Suggestible - Clickbait

Episode Date: November 10, 2021

Suggestible things to watch, read and listen to. Hosted by James Clement @mrsundaymovies and Claire Tonti @clairetonti.Please vote for Suggestible in The Listener’s Choice award australianpodcastawards.com/voteThis week’s Suggestibles:A Getaway from Your Kids, Pets, HouseTonts Podcast with James ClementClickbaitSarah Jessica Parker’s InstagramClaire’s Sex and the City episode with Do Go OnProject Hail Mary by Andy Weir (spoilers 18:00 to 19:20)Sunshine the Best Movie EverJames’ Willy Wonka episode with Plumbing the Death StarNurturing Your New Life by Heidi SzeGood Inside with Dr Becky15 Minutes of ShameImpeachment: American Crime StoryClaire’s Instagram – Puppy Pictures PleaseSend your recommendations to [e-mail], we’d love to hear them.You can also follow the show on Instagram, Twitter, Facebook @suggestiblepod and join our ‘Planet Broadcasting Great Mates OFFICIAL’ Facebook Group. So many things. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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I mean, now I'm ready. Okay, good. Are you ready? Is that just for this podcast or life in general? It's in general, I think. We're never ready. What are you running, 40%? Something like that?

Yeah, something like that. Who knows? Along those lines. Hello, this is Suggestible Podcast, a podcast where we recommend you things to watch, read and listen to. My name is Claire and with me today is James and we're married. We certainly are. But that's not the only thing we do.

We also- It's the only thing we do. Well, I guess everything we do stems from that. Imagine if you went to a job interview and at the top you just said, I'm married. I think people would respect that. They'd be like, oh, person of the family? I don't know.

Well, yeah, well, that's the age-old argument, isn't it? All the research shows if you're a dude and you walk in and go, hello, I'm married, they go, raise, promotion, we love you. And if you say, hello, I'm married, they're like, oh, she's in her 30s and she's got kids and she's got kids. Probably shouldn't employ. She'll be a bit of trouble. Whereas for guys it's like, oh, somebody must tolerate this guy.

I guess he's not awful. But anyone can get married. Apparently so. Anyways, we recommend things here every week, don't we, Claire? We say, hey, guess what? Here's something you might want to watch, read, listen to, whatevs. And speaking of, well, not really. Yeah, really.

Your final episode of your, for the year, I should say, of your podcast, Taunts. Correct. Which is just a look into the minds of people who just are spiralling hardcore. And what better way to round out the season than with your break glass in case of emergency guest, me, where we talk about masculinity and work and kids.

Parenthood. And just a bunch of shit. And just how your inner voice is basically you just saying, shut up, shut up. Shut up. I know it sucks. Shut up. Yeah, I'm stronger than my inner voice. I love that. My inner voice is like, actually, shut shut up. Shut up. Shut up. I know it sucks. Shut up. Yeah, I'm stronger than my inner voice.

I love that. My inner voice is like, actually, shut up. I know it's not good. Shut up. You're not good either. You don't do anything. Yeah, that is. Thank you for recommending that.

That is out currently now. I just dropped it. You talk about office space as well. I do talk about office space, yeah. Oh, yeah, because every episode has ties into like a particular. Pop culture or reference. Not always, but usually. It's a great show and I'm glad that I got the chance

to be a fill-in guest. You should feel honoured. I feel very honoured. You should feel very honoured. I was scraping the bottom of the proverbial barrel. It's true. No, I saved you. The best to last. Yeah, well, slap in the face of the proverbial barrel. It's true. No, I saved you. The best to last.

Well, slap in the face. With a wet fish. Yeah, to everybody else who went on that show. Anyways, do you want to kick us off with a recommendation for this week? I would love to, James. Funny you should say that. Ladies first today, huh? Uh-huh.

If nothing, if not a feminist. I would love. I am. I would love if somebody to tally up because you're like gentleman's first. Yes. But I think we've tipped over the point where this show is no longer gentleman's first.

I know. But isn't that also feminism, equal opportunity? This is exactly right. You're right. Well, because the reason I would say gentleman's first is because I had the power to choose whether I wanted to let you be first or not. That's true. Correct.

Whereas normally the adage is old ladies first, which is like kind of annoying. But also I sort of also like feminism is complicated. I would love it if the plane crashed into the ocean and the whole thing is sinking and the big slide, the big inflatable slide comes out or whatever, and then you just go, no, you go ahead. And I'll be like, okay, we are now living in an equal society and I will take you up on this offer.

Look, any other bloke I would not let go first but you, James. Thank you. I would. I would. Well, I think we should slide down together to our deaths anyway. Anyway, my turn to recommend something. First up, I just want to say we went away over the weekend for a night away. More about that later.

But I will just say I recommend it. I recommend getting away from your kids and your pets and your house and going somewhere different. That's right. It's not your home. It was the best. And also on that note, I wanted to recommend something that your dad recommended to me.

Oh, yeah. It is called Clickbait. It's a drama television miniseries created by Tony Ayres and Christian White. Now, it has Adrian Grenier, who you will remember as the lead dude in Entourage. Boy, do I. Vinny Chase himself. Correct. Exactly. Now, he's not in it that much. He plays a father and husband who is a sports physio at a local high school. And on the surface, he seems like a lovely guy. The TV series opens with him having dinner for his mum's birthday with his family to which his drunk and disorderly sister turns up

and kind of ruins and they have this argument. Now, his sister is Pia Brewer. So his name is Nick Brewer. Her name is Pia Brewer. She is played by the wonderful Zoe Kazan who happens to be in one of my favourite movies, The Big Sick. You love The Big Sick. I love The Big Sick.

She's the lead in The Big Sick, isn't she? Yeah, she's the lead in The Big Sick and she's just funny and great. She's the one who gets The Big Sick. Yeah, she does get The Big Sick. Exactly. Based on a true story. If you haven't seen that movie, do yourself a favour. Excellent.

Yep, yep, yep. Anyway, she turns up, leather jacket. You know, he's the one with like two teenage sons and like a very presentable, lovely wife. And she like rocks up in a leather jacket, a bit drunk and like a very presentable, lovely wife. And she like rocks up in a leather jacket, a bit drunk and like all opinionated. Anyway, things go awry and the two have a big fight. So Pia storms out and then she wakes up in the morning with a broken phone. So she kind of has a massive hangover. She stumbles into work where she's a nurse and she

happens to see on the laptop of one of her patients who happens to also be like a tech millennial wizard. Oh, yeah. You know when there's like youths who know all about the internet. I know the youths. Yeah, so he's really, he's one of those people that, you know, knows how to hack things and build apps. Sure, yeah. You know, to be fair, this is fairly shit, but I love it.

It's like popcorn thriller drama and it's kind of terrible, but it gets better as it goes. Anyway, she sees a viral video that has been posted of her brother, Vinny Chase. Love him. Adrian Grenier. Adrian Grenier, Grenier, who, and this is actually not very funny, is clearly beaten up and bleeding.

I love it. No. No, I love it. No. No, I love it because I hate Vinnie Chase. All right. One of my favourite shows to make fun of is Entourage. It is hilarious. Well, you will love this then. He's holding a sign that says, I abuse women in big letters.

Wow. I know. I do love that, I think. Do I? Is that what his character in Entourage does? Sort of. I mean, pretty much. I can't remember. Anyway, and then another, he kind of brings another slide across.

It says, I kill women. It's basically like that scene in Love Actually. I kill women? Yeah. It's basically like the scene in Love Actually with the guy with the cassette player and he's standing at the door of Keirn Knightley and saying things like, I'll love you till your death do us part or whatever. Except it's less romantic, more serial killer-y.

My goodness. Anyway. Death Do Us Part or whatever except it's less romantic, more serial killer-y. My goodness. Anyway, and so the last slide says this video, when this video hits five million views, I die. Dun, dun, dun. Okay, so I'm not going to, no spoilers here, but the show spirals from there going deep into Nick Brewer's questionable past and his marriage to Sophie Brewer, who is played by Betty Gabriel, who you would recognise

as Georgina in the horror film Get Out. I would recognise that. You would. She's excellent in this as well. Yeah, she's good. I like her. Yeah. Another clever device they use in this TV series is that each scene,

I mean is it clever? I don't know, but I enjoyed it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Each episode is done from a slightly different character's perspective. Sure. So you'll start off the first episode is Pia's perspective and then it goes into his wife's perspective and then obviously a detective as well in the case who is Muslim and is kind

of climbing the ladder at work and feels like he's being discriminated against because of his faith. And that's kind of interesting and plays out a little bit. Also there's some sexual tension between Pia, the sister, and the detective because they hooked up on a dating app. Oh, my goodness. I know, before the case happened. That sounds like a conflict of interest.

There's just a lot of funny references to like this new digital age and everything is like apps and, you know, like viral videos and like the dark web and, you know. After the video airss it quickly hits five million and then this kid who initially showed Pia the video just happens to have built an app where you can kind of. Up to the views. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, exactly. What? Up to the views to make it not look five million? No, no. No. For a minute I was agreeing and I was like absolutely not. I don't know why I agreed with you.

No, so the app encouraged. You're like, look, I made Flappy Bird. Well, it's not Flappy Bird. It's like a knockoff of Flappy Bird. It's just like there's no time for Flappy Bird knockoffs. It's just like Adrian Grenier's head just flying around as a bird. Do you get it? Yeah, I get it.

It's good actually. Yeah, no. No, James. It's much more serious than that. It allows people to kind of be vigilantes basically. And they go around. He starts a campaign on this app for people to try and find Adrian, well, Nick Brewer's body.

Sure. And so then people kind of put on the app where they've looked and where they haven't looked and all that stuff. Yeah, so no spoilers here, but that is kind of the through run of the show. Did you finish it? I haven't quite finished it. I'm almost done. I keep falling asleep.

You know my problem. I keep. Six episodes in. I keep seeing that pop up on Netflix and I'm like, I fucking hate Entourage, so I'll never watch it. But I'm glad that it's. Well, lucky for you, he's actually really not in it very much at all. That is good news.

Yeah, he's really not in it. Do they twist his head off? I'm sure he's a very nice guy in real life but he's also the boyfriend in um devil wears prada and it's what's interesting about that is all her friends including him him are like you're putting your career against chilling out and being cool or whatever which is like maybe the point of that movie also by the end because he's like i'm leaving i live in the fashion world i'm gonna do a blog or whatever the fuck. But like be supportive. Be like, good for you.

You're going for a thing or whatever and you're working for Glenn Close or whoever's in that. The other one. The other one. Meryl Streep. Meryl Streep. Meryl Streep. I just think that movie's a bit kind of twisted.

Not that Meryl Streep is great because also the point of that character is that she's also awful. She's playing a version of Anna Wintour. Yes. Who is like the head of Vogue. Yes. Vogue. Anyway, oh, my God, just a side note.

I've been watching Sarah Jessa Parker's Instagram and Just Like That, which is the TV series of Sex and the City. When's that out? I don't know, but they're filming and she keeps dropping teasers and she's currently on the front cover of Vogue at the moment and I bloody love it. Is Big dead? My hot little hands can't wait to watch it.

And I don't know, is he dead? Who knows? I hope so. And all of the stuff that's coming out about it, it's just awesome. Even though it's probably going to be terrible. This is your The Force Awakens. This is your Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. And I know, just like you, I'm going to get my dreams crushed.

You never know. Sometimes they're good. Blade Runner 2049 was good. You know what I have to say I am enjoying? What's that? Sarah Jessica Parker looks amazing as does Cynthia Nixon. Thank you. I had a brain freeze for a minute.

But they do actually look their age. I mean they look amazing for their age. She's not doing red hair, is she, Cynthia Nixon? No, she's going great. And that is some stuff that I bloody love. Disgusting. Yeah. I mean, they look amazing for their age. She's not doing red hair, is she, Cynthia Nixon? No, she's going great. And that is some stuff that I bloody love. Disgusting. No. No, it's just because they look great, but they look great for intelligent,

funny women of their age and still sexy and still like really just great. And I'm really hopeful that they're actually going to tell a storyline that really fits the narrative of those characters. Well, I heard big guys. I remember we talked about maybe doing a recap show maybe. I would totally. Yes, please. Can we do that?

Let me check the date on that. I'm totally doing that. Just like that. Just like that. They're filming it currently. Anyway, I just love everything that comes out. No, December 2021. Oh, my God. We should do a recap show. Yeah, I just, I love everything that comes out. No, December 2021. Oh, my God.

We should do a recap show. Yeah, I'll do it. Let's do it. Anyway, I can't, I don't know how I got into that, but should I go back to clickbait? Oh, and then we can watch the Carrie Diaries, the prequel series from 2013. No, thank you.

Yes, please, if you could. Thank you. All right. Anyway, let's do that. That'll be a fun Christmas present. Yes. For the two people who listen to this show who are also diehard Sex and the City fans. But you are also a big fan of that show.

It's cool. It's good. I did a Do Go On episode of Sex and the City. Yes, I did. That's true. Yeah, that's fun. So if you haven't listened to that, that was quite fun. I was super nervous doing it, but it was really fun.

Yeah. Anyway, back to clickbait. Yes, please. Clickbait. Clickety-clack bait. Yeah. So there's some pretty standard cliffhangers right in this there's a lot like the tropes are pretty clear it's pretty corny it's a bit like a bag of maltesers that you kind of eat the first one you're like i remember this this is pretty good but you find yourself eating the whole bag in like a kind of sugar stupor and it wasn't particularly good for

you but you bloody enjoyed the ride. Absolutely. And that is exactly what this is. So if you are in for something kind of grippy and thrillery that you can watch after work and you don't need too many brain cells. I don't. Yes. And there's also there are some like, you know,

they try and do some kind of deeper through lines. And I haven't finished it to be fair. So I'm sensing a twist So I'm sensing a twist. I'm sensing a twist. Do you reckon maybe Adrian Grenier was in it the whole time? See, that's what I'm sensing, but I don't know because I haven't finished it. Well, maybe he's been dead for like weeks or whatever. Who knows?

Who knows? We'll find out. Anyway, yes, a clickbait that's on Netflix. Terrific. I'll check it out. Just kidding, I won't. Do you know what I did this week, Claire? No, I don't.

I read a book. Tell me. And by that I mean I listened to a book. Stop my beating heart. Are you familiar with Andy Weir and The Martian, the movie and book The Martian? Matt Damon's on Mars. He's like, help me. Someone come get me.

I'm stuck on Mars. I love that. And he had to set up a tent and then grow little plants in it. I was really into that because I love a garden story. It wasn't just any tent because this particular tent couldn't have any. You had to zip it up so none of the Martian atmosphere would get in. Oh, I see. You had to zip on it from memory.

Anyway, Andy Weir has written another book. It's called Artemis and it's a story about a welder who lives on a moon colony and has to participate in a heist to save her father and herself because of situations because there's a mystery and a murder. Anyways, it sucks. I didn't like it. But then he wrote another book called Hail Mary, which is his third book, which I really,

really enjoyed. So in this particular book, the sun is dying, right? The world's superpowers need to unite to find a solution. Does this sound familiar? It sounds very familiar. Sounds like the movie Sunshine, my favorite movie. It does. I was going to say, it sounds like the movie that you've shown me and then talk about very much a lot. Look, it's not similar to the movie Sunshine, which is a terrific movie, but in a way,

it is very similar to the movie Sunshine. Okay, here's a controversial opinion. To me, everything that you and now also our son is into kind of blends into the one same fucking thing. Oh, really? And I don't know. Oh, really? And I don't know. Like there's a particular genre thing happening,

like space things and alien and monster things, and there's usually a dude who's like the centre character who's a bit tortured and then he gets stuck in a thing and it's like the hero quest and then he battles some things and some other things and then eventually it's all fine. You're saying things a lot, Claire, but you like Sex and the City. That's the biggest cliche on earth. No, I'm not saying I'm right. I'm saying I'm wrong.

Like it's ridiculous that I think that because obviously there's complexity and nuance and like amazing directors and like incredible storylines. It's just in my brain for some reason when you start talking about this stuff and I wonder if any partners out there at least feel the same. I just hear wah, wah, wah. This is outrageous. This is outrageous.

This is Andy Weir's third novel and, quite frankly, I feel a return to form. So anyway, it focuses on a teacher whose name I've forgotten, right? He's a science teacher who has a background in science and he's a bit of a disgraced scientist and they're like, boo, yeah, he's teaching. He's like, I like teaching or whatever. Anyway, they show up and they're like, guess what, guy?

The sun is dying and you have a very specific skill that we think we might need for this. And so then he has to analyse, like, why the sun is dying and then he figures it out and he ends up having to go on this space journey. And all this is revealed, like, because he wakes up at the sun, he doesn't know where he is or whatever, so it's kind of revealed in flashback.

But it turns out that he's been flown to, like, the far side of the galaxy to one of the only stars in the system that is not dying. And he's like, and so it's like why is this one not dying when all the other stars, including the sun, is dying? So he's there, you know, by himself and he has to figure it out. But who is also there is an alien life form whose son is not son as in like the son of, but whose son as in a star is also dying. So they have to kind of team up and work out a way to communicate

and then figure out why is this happening and stop this thing from happening and why isn't it happening at this particular location that they're at. And it's good. It's fun. That actually sounds great. And they're at. It's good. It's fun. That actually sounds great. And they're making a movie of it. I believe, who was it, Phil Lord and Chris Miller maybe who did like Spider-Verse.

So what's the alien like? Like is the alien sort of human-esque, humanoid? Well, they share some similarities because there's like the, because they might be sourced from like the same – They both like to eat Vegemite and cheese sandwiches. There's a lot of that actually. There's like maybe 10 to 15 chapters dedicated to that. Actually, it's called Project Hailberry.

I think I gave it the wrong name. Yeah, Phil Lord and Chris Miller who did like the Spider-Verse movie and what else did they work on? They worked on a bunch of really cool stuff. And Ryan Gosling is going to be in the movie. The Goose is going to be the main character, the teacher as mentioned. So, yeah, the alien, I mean this is a spoiler if you do want to read it. So, Colleen, if you could put in a time code who's editing this, thank you.

It's like an arachnid kind of creature. It's like a spider essentially. And he's like, ooh, this is upsetting because it's a big spider or whatever. But like they form this kind of like relationship that's really interesting. Yeah, but it speaks in a way that's different to him. And then they have to figure out like each other's speech patterns and they each have particular advantages that the other one like does not. Like you'd think that it's more advanced and it is in a way,

but at the same time it's not for various reasons. Because the spider can, like, do a web and hang upside down. Doesn't do any of that stuff. Doesn't do any of the things that a spider can do. And they also have completely different atmospheres, so they can't, like, be in the same space at the same time. So that's also part of it. So are they in different spaceships?

Yes, because the spider wasn't just hanging around in space. In a big web, the spider was also in a spaceship at the same star trying to figure out what was going on. And it was flying it with its little legs. Yes, little spider legs. Like its little spider legs. Did it have a little soda in a little soda cup? Yes, exactly.

Did it have little shoes on its little spider legs? It had little shoes on each of his little spider legs, yes. A little cap? A little cap, little spider cap. Good on you, little spider. The cap said, I love flies on it. Anyway, if you like The Martian, you'll probably like this. I liked it.

All right. That sounds cool. You know, as much as I just made fun of it, I do genuinely love a space movie. I think you'd like the movie. You like The Goose, don't you, as well? Yeah. Maybe just wait for The Goose.

All right. I'll let The Goose. The Goose's version. for the goose. All right. I'll let the goose. The goose's version. The goose. All right. The goose. The golden goose. That's right.

Whenever someone says the word goose, this phrase comes out at me from Charlie and the Chocolate Factory where it's, what is it from? It's from Veronica Salt and she's like, I want a goose that lays golden eggs for Easter. I don't know why it always comes up when everyone says goose. That's why I always like giggle to myself when people look at me like I'm deranged. How did really one can make a goose that lays golden eggs?

Like genetic tampering? Yeah, it must have been. Look, there was a whole lot of things going on. Maybe he shoved a couple of golden eggs up there. Yeah, maybe it was a parlour trick. I have a theory. I talked about this on Sandspan, so I'm plumbing the Death Star. I'm pretty sure I did, that he's an escaped Nazi scientist

and he's taken refuge. Because, you know, all the world superpower was, like, scooped up all the geniuses from World War II. Like, they famously worked for, like, NASA and Russia and all these other countries. So anyway, I think he's a Nazi. Oh, mate. I wouldn't be surprised.

There's definitely some people going on. Gene Wilder has that kind of vibe. I don't think Gene Wilder's a Nazi at all. No, I didn't mean that. I just meant like as in the character that he plays. Oh, gosh. There's something sinister about it. Don't quote me on that.

No. Yeah, he just, there's always, but that, as we have always said, is the genius of Roald Dahl in those stories because it has that dark, sinister undertone but it never goes too far. No. Mostly. Anyways, I don't really think he's a Nazi. He probably wasn't written to be a Nazi.

Oh, I love that. I love that. You love the Johnny Depp version. No, that sucks. We were on our first date. We did. Which we never didn't see much of, I'm telling you. We didn't see much of it because we were standing up going,

boo, this movie sucks. No, because we were making out. We were making out through the whole thing. Nah, we were yelling boo at the screen. We were insufferable when we first met. It's true. We were just like loved up to the hilt. Whereas now people think we're great.

Okay, why don't you continue with your next suggestion? All right. Okay. Excellent. So this I stumbled upon because a wonderful person I follow on Instagram called Heidi Apple, who I recommend her book, recommended her book and her recipes ages ago. Her book's called Nurturing Your New Life.

That's the name of my book I'm writing. What? I was going to say the name of your audio book. Oh, God. Then your new life away from everyone that you live with. That's right. Anyway, she is wonderful and I follow her for parenting advice and also recipes.

And that book, as I've said before, is a really good gift to give a new parent. It's all about kind of looking after yourself when you become a mother. The recipes are really good. You like the recipes as well. They're like very easy. I love the recipes. You love the chicken as well. They're like very easy. I love the recipes. You love the chicken tray bake we always do, super easy. Anyway, she put up a post from a woman called Dr. Becky Kennedy

and actually her Instagram tag is DrBeckyGoodInside. Now she is a podcaster, a blogger, and she also writes a newsletter and she's currently writing a book which will be out later in the year. Very good. she also writes a newsletter and she's currently writing a book, which will be out later in the year. And within one year she has just exploded and, and Time Magazine recently named her the Millennial Parenting Whisperer. So what I love about her Instagram is she's a clinical psychologist and a mom of three, but she has these really short videos that give you not kind of like, they don't go into the theory of child psychology and like who has time for that as a parent.

She literally gives you words to say to your kids when you come up with a difficulty. Stop. Yeah. Get off that. I'll hit you. No, but they're really common parenting issues that come up all the time.

And the way that she phrases stuff is so simple. So she's sort of challenging people to rethink the way we raise our children. She specialises in thinking deeply about what's happening for kids and translating these ideas into simple, actionable strategies for parents to use at home. Her goal is to empower parents to feel sturdier and more equipped to manage the challenges of parenting. And she has expertise in parenting and child development

with an emphasis on anxiety and resilience, which I think we could all do with at the moment. One of the things I loved about her work too is that the phrase good inside, she talks about it not just in terms of wanting our kids to feel good inside, but she says when you do these simple parenting hacks and change the way you think about your parenting, it makes you feel good. Yes. And it's actually in order to be a good parent, you need to be a capable, responsible, competent leader

who feels good about who they are. Yeah, right. And she said this really amazing thing, which is that when you are yelling at your kids, if you really listen to what you're saying or reflect on it afterwards, after you've let fly, it's generally the way you talk to yourself when you're angry at yourself. And I thought that was such a breakthrough for me and I think can really help be more compassionate to yourself and therefore more compassionate to your kids.

Yeah, right. And understand that sometimes the things that you're saying and yelling in the tone that you're yelling in is actually something to do with inadequacy that you're feeling. In yourself, okay. In yourself or something from your own childhood or something that's been brought up. Somebody said to you or.

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excellent too, which is called Good Inside with Dr. Becky. And it went to number one on the Apple podcast charts in kids and family in April 2021. So she's quite new. Oh, that's awesome. Yeah, she's got a huge number, like 800,000 followers on Instagram. So she's massive. So some of the tools I would suggest that I loved the most, and just to be clear, she has a BA in psychology and human development. This is like some crystal shit or whatever. No, exactly. And she has a BA in psychology and human development. This is like some crystal shit or whatever.

And she has a PhD in clinical psychology from Columbia University and she's also got a certificate in relational psychotherapy from the Stephen Mitchell Centre. So she's very well established and you can tell she's an expert in what she does. I used some of these strategies on my son this week and they blew my mind. One of them was the age-old thing where your kid gets home from school

and they never tell you a goddamn thing. And because he's your son as well and I love him to pieces, but he's like, he's just like, I don't know, what would you say, a closed book. Yeah. He just doesn't, and like you, doesn't really talk about what's going on for him at school ever. And so we only ever really hear much about what happens at school

from like other parents. Or in passing. Or in passing if you like are doing the dishes and you suddenly get a snippet and you have to pretend to be replaying it and be like, oh, tell me more. Oh, my God. So she had this game that you play which is basically you say to him, okay, we're going to play a game.

I'm going to try and guess what you did at school today and you just tell me if you did it or not. Yeah. And you don't, that's all you do. You don't try and get him to tell you anything about school. You don't say tell me what you did instead. You just do that.

And what's been so interesting is I thought, he's not going to fall for this, he bloody loved it. Fell right into that trap. Yeah, fell right in. But also what was cool about it was he'd be like, oh, no, mum, definitely not. We didn't do that. We did this and it was way better and it was really interesting

and then this happened and he'd tell me something about it happened with his friends or whatever. And it was like this whole world opened up for me that I didn't know that he had at school. What do you do when they get older and they don't fall for that anymore? Yeah, that's a really good question. Well, lucky Becky has like thousands of Instagram videos. So, you know, we'll get there.

What's her name? I'm going to follow her. Dr. Becky Goodinside. She's great to follow because literally you could be on the loo and watch three videos that can improve your parenting in about two minutes. Her whole philosophy is parents have zero time. And so everything she does is like super short. B-E-C-K-Y. Yeah, Dr. B-E-C-K-Y,

good insight is her Instagram. She does a lot of reels, which are really great. Another tip that I have started using, which I think is just great to use with everyone. If something happens where your child is startled or angry, or they hurt themselves, rather than kind of like jumping in with, I'm so sorry that happened to you and all this kind of stuff. You can just say, you weren't expecting that. You weren't expecting that, were you? And I've started using that like with friends of mine as well.

And it's a really magic phrase because it does, it makes you feel seen. It makes you feel acknowledged that what happened to you was a bit scary or a bit shocking or a bit uncomfortable and unsettling, but it doesn't sort of place any judgment on it. And I just felt like it immediately can kind of calm things down because sometimes if you go over the top with kids and like, oh, are you okay? Oh, my goodness. Sometimes that's great but sometimes that can actually make them more upset or shut down or depending on what, you know, your kid's like.

And it's the same with loud noise. I've been doing it with our two-year-old or, you know, 18-month-old when she hears a loud noise and I just say, oh, you weren't expecting that. And I think that anyway, it just has really started to change some of the ways that I parent, which I think is really valuable and don't we all need as much help as we can get. She also has a potty training handbook too if anyone's toilet training, which is a whole other thing.

Yeah, I'll give it a read. Cool, excellent. I'm going to hit the ball one day. One day, I know. I've been looking for strategies for grown men. Anyway, that's it. Dr. Becky Inside, I totally recommend going to check her out. Maybe I will.

And by that I mean I already have. I've downloaded it and it's ready. Yeah, she's great. It's G2G. Good to go. Good to go. Amazing. All right.

Okay. Claire, if that is your name. Possibly. Which it is, if that is your name. It's possibly. Which it is because I've seen your license and I know that it's officially legally your name. Guess what? You're a donkey and I'm not. Come on, mate. I watched a documentary this week. It's called 15 Minutes of Shame and it was produced by Monica Lewinsky,

15 Minutes of Shame and it was produced by Monica Lewinsky, the very same Monica Lewinsky people know from Monica Lewinsky scandal. She's obviously moved on from that. It's been a very long time and it was an awful thing that happened to her and how she was dragged. Not cool. I will say that, Claire. Do you agree or disagree? I totally agree.

Look, I think Monica Lewinsky is a hero. She's pretty incredible. And what I find so interesting about her is that at the time the strategy was because her name was literally everywhere. She was in like every pop song. She was used as the butt of so many jokes, which is crazy because she was in her like early 20s as well. Also, Bill Clinton sucks.

Exactly. And she was, I mean, for so many reasons. Our culture's just moved so far now. We understand so much more about sexual assault and not that that was sexual assault. She maintains it was consensual. And the power dynamics. The power dynamics. And the way she was treated compared to him.

Yeah, exactly. And all of that stuff. Culture's moved so far. But what's so cool about her is that the strategy was shut down, don't say anything. They'll leave you alone if you're smaller, if you're silent, if you just become a name. And that's what happened. I didn't know anything about her.

I don't think I'd ever even seen her speak before because I think that, and that was deliberate, but she's suddenly come out in recent years and is now really public on Twitter and is doing all of these amazing talks. Yeah, she's super funny and witty and great and articulate and smart. Anyway, and I just really admire her. Continue. Cool. Anyways, this, sorry, as I mentioned, it's called 50 Minutes of Shame

and it looks at kind of the social media like backlash and how it affects like real people. So, for example, it looks at like remember that guy who ordered 18,000 hand sanitizer bottles in the US? Then it was like spread across the world, like look at this guy, whatever he's done this thing and whatever, whatever. So they go into that and his story and he tells his side of it and look, he probably shouldn't have bought 18,000 bottles

of hand sanitizer but he's a guy who works from home and that is his business. Like he sells or he did, he can't do it anymore because he's been banned by Amazon. He sells things online and they reported things like he sells or he did, he can't do it anymore because he's been banned by Amazon. He sells things online and they reported things like he sold a hand sanitizer thing for like $70, like a single thing. And that's not true. Like he sold, that was I think one of the most expensive things he sold

but it was like a case. It wasn't like one single bottle, right? And just how this like just destroyed his life from this article that came out and he thought it was like the article was like something else entirely, not like a hit piece on this particular dude. And so he's getting death threats. People are noticing him in real life and like mentioning to him. And you see him like he's just completely shook.

It just fucking shattered his world. So it also talks about like a few other people in regards to that, which, you know, I'll save if you want to go and watch it. But it also gets into a bit about public shaming throughout the ages and how it, you know, kind of used to be but now it's different because it's on like a global scale and like how and like the start of like Twitter and Twitter mob groups and how Twitter was just like a fun thing.

You'd be like, I love rabbits or whatever. But then like in like 2012 it kind of changed, you know, and you felt that kind of shift at that particular time. And then it gets into how social media has led to like the rise of things like white supremacy, in particular Facebook, all these groups are allowed to thrive and this misinformation and there's also no liability to any of these sites. Like there's no obligation for them to, for any of them to do anything

because there are not, you can't, the laws can't keep up with it, you know, and they also talk about how, well, it's also freedom of speech and whatever, and we're a private company and all these things, but it's clearly like damaging people, you know, uh, in, in multiple ways. And some sites are better than others. Obviously, Facebook is one of the worst because they just let it run rampant. I think, though, it's not great, to be honest, as a documentary. There's not really anything about it that we don't know, like, yeah, Facebook sucks and whatever, you know what I mean? And the media often lies and paints people as villains who maybe, you know, people are complex and maybe they make a decision

in the heat of the moment which is wrong, you know what I mean? But then everybody sees it and it can become this whole thing, you know what I mean? I think it does a good job of that, of like putting a human face on like a handful of particular people and talking about their stories. But, again, it's not great, if I'm honest. But it was interesting enough. I do want to watch, and I might talk about this in a few weeks

or whenever I get around to it. There's a story. Do you remember American Crime Story? I think they did O.J. Simpson in Season 1 or whatever. Yes. This one's called Impeachment, American Crime Story, and it does the Monica Lewinsky scandal. Yes, I was just Googling that.

It's got Clive Owen and what's her name? She was in Booksmart. I can't remember what her name is but she plays Monica Lewinsky. So, yeah, it looks good. Apparently it's good and that's a good show I think. Yeah, I've heard good things about that and I've been meaning to watch that too. That's on my list.

Yeah, Beanie Feldstein. Beanie Feldstein, sorry. I think is Jonah Hill's sister? Yeah, she is. She's Jonah Hill's sister. There you go. Cool. Cool, cool.

Great and cool and good and fun. That's good. No, I've definitely got that on my list. I think that's going to be fascinating to watch. So I'm so there for it. And good and fun, yeah. Yes. Is it fun? I don't know,

but it's definitely fascinating. I think actually Monica Lewinsky has been involved in the production of that too. Yeah, I'd imagine so. It seems that way. Which I think is really just amazing and great. Good on her. She's awesome. Okay. So does that bring us to the end of our recommendations? Oh, look, I hate to say it, but it does, Claire. We're going to have to get out of here. And look after that dog you bought. Oh, guys, that's a whole other, but it does, Claire. We're going to have to get out of here. And look after that dog you bought. Oh, guys, that's a whole other story. I haven't even told you about it. It's the single most silly decision.

It is. Because we already have a dog. I know. Okay, James is losing his mind. Like genuinely that's laughed up, but he's also losing his mind. Okay, I feel like I have to quickly say during lockdown, it's been one of the longest lockdowns in the world, James. And anyway, one of the things I did to keep my mind off things

was that I fell into a rabbit hole of watching puppy videos. You went dog crazy. I went dog crazy. I Googled. I researched. I watched training videos. I just watched all of these puppy videos endlessly. I got stuck on it.

And I don't know why, but I decided that I wanted to get, and then I was Googling puppies and I found these puppies and I fell in love with them and they're the cutest things I've ever seen. And then I decided that we should get one. And it turns out when you order a puppy in lockdown, it maybe takes like 12 weeks before the puppy is ready because they have to grow it or something and then whatever. And then suddenly it just shows up at your house

and there's another dog at your house. I know. And you regret your decision. Oh, God. It's the ultimate impulse buy. It is. It's the most. No, it wasn't an impulse buy.

No, I really thought about it, but I wasn't in my right mind. I wonder if anyone else has done a silly thing in lockdown because I'm already running at like 10%. So now I have to look after a newborn puppy. She's delightful. And look, she gets along well with our other dog already, which is great. Yeah, which is really good. And to be fair, she's super bloody cute.

I'll have to pop her on our social, on Instagram. My God. You're going to get, your social media account is going to absolutely explode. We have to give her a name. We haven't thought of a name yet. Anyway. I like Rosie and our son likes Zippy, which I hate. Okay.

To be fair, it is a step up from Doggy, which is the best one, and then Waggy, which is the second one. And another one we thought Dot was good. Yeah, I like Dot or Rosie. Those are my two picks, but we'll let you know if we end up because Zippy is a Ninjago character or something, a dragon ninja. Anywho, this is boring, boring stuff, but I've somehow landed James in a hot pot of poo.

She's not wrong. With more things on his plate that he didn't want. In this hot pot of poo that I made. He just wants to be left alone. However, if you don't want to be left alone and you want to contact us, we would love that. You can email the show at stressfulpod.gmail.com. Just like Kaushika has, who is a bloody legend.

Hi, Claire and James. Long-time listener of everything you both do. I saw that you both had a wonderful mini holiday over the weekend. We did. Why did we? It feels like a long time ago now. Yeah, remember when we didn't have two dogs? Oh, my God.

Anyway. Oh, over on my Instagram, I've got some little piggies from this. Anyway, and I was delighted to see that you enjoyed some of my favorite meals. Oh, my God. We had the best dinner, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Why did we? My goodness, it was so nice. I'm a Sri Lankan immigrant that moved to Australia for studies

and chose to stay on and become an Aussie citizen. One downside to choosing this path is that I rarely get to enjoy these sorts of dishes, which mum would prepare from scratch every Sunday. You could even call it the Sri Lankan equivalent of a Sunday roast. Very good. Seeing your photos reminded me of those days when I'd wake up on a Sunday to the smell of mum cooking up a feast with hoppers, string hoppers, Jaffna crab curry, dhal curry, jackfruit curry and several sambals. So thank you for that pure hit and nostalgia.

My goodness. We went to a restaurant called Many Little, Sri Lankan food, and hoppers are these kind of fermented rice bowls with egg in the bottom. Yeah. It was like paper thin and just, oh my goodness, so amazing. Crazy good. Crazy good. So as you can imagine, COVID has meant that I have not been able to visit my family for a while now. I'm so sorry, Kashka. So my partner, who is from country Victoria, took it upon herself to make some

of these dishes at home to cheer me up. In doing her research, she found some items that I think you might enjoy. Instant hopper mixture, similar to instant pancake mix and comes with instructions on how to prepare the batter, similar to making crepes in a bowl-shaped pan. So a hopper pan is a nonstick pan shaped like a bowl, basically, and hoppers are usually a hit with kids because you're essentially eating the bowl that you serve the curry in. That is fun.

It was super fun, wasn't it? That is fun. Yeah. So I thought you might enjoy this recommendation. It's so like shrunken food. I've never had it before. It's so coconutty and flavoursome and just delicious. Take care.

Kaushika. Love the food. Genuinely awesome. I'd love to get one of those bowl-shaped pans and have a go. They were super fun. All right. All right. Now people might be like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

We haven't even read out a review for this show yet. You're right. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Thank you for reminding me, listener of the show. This is from Caitlin Koala who says, and by the way, I cannot stress this enough. If you want to review this show, you can just do it in app. So you open up your app, just give it how many stars you want,

preferably five. That's obviously your choice. And then you just go about your business, but you know in your heart that you may have helped the show slightly get more seen. Potentially, I don't know. Anyways, Caitlin says, are you guys with a Z okay? A lovely listen to a nice Aussie couple with chewing gum brains who just need a goddamn nap. Goddamn nap. Never has a true word been spoken. It's true.

Your phone is, what is it doing? I thought that was your phone. It's your phone. I'm so sorry. My chewing gum brain forgot to turn it off. I was going to say, this is, all of that what we just did then wasn't part of the review. But they have a genuinely heartwarming relationship

and some gosh darn good suggestions and banter and then a little smiley face. And I also want to mention that the Australian Podcasting Awards are available for, thank you, Caitlin, but the Australian Podcasting Awards, which I'm trying to skew yet again. Not really skew. It's a genuine competition, I guess, for people to vote. If people could vote for it, that would be great. Oh, it would bloody make a whole year, this hellfire of a year.

So I can get up there and everyone can be like, who is it? And I'm like, fuck you guys, I won it again. I was just going to be like, this old boot. And then we leave. Boo, people will say. Boo, we don't know Boo, McSplode. Boo, we don't know who you are. Doesn't matter.

Doesn't matter if you don't know who I am. But I'll be back next year to win it again. Will you actually come with me? Because last time I had to go, I went with Chanel. Is there food? My good friend Chanel. No, there's booze though. Come on.

Look, Claire, as I've mentioned, summer bodies are made in winter and it's spring. I'm late. I've got work to do. But there's no food there. So you won't have to eat anything. You could run there. You could run there from here.

Get your calorie count in. All right. You don't have to drink anything. You just like run up the stairs on the stage, do some squats while you're there and just say, thank you for the award. Summer bodies are made in winter. Thank you for the award. Summer bodies are made in winter. Thank you for the award.

I didn't really want it. I did it as a joke. See you later. No, that's not true. Anyhoo, that's it from us. We've been to Just For Podcast. Thank you as always to Rocklings for editing this week's episode. What a marvel of a man.

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