Subpar - Tom Hoge Interview: Handling Tiger crowds for the first time, gambling with Jordan Spieth in college

Episode Date: June 7, 2022

On this week's episode of GOLF's Subpar, PGA Tour winner Tom Hoge joins former PGA Tour pro Colt Knost and jicky jack legend Drew Stoltz for an exclusive interview. The TCU alum talks gambling with Jordan Spieth in college, handling the crowds during his first pairing with Tiger Woods and his first time playing the Masters.

Hello, world. Welcome back to golf subpar with Colt Nost and Drew Stoltz. Coming off a massive week at the memorial. By the way, there are no milkshakes consumed by yours truly. I feel like that's the letdown more than anything. I know. It's like you go to the Mecca. You go to Paris and you'll see the Eiffel Tower. I just didn't have time.

I thought they're on the golf course. Getting all that steps in. The malt? You got to fuel up. You got enough cows. I know. What's Parker doing out there? Other than texting me all the time.

Shut up in the car. I saw some weird pictures that involve the pineapple on his side. some of my i was like what are you doing bud yeah he's love him though he's awesome but how about our man billy ho picking up his seventh pGA tour win just absolutely dominated on the weekend that seven under sixty five on saturday was one of the best rounds i've ever seen on a very very difficult golf course and then right when you look like he might be slipping a little bit on sunday bam buries a 52-foot eagle put and uh night night what a run he had i mean i think starting after the 10th hole of the first round went what 48 holes without a bogey on that golf course that's tough

I mean, that's one of the few places on tour. Major championships excluded where if you miss fairways, it's a problem. Hard to hit greens. They're bouncy. You got no spin on the road. Like, they're coming off Colonial, which a little bit the same way. But, like, you've got to drive it straight out there. That's just incredible wall striking for a long period of time to not slip up and have one bow got there.

Especially those greens. They're hard to put. That was the first time in a long time. I've seen rough like that on the PGA tour. It was fun, wasn't it? It was nice to see. I thought they had that golf course perfect. I was like, it's still scoreable.

Guys will shoot some low scores. That 65, you said from Billy that was all time. was like, you can go get it. But just like we saw, how about the big numbers we saw on Sunday? You get it going crooked off the tee? Like, you got no chance. It's fun to see that. It is.

I mean, it's one of those, when I'm walking down the fairways and a ball goes in the rough, most weeks, I'm just like, sitting down a little bit. It's fine. There, I actually had to go over there and look at it. Yeah. I mean, the lie Max Homa had on 18, my God, that led to a disastrous double boge Sunday was just ridiculous. I mean, it looked like seriously like an elephant escaped from the zoo and stepped on it.

Yeah, when Max ain't advancing it anywhere out of the rough, you know, it's bad. And that's just like, I feel like that just brings the guys that are playing the best. It just all aspects of your game out there, like a little mini major championship that set up. And I thought they had it perfect. Back when COVID was happening, they had it back-to-back weeks. It was real scoreable the first week. Then they said, no, no, none of that. And they made it really hard.

I thought like this was like the perfect combo. You could get it. But if you weren't playing good golf, you got exposed. Like my guy that was my best bet of the week, Mr. Cam Young. How about him, dude? First round leader. People like, great call sleeves. Look, everything's great.

He's just hanging around 10, 12, whatever, easily inside the top 20 all week. I look up there. I'm like, oh, I haven't seen my guy Cam's name up on the leaderboard in a while. Click on the app. 84. I didn't think he was capable of that. I think he made quad on nine, bogey 10, bogey to 11, like tripled 12 or something. He had some lemming stretches there.

Yeah. And my man Roy McElroy was also, I thought he was five under going into the weekend. I was like, this guy's going to win. He's going to run all over these people. It's going to get firmer. He hits it to the moon. Well, 73, 74 on the weekend to finish tied for 18th. Our best best were looking good.

And then Sunday. happened. Yeah, would Rory go on, 41, and then all of a sudden he looked like Rory again on the back. He just gives you those flashes, like, oh, my God, that's four days of that. That's a little 41. I tell you what, it's exciting. We see a lot of the best players playing very well, heading in to the third major championship of the year. Now, the U.S. Open, which is just, it's next week. It's here. They're coming. Bang, bang, bang. And we are going to be on location, Slees, at the U.S. Open, Wednesday, June 15th at Baramore in Newton, Massachusetts, with our friends from Taylor Made and Dewers, where we've

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I mean, you lived in his house for a year and a half a day. By the way, just give me some money, too. By the way, some cash, dude. It wouldn't be some tight. You know what I mean? It's share the wealth, bud. Well, we got a fun episode this week's Lee's. We got, it pains me a little bit,

but considering the way of the Battle of the Iron Skill it's gone the last two years in SMU's favor, it didn't pain quite as much to have a TCU, another TCU Hornfrog on the show. We got Tom Hogi in the building. About time, and it's another one of those episodes, I think, that, like, God, you see Hogi out there, you saw him way in it, Pebble,

you see his name pop around the lead board a little. You don't know, I don't think most people know a ton about Tom Hogie, and I think this one will be like, oh, I like that guy. I'm a root for him going for it. He's a good dude. We get into a lot of, he ain't afraid to roll some dice. He ain't afraid to fire, which we cover in depth. But he's just fun, dude, to be around.

I think the most impressive thing about his game, like, he's one of the best iron players on the PJ tour right now. But he doesn't have, like, a super player. He's not hitting him where DJ hits it or Rory hits it or any of these guys. He does it. Like, you watch him on the range, like, oh, I can kind of do that. But he's just turned into a beast. He's damn, he's maybe playing on the President's Cup team here in the fall.

He is very, very solid. It's a very fun interview. And I'm very excited to announce to leads that our guys from Rock Forum are back. Good news for everyone. The best speaker in the biz is back. Rockform is who we're talking about. You know the speakers. You've seen them here before.

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No sweat. Pick it up back up. The thing's still working. And the battery life's the thing we talk about all the time. I use one this weekend and I charge it for about, I didn't use it in months. Charge it for about 10 seconds. I'll see if it works. Go to the course.

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and currently ranked number one and most aggressive craps player in the world. Tom Hogi, what up? What's up, guys? I was trying to figure out why you're having me on here, because I listen in, certainly have a lot more entertaining guests than I am, but I guess we figured out you're in Fort Worth last week. You need a horn frog on here, right? Got to, dude.

Well, listen, it's either you or Lidanean Thomas, and they don't have much else there at T. Gary, shit, we had Gary. Now he's gone. Now we just take coaches from SMU. They're a feeder school, right? If you can't beat them, just steal their coaches from them. They're like our AAA program.

We just let them breed them and develop them, and then we snatch them up and give them some more money and take them. Perfect. Oh, man. Please, are we going to start with a little gambling here? I think we got to start with gambling. Dude, I want to warm up the water from my guy, Hogi here. Oh, God.

People have heard the stories. I think Jordan Spieth was maybe the one that made it public. when he told the story about you teaching him how to play craps. We'll get into that here in a second. But I want to know this because you're at a tournament. You're bouncing all over the place. We all know you like to flip cards and roll some dice, just like every other warm-blooded male in the world.

How far does a casino have to be away from your hotel for you to be like, no, too far? Probably a few hours, I would say. I've been known to do with my past. A few hours. It's three hours from your hotel. Is that a yay or a nay? That's a hall, dude. That's a little far. I mean, we've got so many casino stops along the way throughout the year.

But my wife's with me every week. I call her the parole officer because she keeps me in check most of the time. And I'm still serving my sentence from last fall in Las Vegas for back-to-back weeks. That's awesome. Is it more craps or blackjack for you? I enjoy craps a lot more. Blackjack's kind of just a little change of the pace here and there when I need to sit down and give my legs a break for a few minutes, but mostly crabs. I joke with guys a lot. People think I'm kidding, but I was like, as soon as, if there's a casino nearby,

the second the putt goes in on 18, Tom Hockey's out of it. He's there. There ain't no practice afterwards if there's a casino nearby. Those are my old ways. Come on, Colt. I'm getting old here now and I'm staying away. I've learned my lesson. Yeah, but we're getting better.

We're trying to get you some fans. They love that. We played back-to-back years, two weeks, in Vegas and they crushed my will by the end of those two weeks. So I'm finally learning, I guess. Listen, as your elder, two straight weeks in Vegas, but you're just going to lose at some point. You're not going to get them.

I'll tell you what, I've never got to that point. By the end of those two weeks, I mean, it almost makes you physically sick walking by a crap stable or black check table trying to get out to the golf course every day. Oh, when you hear the little bells ringing from the slot machines, and it's like PTSD. Oh, Jesus, break into sweats. How high would you have to, what would you have to finish for it to not make sense for you to go to ve- like if you finish top 20, top 20th, 20th, are you coming out in the positive after two weeks of spending time in the casinos?

Oh yeah, for sure. Okay, you're fine. Well, hopefully, I guess I shouldn't say to that. But like I said, I'm getting old. I've learned my lesson. I've learned when you got to punt on third and 30 now instead of getting the fourth down. But they're expensive lessons. luckily, once I was learning my lessons on my corn fairy days, my first year's on tour

with not much money, so it didn't cost me too badly. Like you said, there's a lot of stops on tour where there are casinos. Which PGA tour of it have you had the most success at at the casino nearby? I know it's not the John Deere. That hasn't been very nice to me. I would probably say in New Orleans, I've done well there. And this year, I've done well because I've always been down at the start of the week, and I made some miraculous rally on Friday night or Saturday and just quit for the week.

So I always ended up up there. But this year was a sad day because I decided not to stay at the Harris in New Orleans. I stayed somewhere else and didn't go in the casino for the week. So it's a sad day as I'm getting old here. What's the point of even going? Yeah, that's not the hoagie I know. Have you ever had any? No wonder you're printing money.

Yeah. Yeah. No wonder you're so rich now, dude. We're not having any fun, though. Have you ever had any success? I'm making money and keeping money. it's a hell of a deal. Yeah, we're on the other side of that argument.

Have you ever had any success since we all three know it at Talking Stick here in Scottsdale where they have the no fun rule allowed inside the casino? They are tough at talking stuff. I haven't been in there in a while, but like you said, you start win a little bit there and have a little bit of fun. They'll kick you out of there in heartbeat. If you cheer when you win, you get kicked out. But if you want to triple mortgage or crib, hand over your firstborn to them, they'll

gladly take that from you. It's ridiculous. My favorite move during the COVID deal when they put up the plexiglass and the black check tables, it's a hockey game. They start banging on the glass whenever you get a good hand going. And they didn't take that too well there at talking stick. Colton, I had that in Vegas a while back when they had that disastrous plexiglass shit. I hated it. I was trying to touch the dealer and thank her and you couldn't get to her.

Exactly. Slays fogged up the plexiglassy glass and drew a heart on it for the dealer when she busted. Oh, yeah, yeah, that's right. I blew, and I drew a heart to let her know, thank you. We'll get into a lot of golf here, but just if you are going on the road to casino, you got any road dogs that go with you? You got guys that like to do that, too, or are these solo missions? Like, these are, this is like you're clocking in.

I mean, Matt Everie's gotten in some trouble with me. There are some casinos. Ricky Barnes has always been good for some fun on the craps table. I'm trying to think. I mean, it's been a while now for me. me with the whole COVID deal and everything else. But, I mean, you go back a few years, like you said, the Jordan Speed still gets brought up a lot.

We had some fun there at John Deere, the Jumers, we have big crap sale going with a lot of the guys playing. But, I mean, that's what's so fun about craps, right? I mean, you're all playing together and you're all going to win or lose together. It's not like black check where one guy can win at a time. But that crap sale gets hot. It gets fun on that thing.

What's the longest you've ever been at a table that someone's held the dice? probably me personally maybe 40, 45 minutes. It's actually a funny story. I become good friends with Gavin Malouf out in Vegas, just met him at Belagio playing one day. And I've known them for a few years now, but it was 2018. It was my first year on tour where I kind of had a good year.

I finished third at Hawaii early, and I was kind of locked into the FedEx Cup playoff. So I was finally able to take some weeks off when I was getting in. and we just come off Bay Hill. The tour was gone on Puerto Rico, and we're at Scott Hamilton's house in Atlanta, about to fly home on Monday afternoon. My wife, Kelly, is with me.

I'm like, Kelly, we should go to Vegas for NCAA basketball, Sweet 16 weekend. I've never been to Vegas for basketball. I think it'll be incredible. And she's like, absolutely not. We're not going because it'll cost a shitload. I'm like, all right, fair enough. I don't really argue it.

But that Friday night, we would have been there Thursday, through Saturday night. Gavin Maloof's girlfriend rolled for four hours there at the Lodgeo. Longest role in the history of Nevada. Everybody at the table won like three to five hundred thousand dollars. And I had videos of it coming to my phone from other friends that it's like that that one hurts. Thanks, babe. Good decision. That's the whole dream of at night. That's lifelong friends. If you're out of a table where someone rolls for four hours, they're going to your wedding. They're going to every day. You are lifelong friends.

How much did Gavin win on that role? Oh, my shit. Yeah. I think it was about 300 grand. There was a lot more to the story, but like I said, they confirmed it was the longest role in the history of Nevada. Wow. That's unreal.

Never even seen anything like that. That's my luck. Could have been there, but I was at home in Texas. Oh, my God. A hot craps table might be the most fun environment in gambling. Because like you said, everybody's winning. There's nothing. When somebody's going, you make friends real fast out of crap's table.

You can also just get your head kicked in 12 minutes and lose a gris and go home with your tail between your legs. But a hot one is the best. That's normally the movie I'm in. Yeah, I've had no success in craps. I've got to go with hog, dude. I'm obviously doing it wrong. Last gambling question for me, but I think going back to your TCU days, if I recollect correctly, you had an evening where maybe you and a buddy might have pulled a damn near all-nighter up at the old wind star up there in Oklahoma.

And then you come back and you either had like workouts at 6 a.m. or qualifying or something the next day. and old wild bill monagel found out about that thing and uh wasn't too pleased with his star going out there all night yeah it was pretty funny uh jordan wolf the suspect in question there and i was on a run where i was going up to win star that must be my sophomore year in like december you know classes winding down but i was going two or three days a week and i was winning like every time at blackjack calls they had was blackjack there and we go and it It must have been three or four o'clock in the morning. Jordan's in playing poker and I come in.

I'm like Jordan. I'm getting my ass kicked here. I'm about like a thousand bucks. You know, everything I've won for the last few weeks, I'm firing back. And being the great friend he is, he walks me back to the door of the poker room and kind gives me a push and just says, well, go get it back. I'm like, come on, that's the last thing you're supposed to say here. But it was actually hilarious.

I did get all the money back. And I got to even and we sprinted out of there. But it was about six o'clock. and we rolled back into Fort Worth. Some's starting to come up there. And there's kind of a team, inter squad rider cup format, so to speak, that Jordan and I had to go play.

And so it was a quick change of the clothes and right to the T at Southern Oaks there. And as you said, coach wasn't real pleased with that one, but he likes to gamble himself, so he can relate a little bit. Exactly. He finds those poker rooms, dude.

Yeah, I think he always made our schedule based off where the best poker rooms were in across the country. 100%. My agent, Tom, came up with a stat at some point in my career and let me know that I was 9 for 27 and making cuts where there was a casino.

He's like, we don't need to play these anymore. Dude, I always looked at it as more motivation. You got to go play well because you've got to make it back somewhere. I agree. Let's talk a little about your golf because I think that's what people really, really want to go about. You also play golf, Tom. That's cool.

Yeah, you do play golf. You've pretty good at it. You got your first PGA tour win this year, but I want to go back. Not many golf. out of Fargo, North Dakota. First of all, how the hell did you even get introduced to the game? Yeah, I mean, I kind of tagged along with my parents when I was really young, older brother.

But I was fortunate because we had a club 18 hole golf course to host of the U.S. junior in 1995, kind of the time I was growing up. But there's also a par of three course where the holes were 60 to 130 yards. So a good spot to go hang out as junior golfers. But there were probably eight to 10 Division I golfers stretching from five to six years older than I was still a few years after. So there's just a really good run where there are a lot of good players out there to compete with. A lot of my buddies wanted to hang out at the golf course. So just a good spot to grow up and play golf.

And our high school team was good. And, you know, there were a couple guys ahead of me that went to TCU as well. Andy Dodin started it. And then Dave Schultz. There's kind of a connection from Fargo coming down to Texas. and it worked out well for me. I had to get the heck out of the snow, that's for sure. Yeah, Brandon asked you too.

Dave Shulks can take some turf. Oh, my goodness. Hockey player. Yeah, he's a little down, a little steep on the rock. God, he played good for a while, though, too, dude. He was good. Yeah. Hogg, how hard is it to, like, get on the map as a junior golfer coming out of Fargo?

Because, like, you can win the North Dakota everything, high school, amateur, all that stuff. And, like, I think coaches look at it, like, all right, it's North Dakota. Like he should be winning everything. Is it hard to kind of get looks from the big schools coming from Fargo? Yeah, for sure. And that's where I felt fortunate, you know, some of the older guys have gone through that recruiting process. And I sat down with my parents and our head pro at Fargo Country Club. And that's kind of what he told us. He's like, you know, you can be the best player here beating everybody by a million and no coach is going to care because it's North Dakota. They're not coming to look for you. So you've got to get out. You've got to play some AJGA.

You've got to try to play a national schedule where you can catch their attention a little bit. And I was fortunate, you know, I played a few AJGAs here and there and some of the events like the Western Junior and that sort of stuff just to try to get out in North Dakota. I mean, we pretty much had to go to Chicago places like that. It was as close to it would get for an AJGA, but I was fortunate we were able to do that. And, you know, I wouldn't say I had a good junior career or anything. I would play okay, maybe finish 10th, 12th, and some AJGAs. but I really caught a break. The U.S. amateur was being played at Hazelty in 2006 going into my senior high school.

And I was first alternate out of our Fargo site for the U.S. Amateur. And I drove down there, not in the field. And there was a guy Jason Pridmore, his name is. If you're out there, thank you. I still haven't thanked you very much yet for it. But if I remember the story correctly, as a member of the Michael Jordan Racing team, had a broken leg, showed up to Hazel team trying to play there. and then ultimately decided the morning of that he wasn't going to play.

So I was in at like a 730 T time in the U.S. amateur. And I played all right. I think I missed match played by maybe two or three shots. But Coach Monagel was there and finally saw me play and was like, man, this guy might be okay, actually, after some pretty mediocre junior results. Was there anywhere else you were thinking about other than TCU? I had talked to a few of schools, you know, UNLV, Minnesota a little bit. But I always wanted to get out of there.

and, you know, coach offered me a small scholarship at TCU, and I kind of took it real fast because that was kind of the best option I have. You should have gone to you and LV. You would have been a perfect fit. Oh, my God. I didn't even think about that. You'd be living on the side of Vegas Boulevard, bro. They kick me in the nuts for 20 bucks.

That'd be you. I had the best move in my life. It would have been a great fit. You would have been a disaster. You'd damn short to want to get a door. Kick me in the balls, $20 a lot. My name's Tom Hokey. Oh, God, that would be a great.

Exactly. Let's talk a little about your journey as a performance. You have some more college steps at least? No, no. Let's go to the start of like pro. There's some good stuff there. Yeah, because obviously it was a little bit of a journey. Canadian tour to Corn Ferry before you finally got to the PJ tour.

Take us through your professional start. Yeah. So my senior year of college, our team didn't make the NCAA championships. We just missed a regional. So I turned pro right away. Went down, played an ad-ups tour events. and then I was going to go back home to play a few Canadian tour events that were close to Fargo. So I had a high school buddy that had just turned pro at the same time.

His parents lived in Saskatoon was the first one I went up to on the Canadian tour. And I had to go Monday qualify. You know, that was the time the Canadian tour was kind of struggling right before the PGA tour stepped in and bought it. So Monday qualifying was basically show up and finish 18 holes and you were pretty much going to get in. So I played the first one, made the cut. And we were leaving there maybe four or five o'clock that afternoon. And I had to get on to Winnipeg to play the next Monday qualifier. Again, basically the only way out of the Monday qualifiers up there was to win.

So I was right on to that. So we showed up into Winnipeg at maybe 3 o'clock in the morning, I would say. And 7 a.m. tea time for the Monday qualifier. So we get out. And this was the days before Siri on your phone or whatnot. So it was like MapQuest on the computer. the computer the night before, put out their directions. So we're trying to find Elmhurst Country Club with a buddy, and we're on Elmhurst Road. We're like, I'm not sure what the hell we do, but we're,

there's no golf course here. So we're be lined across town still. We hung up by a train, actually, and pulling the parking lot maybe five minutes for my tea time. So I kind of stumble out there on the first tee, and away I went. I ended up getting through in a playoff that week. So I'm in the field Winnipeg. There was a buddy that had to caddy for me for a one whole playoff in that qualifier. And he, we make it through. He set me up with a hotel for the week. He had a place his buddy owned could get me a pretty good rate. So I was all in, you know. As sleeves like to say, this was only my third jickey. So I mean, I was all about saving money there. So we were all in there. My other buddies actually missed into Monday qualifier. They were driving back to Fargo.

and they get called back to get in the field real late. So I catch up with them the next day. They're staying at the same place we are. And, you know, just ask them if they made it in it okay. And they start dying laughing. I'm like, what's the deal? And I'm like, well, we went to check in the hotel that your buddy set us up at. And the lady at the front desk asks if we want to check in now,

if we want to wait a little bit because the dancers are about to go on stage. So I guess being naive, I missed the fact that this is a street. club that we were staying in for the week up in Canada. It's so good. Fantastic. Yeah, so I was playing well then for the week. I was leading the tournament, I think, after two rounds, and the air conditioning goes out that night.

And it just randomly happened to be like 100 degrees up there in Winnipeg, which I think never happened. So couldn't sleep at all that night. I still played decent that day. I think it was in second or third. I check out of there and end up staying at the casino that night, once again, led me to the right direction. But I ended up winning the tournament that week, which got me out at the PGA Tour

Canadian Open the next week. But I guess looking back, you know, I'm one for one string and strip clubs for the week. You know, maybe I got to catch on to something here and pick that back up. You got to stay at the Spearmint Rhino in Vegas, dog. They got rooms. I know they got rooms. Oh, my God. Looking back, you know, maybe like the two-story hotel, which nothing's really on the first

floor should have been a giveaway. But I guess I was a little naive at that point. That is awesome. I've never heard that story. That's a great story. Rate the strip club on a 1 to 10, 10 being the rhino. I never ventured down to see what kind of dancers we were working with there. Oh, okay.

Okay, buddy. You're in the trust tree. I would rate it pretty low. You know, the air conditioning didn't last very long that week. Yeah, some sweaty strip clubs are the best. Probably the first time it was turned on, though. I got to say that. Sweaty stuff.

I'm guessing those rooms were rented by the hour, though, most the time. That is fantastic. Don't black write that room. Hey, I might have to go to Winnipeg here in a few weeks. Let me know if that hotel still exists. It was a hell of a deal. I could probably get you one. Perfect. Thanks. I would appreciate that. Let's go. Let's fast forward a little bit though, because obviously you got the jicky jacks. You got through corn ferry tour. Then you get out on the PGA tour. 2015's, I think when people started to realize who Tom Hogie was because you were paired with a fellow named Tiger Woods on Saturday at the Wyndham championship. Take us through because I know you get your pairing on your.

text message. If people don't know that, you get your tea time through your phone, pops up, says, you know, round three, T1, 2 o'clock, Tiger Woods. Take us, what was that moment like? Yeah, I mean, it was funny. I was out early the second round. I think I shot 62 in the first round. It was leading. It was out early in the second round. And I think I was in at 11 under. And I watched most of Tigers round from my hotel room that afternoon. And I was cheering for them to get up there in the lead with me because I wanted to play with them. I mean, I'm, Tiger's biggest fan, I would say, growing up. And to get that pairing was pretty cool. So I was locked in and ready to go. And it was funny. I hit a nice hybrid down there that went forever,

hit a sand wedge to the front left pin there at Wyndham and hit it to like three or four feet just above the whole left. And I felt great walking up there. And Tiger hit it to about 15 feet in the front of the green. He makes it. Everybody's going out freaking great. crazy. And I've got like a four foot downhill left to right slider that's outside the hole. And I'm like, if I miss this, I might hit this off the green 20 feet down the hill. And I'll never forget that feeling. I mean, I stepped over that putt and it was like, I mean, you're shaking, you're moving. I mean, just so much excitement, adrenaline, everything running through your body. The crowd's still going crazy. Everybody's running around screaming. And that's probably the first leg putt I've hit from

four feet. I was just trying to cozy it up there close to the hole. and get on to that next tee. But it was just a cool day. I mean, to get to play with him, you know, it was almost like I was a fan standing there watching the first time, everything he was doing, taking note of it. But I've been fortunate I got to play with him two times since

and felt a lot more comfortable those next few times to get out there and teed up with them. Are you chatting with him going down the fairways? What's the deal? It was kind of funny. I mean, the first few holes, that's kind of trying to stay out of his way and whatnot. and I think it was the third hole I had put that I had lagged up there kind of close.

It could have tapped it in, but it was going to stand in this through line, so I marked it. And he kind of looked at me for a second longer, like, what the hell is this guy doing? You know, because he's real respectful. I mean, he wants you to finish out first and whatnot because he knows everybody's going crazy and you've got no chance to stop him. And then the same thing kind of happened again on the fifth hole, par five, where I potted it down, but I would have been in his through line, so I marked it. I finally said to my cat in, like, I don't know if I should finish these or what,

because he's looking at me, like, what the hell are you doing out here? And finally, he went up to Tiger. He's like, what do you want him to do? Because he doesn't want to get your way. And he's like, hey, man, just do whatever the heck you want to do. I mean, we're both out here. And, you know, from that point on, we chatted a little bit. He was great.

But I would say I was a lot more comfortable talking to him the next few times I played. And, yeah, just felt more comfortable in that situation. What's it like being in the last group? Like, here you are. You're leading going in this thing. You're playing with Tiger. As soon as his put hits the bottom of the hole, it's like you're invisible. And it ain't just you.

It's every single guy he's ever play within his life. But is it weird being like, oh, I got a six footer for birdie and people are just beelining to the next tee. No one's even watching me. I'm leading the thing. Yeah, a little bit. But, I mean, you know, to expect that going into it, right? The craziest part to me is just all the stupid stuff people yell all day long, trying to

get his attention. And, you know, I was just taking the fact that, man, this is what this guy goes through every day of his life. Everywhere he goes, people are yelling all this stuff at him. you know, we got grown men dressed up in tiger costumes trying to get him to look over at him. You're just like, man, I mean, you're really doing this everywhere you go. Man, it's, it would be a tough life to live, that's for sure. There's a lot going on.

What was your thought when you heard about his press conference the day before when they asked, what do you know about Tom Hogie? He said, what is it? That was disrespectful. I thought it was pretty funny. I mean, certainly wouldn't expect him to know who I am at that point. But, yeah, I mean, it was that whole thing. thing was cool. You know, that club's been played a ton since then, you know, when I won and everything,

it's still surfaced. But I would just say it's cool, you know, having grown up watching Tiger all those years, you know, just the fact that he's even been thinking about me, it's pretty cool deal. And I would think one thing you take away from that, even though the event, you know, didn't go the way you wanted to. It's like, no matter what situation I'm in for the rest of my career, I've played a weekend in the final group with Tiger Woods. Like, it ain't going to get any bigger than that or the atmosphere is never going to be bigger. Yeah, so that week, I was starting the week, like 130th in the FedEx Cup. I needed a good week to make the playoffs.

And I didn't play that well on the weekend, so I finished whatever, 130th. I had to go back to the corn fairy finals a few weeks later. It's actually funny. The next weekend, I went and played the North Dakota Open on the Dakota's tour. It's played in my home golf course. That was kind of funny to go from playing with Tiger, back to the jickeys there. But a few weeks down the road, it was second or third corn fairy playoff event, I was, I ended up finishing second, but coming down the stretch there, I mean,

it felt like you were out playing with your buddies just about having gone through that experience with Tiger. I mean, it just felt so much easier when, you know, times in the past, I was choking, trying to keep that, keep my tour card there. But exactly what you said, you know, you just felt, felt like every situation from there on out was so much easier to deal with. Yeah, I mean, obviously, it led, you, you were knocking on the door for years, had so many very high finishes, runner-ups, And then finally this year at Pebble, you pick up that first PGA tour winning. You're battling Jordan Spee coming down the stretch at one of the most iconic golf courses in the world. Take us through that final round because it was like it looked like I was with Jordan's group covering it for CBS.

It looked like it was a done deal. He had a two-shot lead. Then in about 30 seconds, it flipped and you had a two-shot lead. Take us through that last day. Yeah, I mean, I'll back up a little bit even, you know, a couple weeks before I was playing well in Palm Springs and really felt like I played a lot better at that week. and I ended up finishing second. And Hudson Swofford, I forget what he shot, 64 or 5 on Sunday, he just went out and beat me that day.

So coming back to Pebble Beach, I played well the first day. Second day at Monterey Peninsula, I made a double bogey in the first hole, some other very weak bogeys. So, you know, I felt like I made a lot of mistakes in there. And then even on Sunday, you know, I went out and I think I double bogeed the fifth hole to par three, made a bogey on eight. So when I walked off the eighth green, I mean, I really felt like I was kind of out of the tournament at that point, to be honest with you. I just had done too much wrong, so to speak, in order to have a chance to win a tour of it.

And I looked up, I think it was on nine green, finally saw a leaderboard. I think I was won back at that point. It was almost like I had new life just because, like I said, I felt like I had screwed it up pretty good. And it just seems like when you're in those situations that your margin for air is so small, and you're not going to be able to win a golf tournament by doing some of those things. But I was right there. And then I knew Jordan made a few birdies because he was playing right in front. I mean, it was a couple back.

So I made a nice put on the 11th hole that kind of got me going. And then it's funny how stuff works out when you win, right? So on 14, I hit a nice wedge up there and just trying to hit the green really from down on that hill. And I had about 20 feet, but it was like a straight in 20 footer finally. So it was one of those spots you just could go down the hill. And it's, I mean, it's dead straight. And I made that one, which I think got me one back at that time. And then, you know, like you said, I went over to 17.

It was a perfect seven-air number for me. Like, there's nothing else it could have been. And I watched Jordan miss that put, which I don't know if that was for Bertie or par at the time. But like I said, like I just had comfortable shots coming in. You know, some of the putts where I've always struggled with, 14, I get a straight-in put. At 17, I get a perfect number for a seven-eyers. They're just some easier shots.

And it was nice to finally have that go my way. What did you have in on your third on 18? because you had hyper off the tea, but I think you had some juice going. You actually got it closer to those trees than you thought and ended up having to go over. And you had a little longer shot for your third than I think you would have, I would assume then you would have liked. Yeah. So that put on 17 was huge.

It gave me a two shot lead. And I've had some history with that tree on 18 there. The year before, I was actually in the final group with Jordan. And I hit it right at that tree and it got stuck in the tree. I didn't go back and re-tee there. Then in the first round of the term, and I hit one that hitting the tree as well. It took a while to drop out.

I was real happy when I could pull hybrid off that tea. And, you know, my natural shot's a little fade off the tea. So I was just expecting to get something down there. The tree won't be a problem. And I kind of hit like a little pole draw. So it went a lot further than I was expecting down there. I was right behind that dang tree again for my second shot. So I had to hit an eight iron over the top of that tree.

And that left me, I think I had like 160, low 160s in into a little wind. So I was hitting a seven iron in for my third shot. And it was certainly. a little further than I would have liked, but at that time, I was thinking just anywhere up there around the green, just left the hole, and I'll be fine. You know, it got a little bit of a bad kickoff that downslope landing, just short, but it all worked out, I guess. Yeah.

And you got to raise an incredible trophy on one of the most beautiful golf courses in the planet. And I know one of your lifelong goals was to play the Masters. And when you won that golf tournament, it booked your ticket to Augusta National. What was it like going there for the first time? When you got there for the master's issue, was that your first time ever on property? Yeah, I had never been there. And so I went out on my way to Bay Hill about a month before.

I was able to take my dad and brother with a member that hosted us. And that was all of our first times to August. We never been there and watched, never played. So that was a pretty cool deal to get to do all together as a family for the first time. And I just played it straight through, kind of took it in and away we went. But, you know, that whole week, just everything about it, the drive down Magnolia Lane. So much of that, it's just so cool to take in. And that was my first time.

And hopefully I'll be back next year. I think I've played well that I'm about close to Lockton the Tour Championship at this point. So like you said, when I won that tournament at Pebble Beach, that was the first thing I was thinking I was giving me to Augusta. Because so many people now throughout my eight years on Tour Mass if I played the Masters, what does it take to get to August and it basically got to win. So that was pretty cool. What did you take away as your favorite part of the week? I think the coolest part is just having so many family and friends that come out to watch

and get to experience Augusta because I'm there. And it's such a cool place. Everybody would always ask me, what is it like once I had finally been there? And it's like, you know, the place is so hyped up. There's so much expectation leading into it. that almost everything else would fail. And this is like the one place that exceeds those expectations, right? Like there's just no way to really explain it to people.

And I think the coolest part was having, you know, my high school coach was able to come, some other friends and family, you know, just people that have helped me get to that point. And for them to all have Augusta's their first experience is pretty cool. Yeah, not only is it just the place is incredibly special, but that's like the kind of symbol, like I made it. Like every kid as a, when you're growing up on the putting green, like this puts to win the masters and then you actually get there and it's like I made it but staying on major championships for a minute you're coming off your best finish here recently at the pGA championship at southern hills

you top 10 out there i feel like you're starting to figure it out because if you look in years past like you were always i've said this with colt on the radio like hoagie's a streaky player man like he might miss a few cuts in a row and then he might rattle off three weeks straight like once he gets going he's really going but if you look at your year this year it's been a lot more level a lot fewer miscuts and you just seem to be figuring out what about your game is better now that's allowed you to play more weekends even when you don't have your best stuff. I wish I had a good answer for you, but I would probably just say that everything's gotten a little bit better. And it hasn't been one huge step forward in any area, but I would say everything's just kind of got a little bit

better. And, you know, and then throw on top of that that I feel like I'm pretty experienced in a lot of these bigger tournaments now. And I just feel like I've got a lot more comfortable playing in those. You know, I've qualified for a few U.S. opens early on in my career. I felt like I always showed up there and wanted to play 18 holes every day and then go beat balls forever and get all the practice in. And by the time we got to the tournament, I was always worn out. And, you know, now my approach is kind of just play nine holes each day. And I don't want to say treat it like a normal tour event because it's not. But I feel like I don't have to do anything extra or special those weeks.

That makes sense that I can just go out and play and not have to build it up to something that it's really not. And, you know, it's worked for me. I've been playing well. and I'm just trying to kind of ride this out as long as I can, to be honest with you. Yeah, Ryan, with your iron, I mean, with your iron game, in my opinion, I mean, it should set up well for U.S. opens, for open championships. I mean, all the majors, honestly. And you're one of the best iron players on the PGA tour.

Yeah, and I felt like that's always been a strength of mine. And I would say, you know, I've worked with Scott Hamilton now for four or five years. And, you know, he's been known for helping guys drive a little bit straighter. And so that's been improving for me. I would say, you know, that's probably been the biggest improvement I've made in my time on on tour now for eight years. I've driven it a lot better. And that gives me a few more chances from the fairways, you know, to kind of play to my strength. And like I said earlier in the show, Hogg, your ninth in the President's Cup standings as it stands right now as we get closer to this thing.

Are you keeping tabs on that? Are you adjusting your schedule this summer to possibly try to make a push to make that or stay on that team and make that team? Or do you just kind of say, I'm going to do my thing and let the chips fall where they may? Yeah, to be honest, I don't look at it a whole lot just because I know that, you know, there's so many great players on our U.S. team. You look at that last Rider Cup team and then, you know, throwing some of the other great players that weren't on those teams. But, you know, guys are playing great every week. And if I want to, if I want to have a chance at this team, I've got to have, you know, multiple high finishes here to close out the year. I've always been a guy that's played a lot and my schedule's going to be pretty busy here to close out the year. So I'll certainly play plenty of

weeks to give myself enough chances. And I've just got to keep playing well. Yeah, it's been a hell of a run. And I know you can continue it. and try to make your way under that team. But I think it's time to get to the E-9s, Lee's. I got a couple of E-9s lined up. I got a couple E-9s lined up for the hog. He might do all nine of them for us. Believe it or not, it was tough to limit these.

It was tough to limit these bitches down to only a few for the guy, you know? All right. Well, here we go. As you know, Hogi, we asked this to everyone. You can trade lives with anyone, dead or live for a day. Who's it going to be? Gosh, darned. I choked on this one because I listened to your guys show a lot and I didn't prep at all and think about who it would be.

Oh, shoot. That's TCU, baby. Last minute. Billy Walters pre-prison. Well, I was just thinking Billy Walters would be an interesting guy, but I don't know if I can admit to that one. You got to do a little time. Don't pick the time when you're in the clink. You know what I mean?

Pick one of the higher. Phil Nicholson would also be an interesting guy right now, but I'm not sure I want to go on that road either. But just to see where the heck he's at would be an interesting one. Man. I'm curious by this. I can, well, I'll go with Michael Jordan. He's got a good mix of, you know, the basketball, gambling, uh, golf now. He's got a little bit of everything going on there.

That's a good default answer. But when you mix in the gambling portion, it makes more, it makes more sense for you. I thought I might say one of the dudes on like the MIT black deck team or something like that. Jeff Ma. Yeah, that'll be a good one. All right, Jordan's a good one. All right. I'm going to need this from you right here.

I know you got this inside of you, so just pull it out right here for the pod. I need you to give your best Bill Montagale impression after the final hole of regionals at Carson Creek. That's what I need from you. I've heard it. I've heard it.

It's just me and you right now. Bring it out. All right, so I'll set this up a little bit. We were driving up from Fort Worth to Oklahoma State. I was reading an article in Golf Week or wherever it was about, I forget the team,

but a player made like a 12 and the last hole for his team to miss at regional by like one. So that was the lead into the week and Eno Moni go, oh my God, can you believe it? He was having a heck of a time with that story. So when we get up there, I was playing

well. Our team was starting the final round in sixth place. It was my sophomore year. And I think I shot 73 of the first two rounds. I was playing well. So I was our last guy. And I was the last guy on the golf course on the ninth hole at Carston Creek. Just a brutal golf course. The wind's blowing 20. Both sides are shit down both sides.

And of course, I pull it 20 yards into the trees on the left. And it's knee-high weeds and everything. So I hit a provisional right down the fairway. And our golf coach, I mean, he can play all 54 holes and never see him on the golf course. I mean, that's the way most tournaments are. But sure enough, he's running back, running back down the fairway to find me. And he's like, Hoggy, we just got to make a triple here. You make a triple. We're in. I'm like, okay, coach. I'm like, let's just leave that ball in the shit out there and I'll go play the provisional and we'll be fine. But sure enough, I think it was Baylor's coaches like comes running out of the woods that he found it. Of course, Baylor. So now we're, or we're in the dark in the woods. And coach's like,

hoagie, just go back to the tea, take it unplayable. We'll be fine. Just hit the next one. I'm like, coach, I am not going back to the T to have to hit this thing again, knowing that now I've got to make a par basically in order for us to advance. And I'm like, just stand back. I'll just swing as hard as I can in these weeds here, and it's got to come out somewhere. So I take a mighty swing, and it probably gets maybe three yards from the edge of the shit. Now, I'm still in the crap, and coach is really losing his mind.

Hogi, are you kidding me, Hogi? You're going to blow up this. Just having a meltdown. But I was like, coach, just give me some space. I ended up chopping the thing. It's so accurate. Chopping the thing out for three. I think I made a nice double boge.

We made it by a shot or two to NCAAs. But that was kind of my only experience on the golf course with coach in my four years. And I thought he was going to have a heart attack out there, watch me play that last hole. That's the only time I've ever heard him be on the course, like saying what you should do, like in terms of playing golf, too. You know what I mean? He never's out there.

He had the sunglasses that he had pulled down way in his nose. and he's looking at his phone for golf stat for the scores the whole way down. We just need an eight. I wouldn't have brought it up if you hadn't gotten through, by the way, but just the Bill Montagall running on the golf course, that's a feather in your cap because you're the only dude that ever got him running on a golf course in his life. So props to you.

Exactly. Yeah. All right. Next one. Take yourself out of the mix. Biggest gambler on the BGA tour, not dollars-wise, just two has the advantage. addiction that's got to be at the casino all the time all the time.

Grayson Murray. Oh, wow. Good one. Yeah. Matt Everry's a good buddy of mine. He might be up there as well. He's a bad influence in my life for sure. You better hope he doesn't get a broadcasting gig full time.

He'll be out there all the time with you. Yeah, exactly. And you're going to have to get that wife. You have to get Kelly to loosen up a little bit, which leads me to my next question. There's a nickname. I think you made it or maybe somebody else made it, but you got a nickname for your wife. Can you tell us what it is and why?

Well, it's usually the parole officer, the probation officer. That can transition to the warden when I'm starting to talk about my appeal process. The warden. Yeah, I mean, I've been known to go into probation for a few months at a time after some bad trips out there. But all it takes is one good week on the golf course, and that makes the appeal a little bit easier. that expedites that appeal process. She'll also like regulate fans out on the,

like they're making too much noise while you're over the ball. She'll crack them, won't she? She's not afraid to tell them to shut up. No, that's good. That's a good thing to have. I heard they also call her MOD. Is it manager on duty or something? Because she's always like handling all your shit for you.

Yeah. She handles my dirty work. She's great. She's real supportive. But yeah, MOD, manager on duty. That's, that's another nickname. She's got, hey, she's got a lot of roles. the fill and she does it well. Yes.

You PCU boys need to be babysat. That's for sure. Hey, that's right. We're a special breed. All right. What hurts more? A miscut on tour or SMU winning the Battle of the Iron Skillet again. Oh, God. Shoot myself. I mean, there were so many years in there, you didn't even have to watch the game because you knew what the outcome was going to be.

Things change, Mox. Well, we'll see. We got your coach now. We'll see what happens this year. Perfect. That was actually the perfect lead-in for the next question, Tom. If an alien, say, were to come down from outer space, and you had to explain to them why TCU is so much better than SMU, how would you explain it?

They don't know anything about either school. You got to break it down. Well, I mean, we got the better football team, better basketball team. Chicks. Basketball. Interesting. Chicks. Oh, this year.

Well, yeah. Smarter. What? Nicer, better campus. What else is there? You're covering it pretty well. I'm trying to think of that. I mean, to be honest,

SMU's been such as, it's almost like a high school in the last few years with a football team in a situation that I haven't really paid that much attention to them. Yes. Well, this is so.

I can help you out if you want me to get the scores from the iron skill at the last two years if you'd like me to pull that up. Recency bias. Throw it out. Well, yeah. Our sites are more set on Texas and Baylor as our new rivals, not so much SMU. You know, they're competing with Highland Park and some other places.

Highland Park. All right. Nice, Tommy. Nice. We once had Billy Horshiel on this show right here called Golf Subpar, and I asked him because, you know, he's the fashion guru of the PGA tour. I said, who's the worst for us guy on the PGA tour? and he happened to mention Tom Hogi.

Give me your thoughts on that. I'm glad you brought this up, actually. That's great because I'm playing with Billy tomorrow, so I have to bring that one up to him. I don't know if you remember this, but at Pebble, the year before last, I'm walking across the first fairway here in the last group of Jordan, and you look at me and you go,

fuck you, by the way. And I was like, what? He goes, I heard what Billy said about me on your podcast. I was like, I didn't say it. Why are you mad at me? It's about awful, dude. I guess my stance would be there's a lot worse dressed golfers, because I would just consider myself very conservative middle of the road.

So I can't be that bad. I mean, I'll say you've gotten a lot better. Dude, you've gotten, it used to be khaki on khaki on khaki. And I think we made fun of you at the dry heave for it one year or two. And your boy, Jordan Wolf was like, dude, Hogi came back. He's like, do I really dress like shit? What's the deal with all this? It's like, you got more khaki than the military, dog.

It's all cocky. Now you're, you've tightened up a lot on the wardrobe, dude. Hey, I'll take some heat for that day at Pebble Beach because you guys were ragging on me on air about wearing black vest with Navy. But all I cared about that day was being warm enough to and being able to swing enough

to play good golf. So I don't really give a shit when I looked like that day. I'll let that slide. And that shit worked too, by the way. That could be your Sunday Red. I actually, hey,

I did have a funny story with Tiger, not to go off a side note, but we were playing at Tori Pines, the second time I played with him on Sunday at Tori. It was kind of a cold day. Like it was probably upper 50s. And I hate wearing jackets and whatever when I'm playing. Just because I feel like I don't have good mobility to turn and whatnot.

So I went out there in short sleeves. And finally on about the sixth or seventh. You know, he's got the nice red cashmere sweater and everything on. Finally about the, I think it's whole seven, we're walking on the fairway. And he looks at me. He's like, aren't you cold out here? I'm like, yeah, man, I'm freezing my ass off. But I don't get the good cashmere like you get like foot joy.

I mean, I take whatever I get and I hate wearing their stuff. So I just suck it up here. I'm freezing my ass off. That's great. Yeah, I got Pima Cotton, bro. I don't get the cashmere. Yeah, people bring you. People bring you out fresh clothes on the next hole.

Yeah, with a tailor. Just fit that shit for you. Yeah, if you want to let me borrow that red cashmere, I'll be happy to wear it. Yeah, let me get that. Let me get that jacket real quick, bro. You got plenty of them. All right, I got one here for you. This is a random.

This is just a shot in the dark. You probably have no, you know, chance of getting this right. But just off the time. top of your head. Do you happen to know the last highway exit in the state of Texas on the way from Fort Worth to the Windstar Casino? Just random. Just kind of. I do.

504. It was a great bet. Once again, Jordan Wolf, we were in the car. Somewhere around Denton, probably. Shit, Colts should know the answer to this question as well. Yeah, he knows it. Yeah, he knows it. But yeah, that was

some good seed money for the blackjack table that I won off of Jordan by knowing that it was 504 before it rolls over to one for the windstar exit. Yeah. 504 and the next one, Thackerville. He made the bet and George, like he thought it was just Jordan so dumb. He thought it was just random. I was like, of course he's going to know the frick.

You could probably win that bet the next 10 times with Jordan too. He probably probably doesn't remember that you got him on it. Oh, yeah, for sure. I love him. All right. Shout out, Jordan. My last one. What was more nerve-wracking playing in the final group with Tiger on a Saturday

or trying to fill the massive shoes of your childhood idol Sleaves at TCU. Good question, Colt. Good question. You know, I just missed Sleaves at TCU and I heard all the stories about them. So I felt a little bit left out for sure. We got to go. We're on a time crunch right now. So we got to button this shit up quick, bro.

The funny part is none of these stories ever involved anything on the golf course, though. That's because I didn't do shit. Yeah, he finished 32nd at Texas tournament one year. That was pretty cool. What was Sleez's reputation at TCU? Like, what would you hear? Oh, God.

Hogie, think, think deeply on this answer. He was the mentor for all the young guys, molded their futures into such great young men that they are. This is such bullshit. That's good, that's good. That's the way I tried to carry myself, Dude, is just someone like a role model more than anything, you know, just to pave the way. There were some good stories, you know, some run-ins with the stars of the football team and whatnot.

All right, now we for sure got to go, Don't know that one? That's so far in the vault. That's with my rap album from Seaforth in the fall. That's great. That's a perfect way to end it right there, man. We really appreciate you taking the time and joining us. enjoyed it guys we'll see it the iron

skillet this fall uh you got it bud keep up the great play fun to watch bro all right well that was the legend from tc u tom hoagie join us here what a beauty he is the man likes some action cannot get to the casino fast enough i love his nicknames for his wife though the warden yeah manager on duty yeah she runs that shit

but if you get out there and you're watching hoagie you're making a little too much noise while my man's getting ready to hit uh perish the thought She's going to have that ass. How about my guy? When you're on the Jicks, you don't have a lot of money, you've got to be price lining hotels, word of mouth, hey, where you stand? Oh, it's only 90 bucks. Cool.

You show up and you got a little strip club feature down at the bottom. That never happened to me in Canada. I'm a little pissed off. I missed that spot on it. Yeah, no kidding. I hope it's still there. God, it's got to check it out. Could a place like a hotel slash strip club?

You think that can go out of business? That's recession proof. Yeah. But how cool. I mean, gets to play 2015 in the final group with Tiger Woods. Place was going absolutely insane. Battles Jordan Speeth for his first PJ Tour, we're going at Pebble Beach. I mean, it's been, things are trending in a very nice direction

for Tom Hogie. Yeah, back-to-back duels with Jordan's faith at Pebble Beach. I mean, he's been that thing two times. And he's just the guy that look at it year after year. Like we said, it used to be like you'd see some flashes of great golf and then some miscuts. And then some miscuts. And then some more good golf and then some miscuts. Now it's like leveling out. It's like good golf, good golf. Okay, occasional miscut. He's just playing the weekends. His bad golf is better than it's ever been before. And his good golf's gotten really good. One on the PJ Tour. And like I said, he's fighting for a president's cup spot, which that team I mean, it's beyond, beyond loaded.

Yeah, he's doing much better than TCU is against SMU and football, just in case you forgot about that. We just stole your coach. It's fine. I mean, like I said, it's not even an issue for us. We're like, oh, yeah, who do we play this week? A little JV squad. We got to get ready for taxes and those type of deals. Sometimes that just kind of slips through the cracks.

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Let's focus on the Canadian Open. Scotty Sheffler's in the field. Justin Thomas in the field. It's one of the oldest events on that, I believe, the third oldest event on the PGA tour. We came close last week with some of our bets, and then they absolutely collapsed. The Sunday scary.

Yeah. It was not a Sunday, Sunday. I was expecting buzz. Somebody's for sure going to win. Probably both of these things are going to cash, and then, yeah. All right, well, let's get to it. For my favorite this week, the Canadian Open, okay? A Canadian has not won the Canadian Open in 68 years.

1954, Pat Fletcher. I think the time has come for that to change. I like where you're going with this. Talk to me. The highest rate Canadian in the field, your guy. Cory Connors going off at 20 to 1. I love him this way. He's a ball striking machine.

He just gets the putter. The only thing that makes me nervous is there's all that talk about how long it's been for a since a Canadian. Every time one of them gets up there in contention, it's a lot of pressure. It is. It's it. But it's changing. Cory Connors, let's go.

Never, never will you get an argument when the name Cory Conner's just say yes, cash that ticket? That would be actually happy even though I'm not picking him if Cory Conner's got it done. I'm going to go around the same odds. I'm staying away from the top top. guys, odds are pretty thin. Going with a guy. It's going off at 24 to 1.

He's playing his best golf of the year, arguably. He's coming off his consecutive top tens for the first time of this season. Putter is starting to work. The ball striking has never really been an issue. I'm going with Tony Fee now, trending right now. Is he? Yeah. Is he not?

I mean, it's getting better. Two top tens in a row. I mean, that's the first time in the season. It was crazy. Backdoor top 10 at Colonial. Yeah, back doors. They still count. Sunday still counts, as we just found out.

but starting to play 24 to 1 for a guy like Tony who seems to be kind of rounded in the form right now. The putters look good the last couple times out. I think that's a pretty juicy little bet for Tone. Hey, I'm fine with it. I love Tony Fee now. He is due to turn this thing around and start getting in contention a lot more

because it's been quite a bit of struggle. Speaking of struggle, my dark horse on Sunday. We just had a bad Sunday. Everything just wasn't good, but it's okay. It's a new week. Yeah, forget about that quick. So my dark horse going off at 50 to 1, He won the Canadian Open in 2016 and 2017.

I know it was at a different golf course, but he loves Canada. He was playing really well last week until a final round, 81. 80s were prevalent on Sunday out there, a jack spot. But Johnny Vegas, he loves it up there, 50 to 1. I love those odds. I'm ignoring the 9 over 81 on Sunday. It doesn't matter. He's going to play well in Canada.

Be a goldfish. When you shoot 80s, you got to be a goldfish. You just scrapped out right away. 80s, like I said, a lot of great players shooting in the 80s on Sunday. I'm going to stay around that same range. terms of odds. I'm going 42 to 1. I've talked with this guy a little bit on here, but he's starting to go a little bit. My guy. Sahith. Sahith the gala. I don't even know his name. Sahith, but we call him Sahith. When you see him out there, one of the best short games,

it's unbelievable. It's spectacular. He drives the ball really crooked most of the time. He's dead last in accuracy for a long time, but when it clicks, he's pretty damn good because everything else is good is just can he keep it playable off the tee. But I mean, he doesn't hold much back. He just got his fourth top 10 in the year. He's kind of close a couple times. Close calls at Phoenix, finished third out there was right there on the 71st hole, close to the Sanderson Falls before a little back ninefold down there earlier in the year. If he hits that driver straight,

which you can't get around Muirfield without driving it, you can't finish top 10 out there without driving it pretty good. Those fairways are pretty big, though. I'm going to go with the hit. I like it. You're looking for a dark horse. He's fun to watch, man. He hits cool shots too, moves it around,

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