt off with a drink in his hand. So they left the spot off. spot out on the seventh green. Yep. Someone's on the T-box, like from 90 yards. Yeah. Shooting this picture, we left. And there's a blank space and then they photoshopped it. And then they photoshopped it in.

And Carl was in jeans, no shirt and holding a drink. That's actually probably pretty fitting, though, isn't it? Yeah, it was awesome. Yeah. That's the best. By the way, the guy I was trying to think of John Morgan. Oh, that's right. Morgan.

That's not who I was thinking. Yeah, yeah. Okay. I remember John. I don't even remember him. I don't see him as Hercules, was he? I don't know. I just, you know what the shirt?

of maybe you have you know I just remember his backwards hat and he was yelling not like Carl and I met him this year at the Scottish Open um seemed like good guy Carl's funny so in our practice rounds Carl's always had to hit first which is weird I don't know why but he hit the fair way every time no he just always hit first okay and then we just play a no bogey game and then you know there was always something going on but it was fun practice round because practice rounds you know they get boring oh they're the worst Carl had hit two putts. He'd go to the, he goes, let's go play another hole.

And he'd be on the tee, and we'd all be, like, hitting putts back and forth and all over. And we got to keep going. So he'd keep to keep it moving. Keep it moving. Because his theory, we sat down one time. He goes, you know what, my theory is, you're going to hit it good or bad. Does it really matter? You're never going to hit the same put that you're going to have anyways.

These dudes that circle the hole and all this shit, like you're not going to have that. I love the caddies. What's different about the caddies on the, champions tour they all roll balls and stuff i'm like what do you roll them but the pins yeah it's downhill you're gonna know the same shit you know right now you know i mean yeah that's gonna be fast yeah i don't get that it's pretty funny carl's big like exhale when he putt it always was interesting so he he's done everything opposite where you're supposed to do carl's an amazing athlete that's what i consider i was an amazing athlete i would say because he can eat a full mini bar

he can clear out a mini bar with the best of him and when he's supposed to inhale he exhales and when he's supposed to exhale he inhales he snorts when he putted when he had the long putter and he'd suck the putter inside come over the top of it and make every he'd make 40 foot he'd make 2 40 footers around I mean one of the best putters you've ever seen

but he would do everything wrong he had high hands with a huge Harley-Davidson grip. But he had beautiful rhythm and tempo. And he ex- And he ex- And he ex-ed that thing left. The funniest story about him is his dad worked for Volvo. And they come in from Sweden to North Carolina

where the big Vovo thing is. And he's like some VIP or some, you know, some big executive. And they just threw Carl in a class without knowing any English. And that's how he learned. Just figured it out. Yeah, he took him two years. Yeah, here, kid, go to school.

You don't speak to work. But you know, him and Clark, he'd be good for the podcast. Tim Clark. Yeah, him and Timmy. No, but him and Timmy were college teammates. Yeah. They were good. That little, little Wolfpack squad was nice.

They were super nice. You say do everything wrong and it worked. I laughed. I watched an interview of yours earlier today and they asked you your favorite pre-round meal and you said six ounce filet. Yeah, I saw that too. I saw that too. I was like, who eats a six-sounce filet?

I don't do that anymore. It's hard. It's hard to pass that in the morning. I don't do that anymore. As you get older, like that. Yeah, you need to eat that two and a half hours

before you tee off. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. And we're teeing off at seven. That's getting up pretty soon. Yeah, I have to have a six ounce

at four-thirty in the morning and then get ready to fire. I mean, we could do this for seven hours, but at some point we've got to get to your TV career. You're incredible acting and your commercial. Oh, it's fucking good. Between Sign Boy,

And then also your ones with Yesper. By the way, I'm upset. Well, it's Ypres and San Boy. Yeah, I texted Ypres today and didn't get anything back. I was wanting to hear some inside stories. Well, he might be in Sweden. Seven times zones away. Damn it.

It's probably working out. But he's great. The best part about it was, well, we did in Orlando in the middle of summer. I think I told you this earlier. It was incredible. It was so freaking hot. And Yusper and I went on and had a couple of drinks before, before, whatever. And we get up at like eight.

and they're like, all right, this is what you're going to do. You're going to eat a hot dog with the glove on, with the hot dog in the glove, and you're going to look through a glass, and you're going to, and yes, or it's going to be working out. Well, now while I'm chowling down like my eighth hot dog for the ninth take or whatever, now I got a spatoon over there. Now I'm just, like, you know, throwing it up in the spatoon. So, because there's going to be another take.

You know how commercials are. That's what great actors do that. You know, it's like per, you know, they got a sputoon over, you know, they got to make it perfect. And, you know, they don't add to live as much, right? But then Yusper has got this beautiful woman spring, Evian water to make it look like he's sweating,

but he's not even working out on this. So he just stands there way. You got to eat nine hot dogs. Yeah, like, what the hell is this? So, yeah, I'm sitting there going, hey, what's he doing? You know, with Signboy. And saying we go, he's working out, whatever.

But anyways, I think we probably should have won an Sby. Emmy. Emmy. M. Tilly. Tilly. Or Emmy. Emmy.

No, no, an Spie. No, it's for sports. Okay. Best sports commercial? Yeah. Yeah. That's real. At least we should have been. And an Emmy, perhaps.

Yeah, we should have actually been there. Best daytime. And then, you know what? Yes, for did? He went to the Wilson gel ball. It wasn't even around when you guys were in diapers. A Wilson gel ball back in 97? Never played it.

Yeah. Well, no one did. Does anyone still play a gel? Jell, but he did. Max Fly a Revolution. He went for the money, yes, for and we could have been. Well, I guess he's a. How was a sign boy?

Did you ever? Did you, yeah, he's great. When he set up on set. So when I'd go to LA, I'd always get a jug, I forget how do you like, maybe captain. And I stayed at his house a few times. We became really good buddies. And he did a lot of things with Peter Jacobson.

Peter Jameson became very big in doing like the CVS, the Fred Meyer. He had like a sports hospitality slash entertainment business where it was more fun. He actually helped, I think, Tom Lehman with the Dayton's challenge back in the day. Anyways, what was they talking about? Sign boy. Did you meet him? Yeah, sign boy. They'd have sign boy play in the pro ams and stuff.

He was his own thing. He became, yeah, he was the real thing. He was doing great. I wish Titleist would have kept him. He was like Jake from State Farm. The guy just, you know what I mean? He's got his own shit now. He was like his own guy.

Him and his agency was shocked at they, I think it lasted six years. They were, they were shocked. shocked it didn't go longer, like, because it was so successful. No, because it kept and it was great. It kept going and you get more talent coming in golf wise. Maybe not as good as, you know, actors. Yes.

Golf wise, they had, you know, a lot of talent and, you know, I thought they would promote it and get their titleist, you know, players out there, but bringing back Sign Boy now for Justin Thomas and George. Commercials were way better back then. Yeah, but, you know.

What year was that? 97? Yeah. Did you know, like Tiger's juggling? Remember that shit? Every kid on the range stopped hitting balls and just turned a juggle. Yes, where it was naked. And they had the black spots on them.

I don't know. So you guys don't know. You remember that? You know, the black were they black it out like boobs and stuff. Callow, please don't ask me to do that. Colts night. They're running that bag with Colt pretty soon. That's going to be a big way.

Yeah, we'd be good. No, I'm out on that. Colt and Lump. They're going to bring it back for the jailbreak technology. Give me your story. I don't even know how to segue into this, but you have a legendary way around like a little loophole in the college athletics because you smoke cigarettes.

in college, but you weren't allowed to smoke on the golf course. How'd you do it? Well, no, this is what happened is a great story. John Fields of what we were talking about earlier. He was my, I was his first recruit ever. He's at University of Texas. And I'm going out to the golf course. I'm playing at University of New Mexico.

He was the head coach. And I was a freshman. He had no idea that I smoked in all heaters. I was hoping that he would poo poo it, right? Whatever. I'm going down around a corner and I'm, you know, having a heater. He sees me going the other way. I'm like, oh, shit, I think he just caught me.

So he waits a day and then I get the call saying, you need to come into my office. I'm like, gosh, shit. This is it. There we go. I got to quit smoking. So he comes in and he goes, you know what? You're 18.

You're an adult. He goes, you can do what you want. I'm like, what's this? No, no, it went from, you know, five cigarettes a day to 15 to 20. I'm like, this wasn't good. I wish he actually would have. I go. I wish you quit.

Yeah. Because it helps your breathing, whatever. So to get back to the story, then CAA, you could smoke for my first two years. They had a big tobacco, you know. Anti-tobacco. Anti-tobacco. Yeah. Thanks for help me.

Anti-tobacco thing saying no more. No more tobacco. So what I would do is I'd walk out of. bounds and have as because I was off the site yeah and uh walk down the old B line and then come come back in to hit your shot I'd have like three or four cigarettes and yeah that'd have my nick fit right and I'd that's how I'd play it so I'm actually playing at ASU at the Carson course which is now condos gymnasium or condos or something and I'm there's an OB steak right next to this T-box and John comes over.

They have Phil hit a five iron. It might be a four or five. If he hit it high, you can hit a five. Well, the Texas coach, Clayton, he goes, man, you can't be smart. What are you doing, man? The NCAA rule violation. I go, I'm out of bounds. He goes, it's on site.

I go, well, the hotel I'm, you're saying I can't have a cigarette up in my hotel room and I can see it. You got to read how site's spelled in the rulebook. And then give me shit. if it's a two-shot penalty. So I had the drag, threw it out, whatever, played on. Yeah.

But that's kind of how I kind of got around it. Obey, yeah, you could cruise T-off. No, hey, man, I'm not proud of Darden. You know, it's not a good thing, but I found the loophole. And you got to do what you got to do. I love the fields was like, look, you're 18. It helps you breathing.

Yeah, and then you're like, oh, it's open season. I mean, you went to the claw. You were the first, I'm going to smoke two packs around. Is that why I did? No. No, but it's great because you went to the claw and it was a perfect cigarette holder as you could practice butting. Yeah, you do practice with the siggy yet. I would.

Now, look, Sleez and I are doing the Zins. Oh, yeah, a little. You're doing great. We're doing great. Hey, hey, yeah, you're doing great. Yeah, you're good for us. Yeah, yeah. You know, you learn and we're heroes.

We should be looked up. Yeah, yeah. Looked up to. Looked up upon. We got to get to the United States. What else? I mean, there's so much good shit for love, man. Is there?

Well, this is this. This will take a while too. I mean, you did the scripting for the masters the last few years. Oh, you have your, yeah, you got your outfits plan for the masters. So I will admit, I do have someone that helps me with that. That's okay. I will admit that. Because they're not very good on the internet.

Nike helps Tiger with his scripting. I think you're the best champions to her Twitter there is. We do sit down at a bar at happy hour because it's half price. And we go through on how we're going to go on how we're going to script it. But this is how it all started. Because we're sitting there and we're like really Bubba is going to lay out what he is going to wear like all white. I mean, he looks like the freaking milkman with his weight. I'm like, okay.

Well, you know what? I'm going to sit on the couch and watch the masters. And I'm going to wear something, you know, my own shit. So that's how I became a beekeeper. You got the frog outfit. That's hot. That's a hot look. You had the masks in 2020.

Yeah. The mask was nice when you dialed those up. Well, you got, you got, how are you planning for 2020? You got a dog? Yeah, I think we're, like a ninja. Now all I'm on, now, now you're putting pressure on me. So, yeah, we're going to have to do. Oh, reach out if you need it.

I think the hat needs to be involved. If you get riders, all right, we can do it. We can do it. All right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. There's some good outfits. I think this might have to. It might have to do with, uh, like, what we're actually sitting on watching the masters.

Not actually what you're wearing. You know what I mean? We might change it up a little bit. Maybe you're the, like. Your whole locale. Yeah, floating. Or a flamingo. Floating in a pool watching it or something.

Yeah, maybe you're on a unicorn float. Yeah, it's good. Maybe you're ice fishing. You know what I mean? Yeah, well, I have watched ice fish. No, you can't, not in April, but yeah. Ice fishing, it's funny because everyone talks about in Minnesota, when you're ice fishing, it's only January to February.

That's kind of when I get gone. So I don't ice fish that much. I do enjoy it because there's nothing else to do. and there's a little bit of whiskey involved. So, or a lot of whiskey. Well, however you want to go about it, it's just, you know, about ice fishing. You have like a little, see, the only time I've really like seen ice fishing is during grumpy old men. Like they have the little hut, little house.

Is that what you, 100%? Are you indoors when you're doing? Now, now it's still like trailers, but it's the same thing. We, you know, there's a ledge where the fish hang. So it depends on what kind of fish you're going to catch. So, uh, we go a little safer where I like to drive my car right next to my car right next to my ice house so I don't have to be out in the elements too much. But a lot of

people, snowmobile. We have bonfires. We've done a cake of unbelievable fireworks. The cake are like the Fourth of July fireworks. We don't do these half-ass like you know, a little slairs or whatever. No,

these things are going on. A little sparklers. We're going way up in the air with this thing. Stupid question. If you have a bonfire on a lake, does it not a stupid question? Does it not melt the lake to where it does not it is so fucking cold that it doesn't melt it like a bonfire it's not like a campfire it's not like a campfire i get a bonfire is a big ass fire so you know how you have a chimney area or something we elevate it but we only elevate it because if you actually put it on

the lake it go out that's too cool oh you can't even do it so you got to elevate a little gas on it yeah no we don't throw gas on it i mean i'm not really an outdoors i mean it depends I've never ice fish if you can believe So I've had Ellen and whatever Super Bowl that, who won that Super Bowl anyways? In Minnesota? Which one? We had Ellen and her staff out.

Ellen DeGeneres. Ellen DeGeneres? Wow. Yeah, my ice house, yeah. Ellen came to your ice house to ice fish. Yeah, I wasn't there. Why? Why?

Did she do a show? I was probably playing with Trump or something. I don't know. I was with a lot. I was with Clooney. I was fucking knows, dude. Her staff came out to do, like, a Super Bowl thing. She wasn't actually there, but it was, uh, oh, okay.

Dirk or I don't know his name? I don't know. Dirk? Dirk? Ditzky? Yeah. All right. Let's get to the E-None.

Holy shit. Oh, okay. That's good. God, lump's hanging out of the hell? I love you. Let's get to what? All right. This is the E-9.

Tell them. Emergency 9. Nine fun questions about it. They're all fun with you. Nine. Nine bullshit. Now, do I have to do them like really quick or not. No, no.

No, you can sit. We ask this one to everyone. You can be anyone for a day, dead or alive. To walk in their shoes for a day, who would you be? Gandhi. Wow, that's first. An eye for an eye. Leaks the whole world behind.

I don't know if I'd want to walk as far as he walked. I'd maybe walk just like, you know. I don't know that Gandhi had shoes either. I don't know, like a couple miles. Yeah, just a couple miles on his trail. You know, if I go back, I should probably say, Jesus, Jesus would be pretty cool too. You got to pick the right day.

All right. Yeah. That's a good point too. Next point. No, I want to, this is the bonus ball question on this now. Lose one thumb or one eyeball. You got to pick one. Oh, one thumb.

Be careful. Big on these thumbs. Think about that, dog. No, I know, but. Slies is big on the thumbs. I don't know. Why don't you go? Get one of these out.

I've been watching these blind movie things. Yeah, but. Get one out with one thumb. I've done pretty well. Why don't you get it out for me? I don't have a thumb. Well, look, I don't have one either. Look, I don't have one.

I can't, I can't even, I can't even pick it up. Hey, that's what friends are more. I can't pick it up. If I had two, I'd feed you one. Okay, so my best friend and I don't have a thumb. Well, if you have a friend that will just follow you around all day. Oh, brush your teeth. Oh, you're gonna brush your teeth.

I'm just telling you a thumb. A thumb is. That's true. You gotta line up the triangle. All right, no, I gotta think about it. I guess maybe one eye. If my other eye was 20. Yeah, you're perfect.

Yeah, okay. Yeah, yeah, one eye. Is it? See, that's a good. Next question. Can I lose my left one, though? You get to pick which I and which thumb. If you lose your left thumb, you can never play golf again.

Yeah, thumb might be bad. By the way, you'd have no job. See? I'm telling you thumbs. I just think his senses. Thumb is vital. Yeah. Vital.

Okay. So I can't like a big toe. Quote. Yeah, big toe is a problem, too, if you lose that. You can't even stand. Yeah, it is. You can't do shit. You can't do shit.

You can't do shit. You know, you can't do shit. You can't stand without a big toe. Chop. Chop your toe off tonight. You can do it. You can stand on one foot. I could stand without a big toe.

You can't move. You cannot. You couldn't hit a driver. Nowhere without a thumb. Or with a big toe or whatever. You might be alright, actually. You might be the same. So when McCord's here, is he the smartest guy in the room?

Or he thinks he is. Well, yeah, McCord. I just want to know. McCourt is the guy that knows everything. Acts to be the dumbest. Like, he pretends to be the dumbest and the gesture, but he actually knows a lot of shit about a lot of shit. That's why I love.

All right, let's go back to the questions. He knows a lot of shit about shit. He knows a lot of things. useless shit, but he knows a lot of shit. Yeah, he told me about a... What, Sasquatch? No, some place in Siberia, the coolest place in the world. Oh, I thought you're going to say...

Skinwalker Ranch, I thought you're going to say... He's obsessed with that. Okay. That little paranormal place up in Utah. All right, here's my next one. This is less of a thinker. But is it sure you once had this asshole trainer that wouldn't let you smoke a cigarette while you're on the treadmill?

Yeah. But who would smoke a cigarette? on the treadmill. I thought that, but I know a guy, no, there was a guy, Boris,

there was a guy Boris, it was, uh, so that was back when Ealing was actually, when Tiger was courting Eelan, and Eelan was actually still a nanny for Yusper. He would come knock on my door and I'd tell my wife, who was my girlfriend,

don't answer it. Don't tell him he's out here. I am Boris. I'm here to work you out. And I'm like, no, no, just don't tell him we're here. Tell him we're out or something.

Just pretend like we're not even. Just pretend we're not even here. Maybe let's go tell him. He's out. He got me down to 201. Really? 201? I might have gotten to 199.

What year? I was miserable. Oh, man. Yeah, that's not even worth it. What year was that? I'm like, yeah, I can't wait to eat again. I can't wait to eat and not. How much did it affect your golf swing?

Quite a bit because it happened so quick. I mean, we were working out way too hard. not that much fun. I mean, yeah, it's lifestyle. I mean, I did it like in three months. I'm like, am I going to keep this up? No, I was hiding from him in my hotel room. 201.

What were you when you started with him? How much you lose? I mean, I might have been 220 something. That's still quick. Yeah, I mean, in the 90s, I actually had somewhat of a metabolism. I remember you, dude. You were solid.

I was a little chubby. No, you were rock solid. Yeah, I was ripped, yeah. All right. Let's move on. I saw you once. I was like, yeah, it's lumpy. He's got dinner.

You get to. We've got to get through these. All right. Who is better with the ladies? The original lump or this lump back in the day? Me now or back in the day? Back when you were both, there was two lumpies at your school. Oh.

Oh, no. He was way more approachable. Like all the girls liked him because he was less threatening. I might have been less. more creepy creepy lump and regular yeah but no i'm wasn't that creepy i'm just more creepy than him they're like yeah this guy's got no yeah oh look it's kind of like like the gay guy like less threatening how about that less threatened yeah let's yeah like yeah like yeah like yeah like me to be friends yeah yeah and they all wanted me to be you know wanting me to be the friend guy and i'm like yeah like i'll

carry him around in my purse and then this is a guy i date exactly yeah okay it's perfect all right that good answer. Thanks. All right. This leads to kind of a story. So just go with me here. What do you do if you go to the ATM and you don't have your eyeglasses and you can't tell your balance? You got to ask. You know what I'm talking about? What's my balance? Yeah. Just tell the story. It's so good. It's the best. It's so good. Yeah. So we're at a Super Bowl party. But I'm only doing it to a buddy of mine because, you know, I'm just giving him shit, right? So I'm I made a bunch of money. I had to keep some money in my account to pay taxes.

I had a good year. So I didn't have any cash and they had a Super Bowl board, right? And they're like, well, you need to feed here. And you got all the money. Let's buy some squares, whatever. All right, let me go to the ATM. So we go to the ATM. And he's actually driving me.

I've had a couple drinks. He's driving me. I throw it in. I go, this is my code, whatever. Take out $1,000 or 500 bucks or whatever. And I go, hey, by the way, I can't read this. What's my balance? And it was quite a bit of money.

To this day, he still tells that story. It was back in the 90s, you know? It's so good, though. Yeah. Hey, I can't, hey, can you help me? It was still six-figer. It wasn't quite seven figures, but it was pretty close. It was pretty damn a lot.

I had to pay half of the cap. It was pretty damn close. Hey, hey, I can't read this? Can you come over here? I can't read this. Hey, can you see how much I actually have in my balance? Yeah. I forgot about that.

Do I have enough to pull out 500? Yeah, yeah, you're good. You can pull out 500, 20,000 times. Yeah, that's good. All right, next one. What's a better fit? Your college roommates white jumpsuit at Augusta during the par three contest, or you and one of Prince's Purple Rain outfits?

My college roommates jumpsuit because I got one extra small. But back in the day when we do Halloween, we'd have a few, and he would get like Spider-Man, but a little kid's Spider-Man and put that outfit on for Halloween. But didn't he caddy for you at the par three contest? But that's what he looked like at the par three. So that's how I got that idea.

I go, this is what he does on Halloween. So he'll want this ball hugger. So you got a type one. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, he meant ball-hanger. And I heard he didn't hit the club face for this first several holes. So I lost, I, on the ninth hole, I had to ask my playing partner, Hey, you have an extra ball just in case

I get three squatters. I mean, there is more fours in my group than ever, ever played. Blade chunks, pull lefts. I'm like, this is going to be a great week.

I can't get a wedge on the green. Perfect. So. Wow, you guys, you guys have. Yeah, this one's a generic one

just because I think people will be interested in it. But like, all right, Lumpy's out there just having a fun round with the fellas. You're out of the rock, whatever,

just having a good time. The drink is, choice for lump what is it and how many are consumed in a round uh i don't actually drink that much on the golf course i try not to because i have plenty libations off so i usually do vodka gatorades and now well i like the g2 with a little bit of sugar now it's like g zero that you can't even find a g2 anymore i don't think they do it anymore would be proud huh boris the trainer Yeah, Boris. Because I like to stay hydrated and actually, you know, get a little bit of both.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's the best of both worlds. So, you know, I've done the tonic, whatever. Tonics good for the hands. So, you know, summer's gin tonic drink. But on the golf course, probably, you know, a Gatorade. Doesn't matter what color. A little faderade.

A little fade rate. Yeah. I like that. I'm with you on that one. That was for the people. Do you like that? I do. I do.

I do. Yeah. That's what we're out. And you know what? I got last call Lance. Lance working that. And collect call. Hey, collect call.

Hey, you guys, you guys, yeah, you guys can stay hydrated while you guys are, you know. Yeah, that way you get arrested, but you wake up and you're not pissing neon yellow. Not too bad. Yeah. By the way, how many drinks did you, you played in a group on tour where both your playing partners made a hole in one on the same hole? What? No, so that's the CVS charity classic. Okay.

And there was a car available and my partner was Scott McCurn, but Lee Jansen made it first. And I even forgot his partner. And it was CBS in Rhode Island. He makes it. Lee Jansen's halfway up. And Scott had a great line. He goes, hey, while you're halfway up there, why don't you take the ball out of the hole, make room for mine? So he kind of calls his shot and makes it.

And then that's kind of why I went out to the ground. I remember you fall into the ground. I can't believe it. I'm like, I've never seen it. I go, can I have a hubcap or a stereo system or something? So who did they give the car to? So it was one. car.

Yeah. Wanted to get, you know, they go, that's the coolest thing. He was on ESPN for like a week. They go, it's worth giving two cars.

Yeah, of course it is. Horrible PR of you. And that's Tom Ryan and CVS, the CEO, he said, screw it. He gets,

I'll eat the 50 grand or whatever. That was smart move. Totally cool. Over on your lumpcoe.com, shout out lump co. Thanks, there is an, there's an advice section.

Best question you've received, you've been asked on the advice question on Lumpco. Oh, geez, that one's tough. There's been so much, but the relationship one was nice. You're a wealth of knowledge, you know what I mean? Like, you can offer advice on a lot of different stuff. Well, I like, like, if your right hand, you know,

turning over too much, you just sit on it, numb it up. That's good. It's like a stranger. Yeah, yeah, the strangers. It's kind of the same thing. Yeah, it's just numb it up and the right hand doesn't take over. So I have always enjoyed that one. It's like the...

Numb it up. It's like the stranger. Now I'm up the right. Yeah. It's like the stranger. That's good. Okay. Here, you got to work with me on this one.

Okay. Here are a champions tour event. Two weeks in a row. One week, you have to do everything burn hard longer does the entire week. I mean, you practice when he practices. You eat what he eats. You sleep when he sleeps. You do everything that he does.

Okay? And then the next week, he's got to do everything you do. He eats when you eat. He practices when you practice. He eats what you eat. He does all the stuff. Drinks when you drink. Drinks when you drink.

Who has a better finish that week? You doing Bernard stuff? I do. Or Bernard doing your stuff? I have a way better finish. Yeah, I think that's accurate. I'm like, you know, I'm a ma'amillion, you know. I feel like I can.

You are, dude. You blend. Look at you. I can blend. I can blend it anywhere. I can move around. So he's very, he's very stubborn. He couldn't.

He couldn't hang with you. No, he couldn't. You shoot a million. What I did. His body would freak out. I would actually make sure that he has way more of what he's not supposed to have. Yeah, you dial it up a bit.

He couldn't. He's a machine. I would say he... That would be a fun experiment. He'd finish the last 10 yet. He'd finish the last 10 yet. He'd need content on the show. I agree.

I agree. That would be a good week. You do everything he does and then he does everything you do. I do. I do. I think that's the right one. I've never thought the body would blow up. But I like the way you guys think the world.

Yeah, yeah. We're out of the box. All right. You played with a million. You play with a million professional golfers in your life. Whose mental game could best be described as the title of your favorite movie. Wow.

What's your favorite movie first? You got to identify. Dumb and dumber. Oh, yeah. All right. No. Why? I thought your favorite movie

is one flew over the cuckoo's nest. Well, that's, that's one. Yeah. Okay. Is that the one? Is it the one?

The cuckoo's nest. I probably shouldn't say Tom Gillis. I don't want to have a bad side. You're going to have a horse head in your bed. No, he'd love that, though.

Yeah. How did you know that? like one flew over the cuckoo we do our research just don't worry about anything so who's mental game don't worry about it makes you think of that well he's pretty close gillis yeah i got a few i'm going who's yours for one flu over i'm right who's your austin was up there for mine that's a good one um very good uh you might madano a hundred percent really oh my god he's a way he's a lunatic he's really good at golf it thinks he's sucks and then just talks himself into being shit.

He should be the best celebrity golfer there is, but he's not close because his brain is just terrible. Who? Terrible. Mike. Sorry to hear about that. Yeah, it is tough. Okay, his last name is Bates.

Do you remember him? The best. Dude, he is the best. He was great, but I mean, he would hit it down the middle of the fairway and automatically assume he was in a divot. Like he was. Really? Oh, my God.

It was great. Just another, I'm playing. Ben Bates is the best. Yeah. He is great. Oh, oh, I got one. Neil Lancaster. Yes.

That is it. Neil Lancaster. Walk off. You're going to have, yep. The first time I ever saw Neil Lancaster, I'll never forget this. I think I was 14. Some of my family was up in Ohio, went to the memorial. I was behind the green.

He airmailed the green and he just berated a volunteer. And I'm like, this guy's the biggest asshole on the planet that I met him and I love him. Yeah. He's awesome. It's the volunteers fall of the airmail, obviously. My best Neil Lancaster's story. Not a lot of people know it is he had a 50-yard bunker shot. and he blades it over the green out of bounds.

And he goes, he goes, give me another goddamn ball to the caddy. Caddy throws him ball. Ah, Tyler's fucking four. He goes, all right,

I'm playing a titleless four, and he buries it. He goes, that one ain't going out of bounds. From 50 yards. I'm like, who buries a ball? On purpose.

Yeah, yeah. And he slams it into the guy. Oh, that's smart. That's smart. I'm a chunk this one. I'm a chip.

You'll chunk it up there. you know, 20 yards short. He's a beauty. Ship it up. And you're a beauty. We love you. It was fun, thank you so much.

Thank you so much. Love you, brother. We'll do it again, huh? Yeah. We'll go back tomorrow. Well, if we get, you know, more than 10 people listen, we might.

This will get 12. All right. Love it. Love it. All right. That was the lump. Tim Heron on golf subpar. Just nonstop laughter,

start to finish. It's so cool. Here's a guy who played on tour for, what, 24 years on the PJ tour? Forever, yeah. Made almost $20 million. Now he's out on the Champions Tour.

And now his son is turning into an absolute stud down there in New Mexico. It was freshman of the year. Made it to the US AM this year. I saw him out there following him around. But Lump is at quite the journey. He's had an unbelievable run on the PJ Tour. But just like he kind of comes from, he's cut from a different cloth than a lot of those guys out there.

And I know he was looking forward to the Champions Tour for a long time. And he just, dude, like the fact that he's been able to hang out there without the crazy otherworldly like, hey, I fly at three. and do all that stuff. Like, he put a huge career together. Now his son, like you said,

is good. If you see his son just walking, you would never be like, oh, that's Lumps kid. They don't look a whole lot of like until you see the name. And he's going to be a hell of a player too. But just some of his stories,

like one of my favorite ones is in college, like he was smoked cigs. And he had to find a loophole. Like, there's no way I'm playing 18 holes without having some darts. And he would walk out. Like, there's stories of him at U&M. There's certain holes where the OB,

like, you know, was down the left side of the hole. He'd hit his T-she. You'd go up and hit first, grab his bag, walk straight to the OB, spark one, walk all the way down through like backyards and shit. Like, I'm not on the course. Smoking dart, pop back in, hit it in the fair way, hit it on the green, walk back out, walk up to the green, finish the sighing. Oh, it's so good. Dude, every time I would walk on the putting green, you know, he went to the claw there late in his career.

I would walk on the putting green and start dying laughing because here he is with the claw, the cigarette between the two fingers as he's practicing his putting. I'm like, this guy, he's a cartoon character. It is so great. you always always stopped and talked to him on the range and say, oh hey Colt. Just every single time. Always shared a funny story with him. His prank wars too are like legendary.

He got it. We got a couple of them. There's a few of them that we didn't get into just to protect people I get that were like you guys are really going. It's what him, Gillis, bone, all those guys. Tom Gillis is the ringleader. He's the one you want to stay the hell away from. They did it. We're going to get Tom Gillis on here too.

And he is not scared. He will share every prank he's ever done. They're legendary. It is great. I mean, he just. to where Carl Peterson out. Oh yeah, Carl Peterson, too, throw him. And they had a good little running crew there.

I expect, I don't know where, like, I kind of asked him, like, where do you stand on the spectrum on the champions tour? Like, are you grinding out there the full time? Are you just want to have a good time or whatever? If he wants to lock in and be like, yeah, I would like to go try to win and be a little, like, he could do it. His game's still good. Always hit it really solid, which kind of depends on the putter.

But he's up there with me with like Mike Commodore. I could have him once a month on the show. I think we should. When we finish, he's like, dude, that was a blast. Have me on whenever. I was like, don't say if you don't mean it, bud. We'll have you on it every time he wears that hat. We'll just do state of the union and that shirt.

I like the shirt. It's great. I was guarding my eyes at certain times. I was like, that button is begging for dear life right now. I don't want to lose a eyeball. Love lump for coming on. Hope y'all enjoyed that one. But the PGA tour is back.

Century Tournament of Champions, Capilua, getting it kicked off in Hawaii. Not too bad of a spot. We got all the PGA tour winners from last year, plus the guys that made it. to the tour championship, including Scott Stallings. The real, the real Scott Stallings. So the field's very loaded. I know there are a few guys

skipping it. This when you know you're just too rich. I mean, Roy McElroyd takes the week off. You want to go to shoot 480s and collect 100 grand? Also be out there for free Nah, busy. Busy that week. Well, let's make some picks. Let's see. I mean, we're a little rusty. Haven't done it in a while. Let's see how we do. I'm going with the guy who's won here before. One of the

favorites. I know he's been working hard in the offseason. Justin Thomas, 15 to 1. 15 to 1. J.T. could be a big year started off right you're gonna have to go we don't know I don't know what the wind is looking like or whatever but um what cam smith shoot 34 under last dude it was insanity insanity insanity just birdie every other hole basically the whole tournament um john ram shot 33 and lost yeah sorry hey just tighten up tight the screws just a little but didn't have it this yeah a couple things you got to get rid of and then you can get in that circle um

i'm gonna go with the guy cold where Hawaii is an island correct me if I'm wrong it is and around that island there is an ocean correct Who plays good in places like that? Probably Victor Hovlin. Victor Hovlin. Good guess. I'm going with Vicky 21 to 1. He loves the tropical environments looking to peel another one off.

He might not miss Fairway the entire week, the way he drives it. Well, the fairways are generosity of these fairways. But the dude loves this type of stuff, this type of golf. I go with Victor Hovlin, 21 to 1, pretty nice odds. Can I real quick just to, this is totally off topic. I want to give a shout out to the bagel, Mark Samble. every time this tournament comes on it reminds me of about eight or nine years ago

we're sitting in my house in Dallas watching it there it is beautiful capelua he goes do they have to play altitude here and I go excuse me does the ball go farther there I'm like there's an ocean right there that's called sea sometimes they call it a sea

sea level yeah he goes I'm just going to not talk anymore how do you gauge it on tour when you're on a hill yeah when you're at a hundred foot elevation poor bagel yeah the altitude's about three. Yeah, they could hold the British,

this place is so good, they could hold the British open here. There it is. I love it. And you're fine. Hope you're enjoying your workout, Begall. You're fired.

Okay. All right, for Dark Horse, this man, this guy is way down the list. I'm actually kind of surprised at how far down the list is. He just teamed up with Tom Hogi to win the QBE shootout. You know,

he had a number of chances in 2022. I would say the one weakness is him is probably his driving accuracy. For sure. Just rares back and ships it. Wines it up, his lump said. Yeah, wind it up. And this place is as generous as any there is on the PGA tour as far as off the T.

So I hit the gala. Yeah. 120 to 1. I mean, maybe a top 10 bet, top 5 bet, but maybe sprinkle a little something on that 120 to 1. Yeah, that's exactly right. I mean, the only thing that I think he's got to get better at is driving it straight. And when he does, it feels like he contends. You don't got to worry about that out here.

So I think that's a great spot. And coming off. I know it's on an official win and all that stuff, but he just won. You crossed the finish feeling good. He's feeling good. I'm gonna go with another guy that just pounds it. And his number, I think, like, you won't ever find him like this again on the PJA tour. 46 to 1, Tony Fienow.

Wow. That's a big digit for Tony. The way he can, he's one of those guys that could just beat up those par fives with ease. He would expect him to do that. He probably not going to miss a fair way either, or, you know, very many for the week. I just think it damn near 50 to 1, you get a guy like Tony Fienow. Yeah, I'll take it. I'm okay with that.

My dark horse was quite a way, a little farther down the board than yours. This is a great betting. We can just, I mean, hammer some of these guys down. They're all good. They're all, you know, one of the best players in the world. Any of them could win. All right. Let's go with a little football bed as well.

We're rather warm with football in 2022. Oh, my God. Let's see if we can keep it going in 2023. I'm going to go to the NFL. Okay. This coming Sunday. Huge game. Playoffs are on the line.

You win, you get in. Jacksonville playing Tennessee. Tennessee is all kinds of banged up. Derek Henry sat out against the Cowboys. I think he's going to be back this week. but no idea who their quarterback's going to be. It was the guy from Tennessee against the Cowboys. Tanna Hill's out.

The other guy, they benched him. They didn't like him. So the Jags are minus six and a half. I kind of like that. Trevor Lawrence, pretty damn good at football. Trevor's starting to become Trevor what they expected. I think the Jags is sneaky. It's amazing to get Urban Meyer out of there.

It's starting to get a little production. So I'm going to Jags minus six and a half. I think the Jags are sneaky good. They might be a year away from being real good. I don't hate that at all. I'm going to go, I'm going to stay in my sweet. spot college football there's only one game left guys to two it's the best of the best the elite the big dogs versus the big dogs 13 in a hook i got to stay with my boys i hit a money line and points

uh maybe not the smartest gambling move in the world but that's called i was betting with your heart i was feeling like everything was lining up that day that worked out but getting 13 in a hook dude my boy they've been covering machines this entire year money-making machines the frogs 13 and a hook. I feel like I got to be there. They're going to respond to that energy knowing I'm in the house. Hopefully if I can get out there. So I'm staying with the kids. Shocker. I'm taking TCU

plus 13 in a hook. All right. Well, there you have it. That's our picks for the week. All right. Coming out very soon on our social media, all our different social media channels, we're going to be announcing the registration for the first ever, the Larry, which is going to be February 6th Greyhawk Golf Club,

the talent golf course. Got a lot of PJ Tour players, a lot of other celebrities some of your favorite guests will be joining us just 20 teams so it's going to go fast yep stay alert stay alert we're going to announce it very soon how you can sign up to play the first ever larry it is going to be a time i can't wait we've been talking about doing this for a while too we got great response from the people we've reached out to on terms of the golfer celeb side we're going to send it we're going to have a day it's the debut there's only one way to go at the larry and afterwards we're going to do a little live golf subpar the fireside chat with

at least one major champion who's been a guest on here, possibly two after the show. And this is going to be a special one. You know the names. You've heard of them. You love the names. Let's just say that. So stay tuned for that. Like you said, 20 spots.

They're going to go quick. Stay alert. Yep. A lot more info coming. Just check our social media channels for that. And that's going to do it for us. Welcome to 2023. We'll talk to you on next week's golf subpar.