Suggestible - Cheers Your Boots Up

Episode Date: August 5, 2020

Suggestible things to watch, read and listen to. Hosted by James Clement @mrsundaymovies and Claire Tonti @clairetonti.This week’s Suggestibles:Moroccan Chicken and CouscousDark Knight: A True Batman StoryInto the Unknown: Making Frozen 2The Frozen 2 Episode of SuggestiblePriestdaddy: A Memoir by Patricia LockwoodInsane After Coronavirus by Patricia LockwoodMike Birbiglia: The New OneSome clothes, I guess?Send your recommendations to [e-mail], we’d love to hear them.You can also follow the show on Instagram, Twitter, Facebook @suggestiblepod and join our ‘Planet Broadcasting Great Mates OFFICIAL’ Facebook Group. So many things. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Could you in a... I did. It's like you're getting a foot massage. Yeah, I know. I wish I was getting a bloody foot massage. According to you from last week's episode, I have a foot fetish. Did I? To say that?

You did say that publicly in this podcast. Just because you say last week and I'm like, when was that? A million years ago? You don't know. Hello, everyone, and welcome to Suggestible Pods, the podcast where professionalism is of top priority. Professionalism runs rampant. What?

It is absolutely askew with professionalism. top priority. Professionalism runs rampant. It is absolutely askew with professionalism. You are the ramblings of a madman over there. That man who is rambling and saying words like askew that I don't think he actually knows the meaning of is my husband, James. My name is Claire and this show is a show where we recommend you things to watch, read and listen to. I recommend using askew in context that I might not fit in. Correct. What does askew mean? Don't patronize me, Claire. Why don't you tell me what it means? How about that? How about that? You just think I patronize you all of the time.

That's because you're smarter than me, Claire. No. Okay, listeners, I have to tell you something. Smarter than me, Claire. No. Okay, listeners, I have to tell you something. So when we were cooking dinner, well, James was cooking dinner yesterday. This is a tangent that is not normally in the podcast. I'm so sorry. No, it absolutely is.

This is par for the course. It's very askew of us. All right. So James is making my favorite recipe, Moroccan couscous chicken, that I make all the time. I recommended it on my Instagram account at Clirt Choddy because it's a one-plot wonder. Anyway, I walked in the time. I recommended it on my Instagram account at Clirt Choddy because it's a one pot wonder. Anyway, I walked in the kitchen and he was burning the chicken and looking very frazzled. I was not burning the chicken.

And I said in a lovely, kind way, let me just stir this because the chicken is ready. You need to turn the heat down. And then also you need to just cook the couscous in the actual pot because I'd made it before. Because it's one pot. Yeah. And then I tried to tell you about the history of Moroccan couscous. Yeah, okay. Which I found really interesting.

But here's the thing, right? And you just yelled at me. For anybody who has kids or anybody who's ever cooked dinner ever, it's like hectic. There's things going on. One kid like tugging on my sleeve being like, what are we doing tomorrow? And I'm like, oh, fucking no.

Just give me a goddamn second. No, I didn't swear. He didn't'm like, oh, fucking no. I'm just giving you a goddamn second. No, I didn't swear. No, I didn't. I didn't talk like that. And the other baby's like screaming in the other room and you're dealing with her. And then Claire's like, the chicken's burning, which, by the way, it wasn't.

It was under control. And then she's like, but you know the history of couscous? And I'm like, I could not think of a thing that I could give less of a fuck about than the history of couscous. And you're like, you don't even know what I'm going to say. And I'm like, you're going to say they put this couscous in and it absorbs all the water in a dish. Like I understand how couscous works and I do not care.

But you're cooking it with boiling water. Yes, because I thought the dish was the couscous was cooked separately. And this is why, dear listeners, I was helping him because I cook it all the time. But that part of the information, that part of the scenario is useful to me. But if you're like, do you know couscous dates? I don't know. I don't and I don't care.

But I'd already told you the strategy and then I thought, while I'm telling you it, I'll also tell you what I learned as I was cooking this particular recipe. Irrelevant. You could have told me literally any irrelevant piece of information then and it would have been just as important to me. It may or may not come to as a surprise to you that James does not like being told what to do.

I do not. On any level. Even if he does not know what he's doing. Also, that wasn't being told what to do. That was, again, that was irrelevant information. No, I was telling you not to burn the chicken and to just chuck the couscous in the pot. The thing about chicken is, Claire, the way I was cooking it, it was searing it.

It was right at the precipice of me flipping it over and putting all the water in so I could simmer down. I knew exactly what I was doing. All right. Okay, here's the other thing that you might find entertaining about James when he cooks. He gets so stressed and he can't do anything else other than cook. And if anyone asks him anything else while he's cooking,

I literally cook almost every night. No, that is not true for Juan. And he's always stressed. It's only stressful when you poke your nose in and you're like, what's going on? I'm like, get away from me. And you also take so long. I actually like it.

You take so long. But I take so long because I clean as I go. I'm like you. You're a hurricane. You upturn every pot in the kitchen. I'm a hurricane. You use every glass. Yes, I am a hurricane. You know why? And I'm sure some people on the podcast will relate to this. Why are we having an argument about cooking on the show?

Anyway, I'm sorry new listeners. It's not normally like this. Anyway, by the way, let me get back to this argument. The thing is most people will relate that, say, a toddler is hungry and when they're hungry about 5.30, if you don't feed them immediately, they turn into a tornado, a pillar of rage, a plethora of human emotions that turn into a screaming fist and a puddle of, you know,

miserableness on the floor and everyone's screaming. So when you need dinner, you need it done quickly. And so I am the master of making dinner as efficiently and quickly as I possibly can. Sometimes that means I use quite a few pots, but I can get dinner on the table in like 20 minutes. By the way, if James cooks, it's an event. Speaking of, I banged out that meal. And you can't talk to him while you're cooking. No.

Just stop interrupting. I can't. Well, this is what happens because you pop your head in and you're like, why are you doing it that way? And I'm like, do you want to take over? Do you want to do this? I enjoy cooking. I like it.

I've got headphones in. I've got headphones in. I'm having a good time. You're not. And it's when people come in and get in my zone, that's when it's stressful. And that is what I'm trying to tell you. Because I've got a whole balance and everything.

I know exactly where I am in every moment of it. And then having somebody go in and go, excuse me, do you know Couscous when it was first developed? Anyway, we should start what this show is actually about. We should start the actual show. However, all I'm saying is you don't like being interrupted when you're doing a thing. And our son is exactly the same.

Who likes being interrupted? Yeah, because I get interrupted literally every minute of the day. So do I. No, our son is exactly the same. This podcast is literally you interrupting me. Anyway. Okay, back to the show. We recommend you things and James is up first.

Recommend away. Oh, P.S., we are currently in extreme lockdown. Maybe that's why tensions are a little high. Just slightly high. Do you know something I read? We currently live in Melbourne for any listener who does not know in Australia. How am I going to see Tenet, Claire?

I know. Lockdown doesn't come up until September 13th. You said to me that you think you can apply to the government for a permit to go and see a movie. If I do it, you don't understand, Claire. I have to see this movie. And the other thing is if I do go and see it, I have to quarantine for two weeks

either side. So if I see this movie, I'm out for a month. You are not allowed to do that. That is your dream. Quarantine for a month in a hotel room on your own. You'll get all the things done and no one will interrupt you. No, but someone's going to come in and give me COVID, which is what's been

happening in this fucking country. Well, anyway. Anyway. Melbourne is apparently under currently the strictest lockdowns in the entire world, which I'm not complaining about because obviously it's a huge, you know, pandemic. It's really scary. There's a lot of things happening and it's really important

and we're very lucky to have a government that has been really proactive and trying to keep its citizens safe. However, we are living in the strictest lockdown ever. Yeah. Stage four, nightly curfews. Can't drive out of five kilometres of your home without like a note from the government. Yeah, we cannot leave the house between 8pm and 5am in the morning.

And Mason, your co-host for your other podcast, The Weekly Planet, that may or may not be more successful than this one, has to get a permit. Not may or may not. Just to be clear, it is infinitely more successful by a factor of five. At the moment, anyway, currently. Sure. Anyway, he has to get a permit in order to come to record the show.

Yes. Because for some reason it falls under, like, journalism. Is that what we do? Journalism in inverted commas. But also it's such a relief because the internet here is so terrible and everyone's at home. If we did it remotely, it would probably be a disaster. So now we sit like 15 feet apart from each other and record that way.

Totally. But it's just such a strange world we've found ourselves in, which currently might be why we've started this podcast with an argument. Maybe. Anyway. We're eight minutes in. You should get into it. Speaking of personal crises, I'm going to recommend a comic book, Claire.

It's called Dark Knight, A True Batman Story. And you might be like, what are you recommending Batman stories on this show about weird and nerdy things? I feel like that was possibly a movie. No. I mean, it was. And many things. This is more niche kind of.

It's more of an artisanal podcast, you know what I mean? So why would I recommend this comic book? Yada, yada, yada. Because it's by Paul Dini, who was one of the people who created Batman, the animated series. Who, Dini? No, his name is Paul Dini. I distinctly said Paul Dini.

Who, Dini? No, I didn't say that. With art by Eduardo Rizzi. And the reason it's true story is because Paul Dini, when he was an up-and-coming, he was working on this very successful show. Who? When he was an up-and-coming? This is the couscous thing all over again. He was working on that series in the 90s as a creative person.

Anyway, he's doing well, so he's working on this hugely successful show that is winning multiple awards and Emmys and that. He's dating this mid-level kind of vapid aspiring actress, and this is all the story in the comic book. And then on the walk home one night he's assaulted by two gentlemen and gets like severe – gentlemen, they weren't gentlemen. They were quite rough if I'm honest. Did they say, hello, governor?

No, no, it was in the US so they're using an American accent presumably unless they were British. I don't know. But they beat him like quite severely. Oh, that was't very nice. And they nearly kicked out like one of his knees. They were going to kick out one of his knees and likely he twisted at the last minute because he would have limped for the rest of his life.

So then as a result of this, he's got skull fractures and he's all ribs broken. I don't know the specifics of his injuries. But he's had a real bad time. He's had a real bad time of it. And he's all filled with like anger and regret and fear like most of all and kind of embarrassment this thing which could really happen to anybody i got hit with a broken bottle in an

alley once remember that i know i didn't know you there but that happened to me once i was fine it bounced off and then i ran like you've never seen anybody run before in their life but anyway that story that could have been the face imagine me in the face it would have fucked me up so much i know yeah anyway um i love that you turned and ran of course i did do you know no i turned and You hit me in the face. It would have fucked me up so bad. In your beautiful face. I know. Yeah, anyway. I love that you turned and ran. Of course I did. Do you know, no, I turned and ran at the point where, by the way, this fight was not my fault.

Okay, but I didn't say it was your fault. No, I know. But I know people are thinking, I bet you did it. But I didn't. And then the guy picked up the shards of glass after it, like, pinged off me. So that's why I was like, I don't want to get stabbed. You hightail it. You hightail it as fast as you can.

You scoot out of there. You scoot, scoot. Very lucky. You're boot scooting, baby. Gotta run from the broken bottle. Gotta run from the shard of glass that's going to stab in your guts. I didn't want to get stabbed. Anyway, so while he's kind of recovering and feeling sorry for himself

and drinking and painkillers. This is the Dark Knight comic. Well, it's called Dark Knight, A True Batman Story. What he does, what he envisions happening is kind of like the way that a Christmas carol. So he's imagining these characters from the comic books in this show, like visiting him, like the Joker will turn up and, like, mock him for, like, his cowardice.

And Batman will show up and be like, you know, if it was me, I would have bloody done this or that. He's like, well, yeah, but you're fictional and Batman and, you know, like 18 different, you know, karate's and whatever. And also he buys a gun to protect himself. Did you say karate? Karate, yes. That's how you say it.

It's karate. No, no, it's karate. That sounds like you're saying car with a ra-te. That's what I was saying. Anyway, he also purchases a gun as protection. They never find these guys, by the way. And then there's Batman because Batman's anti-guns. It's like guns are weapons of cowards and all this kind of thing.

I find this really boring. Yes, but what is interesting about this comic, and it is a good comic, is this is about a man overcoming this event through like therapy and fictional characters kind of dragging him out of this depression that he sunk into so this was like his brain like this was a coping mechanism and it's a newer book it's probably like maybe four or five years old maybe not even uh but it's about him kind of coming to terms with it and and like build himself up and coming out of it and prioritizing things in his life because he he was, he was kind of looking at like,

he was living this big Hollywood lifestyle. I've got a cool car and I got a great ride to the job. And I met Steven Spielberg and all these kinds of things and puts all these things into perspective for him. So yeah, anyway, I just thought I've never really spoken about it. I don't think at a length,

but it's well worth a, um, a watch. Listen, read. It's a book, comic book, read the words,

read the words and look at the pictures. I see. That sounds a book. Comic book. Read the words. It's a comic book. Read the words and look at the pictures. I see. That sounds interesting. Therapy, I believe in humongously. I think it's very important. You probably should have got therapy from the bottle incident that happened to you. No, no. I was all right.

If I'd have been hurt, I definitely would have. Yeah. So now I'd probably get caught. I wouldn't have made it out of the alley. You're a slowpoke. Yeah. No, you've been training. You're training for that exact reason, to run away from the dogs

during the apocalypse. There is a difference between someone who's my age and somebody who was 19 at the time or whatever. If you ever play like sport with somebody who's that age, there's a big difference. Like even if you're like you're fit, it's just a different level of fitness. Yeah, I know. We had a friend of our little person who lives in our house.

He's excellent. He's not a Smurf, by the way. We watched the Smurfs recently. He's not a Smurf. He's an actual human being that we created, which is also crazy. Well, that's what Smurfs were. They were a creation as well. Yeah, well, there you go, from Gargamel.

Anyway, I tried to explain Smurfs to our son and he was really bamboozled. And fair enough too. He asked me what Gargamel was and I said, an old man? He's a warlock. Oh, he's a warlock. Oh, I knew it. You know all the answers to movie correlated questions. I've never seen that.

Not Moroccan couscous, let me tell you. I know what I need to know about Moroccan couscous. Anyway, I can't remember why. Oh, yes, because his friend came round and his friend had mad basketball skills. It's crazy. They're like four years old and the skills on this kid were incredible. I didn't see you miss.

And it was like on a regular – anyway, it doesn't matter. Yeah, it was really impressive. We've got to press on. What have you got? We've got to press on. Ooh, all right. It's hockey season and you can get anything you need delivered with Uber Eats. Well, almost, almost anything.

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So cheer your boots up. Cheer your boots right up. Yeah, correct. So the first one is Into the Unknown, The Making of Frozen 2. Oh, yeah, I saw you watching that. And look, it's six episodes. It's on Disney Plus and it is just so wonderful. It's exactly what it says on the tin.

It's The Making of Frozen 2, but it's fascinating. It's a documentary that follows the director, writer and chief creative officer, Jennifer Lee, who is my new favourite person. I just think she's fantastic. She was a children's book author and then she came on board to write Frozen. The first Frozen or the second Frozen?

When they had no idea what they'd created and it was a runaway success and just became this iconic film with her co-director, Chris Buck, who's also an animator, and just the process of watching two people at the height of their kind of game, creating something so iconic, having to follow up is really fascinating. So there's, on the one hand, it's looking at the technical prowess and the skillset of the people at Disney. But for me, what was most fascinating was finding the voices of the characters. And Jennifer Lee did a lot in the writing process to kind of she actually started writing a journal from Elsa's perspective

to get back into the head of the characters and find her way through and just the enormous amount of pressure that was on them because obviously Disney has such incredible brand, you know, awareness, everyone adores them. There's so much pressure on Frozen 2. It was one of the, I would say, the most anticipated animated sequels, really. Ever? Do you think?

Well, in recent history. Sure. Do you think? Probably. For a certain contingent, I reckon. Yeah, yeah, definitely. No, I would say, yeah, probably in general. I mean, think about how iconic the songs in Frozen were.

I can't think of another one recently. No, and those songs are so now in the ether, like in our everyday language about, you know, let it go. And it's also, I think the music in the second one is probably as good, maybe some are even better. And the animation is obviously better because animation progresses. But the story is kind of bullshit. We won't have another argument.

We did have a massive argument about Frozen 2 on a previous episode that Colleen's will link below. We're not having an argument this time. This is purely about watching something that's uplifting and makes your heart soar and takes you back to a time pre-COVID. So it was before social distancing and everything. What I loved actually, they also follow the producer, Peter Delvejo, and how much he loves the show and how it came to be.

But the two people that I loved getting to know the most were the songwriters, Kristen Anderson Lopez and Robert Lopez. They're a married couple, James, a married couple who write and create all the songs for Frozen. And it's so incredible to watch two people who are just so clearly meant to work together. Must be nice. Yeah.

Oh, God. And, you know, at the height of their game and able to really capture the emotion of a moment and then the process of their songwriting matching up with the story that Jennifer Lee is writing is really fascinating. And the way they round table the ideas for the story and then come to them with this music is just mind-blowing. And they do it in this small studio.

And I think the gift that they bring in being able to create such emotional complexity and just pull at your heartstrings when you listen to Frozen, because they don't do the orchestral stuff. They do the lyrics and the, you know, kind of melody of the song. And she, Kristen Anderson Lopez, is really incredible at kind of singing the song through and understanding the characters' motivations. really incredible at kind of singing the song through and understanding the characters' motivations. And so they were really kind of connected in together as a couple because Robert Lopez then does the piano underneath and they kind of work together.

And watching them create Lost in the Woods, which is ostensibly one of my favourite songs, and they came to the producers and the writers with the idea that they wanted his song to be like one of those like 90s pop band, you know, kind of songs. It sounds like the Karate Kid theme, the love song from the Karate Kid. Yeah, it does. That's what it's called. Yeah, it's just so iconic.

When you see them in the documentary play that song for the first time to the group of writers and everyone's just laughing and just it's magic. So I just would totally recommend if you want to be kind of swept up. Swept away. Yes. Well, even if you hated Frozen 2 or you never saw it, just the mechanics of watching how they bring it to the screen is amazing. I love behind the scenes stuff.

And in the last probably five to ten years, that stuff has slowly dwindled away because as dvd sales have dropped off it used to be a big deal like you if you don't know if you've seen the lord of the rings special features yeah i have yeah amazing like that's like if you you could probably watch that instead of going to film school like it's that kind of level of yeah detail and so i've always found that stuff really fascinating and so it's like dvd extras that now you can get. I think it's such an interesting feature that Disney are doing.

They also did one for The Mandalorian as well. I think they did one for every episode maybe. Yeah, I just think it's fascinating. Yeah, it is so good. And they interview the cast of characters as well. So they interview Kristen Bell, Idina Menzel and Josh Gad as Olaf. Jonathan Groff. They do as Kristoff.

And he does all of his lines while he's in New York. Oh, really? And they do it in California. Yeah, so that's really fascinating. And to see him sing and find Lost in the Woods is really great and the process of that too. Because he didn't get to sing on the first one either, which is crazy.

No, and there's another story too that I didn't realise, but Chris Buck, who is the director, his son Ryder Buck. Ryder Buck. Ryder Buck. Ryder Buck. Don't make fun of it. Listen to what I'm about to say. This is going to be a tragic thing, isn't it? His name is Ryder.

Yes. So Ryder Buck got testicular cancer, stage four, came through it, and I think he was in his 20s. Yeah, right. And then got cleared of it and then six months later died in a car accident. Jesus. And it was just before Frozen won the Oscar. So when they get up there to collect their Oscar for Frozen,

they dedicate it to their guardian angel, Ryder. I don't know how people come back from something like that. Yeah, I know. I thought what's really interesting is, you know that song they sing about grief and about doing the next right thing? And who sings that? Anna. The character of Anna,. And who sings that? Anna, the character of Anna Kristen Bell sings that.

And it makes so much sense why they went to the depths of grief and the way that song is written I think really hits a chord about grief in a way that I've never seen in an animated feature before. I mean, I lost my dad maybe five, six years ago. Not maybe, I did. And just to be clear, he died. You didn't lose him. We looked behind the fridge.

He wasn't there. And watching that particular moment in Frozen 2, and I didn't know this, that Chris had lost his son, it just blew me away with how accurate the feeling that they've managed to capture in that moment is. And you watch Kristen Bell sing that moment and she's crying as she's singing. She says it took her to a really dark place of her own kind of battles

with mental health and depression and anxiety. Because she's only recently come out and spoken about that, hasn't she? Yeah, she has. And when you think about her, you see her as this kind of perfect person that would have this wonderful life and you just don't know what's going on for people. Yeah, you never do, do you? No.

Which is that thing about you always remind me, like, hey, be kind. That person might be terrible for a reason. I'm like, fine, fine. But is it so true? Yeah, it is. It absolutely is. Everyone's going through their own thing. And I think particularly now that's even more so the case in this pandemic.

Everyone has their own story about how things are being affected in different ways. Anyway, and I think that song really encapsulates just grief as a whole. And I think the pandemic has really brought grief as an emotion to the fore hugely. I feel like I'm constantly cycling through all those feelings of grief, you know, anger, depression, all of those things, and acceptance as well. You're kind of moving through all of those things as you go with it.

And I think acknowledging that because we are, we're all losing little things about our ordinary lives in different ways. And so that song is so beautifully done by Kristen Bell, sung by her, and that's beautifully done. But Kristen Anderson Lopez and Robert Lopez have just done such a brilliant job of writing that song and Chris Barking directing that song. So, yeah, anyway, the soundtrack, even if you don't see the movie,

the soundtrack itself is a beautiful one to listen to and really inspiring. And I loved that line, do the next right thing. And Oprah says that a lot too. You know I love an Oprah quote. When you can't do anything else, you just do the next right thing. You don't think about ten steps ahead or the future or how far things will go.

You just do what you can in the moment that feels like the next right thing and be kind. So anyway, I'll stop rambling on about Friends. I just loved it so much. And I just thought it was such an incredible feat. And also just they follow their technicians and animators as well. And often I didn't realize this in an animated feature. I'm talking about this way too much. Sorry, it's really boring. 25 minutes. Yeah, let's just wrap it up after this. That's all right. I didn't realise this. When they make an animated feature like this, they'll take,

it might only be maybe 15 seconds, 20 seconds or 30 seconds, say maybe a minute. They take a period of time. It could be a second. It could be 15 seconds. So it's about a minute. It could be 10 minutes. It could be a second. It could be 15 seconds. So it's about a minute. It could be 10 minutes. It's a very short sequence.

Anyway, one animator in Disney Studios will be in charge of like literally that minute. Yeah. I didn't realise that. And they work for like four years on this one part. Like the same thing. The same thing. Like you follow one of the animators who's a girl,

I'd say she's in her 20s. She is just doing the bit where arno i mean elsa runs up the hill into the unknown and throws her arms up that's it she just does that like and they just keep watching her just do that one little run up the hill over and over and over again and the other really cute thing is the animators film themselves doing action yes there's a lot of that. I love that. That's like an old technique of like film themselves. Like they do like use like mirrors for facial expressions.

Now for actors often they'll record them doing the sounds, the sounds, the voices and then they'll incorporate that in. Sometimes they'll move and motion track their face to capture facial performances and things like that. Wow. But often, yeah, you'll get a lot of reference material. Like if you see like Robin Williams in like the sound booth for like Aladdin, it's like you can see they incorporate a lot of like his mannerisms

and facial expressions. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't realize. I just thought it was so adorable watching these like animators get their boyfriend to film them running along a road or something and then adding it into the whole thing. It's incredible. Like they used to, because me and Mason have done them for Caravan of Garbage,

but like for like Dumbo and the Lion King, they bring lions out and elephants and they watch how they move and kind of record that and then try to incorporate that into their animation. So, yeah, it's like an old technique that kind of – It's sort of evolved but it's pretty much at its core. It's the same thing. It's always kind of been. Yeah, okay.

Well, I loved it. I just – anyway, so that's on Disney Plus, Into the Unknown, Making Presents 2. And Mulan is coming to Disney Plus. What do you think about this? Me and Mason will talk about it on the more popular show, The Weekly Planet. Mulan is coming to Disney Plus for $30 US.

30 buckaroos. Yeah, so that's on top of you already having Disney Plus. Yes. It's a $200 million movie. How do you feel about that in terms of pricing? You mentioned this to me in the kitchen and I said fine. And the reason I say fine. I mean, also, understandably there'd be people who'd be like,

that's a lot for a movie to watch at home, you know? Yeah, I know. But then I also, when I, I think after watching. If you break down the cost of it though. And how much you'd spend if you went to the movie theatre. Like you'd spend that, but you'd also spend money maybe on food and going out for dinner or whatever. The three of us would go, the baby would be for free obviously.

Like we'd probably even go a couple of times. Like maybe I'd go once with him and then you'd go or whatever with him as well. But yeah, so that'd be at least $40 and then if we got food and whatever. And I think I feel like that too. Maybe, you know, we're privileged at the moment that we could afford that, I guess, which is part of it.

But I also feel like, yeah, the reason I say that is because we're literally going nowhere. We're not going out for dinners or lunches or the movies. You get a $4,000 fine for going out of your five kilometre radius of your house. Yeah. And no shops are open. And you can only leave. No retail.

Yeah. No. You can only leave your house for four reasons. Shopping, caregiving, going to the doctor or whatever. Yep. Suicide. That's not funny. Work.

If you're permitted with a permit. Anyway, you're only allowed to exercise for one hour a day outside your house. Yeah. Goodness gracious. And you can only have one person from the household going to the shops. Yes, a day. A day. That's it.

Anyway, to get groceries. So, whoop-dee-loo, this is fun. Anyway, all I'm saying is we're literally not doing anything. We're not spending any money on petrol. We're not spending any money on petrol. We're not spending any money on transport to get to the film. And they put so much money and time and effort. And we are still, luckily enough, still working. Yeah, exactly.

So to me, I think fair enough, you know. But look, everyone's in different circumstances. Totally, yeah. Yeah, but to me, I think fair enough. So there you go. Cool. All right. All right.

On the topic of positive things, Claire, which I know you're about, I think we did this a while back but I'd like to do it again because last week you were like, why are you such a downer all the time, James? Why are you always bringing us down with your negativity? I know it's your personality. Also, as I said to Mason, I think, recently, I think I'm actually less negative than what I used to be,

if you can imagine that. I would say that's absolutely true. This is you on – it's so funny to me. This is you way less cynical than you used to be. But that's because I knew you when you were like 22. I push it down, mate. I just push it down. I knew you when you had long black hair with a red streak

and you thought you were super cool. Grip my teeth and I go, that's great. It's great. I love it. You used to literally be the character from Nick Hornby's book. What a terrible bloke, yeah. I probably modelled myself a bad moron. But, yeah, I also do – I think I did it before we had kids,

but I also do it just because it's nice. So, like, when we're walking with my son and, like, someone walks're like and they say hi I'll make a note at the point of being like instead of being like what a weird hat that guy was wearing I'll be like what a nice man he's like he was nice I'm like yeah not weird didn't have a weird hat did he no is this because I pointed out to you that you really enjoy just making fun of me constantly. I do. That's your favourite thing. It's how you bond with people and it's basically your whole life. Did you see that guy do that weird thing?

Yeah. I love it. Yeah. Literally one of your favourite pastimes is when we used to be able to drive places, which we can't anymore, but back in the old times when we could drive to people's houses that we liked to visit or didn't like. No, we like all our friends and family. To drive somewhere, you would just constantly look at people walking

down the street and make voices for them. Yeah, I'd be like a guy eating a pie and I'd be like, I'm going to kill my wife. I'm eating a pie. I don't give a shit. I do that because you love it. Give me kill my wife. I'm eating a pie. I don't give a shit. I do that because you love it. Give me a fucking sandwich. I'm having a pie.

I know because it's so funny. Yeah. Like you'll see a guy in a suit on the phone. You'll be like, ha, business. Yeah. Darren. Yeah. Anyway.

Anyway, what I was going to say is what are the things that people are doing to like get through? And obviously in different parts of the world, if you're in New Zealand, you're probably fine. You guys are out of the other end of it. You're crushing it. But what are some things that you're finding is keeping you sane? Like I'd be curious to hear what works for different people. Yeah.

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Twitter us. Twitter away. At SuggestiblePod on Twitter. Yeah, yeah. Or even on my Instagram at ClaireTonte. Or my Instagram at MrSundayMovies. Correct. Tell us what you're doing to get through.

What are you doing to get through currently? We'll talk about it next week, Claire. But I read good reviews. That's how I get through because now you can do it five stars in app this is from dj thumbs up it's great pod i love the name it's like no well that's an emoticon uh love the chemistry between these two james is morbid take on life and claire's upbeat attitude winking smiley face we need longer episodes exclamation mark well they got one today certainly three minutes i only recommended one thing and then I just yelled about couscous for the rest of it.

But that's all right because I didn't really have another thing. And then at the end you told us that you were trying to be a better person by making fun of people less. That's right. But at the same time, I still make fun of people. You just do it in your head. That's fair enough. And out loud.

You can email the show, as we've already said, just like Shelby has. Shelby, I cannot say your last name. I'm so sorry. Loebker. Loebker. I don't know, but I like you. Hi, Claire and James. I was so excited when Claire mentioned Patricia Lockwood's COVID-19 article

a couple of weeks ago. That was a hilarious read. I wanted to mention that she also has a really brilliant memoir called Priest Daddy that I feel like Claire would really enjoy. It's a fascinating look at how love can both show and hide itself in a conservative family. And it's also right hilarious. 10 out of 10 recommend. I love listening to you both every week.

Thank you for sharing yourselves and your thoughts with us. Yours, Shelby Jo. Oh my goodness. That is a 10 out of 10 recommendation, I would say. It totally is. I really want to read that. I really love that article, Patricia Lockwood, and I never heard of her before. Really enjoyed it. That's great. All right. Is that the show? Yep. Next week. Tell us your things. Tell us your things and we'll tell

you what we're doing. You know what I am doing? I watched Mike the Bigglier's, the new one on Netflix. Great. Comedy special. Brilliant. I laughed so hard. I laughed and I didn't even fall asleep. No. I often fall asleep. Yeah, that's right. I didn't. Claire falls asleep. It was so funny. When he talks about the magic sleep suit. Oh, mate. Oh, the one that he made for himself. Yeah.

So funny. Have I talked about that on this show? I don't know. I did want to talk about one thing very briefly. What's that, Claire? Okay. No one else. If you've never had kids and you're not a woman, maybe you don't care about this.

But I'm going to tell you. Well, that's me. See you later. Okay. After you have a baby, a funny thing happens where you cannot fit into anything you own. Well, that's for me anyway. You're like fat, but I quite like being, you know, round in places. But you're like lumpy in weird places that normal clothes just won't fit.

Like the back of your head. Yeah. And your maternity clothes where you're supposed to show off your baby bump suddenly feel a bit weird being like, look at my baby bump. There's no baby in there but look at it. Anyway, I've worked very hard to try and be body positive and I think it's really important to embrace yourself

at all different shapes and sizes. So I'm trying to embrace my body currently but I was coming up a cropper because I couldn't fit into anything and I didn't know what the bloody hell to put on myself. So I've decided to instead of trying to squeeze into my jeans, which I couldn't even fit into at the moment. A jean squeeze. A jean squeeze, even my maternity jeans. I've bought blue leggings and they've bloody changed my life.

Jeggings? Jeggings, yeah. And now because I feel like black is very depressing and I'm trying to move away from wearing black all the time because black is depressing. You want some colour in your life. Yeah, but black's thinning, slimming. No, it's not really.

It's just depressing and it also dulls colours down. If you wear black with a colour, generally it just kind of dulls the other colour. Doesn't that colour pop though more with the black? No, but that's why jeans generally, blue jeans, make a lot of other things look good because it goes with a lot. I love blue jeans. Anyway, no one else really cares about this,

but it's really changed my life. I've got some blue leggings and I've just been able to fit into a whole lot of different like floaty, comfy tops. I bought myself some excellent cardigans because the other thing is when you're in lockdown what the bloody hell do you wear that doesn't make yourself depressed all the time because active wear every day all day is bloody depressing but who wants to wear uncomfortable work gear if you're not working on a teleconferency thing all the time so i bought myself, cosy cardigans in bright, fun colours.

Bought myself a bright yellow scarf and some blue jeggings. And I'm in heaven. So Collings often puts down the bottom, like, the links to the things that we recommend. So if Collings, if you could just write some clothes, I guess. Shut up. That would be great. Anyway, all I'm saying is I'm currently trying to,

and I'm not going to say that horrible phrase, get your body back. Get rid of the baby. Get back. Get a business. Yeah, all of that stuff. Because I don't believe in putting pressure on ourselves in that way. And I think we should value ourselves much more for what we can do and what our bodies can do and how healthy we are than what we look like

or fitting into a particular size of what we can do and what our bodies can do and how healthy we are than what we look like or fitting into a particular size of what we weigh. However, I am trying to get stronger and fitter again because my body got a bit floopy at the end of pregnancy. So I'm working on getting healthier and fitter and stronger. Because also you couldn't lift weights or anything as well. Yeah. All I'm saying is that if you are someone who has recently had a baby. That's me

yeah um get yourself some blue leggings i will some clothes okay i guess all right see you next week for positive positive positive times oh my god who is and if you send in a picture who are you sending a picture of yourself and i'll make fun of it on the show we knew he was there all along what a farce who are you and what have you done never going away i'm just gonna push him down push him down suppress it press it yeah that's no embrace who you are embrace your negativity oh i shouldn't i should embrace who i am all right see you next week we've really blown out this week guys see you next week see you next week see you next week see you bye next week this podcast is part of the planet broadcasting

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