Suggestible - Beer is a conspiracy.

Episode Date: July 10, 2019

Suggestible things to watch, read and listen to hosted by James Clement @mrsundaymovies and Claire Tonti @clairetontiThis week's Suggestibles:The RoverArthur ParkinsonDark EmuLeftoversCeleste BarberState of the UnionDie Another DayFollow the show on Instagram and Twitter @suggestiblepod or visit www.planetbroadcasting.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Who else is here? I'm James Clement. I'm here also. Both of us are here for the podcast. We suggest things to you so you can listen to them or ignore our advice. Correct. Exactly. All right.

And as always, the gentleman's first on this podcast, it's your turn. Excellent. Now, Claire, I know every week I bring death and destruction and AI and the future and misery. Oh, here we go. Yeah. It's only... Yeah.

Got it. I'm sorry. I'm interrupting you. Go on with your dark, miserable recommendation. Well, I was about to say only one of my things this week is that. And the other is a lighthearted good time. So look, I'll get the grim one out of the way first. This is a movie from 2014.

It's called The Rover. Okay. You're nothing but consistent. Thank you. That sounds AI related. It's not AI related, but I want you to imagine a world 10 years from now. Dark. Desolate.

Yes. No plants. Yep. Everybody's dead. Yep. Your brains are in a computer. No, Claire. All of those other things.

There's a robot digging a hole. There's no robots. What? It's Australia about, you know, it's like 10 years from like some apocalyptic event. Was it a financial crisis? Was it a nuclear something? Whatever. Did the bloody Twitter get out of hand and too many people got cancelled or whatever?

I don't know. Yes. Yes. But it's 10 years from now. It's directed by David Michaud, who I'm probably saying that wrong, but he directed Animal Kingdom. He's also a writer-producer. He's Australian.

He's also a writer-producer on Catch-22, and it stars Guy Pearce, who, of course, you would know from many things. Australian actor. You know Guy Pearce, right? Correct. From the man from Snowy River. Yes. What's the one where he's with Claudia Carbon and they body swap?

Oh, I don't know. That's my main reference. What's the one where he's with Claudia Carbon and they body swap? Oh, I don't know. That's my main reference. That's the one you go to? Okay. For the comic book fans out there, you could say he plays the Mandarin in Iron Man 3. Spoiler alert. Both those mics on or just one? No, they're both on.

You don't trust me. Okay, because I can't see the lights from here. Yeah, no, you don't like being not in control. No, no, it's kind of a lack there. Now I know how Mason feels. You can just go, whatever. Just not worry about it. Anyway, it also stars Robert Pattinson, or as we call him on the weekly planet,

Robat Battenbat, which is his nickname because every, every, hit my mic, every new Batman. So unprofessional. I know. Professional. Every new Batman actor needs a name, like Batfleck, et cetera, and so forth. Mr. Bat and Bat. Yeah, so he's Robat Bat and Bat.

And I know some people are like, well, how could he be Batman or whatever? He's the sparkly vampire from Twilight. You watch a movie like this and you see how he's got so much range. So basically society has collapsed. Guy Pearce is just a man drinking at a bar. It's like a Mad Max world. It's like the road is that kind of future. And somebody steals his car.

And it just goes from there. So it's about a man going after a group of people who have stolen his car. And he ends up running into Robat Battenbass, whose brother is one of the people who stole his car. And you're like, why does he even care about this car? And that kind of unfolds. He's a man who's got nothing to kind of live for. And like seemingly no purpose.

Like a lot of people in this movie's society is just completely crumbled and everybody in it does at least one terrible, unforgivable thing. So you're like, do I want any of these people to survive this at all? And look, if you want a grim fun time, minus the fun, check out The Rover. He's a great director. Keep an eye on this bloody guy because he makes bloody crack and stuff. I see. Why is it called The Rover?

Because it's like a western in the future. So he roves. He just roves, mate. He roves the post-apocalyptic desert. And he's a big fan of Australian comedian slash late night host Rove McManus. That's his main claim to fame. That's the main thing, yeah. Whatever happened to Rove McManus?

What's he doing now? He's still doing lots of great stuff. He's Hoobians on the ABC. Yeah, he's doing Hoobians, but he's hosting quiz shows and he's on the radio and he does a bunch of stuff. He does all kinds of things. I don't think he likes me very much. I think he nearly got Fallon's job, the late night host in the US.

In the US. Yeah, he was one of the people up for that role. Because he hosted Rove Live, which was, I would say, our most famous Australian talk show in our generation of the early 2000s. Probably the project is probably about the equivalent now. Anyway, that's neither here nor there. The Rover, what's your thing, Claire?

Okay, excellent. Thank you for that great suggestible. You can follow us at suggestiblepod on all the socials. I do already. You don't need to tell me. Well, I'm telling you, Claire. I already do. Okay, right.

Now it's my turn. Okay. So I am recommending a few things this week. One is an Instagram account because I have a book as well, but I'm a big old nerd. This is just going to go down the line of my big old nerdness. His name is Arthur Parkinson, so at Arthur Parkinson. And he is, you're going to hate this so much already,

he's a gardener and a chicken, like, the guy who looks after chickens. So he's a man who, I got it, okay, a man who dresses in a chicken suit who gardens. I got it. Next thing, please. No, he lives in the UK. It's actually much better than it sounds. He has, like, 15,000 followers,

and basically he's following this trend of, like, young, good-looking men who take photos of themselves with flowers and slash hens and feathers and put it online and he just writes a lot about gardening and sustainable things and i really like him so if anyone out there likes gardening and or chickens which i do go follow at arthur parkinson he's also written a book called the pottery garden which i've bought on booktobia see one of these guys who's like see one of these guys who guys who like, he's like, I'm just a down to earth nature guy, but really he's got like abs and he's holding an ax and putting his foot on a stump with his shirt on.

No, no. He's very flamboyant. Okay. He's very flamboyant. Well, then that's less threatening to me. Yeah, correct. Exactly. And he also loves, you know, Ab Fab?

What's her name? The blonde one. Yeah, absolutely fabulous. Yeah. One of them. What's her name? I don't know. I can't remember. Which one? The blonde one. Yeah, I don't know. Google it. Okay, I'll Google it. Colin, still like this bit. Go, Google. Okay, so

you can leave all this in, Colin. No, you can't. No, it's embarrassing. I can't remember her name. Her name is Joanna Lumley. Perfect. Joanna Lumley. He's a massive fan of Joanna Lumley and he's quite hilarious and shares a lot of things about her. And so I really like him a lot. I do of Joanna Lumley and he's quite hilarious and shares a lot of things about her. And so I really like him a lot. I do like Joanna Lumley. Yeah, she's really cool. There are only 39 episodes of Absolutely Fabulous.

Wow. I thought that went for like a thousand years. It feels like, because it's always on all the time. It's never not been on. It's like the Fawlty Towers as well of the thing. Though Fawlty Towers has less than that. Twelve, I think. Twelve episodes.

Genius. Amazing. All right. So that's my first recommendation. I'm sneaking in another one before has less than that. Twelve, I think. Twelve episodes. Genius. Amazing. All right. So that's my first recommendation. I'm sneaking in another one before you get another turn. What? I know. Against the rules.

My other one is a book called Dark Amy by Bruce Pascoe that I read that I also talked to you a lot about. Is this also about the environment? Yes, it is. I know. I'm playing environmental. I know. So you're all about the fact that we're all going to die and that death and destruction.

I am about life-giving things. I'm not all about that, Claire. I just think it's going to happen and it will. All right. I'm explaining Dark Emu to you and then you can have your turn. Bloody stop banging on. So Dark Emu is a book basically about what Australia looked like before the European settlers arrived.

And I know that sounds boring, boring. It's not boring, though. It's super fascinating because it looks at the way that Indigenous people in Australia cultivated the land, cared for the animals, and basically created like a giant garden across the continent. It was often thought in our history that we're told that they were hunter-gatherers so that they didn't have their own structures. Yeah, and they moved from place to place.

Yeah, exactly. And they kind of just existed by following the seasons and traipsing around but not actually owning any land or setting up structures. And this book just pulls that whole idea apart and shows that Indigenous people were growing grain, they were growing rice, they had villages, they built entire structures.

There was entire structures. Yeah, and dams and irrigation systems. They had means of catching fish on a huge scale to be able to feed hundreds of people. And it's just such a fascinating look at an Indigenous Australia that I don't think we get told about. This is the book that had the thing about the killer whales, is that right? Correct, I want to tell that story. All right, okay.

So there's a story about how the indigenous people over thousands of years, because there's evidence to suggest they were here for at least 60,000 years before European settlement, which is ginormous amount of time. And over thousands of years, they developed a relationship with the killer whales off the coast. And so whenever the killer whales sensed that there was an injured whale in the area, like a big, a blue whale, they would herd the blue whale towards the shore, allowing the Indigenous people to then spear it and then they would have a feast. And then the Indigenous people would share the tongue of the whale with the killer whales. And it became this kind of like

symbiotic relationship developed over thousands of years. Anyway, as it happens, it continued even after European settlement for a while until a disgruntled settler was annoyed and decided to kill a killer whale. And then they just completely destroyed an entire thousands of thousands of people. So the killer whales were basically like, well, fuck you. Yeah. And they never came back.

They never come back. Yeah. Because they saw a human being kill one of their pod. So that was it. Excellent. It's just a metaphor for all the terrible things we've done. Now there's no whale tongue for anybody. I'd be having whale tongue soup if it wasn't for these guys.

You would be. Exactly. Anyway, it's a really fascinating book. Yeah. And that's interesting you say that because we worked in indigenous community for a year. We did. We moved up there. And the stories that the schools tell, the communities, the white side

of the communities tell is when they got up there, all the Indigenous people were dying and they came in and rescued them and put them in communes and put them to work or whatever, which is absolute bullshit. Yeah. Like they weren't there for 60,000 years and then you got there just in time. No, exactly, exactly right. And that's exactly, it's just so ridiculous to even think about. I mean, they existed peacefully as well, really, which is kind of mind-blowing when you think about an entire civilization living over this kind of size of land and living peacefully off the land in a sustainable way.

And even because a lot of the book Bruce Pascoe has researched and read a lot of the early settlers' first impressions of the land when they arrived and what they were looking for was areas of land that was farmable, right, that they could then people bring across from good old, ye old England and set up their houses and set up their villages and set up, you know, basically farming land for cattle and sheep. And what he discovered through reading the up, you know, basically farming land for cattle and sheep. And what he discovered through reading the early, you know, writings of these settlers

was that Australia was like a massive garden. And it was, and so many of the areas that these settlers describe as being almost like fields of, you know, wheat or fields of rice. Because they did a lot of backburning and things like which revitalises vegetation. And they still use, there's still methods like that used today. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. And I think what's interesting is by the time, because they obviously wiped out a lot of the Indigenous population, by the time a lot more people came over from Britain, the land

looked very different. Yes. From when they first arrived because of the amount of effort that the Indigenous people went to shape the landscape. The land here is not so much where we are, but it's brutal. Like it's really, yeah, like the coast is not so much, but yeah. I remember hearing stories as a kid about that, how when the settlers got here, they were like, well,

this looks different than what we were imagined. And the story that I was told as a kid was they arrived in the dry season and so that's why it looked that way. It looked different. Yeah, but that's not true. No, it's actually just that they wiped out a lot of the Indigenous population. Because you think you'd just wait three months and then be like, oh, this is fine.

But that wasn't, you know. No, exactly, because it was so finely tuned. The complexity by which they used fire to shape the land around them and even to grow food like yams everywhere. Anyway, this is probably really boring to people that aren't interested in Indigenous culture, but I just find it fascinating to think that, you know, we have this European idea that we were the conquerors of the land and do things the right way.

And then with the climate the way that it is at the moment now, you think we have a lot to learn about how to care for and nurture our planet from our Indigenous peoples. Anyway, that's a recommendation. Darky Mew, Bruce Pascoe. All right. I've sufficiently bored you. Thanks for bringing up the mood, Claire.

Yeah, good job. I bring the death and destruction. All mine's fictional. Yours is like. Arthur Parkinson, the pottery garden. Yours is like, and we ruined a society more than you thought you did. Yeah, we really, it's just tragic. It's not incorrect.

It's actually really tragic, but also fascinating. I just had no idea that they grew, you know, grains and rice. We can wait for clean water solutions. Or we can engineer access to clean water. We can acknowledge indigenous cultures. Or we can learn from indigenous voices. We can demand more from the earth. Or we can demand more from ourselves.

At York University, we work together to create positive change for a better tomorrow. Join us at yorku.ca slash write the future. Here's a YouTube channel I've been keeping track of for a while. It's called The Leftovers. It's Helena Roos and Pippa Mills. And I think, oh, Pippa Mills, sorry. And there's another writer, I think Pippa's brother, who works on this.

And basically, it's a comedy web series starring these two. And it's just a whole lot of the things that they get into and it's about dating and relationships and work and life and fun and texting and and going out and staying in and drinking and hangovers and university and getting jobs and all those kind of things it's relatively small it's about 14 000 subscribers which actually isn't that small really when you think about it but they've actually they've just recently released last week a new series called Internment. And it's like eight or ten episodes and they're short episodes. I think it's funded by Screen Australia as well,

who also work with Aunty Donna and a few other local comedian groups who people might know. There's a few people from Aunty Donna's sketches actually in this as well. But it's these two girls who will work in this, kind of this, I guess for lack of a better word, it's like a Mamma Mia-esque organization or like a new media kind of organization and how

they're working as unpaid interns and the jobs that they have to do and how things are expected of them and how at the end, you know, they're probably not going to get jobs anyway and why are they doing any of this and it's coffee runs and belittlement. And it's slightly kind of a hyper-reality kind of situation, but also it's very much grounded in real world and real experiences. So yeah, I would say definitely check out left. It's not the leftovers, which is that excellent TV series. Have you seen the leftovers? No.

Yeah. It's a guy who created lost. It's I'll talk about another day. All right. I thought it was the let down, which is that cool TV series that you hate about parenthood on ABC. I hate it because it's too much.

It's funny though. It's like looking in a mirror. It is, but it is hilarious. So, yeah. So, if you like comedy, like fun comedy thing, and I think you might really like it as well. I've been meaning to show you for a while. So, I thought, what better opportunity to bring it up in the podcast where we're forced to talk to each other.

It's called Leftovers, but colleagues will link it below. Yeah, it's definitely worth checking out. Give them a bloody subscribe and a watch. That sounds awesome. It is awesome. That sounds real up my alley. It really is. Okay, excellent.

So there you go. There's some fun for you, Claire. There's so much fun. Oh, speaking of fun, before we get on to our other recommendation, I have another recommendation for an Instagram account. I'll just swing back and forth. Okay. Who's-

This one's at Celeste Barber. Who's bloody cooking potatoes all day? No one's, who's Celeste Barber? Who's bloody cooking potatoes? No one's cooking potatoes. Celeste Barber's bloody hilarious. If you don't know her, she's got like billions or millions of followers on Instagram. Billions and millions? Yeah, all of the things. She is an Australian comedian

who is now followed by the likes of you know, Buena Fattura. Oh, I know Celeste Barber. Yeah, because she's in that show that you love. The Letdown, yeah. But she just does really hilarious parodies of, you know, Buena Favre. Oh, I know Celeste Barber. Yeah, because she's in that show that you love. The Letdown, yeah. But she just does really hilarious parodies of, you know, model and celebrity photos, which I know out the surface doesn't sound particularly exciting, but they are so hilarious and the way she uses her physicality and her body is just so brilliant and they're just so cheerful and it also reminds me

that it's okay for women to not look perfect. Do you know what I mean? She doesn't take herself too seriously. She's followed by like the Kardashians as well and, you know. 5.8 million. Wow. Correct.

Yeah. So she tours around the US all the time. Yeah, right. She used to be on All Saints for any Australians, you know, that local drama. Well, this is the one you were saying how she couldn't get work for and so she created her own work pretty much. She just created her own niche.

Yeah, because she doesn't look like your typical person that's on TV, you know, all perfect looking and skinny and blonde or whatever. Yeah. And so, yeah, and she's just got a very unique style of comedy, which we've talked about before, right? Often, and I think Tina Fey in an interview said this as well, often if you're unique or a bit different, you really have to forge your own way and

make your own work. Yeah. Which is like what you have done. Yes, Claire. I'm just like Celeste Barber in many ways. You look so tired. You've been rolling on the roll at the gym. No, I'm looking through our Instagram.

Yeah. I nearly died at the gym. I fucking, I nearly died. You nearly died. You did the rolling. I hate rolling. You don't recommend doing the rolling. I do not.

Especially if I don't do it last. Yeah, I know. Because you'll nearly die. I haven't been recommend doing the rowing. I do not. Especially if I don't do it last. Yeah, I know. Because you'll nearly die. I haven't been for a couple of days. I feel gross. That's because you have the flu, maybe. I don't have the flu. Well, I don't know.

I got a swab and it said that I did, but I don't feel as bad. I just feel tired. Who are you going to believe, medical science or your own feelings, Claire? Instead of going to the gym, I had a lamington. Where did you get a lamington from? At the movies. Oh, man. When I saw Toy Story 4.

I thought you had a secret lamington stash that I wasn't aware of. No, you always think I have secret stashes of food. Because you do. You're hiding food. I don't know what you're up to. I'm not hiding food. I just eat Kit Kats in my car sometimes. It's become a confession time.

That sounds insane. How much time have we got left? It's only 17 minutes Oh excellent So we've got plenty of time to talk about the last thing we're going to talk about Yeah which is real fun Yeah I'll do it

Gentlemen first obviously No but you've already had your turn Yeah you're right Okay and I've just confessed to my Kit Kat eating in the car thing Which sounds weird There's nothing wrong with that You know how many times I sneak out for a bloody Coke Zero or Coke Yeah

What has happened to you? You never used to be onto those Because I'm dying clint and i need energy to keep me going yeah you're dying inside because you're drinking cancerous liquid out of a can it really is it's so bad unless we get sponsored by them no no even if we get sponsored by them it absolutely is the worst thing you can drink it's like drinking poison poison. It is. It's so bad for you. Actually, I did see an empty can in the car the other day. Yeah. When our son was in hospital and I needed energy to not cry all day, every day.

That's true. More than you usually do in life. That's right. Yeah. Okay. Speaking of, let's talk about the State of the Union. Normally the podcast with Mason is I'm breaking down and he's like, everything's fine. But for this, we're both like, ah. Oh, we're both breaking down.

I know. I'm secretly eating Kit Kats. My husband's drinking poison. We've all got the flu. Everything's fine. I know. I know I have the flu. Now I know I have the flu because the doctor shoved this like weird cotton ball on a piece of wire up my nose all the way back into my sinuses.

And I nearly punched him in the face when he did it. Claire, that wasn't a doctor. That was a man at the bus stop. I don't know why you let him do that. But he said it was a free consultation. Because I look like a nice person. Yeah. And he licked the said it was a free consultation. Oh, that's a really good point. Because I look like a nice person. Yeah, and he licked the end of it and he went, yeah, that's the flow.

I paid him in Kit Kats. What? Yeah, how weird is that, though? It's such a weird feeling. You never see anything that far up your nose. Oh, speak for yourself, Claire. Speak for yourself. Drinking your Coke Zero up your nose.

I have, like, maybe two a week. Let's not talk about this like it's getting out of hand. I know, mate. It was looking daily the other day. The other day we went to the pub and you were like, I'm not drinking. I'm going to be really healthy. And then you ordered two pints, not pots, pints of Coke Zero. Diet Coke. Or Diet Coke.

Even worse. With like very little ice. So it was just, boys, I think a beer would be better for you. No, it's not calories wise, Claire. We're talking low calories. Yeah, but just because you're skinny, you'll still be dead. I'd rather be skinny and dead than drunk

and slightly heavier than I already am. And happy. Like relaxed and happy. Slightly portly. You'd rather be skinny and dead in your dead world with your ARs. As I get older, every time I look at a beer, all I think is now, you know how much I have to run to work up one beer? It's crazy.

It's like eating a loaf of bread. It's like eating four donuts. I'd rather eat four donuts, quite frankly. I don't really like beer that much. I don't even really like donuts. But a cold, cold one. A cold beer on a hot day is great. On a hot day after you've worked hard.

But look, you know me. If I want to drink, I'm doing cocktails, man. I'm getting fancy cocktails. The fruitiest cocktail in the world. Because I want to drink something that I like. Beer is a conspiracy. I've talked about this. You think everything is a conspiracy.

No, I think beer is a conspiracy. I think everybody's just kind of think No You think everything is a conspiracy Everybody's just kind of Got it in their head That it's the kind of thing That you have to drink You don't have to drink it You can drink anything else

You can drink water But you don't think That people like it I think a lot of people Don't like it And just drink it Yes A lot of people do

I think it's the opposite Or become Or become reliant on it Like Or it's not even It's just like a thing It's like a habit you fall into You crack one open Because it's not that good Like it's not even, it's just like a thing that you, it's like a habit you fall into. You crack one open.

Because it's not that good. Like, it's really not. No, but this is. Wine is better than beer. No. Scotch is better than beer. Bourbon, some bourbon is better than beer. This is ridiculous.

Vodka is better than beer. No, not everything is a conspiracy. Guinness is better than beer. I agree that some people will like beer and some people won't, but it's not a frigging conspiracy. I'd have a Guinness every day. That's like drinking cold soup. Have you ever had like a proper Guinness? It's incredible.

Yes, I have had a proper Guinness. Then you haven't. From a can with a marble in it. Again, you got it from the man at the bus stop. Newsflash, Guinness is beer. It's a stout. Which is a beer.. It's like a. Which is a beer.

But it's like red wine, white wine. Is this on? Can you hear me? Hello? It's a beer. I can hear you without the microphone. I can hear you because I'm sitting across from you. I'm losing my mind.

Anyway, let's get off this topic that beer is a conspiracy. Have we run out of time now? Speaking of marital. Dear Lord. Marital arguments. Try and think of other things that you thought were conspiracies. We can come back to things that I think are conspiracies. You think that the whole concept of work is a conspiracy.

Yeah, it's a trap. And the five-day week is a lie that people have been fed at school. Here he goes. It's an absolute fucking scam that is ruining people. Except for the people that need to go to an office to earn a living. Yes, but what? Yeah, I know. I understand it's a necessity.

He's ranting, guys. His eyes are getting intense. Why is it 5-2? Why is it not at least 3-4 or 4-3? It should be the other way. Why are you just saying numbers now? What do you mean I'm saying numbers? I'm not saying random numbers.

4-2, 6-1, 7-5. I'm talking about work week. It should be a four-day work week at least. Oh, okay. I didn't know what you meant. Not just saying numbers. 76-5. Numbers are a conspiracy.

22. Numbers are a conspiracy. Speaking of numbers. Okay, we're at 23 minutes. Okay. All right. Do you want to bring it up? I can't remember what it's called.

Oh, bloody hell. You're the professional. No, I'm not. Yeah, you're really not. You've never listened to my show. That's a conspiracy that you are. I listen to your show. No, you don't.

I listen for the ads. Yeah, exactly. Because I buy them for you. Well, buy them, get them. Anyway, I do listen to your show. I just don't listen to that. You don't have to listen to it. It's fine.

All right. I talk to you every day. It's like when people I know are like, I listen to your show. You don't have to listen to it. Don't feel I talk to you every day It's like when people I know like I listen to your show You don't have to listen to it Don't feel obliged to listen to it Anyway sorry go on I don't like Superman as much as you That's fine

Nobody does Alright That's not true A lot of people Love Spider-Man More than I do I do like Spider-Man Actually to be fair

Anyway Okay This is our last Suggestible Yep It's called State of the Union It's written by Nick Hornby.

It's a TV series. They're 10-minute episodes. And Nicholas Hornby is one of your faves or was one of your favorites. I like the one book that he wrote. I liked High Fidelity. I read some of his other books, but none of them are as good as High Fidelity. Correct. I feel.

There's a lot of repeating kind of things. There is. Correct. And characters and et cetera. So, the State of the Union stars Chris O'Dowd from The IT Crowd, who I love, the comedian, and Rosamund Pike. That's right, from Die Another Day, the Bond film from 2002 with Halle Berry and Pierce Brosnan.

Oh, I thought I was going to say Gone Girl, which I feel is a much better reference. Gone Girl. Everybody remembers Die Another Day from 2002 with the invisible car. I liked Gone Girl. Yeah, I know. I'm just joking. Nobody likes Die Another Day.

No. It's a terrible film. It is a terrible film. Anyhoo, yes, and it's really quite interesting. It's about the two characters, Louise and Tom, who meet in a pub immediately before their weekly marital therapy session. So it's just before they go in. They should just do a podcast.

Am I right? It'll be good for their marital state of the union. So each episode pieces together how their lives were before they got together, what drew them together, and then what has started to pull them apart. And you sort of find out one of them has been unfaithful. Exactly. And then why that kind of happens and it kind of unravels from there. Tom, Chris Adowd's character is just kind of every character that Nick Hornby writes.

Yeah, they both are. I mean, yeah, because a lot of – it's very – as soon as I found out this was Nick Hornby, I'm like, of course it is. I can't believe I didn't – Yeah, it's literally all his characters. Because he's like a schlubby guy. He's like, I'm just a guy who loves is. I can't believe I didn't. Yeah. It's literally all his characters. Because he's like a schlubby guy. He's like, I'm just a guy who loves collecting records and your job's more important than my job and I'm getting older.

But what does that mean? But I'm cool. I'm kind of funny. I'm still cool that I hate everybody. Oh, it's me. Oh, no. It is. It's literally you.

It's literally you. Or it was you, I reckon, when we first started dating. Yeah, so if you've seen, yeah, if you've seen, what I've come to realise about High Fidelity, the book and the movie, is the lead character is terrible. He's a terrible person. No, you weren't a terrible person back then. No, I disagree.

What did you think of it overall? Yeah, good. I mean, I think it's the performances that definitely make it because it's an interesting kind of insight into a marriage that clearly doesn't exist, I guess. But I think the two, the back and forth between those two are really good in it. Yeah.

Yeah, I really liked it too. I liked the way that it's only 10 minutes but the script is so great that you really get a sense of everything that's gone on with them, who they are as people, and you can see why they ended up the way that they did. And also while you're watching, because they're often bickering, and you can kind of see how the other misunderstands the other in their fight. Yeah, right, yeah. And I find that kind of interesting.

You feel a bit pervy, like you're looking in on someone else's relationship. Yeah, while they're also looking on other people's relationships in the actual show as well. Yeah, yeah. And there's some really sweet moments too. Yeah. And there's some really sweet moments too. Yeah. And there's kind of lessons in Tom. So Chris, our dad's character, is quite sort of insecure about his sort of life at that point.

And you can see that he kind of shuts down. And that's kind of where the problem started to stem from too because he didn't feel like he was good enough. Because she's quite a professional. She's a physician a physician yeah she's much better looking than him much better looking smarter obviously got her shit way more together and that's a lot of the dynamic of high fidelity as well like that it's kind of exact dynamic yeah yeah but he's got a lot to offer too though he's very funny and quite charismatic bitch schleppy he's He's Chris O'Dowd. Cut him some bloody slack there. He's a very successful actor. Yeah, I really like him.

I like him a lot. I like him. I love him in the IT crowd. He's great in that. Okay, so you like it? I do. I don't love it. I think some episodes, I think it starts really well and then it kind of dips a little bit,

but then it does get better. I think it ends pretty strong as well. I think it's probably a bit too long. Like it's a bit too. Do you think it's only, what, 10 episodes? Yeah, I think there's some kind of some Philip kind of stuff in there. Yeah. Yeah, it's interesting you say that.

I guess because it's set in the one place, just set in a park. That I don't have a problem with. I think they kind of retread a lot of like old ground a few times. But I guess that's kind of relationships as well. Yeah, I feel like that's kind of what relationships are i mean i wouldn't recommend watching it or like you could easily sit and watch it all at once but i would say break it up a bit probably do it in two or three sessions yeah i watched it all at once i think bad idea oh no i enjoyed it because it was short and it was something i felt like watching but i love that kind of stuff i love

examining emotions and looking at relationships and terrible rom-coms and all that stuff. It's right in my bag. And I love the movie Die Another Day, which is why I recommend whatever this show is called. Okay, of all the suggestibles that we've done on this show, Die Another Day is the number one pick. That's what people should take away from this. Correct.

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