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Episode Date: August 29, 2019

Suggestible things to watch, read and listen to hosted by James Clement @mrsundaymovies and Claire Tonti @clairetonti.This week's Suggestibles:Gaming HistorianStory of Super Mario Bros 2Story of TetrisThe UpsideOur Reporting Generates Change for the BetterDONATE TO OUR CHARITY CAMPAIGN HERE PLEASEParasiteLizzo at the VMA'sThe ManWorld War ZGirl in Space PodcastFollow the show on Instagram and Twitter @suggestiblepod or visit www.planetbroadcasting.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Uber Teen Accounts. Invite your teen to join your Uber account today. Available in select locations. See app for details. I hate this time of night, James. It's Suggestible Pod. I'm Claire. What's this show about?

Get it up here. Can I just say, we did a previous intro to this, and you're like, no good. You know what I want to do? I want to start it by saying I hate something, something. I've forgotten what you've said already, but you've started negative and I don't like it, Claire. And I'm all about saving the environment.

That's what I'm all about. I literally bang on about the environment to you every day of the goddamn week. I am currently building a chicken coop in our backyard and have all these vegetable beds and our fundraiser is raising funds, which is also my idea. That is boring. Anyway, we are Suggestible Pod.

We suggest things to you to read, watch and listen to. And James, on this show, I suggest that it is gentlemen's first. Claire, do you like video games? Good, you're going to love this. Do you like the history of video games? No. But do you love? I like Zelda, as previously discussed.

Claire, nobody cares about Zelda. Ocarina of Time. Loo-la-loo, loo-la-loo, loo-la-loo, loo-loo, loo-loo-loo, loo-loo-loo. How long are you going to let me go? I thought you were going to cut in. Why would I? I was so entranced. I was just caught up. Loo-la-loo. It's the Ocarina of Time.

I've never played it. Did you never know? Yes, you have. No, I haven haven't You get to gallop on a horse I know what it is And it makes realistic horse sounds That is the entire experience of Zelda Sounds really good I'm never going to play it Because that controller is also terrible

The Nintendo 64 Oh right Okay anyway You were telling me about the history of video games The first The first thing Fake ya, the first thing. Fake yawn. The first thing.

Or was it? Wish I had a bloody ocarina, so I'm bloody getting out of here. I'll tell you that much. Hey, just before you go on with your crap thing, what in the kitchen, what was that joke that you said to me before and I really fell hook, line and sinker for it? I said, what did I say? I said I wanted to start a wine collection

and there was a particular brand of wine that I was interested in. And I was really surprised because you never suggest anything and I was like, yeah, we can incorporate a wine rack into our home. And you said, what's the label? And I said, it's called Chateau de Floor. And I still didn't get it until you looked at me and went, Chateau de Floor. And I still didn't get it until you looked at me and went, Chateau de Floor. It's not my joke.

I stole it from the 12th man. But anyway, it's neither here nor there. This guy, he's got a YouTube channel. It's called The Gaming Historian. His name is Norman Caruso. He's based in the US, I believe. But basically, you know a lot of people do video games on YouTube. I'm sure you're aware of that.

They're a bloody dime a dozen. There's a lot of people going like, remember Super Mario Brothers? Did you know he was originally called Jumpman? And before Princess Peach, there was Princess bloody the other one. Oh, is this Mario Kart? It's whatever. So basically what this guy does. Because I like Mario Kart.

That's the other one I like. Yoshi! I love it. That's the whole of Mario Kart. That's the other one I like. You've got to like Mario Kart, Claire. You're not unique. Yoshi! I love it. That's the whole of Mario Kart. What was that? That was Mario Kart. I don't know what. Nobody yells that.

They were like those little mushrooms that shoot and like explode people. Great. Well, listen, we all like Mario Kart. Again, it's not unique. Zelda Mario Kart, two of the most popular Nintendo franchises. But this guy, what he does, he releases one video maybe every two months, and he does heavily researched, really well edited stuff that you won't just find on Wikipedia like maybe I would do for a video sometimes.

But he does these fascinating short documentaries about the history of gaming. Some of his more popular videos are the story of super mario brothers 2 so i don't know if you know this the version of super mario brothers that we got uh in in the west i should say is actually a different game that they relabeled they japan in japan they had a proper version of super mario 2 but it was deemed too hard for the west so they switched it so it's the story behind this game that they basically skinned to make it look like a Mario game. They dumbed it down for us. I wouldn't say it's dumber, but it's way different.

Like you don't jump on bad guys to kill them. You can't. You jump on them and then you just kind of ride on them and then you've got to throw them. It's a completely mechanically. You ride on them? Yeah, mechanically it's a completely different game. Like piggybacking.

Like piggybacking, yes. I love piggybacking. So I think that's his most popular video. He does a really good one on Tetris, the history of Tetris. Oh, I love Tetris. Bloop, bloop, bloop, bloop. It's not the music of Tetris. Bloop, bloop, bloop, bloop. Everyone knows it. That's it. That's not the music of Tetris, Claire.

I guess it is. Bloop, bloop, bloop. I don't think you've listened. Tetris is a... Let me do it again. Bloop, bloop, bloop. This sound, what are you... I'm doing the blocks falling. What are you, the scared weird little guys, or what are those comedy guys where one of them does the sound effects? I'm singing tonight, I'm doing the blocks falling. What are you, the scared weird little guys? Or what are those comedy guys where one of them does the sound effects? I'm singing tonight. I'm singing all day.

I'll sing all day every day. Anyway, tell me about, I love Tetris. Well, Tetris has got a really fascinating history. It's actually a Russian game and it might be the most popular game of all time. It's been replicated and duplicated and the creator of it, there was like didn't get, I don't know i'm sure not sure where it stands now but he didn't get any money for it initially because it was it was made in the in the 80s in russia so as you know it's communist russia and and and and things like that he has one on the power glove you're familiar with the power

glove it's like this nintendo thing from like the late 80s early 90s it's a glove that you wear to play video games but it works like absolute shit. But everybody was obsessed with this thing. He's also got really fascinating different videos on Sega or Sega, as most people, normal people say. We say Sega here, don't we, Claire? Just to clarify. But they've got a string of failed consoles from the 90s,

which ended in them not producing any. They don't make consoles anymore. They make games for Nintendo pretty much and some other companies, which was their main rival. Anyway, if you like anything about video games, anything at all, small, be it large, this is a really great YouTube channel that I've been watching for a long time and I think people should check it out. The Gaming Historian.

The Gaming Historian. Now, why don't you suggest a thing and I'll make stupid fucking sound effects all the way through it. How about that, Claire? You won't because my thing I chose specifically for you. And you might not actually use it, I know, but it's for you. Because I've been worried about, we were talking about just before around the old dinner table about like the low level anxiety that climate crisis is causing everybody.

I like it. It gives me strength and purpose. It drives you on. Someone on Twitter asked about your fitness routine. Does your low-level anxiety fuel your fitness routine? May just. It could very well. Yeah, that's why you do so many burpees.

Maybe I'll talk about it in another week, my amazing fitness routine. Look, all you need to do is work out six times a week for a minimum of 45 minutes each time. 45 secs. 45 secs. 45 secs. And also have the time to do it just during the day while everyone else actually goes to work and has a good job. Smuggy McSmugs.

I'm not being smug. I'm saying it's not fun and I don't like it. No, you hate it. You do, but you also love it. Well, I love cardio. Anyway, we will talk about that on another day. However, what I suggested for you, and if you, listener, are out there also feeling low-level anxiety for the state of the planet for lots of

reasons, including things happening in America and all the things, the Amazon rainforest is burning, dear God. The climate change here is just not being addressed at all. No. So actually, other than these recommendations that I'm about to give you, you can also donate to our charity campaign when we're growing seaweed. That's what I was trying to say up top and you said no time. Let's talk about the gaming historian. Well, that's because. Which is important. Don't get me wrong.

Bloop, bloop, bloop, bloop, bloop. I'm just going to start singing that. It should be our theme song. Bloop, bloop, bloop, bloop, bloop. What is that though? I don't actually know, but it's fun. It's just popped into my head. I'm a genius.

It's bad. I am a musical genius. So if you've got that low hum of anxiety and feeling really down about the planet, I think part of it also, other than the fact that obviously things are terrible, our news cycle and what we look at is often so negative. And there's actually not just an entire population of people all over the world just doing terrible things all of the time. There's so many good things.

And so The Guardian, do you know The Guardian, the news website? It's a superhero, The Guardian. Well, no, it's a news site. Anyway, they do some really incredible journalism. They're fantastic. And they have got a whole section on their site called The Upside. Oh, you're so annoying. Shut up and let me talk.

So anyway, on The Upside are just stories that are really optimistic journalism, just really fantastic and uplifting, but not in a really like corny way, just in a really regular people doing incredibly wonderful, kind things. And to kind of launch you into it, I would recommend looking up Our Reporting Generates Change for the Better by Mark Rice Oxley. And he just talks about how in reporting all the wonderful things that are happening around the world, like for instance, there's a group of pioneering Yazidi women in Syria who've created a safe space that's female only for women to come together and share and talk in Syria

where everything is really difficult. Sounds like PC gone mad. Anyway, and once they reported on that, lots of listeners then asked where they could get in touch with this particular group and donate money and funds and whatever else and their support. And so that's something that's been happening there. For instance, they started reporting about repair culture

and how there was a cafe in Edinburgh where you could go and get your appliances repaired while you had a coffee. Because I reported on that, it started and sprouted a whole lot of franchises all around the world. So instead of people like just going like, my pods machine doesn't work. Let me buy a new one. Yeah, they like take, you take your appliance.

Well, everything's very disposable, isn't it? I mean, I know your sister, for example, is really into like sustainable fashion yeah correct and spending money on like things but investing in them to then have them repaired and keep repairing them and that's part of the problem that even if people spend a lot of money on something there isn't always people to actually have the knowledge and skill to repair them yeah you know how when our parents bought a washing machine, say, like 50 years ago, it was built to last. I think your mum still has the same vacuum cleaner from like the 1950s. I hate that vacuum cleaner.

Yeah, I know, but she's had it for that long. It doesn't even work. All right. But anyway, she's had it for a long, long time because back then they were made to last. But then all of these sort of like bigger, better corporations realised that if they only had a three to four-year lifespan, they could keep reselling them.

That's why white goods is a huge problem. It's the same with like, do you know they put like expiry dates on pillows just to sell more pillows? Because once you've got a pillow and then they're like, well, you need it because they get replaced by bedbugs or whatever, which is not true. It's just a pillow. Well, yeah, exactly.

I did hear a really funny story about a pillow comedian. A pillow comedian? You know how you retell a comedian story and it's always terrible but when they said it was really funny. Well, I'm waiting. Let's see if that's true. All right. Well, basically she likened a pillow to an ex-boyfriend.

So when you look at the pillow and it's got the pillowcase on, it just looks lovely and clean and wonderful but you take the pillowcase off and then you can't believe you ever slept on it because it's like gross and stale and disgusting. And she's like, that's how it feels looking at your next boyfriend. Like you can't believe you ever slept with that person. Anyway, side note. So where are we going? Oh, yes, repair culture.

So they did a whole article on that and that has spawned cafes doing the same kind of thing and people starting to do more work around a circular economy so repairing things taking them back to be recycled actually recycled because often recycling like in Australia we have a huge problem with recycling because actually what our where our recycling was going was Malaysia and overseas so rather than actually genuinely recycling it like what we thought was happening when we were kids and they were saying, reduce, reuse, recycle, it was just going overseas and getting dumped somewhere else. I have a slightly smaller kind of story relating to something like that,

if you don't mind, Claire. Oh, here he goes. I'll let you mansplaining into it. I will. When I was a teacher, you know, you do the recycle bin, you make sure the kids put the paper in the bin. And anyway, this is like eight, nine years ago, whatever, I was in my classroom.

It was the end of the day. The cleaner came in, Brian, great bloke, comes in, have a chat. He picks up the recycle bin, empties it into the regular bin and then goes to leave. And I'm like, Brian, what the fuck? And he's like, oh, yeah, we don't recycle. It's just a fudge. It's like our recycle bin's too small.

Like we can't recycle everything. Oh, my God. And because schools generate so much paper waste. Yes. Less so now. Yeah. But at the time when we were teaching, I remember that our school, it just seemed so disposable.

God. And that's the thing. That's basically what's been happening. Anyway, I murdered him and his fertilizer because I'm like, now you're bloody helping the environment, Brian. Thank God you saved our whole segment. You're bloody worm food, Brian. Actually, that's a really good point.

Did I tell you that when I die I want to be made into a pod that will grow a tree? Yeah, I'll tell you what. I'm just going to do whatever the easiest thing is. So you plan whatever you want, but I'll take care of it. No, but that's the most carbon neutral way because if you burn me, then all the emission goes into the atmosphere. Where does the tree go?

Do we put it in the backyard? I don't want a dead body in a barrel in my backyard. No, you can go and put it in a cemetery or something. And you know what? The tree will die and people will forget. Just walk into the bush and dig a hole and put me in there and plant a tree on top. Just take a woman in a barrel out to the bush and get caught. Or conversely, I plant it in my backyard.

The tree dies because it will because I won't look after it properly. And then in 10 years' time, the police will be like, we found a body in a barrel in the backyard. I'm like, I swear to God. Why is it in a barrel? You just put me in the ground. It's worm food. I'm not putting you in the ground.

You're not a dog. Okay, here's the thing. All I'm telling you is if you Googled, if I died, Touchwood, if you Google tree pod funeral, you will find all of these resources on how to put me in a pod. Son, come outside and sit under this tree, which has absorbed the life force of your mother. And we can sit under this spooky tree.

No, what is it? I've carved your mother's face into it. No, if you don't do that, I'll come and haunt you. I prefer that. Bloop, bloop, bloop, bloop, bloop in your sleep. Fine, I'll do it. Okay, so fun to say that in bounds. Introducing Uber Teen Accounts,

an Uber account for your teen with enhanced safety features. Your teen can request a ride with top-rated drivers and you can track every trip on the live map in the Uber app. Uber Teen Accounts. Invite your teen to join your Uber account today. Available in select locations. See app for details. Anyway, so going back to The Guardian, The Upside, it's awesome. There's another great article that just came out today that I read this morning called The Kindest Thing I Ever Saw. And it's just all of the things that readers have written in to say that they've done,

like little acts of kindness or little acts of kindness that they've seen someone else do. Like there was one about this man who went to visit his mother who had dementia in a nursing home and everyone was just sort of blankly sitting around the TV, not watching it. And then a woman, his mother couldn't remember anything really. She had no short to memory at all. So he left. No, the worst. Anyway,

the person sitting next to her just started to cry, just tears streaming down her face. And the guy who was visiting his mom just didn't know what to do and was kind of internally panicking. And his mom just took her hand and put it on top of the woman who was crying and just smiled at her and sat there with her. And there was just this moment of, you know, I don't even know where I am, I don't know who I am, but I can see you're in pain and I'll hold this space with you. And I think that's what you want when people are upset, when you're hurting.

You don't want someone to try and fix it or anything. You just want someone to be there with you. Did you see there was a program on the other night on the ABC, I missed it, but it was trending on Twitter where they were sending kids into nursing homes with baseball bats. Yeah, four-year-olds. No. Just to really rile them up.

Just because most people, not most people, a lot of – my mum used to do this visit, people in nursing homes. They just don't – people just don't visit. Like people can be there for like 10 years and no one will visit. It's that kind of situation. Yeah, and I think there's something so beautiful about, A, that show looks amazing, sort of combining kindergartens with nursing homes.

But, yeah, just the idea of sharing small moments of human beings doing great things. Yeah. And things that we can do. Because what the Guardian also said, and Mark was saying. The Guardian, the DC superhero. You're the worst. Anyway, what he was saying was because they shared these stories,

people then started being inspired to do more of that kind of thing. Like, I don't know, look out their window and see someone struggling with their shopping and help them up the street or stop in and check on a neighbour and make sure they're okay or bring some soup to a sick friend. You know, all the tiny little things or, you know, if someone's lost a wallet or something, trying to help them find it, all that kind of small stuff that actually makes the world go round. So the world is not as terrible.

I completely agree. Speaking of, we've got a charity campaign. As the Amazon is burning down, we're trying to grow a seaweed farm. It's a race is on. Who's going to win first? But basically, look, there's a charity campaign that costs all the planet broadcasting shows and the seaweed farm is going to hopefully reduce CO2 emissions. You can also use it as a food source for animals and people and things like that.

It grows half a metre a day. Is that the idea? It does, yes. So seaweed is the fastest growing organism on the planet. Does it grow faster than an Amazon rainforest burns down, though? Oh, who knows? Well, hopefully we're aiming to raise $50,000 and Intrepid Foundation will match every dollar

so we could potentially raise $100,000. And this is the first kelp forest of its kind. It's in partnership with the University of Tasmania. It's featured in the film we talked about, 2040, which is also a great film to watch if you're feeling. Runs from Australia to the US as well. Yeah, well, the one we're growing will just be one. So it won't run all the way to the US or Australia.

But it's a start. And if it does work, it's a way of reducing carbon emissions that has no invested interest. So we're not taking jobs away from anyone or, and you know, there's sort of no big business corporates involved. So for me, just quickly, it was, just quickly, we were looking for something and you found this project, but it's overwhelming the things of like what's a specific thing that I could do to give back for. I think this is a really good project that we believe in

and we hope is real and not some kind of giant scam. No, it is real. It's in partnership with the Intrepren Foundation, the Film 2040 and also the University of giant scam. No, it is real. It's in partnership with the Interim Foundation, the Film 2040 and also the University of Tasmania. So, yeah, we'll put the link. As always, Collings will do that for us in the show notes. And go read The Upside from The Guardian and start with the kindest thing I ever saw or our reporting generates

change for the better. All right, enough of my positivity. What boring, depressing thing have you got now? Funny you should say that, Claire. I watched a movie today called Parasite. Oh, Lord. Okay. Does it start with a graying, bearded man staring into his own shoes

and drinking whiskey? I wish. In a desert? Like all good movies, it doesn't start like that. No, this is actually a South Korean black comedy. It is subtitled. It's by Bong Joon-ho, who you might know as the director of The Host, which is a kind of, it's a monster kind of horror film from 2006.

No, I don't know it. Again, it's again a South Korean film. He did Okja. Okja. Oh, yeah, I saw that. The one about the genetically engineered pig hippopotamus thing. Yeah. I don't recommend.

Oh, I do recommend that movie, it's got Tilda Swinton. It does and Jake Gyllenhaal. What's her name? Tilda Swinton, yeah. He also did Snowpiercer about everyone's on a train. Oh, that's a brilliant film. So like all of his films. I'd recommend that.

There's elements of this is described as a black comedy or a dark comedy and there is elements of a lot of comedy in it, but it's also really dark, like darkly funny in places and just very dark. And look, there's the way it unravels. I'm not going to spoil because it's, it'd be,

I really want to go and this happens and this happens. And then this happens. It's great. Like, but basically there's one family living in poverty. They live kind of below ground, almost in the slums in South Korea. And there's another family, which is this amazing, beautifully architecturally designed house,

which is kind of, I mean, it's a metaphor, I'm sure, which is like up on a hill, like in the city, and it's about how these families' lives intertwine. It's called Parasite, so make of that whatever you will. But it starts with one of the sons tutoring from the poor family, tutoring someone from the rich, and it kind of goes from there. It highlights obscene wealth as opposed to extreme poverty and the scrappiness of somebody trying to build their way up. And it's almost like what people will do to kind of raise this. It's about our dogs just fighting a possum out the back she'll be fine probably

wondering what that was but that's possums actually sound like what do they say like like monsters anyway continue but the winner we we actually have to keep so if if the possum wins the possum sleeps inside that's the rule but uh yeah and there's this real contrast between like the beauty of like this beautiful clean clean, open space that they live in and with like the griminess of the other family. And there's almost like a smell to the movie almost. Like it's so visually interesting and distinct. And there is conversations in this movie about how people smell

and how certain things smell. And you can almost kind of smell that watching this movie. It's incredible. It's an incredible movie. It is playing in Melbourne at the moment. It hasn't got a US release. I believe, though, you can torrent it. It is available streaming in some places.

Not sure where exactly, but maybe check your local cinemas before you kind of delve into that. But look, if you like any of those films that I mentioned, I think you might really like this. And don't let the subtitles put you off because it's really quite incredible. Could I watch it or will I get depressed? Oh, I don't know about that, Claire. I don't know about that, Claire.

I'm looking after my heart and my head at the moment. Yeah, maybe not. Maybe you give this one a miss. But anybody who wants to feel terrible. It's not even that. It's definitely a mix. It's definitely like a, yeah, like Snowpiercer. It ends and you're like, is that good?

Is that good? I don't know. Does it stay with you? It's one of those movies that stays with you for a long time. And it's really, I haven't got any names in front of me, but they're really good performances. One of the leads in it is also the lead in From the Host from 2006, who's the father in this one.

All right. It's really good. Excellent. Thank you. That's a really cool recommendation. All right. I have got a recommendation for some music right. Okay. Excellent. Thank you. That's a really cool recommendation. All right. I have got a recommendation for some music again. Have you heard of Lizzo?

Lizzo? Have you heard of Lizzo? Lizzo. L-I-Z-Z-O. This woman is so freaking incredible. She just smashed it at the VMA Awards. And if you have not. I watched the VMAs.

Did you? No. It's the Video Music Awards. And if you have not. I watched the VMAs. Did you? No. It's the Video Music Awards. Anyway, you should totally Google her. She's so kick-ass. Her name is actually Melissa Vivian Jefferson. Good name. She was born in Detroit, Michigan, and she's 31 years old.

Born in 1988, I believe. Yeah, correct. She is sort of the orchestrator of frothy, effervescent pop, I would say. I consider myself the orchestrator of frothy effervescent pop, I would say. I consider myself the orchestrator of frothy effervescent pop. She was originally a rapper. She's known for being really funny and radiant. Her songs are about self-love and self-esteem.

She's an African-American woman who is just voluptuous and hilarious, strong and beautiful. Her vocal talent is spectacular. She talks a lot about how when she was younger she dieted and exercised and tried to really fit into a particular box. Yeah, right. So Lizzo wore a canary yellow sort of leotard jumpsuit with matching glittery eyeshadow. She had a giant voluptuous kind of butt in the background,

like a booty, like a big balloon on stage. She had all these beautifully voluptuous women of colour dancing as well behind her. And it's just so refreshing to see women's bodies that actually look like women's bodies, that you look at on stage and go, my body looks like that and it's not perfect, but it's kind of sexy and great. She said there was a point when she was younger where she was

over-exercising and dieting and trying to fit into a particular box that the music industry wanted her to fit into. So that's what people tell you as well and that's a lot of times the people you see, yeah. Correct. When she finally stepped into her own and just embraced herself for who she actually is, my God, her talent is spectacular. She plays a flute as well.

I also play. I do. And she called her flute Sasha Flute, which is a reference to Sasha Fierce, which is Beyonce's alter ego. And she just has this like hilarious thing on Instagram called Hoan Flute, which is like her kind of like booty shaking and playing the flute at the same time. And she rocks it out. It's just such an example of how if you do something with confidence

and you step right into it, you can be kick-ass and amazing and unique. And I think 2019 is that time where everyone is stepping out and realizing that difference is actually incredible and that we're allowed to be in charge of our own uniqueness. Difference is interesting. Yeah, and celebrated and diversity should be celebrated. So her third album, Because I Love You, just dropped in April to critical acclaim. She's also released, well, her first album was Lizzo Bangers in 2013,

which was kind of the beginning of it all. 2016, she did an empowerment anthem that I love called Coconut Oil, which is incredible. But at the VMAs, she performs Truth Hurts and Good As Hell, both of which are just frigging spectacular. So please do yourself a favour. Go and watch her performance at the VMAs. It's everywhere.

Collin's will link her below. And then just like head on over and listen to her albums. I've never heard of this person at all and that's one of those things that's going to explode or has exploded already. Yeah, it has already exploded but I think we're old and so sometimes we miss it. People are probably like, I love Lizzo. Lizzo's my favourite album. Queen Latifah gave her a standing ovation at the VMAs

and so many people have just said, I cannot begin to explain to you because you're like a fairly good looking white dude, right? You're very good looking, I would say. I'm married to you. Get out of here. But here is the thing. You are represented everywhere you look. Thank God.

As I should be. Everywhere you look on television, everywhere you look in leadership. And for your whole life, really, you've seen yourself reflected back, right? I very rarely see women that look like me. I know I'm a white woman, but I'm like not super skinny. I very rarely see women like me. You've got one arm. Well, I've got three missing teeth. You've got three missing teeth, yeah.

But I never really see that on screen. And to be seeing these, I'm going to cry, to be seeing these kind of powerful, engaged women being embraced, being powerful, having autonomy, having money, having success is just incredible. I cannot even begin to understand what it must be like to be a woman of color and be seeing role models like you on screen and in music and on stage because for so long I think society has asked women to be smaller and quieter. Yes. And we're starting to be allowed to be louder.

Like the time I was like, hey, Claire, you're shouting. Yeah, correct. Exactly. Bloody hell. Well, I apologise. Yeah, so you should, mate. So Lizzo, go check her out. She's fantastic.

I get at least one email that's like, James is a bloody cuck, mate. He backed out. Good. That's why I love you. I embrace it. My little soy boy. Sorry, that was awful. I totally sculled that out.

Colleen, you deserve to edit this whole thing. Anyway, that's it. We're at 28 minutes. Thank God. That was really good. I'm really glad that you took a lot from that and also recognize that other people would also have taken things from that also. Thank you, sir. I never think, the only time I think when diversity is a bad thing is when it's clearly like a,

me and Mason talk about this quite a bit, when they feel like they're forcing it into something just to kind of get a reaction out of people. But often even then if you've got – you can sometimes – a lot of the time you get good creatives behind it. Maybe they don't care about – maybe the people making it, financing it don't care about that, but the people who are writing these characters or directing these films or these music – Professions. – or whatever you want to call it, they do care.

So it's – you know, I think more often than not it's a very, very good thing. Who doesn't want to see more different bloody people in the world? Well, that's like we were talking, I've been watching more and more of Globe, got to the end of season three, and I won't talk too much about it because we've talked about it in previous season, but it just gets better and better. And one of the reasons it's so brilliant is the cast is so culturally diverse

and it all has kick-ass strong women of different sexualities as well. There's drag queens in there, there's a guy struggling with his homosexuality as well. Yeah, the episode was just brilliant, wasn't it? They were out in the canyon. And I think that however it happens, whether or not it's for a quota or to get a reaction out of people, just having people that don't just look the same and don't just come from the same backgrounds represented is only a good thing.

That's why I think quotas are important too because it just gets more voices in the room and then it gets more voices being heard. We don't end up in situations like we have now where people are just screaming at each other and the world's burning. Yeah, it's pretty good. So, you know, I think more diversity, more celebration, more positivity. All right, enough of my talk.

Let's do some things that people have sent in to us to recommend, James. Do you have those? Because I do not. I have got one. Dave Truong on Twitter suggested to me Taylor Swift's new album. It just dropped. It's amazing. But might I especially suggest giving track four titled The Man a listen.

I've cried at least twice listening to it. It's such a moving Time's Up anthem. And it is correct. I listen cried at least twice listening to it. It's such a moving Time's Up anthem. And it is correct. I listen to it too. Thanks, Dave. She has done some amazing stuff, the old Taylor Swift, and it's an excellent album. So thanks for that recommendation.

Yes, thank you, David, I say as I pad to find this website that has all the – my website that I usually go to for reviews. All right, well, I've got another one. Please do. John Lobato has one for Suggestible Pod. World War Z, the book. Forget the movie. Forget Brad Pitt.

This is seriously one of the best books I've ever read and I don't even like zombies. It's more like a documentary, I guess. It's like the book follows a narrative and I'm like a person as they go through on various zombie related adventures. I actually don't think it's that bad a film, but it's very different from the book. The book's almost like a scientific breakdown, like a report of what happened during the zombie apocalypse. So, yeah.

Awesome. Okay, and I've got one last one. Can I recommend for you and your listeners the work of Sarah Ria Werner, a sci-fi fiction podcast called Girls in Space Pod? And there's also one called Right Now Podcast, and it gives great creative advice. Thank you so much. Excellent. I've got a review here. It's from Itapthat from LasagnaLover420. Not too bad, not too shabby. If there's one thing I hate,

it's being suggested things, but the humorous banter simply keeps me enthralled all the way through all that suggesting BS. Anyway, I love the show. Grab the James. I'll grab that James. You stay away from me, all right? Any time of the day. All right, that's it from us. Hit us up on SuggestiblePod, at SuggestiblePod. Instagram and Twitter.

We would love to hear from you. You can email the show at contact at planetbroadcasting.com. Exactly. We would so love to hear. Thanks, Claire. Thanks for doing this podcast with me. You're welcome, James. Let's go to our separate rooms. We will never speak again. Good. Goodbye, Claire. Thanks for doing this podcast with me. You're welcome, James. Let's go to our separate rooms.

We will never speak again. Good. Goodbye, everyone. I'll just stop this recording. Bloop, bloop, bloop, bloop, bloop, bloop, bloop, bloop. Pressing stop? Bloop. I've stopped the podcast.

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