Suggestible - A Krampas Christmas Special

Episode Date: December 19, 2019

Suggestible things to watch, read and listen to hosted by James Clement @mrsundaymovies and Claire Tonti @clairetonti.The HolidayLove ActuallyThe Santa ClauseWhile You Were SleepingThe Muppet Christmas CarolMiracle On 34th StreetWhite ChristmasKrampus (Spoilers 14:00 - 15:00)Dave Warneke on Just Make the ThingJames & Claire on Book Cheat (NEW)How To Make Gravy by Paul KellyWhite Wine In The Sun by Tim MinchinChristmas Lights by ColdplayBaby, It's Cold Outside by John Legend ft. Kelly ClarksonChristmas (Deluxe Special Edition) by Michael BubléLove Actually Christmas Soundtrack by Various ArtistsEveryday Is Christmas by SiaLast Christmas by Crazy FrogMargaret Fulton ChristmasThe BibleAnnabell Crabb's Caramel CrackKirk Cameron's Saving ChristmasA Film Analysis by Maggie Mae FishThe Jolly Christmas PostmanHow the Grinch Stole Christmas!

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That's the difference between me and you. Well, I'm Claire, the Queen of Christmas, lover of all things sparkly and bright, joyful. Some people call me the spirit of Christmas. Nobody's ever said that. I'm like that spirit of Christmas in the Muppet Christmas Carol that's like happy and wonderful. I just have a heart of gold and tinsel on my head. It's too hot for this shit, Claire. I'll tell you that much.

And I'm married to the Grinch, the Grinch of Christmas and all things, who's grumpy and just wishes he was dead every day. Well, we were going to go away and talk about and pick some different Christmas things that we could bring to the show. And normally we pick two things each and then we come in. And before the show, Claire's like, so how is this working? I'm like, like we normally do where we say like two things each and you'd be like, I've made a list of 100 Christmas things that I love

and I really struggled. Like I really thought about it. Yeah. I had to put them into categories and then, oh, I could hear soaring in the background. We've got buildings here. Yeah, there's an angle grinder. And there's like soaring going on.

I was going to say, it's hot in here, but it's 45 degrees outside. There's dudes working. Yeah, because it's Australia, mate. I might close the door. Yeah, close the door and see if that helps because it's really grinding away. We are going to get, we've got no air con in here and now we're in the dark. We could turn the light on. No, Claire, this is how I.

No, it's spooky. Turn the light on. It's not very Christmassy. Thank you. There we go. Oh, let there be light. And the light on. It's not very Christmassy. Thank you. There we go. Oh, let there be light and so there was. This regularly lit room feels so much more like Christmas. So I have separated my loves for Christmas things into categories.

Okay. Well, I've got two things. And I have probably six or seven things in each category. So we're going to have to start with you to drag this out more. All right. Then come back to me. Okay. I'll just bang them out. I'll just go through to drag this out more. All right. Then come back to me. Okay. I'll just bang them out.

I'll just go through the list of things. How about I start off with movies? I'll just do each category and then you do your crap thing and I'll just continue back on with mine. Great. All right. So the first category I had was movies because, you know, Christmas is a time for movies because even though it's hot

and we're always at the beach and things, who doesn't love a Christmas movie? These are my favourites, my favourite kind of rom-com ones. The Holiday with Jude Law, Kate Winslet and Cameron Diaz. It's stupid. It's written by Nancy Mayers but it's just cosy and lovely and romantic. They swap houses in the Christmas scene. They do.

Amazing. Lovely to watch. Also Richard Curtis' Love Actually, of course, got to be mentioned on there. Brilliant Christmas film. The Santa Claus with Tim Allen. Have you seen that? Of course I have, Claire.

Classic 90s movie. Of course I've seen this. There's a lot of body shaming in it. But however, it's still really good. Have you seen the Santa Claus 1 and the Santa Claus 2, 3? 2 and 3? Whatever? No, I haven't.

With the villain as Jack Frost in the third one or whatever? No, I haven't. I've only seen the number one movie. I really like the idea behind those movies. Like the idea of like Santa is a curse. Okay, yeah, of course, because he falls off the roof and he's dead. So the rule in this universe is if you kill Santa and steal his clothes, you become Santa.

But I feel like that opens it up to like to crazy people, right? That doesn't open it up to the best of the best. Like it's not like if you're true in your heart and you love kids and toys. It's if you're a murderer and you steal a set of clothes. You see a dead guy and think, yep, I'll put that costume on. Yeah, the enchantment is all wrong. It does not surprise me at all that this is like you quite like this movie. I mean, Tim Allen did go to jail for drug trafficking or something in real life.

Did he? He did in the 80s. I still really like T. Mellon. I believe before Robert Downey Jr. he was the only Disney person employed who had a criminal record. But that's because he's a 90s classic dad, T. Mellon. And he goes, oh, and all that from Home Improvement. Well, the only reason Robert Downey Jr. snuck in as well because he started at Paramount and then Iron Man got bought by Disney.

So otherwise I don't think he would have been hired. Well, this isn't very Christmas talk. But, yeah, but also he's Robert Downey Jr. anduck in as well because he started at Paramount and then Iron Man got bought by Disney. So otherwise I don't think he would have been home. All right. Well, this isn't very Christmas talk. But, yeah, but also he's Robert Downey Jr. and he's amazing. Also, just side note, from Home Improvement, JTT was on my first Crushes. Yeah. That's right. If I could have married him, I wouldn't have married you.

Yeah, well, you would have married a dwarf. Sad sack. What do you mean would have married a dwarf? What? Side note, James isn't overly tall. What do you mean would have married a dwarf? What? Side note, James isn't overly tall. What are you talking about? Your brother turned up today, the one that Mayseau from your other podcast, The Weekly Planet, doesn't like.

Yes. And he's just a taller, better-looking version of you. Claire, I'm easily between the range of 5'9 and 5'10 and I'll have you, I won't hear you say a word against it. What, in shoes or without shoes? Well, that's the difference there isn't it anyway continuing on from this while I was shaming you about your height I'm so sorry another one of my favorite rom-com set at Christmas time is Sandra Bullock in While You Were Sleeping oh yeah it's a great movie I love that movie I know it's corny and ridiculous she's kind of like alone at Christmas she loves this really handsome man that

always comes to the train and then chaos ensues. She falls for his brother. That's the whole thing. But it's at Christmas and I love it. You left out the bit where she falls for his brother because the guy that she's in love with gets in an accident and goes into a coma. So she tricks the family into being his fiancé to get close and in the process she swindles herself into the family by falling in love with his brother

and that's fine, I guess, because Christmas, right? Pish posh. Have you got a Christmas movie that's not cursed? Die Hard has got a better moral story than that movie. It's about a grifter. If she didn't look like Sandra Bullock, it would be a horror story. If you woke up and a woman had done that to you,

you would charge her. She would go to jail. Oh, right. But you don't know her character. She's sweet and funny. Yeah, not good enough, quite frankly. She doesn't have any family at Christmas. I don't give a shit.

You're still someone else's family. I don't care. Anyway, back to other things. Talking about cursed Christmas movies, a Muppet Christmas Carol. That's a good one. It's a classic. Oh, good. Jim Henson's classic Muppets.

I got a soft spot for that Disney special as well, the Muppet Christmas Carol. You know a good one. It's a classic. Oh, good. Jim Henson's classic Muppets. I got a soft spot for that Disney special as well, The Muppet Christmas Carol. You know the one? Yeah. That introduced like Scrooge McDuck and I think, I don't know whether that's where he was introduced. Maybe it wasn't. But yeah, you know the one.

I do know the one. I'm not surprised that you quite enjoy The Muppet Christmas Carol with the main character being Scrooge who you would affiliate with. He makes a lot of good points. Yeah, he does. But he comes good in the end. And the last one I want to shout out is. Yeah, not by choice.

They scare him into it. Yeah, good. He fears his own mortality. That is my entire approach to this marriage, to just scare you into eventually becoming a good person. The moral of that story is he doesn't want to go to hell. Like he's not doing it because he wants to do it. He wakes up and he's happy he's not in hell.

That's the moral of a Christmas carol. So is that why you like it because you're hopeful that one day you'll wake up and not be in hell? I feel like I am in hell, Claire. So whatever. It's much of a muchness to me. Well, you're going to hell, so don't worry, mate. You'll get there eventually.

I look forward to it. I'll see you there. Okay, my last. I have two more on the list of Chris's. Okay. I really went overboard. One is A Miracle on 34th Street, which the old version of that is great. The 994 remake with Richard Attenborough, who's from Jurassic Park, correct?

And Mara Wilson is really excellent. She's a great journalist now online as well. Is she really? Yeah, she's really good. Oh, I didn't know about that. That's really cool. Okay, go follow Mara Wilson, M-A-R-A. And the last one I had on the list.

That's about a man who thinks he's Santa and takes and wastes a whole lot of public dollars, right, to prove this nonsense thing, correct? Correct. He goes to court over it. Yeah. Even though he's not Santa? No, I think in the end he is Santa.

Is it ambiguous or is he Santa? I haven't said in a long time. I can't remember now. I just remember it being lovely and touching. I think he is Santa though. No, he is Santa said in a long time. I can't remember now. I just remember it being lovely and touching. I think he is Santa though. No, he is Santa. I have no idea. I don't remember.

Anyway, Richard Attenborough, that's who you want to play Santa. One of my friend's dads is now playing Santa. It's like he's retired. He's like a mathematician and stuff. And it's his lifelong dream to become Santa. So now he's a Santa in a department store. Well, you laughed at me the other day when I said I would make an excellent Santa. And I reckon I would for like 10 minutes.

Yeah, you would. You've got enough wrinkles to poke out of the top to be believable. But I feel like, though, I could do it for like 10 minutes and then I'd snap. Then I'd break. But for that 10 minutes, it'd be white hot. People would love it. It would be magical. There'd be kids lining up in front of the department store just to sit on your knee.

That's not creepy at all, is it? It is odd. Do you remember last Christmas we had a family Christmas photo with Santa? Of course I remember this. Which is just a random guy. Yeah. And then like I got out of the photo for some reason and then the guy was like, come here, mummy.

Yeah. And then put his arm around me. The photo is like us sitting, our son just being like, I don't fucking want any of this. And then he's got his arm just around you. Yes, and it's just this like creepy white gloved hand around my shoulder and he's like squished me into it. Yeah, because when our son's like, he's like, I don't want to do this, I don't like this guy.

Spoiler alert, if you've got kids in the car, maybe mute this. But it's just some guy. So like, yeah, you have every right to be fearful of this guy. Yeah, exactly. And as is want to be because he is your son, he's a very suspicious person. Yeah, you know what though? You are very suspicious. You know what though?

He's right. Like he's right to be suspicious. So I don't think we should chastise him for executing like a healthy amount of scepticism about meeting a stranger. I know, but he's dressed in like a white, like a red costume. I know nothing can happen because obviously it's in a shopping mall or whatever, but he's still got pretty handsy for a guy who was being photographed all day is all I'm saying.

Hey, I brightened up his Christmas. What can I say? I bet you did. And then the next month brightened up his Christmas and the month after that. He was just doing that all day. It's my sparkly wish and animal magnetism. I can't help it.

I'm so attractive. What's up with Santa voice? Shit, I can do a better Santa voice than that. I feel like in your future at some point you are going to be Santa. I can tell. It's probably going to happen. And if you aren't going to be, I will orchestrate it. Okay, my life.

Speaking of my brother, do you remember when he turned up for Christmas dressed as Santa? My brother's like 6'3". And like skinny as a rag. And he came in dressed as Santa with this like shitty beard. But also it was after Christmas lunch. Yeah, so he was there and everyone saw him there. And then he just suddenly left. Came in in this ill-fitting Santa suit to give presents.

We only had two nephews at that point. And they were pretty young, like young enough where, you know, if you did it well enough, you could have convinced them. But immediately they were like, you're not Santa. We know who you are. Get out of here. Like they were really. He tried so hard.

It was really funny though. It's really funny. Also, he didn't tell any of us he was doing it. He just like disappeared when we thought he'd gone to the toilet. And we were just at your parents' house. I loved it. Oh, Jordan. And we're just at your parents' house and then he turned. I loved it. It was hilarious. I know.

The other story about dressing up as Santa you should listen to, I interviewed Dave Warnicke on my podcast, Just Make the Thing, and he tells this being Santa story. He's hilarious from Do Go On. Amazing. It's just such a funny story. Speaking of, we should just get this out of the way. Yeah, we should.

No, no, no. I mean, like we were on Book Cheat this week, Dave Warnicke's podcast. Yeah, the two of us together. We did The Twelfth Night. A Twelfth Night. That classic Christmas play by Shakespeare. If you don't know Book Cheat, it's a podcast where he reads like classic books so you don't have to and then explains them when we talk about them.

It's like a do-go-on spin-off, I guess. Yeah. Yeah, correct. And it's a brilliant show. We've been in it a couple of times. He will. But yeah, that one is apparently that's a Christmas play or traditionally done at Christmas. And you were worried because, as always, when you do these things,

you're really tired and apparently you were mumbling through the whole thing. I was. So half the time you can't hear what I'm saying. I sound like a drunkard. I had a can of Coke. I was flying, mate. Don't you worry. I did make a great joke about your Coke being fingered.

You did? That's true. That was quite funny. That was probably the highlight of the episode. No, it wasn't. James does something very funny towards the end that I loved. I laughed for like 15 minutes and then I couldn't stop laughing. It was brilliant.

Anyway, okay, my final Christmas. Wasn't that funny? My final Christmas recommendation is a really old movie musical that I used to watch. I used to watch a lot of these old school musicals with Bing Crosby when I was a kid. And this, yeah, this is just classic called White Christmas. It's with Rosemary Clooney and Vera Ellen who are two sisters

who meet Bing Crosby and Danny Kaye who are kind of like a musical act and they team up together and they end up kind of performing and doing these like fun songs and it's a bit of a love story, whatever. It's just a lovely Christmas thing and they sing that I'm dreaming of a white Christmas. Sure, yeah. All that stuff. This is the kind of stuff that I hate. I know. I bloody love it. It's just a lovely Christmas thing. They sing that, I'm dreaming of a white Christmas. This is the kind of stuff that I hate. I know. I bloody love it.

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I picked a couple of movies, actually. The first one I did is it's a family Christmas movie. It's got Adam Scott. Do you know from Parks and Rec? Certainly do. Toni Collette is in it. One of your faves. She's always brilliant.

Alison Tolman, who I don't know if you know, but she's also great. It's got Rob Corddry as well, who you might know from things. It's like a stellar cast, right? She's from Fargo. Do you remember her from Fargo? Yes, certainly do. She's so good. So basically it's about a dysfunctional family coming together

to celebrate Christmas at Christmastime in this like terrible snowstorm as it happens to be. And there's not a lot of love in the family initially. There's a lot of back and forth and family rivalries and the dumb uncle turns up and this and that or whatever a lot of infighting but then claire they're visited by a magical mystical christmas miracle to set things right in the form of the cloven footed demonic spirit that is the krampus okay and the idea is that if you are familiar with the krampus law, if you're not having the Christmas spirit, the Krampus will turn up and murder you and your family and capture you and take you to hell for not having the Christmas spirit.

This is the worst. Oh, my God. And so throughout the film, these family members are being killed off by the Krampus, who's this giant, like, monstrous Santa who carries, like, huge chains with, like, hooks on the end and he's splitting holes in the earth and people are getting sucked into it. And he carries with him an army of, like, old school wind-up toys.

But they just look like kind of a little bit creepy old toys. But when they split apart, they've got, like, meat inside them, like creatures or whatever. And it's just a fantastic Christmas time. So if you love Christmas movies, check out The Krampus, right? You are the worst person I've ever met. No, it's good. I think it would be right up your alley because he's teaching you a Christmas lesson.

By killing your family. Yeah, because if you don't respect family and Christmas, he's there to set it right. So then what happens at the end? Everyone dies. You really want to know? Spoiler alert. So it opens at the very end. Spoiler alert.

Colleen, can you put a time code in if people want to jump ahead? But basically after they all get captured or killed or whatever they wake up and they're in like a fun christmas setting and they're at a table and they're all kind of sharing the joy and laughter so they've actually the message here is that you know this whole thing may have been just like a ruse to kind of set them right but then it pulls out and you realize they're in a snow globe on a wall of snow globes filled with families who did also enjoy Christmas. And basically they're eternally trapped in this Christmas on this wall with a bunch of other families while the Krampus,

this giant monster-like, lumbers around outside. And that's the end of Krampus. Check it out. It's from 2015, I think. That is literally the worst thing I've ever heard. What are you talking about? Do you want me to bring Christmas things? I thought long and hard about it. I'm like, I can. That is literally the worst thing I've ever heard. What are you talking about? You wanted me to bring Christmas things? I thought long and hard about it.

I'm like, I can't even talk about my other Christmas things because they're all jolly and fun and festive. That's jolly and fun and festive. Mate, you have some serious issues. I've met your family. They're lovely. You have no excuse for the darkness in your soul. Zero excuses.

Well, now it's your responsibility to bring it back up in the spirit of Christmas. what do you got don't you okay so this is my other favorite thing christmas music okay so here's my favorite christmas songs paul kelly's how to make gravy sure come on australian christmas song but yeah but it is australian classic amazing the other one that's incredible is tim minchin's white wine in the sun oh i like that one now really worth youtubing it's just amazing it's really just about drinking wine in the sun with your family. I agree. And it's a beautiful sentiment, a great song. Coldplay's Christmas Lights.

Love it. It's a bit of a sad, dark one, actually. That won't cheer you up out of your Christmas Krampus funk, but it's a great song. And Coldplay also do a great version of Have Yourself a Merry Little Christmas. Of course they do. Love it. Make yourself a Spotify Christmas playlist.

I do every year. Love it. Make yourself a Spotify Christmas playlist. I do every year. I love it. John Legend with Kelly Clarkson has done a very woke version of Baby It's Cold Outside because that song is actually a little bit rapey. Get woke, go broke. That's what I say. And so John Legend's version is on YouTube and it's all about choice and all things.

And actually, I hate to say this, I still prefer the old version better. However, this one is much more woke and great. So good on you, John Legend. So you have to like it because it's woke, Claire. You apply to the bloody SJW shill media, I tell you that much. Anyway, great song, classic song, even though it's got some real feminist issues. But, oh, well, Michael Bivley's Christmas Deluxe Special Edition album. Which one?

Ah, look, the Special Edition Deluxe version. Gotcha. Was that the number six of the Christmas albums that he releases for the year? Oh, shut up. Anyway, it's great. It's fun. I like it a lot. It's got all your classics on there.

Got to love it. Love Actually soundtrack is a good soundtrack. Yep, yep. And Sia's Christmas album, Every Day is Christmas. Sia's Australian, but she's a singer-songwriter. You've probably heard of her. She's amazing. She's written a bunch of stuff.

Yeah, she also writes for Rihanna She wrote Umbrella Everyone knows the song Titanium There you go, Titanium, yeah exactly And Chandelier, classic She's a great artist but that is a really interesting Christmas album I really enjoyed it Okay, there's my Christmas music

I've got a Christmas song for you, here we go Am I going to hate this? Is this like... Oh, it's actually really cute. Oh, it's like a little gremlin man. It's Crazy Frog Christmas. You remember the Crazy Frog? Yeah.

It's the Crazy Frog Christmas song. For some reason, this has 209 million views. Does it have any words? No, it's just that. You know the Crazy Frog goes, ring, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. Yeah, ding. It's that, but it's Christmas. Oh, I quite like that.

I was hoping you wouldn't. That was what I was going for there. He's just cute. He's like running into a little snow-covered house. Yeah, he's also stolen. That's a concept. He's like running into a little snow-covered house. Yeah. He's also stolen. That's a concept. Under the Christmas tree. Anyway, you got something else?

Oh, is that it? No, I got another thing. All right. Okay. Yeah. I've also got some Christmas food recommendations. Oh, my goodness. Okay.

The Christmas cookbook that I always go to, which is excellent, is Margaret Fulton's Christmas recipe book. Margaret Fulton is like just a god among Australian cooks and she's just known for being practical and awesome and she's now I think in her 80s. If you look at all those Australian cooks, she's high and mighty above them. If you think Gabrielle Gatte, French Australian cook is up there, you are wrong. If you think Curtis Stone is up there.

It's my turn. You did your weird frog shaking a box thing. Let me continue. I like to think people love that. So far you've recommended a weird frog shaking a box thing. Let me continue. I like to think people love that. So, so far you've recommended a weird frog shaking a box and Krampus who murders everybody. You've missed the whole thing. Anyway, Margaret Fulton is excellent and her Christmas recipe book

is My Bible for Christmas Stuff. She does excellent things. Well, My Bible for Christmas is just the Bible, the New Testament. That's what I like for Christmas. If you're looking for really good recommendations for gingerbread and things like that to make with kids, they're very simple, clear recipes. She has some really beautiful pictures, but classic, excellent. She's always right.

Jesus Christ is my one true Christmas saviour, Claire. None of this gingerbread crap. Pipe down. Anyway, and the other thing that I love to cook at Christmas and I think is an excellent Christmas recipe is Annabelle Crabbe's Christmas crack. Okay, this one actually is excellent. Oh, really? Can I even write it?

Yeah, so I took it to our Christmas in July that we did recently. Oh, in July with some friends. It goes down a real treat. It's from her book Special Guest and it's so easy to make. The base is saladas, which are just like saltines, I guess, if you're American. They're just like salty crackers. Sure.

Then you pour over the top a whole lot of caramel that you make from delicious butter and like brown sugar and things. You pour all of that over the top. And then you pour chocolate over that. So it's like a layer. And then on top of that you sprinkle dried cranberries and pistachios. So it's green and red and very Christmassy. Put it in the fridge, let it set, and then you can just crack it and give it as gifts.

It's really good to take to a party. You will be just like a very popular person at the party because it's so addictive and so delicious. And something happens when you hand it around. I think it's just all the sugar. Everyone goes a bit silly. It's true. But you love it, don't you?

I do love it, genuinely. It's bloody delish. It's so yum. So, yeah, they're my recommendations. I'm one of those people, like, if I start eating something like that, like my willpower is, like, out the door. Yeah, I know. I have to eat nothing or everything.

I'm not, like, I'm just the one in between. Yeah, I know. Like, there's a special which I'll recommend on another podcast, Chocolate Healthy Chocolate Slice, that I make as, like, a lovely little snack once a day. I made, like, 20 bars. They're, like, muesli bars, and they're all gone. No, there's two left.

I left them for you. Yeah, I saw. Strategically, there's two little squares left. There was a box of 20. Since you told me to stop eating them, I stopped. And when I stopped, there was two left. After you'd eaten the whole box. You've got to be quick.

They are delicious. I will give you that recipe another day. I don't need it. I just need you to make it for me. It's a really good recipe. Anyway, I know I've made it twice so far in the last week or something and you've eaten almost all of it. It's delicious though, I have to say.

Okay, do you have one more thing? I do. Are you familiar with Kirk Cameron? He's from the 90s, 90s TV star. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I think I had a bit of a crush on him. Oh, well, then you're going to love this clip. Wasn't he in – he was in a show.

Yeah, he was in one of those shows. Family – not Family Ties. One of those shows. Was it Family Ties? No. Yeah, one of those shows. Something like uh yeah one of those shows yes i loved him he was a big 90s late 80s kids yeah he's a hot hot hot and now he's 49 growing pains he was in sorry there you go yeah that's right i don't know if you know about this but kirk camera now he's a

very christian human being that's what he does like makes these movies about like christianity being tied to christmas in 2014 he has an American faith-based Christmas comedy directed by Darren Doan and written by Doan and Cheston Hervey. And basically, Kirk Cameron is having his annual Christmas party, but it's about to be ruined by his brother-in-law Christian who turns up. And what Christian's all about is Christian is hardcore Christian. He's like, well, the real meaning of Christmas is missing, right?

And I'm all about Jesus and the New Testament. I don't recognize this. And Kirk Cameron is all about convincing this character that Christmas can actually be about commercialization and presents. And it's basically a movie about how God gives you these things for a reason because you deserve them. So if you have good food and presents and all those kinds of things, it's because God wants you to have them.

That is Kirk Cameron's Christmas comedy, Saving Christmas. So that's the bulk of the movie. But here's the thing. Here's what I'm really recommending. Twist, right? Mm-hmm. Sorry, Clay's just filming the dog. I'm listening.

There's a YouTube channel. Get that camera out of my face uh there's a youtube channel by maggie may fish uh she's an actor writer and comedian she used to work for crack she's done stuff for college humor and stream uh screen junkies but yeah she's now she's got her own youtube channel among other things and it's she does film analysis and she recently did this uh this saving christmas movie which again it's about it's about Kirk Cameron, devout Christian, convincing you the commercialization of Christmas is actually great and rich people deserve these things because God loves them.

That is like the point of this actual movie. It's a great film essay. It's like, she's really funny and insightful and it goes like beyond like the problems of this particular movie. And look, we've talked about before, like I have my problems with, you know, certain religions or whatever. Not even certain religions, the way that it's perceived.

And I think this is like the epitome of like this is like you've taken the wrong message here entirely. Jesus wasn't like I love giving each other gifts and you deserve this and God loves you and that's why you've got money. It's like one of those situations. So check out May You May Fishers' YouTube channel. Again, I don't have a problem with religion. I think it can do a lot of good things.

It's like a gun. It's how you wield it. Do you know what I mean, Claire? Totally, man. You can wield it for good or bad. I completely agree. And actually on that, I want to talk very briefly for my recommendation on the weekend.

It's about gift giving because I think sometimes I love Christmas but I don't particularly love all the consumerism side of it. Then you'd hate Kirk Cranman saving Christmas, Claire. All right. But I do think that there's like some really great things to be done in the way that we can give back at Christmas time and remember about people less fortunate than ourselves. Definitely. One of my friends is a teacher and she does this thing called mini vinnies, which is basically

the kids get together and they run drives for Smith and Paul who work with people who are less fortunate. And every year she gets the school to do like a drive for Christmas hampers and then all the kids put the Christmas hampers together, put cellophane big bows on them and they deliver them out to people. And I just think it's really important, particularly if you're a parent and you have kids, to try and show your kids that it isn't just all about you. And even just like this year we're going to be taking some toys that our little person no longer plays with and donating them

to St Vinny's. And I think, I mean, he's zero happy about that. Well, too bad. He had a full meltdown when I told him. But I think it's really important to give back. And there's also really great gifts, particularly Care Australia, who we raised money for last year they have some really amazing fundraising campaigns and their work um goes to spotting women and girls around the world and so if you're

looking for christmas gift ideas that maybe have a bit more of a charitable bent something like that is really awesome you can give a goat or some pencils or a blanket and a goat and all kinds of different things so anyway i just think just think sometimes it's worth thinking strategically about enjoying Christmas for family and friends and sharing and traditions and whether that's religious traditions or other traditions, having that be the focus and the music and the atmosphere and, you know, reflecting on a year that's been, that's what I love about Christmas.

I think we can get a bit lost in the consumerism. And you can't even say Merry Christmas anymore. It's the bloody PC bloody culture has made it change into happy holidays or whatever. An environmental standpoint as well. I think that the focus, having the focus be on the celebration with family and friends and looking after each other. There was a lot of waste at Christmas, yeah.

Yeah, so I think that, yeah, like I do love Christmas, but I think that it's really worth thinking about. If you get a bunch of crap, what you've got to do is give it away, but make sure the person who gave you the present doesn't know that you're giving it away, but give it away. Sure. Yeah. And then when they ask, where's that platter that I gave you,

just say I've put it away because it's special and I didn't bring it out for special occasions. Yep, exactly. All right. And just on kids, because we were just talking about gift giving and kids, I think books are a lovely thing to give at Christmas. Oh, you're recommending books, Claire. All right, and just on kids because we were just talking about gift giving and kids, I think books are a lovely thing to give at Christmas. Oh, you're recommending books, Claire. Wow, that's really bold of you.

Anyway, there's just a couple of kids' books I wanted to quickly recommend. One I've talked about already, The Jolly Christmas Postman by Jeanette and Alan Alberg, The Grinch Who Stole Christmas by Dr. Seuss, a classic, and then there's a really fun one. The original poem by Clement Clark Morge was The Night Before Christmas and All Through the House. You know that poem? No.

You're the worst. Anyway, there's an Aussie version called An Aussie Night Before Christmas by Yvonne Morrison and it's just got great illustrations and it's fun. It's basically about Paul Hogan avoiding tax time at Christmas and going overseas. It's about, who is it that sings True Blue? John Williams. Rusty? Dusty? Dusty Rusty. Dusty Rusty. I can about, who is it that sings True Blue? John Williams? Rusty?

Dusty? Dusty Rusty. Dusty Rusty. I can't remember who sings that. Correct. Anyway, and that completes my Christmas recommendations. This has been a fun episode, Claire, don't you think? It's been so fun.

I've had so much fun. I've tried to bring it down, but I feel like I haven't crushed your spirit of Christmas. No, you have. Of course you can't. My spirit of Christmas soars above all of your negativity. I'll be back next year. Like Krampus. That's right. Krampus, my style, my Christmas style.

It's all right. I've been with you for, what, like 13 years or something. I can cope with your negativity. I am like Teflon, mate, to that negative Christmas attitude. Well, look, if people can cope with negativity, maybe they can cope with some positivity from some reviews. We really appreciate that. If that would be the greatest Christmas gift you could give it.

It genuinely would be. Write us a review, mate, while you're resting. You can do it in-app if you open it up. After you've had your delicious Christmas pud. Oh, Aunty Donna's Christmas Pud episode. Excellent. Worth watching. Excellent.

Brilliant. I don't know whether I've read this one out before. I think I might have, but I feel like it's Christmas appropriate. It's by Clayton. Clayton? It's clean, but the E and the A are switched. Yes, ham is indeed the worst. These two are hilarious together, especially when jokes are brought back

like the Grinch of Christmas is just the Grinch. Great recommendations and lovely banter that make me happy that other families are as loud and obnoxious as my own. Oh, thank you. Oh, that's so nice. I love that, though. Thanks, mate. The review can be as long or as short as you like, but it genuinely helps us out. We'd love it if you could do that. It really, really does. Even just rating and you can do it. Amazing. Thank you so much. Okay.

I also have some suggestibles and one particularly, or two really, from Yvette Marks. Thanks so much, Yvette, for listening. And if you want to suggest something, you can go to at suggestible pod on Facebook and Instagram and Twitter. We really should set up an email address. Let's do that for next year. I'm tired. Anyway, you are always tired. Okay, so hello, this is from Yvette.

Absolutely love the pod. I have two recommendations, which I think you would both like and your listeners would too. The first is the book Towards the Night Shift Before Christmas, which is based off diary entries from an ex-doctor. It's actually his second book, but I started with this one. It's very well written. It made me laugh, cry, go, ew, and appreciate even more than I did those

people who work the Christmas season to keep so many of us healthy and alive. And the second is a Netflix series called The Films Which Made Us, which I know you loved watching. We talked about it last week. And she said the Home Alone ep is a must for this time of year. Agreed. Which you mentioned. All right, keep up the great pod.

Loving it. Thank you. Oh, well, thanks, Yvette. I really, really appreciate you writing in. So we would love to hear more of her. I think it's Yvette you'll find. There's a Y in there. I bet you say it, Yvette.

I don't think so. Like Arvette. Arvette. Arvette. There's a Y in there. I bet you say it Yvette. I don't think so. Like Yvette. Yvette. Yvette. Yvette Maria. The song. Yvette Maria. Yes, but until next year.

That's just for you, Yvette. And by next year I mean next week because there's one more episode before the end of the year. One more. Are we taking a break? We're doing. We'll take a break. We'll figure it out.

Doing some sort of summer reads and things to read and watch and listen to. Well, for us it's the summer break. For you guys it's probably the wintry time. Yeah, freezing hell. Eat leftover Christmas pud. Hey, and just have a wonderful Christmas. That's right. And remember, everybody.

Merry Christmas. I would even say have a crazy frog Christmas. Does have lyrics. You didn't mention Mariah Carey? Nah, everyone knows Mariah Carey Yeah, nobody knows Michael Bublé You really went edgy there, Claire No, but she's on the Love Actually Well, her version of All I Want For Christmas Is You

Is on the Love Actually soundtrack Her version or the version that's sung in that movie? No, the version that's sung in that movie But No, the version that's sung in that movie. But I do love that song too, obviously. It's without saying, it's excellent. Very good. Yep. And I know that you were trying to dampen my Christmas spirit

with the crazy frog, but that only brought me joy. I thought it would be worse. I'm going to make a Christmas hazelnut pavlova for my favourite friend's dinner tonight. We're doing a Christmas-themed dinner. Yay! And my Christmas-themed evening is going to be watching that new Star Wars movie in IMAX apparently.

Yeah, I missed it. I'm so jealous. I really wanted to go to that. However, Christmas is more important. So let's not get ahead of ourselves. Christmas is not more important than Star Wars, Claire. If you say that, Disney will come to your house and break in. I'm surprised you didn't.

Wasn't there like a Christmas special of Star Wars? Oh, yeah. I've done a video on it. It's atrocious. Yeah, I thought you were going to talk about that. I've talked you didn't. Wasn't there like a Christmas special of Star Wars? Oh, yeah. I've done a video on it. It's atrocious. Yeah, I thought you were going to talk about that. I've talked it to death. I challenge you to sit through that. No, you forget.

You have made me sit through it. I have not made you sit through the entire thing. Yes, you have. It is brutal. You have. Yeah, I know because you made me sit through it. It's not even like funny. It's just.

It's terrible. It's just atrocious. It's terrible. It's terrible. It's just atrocious. And poor Princess Leia. Mason and I also did a commentary track on it. So if you want to watch two men going mad over Christmas, the Star Wars Christmas special, check it out. All right. Well, stay safe this Christmas night.

Have a crazy frog Christmas, everybody. Love to everybody. Not everyone. And to all a good night. No. Everyone except for you, Grincho. You talking to me? Yeah. But I love a good night. No. Everyone except for you, Grincho. You talking to me? Yeah.

But I love you, despite your negativity. I've got a great present for you this year. You better have got me something good. No, I haven't. I mean, I don't believe you can assume a reason, but buy me a present. All right. All right. Yeah.

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