Suggestible - Baseball Bat Attack

Episode Date: August 22, 2019

Suggestible things to watch, read and listen to hosted by James Clement @mrsundaymovies and Claire Tonti @clairetonti.This week's Suggestibles:MindhunterThe Clovehitch KillerManhuntPumpkin, Bacon & Chickpea SaladCommunity Recipes by Hetty McKinnonRoasted Sweet Potato, Lentil & Walnut SaladLuisa: Now and ThenCourtney BarnettDarren HanlonPaul KellyThree Women by Lisa TaddeoTales of the CityShusher Guided MeditationsPlanet Broadcasting's 2019 Fundraiser with Bonus Rewards - chuck in a buck? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Uber Teen Accounts. Invite your teen to join your Uber account today. Available in select locations. See app for details. It's Suggestible Pod. Hello, James. It's good to be here. I've had a nap.

I'm feeling good. This is peak optimum time for all of us. I've just woken up. It is. For all of us, I mean, me and you. Fabulous. I have my lemon ginger tea. We're all set.

My name is Claire. What is Suggestible Pod, James? Suggestible is as simple as this, everybody. Let me break it down for you I made me a new. Fabulous. I have my lemon ginger tea. We're all set. My name is Claire. What is suggestible pod, James? Suggestible is as simple as this, everybody. Let me break it down for you. Give me a second. Here we go. We've only got half an hour. Make it snappy. Okay, I've written this rap. We suggest things. Things that we've watched, listened, done. People we've spoken to. Things that we've eaten. Maybe we've had a fun adventure. I know I haven't, but sometimes one of us might. I've been to Perth. I said fun adventure. It was fun, mostly.

I'm tired. I spend a lot of time with a three-year-old. It was exhausting. Okay, as always, gentlemen's first, except that one time when I riled on about feminism, which I still believe in, by the way. Gentlemen's first on this podcast, James. What is your first suggestible?

My first suggestible, Claire, well, I've got so many. I've got two.. Oh, good Lord. I've got two. Here we go. Is Mindhunter Season 2. Oh, it's so spooky. It's a little bit spooky. But the thing is, it is a show about hunting serial killers

and understanding serial killers. But it's more the terrifying nature of it is not the gory kills. It's like the sitting down and talking with them and just the eerie calmness and just them talking about the acts of these people who really existed in real life are committed, like the way it kind of methodically goes through it and the way people can kind of calmly kind of talk about them. Then I grabbed them and I did this and then, you know what I mean? Okay, how is that not spooky?

That's what I'm saying. It is. What did I say? It is know what I mean? Okay, how is that not spooky? That's what I'm saying. It is. What did I say? It is spooky. I agree with you. That's what I'm saying. Anyway, the series was created by Joe Penhall. It was based on the book of the same name.

It's produced by David Fincher, who's an excellent filmmaker. You might know him from Fight Club. You might know him from the serial killer movie Zodiac with Robert Downey Jr. Club. You might know him from the serial killer movie Zodiac with Robert Downey Jr. So it's set in 1977. It's the early days of the FBI investigating serial killers. They didn't really have a name even initially. They didn't understand why or how people would go about mass murdering just dozens of people and also then go and then just integrate back into society. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, like it didn't happen or? Yeah, exactly.

Like it's almost like people compartmentalize their life. So is it something that has always been present in human culture? Yes. But just something that didn't have a name or people hadn't recognized until, when did you say, the 80s? The 77, when this is said. Yeah, I mean there's been, there is history of serial killers like, you know, like Jack the Ripper was one of the most famous ones

which was 100 or so years before. I'm not exactly sure. Jack the Ripper 200? I don't know. A long time before that. Many years ago. Many years prior. What?

You're not a historian on the murders? You're only an expert in comic book film. And even then I wouldn't say I'm even that good. No one's an expert on anything except for the people Jack the Ripper 1888. So there's always been, like it's always existed, like this idea of psychopaths. But this is really about not only understanding them

but then using the information you have to then apply it to serial killers that are still out there. And so that's the point of the show. They haven't been caught. Yeah, they're building a profile. They're existing among us. Yes, they're building a profile. And it is, there's a certain kind of set of rules that a lot of them go by,

not intentionally, but it's just kind of a pattern that they kind of fall into. What are the rules? Often they're like disgruntled, like middle-aged, white, or not even, they're white men with like power fantasies, mother issues. Like they torture animals as kids and they move up into more graphic and violent crimes and things of that nature. Often have like petty crimes. Like they might have some juvie kind of stuff.

Hang on. So are they usually men? So they're not women? Usually men. There are female serial killers that exist but it's mostly men, yeah. Whoa. Do you reckon that's because there are lots of female serial killers, but they're too clever and they never get caught?

That's entirely possible, but no, Claire. I don't have something to tell you. I have been murdering people for hundreds of years. I know, Claire. I don't care. It doesn't bother me. It's just a hobby. We're married, so I'm not allowed to tell anybody.

You know how it is. Except for all the people that listen to this podcast. That's true. Oh, no. Oh, my plan's been foiled all this time. I can't believe we didn't edit this bit out. I know. What were we thinking?

Collings, get to it. Too sweet. But it stars Jonathan Groff, who you might know. He originally played the English king in Hamilton. Oh, you love Hamilton. He's great, yeah. That's your favorite musical. Holt McCall.

Spoiler alert. It's amazing. It's true. It is amazing. Holt McCall... Spoiler alert, it's amazing. It's true. It is amazing. Holt McCall-ny and Anna Torv. I feel like that's not how you say his name. Probably not, yeah. So the second season is...

It's still about interviewing serial killers. Like they visit Charles Manson and a few others. But season two is set during the Atlanta murders between... Which happened between 79 and 81. Where basically somebody was picking up young black kids in the neighborhood, boys, and then murdering them. And the police kind of weren't, wasn't really taking notice. It was like, there's a runaways, there's a series of unconnected events and whatever.

And it's all very political, but it turns out that there's a serial killer in this area. This is a real guy. I'd never heard of him. And it follows them catching this person among also building a profile of serial killers and applying what they learnt in kind of season one to this new situation. Yeah. And it's just a really great show.

The second season is nine episodes. The first one is ten. And it's on Netflix? It's on Netflix, yeah. Again, it's spooky and whatever. And it's spooky in the sense of you can be this person and then hide. You know what I mean? And just live your regular life and be Joe at the supermarket

buying you apples. And there are people out there who, you know, they exist. They're real people. I mean, it's very uncommon. You're way more likely to, you know, die in a car crash. Than be killed by a serial killer. Yes. Or a plane crash. Yeah. I wonder what the statistics are, whether you're more likely to, you know, die in a car crash. Than be killed by a serial killer. Yes. Or a plane crash.

Yeah. I wonder what the statistics are, whether you're more likely to die in a plane crash or be murdered by a serial killer. Somebody look that up for us. That would be fantastic. Somebody look on Twitter at AspenPod. Thank you so much.

Excellent job. I don't want to research that. Okay, here is the thing. It kept you up a bit at night, right? It did because you were away for the weekend. You were all alone in our house. With my dog. You bought a baseball bat.

I bought a baseball bat, Claire. Don't even worry about it. I thought you were joking and then I was watching telly last night. Glow, by the way. Recommended last week. Excellent. And you literally had a baseball bat. I bought a baseball bat.

Is that going to stop a serial killer? No, probably not. But it makes me feel better. Do you know something else that's funny? I should point out as well, I bought a baseball bat and a bike pump because I didn't want to be the guy who goes up and goes, one baseball bat, please. I don't want any gloves.

I don't want a ball. I just want this bat. You didn't tell me that. I just had this realisation as well that that is literally the only sporting equipment that you own that you bought for yourself. I've got a basketball. Where? Where's that basketball? That's a really good question. No, you that you bought for yourself. I've got a basketball. Where? Where's that basketball?

That's a really good question. No, you don't have a basketball. I like basketball. I've played a lot of basketball. I'm not very good. To my original point, the only sporting equipment I've ever seen you buy personally for yourself other than for our son is a baseball bat and it has nothing to do with sport. It's to cave someone's head in.

It's to cave someone's head in that may be a serial kill that one day knocks on our door. It wasn't. Look. Mate, you are an ocean of complexities. I don't think I'm that complex. I think I'm a very simple man with very base instincts. All right. Okay. So you have your base all that. But it did keep you up because I was away. But I do have this paranoia that because I've a slightly raised public profile, like I don't want anyone to know where we live. I don't want anyone to know anything about me personally or privately.

You didn't want anyone to know your name and I outed you and now I feel bad. I've put you to the point where you have now bought a baseball bat. And if it was just me, I probably wouldn't care as much because it's, you know, like if it was just me and someone murders me, I'm like, well, it's just me, you know, but with a family. You might not feel like that at the time. I know. It's ridiculous.

And that's not me saying to people, listen, if it's just you, don't even bother. Just let people murder you. I know that was a joke, but I really genuinely could see if a murderer came to my house that you would be like, I'm tired. Oh, get it over with it's just me all right just make it quicker I mean the world's burning up anyway I'll die young yeah and relatively fresh-faced and then I watched it afterwards I watched another uh it's a movie called the clove hitch killer which is but roughly based on the btk murderer who shows up in Mindhunter.

Was that the one I was telling you about? Yeah. He was basically, this is a true story, and spoiler alert for this real event. Oh, I'm sorry. I'm going to stop soon. He murdered a bunch of women in the 70s, tormented police, sent notes, clues, hints, all this kind of stuff, and talked about what a great killer he was. Disappeared, vanished, and it was assumed that he was dead. In 2004, someone wrote a book or an article that was like,

he's probably dead or he's in jail for another crime. He'd be old now. You know, he's probably not much of a threat. Anyway, this guy re-emerged in 2000 and around that time and went, I'm still alive. And he sent in like memorabilia and notes that only the killer would know. He sent in a disc and he asked them like a floppy disc, you know, the old floppy discs, you know what I'm talking about.

I remember those. They were never floppy. Such a weird name. Well, no, they were before that. Oh, were they those bigger ones that were floppy and then they became hybrid people so he called them floppy? I believe so, yeah. Anyway, he sent them in and he's like.

That's a funny word, floppy. It certainly is. He goes, can you track me from a floppy disk and be honest? And they were like, we can't track you. So he sent it in. He'd wiped it, but there's still data still on a disk even when you do wipe it. So they found this dude and he's just some fucking nothing guy living out, just living with a family.

He was like 70. His name is Dennis Radar or something like that. And he's like church going, regular job, and he's just murdered a bunch of people for no reason. Whoa. And if he had have just shut his mouth, he would have got away with it. Wow. And there must be –

Well, there is. There's often an ego and a need to return to the scene. Anyway, I've spoken for way too long. You have. You've banged up rages. It does remind me of that other show that I loved. I mean, I find it really difficult to watch that kind of stuff because it gets in my head and I wake up and also especially being

Don't need to worry now, Claire. We've got a baseball bat. Oh, yeah. We're all fine. Everything is fine. No, but there was that other one. I can't remember what it was called about the bomb, the serial bomber. Oh, yeah.

Yes, Paul Bettany was in it. Yeah, there was a doco and then there was also like a TV series and it was brilliant. Yes. It's on Netflix as well. Manhunt. Manhunt. That's right, which is initially what I thought you were watching

when you were courting at Mindhunter. Yeah. But it's Manhunt. It's amazing. The difference between Manhunt and this is that guy, and I do not condone the bombs that he sent to people, his manifesto is like society is breaking down, people aren't talking to each other,

there's a disconnect between people and nature and all of those things. Which is everything I say to you all of the time. I'm like, that is true. I don't send bombs though. But also, don't be sending bombs to people. Yeah, he killed a lot of people. No, he didn't. He didn't kill that many.

He did kill people though because he sent a bomb to a workplace, an office building had that exploded. I think he killed a few and he maimed a few. But, yeah, he didn't. I'm fairly confident that, anyway, it's either here or there. No, exactly. But, anyway, all those things, if you feel like getting terrified in the middle of the night, go and watch them.

All right, can I do mine now? I'm sorry, yes. Excellent. Okay, so I'm going to throw up the format a little bit. We're going to move into something nice and fun. I have got two of my favorite salads to recommend. That's right. Some salads everyone likes to eat. Okay. The first one I have made for so many people over

the years and they love it. I don't know where I got it from. I think it was the age newspaper. It was a clipping and I clipped it out and stuck it in my recipe scrapbook. That's right. I have a scrapbook. I have it here. I've had it since 2003. That's scrapbook nerd. You put your bloody. Oh, whatever. It's got sunflowers on the front. It's beautiful. Don't interrupt me. It's my turn. I have the floor. So the first one is my chickpea roast pumpkin and crispy bacon salad.

That is a good salad. Exactly. We made that for Matt and Lauren who came around the other day for lunch and it's a delight. I often make it with chicken as well. You chuck a bit of chicken in there and it makes it a bit of a hearty meal. Exactly. You combine pumpkin, oil, and garlic and roast it. And then you also put the bacon in the oven and make it all crispy and crackly and crunchy.

And then you have a can of chickpeas, coriander, or parsley because you don't like coriander. And it's a bold statement to put coriander in something if you're making it for other people. Yeah, be telling people you're putting coriander in. Yeah. Don't just be doing it. Yeah, I know because I love it. It's like in a menu. They don't put coriander on a menu.

That's an important item that you need to put on there. Because it's a gene, right, the coriander gene? Yeah, it's like 50% of people. So some people have it and it throws back to when it was poisonous or something and makes it taste like soap. Anyway, I would eat that. I was going to call that shit, but I would. I would eat that shit for breakfast.

I love coriander. Anyway, and it has a – Hi, I'm Jessie Crookshank from the number one comedy podcast, that shit for breakfast. I love coriander. Anyway, and it has. Hi, I'm Jesse Cruikshank from the number one comedy podcast, Phone a Friend, which I strongly advise you listen to. You know what else I suggest you look into? Becoming a host on Airbnb. Did you like that segue? Thank you. I recently started putting my guest house on Airbnb when I'm out of town, and I didn't realize how easy it would be until I did it. If you have a spare room, you could Airbnb it or your whole place could be an Airbnb. It's a great way to make a little extra money by doing not a lot, which frankly is my mantra in 2024. To learn more, go to

Airbnb.ca slash host. The lemon and garlic dressing, which is literally just lemon juice, olive oil and a crushed garlic clove. And it's a sheer delight. Everyone loves it. I often chuck in some feta, some Danish feta, if you're into that kind of thing. I am. And also I put in some rocket as well or baby spinach leaves. Oh, very good. Toss it all around and it is a sheer delight.

Okay, so that is one salad that I recommend. Great for a lunch. Very portable. It's interesting you say that because a Unabomber actually killed three people and injured 23 others. Oh, my God. I'm trying to take for a lunch. Very portable. It's interesting you say that because a Unabomber actually killed three people and injured 23 others. Oh, my God. I'm trying to take it to somewhere light and fun. People's lives are hard enough.

I'm sorry. Going on about murderers. Jesus. Okay, he's got something to tell us, I'm sure of it. Anyway, I'm also going to talk about another book that was recommended to me on one of my favourite podcasts, and this book is called Community. It is a recipe book, and it is by Hetty McKinnon who has an amazing name.

She used to live in Sydney. Now she lives in New York and she has this, it's sort of the start of this empire of food. I know. Cosmopolitan lifestyle. It's salad recipes from the Arthur Street Kitchen, which was her business, and she used to cycle around Sydney just dropping off these delicious salads to everybody.

And I know people are like. People who want them? No, just random strangers. She'd just throw salad at them. You know the time we found like a bag of lemons at the door and I was like, I'm not eating a random bag of lemons. There was no note. No, that's right.

It was just hanging on our door, which, by the way, I would start doing because we have a lot of lemons at the moment. That's true. Turns out it's that weird neighbour. She wasn't weird. She was lovely. She was going through a hard time. She was.

She gave us some lemons. Just leave a note, though. I can't be eating random food delivered to my house. I need to know. I didn't know they had a lemon tree. Do they have a lemon tree? Did she just go to the shops and buy 12 lemons? No, she had a lemon tree.

I didn't see any lemons. But we didn't know that until, like, weeks later when she was like, did you like my lemons? And I was like, yes. I didn't eat them because I wasn't sure where they came from. Who knows? Don't be eating random food. If Disney has taught us anything, it I didn't eat them because I wasn't sure where they came from. Who knows? Don't be eating random food. If Disney has taught us anything, it's don't eat fruit that people are leaving at your doorstep.

Particularly from old ladies. Exactly. Exactly. You never know. That's Snow White, not one of my favourite Disney movies. It's an old one. Anyway, back to my salad recipes. Yes.

Good Lord. So Hedy McKinnon would cycle her bike around and deliver these delicious salads. This one is my favourite from her book. It's called Spiced Sweet Potato Pie Lentils and Rocket with Honey Roasted Walnuts. It's sugar and spice and all things nice. It is seriously one of the most delightful things to eat. Have I made this salad? You have.

I've made it for you before. I make it when the girls come over on Thursdays. Chicken and salad and ham and salt. What was it? Shut up over there. You shut up. It's sweet potato lentils rocket with honey roasted walnuts. Do you remember the honey roasted walnuts?

Oh, that's a good one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, mate, they're so delicious. Can you put pomegranates in that one? You can, but this one doesn't have pomegranates in it. But you can do that. No, it's literally the parmesan cheese and the walnuts that really take this to the next level. You should just make that then. Just that. Just parmesan cheese and walnutsnuts that really take this to the next level. You should just make that then.

Just that, just parmesan cheese and walnuts. Can you let me finish my salad? Dear God. So the sweet potatoes are roasted with the warming spices of cumin, cinnamon, and nutmeg. And the honey roasted walnuts have chili flakes, honey, turmeric, and sea salt. And you kind of roast them. They become kind of sticky and crunchy and just like magic. And then the sweet vinaigrette that you put on top is honey, garlic,

red wine vinegar, extra virgin olive oil and sea salt and black pepper. And then the rest is pie lentils, all your roasted sweet potatoes with all your lovely herbs, like soft herbs including parsley, chervil, tarragon, chives, dill, coriander, rocket leaves, and then your parmesan, and you just mix it all up together. You can have it warm. You can have it cold. You can make it for the week.

It's a delight, and I love it, and it just is very hearty and warming, and I often sometimes add chicken to it too because all her recipes are vegetarian. Sometimes a girl just wants some meat. What's chicken? Did you like that? That was great. Did you make that? What do you mean? Sometimes a girl likes some meat. What's chervil? Did you like that? That was great. Did you mean that?

Thanks, mate. What do you mean? Sometimes a girl likes some meat. Yes, I like protein. I always feel like some protein. Okay. What's chervil? Is that a thing that Richard Gere got in trouble for, allegedly?

It's a tiny animal. It's a little squirrel. Like a squirrel-esque animal. No, it's just another type of herb. It's like a leafy green herb. Let me tell you, chervvil, I've got enough herbs. We don't need you. Anyway, those are two delicious salads if you want something different

to have for lunch. If you make them ahead, you can have them for the week. They keep really well too. Very good. I feel like roasted anything, like with garlic and sea salt and olive oil. It makes anything better. I agree. It does.

It's a delight. It's awesome. It's a great time. It does. It's a delight. It's awesome. It's a great time in your mouth. It's a whole party. I would recommend Community by Hedy McKinnon as a great way of enjoying vegetables. The book is separated into all kinds of vegetables too. She has things on fungi, which are like all the mushrooms.

Then she goes through like all of the things like pumpkin and sweet potato and regular potatoes. Then she talks about like legumes and all those things. Yeah, and sweet potato and regular potatoes. Then she talks about like legumes and all those things. Yeah. And she has it. What do you mean? Legumes are vegetables. Anyway, it's all separated into like chapters and I think it's really excellent. Did you know, actually, random fact, she has a whole chapter called Everybody Loves Brassicas. And do you know what brassicas are, James? First of all, why would I know this, that she has a whole chapter on a thing that I've never heard of?

Well, you have heard of them. That's what I'm trying to ask you. Do you know what they are? I have no idea. What kind of veggies they are? This is probably boring for everybody else, but I enjoy it. It's good for your health. Broccoli, cauliflower, turnips, Brussels sprouts, cabbage, kale, cavolo, nero, and kohlrabi

are all brassica family vegetables. Okay, so some vegetables. Got it. Correct. Exactly. They're really delish, though. Who doesn't love a broccoli? It's a meal in itself, mate. kohlrabi are all brassica family vegetables. Okay, so some vegetables. Got it. Correct. Exactly. They're really delish though. Who doesn't love a broccoli?

It's a meal in itself, mate. It's got that pocket of hot, I don't trust it. But it looks like a tiny tree. I know that. That's how I get our son to eat it. And I mean cauliflower roasted. Oh, magic. Or that's the cauliflower one. I think that's the one you have had before.

Roasted cauliflower with the pomegranate seeds. Oh, a sheer delight. Or covered in a cheese sauce. Who doesn't love a cauliflower in a cheese sauce? Me. All right, it's 19 minutes. Cheese sauce is overrated. Move right along.

I feel like that was the best segment I've ever done, and you looked at me like you were laughing through the whole thing. I wasn't laughing. I enjoy a salad as much as the next loser. Oh, good God. Continue. I've got a really much as the next loser. Oh, good God. Continue. I've got a really good recommendation. Me too.

I picked this one just for you. Yes. It's a comic by a French comic writer and artist called Carole Morel. Can't even say the name. How would you say? Is it Carol? C-A-R-O-L-E? I don't know, mate. It's your suggestible. I'm spelling it to you. C-A-R-O-L-E? I don't know, mate.

It's your suggestible. I'm spelling it too. C-A-R-O-L-E. What's that in French? C-A-R. Is it Carole? A Carole? This is so boring.

Carola? I don't know. Carola. Carola. Carola. Carola la la la la. She wrote, she wrote, she's so happy with herself. Colleen, just edit out this 10 minutes of laughter.

If you could, that would be great. Continue. Don't – you're so happy with yourself. Colleen, just edit out this 10 minutes of laughter. If you could, that would be great. Continue. I'm going to get to my recommendation. So it's called Louisa Now and Then. The English translation is done by Mariko Tamaki. Doesn't work, Jo. Jo.

Jo. That's my friend Jo. That's your best friend. Well, one of your many friends. I've got many friends, Claire. One of your three friends. One of my three friends. That's your best friend. Or one of your many friends. I've got many friends, Claire. One of your three friends that you see. One of my three friends. That you don't hit with a baseball bat when you see them. That's true.

I used to have four. You do that. We should have one of those letterboxes where, you know, people would open up the letterbox and just look an eyeball out of. You know, in those old-fashioned letterboxes. I could see you doing that and just like eyeballing. No, just look at the window. Oh, yeah.

I can just look at the window and go, who's that? Yeah, but the beauty of that is that you wouldn't be able to, no one would see your face. I don't care if someone sees me. I'll look and just go, I'm not here. I'm not here. Come back another day. All right, anyway.

This is a television. All right, tell me what the thing that you recommended for me physically is. Louisa Now and Then is set in Paris of 2013. Oh, I already like it. I thought you would. And it's about 33-year-old Louisa. And she somehow through time travel or magic or whatever you want to call it, a 15-year-old version of her from the past just kind of turns up in her area.

In Paris? Yes, in Paris. And it's one of those things where it's highlighting the differences between being in your teens and in your 30s, the dreams that you kind of have as a teenager, which can be great or naive compared to the crushing despair that you actually experience in your 30s and where, why aren't you where you should be by that particular time

or maybe you should be proud of the accomplishments that you have made at that point in time. And so it's these two, you know, one, one with, well,

they both have obviously intimate knowledge of the other, but it's a, it's a really interesting look and kind of captures what it feels like for me, at least to kind of be, have been both of those ages and go, yeah, I remember being 15, being 15 was rad. And it was, or was it being a teenager was awful, oh, yeah, I remember being 15. Being 15 was rad.

And it was rad. Or was it? Being a teenager was awful, actually. Whatever it was. It ebbs and flows. You know, there are advantages to both. What's the art style? I couldn't explain it to you, but good, let's say.

Good and friendly and fun. And it's kind of also a little bit depressing of kind of like because she hasn't got the job that she maybe envisioned that she wanted to have, but it's a good job. I mean, she does well. She's got an apartment in Paris and whatever, but she's maybe kind of denying who she is as a person in some ways, both versions, and they're coming to terms with that. And they kind of use each other to kind of work through it, plus the relationship with

her mother and all these kinds of things. So yeah, I would highly recommend it. And it's kind of an independently published, I believe, last year. So I don't know how popular it is or not. But sometimes I'll just Google best comic books of whatever and then you just pick like one at random and this is the one that I'm up with. That sounds really good. Okay, I'm definitely – what was it called again?

It's called The Girl Who Was Going to be murdered no it's called louisa now and then louisa and i'm 33 that's what i figured claire all right okay and i also will read i kill giants as well that you bought for me you're never gonna you might this is probably a good lead into comics for you because i could giants is like nice to read asterix religiously. I love that comic religiously. Is it, would you say asterix is your religion? No, we said religiously.

Well, I just used to read it really. Anyway, are you done? Can I do mine now with my asterix bit that I'm struggling? You're struggling there. I'm going to throw this asterix bit out there at an open mic. Here he goes.

Okay. No, that's legit. Sounds really good. I'm onto it. I'm into it. Okay. My, that legit sounds really good. I'm onto it. I'm into it. Okay. My last suggestible for this podcast episode is a musician.

Okay. Yeah, and it's actually a record that you bought me as well because we have bought a record player and we give each other records every Christmas. We do. And birthdays, which I have to say is an awesome thing. If you are a couple out there, and we've had a few people tweeting us to say that they're couples and they listen together it's the only podcast that

some of the blokes could get their girlfriend to listen to that they might both like which is awesome I appreciate that by the way I do I really really it's so lovely thank you so much guys and it's a really cool tradition because we have sort of Spotify that's just streams music all the time but there's something different about actually owning an album. Definitely. And having it in your hands. And you've got to kind of be conscious of like because it doesn't go for very long, it's a record and what's next and it's cool with our son as well. Exactly, to actually see it work and then listen to it.

And I love the album art on some records. Oh, me too. Yeah, it's really incredible. Well, this album art is beautiful. And just the sound, Claire, it's so rich. It's kind of a richness that you couldn't even experience on a streaming service. Let's move along.

Just that crackle, that rich crackle. Good. Here we go. Sounds like roast pork. I do love roast pork. Going back to how much I love meat. Anyway, I shouldn't. It's not even good for the environment, but it's delicious.

Anywho, my recommendation is Courtney Barnett. I know Courtney Barnett. Yeah, she is a Melbourne-based musician who's made it really big, actually, in the UK and the US. She is indie rock. She has Milk Records, which is her own record label. It's an indie label. And her debut album, she did a couple of EPs before that,

including a friend called Emily Ferris, which she did really, really well. But her debut album is the one you bought me, and it's called Sometimes I Sit and Think and Sometimes I Just Sit, which I think is kind of sums up my life in general. I just like sitting sometimes without thinking too much. It's excellent. So it won four Ari Awards, including Best New Artist in 2015. It won a Grammy Award for International Female Solo Artist of the Year.

Whoa. I know, crazy. And then in 2016 it also, yeah, won, oh, no, sorry, it won Best New Artist at the 58th Grammy Awards and then International Female Solo Artist of the Year 2016 at the Brit Awards. So she's just really smashing it and she grew up around here. She used to drive pizzas through her living before she kind of made it big.

Like on a tour. Like on a, no, she just was a pizza delivery woman. I'm just saying. Which I really respect. She has, it's just a really fun song. Her influences are Darren Hamlin. I love Darren Hamlin. My favorite song of his is I Wish That I Was Beautiful For You.

That's a good song. Oh, it's so good. I wish that I was beautiful for you. So good. And then all these things as well. My favorite Darren Hamlin songs are Elbows and Falling Aeroplanes. So keep going. Thank you very much.

Yeah, those are really good ones too. He's brilliant. These are all Australian musicians. So I thought if you're somewhere overseas and you might not have heard of them. Another one of her influences is Paul Kelly, who's one of my relis. That's relatives, by the way. Oh, yeah. Relatives.

And he has written lots of music. One of my favourites is Meet me in the middle of the air um careless every fucking city looks the same which is great and if i could start today again so those two blokes are great musicians but courtney barnett before too long yeah so good jess perkins loves uh paul kelly she does, from our podcast, Do Go On. And so some of my favourite Courtney Barnett songs are so – they're quite funny and dry. So she's a really amazing guitarist. She's actually left-handed.

So she plays the guitar either upside down or constructed. Oh, yeah, I'm just looking at this here, yeah. Yeah, she plays constructed guitars. So she actually gets them built specifically for a left-hander, which is amazing. And she plays acoustic, also electric. She's played in a lot of other bands. But her favourite songs of mine, one's called Avant Gardener,

which is basically about an asthma attack in a garden. And it's just really funny. She has a really great way of kind of satirising regular boring things and kind of putting in a punchy lyric. Yeah, right. There's another one called Deprestin, which is basically about house hunting in Preston, which is a pretty depressing suburb of Melbourne.

Though it has some great pockets. Preston's coming up, man. It is coming up. Back when she wrote it, though, it was a pretty depressing place. So Deprestin's cool. You'd do well to get into Preston now. You would, definitely. There's one that I thought you might like.

It's called Dead Fox, which is she saw some roadkill on the road and she wrote it. But it's just a really funny, great song. Why would that be the one that I might like. It's called Dead Fox, which is she saw like some roadkill on the road and she wrote it. But it's just a really funny, great song. Why would that be the one that I would like? I don't know. I don't know. I thought you might find that interesting. I kill eight foxes.

All right, here he goes. And, yeah, one of the lyrics in that song is, if you can't see me, I can't see you. And it's just like it works on so many levels. Obviously that's something that's written on the back of a truck, right? Like if you can't see the truck in the mirror. Oh, it is too, yeah. But it's also, there's a lot of layers to it.

It's kind of about her relationship as well. It's quite funny and great. Yeah, she's got lots of really great ones. And she released her second album, Tell Me How You Really Feel, on the 18th of May in 2018, which has done really well as well. I still prefer her first album, but City Looks Pretty is a track from that, from her second album, and that's really great as well. She's also openly gay and wrote a lot of songs and played in the band

with her partner, Jen Cloher. They're not together anymore and you can kind of tell that in the record that she released, Tell Me How You Really Feel, because they broke up in 2018 when it was released. Oh, yeah. It's like 42 Minutes of Crying, isn't it? Yeah. I'm sorry.

That's really sad. I'm sorry to hear that. That's really sad. Anyway, they started Milk Records together, which is an independent record label. So, yeah, just really, really great, interesting, cool musician. And she's probably got a great cover version of a song on Like A Version on Triple J. Probably. She would, definitely.

She also has a great song, Pedestrian At Best, and one of the lyrics is, Give me all your money and I'll make some origami, honey. And it's just really fun and funny. I mean, it sounds worse when you say it. It does sound worse when you say it. But a lot of her songs are kind of half-spoken and sung. They're just great.

But I'd start with Avant Gardener because that's really fun and Depressed In is really fun as well. And Pedestrian at Best is actually good too. Alright. We're at 29 minutes, James. We've got to barrel it along. She covered Kanye West's Black Skinhead on Triple J's version. There you go. Now, do you have something that somebody has written in for for a recommendation? I actually have one in front of me. Alright. I'll just get mine. I do, but it's on my phone. Hold on. This is from Sarah, whose Twitter handle is ChippyLovesYou1.

She read Three Women. She said, finished one of the most extraordinary books. This is one that you recommended I have ever read in my life. Thanks so much, SuggestiblePod, and to me and you. But really, it should be more to you because I have not read that book and I wholeheartedly do not recommend it. Oh, you haven't read it? You don't know? Oh, thanks so much. That's what I'm saying and I wholeheartedly do not recommend it. Oh, you haven't read it? You don't know?

Oh, thanks so much, mate. That's what I'm saying. I'm so glad she really enjoyed it. It's very extraordinary, really deeply intense. It comes with a caveat because it's a full-on book, but so worth a read. We're changing lives here, Claire. We're changing lives one listener at a time.

Yeah, I reckon my salads are going to really change people's lives, especially that honey roasted walnut. You mock, Claire. You mock, but you're probably right. Yeah, I reckon my salads are going to really change people's lives, especially that honey roasted walnut. You mock, but you're probably right. Yeah, all right. I have a recommendation from Jar Elijah. She says, hi, Claire, just catching up on Suggestible and thought if you enjoyed the book City of Girls, which sounded a lot like Tales of the City.

There's a book series in many older seasons, but it recently had a Netflix original series in the modern day, which is wonderful and definitely fills that niche of women's freedom and sexuality and super diverse. Okay. Tales of the City. I'm totally going to check that out. Sounds right up my alley. Fantastic. Now look, we're well over 30 minutes, ladies and gentlemen. I'm just going to say, look, if you want to leave a review on your bloody iTunes app, you're more than welcome to do it. We really appreciate it. Tell a friend, tell your partner, tell the person next door, drop off a bag of lemons with a note saying, listen to Suggestible. You could do a review just on your app, like I said, like Toasty Future did, who said, five stars, top shelf stuff. After running on the slim side of leftover weekly Planet episodes to listen to a work, I finally started

drifting out to other Planet broadcasting channels and surprise, they've all been great so far. This one is no exception and I love the recommendations given by Claire and James and the laughs we get along the way. So far I've got Dark Emu and the Lost Man to look forward to, books that I definitely wouldn't have heard of. Otherwise, thanks for the suggestibles. Thank you for the review, Toasty Future. Well, and thank you, James, for reading that in a strange voice.

You're welcome. You're a strange man. That's true. If you want to reach the show at SuggestiblePod on Twitter. And Instagram. That's where I like to live. I'm on Instagram at Claire Tonti. I'm on Twitter at MrSundayMovies, but I don't really tweet there very much.

Twitter's quite angry. It is. And I'm at MrSundayMovies. Goodbye, everybody. I hope you have a fantastic week. And remember, if someone comes into your house, you can cave their head in with a baseball bat. No, certainly not. No.

Just go to PlanetWorldCasting.com where you can find lots of other relaxing podcasts to listen to. That's true, like Shusha. Like Shusha, Alistair Tremblay-Birchall's sleep podcast. Very funny, relaxation podcast. It's for relaxing. So great. Okay. Thanks, ladies and gentlemen.

Have a good week. Goodbye. Boop. That button makes a weird noise when you press stop record. Thank God the show's over, Claire. Stop it. I hate doing this. This podcast is part of the Planet Broadcasting Network.

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