Subpar - Unbelievable true stories from prestigious golf clubs with Country Club Confidential

Episode Date: March 10, 2026

On this week's episode GOLF's Subpar, Colt Knost and Drew Stoltz are joined by the anonymous creator of Country Club Confidential. Scott, if that is his real name, takes us inside the wildest true stories from some of the most exclusive private golf clubs. --Thanks to our official sponsors Zone Nicotine.WARNING: THIS PRODUCT CONTAINS NICOTINE. NICOTINE IS AN ADDICTIVE CHEMICAL. UNDERAGE SALE PROHIBITED.Find your zone. Bold nicotine pouch flavors in 6mg and 9mg — delivered to your door. Get 20% off at nicokick.com/zone with code SUBPAR20.--If you’re guessing with your driver, you’re leaving control on the table — Diamana is built for tighter dispersion and start lines you can trust. Get fit and find your perfect Diamana at LoveYourDriverMore.com--Thicker, stronger, faster-growing hair in 3–6 months with Nutrafol—use code SUBPAR for $10 off your first month at nutrafol.com/

All right, welcome back to another episode of subpar, Colt Nost and Drew Stoltz. It was a very busy week in the world of golf, and we're going to get to it right away. We're going to get zoned in with our friends over at zoned nicotine, and nobody was more zoned in than Akshay Batia this past week at Bayhill, picking up his third PGA tour win of his career, all three in a playoff, by the way. Started the back nine, five back of Daniel Berger, went out and shot a little 31 on the back night of Bay Hill, which was playing extremely difficult, did it with some incredible. ball striking, some incredible putting.

You talked about earlier on our serious XM show. He shattered some records. Strokes gained around and on the green. He said the all-time record in the Shotlink era, plus 17. That's good. He didn't even, like, we always talk about you got to drive it straight at Bay Hill. You have to or you just can't play well there. He hit the minimum fareways you could possibly hit and still be champion.

But when you gain 17, once you get up to the green, helpful. So the record for the fewest number of fairways hit at Bay Hill by a champion. before this was 29, 29 to 42. Akshay hit 18. That's wild. And by the way, that stat at 80% of the golf course on the BJJJord doesn't matter. Like, yeah, you don't need to hit fairways to win out here. Bay Hill is like one of the few, like probably the top three.

U.S. Open, Bay Hill, right, find one or two more. But like, it's the most important thing. That just shows like, A, how good he was when he was in the fairway. And B, dude, plus 17. Yeah. Like that's, I mean, you're going to have to do something special to ever clip that. Yeah, the short game held him in it throughout the week, but then the ball striking really showed up there at the end

when he needed the most. I mean, you look at the six iron on 16, hit to a couple of feet. Even the iron shot into 17. It was fantastic, 15 feet left of the hole. But I want to go to 18 where I thought he was really zoned in. We had his caddy Joe Griner on our other show on Sirius XM earlier today. And I didn't know this.

They didn't say this on the broadcast, but I believe he had 171 yards in regulation. And he tried to hit a big high draw on nine iron. And it did come up a yard short. I was fortunate to cover the water, but it was one yard from being a tap-in birdie. Fast forward to the playoff 15 minutes later. Same exact yardage.

Wind shifted just to hair. But because of that draw nine iron came up short, his caddy, Joe Griner said, this just shows you how many different shots he had. He had a little hold seven iron. Now, if he would have said eight iron, I'd be like, yeah, no big deal. Obviously, you'd adjust.

Two clubs difference, same yardage, pretty much same conditions, even with probably more adrenaline in the playoff. I thought that was really cool just to hear how Akshay, he's not scared to hit different shots, work it both ways. And look, we feel like this kid's been a pro for 100 years already. I mean, turn pro it's 17 years old. He's just 24.

His future is so bright, man. Now with the broomstick putter, he's rolling the rock. It's really changed his game. Look out. This kid's coming. Yeah, I mean, the hardest thing I think to do when you're way under the gun is slow down and, like, take something off of a shot. That's when you see most guys, like, if you're in between clubs, like, take

the shorter, dude. You got adrenaline. You want to be going on it hard. You don't want to be slowing down. The fact that he hit a seven on that second one, which I would say he hit it within five feet of where he was looking. Like it was the perfect shot given where burger was. Didn't bite shot. When he hit it, you fucking shanked it in the middle of the fairway. And then it shows up. I was like 20 feet from the hole. I was like, that's perfect. What the hell happened? And they got the green and the red on the fairway and the stuff too. I'm kind of like, just let me see it. Let me see it. Like burgers on 18 and regular, like it looked like when hit it, I was like, that's fair way. Then it landed, I was like, maybe not fair way.

And then it tells you it's red. It's like, it's, I don't know, takes away the job. It's like, you guys dribbling as soon as the ball leaves its fingertips, like, good. That goes in. That's the exact analogy I used when this thing first came out. Because we obviously talked to the PJ tour and all the technology and everything. And I was like, what are we doing? Why are we spool in this? We used to have the predictable. We're on a part of three. They would have the little graphic over on the side. And right when you would hit it, it would show where it's going to land. I was like, cool. Oh, yeah. It's already over. So it's going to be there.

That sucks. I want to be surprised. Yeah, about March Madness, we're going to see 17 game winners from inside half-quarter. It's like as soon as they let it go, it's in. Yeah.

You don't even get it. I like that thing. And by the way, yeah, and it was wrong on the half shank on 18, which turned out to be just flushed and perfect. But dude, he's 24 years old,

three wins. He's ahead of most people that we think of, like, the young guns on the PJ tour, and he's younger than him. That putter changed to the broom has changed everything. But you look at it. Like, he was a stud in junior, golf, opted not to go to college, got criticized a lot, got a lot of sponsor exemptions early

on, did not have a ton of success, went to the Corn Ferry Tour, won. First win on the PGA Tour, opposite field event. Second win, full field event. Now, a signature event. I mean, he's just trending in the right direction. Big things are coming for auction. The fact that he's won all three in playoffs, I think, says something. And also the fact that he drove it, like, shitty, basically, in terms of accuracy the whole week.

And then it's like, as soon as he got a chance, he was out of it, and then he buries four in a row. Now he's in it. Coming to 16, something needs to happen. Like the drive on 16, perfect. The six iron on 16 shot of the year up to this point, I would argue. Next hole, the beautiful little seven iron in there. Perfect. Almost made Bertie there. And then both drives in regulation

and in the playoff on 18. Middle. Like he's got that kind of clutch, you know, Gene, which, by the way, Berger has it too. The up and down he made on regulation was awesome. Shitty break, I felt like on 16 or 17 of that ball just stays on the back of the green.

doesn't roll through under the fringe. You have to deal with that little up and then down scenario. I don't think he three puts that. But good from a burger look good, man. It's that little BB driver as good as anybody. Shooting 9 under on Thursday on a very difficult golf course, just so impressive. And then just to have the lead all week.

And I mean, I know he shot even par on the back nine, which Akshay beat him by five. But even par around there's not bad, especially with the lead like he had. He played really good. I would say he made one bad swing on that. back nine. I disagree with you on the T shot on 18, but the only bad swing I really didn't like from him was just the wedge into 13 where he plugged it in the bunker and actually

made a really good boge. Really good boge. But two shots went. I mean, he's got to take so much confidence from this. I mean, dealing with all the injuries he's had over the last several years. I mean, this guy was 12th in the world at one point. Then felt outside the top 600 in the world. And now he's back playing like Daniel Berger. It's good to see him healthy because he's one of those guys like he's got that F you in him, man. He don't, he's not scared. He doesn't care who you are. He doesn't care where it's at, what the stage is. He's not going back down. And why was he catching so much shit? I feel like down the stretch he was getting, like, he backed out, like one. He, like, wiped the, like, a flyer, a bug flew on his bone. He wiped he backed

off and everyone was like, ooh. And then on 18, he was catching shit. People, like, get in the water when he hits his putt and stuff like that. I was like, at what point did Daniel Berger become a villain on the PJ tour? Like, I know Auxhay is very likable and he's got room for him, but I didn't expect as many people to be anti-burger out there. I mean, dude, I love Bug. He's awesome. I was shot. I was, I was, I was, I was like, damn, why is he catching shit? And he gave it back to him after that point. Yeah, and he turned around and look to your point.

Yeah, I like that. But great week for him, sets up his season, really nice going forward. A lot of guys continuing to play good golf. Colin Morcala, another good week, Cam Young, another good week. Ludwig showing up. Yeah, Ludwig, finally, T3 for Ludwig, starting to play some much better golf and heading into a massive week at the players, which we're going to get to in a little bit with our picks.

And I have just been on fire, by the way. Another L this week? Left one. I'm back to back. We're just starting to get hot a little bit. But another young, like, Akshay kind of equivalent, Blades Brown damn near did it down in Puerto Rico, too, which was a fun tournament to watch, by the way.

Yeah, made a triple coming in. Triple coming home, which, yeah, just you would never expect it the way he was going around that. But lead on the back nine on a Sunday at a tour event, been in the contention now twice in his sponsor's exemptions this year. Pretty damn good start. Yeah. So the third for him.

Shout out Blades. And congrats to Ricky Castillo. picking up his first win. Yes, it is Castileo. Don't yell at us on Twitter. That's how you say his damn name. Got his first PJ Tour win, stud out of Florida. That was a huge win for him.

Just missed out on keeping his card last year. You remember Max McGreevy, made like a 30-footer on 18 at Sea Island to knock him outside the top 100. This win changes everything for him. Gets him in the players this week. PGA Championship, obviously the exemption for two years,

which is huge. Also, I want to give some love to Zach Johnson, who is undefeated in his PGA Tour champion's career. made his debut one by four. Boat race. He's going to be a problem out there. He's long enough to be like considered long, I think, on that tour. And his like wedge play and putting is still elite.

He just doesn't get to do it all that often on the PJ tour because of how long courses are. I would say he went from short on the PJ tour to maybe slightly above average on the PG tour champions. I would be willing to bet he's like a decent clip above average. You put that wedge game and that putting out there. Yeah. Good things are going to happen. Congratulations to him.

And also John Rump, who ended the winless drought. Coming off four straight runner-ups on Live Tour, gets the win over in Hong Kong, one by three. Just no surprise at all. I mean, the guy's one of the best players in the world. He's 34th, actually, I believe now. 36, I think. 36? Mid-30s.

Either way. He's got potential. I mean, he just continues to play solid week in and week out. And also, so nice of him to help his boys out, too. They were stuck in Dubai with everything that's going on over there. Got him a jet to make sure they got to Hong Kong when they were able to tee it up. helped out eight of them. Yeah, that was kind of a scary deal,

but super cool for John to just flip that bill. An 11-hour PJ. Staying on live for a second. Did you see, so the four aces is one, Dustin Johnson, Anthony Kim, Peters, and Dietree on the team. Did you see the DJ interview afterwards? Hey, hey, DJ, it's been,

this is the first four aces win since 2023, blah, blah, blah. Do you remember who is on your team? Your team's changed a lot during that time. Can you recall who was on your team? He goes, he sits there for like six seconds. Like, 2023. P. Reed was on there. Sad to see him go.

And then he sat there and good. And another dude's on his team like Dieter was like, yeah, dude, who was on your team? Who was on your team? I was like, God damn. That's great because it's not even, that's not an act at all. Like you literally can't remember who was on his team two years ago, basically, when they won the thing. And I was like, well, if I was Harold Larner or Pat Perez, I'd probably be like, oh, cool, glad I met so much to the squad. Yeah.

That's dust enough. It was so good, dude. I loved it. I loved it. Well, congrats to the four aces on getting that first win since 20, 23. I also saw, did you see the drone just fly right into the tree? I didn't see it. You told me about it, but yeah, you know.

Just going along, showing some nice views from up above and then just crash. Boom, I'm dead. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Well, let's get to some gambling. Try to make some cash. Two in a row for you.

Back to back ain't cheating. Here you go. You're on this top 20 thing, and I think I'm going to join you. Top 20. We got the players this week. in my opinion, one of the most fun golf courses to watch all year on the PGA tour. Anyone can win here. Biggest purse on the PGA tour.

Obviously, 46 of the top 50 T in it up. Hopefully we get a little weather, some wind around there, make this place play extremely tough. I still prefer this in May. I think you get tougher conditions in May. It's like bouncy and firm. It's a thinking man's course. And when you add the bounce, like, the firmness to it, it's awesome. Still a thinking man's course.

Not a lot of power element involved this week, which is fun. My pick this week. He is not finished outside the top 11 all season. This is your week, bud. And so I'm going with a guy who's my bet this week is for him to finish in the top 20. And he had to withdraw last week before he teed off at Bay Hill with an illness. But I expect him to be healthy, ready to go, playing some of the best golf of his life. And you get him plus 2.10 for a top 20.

Give me Jake Knapp. Love it. I feel like this is the week you get off the Schnein. Once you get one, it just starts to roll. Probably won't lose the rest of the year. Jake Knapp, stand up. All right. I'm going back to the well.

I'm going to keep this simple. Last week I was like, except Rock at top 20 plus 185. I love that. He's one of the straightest drivers of the golf ball. He's a great iron player. It's just rock solid.

Like there's not a lot of weaknesses, maybe not the longest guy on tour, but plenty long to play anywhere. Tried to blow it for me, but was like up in the top seven for a while and then shot a little four over, I think, on his final nine, but still slipped to 13th or 17th.

Easy top 20 there. I'm going back to the well. At a golf course, I think, should suit him extremely well. Like I said, power, not the biggest deal at this place. it's crazy accurate off the T and obviously playing well. Give me SEP Strocka to top 20 plus 210.

Back to back, Sep Strakis. Mm-hmm. How about it? All right. I mean, that should be a good little spot for him. Man, he's playing well. Yeah. And minus that nine.

I mean, if he shoots one or two under on that final nine, he's like, you know, top five, top four maybe. Yeah, he's a stud, man. I love step. A little slim down Seps Strocka, too. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Did not give up the love of his life Diet Coke, though. No, you can't, dude.

You gotta love something. All right. I gotta love something. We had a little golf this weekend as well. Member, member, did not go well for us. Just let's just leave it at that. Let's just give a congratulations to Doc Maynard

and Felix the cat, who, by the way, there are 17 flights in the member, member of it was 17 of them. 17 teams advanced to the shootout, a little alternate shot shootout. The 16th flight is where your winners came from. We made Beahill look like the AM. I mean, it was blowing 30 and the greens were concrete and probably like they were legit like 13s.

I mean, 13s. They were thumping. And when I saw the shot that you got hit, which is like a, what, to the pin, what is it, 55, 60 yards, right? But it slopes away from you and there's water behind it. And the wind was, like, helping that way. I was like, did you have two guys putting for birding on this hole? And, like, I mean, half the people just flew it into the water that were bouncing in.

If you missed it left, you get in the bunker, can't get up and down. Maynard hit it to two feet. Chicken. Only one deuce on the board. He's a car. I was like, I'm kind of glad we didn't win our flight. I don't really want to be hitting this one right now. Doc Maynors are chiropractor.

He's got great hands. Great myths. Great myths. Shout out to them. And also, you want to tell them about the Mike Young pre-memorial pre-premorial gin tournament? We lost our self-suck jar. It's right there. I'll fill it up happily. I got, I got it. Congratulations. You won the gin tournament. That doesn't feel that. That doesn't feel authentic or genuine. You and Ben Hayes won the gin tournament. It was awesome. It was awesome. Yeah, I didn't stick around to the ages. Come back. Yeah, you were gone quick. It was 9.30 p.m. on ice, the miracle on felt, or we were done, playing to 250, down 247. to 102, had to win to advance storming comeback, and then ultimately chicken against Wyndham

in the finals, of course. Beat your son. Beat him like a drum, like a drum, belt to ass. Were y'all really humble? Yeah, we took it well. I mean, yeah, dude, we don't really like talk about it. It was kind of expected. One seed, I feel like, you know, Duke, Arizona, it's expected. All right, anyways, congrats on the first ever win at the Mike Young pre-memorial. We did not come up with that name, by the way. For forever. But great win. Hell of a week at West Brock for the member member.

You got a new weapon in your bag. I do. You've made some changes to the three wood. I do. And it's been extremely helpful. I've had a, so I have a whiteboard in my driver. 73X.

It's awesome. It's always been great. I had the similar, the three wood model basically in my three wood for a long time. I just couldn't like off the ground especially. I was like, man, I just hit like knuckle balls. This thing's hard to hit.

Off of Tio was okay. I recently switched with the blueboard, the Diamana Blueboard, a little lighter and a little softer. Yeah, the Mitsubishi. Diomana, and I was like, yeah, let me give this a chance. Maybe this will make it easier.

It's night and day how much better I feel with my three wood. And I did it a million times this week off the T. So like huge change. I feel like three wood is the hardest thing to get dialed in. Like you can find one you hit good off the T, but not off the ground or vice versa. I feel like I finally got one locked in. Thanks to Mitsubishi, the Diamana blueboard.

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He's like, you find the one you hate the least and go with that one. Yeah, that's good line. It's damn near impossible to find one that you like all the time. All right. Well, let's get to our guest this week. This is a little different one for us, but this is going to be a lot of fun. We got a little guy, he's going anonymous here. We're just going to call him Scott.

But I met him a few weeks ago, and he's got this awesome newsletter called Country Club Confidential, which shares some great stories from all these different clubs around the country. And he's kind enough to come on with us and share some of them. Here's our man, Scott from Country Club Confidential. All right, folks, we got a little change-up coming your way today. And in order to protect the identity of all parties involved, our guests today will remain anonymous. but he's responsible for a publication called Country Club Confidential, which airs out some of the most scandalous stories from private golf clubs around the country,

and he's going to share some with us here today. Joining us now, we're going to call him Scott. Scott, if that is your real name, welcome to Subpart. Thanks, guys. Happy to be here. Man, this is fun. I'm looking forward to this. I ran into you a few weeks ago, and you presented me with this awesome magazine that you created,

Country Club Confidential, which I learned is obviously. It's a newsletter that goes out normally week. But y'all did do one magazine and you gave it to me and I shared some of the stories on our serious XM show. And I just thought it was phenomenal. So what better way to get it all out there for the rest of the world to hear than right here on subpar? Love it. Thanks so much. Yeah.

I really appreciate that. And it was really awesome just hearing your feedback on that. So really excited to share these stories with you guys today. Yeah. Before we get to the stories, just kind of how did this all come about? So I was a friend of mine is in the golf business and he indicated to me. He knew I had sort of writing background and he was interested in starting some sort of a newsletter. The way he described it was he wanted to do, you know, stories and golf.

And the way I sort of heard that was, you know, guys telling me about their round or, you know, just like them telling me about their fantasy football team. It's just like, when is this going to end? You know, we're on 15 or on 16. And so I didn't really get the concept. And then as he explained more what he meant, you know, he was thinking about, you know, just sort of the stories in the card room, right? And the post around stories were just the club life.

And when the name Country Club Confidential kind of came to me, that was when I really, I think, it crystallized of what it could be. And initially, it was just, are there enough stories, right? You know, you know, there's a few you've heard and this and that, and every club has some. And so the test was that first year. We're 18 months now. And I'll tell you, there are enough stories. I mean, the club I belong to, I think we've already done six of them out of the last year and a half.

And if that club has six and there's thousands across the country in the world, there's plenty out there. So yeah, it's been a lot of fun and it's really been great to, you know, it's been just a great sort of observation of all of these great stories that, you know, if they don't get cataloged or captured, they'll die with the last member that, you know, remembers the story stops coming to club, right? So, you know, some of them really live on, but there's a lot of great ones that just, you know, we're partially just a vault for these, right, to have a place to put them where they'll always be. Do you, do you reach out to like just clubs across the country and say, like, hey, do you have any stories or how does this all work?

I haven't had to do that. You know, it's really just been, you know, I get out. I'm a social guy. I get out of play, you know, around town in this anonymous town that I'm in, but it's a large city. And there's a lot of people, you know, you just, it's really funny. I'll tell some people, hey, you know, I'm doing this thing. It's stories in the golf.

I don't really have any, right? And then I might tell them one or two like we're going to go through today. And then next thing, you know, they're like, oh, sure, reminds me of this one. And then I get some great story out of them, right? So it's just there's, you know, you'll see as we go through this. But there's a lot of, you know, it's just you put a bunch of people in a club. You know, say three, 400 people, a lot of type A, a lot of, you know, some of them inherited the money, some of them made it. You're going to have friction and you're going to get stories out of that.

It's just like any, you know, if you're writing a TV show or something, you want to create conflict, well, these clubs have a natural, natural conflict built in. So the stories write themselves in a lot of ways. Yeah, there's a million of, we're going to get into some wild ones. And then at the end, we'll let you, if there's a way to, like, share stories that some of our listeners have, because everybody's got at least like one or two. and like for you to kind of crowdsource it and get more stuff. I'm sure there's some good ones out there.

But let's launch into some of the ones you got. We'll start with the first one you ever sent out pre-COVID. It was a little like preview program for prospective clubs at a private club. And then like a con man kind of jumping into action and take advantage. Yeah. So that one was the first story we sent out. It was the story comes from pre-COVID. So it was at a time when this particular club had a preview program.

And so, you know, before every club was how to wait. list, you know, they had different clubs or trying to find different ways to kind of incentivize members, right? So in this particular case, they had a program where you could sort of test drive the club for two months, right? So you can come in and this, you know, sort of like the equity club model. But this was a new thing. So guy got wind of this, who in the story, we call him Connor Man, but, you know, that's sort of how we use the name. It's a Conner, right? And he comes in And he, you know, had looked apart Ferrari, you know, fancy clothes, the brand new set irons, right? Comes in, you know, of course, he's a, he's a personal guy, makes a bunch of friends right away,

playing in some cash games, goes in the card room, you know, playing gin, this and that. And, you know, at that time, of course, like the equity members, they can go and get cash against their account, right? Like, I've got to pay a few bets, just, you know, give me a thousand bucks cash or whatever it is, right? They were doing that for this preview, you know, so I don't know why, but they were. And so he was, you know, exploiting that. He was expensive dinners, just running up, huge tab, you know, making sure to tip the staff really well. So no one really thought much of it.

And then, of course, month one comes around and he had an ACH problem with his account. So, you know, the bill was a little late getting paid. But, you know, kind of just talked his way through that. By the time month two comes around for the preview in the preview program ends, he's in the wind and, you know, left the bill about 20 grand behind. And fake, you know, fake, you know, address, all of it. And so, you know, they, of course. course this club corrected their errors there. They instituted a background check that they probably

should have done initially and no longer let previews, you know, if they even have previews anymore, pull cash out of their account for obvious reasons. So anyways, a bit of a learning lesson for that club. And a little post script to that I had heard through the grape line that he had done that at a couple other clubs around the people that knew his name and knew who he was. He managed to pull that off a couple more times. So I don't know where he is today. I think he's sitting right next to me. I don't know that was a thing you could do, but it sounds like a hell of a good plan. You know, I mean, you got to kind of respect it a little bit to some degree.

Wow. I mean, the guy figured out a loophole. So anyways, there's a few more of those to come, but no, no more previewing memberships. Yeah. Either you're learning lesson. Yeah, yeah. Well, post-COVID. It's no real need, I think, with all these weight lists.

But, yeah. Well, one place that you definitely aren't allowed to just do a little preview membership of is obviously Cyprus point. one of the most iconic golf courses in all the world. We've been lucky enough to play it. But a rather interesting story out there because for those that don't know, you can actually play unaccompanied at Cyprus Point as long as a member signs you up. Correct. And so in this case, this came from being at a club and hanging out, post drinks,

talking and somehow Cyprus came up in a group of older guys at the table. And, you know, someone asked, it might have been me that, you know, has anyone who ever played there. And one gentleman says, oh, sure, I played. He's like, I played a couple times. Both times I was a guest of a dead guy. Of course, that's due tell. So this one we called Heaven's Guest.

It was the way this story goes is back in the, and I could, this doesn't say much, but is in Los Angeles area is where this guy was a member. He was a bond trader and he was, you know, apparently stingy with his members. He had a membership up there, but he never took clients out. He just used it for himself, right? But the company was paying the dues. So this being in the 80s, got him being a bond trader, probably living a bit of a hard life. possible some other reasons that he kicked the bucket early he ends up having a heart attack and

dropping dead well at some point the company realized probably when that first bill came we can either notify the club that he's gone or we can continue to pay his pills and see how long we can pull this off so they had the oldest guy in the office call up so oh this is bill or whatever his name was you know I can't make it up but I got a couple guests I want to send up there so they start sending up their clients you know just people that they want to kind of wine and dine a little send him up there to cypress and accompanied so they'd go up and play around and I think so the guy tells you He went up twice. He's like, all the guys in our office, we all got to go out there, have a great time.

And it was always just taking care of, you know. So, lo and behold, they said it went on about two years. And then the club, you know, hadn't seen old Bill or whatever his name was. So they decided to, you know, call his house, check in on him. And, of course, his wife answers and says he's been gone for two years. Oh, my God. The jig was up at that point in time. But all the way until then, I mean, it's a great story because, you know, what could the club do?

I mean, if it was modern day, of course, there's no way you get away with that. That's the beauty of pre-self. phone and, you know, GPS and whatnot. So anyway, yeah, that was a great story from directly from a source who lived it. So God bless him. And of all places. And of all places. Yeah.

I mean, you figure you're the company. Like, what do you have to lose? Now there are other employees I don't think were members up there. And it's like, why not pull this off as long as you can, right? So anyway, yeah, once a jig was up, obviously, they were notified that they no longer have the membership. Yeah, that's a nice little bargaining chip you got when you're trying to close some business. Like, want to play Cyprus?

I mean, I'm sure they made in spades. Yeah. Especially bond trade in the 80s. Yeah. All right. That's good. One guy took advantage of it twice, too. I love that.

All right. One of the best titles for your stories, in my opinion. There were some phantom scores being entered into someone's gin, and you had referred to this man as the gin reaper. Yes. So this one is probably the most specific story, I think, that we have just in the craziness of it. So there was a guy. And I can mention, I mean, this is a club where I'm at. So I mentioned it was somewhere from the club I met.

So one day this guy, I'm driving out to the range and this guy pulls up. He's like, hey, I got a story for your newsletter. You know, I'm like, great. What is? He's like, well, I don't know. It's not over yet. I'm like, what? So proceeds to tell me kind of a little bit of the, like, your setup there.

He's like, yeah, someone's been entering, you know, he's a 16 or something. 72 from the blacks, right, for me. And every couple weeks, it would just, another score would just show up. And to the point where, you know, it was getting irritating, of course, because you had to go to the pro shop. and they had to back it out. And if he's playing a tournament or he's playing a match with his buddies, I got to go and try to figure out what was really next.

So anyway, it just kept going on. And, you know, in the card room, of course, is guys, there's a little pool going trying to bet like, like, all right, who is it? Right. And he's just like, guys, isn't funny anymore. You know, knock it off. So we, no one knew, but they had a little pool going on who was doing it.

Why are they doing it? There was, you know, certain suspects, everyone that had ever kind of got anything with him was, you know, instantly sort of thought that might be them. So one of our retired members used to be a fire chief, and he decided to take the case. So what he, you know, he would have been simple, I guess, enough for our pro shop to do. But he realized, all right, these are, you know, went to the shop. They were posting them at the computer when you come in the locker room, right?

And so their time stamp. So they knew when it was happening. And then they said, well, shit, we got cameras. So why do we go and match these two things up? So they threw that, they figured out who it was. And around that time was when my buddy hit me, you know, came and told me. But they didn't tell them yet because they had to go and interview the guy, pull him in. And the guy tried to claim, you know, that it wasn't him, even though they had him dead to rights on tape.

And he's always just looking at other people's indexes up. So lo and behold, turns out at this club, there's a, you know, they have a pool in this and that. So there's a social membership and they can use the gym and through that go in the locker room. So this guy had asked him to be on his botchy team, like in the winter. Like there's just a seasonal bocchi league or whatever. It's not a big deal. But this guy apparently told the guy that this was happening to, hey, like, you know, let me be on your botchy team. And the guy's like, yeah, sure.

Like, why not? And I forgot about it, you know? So Bocci comes right, didn't call him, didn't invite him on the team. So this is how the guy decided to extract his revenge, was to code post on his index every two weeks. And they had him on camera so the guy would come in, you know, on the film. He'd pretend to get a cup of coffee and then run over the computer. And if someone came in, he'd kind of scatter away.

I mean, they have all this on camera. So the guy, of course, was, you know, brought in and given the opportunity to resign rather than get kicked out, which, you know, he wisely chose. So, and the funniest part was, I think only one guy even knew who he was. Like, you know, this particular guy was a, you know, just hung up pool a lot. So he happened to know this guy, but no one else even knew who he was. So it's really pretty crazy story. And it sounds like the guy didn't even play golf with the guy.

Like, he's just screwed his handicap. It was crazy they didn't even knew to do that. I don't even know how he thought to do that or even would have realized it. Because, you know, of course, I thought, oh, if someone hacked into your gin or how did the, you know, how does this happen? But, you know, at your home club, you just type in your last name and you can throw in your score. So, you know, it was definitely someone within the club. But, you know, if his gin wasn't hacked, which it wasn't. But it was, yeah, it was pretty funny.

I mean, it was just one of those things where you're like, wow, that is a next level revenge, right, to go and do all that. I've got a few days. A long, a long span of time. It wasn't like a one-time thing. Yeah, I think it was like 12 or 13. It was like it's like he had in his calendar every two weeks to go do or something like. I mean, it's serious. Like, he was very, very consistent in his revenge.

It was just bizarre. That botchy ball. Don't mess around. Do not invite me on your team and then don't call me. This is like the opposite of a yip strickler case. Yeah, the reverse. That's actually, I'm surprised that doesn't happen more, honestly.

Some of these sandbaggers, but, oh, you're not, you know. Just type them in for you. I'll handle it for you. I actually did do that to one of our members of Wish Parach. Oh, here's a new story for you, Scott. Yeah, here's one for you. He shot 66, and I noticed, he actually played good two days in a show, like 66 and 70. And we're playing, like, a few days later.

And I go back and look, I'm like, how the hell did his handicap not move? And he didn't post it. And so I went to the shot and was like, hey, this guy, by the way, 66, 7. type it in, in the shop typed it in for him. And he got so mad at me. He was like, dude, I'm going to this tournament out somewhere in next week. He's like, I just didn't want, I was going to type him in after. I'm like, you are scum.

Yeah, we got a reputation to uphold, bud. Yeah, that's brutal. Wow. So this guy got kicked out, though, for that. It kind of feels like it's a, shouldn't do it, but also it's like, it's not the end of the world. No, throwing in some phantom scores. Yeah, getting kicked out is pretty serious. You getting kicked out is, yeah.

You got to be a real after the sinister nature of it. Yeah, it was because it was so intentional. Because if it happened once, maybe it's a joke. But I mean, if you're going and it's, and then it turns out it's for revenge,

that's a different story. Yeah. And then the line about it probably too. Yeah. Whoops. Yeah. That was also probably one of our favorite, you know,

we have do little thumbnails on the stories. And so it was a picture of the gin reaper, you know, and he's in front of one of the computers like posting a score, hold the sickle and all that. That's sick. I like that.

I like that. We probably just gave a bunch of people ideas. Oh, yeah. Leading up to the member members, they're going to start just hammering. Well, they are fun betting pools. I will say if that does happen elsewhere and you do form a betting pool, make sure you have a field bet because we did not have that.

So all the money was returned. Gotcha. You got to have a field bet. Could be just someone's grandpa. You never would suspect. So you got to have that field bet out there. That's fair. All right, before we get back to Scott,

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alone could just write so many stories about how creepy-ass members hit on them and all this and everything so let's get to one of your favorite cart girl stories yeah so this one uh revenge of the cart girl so this one came me from a head pro um who had been at a club and he'd seen multiple he's like i've had multiple members like not only date but even marry car girls right but this one This is the one that took the cake. So this is California's story. And that matters later in the story. So guys, kind of bored with his wife, whatever, you know, just starts flirting with the cart

girl, kind of take a shot. And, you know, she starts flirting back. And so one thing leads to another, he ends up seeing her and then decides, you know what, I'm going to leave my wife. And I'm going to live with the cart girl. So wife keeps the house, gets the, you know, half the money, all that happens in California, right? So he decides that's worth it.

Shacks up with her. And then, of course, through this process, she becomes a member of the club, right? Right. Oh, I'm sorry. I take, he then marries her at her request. So they get married. So now she's a member at the club. So she's not the car girl anymore. And so she, of course, goes out. And now that she's all the members to your point that we're kind of coming on to her, creepily, whatever. She's now extracting revenge as like a socialite member all of a sudden, talking the wives and chatting them up and saying, oh, yeah, your husband used to say this and this. Just causing all kinds of problems for this guy. So, you know, of course, marriage isn't going so great, you know, and whatever was happening leading up to it, stopped happening. and into the bedroom after. And so this guy is not even getting what he signed up for. And then lo and behold, she ends up serving him and citing Aaron, Eric,

Aaron's sacrobial differences. And, you know, giving him papers. So he ends up getting divorced. And then through the process of the divorce, she ends up keeping the membership. So he hits up out of his own club.

And now he's got two divorces. And I think word was it like he got hit again on some of the, I think she stayed married just long enough to be able to go after him for, not alimony, but or just some sort of, you know, other part of this, whatever he had left. I mean, this guy just cut his net worth in half and then Damner did it again. All just, you know, chasing the carc girls.

A bit of a cautionary tale. Like just, you know, tip them nicely and say hi and get your drink and move on. Those evil cart girls. Damn, that's a crafty one. You got, you go watch out. Some of them are there for that reason. I mean, shoot, if I was, you know, looking to climb up the ladder low, if I was a car girl, it wouldn't be a bad place to go and try to find yourself someone you can, you know.

Yeah. So she obviously had an agenda. Again, you know, it's like the first story. you know, you kind of got to respect the, respect the game a little bit on that. How about that guy? You're worth about a quarter of what you were, two divorces. No country club.

25% of your money and nowhere to play. And you can't afford a new one, by the way, because it's gown. Just all for chasing. Yeah, you know. And that carc girl that's a member has dirt on every single dude. She could own the place pretty soon if she wanted to. I mean, hell of a scheme. And again, now it's from the head press.

I mean, he had the full oversight. You get to see from all angles. It was great. If you're like a young, attractive college girl, like cart girl is a fantastic job. You go out there, you're around a bunch of men. They're all going to love you. They're all probably going to hit on you, probably think they're real cool and tip you more. Great gig.

And then you get to be a member. A few years later. If you play your cards right. Play your cards right. Exactly. All right, moving on. There's a lot of these, like, kind of hole in one stories that go around. There's a ton from the charity golf world and things like that.

But give us the story about what you call the worst hole in one ever. another early story this one there's versions of this i've heard so i mean this is kind of almost like golf lore but uh you know the way we sort of wrote it up was you know about a guy uh so you know they're playing a match right so it's a club match and um you know this is when you know there's it's just sort of two-man match play you know you're turning in it's a championship scored all that so it's an uphill part three they both hit their shots you know our guy thinks he maybe hit a little thin he's like wasn't sure so they get up there and there's a bunker back behind the green and then behind that's death like forest or whatever it's just your ball's gone right so

he goes up see one ball in the green which is an opponent doesn't see his so he's so you know goes back to the bunker and course uh all says he's like up found it got my ball right here guys like all right great you know go ahead so uh guy takes great bunker shot shoots it up rolls it up close to the cup the other guy says you know a nice shot goes over to scoop it and give the put and looks down on in the hole and there's another identical golf ball with his own same exact dots and everything on it So a guy made a whole one, but course didn't know it. And, you know, goes to hit that shot, clearly dropped the ball. So this guy gets reported immediately by his opponent.

And so the club took the step of going ahead. And there's another, a lot of these tend to end when people get kicked out of the club, depending on the story. But yeah, he ends up getting ostracized from the club. And word got around other clubs in town what he did. And so, you know, the guy was in our story, you know, just last scene playing a local muni under an assumed name. But, you know, our little moral that story. always checked the cup before you go dropping a fake ball to his shot in a match. What a scumbag.

Especially on a blind part three. Like, you know, you probably hit it pretty good. It was kind of tracking. Maybe we're looking, right? Yeah. Yeah. You know? Most people cheat and put their ball in the hole.

I made it when they didn't. This did the opposite. I hope he said to pay for drinks too. It doesn't count as an actual hole in one because he lost a little and is cheating. And also a few grand on your tap. Yeah. For the boys. Have you heard about the kid at Q school in this past year?

this guy, Ryan French, who does Monday Q info reports on all these wild stories. But he had a cheating one where this guy, everyone he played with knew he was cheating and like dropping balls everywhere. And on one, one was a blind par four. And he hit his shot and he gets up there before everybody else. He's like, oh, guys, I made it.

And picks it up out of the hole. And then some of the officials later on after the tournament go out and they find several of these golf balls that he actually hit into the shit. And we'd always say they were fine. And yeah, it didn't, did not end well. Give him a few years, Scott. He'll have some stories from the member guests.

I don't think his pro career is going to shape out the way he's looking for. He'll give you some more ammo here in a couple years. Well, hopefully he learns not to put, you know, custom dots on his ball. That's when you just play straight up. Titleist one. No dots, no nothing. Just, yeah. I mean, if you're putting your name on, that's insane.

They did it like over and over. He was like double eagles and hole in ones. And just, anytime there was a blind hole, the dude was hauling it out. But he had like a tailor-made, like, 32 with a purple line. And they just found, like, three or four of them lying around the golf course afterwards. Yeah, with his name on it. And he's like, yeah, those aren't mine. No, no, no, no, dude.

Those were there. Although it's almost presidential, you know? I mean, so. Yeah. As we've all seen, the caddy drop. This is a great one for you, actually. So, course down in Florida, since we're just, these things come to mind, this is how these stories, I think, get going.

Course down in Florida, the owner of the club, one of his big pet peeves was he hated broken teas on the tea box. Okay, he's like, there's a little bucket. You put them in there. you don't leave any teas in the ground. He thought that just looked terrible. Well, these two members at the club get into it, have an altercation.

They don't like each other. So the other member, just say it's me and Slees. I don't like Slees. So I go get a bunch of teas made that say Drew Stoltz on him, and I just break them and leave them on the tee. That's... And the owner goes to Drew and he's like, dude, what the fuck?

Like, you know my rule. Like, I hate this. And all this. He's like, what are you talking about? He's like, I don't have me tease with my name on it. I was like, that is good. Amazing. Yeah, that is good. See, that's, I mean, you know, you got to love like a good revenge story, you know.

The fact that he took time, it's so premeditated. You got to go online, order the T's, have them, wait for them, have them come, break a ton of them up and go scatter them all over all the T-boxes. That's good. That's funny. Hey, tip of the cap. I like it. All right. All right. Well, let's go to another hole in one story, as you like to call it, whole and none. This one, so you wonderful segue with what you're telling me that Q school story, but this is taking it to just an entirely different level. So this one was down the south. It was one of our guys that's from down there, you know, just he had a few great ones. And so this was where these guys were going around and they'd find a charity tournament and sign up late, right? So they'd wait on these Monday charity tournaments. And if it had any kind of hole in one price, you know, 10 grand, 20 grand, whatever, win a car, all that. So they would go and they'd make sure to get two groups. So there's eight of them.

So they'd just say, oh, we're all buddies who want to be together, right? You know, red flag number one. So they would go out and then the first group would go play the whole. hole start you know of a par three whatever whatever the prize was and then start chatting up the uh there's before cameras everywhere and all that right so they start chatting up the spotters and then the group behind them would start jumping up and down celebrate oh you know like we made a one right so spotters like oh what what and then they'd come walking up and there in the cup would be the ball well it was their group ahead had put a ball mark same as the guy that they already premeditated

who was going to hit the shot and then say look it's in the whole i mean come on you know that's obviously it's his ball they're all saw it sorry and spotters are you're They're just too embarrassed to really admit they didn't see it. Oh, yeah, yeah, we saw it. So they're paying out the prizes. So they got away with this for a while. So what ended up happening was the insurance company, of course, or paying out on these.

Usually they're pretty regional. Just word was getting out. Like, that's been an awful lot of these going on. So they start putting two and two together and then realizing it's these same guys. Like these names are all matching. You know, someone actually was on the case. So they go and wait for them kind of lay low to catch them in the act. So they get them on the, on a, they find when they signed up.

And then they go and they see the whole thing. And, you know what? I got to take that back because there's one thing that happened before that. One of them, one of the spotters is a guy player, a guy from the club, he's volunteer. And he noticed, he's like, you know what? Because they were getting a little suspicious. The guy, if you make a whole one nine times out ten,

probably ten times on ten, you want to go see your divot. Like, where did my ball land, right? And they just went straight to the cup and pulled the ball out. There was no like, like, clit in a divot or, you know, oh, look, it landed six feet and spun back, whatever it was, right? So that guy got up, he was the one, I think, the sound of the alarm. And then once they kind of started putting two and two together, it was the same group. That's when they went out. They set up a little sting and caught

them in the act with the camera and spotters and people that actually caught them doing it. So they went down for it, actually. I think it was a lot of money. You know, we talked to grand theft and a whole group people. It was a full on, you know, sting ever. I don't know if his FBI or whatnot. It might have been. But anyway, yeah, because they're across the state lines doing the scamps. I mean, it was a pretty crazy one. So that, that one spawned a few additional stories. So, you know, we got a few member or just people that subscribed the newsletter, sent us a few emails in. So a couple weeks later, we ran a little kind of three-parter because they're just shorter stories, but these are all charity tournament stories where

these are where, unlike the whole and none, these were what I call these ones, unlucky aces, right? So that was a first one was a guy makes a hole in one, one of these wins a car, whatever it was. But he borrowed his partners, he lost his seminar or something like that, so borrowed his partner seminar and makes a shot. Right. Now, if he just keeps and now shay. He gets car, everything else. Somehow, he's just, you know, after around drinks or whatever, celebrating the whole thing. I went to call all that.

He goes and blurts out, yeah, you know, crazy's part is I borrow my friend seven out. It wasn't even my bowl. Well, someone who is from the insurance company, whoever overheard that. And they went ahead and went to the fine print on that. And he did not win the car. It did not count. That's illegal. There's so much little bullshit in those things, dude.

There's a lot of like these giveaway hole in one holes where it ends up not paying out. I know like a few of them off top. Yeah. Well, that, yeah, because there must be. I mean, and yeah, Gerald loved to hear you guys. Because, I mean, the other ones, the other two were there was another one that happened. This one I knew a guy that was actually in this group where they hit a hole in one on one of these holes. But the spotters gone to the bathroom, didn't see it. Even though everyone else in the group saw it and was, you know, witnessed it.

They, they were refusing to pay it out. So, but, you know, and again, it happened. There was the right, everything was the right club, all that. So he ended up suing them and, you know, trying to recover it. I think he got a few grand. I don't even know if it probably costs more to assume, but it was more principal at a certain point. So I assumed him,

we got some sort of payout, but it wasn't full payout. And so that one, and the only other one was a wrong T-box. It was, you know, how they put those little signs and the little, you know,

sponsors of the whole and this and that. And whoever, the group just went over to the wrong T-box and they made the hole in one, but someone was sponsored or someone. I don't know if they were standing by the car. They pointed out, oh, that was wrong T-box,

and they didn't pay that out either. So it was crazy. So, Drew, if you got any more, I love you. I've heard of a couple of them. One was close to my hometown where I grew up, so I heard about it. There was a hole in one hole, and it was like a local car dealer, given away. I think it was a Cadillac, like a nice car, right?

And the whole is like 150 yards or something. Guy gets up, one of the groups hoops it. Back right, they always put the hardest pin placements, right, so no one makes it. This guy hoops it. They go crazy, freak out, win a car, great, all this type of stuff. Well, the insurance, the way it works is like, if I'm giving the car away, I get insurance on the thing, right? And it's like, all right, I insure it from zero to 150 yards. It's like that's my range.

Like there's always these little ranges. So the yardage matters like big time. But so when they set it up, they thought the pin was going to be in one place. The pin was in a different place or the T-boxes was one yard back or something. So they had it to 150. It ended up being like 151 or 152-yard shot. And they're like, you're not insured outside of 150 yards. But outside.

Outside. Yeah. So it was just outside the insured yardage. Whether it was longer or shorter, whatever it was. It was like the pin placement changed from where they thought it was going to be when they insured it. and it was like a yard either too far back or too far short, whatever it was. I feel like it'd be like a minimum 150 is what it's got to be. And it was like they probably went back to check 149.

There's different like stretches. Like when we do it at the Phoenix Open for the shot at glory, like it has to be specific. We got like laser it 17 times. Like make sure this falls within like the range. So they came out there and did an audit on it. And they're like, no, dude, this is one yard outside the range. No car. So I'll share the golf.

I'll tell one before you. I'll share the golf course because it's great. But I was playing the member guests at the summit up in Las Vegas. it's a discovery property. And they did a million dollar hole in one on their 19th hole. It's little par three. It's like around 100 yards. And throughout the day,

everybody hits top 10 get to come back at night and hit it. Well, they do it where like a certain amount of people get eliminated each time. So you have to keep going, keep going. And it gets down to me and Ron White, the comedian. And they move the hole. And if one of us makes it, it's a million bucks. And Mr. Abbott, who was the pro there at the time, calls Mike Beldman. And he's like, we got a problem.

He goes, Colts in the finals. And the insurance says, like, no professional golfers. What do we do? He goes, well, if Colt makes it, you pay him a million bucks. But he's like, okay. So I hit this sandwich. It clips the flag on the way down, comes back, spins, and lips out for a million dollars. I was like, and then afterwards, they gave me a big happy Gilmore check with zero dollars on it.

That's better than naked and then. No, we're not giving you the million. That's true. Way better. Oh, my God. It was unbelievable. I thought I made it twice when it was coming down and it spun back. And in Vegas, I'd have been probably dead that night.

Yeah, well, it could be for the best, yeah. All right. Awesome. Let's move on to the next one here. We got Bandit in the bushes. Yeah, we had a part two. We just ran on this one. So this was an earlier story we had at a club where there's a par three, you know,

you go up a little trail bit to hit. And so you leave your clubs if you're carrying, right? You just leave down the base. And it was a situation where there was a few groups came through. And later in the round, realized that they had some items missing from their bag. And the way this, it's on the course,

on the edge of the course. And there's a little ravine that goes through. So you'd have to hop a fence and come across, hide out in the bushes, kind of wait for the groups to come up. And then when they go up to tee off, you just go rifle through their bags. Well, these particular groups,

one individual had a Rolex watch. There was another guy with a lot of cash that was apparently going out of the country. According to him from what I heard. But whatever, it was enough. It seemed to be that it would have to be an inside job. right because bag room guys or cart room got whatever it is know the groups they know who's taking a Rolex off throwing at their back you know if you're paying attention there's certain groups that carry a lot of valuables out with them on the course so um so it ended up happening i think it was

over thanksgiving a few years back so a little while you know everyone's hard about it whenever it it happened again about a month or two later so um you know from there they trimmed all the pushes and made some you know some changes to it so there's nowhere to hide anymore but never found out who did it, never, you know, just there was never anyone arrested or caught for it. So that was a, that was one where it was sort of a, and I think in the story as you mentioned, I mean, it was in L.A. I think we joked that it was in George Gascones, L.A., so they didn't go after anyone for for those types of crimes back then. But then, though another story came to us that was a desert course. And this one is known to have a lot of big money games on this particular course where it's

cash payout. There's just, there's no van Mose, there's no, you bring a big chunk of cash and you pay whatever you lose. And, you know, these are, you know, four figure, sometimes five figure pants, right, at the end of the round. So in this case, similar thing, there was a hole around, around the outskirts of the course where you could kind of hide out in a little area and hop a fence and come over and just rightfully the bags. So in this particular instance, the club was certain it was an inside job. And so they gave everyone an opportunity, you know, to admit that they had done this. And, you know, when no one stepped forward or said anything, they said, all right, well, you're all fired, just back up.

You know, there's Palm Springs. You can hire people there. There's hundreds of golf courses. You could play seven overnight. So they fired everyone and, you know, strategically known that they'd probably hear back. So, of course, day two later, all these people suddenly are coming up and, you know, mentioned, well, you know, heard this guy said they might be doing something like that. And so anyways, through process of elimination and different people coming in and reporting it,

they found the culprits and got them. I don't know if they recovered any cash, but I know that they found the people that did it. It's hired of them back. But in that case, at least a little bit of justice was done. What a bunch of scumbags. Yeah, I've heard sometimes those games where it's all big cash. Like there was one in Palm Springs. This is a bunch of years back now.

There was a certain game at a certain club, big cash. One guy would, like, carried in a duffle, basically, like, in his cart with it. He always just had cash for everything. And they got jumped. Like went to like the farthest hole out property. Dude, top the fence, mass on gunpoint jacked the whole thing. Wow. Yeah, he's trying to play some golf.

Dude, this guy played for like weird money, each hole, you know. And I think he had some weird thing, like, let's just say he's playing a thousand hole you have to pay me after the hole it was like it trades every hole so there was a ton of cash yeah exactly and these dude topped over with masks and guns and i'm sure they got on i mean it has to be an inside job at that point yeah that's wow actually that's one we don't have on the list today but there's a interesting one about uh we did it was called the trafficking jam and it was involved of cartel members at a at a border course that uh had a big just had a match.

He basically went and said, hey, we're playing today. And like, okay. And so these vans pulled up at the end of the match, just big duffel bags were just thrown into the other. And, you know, they shook hands. It went on their way. And it was no, you know, it was apparently a gentleman's game. But, yeah, we had that one from a head pro too.

It was crazy. So anyway, didn't mean to digress. Damn. But that's a wild way. We're in for all cartel stories for future reference, by the way, or I have at least. Let's go to the next one here, Scotty. Top 50 clubs, you know, that's like a different level of golf clubs. It was normally pretty buttoned up operationally, but you found a member of one of these elite clubs

that was hustling a little scheme to make cash. You called them the country club scalper. The country club scalper. So this was, again, I didn't know the member, but I heard the story. So this is, you know, most of these clubs have very specific bylaws. This particular one, you're not even allowed to, if you go play as a guest, you're not allowed to give cash to your host. You can dip the caddy.

You can do other things, but they're not even allowed to accept cash as payment for the round, right? So very specific rules, very well known to all the members in this particular. instance, there was a guy who realized that he had something valuable, a very difficult invite. And so what he did was put word out and had, you know, this were talking like pagers and answering machines. So there was a number. If you knew it or found out about it, you can call it. You could say, I want to play this club and I want to, you know, get out with me and two, three guests, whatever you'd get a phone call back. And it would say, okay, here's, you know, the story. You know, whatever your name is. We did business together here or there, put together a whole thing.

And he would just sell it for maybe, I don't even know, 500,000 bucks ahead, whatever it is. And then bring him out and have a whole backstory of this, my friend, so and so from, you know, whatever, and blah, blah, blah. So it wasn't that the guy got in trouble for like that anyone suspected him. But of course, people talk. I mean, that was where he made the mistake was people start telling their friend, man, I got to play this club. And I went out there and I said this. Well, somehow that word got back to that club.

And so once they figured it out, they started kind of doing their own little investigation. I forgot who it was. And that, you know, they put a little. little mole out there to go and get word, get the number. So what they did was they had someone, not a member, call the number, who's basically like an undercover in a way, and then go out for the round, play the round with the guy. And they went ahead and let the guy who did it. They're like, we'll let you play the whole round. But then at the end of 18, you know, there's your president and board and everyone right there just to call him on him. And they nailed them right then and there.

And you got what is now a very, very high six-figure membership. The guy was out, just like that. And so whatever he made off of that. And I'm sure he covers dues and stuff like that. But man, it wouldn't have been worth it. So, yeah, pretty wild. That was a crazy story. So I've heard of that. I've heard of guys doing that.

Up charging the guest fee a little bit. Yeah, it's $250 to play. You tell you, but it was a car. $500. Yeah. Yeah. That dude ain't joining another elite club. I could tell you that too.

No, no. So that was, yeah. And again, that's another one of those where he probably couldn't pull that off today. But, you know, just having a beeper and a phone number with an answer machine, you know. A lot of stuff you could have got away with that. It seems like a lot of effort. It does. Yeah.

And whatever he did to get to where it was in life. Yeah. Yeah. Like, Hustler is going to hustle. I don't know. If you remember here, I mean,

you got some money, obviously. It's a rather exclusive place. It sounds like up or six figures to join. I mean, you don't need a few extra $100 here and there. It sounds like. Maybe I'm wrong.

He would. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. Or maybe just had a pipeline. I think it was, it was a few extra hundred. I was,

you know, he was charging a premium price. He somehow found a market that would pay it, but still, it was, yeah, it didn't make any sense. Get to play a lot of golf, too. All right. Our last one we're going to get to today. I know there's a million of these we can get to, but the last one we're going to get to today is the secret member. Yeah, so this one is a good example of a story where, you know, because some of these, of course, you got to, because we write them into a story in the email, we've got to take a little creative license with them or just do what we can do.

So it's a club, San Francisco area, kind of do the math. There's, you know, it's of those elites up there. one of those clubs and a guy was a 40 year member. He was a past president of the club. And apparently this club back when this happened, I don't know if they still do this, but they cleared up the locker, went to his locker,

cleared out, got all his effects, boxed up real nice, went to his house and gave it to his wife and said, you know, here, you know, your husband is great for the club.

His wife just looks at him and her response is, my husband was never a member at this club. I almost said the name, but my husband's never a member there. And they're just like, what? Like, what do you mean?

Like she said this guy went there's keeping secrets from your wife, right? And then there's this. I don't know how this guy 40 years past president not even just like so just hey honey I'm skipping out to go play. I mean I don't know how how I don't know any of the back story of that. So that was the story I was given and then the way we wrote it up. I'm like how am I going to make this a story. So anyways I made it more about the aftermath of like when the club came back to the club and said hey you know this guy like that's insane and then yeah just then he becomes a bit of a legend right because it's just

like you know I tell my wife everything I don't tell my wife everything I don't tell my If, you know, this guy, he's a whole other level. So anyway, that one was, that's just kind of insane. But, you know, and who knows why? Like, I don't know. They just needed a place for himself, I guess, right? Didn't want to catch any shit about how much it costs. Yeah.

Yeah, a little slush on these guy. I'm not saying I don't get it. I'm just impressed by it. Again, a lot of these, like we respect the, some of them are shady, but you got to respect the, it's some angle on it. This one, this one's something else. So, yeah, that's, I don't know, that one we did fairly recently, but it was a, I think I could get away with that, I think.

I don't think Natalie would have a freaking clue. If I told her, hey, I'm a member at 12 clubs, she'd be like, oh, okay. Great. Really? That's nice. You have a lot of golf shirts. Yeah. She would have no clue.

Yeah, this thing's got to have just a million shirts with a logo on. I'm like, I got a lot of buddies out there, quite a bit. That's pretty good when he was actually president of the club. Yeah. The wife's like, no, dude, never, never remember there. That's the part. Yeah, one thing to you remember, but to be a past president and something else. I mean, yeah.

I mean, normally there's some, like, functions involved and stuff. Yeah, I mean, then you're gone for date. Like, you play member, remember, like, what are you doing all day? Maybe he's a member at another place that she knew about and just didn't want to tell her that he joined another one. I don't know, but that you got to kind of give the man some credit on that. 40 years, the long run. That's awesome. Scott, this has been fantastic.

Tell the people at home, like, if they want to sign up for the newsletter and everything, how they can do that. Yeah. Yeah, we'd love it. It's free. It's every Thursday we sent out a story. So you can go to ccconfidential. or easier, probably in the car right now, just Google Country Club confidential. Easy enough to remember, you'll find us.

You can go sign up right on our website. And yeah, we'd love to have more of you. If you have a story or anything you want to submit, there's a link on the site where you can do that. We love getting those. It makes it all easier for me and not have to go and, you know, chase stories out there and talk to them. But, I mean, it's been great.

We've had, you know, it's all been organic so far as far as far as, you know, what we've grown to, but it's, you know, just really been a fun ride so far and excited to see where it goes. You'll get some from our listeners, I'm sure, and you'll get some. I might think of, we might think of a few here there and fire them off D's. I don't think you'll have any trouble filling out the, filling out your quota. The T-breaking one is nice. I like that one.

Yeah, that's definitely, that's definitely, that's going in there. It's not like criminal, like some of these other ones, yeah. You almost have to give respect to that guy too, but damn, he got me. Yeah, it was a good play. Sottle. Yeah. It's great. That one's probably like, yeah, well, if we get, you know what, this is great,

for your listeners. You got a similar tea breaking story. We can tie that into like a little like, you know, three stories and one where it's like country club revenge, right? Just these little elements of, if anything you've heard where someone did something insane like that to get revenge on a guy. Those are fun because that feels like it would be a good

way to do that. It's beautiful. These are good ones, I love these. Yeah, keep up the great work, man. Everybody go check that out and we'll be in touch. We'll do this again. I love it. All right. Appreciate it. Thank you. All right. That was a lot of fun with our man known as Scott. From Country Club Confidential.

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I think my favorite, I two, the cart girl, and then the dude that cheated when you actually made a hole in one. Yeah, that one's a double whammy. A, you fucked yourself. Your reputation's ruined

and also your whole one doesn't count. Yeah. All of it. All of the above. And we're counting on our listeners. I know everybody's got at least a few. And once you start telling them, I feel like they start to like spark up.

But anyways, if you got a good one, share it with them because this is exactly what they're looking for and everybody will remain anonymous, of course. Gotta protect those identities. Yeah, but thanks for joining us. That was a lot of fun. I'm going to go break a bunch of teas and put your name on.

Like, Greg, look at this shit. It's a good story. Disrespectful to the track. By the way, next week's episode, we got the basically the match of the year coming up Thursday. Myself, Mike Commodore, Chris Demon, Ben Marsh, Shadow Creek. Thursday, I'll give you all the updates when we come back from Las Vegas. Be live betting. Be live betting.

Is that under the lights? Have you ever played under the lights? I've not played under the lights. By the way, you can't in the summer once again at Shadow Creek. But no, this one is going to be in the daytime. They got us last year. I felt like it wasn't fair. Comey and I like to have a good time in Vegas.

He's dialed in right now. Yeah. He's back. He's very up and down and what he thinks of his golf game he's in right now. Well, we like to enjoy Vegas and then go to the course. And they're like, take it all serious and don't partake like we do. This year, we are flying in the morning. and going straight there.

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