Subpar - Tyson Nash shares some incredible hockey stories and his unique bag set up

Episode Date: January 21, 2025

On this week's episode of GOLF's Subpar Colt Knost and Drew Stoltz are joined by NHL broadcaster Tyson Nash for an exclusive, in-studio interview. The former St. Louis Blues stand out talks his current broadcasting gig with the Utah Hockey Club, playing a split left and right handed bag and the best stories from his minor league days. -- Subscribe Now to out YouTube: ⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCt5ESUx6omMUsMoEKvMTzlA ⁠⁠ Shop The Birdie Juice Collection: ⁠⁠https://fairwayjockey.com/collections/birdie-juice ⁠⁠ Follow Instagram: ⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/golf_subpar/?hl=en ⁠⁠ Follow Twitter: ⁠⁠https://twitter.com/golf_subpar?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor⁠⁠    

All right, welcome back to golf subpar with Coltonost and Drew Stoltz. The third week of the PGA tour season is in the books. The American Express champion and the ox. Sep Straca put on an absolute clinic out in the desert, winning by two over Justin Thomas, was bogey free through 69 holes, made a couple coming in, but he was cruising sleighs and ended up shooting 25 under to win by two over JT. Yeah, the man looked good.

His golf swing remains one of the most simple, I think, repeatable on the PGA tour. Pace of play is spectacular. He's a good guy to, like, model your game after. It kind of took the drama out of it. I was kind of open for a showdown. That closing stretch at stadium course is fun. It's a tough place to close out regardless of the lead. But he kind of took away the drama.

Two bogeys coming home, still cruised to a two-shot victory. And really, like, you know, it was dome golf out there all week. But he wanted on the stadium course, 10-under on that place over the two days, 64 earlier in the week, which he said was one of his best rounds he's ever played. And, I mean, top. 20 in the world now. Ryder Cup are still a guy that I feel like is under the radar more or less. Yeah, I'm with you.

That Friday round at the stadium course where he beat the scoring average by 7. The stadium was by far playing the hardest of the three golf courses. Lakeinta and Nicholas Tournament were playing just over 68 shots for the field. Stadium course, 71.3 or 4, I believe. Had a little more bite with the new greens this year. And all the players talking about, I mean, greens were much firmer on the stadium course. Little humps and bumps they added here caused some players. some trouble. No one had more trouble than William Mao, who made a little 13 on the 16th.

We've seen that crazy deep bunker. It's around 20 feet deep. We've seen guys have some trouble with it. Our man, Johnson Wagner, showed how to play. You just skull shank it into the hill and it bounces up and goes to like seven feet. You got to watch life from leading up to the tournament, Johnson shows you the way. But William Mao, man, I felt bad for me. He handled it beautifully. He was going along really nice. Was 200 on his round. Makes a 13 with no penalty strokes there. heads over to Alcatraz, number 17, follows it up with the triple boge six. So just 19 shots and two holes.

Quick 11 over through two. Hey, props to him, by the way, finished the week at even par. It would have been easy to just lay down and die like, well, this sucks. And the cut was 9-00. I mean, it's like, oh. Minus those two holes, which, you know,

they still count. That would have been a hell of a good week. I mean, he was just cruising around, but you don't see the old 13 piece from Greenside, no penalty strokes too often. It was a mess, a complete mess. Another weird deal. Ben Griffin, third hole, 195 yards to the hole, seven iron, six iron at most,

straight top slash knife into one of the mounds, went 76 yards, and then walks up there and holds it from 119. Weird game we play. Normal birdie. Yeah. Just a three on the car. Just laying it up to 195 is not a good number. If you were falling at home on shot track, you're like, oh, no, they messed it up.

They messed up. He didn't hit it 76 from 195, but he did. And without a three wood, three wood. That guy is sneaky good. He has a lot of good finishes. He was in 10th when he did it too and went on to play. I think he topped 10th. After he hold it, he went to 8th.

Yeah. Well done. Well done by him. One of your thoughts on Justin Thomas real quick. Coming off, second place finished their runner up played really nice. Good to see him back in form. Yeah, he looked really good. Teeter Green.

I mean, the front night he came out on Sunday. It looked like he might play a factor and trying to catch that. Shot 31. He had a missed like five footer, I believe, on the seventh. And the back nine hit it good, too. Just kind of putts it and go. They weren't necessarily bad puts, just like Miss Reed or the speed was a little bit off. But, I mean, I'm extremely optimistic on JT's year.

I just think things have kind of settled down, caddies, swing, all the stuff. And he's just, I think he's going to play some damn good golf this year. He played really good this week. Just Sep just kind of went out and went out and took it. But I thought he looked really good. But Tita Green, he was like vintage old JT. Yeah, I'm very excited for Justin this year. I think he's going to have a really big year.

The new dad, shout out Molly Grace. No things are, she's out on the road traveling. Yes. And also, I believe the only thing I will nitpick with Justin Thomas, he became a dad. Now he looks like he's rocking the air dads out there on the course. Those shoes, JT. I got a question mark. Those were a new look.

Those were the all white with the khakis. It's just like, this is the signal I've given up on caring. I know it, dude. I got pretty much my everyday outfit is that. Like, who cares as long as I'm closed? I know what they are. They're the footjoy hyperflex because I was talking to some people. I was like, they're now the hyper dads.

Yeah, those are. Those are straight out the dad camp right there. But keep up the great play, J.T. We're rooting for you. Over on the DP World Tour, one of the best characters in the game of golf. Tiro Hatton plays over on Live with John Rom on Legion 13, picked up his fifth Rolex series win down in Dubai, seven-foot par puttut on the last to go along with a destroyed T-marker,

among other things. But once again, showing he's one of the best players in the world, left the PGA tour for Liv was 16th in the world, tough to make world ranking points because he only get a few events a year. He's moved up to ninth. Really impressive stuff, man. I love this guy. He's going to be on that team for Europe, heading up to Beth Page.

I cannot wait to hear some of the interactions with the fans at Beth Page with them in Turrell Hatton. He's going to love it. He's going to love it up. He is going to love it up, if not the only guy, I think, to move up in the world golf rankings since going to live. It feels like every DP World Tour event he plays, especially recently, he's on the front page of the leaderboard. Now he's contending. Now he's winning. I think he's what number.

Is he number one now on the European Rider Cup? Like what she said like, look, this tournament specifically highlighted it, won it. And the four majors like, I got to go play because I need to be an automatic pick for that rider cup team. And it's looking good. I can tell you this. No matter what, he's going to be on that team. I would have to assume.

And they've had, he's played in seven events since the points have started accumulating for the Rider Cup. He had finished T-18 in the first one. Since then, all top tens with two wins. Yeah, it's every week. every single week out there. Props to him getting the top ten of the world's hard or anything, especially when you don't play that many events with points.

And Rory McRoy was looking for a third straight win over there, goes out, finishes fourth. Again, I mean, it's like the guy just top fives every tournament. Yeah, it came backdoor top five, wins that thing a lot. It just feels like continuing on from last year. Play good golf, just not good enough. Well, oh, one last thing, which we should, deserves a little attention going back to the Amex.

I mentioned SEP Straka, pace of play is nice. You know, it's not nice. Everyone else on the PGA tour. Not everyone else. It's a joke. It's not everyone, but you get my point. Five hours, 39 minutes to go play in dome conditions, zero wind, minimal rough. Greens aren't that tricky compared to some of the stuff they'll see on the PJ tour.

Five hours, 39 minutes to get that thing done. They almost played two, they took them an hour more to play two NFL football games than it did for those guys to play 18 at the stadium course. and guess what happened? Nothing. Nothing. I think you went through that a little fast. We're talking about something slow, but you went through it pretty fast. Go through that again.

They played two football games, two NFL. Playoff games, like more commercials. With a lot of commercials and stuff, in one hour longer than it took the final group to play the final round at the Amex, five hours and 39 minutes. It's a joke. It's got to change. People all over social media are just bitching and moaning,

which I understand. They're like, we don't even get to see the entire final round. They don't even imagine going to a football, turning on a football game, and the broadcast starts in the second quarter. Well, look, you can't have eight hours of coverage. You can't pay all these people. Five hours and 40 minutes to sit there and call golf, it's ridiculous. It's got to change. The tour's got to do something about it.

I mean, what's the number one complaint you hear from fans? It's the only thing all golf fans agree on in the world that they all come together. And it's the Venn diagram. It's right in the middle. Yeah. Speed the shit up. Yeah. So let's do it.

make a change. Something's got, I mean, Jay Monahan. Come on, man. I know you're listening. You got to pick this thing up. Somebody's got to be the example. Okay, you got to take a top player. And it's got to be a real dude.

It can't be some guy missing the cut. Yeah, someone that is slow. And listen, there is a rule. Once again, in TGL, everybody is like, oh, my God, this shot lock is amazing. 40 seconds is amazing. Sleez, what's the rule on the PJ tour? How long you have to play a shot? 45.

It's 40. 40. Yeah. 45, give or take. That's the rule. Just fucking in 40. It's, yeah. I don't know how loud the outrage needs to be, how bad the pace of play needs to get before they finally come together. Seems like PJ Tour hadn't made a habit of

making great decisions of late. But get in a room, here's the one thing like, boys, it's time. This is an awful product. I mean, we had a guy on radio call us this morning. He's like, dude, I tried to watch yesterday. Couldn't. It's so slow. It's a death march. I'm out. Call me when the majors start. And he ain't the only, there's a lot of people like that. In a world where they're trying to base everything around fans and they're limiting field sizes but they say speeding up pace of play. It's like, dude, here's an easy fix to actually do something about this problem. And they continue to do nothing.

They had a running clock on the coverage on Golf Channel of how long Charlie Hoffman, Jason Day, and Sepp Strocker were standing on the 11th T. It's a joke. It's 71 guys made the cut. There you go. So these limited fields, it doesn't matter. It's slow players that are out there. It's just, it's mind-blowing how bad this thing can get. And that is the most mundane conditions.

conditions in terms of like calculating a shot, things you have to consider. It's like, oh, it's 150. Well, out there, fly at 149 with those greens. Like, no wind, no nothing. And it's 540. Like, do something. Fix it. Yeah, it's got to change or else we're going to continue to lose fans.

I mean, unless you're a diehard, you ain't buckling in and sitting there and watching five and a half hours of golf going from ESPN Plus over to golf channel or CBS or NBC. It sucks, man. It's unfortunate. Something's got to change. We've got to get this thing going. starting forcing the rules and make it enjoyable for everybody to watch. That's our old man yelling at the clouds segment for the day.

Let's go to last thing, a young man made his tour debut this week, got a lot of pub, 17-year-old, Blades Brown, ended up missing the cut by a few, got off to a slow start and had a brutal finish, five over on his last 11, I believe, the final round, or his third round, to miss the cut by three. But sandwiched in between that, 10 birdie, 64 in round two, would you make of the young man performance, who by the way, upcoming guest on so far. Yeah, I'm excited to have him. Like, listen, I've been asked my opinion on him turning pro at 17 years old. I'm against it. I mean, I've talked to parents. I've talked to young kids who are thinking about going this route.

And my just one thing is, look, Tiger Woods went to college. Jack Nicholas went to college. The two greatest ever, and if there's no argument, all went to college. In the day of NIO, where these kids are making a lot of money, staying amateur and going to college. And with PGA Tour you, I was surprised by the decision of Blades Brown. He's obviously got a ton of talent shooting 64 on the PGA tour. Oh, I know it was the Nick tournament course, but still to go out there and make Tim Birdies, special stuff. It's got all the talent in the world. I just think he rushed it a little bit, but I'm interested to see what he does the rest of the year. I just, I don't understand what the rush was. He's going to get some shots. He's going to get some sponsors exemptions,

and we'll see how it goes. To me, I don't know if there's like a right or wrong. I think you give up, you sacrifice. What I would say is one of the greatest. times of your life, uh, this college. But on the other flip side of that, like you might get to, you're going to get to do a lot of cool shit that you wouldn't have gotten to do, you know, if you went to school. But especially with the NIL, I felt you'd see this less and less with big name amateur junior kids coming out because of NIL, because they can sign a deal with club companies or whoever they want and make some money as they get better in college. Um, but, you know, you named off a few guys that went to call like Rory McElroy. He's done okay. You know,

there's an example, Akshay's turned into a, Hell of a good player. It takes a little. Yeah, if you're going to expect, like, him to go contend and win PJ tour events, like, right off the jump of coming out and getting sponsors exemptions, I don't think that's realistic. Kids are 17 years old. But give him a little runway here, and we'll see.

He's a mature kid. Golf game's good. And, yeah, I don't know if there's right or wrong. It's just personal decision. And he's going to, but he's going to get cracks at it this year. Look, I just think for the guys overseas, it's much different. Like, I mean, Rory was possibly going to go to college. I believe at East Tennessee State, a lot of Australia.

They would have been good with him. Yeah, they'd have been pretty good. By the way, if he would have gone to East Tennessee State, every other top golf program in the world, be like, hey, coaches, where were we all out on that one? They used to have, like, the monopoly on the Europeans. Their whole squad was good. But for Americans, I just think with how important colleges and NIL

and just, by the way, getting out on your own for a little bit, getting away from the parents, learning to grow up a little bit and be on your own. I think it's a huge step, and I was a little surprised by it, but hey, we'll wait and see what happens. Roy McRoy was in. contentioned at a major championship right before he turned pro he came out was pretty good pretty quick

but i'm a huge i'm a huge blaze brown fan we got to play him in the four ball selfishly i love it means he can't play in the four ball anymore that's one less team to work on but he's the nicest kid he'll ever meet he's going to be a upcoming guest uh on the show and it's it's fun to keep track of that's a lot for a 17 year old kid he had a lot of eyeballs on them and then i mean just maybe a little inexperienced a little nerves or else he would have been playing the weekend first crack he's got a lot of game no doubt but he's 17 years old uh we'll see what happens but But all the talk lately, been about TGL, simulator golf, and our friends over at Golf Zone have been doing it for years.

Over in Korea, they've been doing this for over 12 years. They have tournaments, golf zone tour. They've had players go on to win the KPGA and Asian Tour tournaments. This is awesome. They have chose 12 of the best facilities and are sending teams from those facilities down to Orlando. They're flying them in for the final match, which will be held at the PGA Show booth. winning team takes home $150,000 purse. The final match will be played on virtual Bay Hill map

and on the new NX simulator. They're debuting at the PGA show. People can keep up on the tabs by following Golf Zone America on social media. So go check that out. It's going to be a lot of fun to watch. Simulator Golf taking over the world. 150,000. That's a car.

Might want to hold on to that one. What kind of car? Dumb and dumber, dude. It's 375,000. But this is 150,000, which is also still a car, possibly multiple cars. AJ Brown showed up in a Honda Civic. Respect to that, by the way.

30K. He has five of those. A Honda Corps, 100 million dollar receiver, Honda Corps. Love that. Good man. Well, let's get to our guests this week. You know, we love the hockey guys. It all started with Mike Commodore for us.

He's freaking hilarious. Well, we got a little different version of Mike Commodore. This guy is an absolute beauty, as we like to say, on this show. Played in the NHL for eight years, transferred over to the TV world and is just killing it. Tyson Nash joined. just on golf subpar. All right, folks, it is time to welcome on an eight-year

NHL veteran, one of the great personalities, I would say, in the game, one of the most stylish dressers, as evidence today. And current, we'll call it Swiss Army Knife for the Utah Hockey Club. Tyson Nash is in the house. T. Nash? Boys. Pleasure to have you, buddy. Who canceled is what I want to know.

This is like golfing, right? You get the late tea time offer. It's like, hey, I'm like, when are you playing? Next week? No, we're playing in an hour. I'm like, oh, yeah, you bitch. Bards. Seven people bailed. And here you are.

No, we've been waiting on this one. You figure this out. Yeah, happy to be here. Let's talk a little bit about the Utah Hockey Club, the hoodie. Fantastic, by the way. This old thing? Love the colors. That's old thing.

How's it going up there in Utah? It's good. It's good, yeah. It's popping, boys. Shoes the shoes and the shoes match. We don't mess around in Utah. I love it. We don't mess around.

You know what? It's been a ton of fun, right? To be a part of something from the ground up. I was kind of part of that here in Arizona. Still super sad, obviously, that we lost our team here in Phoenix. But I think when you look at it, like Utah deserves a team. They're a hockey climate, hockey market. It's absolutely exploded.

It's been better than I think anything the NHL could have ever expected. And when you have two owners like Ryan Smith, who I know you know, Ashley, his wife, they are pulling out all the stops. absolutely first class, the swag bags we get, how they treat us as employees, how they treat the players. The players, I mean, they're sitting there going, this is the best thing I've ever seen. Like, they're like, are you kidding me?

Look at this locker room. And it is. It's state of the art. But I'm like, boys, this is also what the National Hockey League is all about. It's supposed to be. Not the mullet, right? It's legitimate. That's the National Hockey League.

And Ryan and Ashley have made sure that they have done an absolutely first class. And I'm a small part of it. and happy to be. That's so cool, man. I've been telling Ryan, I want to get up for a game. I just don't want those one seats where you can't see the goal.

Those are tough. Those are tough. Those are tough. The players disappear. You've got to just go with the flow, but they're going to fix it. He's putting in a ton of dough to make sure that I don't know how they're going to fix it.

That's over my pay grade, but when it gets done, it's going to be special. Good news is he can afford it. They won't lack for anything up there if I had to guess. Let me ask you this in terms of your pull. I introduced you as a Swiss Army knife.

We'll get to your role. here in a second, but what kind of pool do you have in terms of making them the Utah Yetis, which I feel like was the biggest layup, sweetest mascot possible. Yeah. Is that still on the table? I mean, dude. It has to be on the table. The sweater, the gear could be all time.

Like, what is it? A snowman? Yeah, I did. It's like a maybe fictional character, maybe a realistic little, yeah, like cold weather creature. Here's where I feel really good that obviously they're geniuses, right? in marketing, fan engagement, all that stuff. That's where Ryan, that's where he's made his dough, right?

So I think we're in pretty good hands. As far as what comes next, my understanding is there's a ton of red tape with everything that they're looking at, all the names. But it's also genius, right? Because we're all wearing this. Everyone's buying it. You can't even, I mean, you can't even find it, right? So now they're going to add a name to it next year.

Now you're going to have to rebuy all. Right. So it's all the jerseys, all the swag. Just don't change the colors. No. The colors are so sick. Isn't it? Yeah.

I'm a big fan of those. Yeah. It's nice. That's going to be nice. I got a good feeling they're going to migrate that way to the Yetis, which will go down as a nice little sponsorship to that Yeti company is pretty big. Yeah. Yeah.

That's a bad. It wouldn't be bad to get involved with. You guys got to come down. It is crazy. Like this atmosphere, like I've been to every, obviously, played as a fan, as a broadcaster. This place is off the charts. It really is. And Salt Lake itself, the town, I always wondered, why is it?

everyone's smiling around here all the time but like when you look around and you look at the mountains you i mean now they're skiing i'm up in park city when on days off i'm like this is are you kidding me and we got a hockey team here and all the like all the people are beautiful that oh dude it's like the most healthy yeah they're all in shape and good they all like little models i don't think it's a gnarly like god damn it's dangerous it's up here dangerous town yeah but having fun uh let's go back to your early days because obviously growing up in Canada i mean for us like golf i mean we all looked up and idolized Tiger Woods for y'all. You have the great one.

Wayne Gretzky. Tell us about your starting hockey and the first time you ever got to meet Wayne Gretzky. Oh, man. I grew up in Emmetton, small town outside of Benton called Sure Park. I think he had Ray Whitney on there. We're like five minutes from each other. Like trailer park stuff, right?

Like just. I have the answer to that. I know. But that's Canada. Like we, everything we do, it's cold, you know, 11 months of the year out there. So you got outdoor rinks. You have no choice but to get out and exercise and be a part of it. There's no cell phones.

There's no nothing. So that's kind of how it started for me at a young age. You're out there with your buddies. And I can tell you, hockey has given me a lot like golf for you guys, giving me everything in my life, right? But you don't start out at five years old thinking that. You just start out because you love it, right? It's a game. And the fact that I was able to make some sort of living at it is just extra special.

but I grew up watching the Edmonton Oilers, Wayne Gretzky at that time. I mean, this was a heater, right? I mean, what, they went, four cups when I was a kid? I mean, four Stanley Cup parades. They got Wayne Gretzky, the best player to ever lace them up. Mark Messier, one of the best power forwards to ever play the game. Glenn Anderson, Yari Curry, Kevin Lowe, Paul Coffey.

I mean, it was like endless. So if you were a player, you could find your guy, right? And my guy, I wanted Wayne Gretzky, because but who's going to emulate him right so i found a guy esotiquaner little rat but like you know like just runs his mouth he's a finished guy you didn't even know what he was saying out there but he was just running his mouth constantly every game and when you go to a game you're like hey who could i play like like who kind of emulates me right and that was kind of my guy Kenny linsman another another guy his name was literally the rat they used to call him that was his nickname so that's kind of

where I fell in love with it. I met a bunch of them over the years. I did a commercial with Dave Semenko, who was one of the toughest guys to ever play. And Kevin Lowe, when I was a young kid, I think it was like seven years old. So that's kind of where I fell in love with the game. I had Wayne Gretzky wallpaper, bed sheets growing up. And then you asked when I met Wayne. I met him, you know, at autograph signings as a kid. But the first time I ever met him was actually on the telephone when he called me when I was with the St. Louis Blues. And he was the guy that was like, hey, Tyson, it's Wayne Gretzky. I was like, yeah, a good one. Which one of my idiot buddies is this? And I literally, I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I hung up.

Oh my God. He calls me back. He goes, no, no, no, don't hang up. He goes, seriously, it's Wayne Gretzky. And it was draft day. And he goes, we just made a trade and we traded for you. And I'm part of ownership. And I am so excited to welcome you to the Phoenix coyotes at the time. I'm like, oh my God. I'm like, I was going crazy. Like, first of all, it was Wayne Gratsky. Second of all, not a bad city to go to from St. Louis, right? So that's how I found out. That's the first time you spoke to Wayne? First time. He hung up on him the first time. I hung up on him. Oh, yeah. That's beautiful. Yeah, yeah. It didn't end so great with Wayne. I think I was there like three or four years. He ended up being our coach. And he ended up

letting me go, right? Like ending my, basically ending my NHL career. And he just said, you know, we're going to go in a different direction. I'll never forget being called into his office. And I'm sitting there and I'm like, oh my God, like what is this meeting about? This is kind of weird. You know,

like, this can't be good. Big mahogany desk. And I sit down and he's like, I think he was as upset as I ended up being. I was literally crying on his desk. I'm like, oh my God,

you're sending me down to the minors? Like, are you kidding me? I played like eight years in the NHL and this is it. This is how it ends. And it ends with Wayne Grudski. With the great one. To basically beat it. So we laugh about it now up in Idaho.

And he's like, dude, it was time. Like, you were hurt all the time. I don't think you want to fight that year. Like, it was time. And he also was like, but I'm going to take care of you. And take care of me. He did. He's gotten me and let me be a broadcaster with the team,

traveling around with Gretz. I mean, it was incredible. Like, as hard as it was for my career to end, it was incredible because I'm like, I'm still hanging out with Wayne Gretzky. I'm riding on the plane. you know and every in every game every city that we got to is mandatory you landed and this is why he was the best captain and the best teammate ever because we land and he made it mandatory everyone

except the players had to come down and have a drink at the bar and sit and talk and like that's how you build a bond right and he did it his entire career and he did it with us as broadcasters now he paid that love that yeah yeah he can afford it too yeah yes he can yeah he's doing just Fine. So that was the end, which kind of like weighing at the front end, you know, and the back end. Talk to me through, because I know you had a monster junior career with the Memorial Cups up there, which is like, I guess, the national championship, right, for junior hockey? Yeah.

Up there. And then leading into that from the, to the NHL. Yeah. So I played on, it was kind of like the junior hot, like the Evanton Oilers of junior hockey, right? Like we, I was there four years. I ended up winning three Memorial Cups, which now that my kid played in the league, he's like, holy cow, dad. I can't believe you won one, let alone three. One of only three people ever.

In four years. So like, and it's hard to do because there's so much changeover, right? Every year with players and, you know, aging out and moving on to other teams. So again, I was super blessed to be a part of that organization. The Camloos Blazers, a great place to grow up. I moved there when I was 15. Where is that exactly? So it's just, it's three hours north of Vancouver.

Camloose. Yeah. Oh yeah, yeah, beautiful place. It stunk like a paper mill, right? The big paper mill that employed everybody, but hardworking blue, you know, blue collar people that just loved hockey. And I was a young kid living out my dream.

That's where I ended up get drafted. I think I was pretty much the last draft or draft pick. I think it was like 200 and I don't know what it was. They didn't even have that number anymore. It's gone. But I drafted by the Vancouver Canucks, which was also super cool, being a BC team, just up the road.

and that's where my career kind of started. And then obviously you mentioned play eight years, end up going over to Japan for a year, which we'll get to that incredible organization you're with over there in Japan. But then you roll it over into a TV career. At any point, because we talk about this all the time, like no point during my golf career,

and I ever think, hey, I'm going to do TV one day. Did you ever think maybe you'd get into it? You know what? I was with a buddy yesterday. I think that's how I ended up on the show there, right? Johnny. And we were crushing a, you know, a handle. a crown like we usually do, right, watching some football. And we were like, I'm, I just got him to

kind of explain like your career. And I think they're very similar, right? Like how we kind of had a lot of success early. And then we, we moved on and, you know, had, had great careers. And obviously didn't last as long as some people do. But we both got into TV afterwards. And for me, I, I was always a personality, right? I didn't mind the camera. I didn't mind doing interviews, you know, win or lose. You know, I was just kind of a loud mouth clown in the locker room. And I always had fun. So I, but I didn't know that that's what I was going to end up doing. It wasn't something I was super passionate about or knew a lot about even.

But when my career ended, I had an opportunity. Our president at the time, Doug Moss was like, hey, I know you can probably go on and play. I was, I think, had a try out with the Tampa Bay Lightning. And I was, you know, but I'm like, oh, God, do I really want to drag my family all the way from Phoenix? to Tampa and maybe in the minors and have to prove myself all over again. So he offered me the radio job, got a face for it. So I figured, I'll, I'll try this out. And I loved it. I absolutely loved it. Once I realized that my career was over, right, because you're sitting there going, look at these clowns. I could still play. I can beat that guy up. I could do this. Probably like in

golf, right? You're like, are you kidding me? Like, I can play better than these guys. What am I doing? Why am I on the other side of the line, right? So once, I got over that just fell back in love with it. And then once I started doing TV, it was what I was built for. I felt like. I just loved the passion. And you get that same intensity like you're standing on the blue line again, listening to the national anthem and the lights come on, the TV, and you're going live. You're dressed up. And you're talking hockey. I'm not getting beat up anymore. I'm talking about hockey for a living. That's a pretty great gig. It's awesome. about to land.

Go back to your playing day just for a minute, because you touched on it earlier, but you were described as a quote, unquote, pest. Give us the definition in your mind of a pest, and did you like that label? I did just because I spent so long in the American Hockey League, which is the miners, right? And you're making no dough. I think I was making 30,000 Canadian living in Syracuse, New York. It was like 15 U.S. Yeah.

At that time. The exchange rate was like a buck 60 or something. Like I'm taking home no money. I'm working at Pizza Hut in the off season, right, delivering pizzas to pay for my training and pay for, like, I'm a pro. I'm supposed to be a pro. And I'm like, yeah, this is great, right? I can't believe my wife still stuck around, following me around.

But, you know, that's kind of where it started for me. And I rode that bus. I got beat up every night. You know, you're getting in fights. You're still grinding like you are in the NHL, but you're making no money. So when the coach in the NHL, the National Hockey League, Joel Quinville, came to me and said, okay, we got enough good players, we don't need you.

Like, and I was playing power play. I was scoring 20 goals a year. Like I was putting up pretty good offensive numbers, but he's like, we don't need another offensive guy. We need a guy who can play physical, can hit, can fight, can yap. And they had some of the, I think we had like five Hall of Famers on our team in St. Louis. So he goes, I just want you to be a rat. I want you to be the most hated player in the entire league.

If you can do that, you have a job here for as long as you do that. Otherwise, you're back on the bus eating soggy subs and drinking beers. And I was like, done. Yeah. And I literally, four or five years was the most hated human being on the face of the earth. And the hard part for me, did I like it? No, I didn't like it because it wasn't my personality. Like I'm not that kind of guy, right?

I mean, you know me a little bit. Like, I'm fine. You know, I love the chirp and joke around, but I'm not mean. but when I got on the ice, I was freaking mean. Like I was dirty. I would go after your grandma. I would go after your wife, your girlfriend, your ex-girlfriend. It didn't freaking matter.

I was getting in your grill and I was getting in your head. And by the end of the night, it was so hard because I wasn't that tough. But everyone wanted to freaking kill me. And that was hard because I was scared to death every freaking game. I was like, oh my God, who's going to freaking kill me tonight? Remember what I did last game? It's coming tonight. Who do you think hated you the most?

most. Oh, God. There was a lot of guys. Sean Avery, we hated. I told him this morning, we were talking about a pest. I was like, one of the first guys I learned about that when I was in Dallas was Sean Avery. And how every, I mean, I remember he came and played a preseason game in Dallas when we were there. And the entire team fought him, I think. Right. His own team too. Yeah. I mean, everybody hate, yeah. You kind of wanted him on your team because he pissed everyone else up, but my God, did they hate him. Yeah. And they kind of hated him on his own team. That's where I kind of different. It was a little bit different for me. I was a likable guy. for the most part.

But it's a tough thing to do, right? Like, especially when you're not tough. Like, you know that someone's going to get you eventually. And they did, hence the nose. This is the big. This is well earned. Oh, yeah. That's not a joint in it.

It's not an elbow. But it was a grind every night. And, you know, I had guys obviously to help me out. Kelly Chase, Tony Twist, read low. I played with some of the toughest guys ever. And I made, they actually thanked me because they were like, now I don't have to go out and just stage a fight, right? I don't have to go out and just challenge a guy

and fight a guy for no reason. Now I'm pissed because they've been punching the shit out of your face all night long. Now I can go beat their ass, right? But I had diplomatic plates with those guys also. I could do and say whatever I wanted. Oh yeah. That's a luxury.

That's nice. And it's great out there's like a role for that. Like guys like we don't need you to score. I just need you to piss off every single person. Like that's a role and that's a valuable role. And I got paid well for it. Which is wow because any other sports like, If there's one fight, it's like multiple games suspension.

But in hockey, it's like, yeah, we need one. Right. We need one right now. And imagine, like, there's such a, like, there's such a means to the madness, right? Like, people are like this fighting in hockey, but it's, there's such a purpose for all of it. Like, imagine if you go around the golf course, chirping, chirping guys. And fighting? Like, while they're Tying off.

You're like, you know, while they're swinging. It's like the advantage you would have, right? And we're allowed to do that. In fact, it's encouraged, right? So you get people off their game that they're so worried. about killing me that they're not worried about scoring goals, right? Like I'd have my stick in Stevie Eisenman's glove and like whacking him on the back of the legs and he'd be like, where is that prick?

I'm going to freaking like, and he'd take a dumb penalty against me and we'd score on the power player and it'd be like, yeah. Earn that check. Earned that check. Oh, yeah. Who would you say in today's NHL kind of reminds you? Yeah, who's a pest? Oh, I would say probably that Kachucks.

Okay. But, I mean, talk about unreal players, right? I mean, and that was kind of why my career also ended is because I didn't really evolve enough as a player, right? I started, I went from a skill guy in the American League and the minors to just a guy who playing eight, 10 minutes a night running around, frigging shit out there. And I kind of lost my game a little bit, my touch on the puck and all the things you need in the league. But I would say probably Matthew Kachuk is probably. What about, I know he's like very good and he scores. I feel like another guy that gets.

gets in a lot of people's kitchens like brad marchion oh yeah i mean people just want to punch him yeah yeah yeah and he's got a a punchable face right he just want to fold that nose right over actually it probably end up on the back of his head like mine but yeah we were we were similar mouthpieces he's probably a better example of that but again he can play too yeah he can score 90 100 points a year this guy gets on top of doing all that hockey's my favorite man it's the best it's the best yeah eight seasons you played denominy uh penalty minutes you accumulated right here in fact currency of the internet

I don't know 6773 minutes with your best year being 99,000 you place top 20 and penalty minutes with 150 it's well done yeah big mouth that's nice big mouth oh yeah yeah that was closed many many a nights you get put more in the penalty box when you played

or at home now yeah well you know you know how that goes you know yeah a little bit of both yeah I'm still I could still get pretty mild healthy at home for sure. But yeah, it was well earned. But that was like a badge of honor too, right? When you had penalties.

For your role, right? That's like kind of expected. And over 100 penalty minutes. I mean, that is a respectable number. I mean, I didn't take a lot of dumb penalties. Those were either fighting majors or, you know, coincidentals. I was taking another guy with me.

But it was fun. I miss those days. Another guy that's done awful well since hanging him up in the TV world. Biznasty, Paul Bisnett, who we've had on this show. Have you? Yeah. Many moons ago.

He was very early on. And one of our guys out here actually said he filmed a sandbagging episode with you. Yes. Poor guy watching and witnessing that. You've seen it before. You and Biz having to chase y'all's golf balls around. That had to been special. But tell us a little bit about your relationship with Biz.

I actually watched an interview way back in the day when he was still playing. And you were doing it right before the season started. And he was still running around L.A. having a good old time. Oh, yeah. Yeah. We traveled together on the road, too, because he was doing radio. I was doing TV and so we yeah that I'm glad that ended because he's he's a dangerous man But he's just he's what you see is what you get right he's just not a care in the world

He's he's like the Howard Stern of of hockey and broadcasting I mean some of the stories he tells I tell those stories I'm fired but it seems to work just fine with with this and he gets more popular With everything he does I just think he's all about entertainment right he's what the people want to see this guy is like Like I hung out with Wayne Gretzky a lot. But now like I hang on with Biss. It is absolutely nuts. The kids, the girls, the like the women, like the grandmas, the moms, the hockey the hockey dads, everyone absolutely worships and loves this guy.

He walks into a room or a bar or a restaurant. Everyone's like, oh my God. Like you can't even, you might as well just say, okay, Bisk, go over there and talk to those people. And yeah, especially around here. Now with the incident that happened recently down the road, I mean, he's gotten so much pub for this. Oh, what incident? I said he was just on inside the NBA talking about it.

With Barclay and him, he's gotten so much run out of this. It's just for him, by the way. Everything he does makes him more popular. Good or bad, right? Like, and good for him. I'm just happy he's okay, first and foremost. I mean, that was a scary. Oh, God.

He sat me down and we went through the whole situation. I actually had him on my show right after it happened, and his face was still mangled up. I mean, he takes a bad kick to the head, and he's still wearing that, right? Yeah, you see the video? I mean, took some show. I've seen it all and I know like he's giving Houston's a lot of credit but I'm like where was the manager and the guys from Houston's coming out to help him or anybody else or anybody else like

this guy out like he literally like yeah do you see what he said to Barclay on T&T he's like yeah I didn't know Charles was there having dinner but he wouldn't step away from his artichoke dinner to come happen help me Charles was first time you know any artichoke did that's way too Those two, by the way, are, that's like Charles can say anything. Oh, you can get away with it. Now, Biz is the hockey version of us. He is. He is.

And we need it. I think it's so good for our game. And obviously, he's just, he's an awesome dude. But he's really figured out what's working. And we need to grow our game. Because to your point, I mean, you're a huge hockey fan, but we need to turn everyone else into it and show them how good this game is. And the people in it, that's the best part of it at all.

I get so frustrated when I interview players. I don't know if it's the same for you guys. but I'm like, can you show a little personality? Yeah, there's, I know you're unreal dudes. Like, I know, because I'm in the locker and with you guys. I know you're great. Just show it. It's your brand.

You're 100% right. Do you think some of that, because we run into the same thing. Some guys are great. They're electric like you. The personality boom, pop some. I'm like, dude, I know you. Like be like you are when there's not a camera. But do you think some of it is that they're scared of like saying,

oh, I want to be fun. I want to tell a story. And like saying one wrong thing because the way it's been, and it's kind of coming off that. But like, you can get canceled. like sponsorships, things like that. Like it's almost, it's like the juice not work to squeeze. I could try to be real likeable,

but if I slip up one time and say something dumb, it's going to cost me. Yeah. And I think early, especially early on, like when I was finishing up and my early years of broadcasting, it's like Twitter just kind of came out. Right?

So players were like on it, kind of, but like quiet about it. And managers and coaches were like, you know, like watching their Twitter accounts and like, hey, don't be too popular or don't think you're too great

or don't this and that, right? Like, it was almost like, it was like a shot against you if you had social media, right? Now it's completely flipped. And now they're trying to encourage it and trying to, you know, promote yourself, promote the team, you know, promote your teammates.

So it's completely flipped. It's so funny, all of it's flipped, right? Like the whole world. Like, remember we couldn't gamble on stuff? Oh, my God. I remember every spot, every segment's brought to you by. I remember Rick Talkett was our, was our coach. He got suspended.

He was gone. He got fired. Like he almost went to jail. And he wasn't gambling on hockey. He was gambling on football. And I'm like, now it's all we talk about. Smoke weed, do this, gamble on this, gamble on that. But even Kurt Warner was on a gambling commercial.

I know Kurt from St. Louis. He coached my son in football. And he's talking about gambling. But he's like, but if you got a problem, he called this number. Text this number. Oh, my God. I'm like, what's going on with our world? It's wild.

You mentioned trying to get more people to love hockey. Tony Fino, who's a big Utah guy. I played with him the other day. He's been to a couple games this year. He goes, man, I'd never been to a hockey game. It's my favorite live sport there is. He's obsessed now. And he's down.

Ryan has him down on the glass. Which is so funny to me because the glass seats are the worst seats in the whole building. If you want to see the whole thing. Right. If you actually know about hockey, you're like, get me out of here. What am I doing? Like, I can't see anything. But they love it down there.

Ryan loves it. It's the action. The fights. I think there was a big fight too that broke out right in front of them, the one game that I saw him there. I took Gary Woodland. to his first ever NHL game, and it was the stars against the penguins. It was seven to five, the stars won, and there were seven fights.

Sidney Crosby fought. And he's like, this is the greatest thing ever. This does not happen every night, okay? Just so you know. Yeah, yeah. And like, I wish every sport had it. Yeah. Can you imagine basketball?

There's seven footers going to center court and going, let's go. I'm sick of you, you know, picking on our skill player or whatever. And then you figure out who's tough. Yeah. Let them go for a little bit. Let's see how tough you are with that big mouth when you actually got to eat a puncher to me. Yeah, they all get to chirp and then people get in between them and they act up.

Nothing ever happens in hockey. Like you actually, okay, you ready? Let's go. And do like tripping. Reach out and there's a mix up and you trip somebody. Like that's a suspension. Oh, yeah. You know what I mean?

I'm like in hockey, they like embrace it. I don't know how. How many games are they get suspended for in basketball? They fight. Oh, an actual fight? Multiple. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

I mean, assuming you don't go in the stands, like mouse in the palace. That's like a big. You start beating up fans. It's a season. Yeah, yeah. Like each other? Yeah, multiple games. Yeah.

We get five minutes. You get it for like an excessive flagrant. We get five minutes in the penalty box, which is a well-needed rest after you actually- Cheers and goes nuts. And your team loves you. It's the biggest thing. Like Dana White says it all the time because these guys are athletes. But why?

Why are they trying to like not promote fighting? He goes, look at UFC. Most popular sport in the world. He goes, because they fight. And hockey's no different. The fans cheer the loudest when the fight. fights, hits, and then goals in that order. You're right.

We need more of it. Well, it was his last name of Rimpi that came to the Rangers? Unbelievable. He was a goddamn hero in New York when he came up there last year. The Rempire State Building. It's the best nickname in the world. This guy is, what is he? Six-eight or something, six seven.

Beat everyone's ass. Oh, yeah. And he's just figuring out how to fight, by the way. But they got shirts and Jersey. And him on a building like the gorilla. That's sick. It's insane. I mean, that's promotion.

I mean, our man, Kami, back in the, day with the big red fro i mean he was a legend yeah he was all the fighters are the ones that are like the most beloved what's the penalty box like because like it's the only thing i can think of in sports where you are like right next to what is half the time opposing fans oh yeah there's got be some wild shit that goes on those guys do run the penalty box they all should write books yeah for what goes on and what's said like now it's a little different because there's cameras everywhere and microphones picking up all that stuff but i love it but it was ruthless you're in there and oh my god like if you got to have some pretty thick skin to yeah i think that's like

i mean that's got to be a lot yeah the league's getting a little softer now um the kids the chirping you know when i used to broadcast between the benches i'm like come on that's lame kind of like dig way deeper than that this is what you should say yeah exactly here's my notebook when i played go go with this one that is so awesome that's funny a lot of like the these like when they get out they're like oh the game now it's way softer and in most cases it's true like look at football, look at basketball, it is it? But you think is hockey going that? It's got to be the least, though, of the sports, right?

Yeah, I mean, it still is what it is, but you do have to protect these guys. I mean, we're seeing what's happening with concussions and all that. And, you know, everyone always thinks, well, it's from the fighting. I'm like, no, it's not from the fighting. If you've ever want to see a movie, Kelly Chase was the producer, director, it was the gladiator. Watch that show. That tells you all you need to know about fighting in the league. It's actually the exact opposite.

like all the concussions happened first of all it was the glass like you're skating 30 miles an hour into a concrete wall basically and the glass that we used to have was the seamless glass for the fans but it never gave so it was like concrete you hit your head against that and you're out right instantly and then the equipment we used to wear is like bulletproof so you're wearing these big shoulder pads with these sharp hard plastic elbow pads you get hit with that and you again you're done so they're changing and evolving all of that, right, to make it, in fact, less protective so that if you are and we're going to hit that full speed at Center Ice, it's going to hurt a little bit, right? Otherwise, you feel invincible.

Slees took a run at Ray Whitney one day on the ice. I was almost ended his last. I slowed up at the end. I was like, I don't need to go between your legs. I don't need to take a life out here. We're just having a good time. So I slowed up and kind of grazed him from the side. Still, moved him, by the way.

We did a little challenge over at the ice dam where Slees had to put on all the gear. I've never skated, never done shit in my life. but I took some bets under the influence. He skated around and then had to shoot some pucks, and then the last one was going to be, he gets to go blue line to blue line, and Ray has to stand there, and he just runs into him.

And Ray watched him skate around one time. He goes, I don't need pads. He didn't even put on a helmet. Little fucker didn't even put on a helmet. I took that as an insult. You got a small guy either. By the way, when I was going, I didn't go, like, all the way to the blue.

I probably had, like, 20 yards. And in my mind, I was like, I am fucking flying right now. I'm like, I'm going to. You can actually feel the beach. I was like, I'm going to hurt, like, I could, I didn't know if I wanted to hit him with my shoulder to wrap him, but I was like, I figured it out in the moment. And then I saw the video back and I'm like, I was going four miles an hour. It was so sad. I really felt like I was going almost too fast.

It just bounced off Ray. I fell, Ray didn't fall. His skates did move, by the way, so I won. Oh, I had all the stuff. We'll show you the video. You're invincible in that stuff, by the way. It's fun. Yeah, right.

It is fun. It is fun. It is fun. He really liked the way it smelled. Oh, the gloves. And he gave me this helmet that is like fucking wild. in wild wild wild wild wild wild wild beast and taking a shit

apparently like before I put I was like this is honestly like I might pass out before I even get to the ice like none of the stuff I put on I was convinced was washed in the last three weeks you have a can on what's that you have a can no because we weren't going to have like you know there was only one hit

that was taking place so but all the other stuff and I was like took it off at the end I was like dude I need like to be sterilized yeah I think it's awesome when people like non-hockey people realize how oh You like to get dressed in the equipment, right?

Like, they don't understand. They're fascinated by it when they see it. It's a little. It's different. Freck it's like a lot. And then you see Ray moving around and he's going half speed, Matt, you know what I mean? I'm like, you get a different. I'm like, dude, I'm like, dude.

And Ray's like a smaller dude. You get some big guys moving like that. I mean, it's fast. Yeah. Oh, yeah. When you're down. McDavid skate around there. I mean, it looks like, I mean, it's a video game.

It's like Superman. It's like an F-16 fighter plane. There's all these like, you want to come out. I'm like, you want us to stop that? Yeah, I'm glad I'm retired. Hey, yeah, stop that guy. Yeah, the further you get away to, the more you're like, good. I don't have to.

I just get to talk about it. Oh, yeah, now I, yeah. Perfect. Everyone sucks. Shorts are shaking up your voice. It's all right. It's all right. We got a bulge cam right here.

You got to put a sock in the front there. We're trying to get a few more female fans. Good Lord. We have to put a little parental advisory on the front of this one. It's cold in here, too. Tell us about your golf game. Are we playing? right now. God, buddy. You know, actually better. Actually better. I have no idea why, but I am the worst

golfer with the most expensive golf membership on the face of God's earth. Gowser Ranch, Idaho. Oh my God. Like, yeah, shout out. Thank you. But they let anyone play out there apparently. Melminton will knock 200 bucks off your bill for that. Yeah, exactly. That's worth something. Just free cart fees once in a while. I love it. No one loves golf more than me. I feel like I just love getting out there with the boys, right? Like, I don't care how bad I play. I won't hold you up. I'll be fun and I'll make the odd good shot,

but just so inconsistent story. It's the hardest game on the planet, right? I mean, even for an athlete, I can't figure out what side I am. I played left for the longest time. Now I'm back to right. I'm still putting left. I'm like, I'm just a, honestly, like just a mental mess. Yeah, we're going to get into your golf back here a little bit.

That's insanity. They're both sides, but yeah, we'll touch on that. But you mentioned up at Gaza. I mean, you play with the boys. Gretz is up there, John Elway, Morrow, Ray Whitney. Yep. You get in there and gamble with the boys? I kind of, that's the 10-10 tea time that Ryan, our owner's involved in.

Apparently, he's dragged a lot of dough out of that group. He needs it. Good for him. Yeah, he's struggling. He's struggling. Yeah. He wants to get the 15 billion instead of 14. That's why you get all those good swag bags.

Yeah, I know. I know, I know, I know. I don't play with the big boys yet. I don't want to embarrass. I get so nervous. Like on the first tee, I'm like, like I'm going to hit one sideways

and kill somebody, right? Like it's, golf is like, I don't know. It's, I'm just inconsistent. I should be better. I'm supposed to be an athlete.

I'm supposed to have hand-eye coordination. Hockey players are typically good golfers. Yeah, they can at least hit it normally. Yeah. Yeah. When I do, when it's not sideways,

I'm decent. I like Army golf. Love right. Look at Holy, Moro, and whiz. I mean, they can play. J.R.,

I mean, Clayton Keller. I think he's a He's pretty decent Moro Modano Yeah Madonna's nice

He plays in all Madonna should be the best hockey player golfer But he's fucking lunatic Mental midges Is he? Oh dude He's the most fragile

Brained human being He's been my member member partner up here A couple of times And it takes One shot That's not perfect And he's like

Checking his swing Doing all that It just melts down You could put him On the range At a tour event And no one would be like That guy's not supposed to be here

Yeah But then you put him on the first T and it is like holy shit things just start happening i don't it's amazing yeah he's a he's like he's like he's like what i'm like he's like i'm like you just hit a bad shot he's like i'm here but i want to feel here and i'm like dude this is too much just like yeah he's like hockey turn the wild the guy's good the cup bow cup he explained to me one day oh yeah cup of the cup here bow at the top the cup on the way down i'm like oh my god that's what you're thinking that's what you're thinking that's what you're thinking about there's a lot of stuff going on he misses puts and just

It's actually really fun to see. But it's so funny. Yeah. I mean, for us. But he's so, like, genuinely talented.

Like, he could be a plus, whatever and win all these, like, total man rocket. Like, like, good-sized freaking dude.

Yeah. Oh, all the shit. The best American-born player. Probably ever. One of the very few guys that looks good, bronzed is his bronze. His bronze.

Bernalto looked like shit bronzed. He's tanned. He's very tanned. Yeah. Yeah. My mom used to drive me around when I was a kid to go to autograph signings. And it wasn't for me. It was not for it.

It was not for me. Mom, we just got it last week. Why did it get way more humid in Dallas all of a sudden, mom? Damn. Fucking unbelievable, Madonna. That's a huge fan. A huge fan.

Should we get to like the E13? Can you make it out to Lulu? So we're going to do an E9. For you, we got a couple extra. There's going to be like the E14. No one loves the emergency nine more than me. That's why I really. lose money.

Okay. Well, let me, we're going to mix this up because you're a happily married man and this could lead into my perfectly into my next one. But celebrity crush may be growing up or now. Oh, geez. That's, that's an easy one. Well, for hockey, it was grats. No, a female.

We're looking for a female. Female. Maybe it's the same one. Nicole Kidman. Could you possibly maybe tell us about the first time you, uh, never came upon Nicole Kidman. Oh, okay. Okay.

Where did that come from? You were digging deep. Did you have more game in the Memorial Cup or when you met Nicole Kidman? Oh, my God. Tell us about this little. Here we go. Nicole Kidman. Yeah.

He's blushing. Boyes. Yeah. I didn't think it was possible. And no one believes me. Here's the beauty of it. No one freaking believes me. And I wouldn't believe me either.

I didn't even believe it. I'm with Medano. I'm with Mike Madano and Daryl Sador and our wives. So our wives are with us. Madano's girlfriend at the time. And we're in the, we go out, what is it? The POMS, the Ghost Bar?

Yeah, yeah. So we're up at the Ghost Bar and we're having some cocktails. And we got bottle service at this little thing because I'm with Mike Medano and he's a Hall of Famer. And all of a sudden, like this entourage walks in the ghost bar. And we're kind of standing there off to the side right before you go outside to that glass floor, right? So I'm standing there and I'm like, oh my God.

I'm like, oh my God, that's Nicole. Frickin' kidman. I'm like, holy crap. I'm like, so I'm like getting all nervous. I'm sucking. Oh, my eighth drink now, eh? And I'm feeling good. I'm like, all right.

This is my chance. And she's walking right towards us. I'm like, how cool is this? Like, all of a sudden, freaking, I'm like looking at her and we lock eyes. Like, I'm like, oh my God, what's going on? And she walks by and looks at me the whole way. I'm with Mike Madanel. Like the biggest man rocket.

in the NHL. Man, doesn't even get a look, not a sniff. Are you sure she was staring at you and not? Unless she's bunged. Unless she's totally bunged. I figured she was looking at me.

Okay. And Madonna looks at me, he goes, oh my God, she's freaking looking at you. I'm like, I know. I know.

Oh, I swear she was. I swear she was. And I feel like an idiot because my wife's right beside me, right? And I'm like, and I said,

I go, oh my God, she was looking at me. She goes, yeah, good one. As if, like no freaking chance.

Like, have another drink, right so they go and sit down and madano goes you won't go talk to her and i go oh my god you i'm the last guy you want to challenge right so i'm like okay i'm gonna go talk to her so i get my drink and i walk and i start walking over towards them and they're sitting on the couch over there and literally you got to walk down that path right to the to the to the bathroom is into the elevator and she's off to the side and i walk and i walk and she looks at me again and i'm like oh my god oh my god i got so nervous I walk past them because I'm like, I can't walk up.

Plus she's got like eight bodyguards. And like, I'm like, they're going to murder me, right? If I even step foot in their circle. So I walk past her. And now I'm standing there. I'm like, oh my God, oh my God. Like, should I go talk to her? What should I do?

I'm looking at Medana when they're like, you're a loser. They're like, you know, give me all the stuff. They get up and they're going to walk out. And now they're going to again walk right past me. So I'm standing off to the side. And she walks up and she stops. and she turns and she's looking at me and I'm like, I love your work.

I love your work. That's what you went with. I love your work is what I went with. She literally looked at me and she goes, see you later. And literally walked out. That was it. That was your chance.

That was it. You went with the most generic, the worst line. I don't even know what it was. It might have worked better if you said, I hate your work. Yeah. Like something,

anything, right? Like, but I'm like, it was a big moment. It was the coolest thing in the world. That's a big moment. is freaking beautiful. Like, like, but the worst part is like, my wife's like, you're an idiot.

Her crush is Brady. She knows mine was Nicole Kidman. So she's like, go ahead, talk to her. You had that moment, which can never be taken. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So I love that. We lost my kids.

Several times. So good. I'm a loser. That's good. All right. I'm going to ask you one because eventually based on the other questions, I'm going to ask you to know, find out who the source was. So this is the.

person but I want you to see if you can name who said this about you when I called asking for some stuff okay quote Tyson Nash is the only guy who can smoke a cigarette in the shower and the cigarette won't get wet who's that from yeah you know is it local uh I just he said that he'll name one of two names I'll tell you it is after this I'll give you one guest though it's got to be Ray witty it's not whip but that's probably a good one there was two other names that were mentioned If it's not weird, it's got to be Madano. It's not. No?

You want me to give it to you? Yeah. Dave Scatchett. Oh my God. Yeah. I don't even know you knew Skatchett. It was a beauty. Who's got a bigger nose than mine, by the way?

Holy geez. Like his last contract, they were like, hey, Dave, you want a nose full of nickels or a million dollars? And you know what he took. That's what he said. He's like, dude, he just bagged each other about the noses. Yeah. So he made four million that year with the nickels. That's good.

Oh, that's good. Going back to your golf game, do you think you're the only person in the history of golf to play with a half left-handed set and a half-handed set? Yeah, it's embarrassing, right? The time we played at Westbrook, you literally showed up with half and half, and I'm like, But how talented is that? I could win a lot of money if I said, hey, I'll play a left-handed. How do you decide which ones are going to be left or which one will be right? You know who it was Pat Perez?

Pat was my neighbor in Greyhawk for a long time, and we'd always go out golfing. And his coach or his caddy or I can't remember who he was, but obviously a smart. hockey dude or a golf guy and he was like dude you cannot be this bad right-handed like you're an athlete you have to be left-handed swing it left hand what which way do you bat i'm like left he goes which way do you play hockey left he goes then you're left like you're left he goes to just do it and i did it he goes you're left-handed so the next day i've got to be the clubs got all the clubs got all the lefties and then gradually move my way back to right now i'm all right now you're all right now instead Okay.

My putting left. That makes it easier, I feel like. Yeah. And when I get nervous, like in tournaments, I go right down to the left and I do the, so I take the yips out of it, right? Like a hockey stick, I just, z-z. I love that so much. How's that on the big break?

I saw that on the big break. Some guy did it. Wow. Big break. You are a golf fan. Yeah, you are. But as you say, Medano. Yeah.

Didn't Medano shoot left-handed? And he plays golf right-handed? I know. Maybe he should play left-handed. But Gretz plays left-handed. Right? Golf? Yeah.

I thought he played right. No, he's a lefty. Lefty hockey, lefty golf. Yeah, it feels like that would make sense. If you're in slap shots one way, that's the closest thing that didn't a golf ball, feel like you do the same one. And it did. It felt like way more natural left-handed over the ball.

But also, Wayne Gretzky is Wayne Gretzky. No offense, you aren't Wayne Gretzky. Doesn't mean you have to do what he does. Validport. Yeah. Validport. See, that was my problem as a kid. I tried to play like it in my whole life.

It didn't work out so well. Okay, I give you one here. Bonus ball. describe your living conditions while playing for the Syracuse crush and if you had any illegal pets. Scatchard. Yeah. We got some good scatchez. You got very willing friends.

So we lived in this house. This thing was the biggest dump you've ever seen. We lived on campus. Like we thought we were college kids, right? And we were so cheap. And I had to be cheap because I made no money. But like to keep the heat in, we'd saran wrap the windows. Remember how they used to do that back in the day?

Oh, my God. The heat in? Oh, yeah. And we had this squirrel And it was started out Like a little squirrel At the start of the year Up in our attic

And by the end of the year I'd go up there and feed it Like literally And we by the end of the year We got the thing All the way down into the apartment Where we trained it And it would eat the food

Like peanuts all the way down the stairs And one time I brought The booster clubbers Give me a birthday cake So I brought it up there And by the end of the Like it wasn't like On the floor anymore

It was like boom Boom boom This frame freaking squirrel was the fattest thing you've ever freaking seen in your life. So that was our... Raised a squirrel. Yeah, that was our pet. It told me that you also ran, wrap the windows.

And then the winter you had to... It's so cold there. It was like, we had to turn on the oven and open it. And that was the way we heated the place. And it was so cold. You couldn't go to the bathroom in the night, right? Because you'd freeze. It was all like tile.

So the tile is freezing. So I just take a big bottle. And I just lean over and just like, fill it up and pee in the bottle, right? Pro hockey, dude. Pro hockey. But we had these heaters. So Dave had this heater that he'd blow on him all night, right?

So I took my bottle over there one night when he was passed, when he was passed out. I put my pee bottle right in front of his heater that blew on him all night long. He woke up. He's like, oh my God, what does that smell? I'm like, I don't know who did that, Dave. That's damn squirrel, dude. Yeah, exactly. Well, after your NHL career ended up, you actually went over to Japan.

for a little bit. Nippon? Nippon paper cranes. Okay, so more intimidating mascot, the El Paso Chihuahuas or the Nippon paper cranes. That's a good name, the paper cranes. Is that like an origami thing? Yeah, I don't know what it was, to be honest. They were like, it was crazy.

It was a U.S. company, too, out of Seattle. Really? Oh, yeah. Like, it was, and like, the funny part is that we were hockey players and the hockey team, but we would go to all the company functions and parties and, like, hang out with the businessman. And, and, and, like, and, like, the funny part of, and, and, and, and, and, like, And stuff.

Like, it was like, it was so bizarre. It was honestly one of the coolest experiences of my life, though. And the culture and the people and just all of it. I was blown, absolutely blown away. Just very, very kind people. I went to Tokyo for the first time just a few months ago. Yeah. I mean, awesome.

And everywhere they leave you those little paper cranes and origami stuff. Rapungi? Yeah. They dragged you out of repungi. I've heard about that place. But at a serious, how about the food over there? Insane. It's unbelievable.

It's the sushi and the beef. It's just absurd. Yeah. If you've, yeah, you have sushi here and then you go there and you're like, like it's, I mean, and some of the other stuff we had too. Like, we ate like cow intestine is a huge delicacy over there like that you cook yourself. Like not a fan. They put the hot plate right in front of it. And it's a big pile of intestine.

I'm like, bo. Intestine. And they're just like, wow. Like sucking it up and monkey brain we had. Oh, God. No. China. One night.

It was interesting. We went to one of those little places where you cook it in Friday, and they brought out four different types of wago, and it was like the greatest thing ever, just the thin slice and just. Yeah, and reasonable. Like, everything's like, maybe not Tokyo so much. No, it was.

Yeah. We had a bottle of sake and there's four different types of wago, a couple apps thought it was going to be a, it was $120 American. Yeah. That's nice. And everything's clean. And you don't.

Yeah. And you don't tip. Yeah. But the streets are clean. Did you go and have the, uh, the sumo wrestler's soup though? No. I saw some sumo wrestlers, though. Oh, my God.

Like, we would go to, like, a couple of those events. And these guys, they get fat on purpose, right? Like, and we go to this restaurant and all the sumos eat there, right? So you come in there, you eat this bowl, and it's like a big lard of fat in this thing. It's the best thing you've ever tasted in your life. But it, like, the way they cook it, I guess, and all of it, like, it's like 8,000 calories in that bowl of soup. It's just fat soup. Oh, yeah.

And they have three of them. Oh, yeah. Like, by the end of the year, I was, like, skinny fat. I mean, you can't get like that just being a normal, like how big they, you got to, I think you got to, yeah, you got to try to get there. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Those guys are massive human beings. But athletes, like, you want to talk about athletes.

Those guys are scary human beings. Why don't you just find one of the biggest sumos and throw them in net, throw them in goal? Yeah. Oh, I know. Makes sense, right? And their athletes. And any team tried that. Just find the biggest, fattest man in the world and flop them right there.

They're flexible. They do it in cartoons all the time. Exactly. Yeah. Should be around to something. It's fine. You can be a hockey team. Tell Ryan, I might need to get on the payroll.

And then triple wide. Imagine those, you know. Unless they could squeeze it right here. Right. Yeah. It ain't happening. Stop. They don't have to be good.

I want to know about this. What happened to your car that you drove in Syracuse? My car? Was it yours? No, it was. It was Scatch. It was Dave Scatch. Okay, it was Scatch.

Tell him to tell the story about the car. So he buys this car. I couldn't afford a car. So he buys this car. And he's driving it around and we're driving it around. and we're in Olive Garden. I'll never forget it. We ate at Olive Garden every pregame meal

because you get the free salad. You get the free breadsticks, right? So his phone rings. And literally, he's like, I got to catch a flight. So he catches a flight. Like, he like takes a taxi and rips out there. And he leaves his car in the Olive Garden parking lot for the entire season and forever.

Never came back and got it. Never came back for it. And he didn't give it to me. He didn't like nothing. I'm like, can I at least have? it like and honestly it was like the most insane thing ever where we still have no idea where that car is yeah that's what he said asked me if he actually knows where it went he got called up right he was like hey we need you 10 nights we was just out of there of course gone left the

shit took the keys with him never and and left somebody jacket probably i got a ride home from one of our other teammates and that was that was the end of it it was so funny because every time we drive by there or go there we'd see his car and then all of a sudden like a month later it was gone and it was We never saw it again. Oh, that's beautiful. I mentioned we had Biz on the show, and he actually introduced us to the term Bambied when you get punched on the ice

and he looked like Bambit, trying to walk around. Who Bambied you? Oh, who didn't Bambi me? Who got you the best? Oh, man. Probably, and he never knocked me out, thank goodness, because it would have been really embarrassing. But, I mean, I got knocked out probably three or four times

in my NHL career on top of my minor league career on top of my junior career. That's what people don't understand, right? Is that I had, I think I had 27 fights in the National Hockey League, but I had 10, 15 fights a year in every other league on the way up, right? So you win some and you lose some. So we fought, I'll never forget, we were playing Chicago, and I absolutely hammer Bob Probert, like, hammer him.

And I separated his shoulder, and we ended up kind of fighting that night a little bit. I was so pissed off, though, because I never got a five-minute major. with Bob Probert. Like how cool would that have been, right? One of the toughest guys to ever play the game and to have a fight with him. I kind of humped his leg and I was like, I turtled and I figured, you know,

I was like, oh my God, don't hit me, Mr. Probert. But I heard him. He left the game and we ended up blowing Chicago that game. There's 40 seconds left in the game and my freaking coach and I've been running around all night, running my mouth.

This guy, Steve Thomas, jumps over the boards. And he's old. He's at the end of his career. and he's a littler guy and I don't know the history on him that well and he goes we're going to go on the face off he goes we're going whether you like it or not we're going I said

absolutely I go I've always wanted to beat up my dad I'm like how freaking old are you old man I'm like I cannot wait do I get a senior discount or what and the puck dropped we drop our gloves we square off he hit me with about 10 lefts before I even knew what was happening. My nose was on the side of my face. My eye was swelled shut and I am like, I am in one. I got knocked down. I got back up and I don't even think I threw a punch. And this is in St. Louis, my hometown, like where I play, right? And it's sold out. End of the game.

I literally skated to the locker room after. I was so embarrassed because I just got beat up by a shrimp. Like the guy was just 10. An old shrimp too. Old, yeah, old raisin, right? And we laugh about it now to this day. Like we, I see him in the press box at games and stuff. He's like, he's like, hey, hey son. How are you? Oh, he's got to see you out. And he's out. He's out and he's out and he's out of the building. Oh, yeah. But the good part about it was Jamal Mayers, who was my teammate. He goes, dude, I grew up watching that guy in Toronto. Like his nickname is thumpy for a reason. Like, how do you not know that? Like just ask me. And I'm like, well, I didn't know I was going to have to fight him, you know? Like, but that's

a lesson for everybody. Do your homework. Comey told a good one about how he, this guy squared off against him and he was a little guy as well it was like national television like Calgary Toronto he's like God this guy said you want to go and he's like do I ever like I'm about to embarrass you on national television we'll come to find out the guy

was like a golden gloves boxer and hit comedy like seven times and he had no idea where it came from knocked that frig of big afro off his head eh it can happen I mean I don't care who you are how tough you are there's always someone Do you see the guy do the Superman punch in like the age yeah that would be exit that was so sick

the Superman punch you know like Superman punch you know like Superman punch and UFC? Like where you jump? Oh, where you joan? Like, yeah. Well, he did it on ice and was just skating at the guy and just jumped and just jumped him, boom, and caught him. And buckle him.

Yeah. Dirt nap. Yeah. Ice nap. One hitter. Yeah. This doesn't count as a question. But if someone comes up like that and says, hey, I want to fight.

Like, you can't say no, right? Hell, you can. Like, it would have some massive dude came up as like, Nash, I need one. Where are you going to be like, no, dude, I don't know. No. There's 40 seconds left. That was the beauty for me because I was a smaller guy. I didn't have to fight those guys, right?

worse than being a Mike Commodore and he's huge and he's like I can't say no yeah like someone asked me to fight I kind of have to right and he's not skilled enough to you know to say no either right Tommy said you said your shit yeah yeah so I I said no plenty but I would have to fight three times a game if I didn't yeah so yeah I'll ask you one that's kind of similar to the one colt just asked but like we know about biz a good jump by a bunch of dorks outside Houston he's a tough one to run into like these guys obviously don't know shit about hockey or anything like he's not the one he's not the right one but if there was a worst guy ever that they could have run into an hl guy getting jumped by a pack of losers who would it be well first of all that's like the price is right

you pick the wrong door on that one yeah that was a bad right like of all the guys and he dropped a couple when we said yeah um but oh there's so many there's first of all there there's a few different ones. Kelly Chase is probably one of pound for pound, one of the toughest guys to ever play. And if you ever saw him in a bar a restaurant, you'd be like, let's freaking go. And shout out to Kelly Chase. He's going through some shit right now. Thinking about you, my man.

Yes. Yeah, so leukemia is getting he's getting the bone marrow transplant with his brother. He's a stud. I think as we speak, yeah. So he's a stud. Tough as they come in a real big fight right now. But Kelly Chase, but Tony Twist would be the

guy. He was one of the toughest guys, probably top three to ever play in the game. The problem is if you saw him off the ice, he looks that tough. Like his knuckles hang down to the ground. And when you look at his hands, they're literally like, that's one hand.

Yeah. And his knuckles are all sideways and, you know, so you wouldn't even, if you saw him, you'd be like, no, it's like the guys with cauliflower ears.

You see? You're like, I'm going to sit this one out, boys, you guys go ahead. But another guy I played with, his name's Troy Crowder. And we were talking about this yesterday

with our buddy Johnny. This guy looks like an accountant. He's 6'5, but look him up. Troy Crowder. And this guy is a pretty boy. And you would think you were going to mop the ground, especially if you saw him in a restaurant and he was sitting down. And people have made this mistake before.

He's from Sudbury, Ontario, which is a tough, tough town in Canada. And he literally would cave your face in. And he did it to a lot of people. But you would not think twice if he challenged you off the ice. There's a bunch of those dudes. I mean, I look at just commie and I know he's tough as shit, but he's not in the top three or whatever. I'm like, dude, what would happen? I don't mess with anyone anymore.

Like, to an average human being. Like, he is like just, you get at him as hard as you want, I think, in the face. And like, he's, it's not going anywhere. No. I don't mess with anyone anymore. Literally. I, I, first of all, it's not worth it. Second of all, again, always someone tougher.

And you just don't know. Like some of these, like some of the toughest guys I ever grew up with her are skinny, scrawny guys, just wiry, right? That can take a punch. And that's scary. I remember the first time I met Chaser up at Gosser. So we were going around, he's playing golf with this. And I talk shit to everybody.

It's on the golf course so I can talk shit. He started calling me Stumpy all week. And then we were at the tree bar one night. And I popped off and he gave me just a jab to the chest. Holy fuck. I thought I was going to have a heart attack. Oh, yeah. I was like, I will never talk shit to this man again.

Yeah. I was like that fucking fist. It's unbelievable. That hurt a little bit. So that's also like that's how I made the National Hockey League, right? That was going to be my next story. your training camp debut in St. Louis. Yeah.

Do we have time for it? Fuck, yeah. Okay. So my dad, so I'm, again, I'm riding around in the minors for the last four years, right? I'm now 24 years old. And I become unrestricted free agent with the Vancouver Canucks. So they let me go. July 1 hits and I get a phone call from Larry Plow, the general manager of the St.

Louis Blues. And I'm like, holy cow. This guy's like, we don't care who you are, you know, you're not drafted. You're not one of ours. if you walk on and you show you can play with us, you're going to play. Bob Plager, God rest of soul, he was the guy who found me, and he's the one who ended up was behind all the strings, you know, getting me signed. So I come to training camp and before I leave, my dad drops me out at the airport and he goes,

okay, this is it. This is it, son. Like, you're 24. Like, whatever you do, just don't say woulda, coulda, shoulda, after this training camp. Not even after the first ice session. don't say and cry and call me and be like, I should have done this. I should. No, just do it.

Do yourself a favor. You've worked too hard. Just lay it all on the line. So the first time we're on the ice, I'm like, all right, no one knows me from Adam, right? Put the jersey on. I get this white jersey, St. Louis Blues logo. I'm like, this is so freaking cool.

This is so badass. So we get out on the ice and we just get right into a scrimmage, right? So we're playing the blue team. So they drop the puck. I'm starting shift. goes back they get the puck one of their guys gets the puck flying down the left side cuts across the blue line

and I'm back checking and I'm like oh my god this guy just cut right across the blue line his heads down so I hit him as hard as I've ever hit anyone in my entire life this guy flies up in the air his bucket flies off he's sideways he hits the ice he's out

unconscious right unconscious unconscious out cold separated shoulder and I'm looking looking down and I'm like, oh my God, that's Pavel, freaking Demetra. The leading score for the actual St. Louis Blues, he was actually on the team. Not on a tryout, he was their guy, their All-Star, their leading score,

out cold. And I'm like, oh my God, Dad, that is freaking real bad advice. They're going to remember that. I think they know who I am now. Did you think at that point, I just made the blues or I'm off the blues? I'm out. I'm done. So dead quiet.

in the building, right? Like, you can hear a mouse fart. No one's, and they're scraping this guy off the ice with a shovel and a stretcher and they take them off. So I go and I try to make a line change. And Bob Plager, who is the guy that brought me in there, is my coach, right? Because all the big coaches are up in the stands watching.

So he's my coach and I go to make a line change. He goes, ah! And he points and he goes, get back out on the ice. And I'm like, oh boy, here we go. So I get on the ice. And all I can hear is, you're a fucking dead man. you're a freaking dead man

I'm gonna kill you I look over it's Kelly Chase on the other bench and I'm like oh my God oh my God I'm like okay let's get this over with so he hops over the bench and lines up next to me and just wax me on the thing the puck didn't even drop

like the ref came out didn't even drop the puck and we just back off drop our helmets take our gloves off and again much like the Steve Thomas story he hit me about 10 lefts and a right i got a couple in he knocked me down he pulled me back up and he just teed off on me my nose is bleeding i'm cut over my eye my now white jersey is covered in blood so i you know fight ends up whatever a crowd you know stick taps all over and there's no five

minutes in the box it's pick your own gloves up so i had to pick my own gloves up in my stick and again i skate back to the bench and i go to make a line change and i go to make a line change and Bob Plager is like back out on the ice. And I'm like, oh my God. I'm like, are you fucking kidding me? Everyone in the building, all the coaches in the stands are like, who is this freaking guy? Like, is he that stupid?

Or like, so Chaser sees me. Chaser's putting his gear on. He's on the bench. He's like, that little shit's back out of the ice again. So he hops over the boards and comes back out. And he's like, are you freaking kidding me? So the puck comes back into the corner. Al McKinnis, their leading defenseman,

grabs the puck and gets it. And I'm like, screw this. I'm really going to freaking make a mark here now. I hammer Al McKinness. Knock them over like their top defensemen. Puck comes around, comes to chaser. And I skate and I'm going to now, I'm going to run him over. Well, he pretends he doesn't see me.

And I'm coming, I'm coming. All of a sudden, just before I get there, he comes up. And he goes, boom, stick right across the mouth. My bottom whole row of teeth, they fold back into my mouth, right? couple get spit out on the ice and I'm now laying on the ice. I'm like, oh my God, just get up, just get up, just get up. And I got up and I went to the bench. And that was it for that game.

I ended up having like eight more fights in training camp that year. But that's how I ended up thanks to Kelly Chase for making the team. God damn, you're going to die before the camp ends. At least you made it. That would have been terrible. And then they cut me. Well, I actually didn't make it right away, but I made it later on in the year. I was their first call up.

So, yeah. So after all that, they're like, sorry. And you're like, dude, my face is busted. My teeth are gone. I need a break anyway. I could barely put my hands and my gloves because they were like so like beat up from like helmets. Everyone thought Rudy was tough. Yeah.

I was literally Rudy in that moment. I didn't have a great career. And I wasn't tough. It's different. I showed up when it matters. You should watch Gladiator though. I watched it on a plane one day. It's good.

I will. I will watch that. Now that I know what's going on. I remember. Best hockey movie. Youngblood, 1,000% if you haven't seen that, you have to watch it. But Gladiator, and watch the Bob

Probert documentary. It's freaking, is that, I don't know, like I said that, documentary. Documentary, yeah, it's a big word. That's a big word. Canadian said things different. That's a lot of syllables. A lot of syllables.

was basically Gretz is like protector on the ice. You touch Gretz, you dealt with Marty. Yeah. And he would kill you. Yeah. Everywhere Gretz went, he brought Marty. Yeah. And like, that's why everyone's like, was there a purpose for fighting? Like, this is ridiculous. And if you ask all the best players in the world, ask Connor McDavid, ask Brett Hall. Brett Hall's like, I could not have done Brett Hall things without Kelly Chase and Tony Twist. Like I had, again, I could do whatever I wanted. I never was scared at any moment with those guys on the ice because they kept everyone calls. You thought you were tough? You thought you were tough.

You came into St. Louis. You weren't so tough anymore. And you were shit in your pants. You got one left? I got one left. I got one. You want it? No, go ahead.

All right, here we go. Think back to your Syracuse days here, right? Living in the spot. Explain how you always had a TV in your house but never actually paid for a TV. This is beautiful, by the way. Oh, my God. You had one source. I got Darcy too.

Darcy out there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Again, so we had this. we had this TV. We bought it from the Whiz. It was like the best buy back then in the day.

And I think again, he bought it. He actually ended up finally leaving it for me. But so we we had this TV and it was like all in one VHS TV. You put the tape in. Oh yeah. Like unbelievable, right? And we were so excited because I'd never had like a VHS player in my house growing up or anything.

Right. We had our own. So we were like watching movies and all that stuff. Then he ends up getting called up. and I still had the TV. And I knew, and I always saw the receipt because he had it on the, on his whatever, beside his bed or whatever, right? So when he left, I was like, oh, I'm like, weird.

Anyway, so my girlfriend at the time comes to visit me and get a movie. We rent a movie. I'm like, this is unbelievable. We got a fireplace there. I'm like, this is awesome. Lance romance, right? I'm like, I don't know what movie I had planned, but it was like a, it was a panty dropper, right? So I'm like, this is good stuff.

So light of fire, fire's going, movies going, and, you know, I'm trying to, you know, get a little something, right, making out a little bit. All of a sudden it's like really dark and I can barely see the TV and I'm like, what's going on? Like, I'm coughing. Like, I'm like, what the heck? So I go, I turn the lights on. I look over at her and her eyes are black and she smiles and her teeth are all black. Well, there was a plug.

There was a bird's nest in the fire in the, in the, in the, in the, in the, in the, what do they call it? The fan? No, in the fire pit. Fireplace. In the fireplace. Yeah. There was a bird's nest at the top, so none of the smoke was getting out. It was all coming back into the house.

So we're both blowing our noses in the bathroom and looking at each other. We're all black. You can just see the whites of our eyes. And I'm like, oh my God, this turned out really, really well, eh? Like, of course, never got action. Yeah. But the TV, at the end of the year, I took the TV back to the Wiz. And I got like $250 or whatever it was back then for this.

stupid TV and I'm like Serfetched right oh yeah so it's so good yeah he told me he's like we'd trade off he's like I'd go buy one and it's like a 30 day refund policy right and day 29 to bring it back hey it's just not really what I'm looking for then you'd go buy one 29 days later new sales guy

be like yeah it's just not really what I'm looking for just keep the shit coming every time hopefully they didn't see the paper trail but little criminal masterminds where we tight we still laugh about it to this day that's so good like that's the best part of it all right I'm sure you guys all have the stories not when you're in the pros I mean that's nice when you're flying around on these private planes and that,

but it's the grind on the way up, right? It's all the little stuff. These are like the mini tour stories. Yeah, yeah. You used to buy and take back TVs. Now you're buying expensive items and charity events. Do you want to talk about your latest purchase at a charity event? Oh, oh my goodness.

Okay. Who are you talking to? That must be my wife. I think she's the only one that. Freakian knows. Could have gone to Napa. Oh, my God. Oh, yeah.

Yeah, so I'm a softie, right? Yeah, we're at the, so I'm a softy, right? I'm cancer. I mean, chaser's going through these kids and this little kid gets up there and starts telling this story and like, you know, just going through chemotherapy and you're just like, your heart's melting, right? All of a sudden the silent auction opens up and I got a paddle somehow. And I'm just like, I got to do something.

So I'm turning 50. Yeah. Credit to myself, right? I'm turning 50, but Napa goes up. I don't even think I bid on Napa, actually. I don't think you did either. Yeah, my wife filled me in on that. She's like, we could have went to Frickin Napa.

So Napa comes and goes, and I was too cheap for that. And then this African safari hunting trip comes up. And I'm like, oh my God. I'm like, let's get the bidding started, right? So I throw my paddle up and freaking not one person bid. Like, and it was cold as balls outside. And we were outside at Trune, Truon North. So it was flipping cold out there.

So people were kind of like making their way out the door, right? And obviously not a lot of hunters there, but I've like hardly ever shot a gun in my entire life. But yet I'm going to Africa on a hunting. I was never been hunting. And you're just going to start out right there. That's where you start. I'm going to, what am I going to shoot? I'm like, this is insane.

But I told a couple of my buddies and they're like, I'm in. That sounds like the coolest thing. Frickin every. Here's the deal. Instead of your first time swimming, we're going to let you jump off the diving board. We're going to go straight to the high dives. You're shooting a gorilla or a lot. or a zebra.

That's incredible. I'm like, oh, yeah, that's great. Dyson, this has been awesome. Make sure you go check him out on the Nashcast. Yeah, thanks, Cass. Nashcast, yes. Check it out. It's fun.

It's kind of like the Peyton Manicast slash Pat McAfee show. Do a lot of the same stuff, like just talking to guys, telling stories. You ever get confused for McAfee? I have. I have. I have.

It's, uh... Did you go with it? Did you get confused for a two can? Yeah, two cans. Definitely that. Okay, one, one quick one. Yeah. Okay.

I'm sitting there. Last season, we're in Colorado and Kurt Warner's in the lobby. We're staying at the four seasons. Thursday night, they're doing Thursday night football there, I found out. So Kurt Warner's in there. I'm like, hey, Kurt, what's up? I'm talking to him. I'm all dressed up in a suit.

You know, like feeling I'm looking good. We're getting to go to the Arizona Coyote game that night because we're playing in Denver, right? So all of a sudden, I get to tap him the shoulder and I turn around and I'm like, oh my God. I'm like, hey, she goes, Pat. And I'm like, I'm like, Skyline. I'm like, how are you? I'm like, so good to see you.

I'm like, what are you guys all doing here? So it's Sean Payton's wife. Yeah. Right? So I'm like, Skylene. I'm like, I go, how are you? And she goes, good. I go, hey, I want you to meet my mom.

She goes, mom, this is Pat McAfee. And I go, Skyline, it's Tyson Nash. Oh my God. Like, I know you from, from Gaza. I see you every day at the gym. I see you every day on the golf course. And she's like, oh my God. Never mind, mom.

You don't even meet him. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. Yeah. She's like, yeah. Mom, you're good. Don't worry about it. He's just a nobody.

But yeah, so. Beautiful. That's good. I should have my sleeves cut off. Nash, you're a champion. That's funny. You're a champion. Thank you.

Shout out Nicole Kidman, too. Maybe get her on the show. Eye contact. You know what I mean? You can run that back. Awesome. Thanks, brother. All right, that was Tyson Nash,

joining us on subpar. Can we just get more hockey guys in the building? They are hilarious. I cannot believe. He just totally, absolutely, just stumbling. all over himself when he had his chance with Nicole Kidman. I know. Might not be too late.

She has aged about two days from whenever that happened. She's one of those going in reverse type right now. I haven't seen this new movie she's in, but I heard. She's in everything. You'll never look at her or milk the same. You'll never look at what? Her or milk the same. Oh, okay.

Apparently there's some scene. I don't know. That's enough for me to watch. I don't even know what the movie or show is, but I'm in. I love your work. Tyson, though. He's great. I mean, we need him and commie in here together.

I love the. Him, Comey and Biz. Good Lord. What's the worst that could happen? I call the couple of his buddies to get some scoop for it. Normally it's like, you know, sometimes with the golfers, it's like, he's really messy. I'm like, okay, maybe something a little more than that. I call these two.

They get on speakerphone. They're at the airport. But 42 minutes later, I was like, okay, boys, I think I got enough. And by the way, only 10% of what you told me is usable. But, dude, that Buffalo House supposedly was crazy. Someone got a new car, by the way, out of the whole deal. How about his golf setup, half, left-handed, half-right-handed course? Yeah, I can't quite crack that code.

Kind of like SMU invented NIO. Maybe Tyson's just, you know, he's changing the game right now. We might see some players showplay. Just the head of the game. And he can smoke a cigarette in a shower without it getting wet. God, that is brutal. That's such a good love. That is brutal.

But Big Beak. Love that guy. He is awesome on TV. And by the way, Utah Hockey Club. Yeah. I need that hoodie he's got. Make it the Yeties soon. Yes.

I'll adopt them as my hockey team. He's right. Genius idea. Start out with one name, change to another. Then you got to go buy. new shit. Double merch. Keep changing it every few years. Smart. All right. Well, some sad news, Slees. Yeah. There's currently, actually when this comes out, there will only be three football

games left this season. And no more by the time this comes out in college football. We're going to go with four. We've got the NFC and AFC championship, the Super Bowl, and when this comes out, will be the day after the college football national championship. Ohio State, eight and a half point favorites over your dad's Notre Dame Fighting Irish in Atlanta. How are we feeling? Well, I texted my dad this morning, the biggest diehard Notre Dame fan on the planet. I said, how are you getting ready? What are you doing to prepare for tonight's game? And he said, copious amounts of drugs and alcohol. Hell yes, Steve. Yeah, it runs in the family. Win or lose? We still booze. That's a true, true fan. So you ask me, I'm going with my,

I'm going with my heart here a little bit, but I also think eight and a half points is a lot. But I'll take Notre Dame. I mean, Will Howard's shown he can be not the greatest. They've gone from getting just their dicks dragged through the dirt. The media just killing them, hating them. Brian Day is going to get fired. The sky is falling to now they're the greatest team ever assembled. So it's happened quickly. They're the favorites, a little more pressure, but you got to go with the Irish.

And Marcus Freeman is just a 10 out of 10 in terms of guys that you could have representing their universe. He's my favorite person involved in this game tonight. I don't really like either team. So I just hope it's a good entertaining game. I don't really give a shit who wins. Gambling-wise, I think Ohio State is rolling. right now, they definitely got the better offense. So if I had to bet, I'd probably take them minus eight and a half.

Yeah, I just want to, I hope this comes down to fourth quarter. Like some of the games we got in the NFL this past week and the semifinal games, too. They have, the NFL games have been awesome. But best of luck to the Irish and the Buckeyes. Tonight, AFC, NFC championships are set. AFC, we got the bills and the Chiefs, which is going to be incredible from Arrowhead. It's the night game on Sunday. Chiefs currently two and a half point favorites.

Yeah, I mean, when we did our bold predictions, at the beginning of the year. I had Chiefs Eagles as a Super Bowl. They both remain. So I guess until someone proves they could beat Kansas City, especially at Arrowhead, I'm going to just keep going with them. And by the way, the refs,

if you touch Patrick Mahomes, they're going 15 more yards down the field. That's getting a little bit out of hand. But I'm going to stay with the Chiefs. Like, someone's got to dethrone them before, even with the two. All right? I'm going with my man, Josh Allen and the bills.

You had them in the, you had bills, right? I had bills, lions. Lions. All right. One remains. Tough one against the command. They got, I mean, they had practice squad players playing on defense, which was tough, and Jayden Daniels torched them.

But staying with the bills, love Josh Allen, big fan of his. Like I said, also, I picked him from the start. They already beat Kansas City this year. I know it was in Buffalo. But I think if ever the year someone's going to get by the Chiefs, this is it. So give me the bills. And on the other side, I mean, this is a fucking nightmare for me. Yeah, where do you go on this?

Eagles, commanders, Philly, Washington, and the NFC Championship. By the way, everyone at the start of the NFC least and all this, how the NFC sucks. Look who's left. A couple of them. Shout out Dan Quinn and Cliff Kingsbury, who I like both those guys. They have done a hell of a job.

They're in Washington in their first year. It's been cool to see. They're catching five and a half points. They've been rolling. They beat Philly. The last time they played, Jane Daniels threw five touchdowns. I hate Philly.

There's no chance I can pick them. Give me Washington in five and a half. Hadn't heard that before. You're not a big Philly? guy? No, I'm not a big fan. Interesting. I might have to broadcast the tournament from Philly Cricket Club remote. Yeah, they're going to love you. Love you out there. I had them going to Super Bowl early. I'm going to keep them going to the Super Bowl. Although what Washington did to the Lions,

I was shocked by. I knew they're dinged up on defense, of course, but they just ran up and down. Jay Daniels is a joke for a rookie. But Eagles grinded out. Eagles Chiefs Super Bowl, sticking with it. Oh, God. That's gross. Um, anyways. Except for me, too. The Chiefs just keep winning. That would just be a weird matchup. It'd be awesome to see Jane Daniels on his rookie year,

lead a team to the Super Bowl. It's going to be a lot of fun. But like I said, only four football games left. It's a tough time. It's going to be so fast. College football ending is just a brutal kick to the groinel region. I'm going to miss it. But the golf's starting up and then it'll be major season before we're not.

My vacation's over. I'm heading out to San Diego right now for the farmer's insurance open. Back to works, Elise. You're going to go hang glide again? Yeah. Yeah. I think they're going to put a GoPro on your dome. Yeah, good, finally.

Might as well. Looking forward to that. Yeah. Bird cam. No, we don't talk. No birds, no eagles, no nothing. But the opposite. That was a lot of fun.

Thanks Tyson Nash for joining us. We'll talk to you on next week's subpar.