Suggestible - Better Things

Episode Date: May 26, 2022

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charted. You know what I mean? Really catchy. Really catchy. It's got a really good earworm there. It certainly does. Definitely does. Hello. Welcome to Suggestible Podcast, a podcast where we recommend you things to watch, read and listen to. My name is Claire Tonti. James Clement is also, he's also here. I'm also here. He's also here. We are married. We recommend you things to watch and listen to. Did I say that already? I think you said that now. All right. Well, I've said it.

I mean, you said it in previous episodes. Correct. And now I've said it now. And I am one happy little clam over here, James. Why is that? I'm so happy. I don't know if anyone who is listening to this has noticed that in Australia we just had a federal election.

And our Minister of Australia has changed and he's much more socialist and maybe not left-leaning, shall we say. But more than that, the biggest part of it, and I don't know if this is, I feel like it's reverberated around the world. I feel like people have been covering it in the UK and America. Is it the She-Hulk trailer? Yes, it's the She-Hulk trailer. Wow.

No, it's that these incredible women have just like swept in and taken over a whole lot of really conservative blue ribbon seats that have almost never been held by independents before. Like a broom? Like a person doing house chores? Just like, oh, my God, you want me to explode? No. It's just there's so many things about this election

that I find so inspiring and wonderful. What do you find wonderful about it? Well, I think that, look, let's see. Let's all see, obviously, because, you know, because change often happens in increments. But I just think the absolute fucking ghouls that were running the country aren't. And that is the step in the right direction. And, look, I think there's a lot of good things that have been promised.

If half of those things happen, I would be happy. Can I list some of the cool things that are definitely going to happen? Definitely. Wow. Definitely. Okay. Just some definite things. For starters, there are more women. It's almost completely equal in the upper house in the Senate, which is a really, really exciting thing. And the Greens hold the balance of power in the Senate, which is also really cool because they are very, very strong on climate. So that is exciting in the Senate. In the lower house, the Greens party have also never had this many seats before. They've got at least three MPs, which is really exciting. The Teal Independents, who are all women, all really well-educated, incredibly smart leaders in their fields. We've got a doctor. We've got

like a businesswoman, Colors and Paddies. There's a doctor. There's a cowgirl. There's a former foreign correspondent. There's a Native American. Oh, stop. There's a woman. That's right. Anyway, they're women that have all done really well in their chosen fields, right, and have stepped in as independents who are really strong. I just totally ignored every joke you made because I'm too excited. It was the village people. I was doing a village people joke.

I totally ignored it. But I'm sure it was really funny. I'm just so excited. I can't contain it. I promise I won't talk too much more about the election. Because we've got things to suggest about. Yeah, no, go for it. Can I get some more feelings out?

All right. So because of that, we have all of these women who ran on a really strong climate-focused and integrity-focused bent, basically. They're all fighting for an anti-corruption commission, which we don't have in Australia. Not on a federal level. Not on a federal level. And we're one of the only OCD countries that don't, right?

So really exciting because we've had so much corruption within our government and rorting and spending to win votes, all the horrible things. So that is really exciting. But the biggest thing is this climate change, right? Yes. And these women often might be quite conservative in other ways but are just so, you know, climate-minded and practical and I just cannot wait for them to start changing the face of our Parliament House.

It's just I can't even explain how incredible it is to just see woman after woman beat out a man in their seats, which I know might sound very sexist but... Well, I don't... It's not... I mean, it is that but it's also that, like, as I said, they're ghouls, like a bunch of ghouls. Yeah, but also there was so much that came out. Brittany Higgins that I've talked about before.

Yeah, there were a lot of incredible people behind this. Yeah, was allegedly sexually assaulted in Parliament House. She was raped basically and has come out so strongly fighting for change. And her and the Australian of the Year Grace Tame have been campaigning. And the Women's March of last year, just so many things had to happen and so many women had to stand up and say enough is enough and expose the horrible corruption and the horrible abuse of power that was happening

within Parliament House and is still happening, that I just, there was this roar of women. And it really has changed things and it's given me more of a faith in democracy, you know, and just more faith in the Australian people because, see, these are some of the things that definitely will happen. So that, for instance, will happen. There's just more women in positions of power.

It has happened, yeah. It has happened, definite. Linda Burney is an incredible Indigenous woman and she is going to be the first minister who is a woman and Indigenous in the Indigenous Affairs portfolio, which in itself is incredibly historic and wonderful. So that's great. They're also promising to acknowledge the Uluru Statement of the Heart, which is an incredibly beautiful piece of writing that was written

by a whole lot of First Nations people that have come together from all around the country that was just ignored by a previous government. And it's a step towards enshrining a voice for Indigenous people in the Australian Constitution, which means you would have a First Nations voice enshrined. And it's to be a consultative power. So it's not like, you know, I just think it's such a no-brainer and so important. And it's a step towards a treaty

because we've never had a treaty in Australia, unlike in New Zealand. So anyway, that is so wonderful. And there's amazing childcare reform that they're looking at. And the biggest part, obviously, is that the target for climate has shifted under Labor. It's not far enough, but the fact that we've got so many Greens and Teal independents in there. Yeah, and I think a lot of people are now on board and I think the vote has reflected that.

And it only took record amounts of death and destruction because of bushfires and flooding to occur. Flooding, yeah. It all happened, like, very rapidly since the last election. Because the last election people kind of ignored the issue in a way. Yeah, it was like, yeah, whatever. Yeah, whereas it's now directly affecting people's lives, which is totally human and makes sense.

But it does show this real shift and it's shown the Labor Party and I think people who are invested in holding onto fossil fuels that the Australian people want things to be moved. That is goddamn gutful, Claire. Yeah, honestly. And so I feel like there's more bargaining power for the Labor Party to hopefully move their targets even more to the progressive. Yeah, I think once it's proven to be not only like a sustainable practice

but also profitable, that's when it's also going to make a huge difference and when hopefully those profits can be reflected in people's everyday lives. Exactly. And what's really interesting is if you look at the Teal Independents, all of them have won seats in areas that are traditionally very wealthy, very powerful people in those suburbs, right? Like former prime ministers have held those seats previously for the conservatives.

Yeah, they don't want their summer homes flooded. Well, no, exactly. And I know that's cynical, but yeah. Whatever, man, whatever it takes. And I guess because they have the privilege of not worrying about where their next paycheck is coming from, they also have the privilege of being able to focus on issues like climate change.

However, it is the biggest issue facing our entire planet and generation. I also kind of hate that. It's like, well, now that I've got a minute because I'm rich, I guess I'll solve climate change. But again, like whatever, as long as it's being done. It's partly that, but it's also education. It's the, you know, that upper echelon of.

There is this kind of anti-education kind of slant and you see it like the world over. It's like, oh, you think you're professional? You think you know better than me? I'm from the school of life. It's like, yeah, you're from the school of being a fucking idiot. Well, I mean, the Teal Independence, for instance, are all people from industry.

So, you know, like the head of I think it's the neurology department in one of the major hospitals. So people who have worked for a long time in the community and are from those communities, they're not career politicians. So they come in with very level heads with a world and wealth of experience and an idea about how vital it is that we move on climate. And then for us to be able to go to the world and to meet with Joe Biden and say we actually are moving the needle now

because it's been an embarrassment though on the world stage in so many ways. And anyway, I'm just, I know I might be really naive and I'm listening back to this video and being like. It's okay to be hopeful and positive. I agree. Because that's what we need.

And just the power of the people to shift this. And you've got to also, it's not the end. You've got to like keep on top of people. No, but the amount of people, and I'll talk about Sarah Wilson as an example who I interviewed on Tons. She, the amount of work she did at a grassroots level, educating people, campaigning for the right causes. Door to door. Door to door, like the thousands and thousands of volunteers.

It wasn't magic that these women got elected. It was a year's worth of thousands and thousands of community-led projects and volunteers where they really listened to their constituents, where they really heard what was really on people's minds and they had a gutful of the bullshit and the, you know, the spin and the lack of action and the lack of care and empathy in our leadership. And it just goes to show that, you know, all of that hard work really does pay off, you know. I've done some hard work this week. Anyway, let's get back to other things. You're not going to believe how much hard work I've done in relation to just things that I've watched that we're going to talk about.

Oh, here we go. Do you want me to go first or would you like to go first? No, no, I think I've done my first recommendation. Okay, yeah. All right, how about this? How about you just catch your breath, maybe take some Ventolin for your asthma that there's no doubt been set upon and then we'll get stuck in.

I hope Colleen's put a time code for that so if people are like, oh, my God, Claire, she's so political. People should know. I have faith in our listeners of this podcast. I feel like most of them are going to be like, yay, the women. Yay, the climate. You know? Yeah, absolutely.

Because they're sensible and, you know, aware and engaged. Well, I don't have faith in anybody. Anyways, I watched a movie called Duel, which is, and it's not to be confused with the Steven Spielberg movie Duel, which is about a truck trying to kill a man. Or Dune. Or Dune, which is a different movie altogether. Dune, Dune.

This was, just take a breath, Claire. This is a movie directed by Riley Streams and it stars Karen Gillan, who you might know. Do you know Karen Gillan? She's got red hair. She's from Doctor Who. Oh, yes, yes, yes. Not the one.

She's very funny. Not Donna. No, they're thinking of Donna. You're thinking of Catherine Tate. I am, who I love. She's a star. Hang on. She's in Guardians of the Galaxy.

She's got a shaved head, but you probably wouldn't recognise her. This is Karen Gillan. Show me, show me, show me. Oh, yes, yes, yes. So it stars Karen Gillan, Karen Gillan. What? Twice, what? Aaron Paul and Theo James.

So here's the synopsis. Upon receiving a terminal diagnosis, Sarah, Karen Gillan, opts for a cloning procedure to ease her loss on friends and family. When she suddenly makes a miraculous recovery, her attempts to decommission her clone fail, leading to a court-mandated duel to the death. Now she has one year to train her mind and body for the fight of her life. Okay?

So it's in this near future. It's, you know, it's a very dark, grim kind of like, you know, society that seemingly has structured its whole purpose now around cloning. Right? That part is you understand, I assume, right? Mm-hmm. Are you still catching your breath? Yes.

Sorry. My brain was like, yeah, I'm listening. I'm listening. No, no, no. I know. I know. So the thing is, though, it's not a, it's not really, it's not about cloning and it's not about like a vicious trial by combat because the whole thing is sort of building to the end

where Karen Gillan is going to fight Karen Gillan on a football field and they're going to shoot each other with crossbows, which is kind of what you're promised like at the start. But it's more of kind of like in the vein of something like Napoleon Dynamite. Like it's weird and dry and like dark. It's like an indie comedy really, you know, and it's about just

like depression and everyday life and not being fulfilled and all of those kinds of things. So don't go into it being like, well, I'm going to see an epic battle. This movie is about clones fighting clones like Jet Li's The One, your favourite movie. It's not that at all. It's really kind of low-key, really deadpan, very funny in moments. Like some of the funniest stuff is Karen Gillan is, the original Karen Gillan is being trained by Aaron Paul,

who you might know as Jesse from Breaking Bad. So he's training her how to basically kill herself at the end of the year. So, but it's like, but it's like silly training. It's things like, what weapon do you go for, how to do forward rolls, things like that. I would need to know that. I don't know that. If I was in a battle. Yeah, and it's interesting because it's also while one version

of her, like the clone, is optimistic and happy to be alive, she kind of is given up and knows that she's going to die, but it kind of flips because she realized that she's alive and she has something to live for. And the clone is like, actually, this sucks and I hate this. So it's kind of, you know, I really enjoyed it. So look, it's on a bunch of stuff, streaming platforms. I don't know which one.

I had to watch it on a VPN because it's not available here, but I think you can rent it on Prime and various other platforms overseas. It's called Duel, D-U-A-L. Check it out. I liked it a lot. All right. Okay, I'm going to maybe not check that out. I don't know.

There's too many battles and clones. No, you're not listening, Claire. It's not about battles and clones. I very specifically said that it was not about those things. Yeah, but I don't know. Karen fighting Karen. No, but. I don't know. I'm not going to get into it was not about those things. Yeah, but I don't know. Karen fighting Karen. No, but. I don't know.

I'm not going to get into it. You were not listening. You were too busy taking a breath. That's all right. Look, it's probably not up your alley. But you like Napoleon Dynamite, right? Oh, yeah. I'm not like overly.

You know some people just like there was a phase where people would quote it to each other constantly. Yeah. And I just never really understood it. It's the same with quoting The Simpsons. People just quoted at me constantly because I never watched it. I know as a child everyone's taking a horrible inhaled breath when I say that.

I just didn't grow up with it. I wasn't allowed to watch it. And so I just don't get it when people quoted at each other and I have that same feeling about Napoleon Dynamite. Like that's funny but, you know, I don't know. Sure, I understand. Introducing Uber Teen Accounts, an Uber account for your teen

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We watched an episode. I made you watch an episode, remember? Oh, yeah. I really enjoyed that. So it's created by the only downside is that it's created by Pamela Adlin, who is great, and Louis C.K. I just want to step in here and say that Louis C.K. is actually a victim of cancel culture, Claire,

and is not currently touring the world as a multimillionaire. Stop it. I just have to masturbate in front of you furiously. I mean, could you please not? I'm trying to do a podcast. All right. For anyone who doesn't understand that reference, it's because Louis C.K. is just as like masturbating in front of people a lot.

Yes, but he's really a victim of cancel culture. Women, colleagues, comedians. No, he's a victim of cancel culture. And somehow his career has just like come back up. No, he's a victim of cancel culture. Okay, the problem is as we have discussed, right, just because someone is horrible does that mean that we can no longer enjoy the art that they are involved in?

And I still don't know where I sit on that. Well, also I would say he is not the driving force behind this show. He's absolutely not. He's absolutely not. Pamela Adlin is so great and it's so feminist, this show, and so great in so many ways that it's just so worth watching and it would be sad not to because of what Louis CK had done because Pamela Adlin finally has her own show.

Yes. Because she's good in Louis and she's good in various other things. Probably the show Californication, I want to say, that she was in. I feel like she was probably in that, yes. So she plays Sam Fox, who's a divorced Hollywood actress with three daughters. And she leaves across the road from her mother. And that's really the premise of the show.

So it's really about her trying to juggle her three or two of them are teenagers and one is I'd say about eight or nine. Okay. It's juggling that idea of being a single mother with her ex-husband is really not involved at all and is kind of not a dropkick at all but just incredibly self-involved. Just a dream. Anyway, just not in his daughter's life.

I want to show about that guy just being happy on his own. Had this horrible dinner where he comes to her and says, I'm going to be in town for a little while and I wanted to talk about the summer. And she was like, great, how much do you want to take the girls? This will be awesome. They'll be so happy to know you're around the corner. He's like, oh, no, no, I'm here because I won't have any time because I'm working on this big project and I want you to tell the girls

that I won't be able to be involved in their lives while I'm here, even though I'm living around the corner. Anyway, and so he's that kind of guy. And it's kind of about her juggling that and her, you know, trying to meet someone and like her various dates and like sex life. And it's just so funny and heartbreaking. It does such a good job of leaving the scenes just hanging in this really funny way.

Pamela Adlin is so witty and fast-paced and she's just so, like, straight-talking as well. The relationship that she has with her mother and also with her kids is so beautiful and it's so, what is it, she just cares so much about her daughters and is so open with them, like completely open. Like she drinks and she's, you know, around a whole lot of her friends who are all artists and creatives as well. Judy Ray's is in that and she's from Scrubs.

She's the nurse, Carla. Oh, yes. Carla's in it, yeah. I'm just looking at the cast list. It's a really good cast. Yeah, it's an incredible cast. Her mother is played by. Let me check.

She's so good. Is it Celia Imrie? Is her name Phyllis? Yes. Yes. Correct. Yeah, and she's amazing too as this woman in her 70s who's just like really liberated.

But I just, I think it reminded me so much of the difficulties that we're going to face in parenting teenagers. Like holy moly, that is a land I don't even understand. And it's really interesting to see the way that Sam's character approaches it. Right, okay. And how she's so open and direct with her daughter's friends. Right, yeah. And she tells it like it is.

She talks to them about sex and about dating and about their bodies and she calls it out as she sees it and she's funny but also the way she kind of puts up with a lot of the things, particularly from her oldest daughter who's like incredibly dramatic and it just reminds me that's exactly how teenagers are, you know, eye-rolling and dramatic. I was just looking at her Wikipedia and so, yeah, she married a guy who they divorced in 2010.

They had three daughters and then he moved to Germany. And she has three daughters who are now like mid-20s or in their 20s. So, yeah. It mirrors her life. It seems that way, yeah. Yeah, well, because it does. It just feels so incredibly real and raw. Yeah.

And just, yeah, I loved it so much. And I just, the relationship that she has with him, I just, I think that's how you do it. That's how you get through teenage, the teenage years. It must be by being. I don't know. I don't know either. But by being like open things

and listening and wanting to be that person that like for instance there's a storyline where her 16-year-old daughter falls head over heels to this guy who's 35 and he's like very handsome and like smokes rollies and he saw her director play and just like she's fallen head over heels for him and her daughter is so headstrong and like instead of what you might do, which is like kick him out and then say he can't stay under my house and under my roof and this isn't appropriate.

And Sam's character decides to let it happen so that she can like let it be known that she doesn't approve but not in an aggressive way and just be there for it to play out. Right, okay. And she's not sure the entire episode if this is the right way to go and you can see her just staring at him. Is he into her as well? Yeah. Is that gross?

Yeah, it's gross. It's really gross. But he's very like he's quite, I don't know, charismatic and he's, I don't know, there's something about him you can see why she's drawn to him. Yeah, of course. He's one of those guys that like feels like he's an artist and he's rolling cigarettes and talking about life and, you know, poetry. And this is something you realise as you get older.

If you're like an older, and it's usually guys, not exclusively, but mostly, and, you know, you're looking to date, you know, somebody who's that young, you're fucking, you're broken. There's something wrong with you. Yeah, exactly. You're not right at all. Yeah. And, you know, you're looking to date, you know, somebody who's that young. You're fucking, you're broken. There's something wrong with you. Yeah, exactly. You're not right at all. Correct. You're not somebody, because you're not mature.

Because if you were mature, you wouldn't do that. Correct, exactly. And that's what's interesting to explore because her daughter who's 16, I can see myself in her in that she's initially super swept up by this guy who is so self-assured and creative and talks about her as if she's a goddess. And she's so, you know, naive in so many ways. And to be adored like that is like this amazing thing for someone to see you in that way. And you feel kind of powerful but also kind of it's dangerous.

And so you're seeing her feel like that and instead of, yeah, kicking her out or refusing to have him in the house and it becoming this thing where she might lose her because she's so scared she's going to lose her daughter to this guy. Because is that technically legal? Yeah. Depending on the state, I guess. Yeah, depending on the state.

So instead she lets it happen and then there's this beautiful turn at the end of the episode where her daughter realises he's way too much for her. She's got so far in over her head. She can't cope. She doesn't know what to do. And so Pamela Adlon's character tells him, like basically breaks up with him for her daughter and says, beat it, mate, get out of here.

And he's like, what do you mean I have to talk to her? And she's like, you're not coming anywhere near my daughter. You fucking piss off. And it's this like amazing moment where you realise like someone might see that from the outside and judge her and there are friends in her life who are kind of judging her for letting it happen. But it's genius because she's trusted her daughter to find that out for herself and immediately be the person,

because she hasn't shut her out, that when she gets into trouble and gets in over her head, she's there. Yep, gotcha. And she does it in this really angry, annoyed way. Like you want me to go out and talk to him, but the fact, you know, and that is the crux I think of what I'm taking from the show, that maybe you do have to, you're going to find yourself in these really challenging situations when you're parenting teenagers.

I have no idea. But like, what calls do you make? How do you make them? But at the end of the day, you just always want to be that parent that is sticking around. I don't think I could do that. I think I'd just shut it down. Like, I'd just be like, hey, I don't know. Maybe that's the wrong thing to do, but I just don't think I could have that level of restraint. Well, no, right. And as a guy,

and yeah, look, I agree with you. That's my feeling. That was my feeling the entire episode until the end. And I guess it's a lot of trust. But then it depends on your kid, right? Yeah. Because with certain things that I'm sure this is a boyfriend, but maybe it's something else. Like if they're determined to do something and you shut it down, they'll find another way to do it. Yeah, yeah. So how the fuck do you? How are we going to handle it, Dave?

I don't know. I'll be gone by then. I'll be living in Germany. So it'll be fine. Okay, cool. Anyways, I have to move it along because I have to go see Top Gun Maverick. You do. So anyway, I totally recommend watching Pamela Adlin's Better Things.

So good. Now I have one more thing to do. But you have one more thing to do, I assume. Oh, cool. How about I do mine and then we can head towards the end of the show. And then we can wrap it up, mate, because you've got to see Top Gun. Yeah, I feel like I had more time to talk about these things, but something happened up top.

I don't know. It's just this like blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. You know what I mean? Yeah. Look, I just had to. No. Don't. No, no, no. It's just this like blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. You know what I mean? Yeah. I just had to. No. Don't. It's so exciting.

I can't even talk. Just talk. It's great. It's really good. Anyway, I watched a movie called Escape from Pretoria from 2020. It's directed by Francis Anon and it stars, among others, Daniel Weber and one Daniel Radcliffe. So it's about two white South Africans in 1979 imprisoned

for anti-apartheid activity. So then they're determined to escape from the notorious prison Pretoria, right? So basically it's an era in South Africa of extreme political tension, racism, and they are arrested for distributing leaflets, but they do it in a way where they're like these mini controlled explosives so they're like the leaflets go off and, you know, it's all anti-apartheid stuff. So they're put in this prison as political prisoners.

And from there, it's a true story, by the way, about these guys, and from there they're given something like an eight-year and 12-year sentences each. But they want to get out and it's really one of those prisons that's, you know, like all prisons it's incredibly difficult to escape. So it becomes both a survival and a prison break movie. So it's based on what these people actually did and it involves making wooden keys and kind of going

and there's so many levels they have to kind of get through. So they're using wooden keys, you unlock a door and it's there's so many levels they have to kind of get through so they're using wooden keys you unlock a door get to the next door figure out what kind of key that is make a key using on that and etc and so forth and on top of that you know you gotta there's a bunch of sneaking out and also making clothing and you know planning planning out what you're going to do once you're on the outside how do you make the guards believe that you're still in you know in your room the entire time? So, look, I love prison break movies. I'm a sucker for prison break movies. And this is a really good one and it's also made more interesting

because these guys were real people that did exist in this and this actually happened. I thought it was terrific. So, yeah, I think it's on Netflix. That's where I watched it. It's well worth a look. If you like, I don't know, like Shawshank. I do love Shawshank.

I mean, so does everyone. I mean, yeah, it's like everybody's favourite movie. Remember that's like standard favourite movie. Yeah, what's your favourite movie? Fight Club and Shawshank. But you know what? They're both good movies. They are.

They are good movies. And what's this show called again? It's a movie. It's called Escape from Pretoria. So I think you might really enjoy it. Do you like prison break movies? Do you like Daniel Radcliffe? Yes, I do like Daniel Radcliffe. I've met Daniel Radcliffe. You've you might really enjoy it. Do you like prison break movies? Do you like Daniel Radcliffe? Yes, I do like Daniel Radcliffe. I've met Daniel Radcliffe.

You've met Daniel Radcliffe. He seemed like a lovely, jolly person who fell over. I told this story already on the podcast. It's okay. He fell over while I was talking to him. He's still there. Nobody helped him. He's still in that ditch that he fell in. He's very like a short-statured man. A short king, if you will. I think they were hoping that he would have grown bigger

in the role of Harry Potter, but he did not. If you watch those movies, everybody's like a foot tall. Ron's so tall. I know, I love it. Anyway, so funny. All right, that sounds great. Yeah, it's really cool. I'm going to check that out.

You should. It's really cool. I even quite enjoyed the first season of Prison Break, the TV show. I enjoyed the first season of Prison Break as well. And then he must have been like, man, I did all these tattoos. I can't believe them. Then they had to escape from a second – no, second season was on the run.

Yeah. Third season was a different prison. Yeah, no good. No good. I lost it by then. I liked Bruising Break a lot. Yeah. And it kept going.

I think there was a – his girlfriend went into prison as well. I don't know. It lost me by that point. And then there was a telly movie or maybe a series like that. I do quite enjoy a TV show set in a prison. Orange is the New Black. Brilliant. It was.

It's a good one. I think it's kind of fell apart though, didn't it? Oh, yeah, completely. I haven't watched it in years. But the first few seasons, loved it. There's a Stallone prison break movie from 1989 called Lock Up, which I love. I think it's terrific.

It's probably stupid. But I've always really, really liked that movie. The tracks really that you'd like it if it was stupid. No, I'm joking. That's mean. Well, it's on Stan. I could watch it right now. I can't.

I have to watch the movie Top Gun Loser. Top Gun Loser. Do we get letters for this show? We certainly do. You can write in to suggestapod at gmail.com with your suggestables if you so choose or just a comment, whatever. Tell us that you liked it. I don't know.

What have you. And just like Natalie Cameron has, thank you so much, whatever. Tell us that you liked it. I don't know. What have you? And just like Natalie Cameron has, thank you so much, Natalie. Hey, Claire and James. Hey. I've only been listening to the podcast for a couple of months, but I just wanted to thank you for not being afraid to talk about political, read as not white and straight, media. Well, this seems like you've absolutely brought this in to make me look like a fool, Claire. And social issues. Always. As a recently out trans girl, it's massively reassuring that people with a large audience

are helping change people's minds on these issues and helping them become more tolerant. It's helped me become more comfortable with myself and recommending the podcast to friends and family seems to be slowly opening their minds. Very good. Just wait till we pivot into a men's rights activist and pick-up artist podcast. My whole head just exploded. Gosh.

Sorry for the slightly ranty nature of this email. It wasn't ranty at all. I ranted for 10 minutes at the beginning of this show. No, Claire, it wasn't. It was a celebration. And I hope you both have a wonderful day. It was. Thanks, Natalie.

She, her pronouns. So, P.S., please tell James that we all know glass isn't frozen air. Oh, I know that. I keep saying that. We were doing our Moon Knight recaps and I kept emphasising that some people there is a theory that glass is actually frozen air when it turns out that that is actually not the case. Glass is not frozen air.

It's sand, isn't it? Yeah, exactly. It's melted sand. It's a very specific way of making it, and I kept on emphasising that fact, but some people just, I don't know, I think they just think that that's, you know, that it is frozen air and I just think that's ridiculous. It's just the thing I kept saying and it's been, apparently it's been popping up in places.

So this came up on, I don't know, I think this is on Reddit. Somebody posted this on the Weekly Planet Reddit, where glass is made of three options, melted sand, frozen air, or recycled glass. And there's a couple of comments underneath that says, this is the second time I've seen somebody reference glass as being frozen air. I can't accept that there are people out there that stupid.

Another person says, there can't be people who actually believe that. Like why would glass not always be cold and why would it stay solid above minus 361 degrees Fahrenheit or whatever? So that's fun. That that's getting out there. I feel like it's because it's just for a tiny second you're like, is it? No, but that's why I'm out there telling people that it is absolutely not. All right.

So, yes, and thank you, Natalie, for writing in. Over to you. We've got a review and you can do this just like Richard Johnson TX has put in. He says, maybe we all learn something too. This is a fantastic podcast with two wonderful human beings who are married, but maybe we learn something about love and marriage and communication and parenting. Maybe we learn something about being better people and make life a little more enjoyable.

Maybe we all learn we need to slow down and smell the roses once in a while and quit working for the weekend. Maybe we learn something about poetry and cooking. Maybe we learn something about society and the world. Claire. Hey. So there you go. Oh, there you go.

That's so lovely. You can actually just review this in-app. It's as easy as that. It's crazy how you can do that. Five stars, please. Oh, there you go. That's so lovely. You can actually just review this in-app. It's as easy as that. It's crazy how you can do that. Five stars, please. Yum, yum. Just on that, before you have to go to your movie, our son said the best thing to me the other day.

He was just like, Mum, I really have decided I don't like the person that organised two-day weekend, five-day week. Yes. It doesn't work. It's really stupid and I need to meet this guy and give him a piece of my mind. Absolutely. And I'm with you work. It's really stupid. And I need to meet this guy and give him a piece of my mind. Absolutely. And I'm with you, mate. You're right. And also like, because it was, you know, I think it was, was it one day off initially for church? Wasn't it a day of like,

yeah, you can go to church. Yeah. Cool, man. Thanks for the one day off. I can sit in a room and a guy's like, God's going to get you. That's really good. But it should be at least four days, three days, you know? I agree. At least. At least you would think. If not opposite. If not two days work, five days. Correctamundo.

Weekend. Yes. Ridiculous. Totally. Universal basic income, Claire. Okay. Over there. More holidays, more weekends.

Socialist Clement. That's your middle name. Well, maybe I am. But what? People don't want More time off Ridiculous Rise and grind

Pfft Terrible Anyways If you have any suggestions For suggestible We can email them through Yes And as always

Thank you to the wonderful Royal Collings For editing this week's episode And also To Maisie For doing our socials At suggestible pod On Instagram

And Twitter I think as well. I should know that. Incredible. I know it's Suggestible Pod. And I also do another podcast called Tons that comes out. Yeah, who are you interviewing this week? It comes out every Friday now. I've changed the day because Mondays was getting very stressful.

Mondays is hard. Yeah, it was real. I regret doing Mondays. Yeah, it was just way too hard. So it's coming out every Friday. And this week I have got an interview with the wonderful Maggie Zhao, who is a writer and producer and Instagrammer and her boyfriend, Tom, listens to the show.

Does he really? Yeah, I didn't tell you. He came up to you at the Doctor Strange premiere and had a chat. Oh, wow, really? I know. Oh, that's awesome. So cool. So Maggie's excellent and I can't wait to share that with you guys on Friday.

That's terrific. Yeah, she does a lot of stuff in the sustainable fashion space. Yeah, she's friends with your sister, yeah, or knows your sister? She totally is. That's how I met her. Me and her mum were the two people taking photos while my sister and Maggie were on a panel around all these like very important fashion people. Oh, that's nice.

And we were like, check out our people up there. It was really nice. So we had a great time. I love that. She's. It was really nice. So we had a great time. I love that. And she's so lovely and really interesting. And what's really cool is that she is Chinese background and she said that Turning Red, that animation, was basically her childhood in so many ways.

Love Turning Red. You watched it, didn't you? Yeah, yeah, and because she's a massive fangirl over One Direction. That was kind of how she started as a 13-year-old girl, just hardcore loving it and her parents didn't know that she was on Twitter and starting blogs and doing all this stuff online just like in Turning Red and it just, yeah, amazing. So it was such a beautiful conversation about all of that.

And that's it. Yeah, that is. Terrific. Till next week. Look forward to that coming out. See you guys next to tomorrow. To tomorrow. To tomorrow. To tomorrow. To tomorrow. To tomorrow. To tomorrow. To tomorrow. To tomorrow. To tomorrow. To tomorrow. To tomorrow. To tomorrow. To tomorrow. To tomorrow. To tomorrow. To tomorrow. To tomorrow. Terrific. Till next week. Look forward to that coming out. See you guys next to tomorrow. To tomorrow. Introducing Uber Teen Accounts,

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