Subpar - Tony Finau Interview: Catching his big break and playing with Tiger at the Masters

Episode Date: April 7, 2020

On this week's episode, PGA Tour Winner Tony Finau joins former PGA Tour pro Colt Knost and his close friend and on course rival Drew Stoltz for an exclusive, in-studio interview. The guys dive into Tony's background including his breakthrough as a pro golfer and his chances to lock in another Tour win.

Hello world. Welcome to this week's episode of Golf Subpar. I am Colt Nost. As always, joined by the sleazy man Drew Stoltz, Drew. Drew, another big episode in store this week. Yes, Colty, good to be in the building with you, even though it's not our typical studio set up here. We're in quarantine situation. Coming to you live via audio, good to be with you. And yes, you hit the nail on the head. Very big interview this week with a very big fella, the main man, Tony Fienow in the studio. Great interview, dude. Yeah, he's an awesome dude. I can't wait for you all to listen to what he had to say. One of the up-and-coming superstars, for sure, on the PGA tour.

I mean, honestly, it's hard to say that he's actually underachieved in his career so far with only, I mean, he only has one PJ Tour win, but, I mean, the sky is the limit for this guy. Yeah, he's one of those guys. It's easy to say because, like, people are always like, oh, he's going to win a bunch of times, but I really truly believe he will. Once he kind of figures out the formula and gets one or two of these things more, I think that the lid pops off of this thing. But really cool talking with him.

A lot of people know about his background coming from Salt Lake and stuff like that, but like how he turned pro and how he chose to turn pro and forego college and all that stuff. Getting into that was some of the most interesting stuff I thought that we've had so far. Yeah, at the event he decided to turn pro, you'll get to hear all about it. We need more of that. Yeah. Just a little preview, we need more of what the reason why he turned pro. Yes, that needs to be returned to the golf world.

But you are going to enjoy this interview. But other news in the golf world right now, Sleazy, big mix up in the schedule with all the coronavirus things happening right now. The golf world, like all the other sports, really not sure what's going to happen. But as of this week, we have been announced that there has been some scheduling change. Bring us what we got. Yes. Actually, this is exciting. First actual real golf news that's been positive in a long time.

So here's what we got. Been a bit of a schedule shakeup here. So as things have been laid out for us today, here's how it stands. PJ Championship now moving from August 9th, I'm sorry, August 3rd through 9th, going to remain at Harding Park. So that'll lead off the major role. Right after that, go straight. into the FedEx Cup playoffs. They go for four straight weeks starting August 10th, the Wyndham Championship

and ending at the Tour Championship in Eastlake there. So that's going to be that I'll end September 7th. So four straight weeks of the FedEx Cup playoffs. U.S. Open moving to September 14th through 20th. Colt, big news, remaining at Wingfoot as it stands right now. Huge news. I think I really wanted that thing to stay up there. I think that'll be a great test. Immediately following that, Ryder Cup, September 22 through 27 at Whistling Straits. And then last but not least, coming in November 9 through 15, the granddaddy of them all, the Masters, is scheduled to be played in 2020. Thank the heavens. Yeah, hopefully everything gets taken care of and all this can happen. The one big event missing from that, the Open Championship is canceled. Will not happen in 2020.

We'll remain at Royal St. George's in 2021. If all goes right. So hopefully. This is alternative. This is alternative. Hopefully this works. It's good news. It's a lot of big golf in a short amount of time. But you know what? It's better than no golf at all.

It's exciting. I mean, how good are the weekend's going to be? You're going to have a ton of, hopefully, hopefully a ton of football and then a ton of golf as well. How about this November during Masters week? You could just be watching your favorite college football team play on the weekend. Next day, flip over. Oh, maybe I'll catch a little final round of Augusta. Oh, what's that?

Oh, my favorite NFL team is playing after that. I mean, there's going to be too much on to even watch, but there's going to be about a hundred straight days of eight of the biggest tournaments of the year in golf. So, buckle up. If they would have given us this news a week ago, I think every and said, hey, this is an option. I think the whole world would have signed off on it. For sure. I'm very much looking forward to it. And I'll tell you what else I'm looking forward to, Sleese. Right here on golf.com, a pod unlike any other. They revisit the 2010 Masters where Phil Mickelson was victorious, hit the amazing straw. Hit the amazing shot from the pine straw at 13.

What else happened that week, Sleazy? Culty, the man, the myth, the legend happened that week. and that is none other than Anthony Kim coming in with a little record setting 11 tweeters that day at Augusta. Not a bad day for the young phenom. If anyone out there knows where Anthony is, please contact us because he is the white well. We've said that many times. We would fly to the moon to talk to Anthony Kim. But make sure you check out a pod unlike any other on golf.com. But for right now, check out Tony Fenow here on Golf Subpar. All right, y'all know our next guest here on Golf Subpar. He is a PGA Tour winner, member of the United States Presidents Cup team, member of the United States Rider Cup team,

and not to mention runner-up on the golf channels The Big Break in 2009. Tony Fienow, welcome to the program. What's up? Thanks for joining this, Tone. Thank you guys. That runner-up at the Big Break doesn't get enough love, dude. I feel like that was where it all started. I'll tell you what.

I'm probably still more recognized for that than anything else I've achieved. That's actually one of my questions. I don't want to know what it was like. being on the big break and first of you. How did you get on the big break? It was a lot of fun. Well, my brother and I were kind of known

for the long ball growing up. And so we were actually playing a gateway tour event here in Arizona. And I was playing over at Talking Stick and they happened to be on the range, on the driving range. And everybody, all these dudes, I had no idea what Big Break was.

This was in 2009. All these dudes were going over there, auditioning. And so my dad decided to walk over and see what it was all about. And we ended up auditioning. Didn't think anything of it. Three weeks later,

We both are in Hawaii playing another tournament, and we got a phone call like, hey, we'd love to have you guys on our big break if you guys wanted to be on. So that's kind of how it happened. We were at a golf tournament. We were at a gateway tour event, mini tour event playing, and they just happened to be on the range. So it was just more coincident. So what did they have you do to audition? Anything else? We hit two shots.

You hit a driver and a five iron. They asked you a list of questions, and you just answer basically an interview. It was about a two or three minute interview. And that was it. Yeah, that's all they. Two swings. That's it. Two swings.

can move it and if you have any personality. Exactly. I remember those tryouts. They're all over the main tours. I can't believe you never tried it. I know. I was camera shy, dude. I said, I can't.

They need to be ready. They need to bring big big big big break back. They do need to bring back. That was actually a fun thing to watch. And some guys have gone on to have success. Like obviously you probably the biggest success story. Yeah. Did you lose to Mike Perez?

You ever see Mikey anymore? Bring that up? I mean, that's his claim to fame right now. Of course. But he's selling cars over at right Toyota. And he tells everybody like, man. Back in the day, that's right. We had a good time.

I'll tell you what, it was a lot of fun to be on that show. And it taught me a lot about, like, reality TV and how they record things. And I was 19 years old. My brother was 18 on the show. So it was kind of cool. Just getting, you know, getting in front of cameras and learning about that whole part of playing the game. It was way different. You know, I think when we grow up as kids, it's like, we just want to golf.

We don't know actually what it entails. It's like, we just love playing golf. That was kind of my first taste of, like, TV, you know, being around cameras, having, you know, having that type of attention on you. So that was kind of cool for me. You ever think how your life would have shaken out if you just won that thing? You know what I mean? You actually, you might have made something of yourself in the golf world.

Yeah, you're right. Yeah, I wish I would have won. Yeah, exactly. It still stings, actually, that I lost to Mikey, you know. That's funny. Never get over that. I want to go back a little bit before that. So you turn pro at 17.

That's right. Mostly because of the ultimate game. Yeah. And you know, I'm a big Las Vegas fan. You sure are. I want to hear all about this ultimate game. Because I'm kind of, I think they need to bring it back. Yeah.

So I was in high school. I verbally committed to play college golf at BYU. My dad was approached by a guy that wanted to sponsor my brother and I in this tournament. It was a $50,000 buy-in. And at the end of it, if you were the winner, you win $2 million. We knew this going in, but I didn't think I actually had a chance to win. I was 17 years old playing against all these pros. I was like, there's no way I was going to be the best one there.

I go in, I win my first two matches, match play. So how many guys start? 40 guys start. Okay. 40 all put up 50 grand. 40, all put up 50 grand. Two match play rounds. If you win your two matches, you're automatically into the final.

Is it just like blind draw? Blind draw. No seating or nothing. They, you know, blind draw. So who did you play? Do you remember? I played Rick, Rick Groden, which was a baseball player. Yeah.

And a baseball pitcher. Yeah. And I forget the other guy I played, but both kind of older guys. and I beat both of them by whole 16. Question real quick. Isn't one of the rules, the parameters of this thing? Like, you could never have never been on the PJ or a web.com tour card or a senior PJTor car? At the time.

So like only mini tour guys and guys that you want to try for glory. Exactly. Many tour guys. So yeah, the credentials where you cannot play on the PJA tour cannot have played on the web.com. Or the corn fairy tour. Right, right. So that's why. And the crazy thing is I look back now.

So I was one of the 12 guys that qualified. I won my first two matches. And so I had to make a decision at this time. Am I going to take because winner take all, but just for getting to the finale, you get 100 grand. So you get double your money back if you even get to the finale. So I was here at the finale and now I'm faced with the choice. Am I going to turn pro or am I going to go play college golf at BYU? I basically have a meeting with my parents.

You know, we all sit down. And again, I come from very humble beginnings, right? Not a lot of money. Didn't have the money to travel, all those type of things. So I basically tell my parents, look, I think I'm definitely leaning towards playing college. This is a cool opportunity, but I don't think this is the right one. My parents looked me square in the eyes and they said, son, you got a chance to win $2 million, you're playing.

Wow, they made the decision for you. They made the decision for me. So that's kind of how I went down, honestly. It was maybe a 20-minute meeting. And like I said, I told them the path I wanted to take. And they said, well, no, this is the path you're going to take. So it ended up working out. But, you know, I listened to my parents on that one and I tried my hand at the professional game.

So what happened the rest of the ultimate game? So you make it to the finale. How many guys? And what's that format? 12, 36 whole stroke play. Low guy takes it all. Low guy takes it all. Yep.

We're at the win. That's nervous for 17-year-old. Yeah, I think I finished in the middle of the pack. I think I finished seventh or eighth place. But I only end up losing by, I think, four or five shots. It was quite a tight leaderboard. But to give you an idea of the guys that played in this, and this was before all of us were on tour, Scott Piercy won,

Kevin Struman played Spencer Levine Myself And I'm missing one Missing one But there was five of us The tour guy No one of the tour guy

There was five of us out of the 12 That played in this That are now on tour And successful PJ tour players So that's kind of cool That we all ended up playing And we ended up making it You know

And so I kind of have that relationship With these guys on tour As kind of our You know we all kind of started together So it was kind of cool to have that come out They have to bring that back Why is that not a for two millions Billion put that on TV?

You think people wouldn't watch that? Gravian and Slee's invitation. We needed an automatic invite free of charge. Will you sponsor it? Presented by Tony Fianna. Talk to me about 10 years. Yeah, exactly. Yo, there's a story that floats around from that deal.

It's like you were on the first T, 17-year-old kid. Yeah. You know, you kind of had some buzz around Utah. People knew who you were and things like that. You're on the first tee. Lee Trevino is there kind of like endorsing this event, right? Yes, he was. A 420-yard par four.

The word on the street is you drove the green on the first tee. 420 and Trevino looked over like, are you out of your mind? Who is this kid? And basically at that point, he kind of helped you after the event, like get some endorsements, some sponsors. Is that all, is that correct? It's 100% true. So I get up to the first T's the first time I ever met Lee Trevino and I introduced myself and he said, yeah, I've heard all about you, kid. You know, I'm looking forward to watching you hit, which is, yeah, it was extremely cool for me. I get on the tea and, you know, obviously I'm nervous, but I let one rips, 420 yards, and then I send it, you know, I damn near fly it to the front edge of the green and it trickles around

to the front of the green. And I just remember looking over at Lee and he just gave me that look like, ooh, I don't think I ever seen anything like that. So it was quite cool to get that kind of that nod from him early in my career. But he ended up helping me get a deal with Calloway. He was with Calloway at the time and he gave Calloway a shout and said, hey, I think it would be in your best interest, Calloway, to help my brother and I on their way in their professional careers. So that's kind of what happened. Calloway was able to set some things up for my brother and I for the next few years and he helped with that sponsorship. So he was a huge part in just financially helping me early on in my career. Looking back, obviously, you're having tons of success

now on the PJ tour. Would you wish you still went to college to maybe experience it? Obviously, you're happy with the road. But is there part of you that maybe says, oh, college would have been pretty cool? Yeah, there's always a part of me. that thinks that, that thinks, you know, hey, what if I would have went to college and things? But I don't think, you know, college was that much for me. Just, you know, with my personality and looking back now, you know, I, you know, I'm not really like a party guy in, and I'm not really like a, you know, I don't drink, you know, I don't smoke any of those things that are super attractive in the college life. I wasn't all about. And so, you know, I do, you know, look back and

think, man, what if I would have been in a different position now or would I have been been better. And I don't know if the answer is yes. I think I think I chose the right road for me. It worked out. It ended up working out. It ended up working out. I think I think I'm doing all right. Yeah. Well, you are the father of four. That's right. So let's let's look to the future a little bit. Your oldest son. Yeah. Is faced with the same opportunity. Yeah. What's Papa, Papa Tony say? Yeah, he's going to college. Okay, perfect. He's 100% going to college. Just to experience that. Never have to scratch that it for him. And, uh, even if he was way better than I was at that age.

And, you know, I was a great golfer, but at 17, I wasn't ready for the pro game. And it took me six years to get ready for the pro game at the highest level. And when I got here, I knew I was ready, but it did take me those grooming years to get through. And would college golf give me that opportunity or not? You know, I would have still liked to experience it, and I definitely would, if I was in my shoes again, it was a tough road. You know, and it's a reason why it's the road less traveled, you know, on the people. PGA tour. Not a lot of guys took that same route that I took. But it's, you know, you got to, I think you got to have some tough skin and some thick skin to get through some of those times.

Yeah, you know, your path, I mean, kind of like Justin Rose term pro very early after success at the open championship and he goes out and misses like his first 22 cuts. I mean, and you didn't have success right away either. Like that shows how tough you are. Like you said, you have thick skin. I mean, there's a lot of guys that probably would have beat them down a little bit and said maybe this game isn't quite for me. But you, I mean, you've gone through it. Now you're ranked 16th in the world. Currently at the moment, it's unbelievable. No, thanks.

That's where, that's actually where we first, we first met. I played so much miniature golf. Yes. Talk about it. The first time, the first time I ever met Stolte, he was out, you know, trying his hand at a professional game. And, man, I took a liking to this guy right away. I mean, I guess what's not the like, you know, good looking dude can golf.

So, hey, I'm not seeing your phrase. I'm just saying, you know, straight up, this is my dude. So we have some good times. We're kind of known as the crew guys, you know, both wearing crew socks all the time. Yeah, we brought that back, by the way. I think we did. Thank you. I officially do think we did.

So that's where actually I first met Stolte and, you know, we chocked it up. We played a lot of golf together. We shot a lot of low numbers together. I built his confidence a lot, man. You know what I mean? I let him beat me a lot of times. I said, this kid's destined for a great thing. Let's get into that because you just mentioned like you went to Q school, what, six times?

Yeah, that's right. I was in the same boat. But you and I, I'll tell you this right now. I don't even know if I've ever said this to you. But you and I, like you mentioned, we played tons of many tour rounds together, right? going through all the stuff that people do that a lot of people probably don't even know that you did but behind closed doors like when i was with other guys like outside of you the common like conversation we had was like you know when's tony going to think like everybody knew basically that we were like

when they were playing against you like as soon as it clicks with this kid like it's a rap like he can do things that none of us can do he's got more talent than every single person out there and as soon as this hits like everybody kind of could see the writing on the wall like this kid's messing for big stuff when you were playing those mini tour events at the time did you ever do ever like look around like why am I like I'm better than these dudes like I have more talent than these guys why am I still here? Did it register like at that time? Not man not really just because how humbling Q school was right to me it was just like Q school was the ultimate ultimate challenge and never was able to get through it

so to me it was just like I am where I belong I until I prove that I can play at that level and and get through qualifying school these are the necessary steps that it takes so you know I was humble enough to have that I my dad was was in my corner telling me, hey, we just got to get better. And that was the bottom line for me. I never was discouraged during those years because I just knew I needed to get better, but I knew that I had what it took. I continued to prove that I could win at the mini tour level. And when I got on the web, I won on the web and got on tour and won on tour. So I never doubted that I could do it. And I think that's a huge part for me. It's just the belief that I had

that I had the right people around me to support, but I believe that I could do it, even even through those tough years. You know, at the, at the early on in your career, what, what do you think was holding you back the most? I mean, obviously, you hit it far. That's obviously not a problem. But what part of your game was holding you back the most to get to that next level, to get to the web.com?

Oh, yeah. It was distance, distance control. I hit it so far that I did not know how to control a nine iron down. No idea what that's like. No, yeah. Yeah, but it was like, I hit it like outrageously far. Weird far. You know, my numbers were with my driver in the mid, mid, mid to low one 90s.

on average. You know, like I was hitting it just crazy far. So I had to learn how to control my distance. And that's the things, you know, the guys on the PJA, too, are so good at, you know, like you, for instance, right? 125 yards, you know how to hit it 125 yards. I didn't know, I could hit it 125 yards with my lob wedge. And if I had a pitching wedge, I wouldn't know how to hit it. I wouldn't know how to take yardage off. So I think learning the knockdown shot, learning how to take yardage off of a club was something that I always struggled with. because of how hard I always hit the golf ball. That's all I learned.

When I was a kid, I just hit it as hard as I could. When I found it, you know, I had some decent hands, chipping putt. But to me, I've always been a great, you know, chipper and putter. But figuring out how to hit it close from 150 and in was always a challenge for me. And that's something that I continue to work on, but I've gotten so much better at. And you're still one of the longest dudes on the PJ tour, but like knowing you back when you were younger and you just sent it on every single hole, how much more do you think is in the, if you just, if I just said hit it as hard as you possibly can, How much more do you have in the tank right now?

Like how far could you hit it if you wanted to? Well, with a normal link driver, just within the last 12 months, I've gotten to 138 clubhead speed. Which is... Dude, it's like, it was... It was about two... Two-o-one ball speed just within the last 12 months. And I think that took like six or seven balls. That's nuts.

So I could get it. I could get it probably close to 140 with a normal driver. If we were to get me a longer one, it would take me a few swings prior to get a little higher. Do you ever do that in a real tour event? No. I'm sending it. I send it, but not quite to that. Not like that.

You know, I would say I probably get in the low one 30s. But, you know, I have the luxury of having speed on my side. I've always had it. I'm built taller, longer. I know where my speed comes from. So that's a luxury. But it's also in Achilles' heel when you're trying to hit a knockdown shot. And that's why there's so much talk about it.

Everybody wants to hit it further. Everybody, everybody's trained to hit it further. How can I get speed? All these different things. But what people don't understand is, you can only hit it so far and hit it straight. You can only hit it so hard and hit it. Your mechanics can be perfect, but if you're swinging at 140 miles an hour, I promise you, when you hit two shots, none of them are going to go the same direction. So you have to learn how to hone it in.

And I think, you know, somebody like Cameron Champ, who hits it extremely far and has an amazing game, is learning how to do. You know, guys get on tour, nobody gets, nobody gets longer. Everybody gets, at least the long guys, at least the long guys. Yeah. Yeah, maybe somebody like, you know, somebody like that, they can potentially get hit it further. But none of the guys like me, Gary Woodland, we got so much more in the tank. Like it's not even close. We have so much in the tank. But it's like we know we can't play at that speed.

How am I going to go from hitting a 138 mile an hour driver? And then I have a 75-yard pitch shot. You know how amped up I am just from hitting that drive? There is no way I can hit a 75-yard pitch shot after that. And I'm speaking from experience. You know, I'm not making this stuff up, you know? So that's why, to me, you're only going to be able to hit it so far in the game of golf. You know, everybody's talking about, well, it's going to be bigger, faster, stronger.

Yeah, guys are going to do that. But with the equipment that we have, we're pretty much maxed out. The guys on tour, we're pretty much maxed out with how good you can, how good you can hit the golf ball at that speed. That's why I never sent it super hard. Same with you, Colt and I were ahead. We were just ahead of learning curve. I throw everything I have into it on every swing. It just doesn't go anywhere.

It's depressing, playing with these guys. I get it. All right. So say, of all the long guys out on tour, step up you give it all you got yeah who comes out on top who's the longest I mean you have to say Cameron Chown yeah you don't even look like he swings out that that that's that's the crazy thing really bothers me I hate that I hate that he's six foot maybe 170 and he looks like he's just buttering it out there and you

get out there and it's 350 it's crazy but I I do think if you just get us on a driving range and give each of us five golf balls and let us see who can get it the furthest I'd have a hard time believing somebody can hit it further than me. Just because I know what I have in the tank. A lot of the guys on tour, you know, I'm good friends with Rory since he was little. Rory can only hit it so can only, he hits, he's almost maxed out, you know,

and I, and obviously he's an amazing driver of the golf golf. Imagine if he was six, four. Exactly. Exactly. With his mechanics, with those type of mechanics, you know, I think I have, you know, I have more speed than just about anybody on tour, including champ. I don't know how hard he could get it. You know, I think he's recorded, recorded on tour at, you know, getting his ball speed up to, like, high 190s.

But, you know, if I get after a few, I can get into the low 200. Crazy. I'll never forget, a few years ago, before Cameron Champ was on tour, we were playing in Napa, Safeway. Yeah. And I went out Tuesday afternoon late for a practice round. You know how, like, they have the little horseshoe grandstands. Yeah. So I'm walking from the putting green, and I can't see who's teen.

And I hear this, whop! And I'm like, I look at John Davenport. I go, what in the hell was that? Like, it was the loudest thing I've ever heard coming up. and I turn the corner and it's his camera champ and I'm like oh my god never heard anything so I played nine holes with him he outdrow me by 92 yards on the first hole and then he missed the green and I wore his ass off he's lasering you back there and Cole you're getting on 92 more than I got I got the green and he didn't so I can't it too you got to give it too much that's got to be hard to do

though knowing that's in the tank like if I had that I think I feel like I just want to send it I just use it every single time it's like Superman being able to fly it's taking time it's taking time to to tone it back and just learn how to play you know to me um attractive on the golf course is scoring. You know, that's the attractive thing. And I, and it is, it is length. Length is, you know, part of scoring. But I know I've got that. To me, it's like, you know, let's learn how to do all the other stuff because I've always had length. I've always had speed. I know where it comes from. I know how to generate it. And I have the body to do that that will last. So for me, it's always been about working about the work, working on the other

parts of the game. Yeah. That's awesome. Yeah. You want to go? I got one. So you mentioned earlier when you came out the ultimate game, like you and your brother Gipper were kind of like the long-hitting guys from Utah. The word was getting out about that. And Gipper, who's your younger brother, he kind of like, who's an incredible player, by the way, he kind of like developed first in terms of like winning some stuff, right? Like he was, yeah, no doubt. He was like doing things in Utah and stuff that like you hadn't done yet and he's your little brother. And you're like, you know, what's going on? My little brothers beat me. Like can't have that. Do you think having him a younger brother who was doing things that you weren't doing at the time like propelled you to be like,

yo, I can't have my little brother beat me and like made you better? No question. No question. and we made each other better as we grew. But he was way better than me. He started playing golf about 18 months before I did. So when I started, I was behind the eight ball, and he won his first junior tournament at six years old in Utah, 10-900 division tournament at six. I know, six years old.

I started playing when I was eight years old, so just almost two years after he started. But I couldn't even compete with him until I was 10, and then I think the first time I beat him was maybe when I was 11. But having someone like him as basically a sporing partner, and I think vice versa was good for both of us. We competed. We were able to be on a golf course long

because we just enjoyed each other's company. We kind of drove each other crazy, but we were basically attached to the hip to her 21. I mean, we were on big break together. You know, we shared rooms since we were kids, you know, in our house. It was just we were attached at the hip until we were both pretty much married.

So definitely a lot of memories with that dude. And, you know, I'm definitely as good a golfer I am because of him and the competition he brought to me at a young age. Yeah, that's great. I mean, y'all got to push each other. Yeah, exactly. We push each other as we continue to grow. Yeah, and I think that's another great example.

I mean, your coach now for a long time, Boyd's Summerhage. Yeah. He's got three young kids that are incredible. Yes. So we're going to talk about Boyd's some, but I want to talk about them a little bit. Yeah. Preston, Grace, and C, man. Yep.

Preston is an absolute stud. First of all, has he beat you yet? Yeah, he beat me for the first time on the last day, on December 31st here at Silverleaf of 2019. So he has a put on the last hole from about six feet to beat me for the first time. I just made like a 15 footer for par. And he has about a six footer for par to beat me outright for the first time in his life. And I basically say, hey, you know, don't choke. This is the difference between beating me in 19 and beating me in 20.

I know it's coming in 20 for sure. But, you know, I've been waiting for this moment and you finally have this, you know, so don't choke. So he hits it and I thought he left it short. He just dribbles it in right on the front of him. And he made it. But, you know, so he has beat me now. And it's been so cool, though, to kind of mentor him and help groom him into, you know, who he is. I mean, he's an amazing player and amazing golfer.

And just to be part of, you know, someone that supports him and helps is pretty cool. Yeah, U.S. Junior Amateur champ, by the way, Preston Samurai is. He's a beast in the making. Might not be the last time you two go toe to toe. Give him about three, four, five years or something. I got a sneaky feeling he's going to be up there playing with you in the big show. 100%. He's got a lot of potential.

And he's got the mind. to be really good. Yeah, but his dad is your swing coach, Boyd Summerhays. And honestly, probably one of the fastest up-and-coming big-name teachers. Yeah. I would say in the game of golf, the guy's incredible. He's done so much work with you. Tell us, like, kind of what he's meant to you and how much credit you give him for what you're turning into.

Yeah, I give him a lot of credit. You know, my swing needed a lot of fixing when I got from the web.com to the PGA tour. And, you know, one of the first things, you know, we addressed was, exactly what I mentioned earlier. How am I going to start controlling a golf ball, you know, swinging this fast? So my short back swing kind of came from my first year on tour. Boy, it pulls me aside. We started making some goals for our second year.

And he says, hey, T, I think you're a world beter. But you're not going to be a world beater if you don't learn how to hit the golf ball straight. So we went to kind of this knockdown shot. And, you know, right now on tour, I'm really known for a short back swing. But I've never had one. You know, I've never really had a short back swing. But in 2016, we worked on hitting just this little sliding. cut, this little low cut. And what that turned into, mechanics-wise, was just a short back swing.

For some reason, I just tightened the back swing up, and I was hitting this perfect little bleeder. So Boy, didn't really think anything of it. And, you know, I ended up, still, I end up, you know, now still having a short back swing. But, you know, as far as what he's meant, man, he's been a huge part. Not only in my physical game, but mentally, and, you know, he's kind of like my, you know, psychologist, if you will. You know, I don't really have, like, a mental guy, but he's probably definitely that guy who helps me kind of weave through all the traffic of the professional game and just get me focused on playing golf. So he's been a huge part to me. And so many of the changes that I have in my swing and in my game have a big part because of board. Yeah, you know, he is,

he's awesome. And I love following him on Instagram and all this. He records all kinds of things. Honestly, he kind of pisses me off because he hits like one shot a year on the PGA tour. He goes out to Sawgrass on 17. His swing is absolutely perfect. Perfect. Every time he swings golf, I'm like, it's annoying to me. I'm like, I practice to get to look like that. And I can't make it look like that. Exactly. He like stumbles out of bed.

It's like, yeah, I'll hit one. It's perfect. Exactly. Like, I worked with him quite a few times and like I would go out to McDowell Mountain Ranch and we'd be hitting balls and I'd be hitting balls for an hour. And he hadn't done anything. And he'd just grab a five iron and just and I'm like. Flush it. I know.

What is that? It's annoying. He's, he's super skilled. You know, his game is really good. Every time we go play, I give him one shot aside. And I've got to shoot four or five under to beat him. Yeah. He was a monster and.

college came out and without injuries he might still be playing right now but you mentioned boy this is perfect time to ask this question so you guys have a special relationship obviously he's your teacher he's a mentor he's a friend and all that but that doesn't stop you from playing the occasional practical joke on him from time to time so i talked to boyd earlier today and he filled me in on a little something you did with him this past year in the president's cup going down to australia tell me give the whole story about what you did to boyd and how elaborate it was because it was really well done by the way. Thanks. So what happened? What happened? What happened was Tiger, Tiger text me after China. Yeah. And I was the first man out on the President's Cup team. So the top eight qualify, I was nine.

So of course, I'm kind of like, man, this is going to be a crazy next few months. I'm going to have to prove the Tiger. Then I'm ready to play all these things. So that next few months was crazy. But after China, the next event was the President's Cup. So I knew I was going to even get a text, a call something. So Tiger text me and say, hey, give me a shout when you can. I'm like, of course. I've been waiting for this call, you know, for a long time. Hopefully it's the call that I'm expecting. So I give him a shout and he says, hey, I'm going to cut straight to the chase, you know, cut the fat. There's no, you know why I'm calling. I said, yeah, of course I do. I mean, I hope I do. And he says, well, I'm sorry to you. I have some, I have some sad

news to share with you. And my heart just sank. Oh, God. I'm just like, I'm nine, dude. I'm number nine. My head's already, I'm number nine, but, you know, I played, you know, I had my lowest round of, you know, in the fall of my PJ2 career. I feel like I showed enough, you know, promise and in the rider cuff. Just things are running through my head. He lets this go silent for five, six seconds. And he says, well, T, do you want to hear the verdict? You know, the official verdict?

I'm like, yeah, sure. Like, welcome to the team. So he totally just like, you know, use me, right? Yeah, 100%. Just all in the same time. So I took that and basically times that by like 100. with Bored. Okay. This is good, dude. So I, so I, my, my, my, my, my, my, my caddy comes in and, and I do the exact same thing to my caddy that Tiger did to me, probably 20 seconds. Yeah.

I kind of do the same thing to my wife, you know, over, you know, over the phone. I do the same thing to my dad. I just, I kind of just start doing the same thing because I'm like, I totally took it from Tiger. Yeah, yeah. But with Boyd, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was so well played because Boyd was expecting to me to make the team. He thought all parameters were aiming towards me making the team. So I basically text them, look, bad news. I'm in a terrible mood. I tell my caddy, tell him the same thing.

I tell my manager. Tell him the same thing. Just I'm on a long ride. I'm on a long ride back home. Just tell him I don't even want to talk. I'm totally in a dark place right now. And that, you know, it's all bad. So we let this go on for he's making the announcement.

That was on Sunday. He's making the announcement on Thursday. So I let it go all day Monday. And he's just boiling inside. Just I let it go all day Monday. On Tuesday, I'm thinking to myself, man, I don't know if I can let this go until Thursday because I just inside, I'm like, I want him to know that actually we're on the team, you know. But so Tuesday finally comes around and I get him on FaceTime.

This is the first time any conversation we've had since the text that I told him I didn't make the team. So, you know, I'm basically going through it all. And I said, hey, so he's like, hey, tell me how it went down. I've been doing all this math in my head for the last 48 hours. Just tell me how it went down. Tiger called you. Yeah, literally, literally, literally. He's like, you know, for 48 hours, I can't, I don't even know, you know, Tiger, you know, I can't believe he wouldn't in all this stuff, right? So I have my wife video me while I'm FaceTiming him. And I said, well, basically Tiger just said hey just exact same story I just share with you guys give me a shout when you can I say of course and he gets on the phone and says hey T I'm sorry but you know I got some

sad news to share with you and I'm looking at Boyd's face and he is just just like everything turning in his head and then you know I looked at him and and then I'm like well how did I put it I said I said tiger I said tiger but what did I say he's not he said tiger but what did I say he's said there's good news and bad news. Yeah, he explained it to me. Yeah, he said, he said, I have good news and I have bad news. And I'm like, okay, do you want to? Oh, I told him.

I said, I have good news and I have bad news. And he's like, do you want to hear the good news? And he's like, yeah, of course I want to hear the good news. And I was like, I looked at him and I'm like, of course I made the team. You know, I totally have it on video and it's probably better. He said he still got it. Oh my gosh. If you guys need it, I totally have it on video.

I totally prank them on it. And at first he was like, wait, I don't understand what? Wait, did you just. say you made the team so it was quite crazy and quite elaborate but uh probably one of the better pranks i've ever played for sure he called me today he was still pissed he's like this this tony you wouldn't believe this this he told me he was borderline thinking about getting on a flight and coming to you because he was so worried oh 100% he wanted to come yeah he wanted to come talk to me and make sure i was okay and yeah i totally played him so love that i end up i end up making the team and we're all good

yeah well you bring up tiger and i want to get into this because this had to be such a cool moment. I know it's not the outcome you wanted. Yeah. But 2019 Masters, you're in the final group with Tiger and Francesco Molinari. Yeah. And obviously Tiger ends up winning his 15th major championship. I want to know what it was like the night before the morning of, I want to know everything.

What was it like? I mean, what was going through here? Obviously, a guy you idolized. Yeah. Growing up, now you're in the final group with him at the biggest golf tournament in the world. Yeah. Well, take us through it. Yeah, so I shot 64 on Saturday and obviously doing, yeah, thanks. I was doing all doing all this.

doing all this media stuff. And I knew the chances of me being in the final group are, you know, just in contention going in tomorrow, we're really high. So I was really excited about that. I was playing some good golf. But I dreamed since I was a kid of competing against Tiger, playing against him in the final group, being paired with him in the final group of a master's, of a U.S. Open. That's what my dreams were made of as a kid. The put that I made was to beat him by one, was to be going to a playoff. Just all that, right?

I was the same kid. So to finally have that opportunity. you know, Saturday night, yeah, of course I was nervous, but, you know, it didn't, it didn't feel the way I thought it would on Sunday, just in that we teed off early. And I was more like, man, I earned this. You know, I kind of, I kind of felt that way more so than in total awe of being in this situation, you know, and, and I'm happy I felt that way because I think it's not a good feeling to be on the first team thinking, you know, you're fan girling over. Tiger, but I truly felt like, you know, I earned being in that position and, uh, and I had a

great chance to win the Masters. And that, and that, and that, and that was a super exciting to me, but walking to that first tea, I've never, I've never heard this many people in my life. I've never seen this many people. And it was, it was kind of a surreal feeling getting to that first team, you know, that first, the first tee shot, uh, I was definitely nervous. But, uh, once it came out to clothe face, I felt a lot better and, um, I was able to par the first few holes and and just get underway. But those type of experiences are things, you know, for me, you can't pay for, those type of experiences. You know, I was the first guy to congratulate Tiger on winning the green jacket. And, man, actually, a funny story. I'll tell you guys. I'll share with you about

that 2019 Masters. So on the first hole, you know, we both, you know, all three of us say hi, good luck. And, you know, nothing was said. On the second hole, Tiger hit it left. You know, wasn't close to me. I was in the fairway. Third hole, I went for it. They laid back, didn't talk to him. You know, fourth hole. is the part three, no talking. We finally get to the seventh hole and Tiger and I are walking next to each other off the T and I said, hey, Tiger, you know, it's kind of awkward. I'm like, how come he's not talking to me? Maybe I should say something to him. So I'm like, hey, Tiger, how's, you know, how's the kids? He's like, oh, they're doing fine. And he just laser-eyed

straight, you know, straight down the fairway and just kept on walking. And from that point on, I said, well, I guess I know where his, you know, where his attitude's at. And I'm not talking to for the rest of the day. So the next time we spoke was when I was congratulating him on winning the don't even think of being my friend today for the next four hours. He pretty much told me with a straight face, leave me along. By the way, Tiger, mine are doing great. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly, exactly. You should just kept going. Yeah, I should just kept talking. Yeah, you don't got to talk, but you're going to, you get damn good at listening. Next time I want to try that. I have a feeling I'm going to have an opportunity again. So I'm going to try that. I'm going to try that next time. Is it cool to be

like, obviously you're in that situation. He's a guy you had on your wall growing up. You know, I mean, all of us our age had idolized him growing up. And now, like, later in his career, he seems to be more, like, opening up more. Like, he and Justin Thomas have become very close. He's the captain at the president's cup that you're at in Australia. Is it really, is it, like, how cool is it for you to, like, on it, like, just become friends almost with a guy like that who was so untouchable for so long? Yeah, it's so cool.

And like I said, it's super surreal, you know, just to have Tiger's number in my back pocket and, you know, to text him. What is it? To be able to text him, you know, I just got to ask him. the last the other day, hey, what's the most famous number in your phone? And it's definitely Tiger Woods. Yeah, yeah. We'll tweet it. I love it. But, you know, I think he's really taking a liking and really is taking on that

role of being a role model and being someone that we all looked up to and really taking us under his wing. So that's really cool. And for him to be able to do that is something pretty special for me. Yeah, and to battle with him on a Sunday or on a weekend. Yeah, no doubt. Hopefully it's not our last. That's the real deal. All right. Well, I'm going to get into it. I want to get into a little bit of non-golf right now because, what, cold, two months ago or so, a first guest ever, maybe, I think, on golf subpar we had Gary Woodland on. Second guest.

Second guest ever. She does. Excuse me. Second guest ever, obviously, Gary, a guy you're good friends with. But I want to clear something up because we had Gary on here. And there's a lot of guys that are becoming, you know, like good athletes who are on the PJ tour right now. You get brought up. Gary gets brought up.

A lot of these guys get brought up. And they're like, you know, there's video of you dunk in a basketball and things like that. So we ask Gary straight up on this podcast. You know his basketball history, right? Played college basketball a little bit. We said, is there any dude on the PJ tour in a game to 11 that could score four points or more against you? Without hesitation, Colt, you back me up. And he's like 0.0.0.

And you had college basketball scholarship offers out of high school. What do you take, clear the record right now. Game to 11, we're trying to start a beef here. We're trying to start like a little war, a little rivalry. You and Gary Woodley, you think you can get to four against him? Yeah, I'll take it a step further. I think I could beat Gary on one. There we go.

That's it. Got to get it. Drop that. I can definitely beat Gary in a one-on-one game. I'll do it anytime. Oh, my God, I got to see this. We need this. One-on-one.

Sleas and Colt, commentate. Oh, yeah. We'll broadcast it. The ultimate game basketball version. I mean, we got plenty of time to do it. That's incredible. Yeah, so I wanted to get, but you, true story, you did have college basketball offers out of high school, right?

Weber State, right? Weber State. So I would have played with Damien Lillie. I was about to say. That was the same time. Yeah, same time. Oh, God. He's all right.

He's all right. He's all right. He's all right. He's all right. He's all right. I was recruiting, being recruited at we were at the same time

as he was. So you played all through high school, right? Yeah, all right through high school and leading rebounder in Utah. And, you know, my role wasn't to score, but, you know, I could shoot the basketball. So, yeah.

But then the ultimate game happened. The thing about basketball, I love, you know, basketball was my first love. I love watching the NBA. I loved playing basketball growing up. It was, you know, I wanted to be an NBA player

before I wanted to be a PJ tour golfer and basketball is just in my DNA and my dad played a lot of basketball and all my cousins we all get together a reunion you got a cousin that ain't too shabby yeah you know jibari parker's in the NBA so he's decent decent NBA player but favorite NBA team Lakers always or yes old jazz yeah I love the I love the jazz too but they're not my favorite team yeah I'm kind of strange that way most jazz fans hate Laker Laker fans but I you know I enjoy the jazz because I'm a huge out of here for you other than your cousin favorite player that's Current. Yeah, you can't have a family member.

It's Kobe. And I'm not saying that in the rise of Kobe's, you know, legacy because of what happened to him. But, you know, I had Kobe stuff, Kobe gear, Kobe shoes well before, you know, I was a huge Kobe fan. When they won, you know, their three titles in a row, when him and Shaq broke up, you know, after Detroit's loss, you know, I'm a huge, I'm a huge Kobe guy. So he's definitely my favorite player. That's cool. And not only Javari Parker, your cousin, who's in the NBA. You got a couple other playing the NFL.

Yeah, I got some big boys. Do you remember this story? So you and I were playing the final round of a jickey jack. Jiggy Jack is code for many tours. We call them jiccicx. We're at the PJ Tour. We're at PJ West Stadium course. Final round.

You and I were in the final group together. You end up winning a tournament. Good job. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. That week. But we show up to the first tee.

I'm on the first tee. Here comes Tony strolling up. And two of the biggest human beings I've ever seen in my life. Strow up to the first tee. One's got an Oregon Ducks football shirt on. That one's got a Utah football shirt on. And these dudes weighed 330. I was like, oh, my, I wonder who they're rooting for.

You know what I mean? Walk over and, like, Tony's like, hey, you know, we're talking and stuff. He's like, yo, these are my cousins. Hey, and it's Heloni Nara. And what's your other one? Yeah, Hamani Stevens. Yeah, I didn't know how to say it. Okay, yeah.

And they're both right there. We're going to follow Tony, follow strong for the entire 18. I was like, eh. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. This might not do the one to win. Six, five, three, 50. Yeah, you got a lineage that's crazy.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, we got great genes. But just more so, just a bunch of, competitive athletes in our family and and it's just all contagious you know we all get together in family unions we play it doesn't matter what we're playing board games anything you know we want to kill each other and then we love each other after you need a lot of food at those family guys oh a lot so big big homies coming over for thanksgiving yeah that's that's good stuff all right

well this is something we do with every guest okay we have we have a we have a segment called emergency nine we have nine questions they're some are the same with all guests some are different but here we go ready ready all right i'll start off number one movie about the life of Tony Fee now, what actor, current or past plays it? Will Smith. Oh, of course. Getting chiggy with it. Yes, right.

Big Lewis, style. Do you know who Sleeves thinks plays him? Come on. Work with me here, Tom. Jason Bateman? Oh, I'll allow that. Probably the talents of human being. I love Jason.

I pick Jamie Fox for me. Of course. I mean, I like that. Yo, your boy, Gary Woodland picked Denzel Washington. I'm going to print. Hey, that'd be probably my number too. Yeah, ain't that cool. Gary. Get over yourself.

Yeah. All right. Willie Smith. Willie Smith, that's allowable. All right. Number two, during this time, coronavirus, very big deal right now. If you had to be quarantined with one guy from the United States Presidents Cup team for 30 days, who would it be? And not go crazy. One hotel room. Think on this. Yeah, I'm thinking. I'll probably go Xander. That's what I thought. Oh, why? Because he's like even killed. Yeah, super even killed. He likes playing card games. I love card games. We played a lot on our over and on our right back from Australia.

So I could definitely see handling 30 days with him, no doubt. Okay. X man. Did you get in on the big gambling games? No, him and him and Cantley were, you know. What in Park games? Yeah. What do they play?

Jin. Jen. Oh, they like the park? I think, I think Cantley was up on him quite a bit. Cantley's good. Really? Canley's a smart guy. Yeah, exactly.

Yeah, it seems like he'd have all the numbers. All right. Number three, NBA player who most resembles your basketball game. I got one. Ooh. I mean, I know this might sound like glowing, but KD. You know? Long, lanky, and can shoot.

I mean, what else what else what I got to say? That's good. I was going to go Grant Hill. Hey, I like that too. I'll take anybody in the NBA right now. Jabari Parker maybe. That's right. Yeah, that probably.

All right, here we go. We'll stay on the basketball topic right now. We did this with Erlacker a couple weeks ago. We built a football team out of PJ tour players. I want you do the same thing right now, but starting five in basketball, current PJ tour. By the way, he drafted you for the football team. You were tied in. Oh, yeah, you're a tight end on Erlacker's.

football team so I'll get to the rock a lot yeah well I mean Gdub myself um I would say sneaky but Troy Merritt yeah he's really he's nice dude he can he's a good he's a good shooter play a lot of basketball growing up um I would say Andrew loop yeah he can he can he can jump and then at center I'll probably put uh well he's not on tour anymore but Mike Putnam he's he's he's a really good basketball player but he's huge big body six six six six He's a Kevin Love type, I feel like. So I, you know. We can allow that.

Anyone in the golf world. Yeah, I think, I think I'd put, you know, I'd put DJ in as a backup. Who's getting the most shots up on that team? Man, I mean, me and Jada probably. Yeah, he'll be fighting over this ball. Yeah, we'll be letting it fly. That is, that is greatness. All right.

What is one thing you're not very good at that you wish you were? Ooh, playing the piano. Really? Yeah. Yeah, I wish I could play the piano. I, you know, I feel like I'm a pretty good guitar player. grew up around a lot of music. I wish I could play the piano.

Yeah, that's the one instrument that was, you know. Get those kids. With your hands, too, you could reach like three octaves of one hand. Exactly. It'd be easy. It'd be no problem playing. Yeah, built for the piano. The things you learn on golfs up parts and the piano.

It's not too late for that, by the way. I know. I know. I know. Especially with this quarantine time, I might just want to learn that. Yeah, dude, you could set that up. All right. Here we go.

Only listen to one album for the rest of your life in your car or at home or on a headset, whatever. One album. Man. Yeah, it's, yeah. It's reggae for me, first of all. That's, that'll be the genre. Yeah, I'll be reggae. And, I mean, it's, it's, it's going to be hard to be just a legend CD from Bob Marley. Best of Bob Marley.

Yeah, just all his best stuff. You know, it probably sounds cliche with reggae and Bob, but, you know, I, I like Revolution. They just came out with a pretty hot album. You know, three doors down is another one I like, but I'm going to have to go. with Bob. Keep it mellow. Just keep it chill. Yeah, that's kind of my that's kind of my vibe, you know. Are you a music guy while you're practicing? Yeah, no doubt.

Always listening to music. Who's in there when you hit balls? Ooh, I got a lot of Kaigo. Okay. I'm a mix. You know, I got a lot of hip-hop, a lot of Kanye, a lot of Nas. Your big post-malone guy? Big Post Malone. A lot of post-malone. And then I'll throw it back old school. You know, I got a lot of earthwind and fire, cooling the game. Oh, wow. Yeah, Casey and the Sunshine Man. Old Soul.

Old Soul, I am. When it comes to music, I probably am. Yeah, mellow. Sugar Hill. Sugar Hill game. You know what I mean? Rapper's Delight. Rappers Delight. Call me.

All right. Number seven. If sports didn't exist, what would you do for a living? Oh, I would be a chef for sure. A chef? Yeah. Chef Tony. 100%.

What's your specialty? Curry chicken. Yeah, curry chicken. I love curry dishes just in general. But I'd definitely be a chef. I love eating, man. It might not look like it, but I can eat. Are you active in the kitchen right now with all the corona stuff?

Yeah, very active. I'm cooking like two meals a day. Wow. Good for you. Yeah, breakfast and dinner. It's impressive. Yeah. But I like it, though.

I enjoy cooking. You know, there's just like a cool sentiment about just being in a kitchen and doing your thing. That's awesome. Fair enough. Okay. All right, here we go. Next question. What would your wife say is the most annoying thing about you?

Oh, my farting. No doubt. There it is. We couldn't get through one podcast. No, we have to have one fart shit talk in every episode. 100% my farting. She hates it. Just because she hates it, I just keep piling on.

Don't stop. Don't stop. Can't stop. It never fails. I thought we were actually going to get through one without a flatuation story. This is going to be our first non-shit episode. Sorry about that. Way to keep the streak a lot.

All right. Last question. Which question do you hate getting asked more about your ankle that you messed up at the master's or when you're going to win next? Oh, man. It's kind of like a tie. Honestly, people have been lighting me up about both. But I would still say the ankle.

Just because it's two years ago now. Yeah. And I've seen, I've been through all pretty much the same tournaments. And everybody still asks me, hey, I was the ankle. Don't roll your ankle. And I still get all of that. So that's super annoying at this point. The first year, I kind of got it.

It's the first time I'm seeing everybody at each stop since the mass. I totally understand. But now it's still, yeah, exactly. Your ankles, tip your ankle. Take your ankle. Watch off for that hole. I still get it all. It's quite annoying. I was going to leave with that question.

First thing, like, hey, here's Tony Fina. How's your ankle, bro? Yeah. You should have. I know, right. Tony, it's been an absolute pleasure. You're fantastic. Thanks so much for joining us on golf subpar.

Thank you, guys. Appreciate it. And that was Tony Fienow. Slees. One of my favorite interviews I think we've done to date. He was absolutely incredible. Awesome, dude. Got voted number two nicest guy on the PJ Tour recently,

only behind Jordan Spieth as a top. because I'm not on tour anymore. That's a tough. You were right there. You were under others receiving boats. Exactly. Others receiving boats. But man, some awesome stuff.

First off, I teased it before the interview. The ultimate game in Las Vegas where he decided to turn pro and try to win all the money. We need more than that. We need more of that. It was awesome. Why does that not exist anymore? That's only the best idea in the history of the world. By the way, you can never have had a tour card on the corn ferry or the PJ tour.

None of that. All many tours are all up and coming guys. I mean, look at the names that were in the one with Fina. Yeah. I mean, there are real dudes making real moves on the PJ tour that came out of that. That would be very exciting. That would be something you and I should go cover. Oh, I had a card, but it doesn't really count so I could retroactively go back.

Not play. We just cover it. We'll do TV. Oh, yeah, absolutely. In Vegas, though. Yes, of course. Mandatory. But a lot of cool stuff.

I mean, how about, first off, he thinks he can take Gary Woodland one-on-one, no problem. That's exactly what we're looking for here. We're trying to start a beef. And if there is a guy that could challenge him, could be tone. He had a legit college offers out of high school. So he could hoop. And Gary was a legit. college player. He actually suited up.

Gary's legit, legit. That'd be two big boys battling it out. Who you taking? Put me on the spot here, Coltsy. Yeah, I got to. They're both guests here. Be a very close game. Probably go to extra innings. I mean, dude, I've seen the tape on Gary, so I go with Gary. I haven't seen the tape on Tony. I love you, Tony. I love you. I admit it. No offense. For sure, but he is awesome. Superstar. First of all, he already is a superstar, but he's going to be an enormous superstar in the making. He's going to win tons of golf tournaments.

and hopefully some major championships. He was awesome. And hopefully some major championships starting here in only a few more months, Gulte, fingers crossed. That's for sure. But thanks again to Tony Fee now for joining us. Until next week, everybody stays safe, stay healthy, and we'll see you on golf subpar.