Suggestible - Dance Fever

Episode Date: May 19, 2022

Suggestible things to watch, read and listen to. Hosted by James Clement @mrsundaymovies and Claire Tonti @clairetonti.This week’s Suggestibles:01:09 Florence + the Machine interview02:16 Dance Fever Album07:18 Free with Bill Nighy Music Video12:31 Made For Love19:51 Call My Agent!23:54 Entourage24:54 The Wilds27:40 Bianca Harrin's Website29:47 Tonts Podcast and The One You Feed Podcast35:32 King Music VideoSend your recommendations to [e-mail], we’d love to hear them.You can also follow the show on Instagram, Twitter, Facebook @suggestiblepod and join our ‘Planet Broadcasting Great Mates OFFICIAL’ Facebook Group. So many things. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Everyone is happy here. This is a happy place of happy people. Wow. Maybe people who haven't had a lot of sleep but happy people. This is a show where we recommend you things to watch and listen to. Yep. My name is Claire, the Ray of Sunshine. James is here also.

We are married. He tends to grump all along on everything. I do all my grumping on air. You do all your grumping off air. Yeah, that's true. That's true. As we have previously discussed, I have a rosy persona and inside a black hole. Just filled with darkness.

No. Only a little. Only on Mondays. Don't. Oh, my God. Thanks, only a little. Only on Mondays. Oh, my God. Thanks, Garfield. Listen, what would you like to talk about this week? Oh, I'm really excited. I'm very excited.

I have so many cool things to talk about. Oh, my God. Which one should I choose? You've done so many cool things. Which one should I talk about first? I don't even know. All right, I will. I'll talk about this one first.

Okay. My first one. I don't know if you've heard of a little band called Florence and the Machine. What are you saying? Florence. I actually can't say it now. I can't say her name. Florence and the Machine. Gotcha. Good. Florence and the Machine. I got there. Florence and the Machine. Have you heard of them, James? Yes, I have. Can you name one song?

The song that goes, Oh, whatever. What is that? I don't know. That sounded like an elephant going to the toilet. Look, I just picture Florence and the Machine and she's in like a big flowy 70s dress and she's got her bangs and she's waving her arms on stage. She's waving her arms.

Yeah, but no, you don't have any songs? Got that song that goes, we built this city. We built this city. What about you've got the love, you've got the love. Oh, okay. Yeah, I know that song. What about the dark days are over, the dark days are gone. You know the famous Lungs album she did that was bloody amazing.

Don't know it. All right. Anyway, so you do know that they're very famous though. Sure. Anyway, I'm going to tell you about her because she's just dropped a new album and it is so exciting and I've gone on a huge deep dive into her back catalogue of interviews and you know how much I love an interview with a musician.

It's true. Anyway, so just a little history for anyone, well, mainly just for James because everyone else in the world bloody knows who they are. Florence and the Machine are an English indie rock band that formed in East London in 2007. There was very much a scene back then. Absolutely. Consisting of vocalist Florence Welsh, keyboardist Isabella Summers.

Now, she was kind of known as Isabelle Machine, Isabella. So that's why she was the Machine. Yeah, that's where the machine came from. Is that how it started? Because now there are nine members. Yeah, exactly. So it started with the two of them writing and then they have guitarist Rob Ackroyd, harpist Tom Munger and then a collaboration of other musicians

and producers and lots and lots of different people. I mean Florence is obviously the star of the band clearly. What's really interesting about it is when I went back to have a look at her earlier interviews and then listening to her do an interview that she did with Zan Lowe on Apple, again, on Apple Music, you know, my favourite one about the old Babs, that he did an interview with Babs. Anyway, she did an interview with Florence and it was equally as good.

He's kind of obnoxious and annoying me a little bit because he sort of keeps telling her who she is. But other than him being obnoxious, she's great. Anyway, but it's just really interesting listening to her talk about how at that time in East London because she was just a raging, I don't know if she would say an alcoholic, but she definitely had a massive drinking problem and drugs and all kinds of things and she would just run around East London in these like very kind of,

in sort of very fragile vintage dresses that would fall apart by the end of the night. She had kind of like bar soot and stuff all over her legs and she would be like just wild, just running rampant through the streets of London in this scene of other musicians as well. And what she talks about in the interview is really interesting, that at that time they were all coming up in this scene of other musicians as well. And what she talks about in the interview is really interesting that at that time they were all coming up in this band scene. Yeah.

And she's probably one of the only bands that's actually gone on to become, you know, global stars. That is true because a lot of those people just kind of not disappeared, but you know, you hit a certain point. Exactly. And she also talks about how there was a point where she didn't think she would make it past 27 because of her anxiety and her addiction. Also, she had an eating disorder as well.

But she talks about her creativity and her songwriting as this kind of beast that she feeds constantly and kind of needs the art of performance to keep her going and get her through. And it's become the longest, strongest relationship she has in her whole life outside of any friendships or romantic relationships. But now she's in her 30s and she's started grappling with the idea of whether or not to have kids and how that looks and whether she should be leaning into domesticity.

But then also she's a beast of performance and loves performance and kind of she she'd say how she could be deathly hung over and be have no idea how she could even stand but then the thought of performing would just bring her to life and she would always be able to perform no matter how much she'd had to drink or what she'd taken and so stage health yes it's different than that as well though, you know. Yeah, it's also about kind of just the art of where songwriting comes from. I find that really interesting.

She kind of talks about it as almost being a totally different person. Right, okay, yeah, yeah. Which I find really interesting too. You know, the idea that she feels like songs just come to her fully formed sometimes. Anyway, this new album she wrote, she started it four years ago really and then had written a couple of songs in and then the pandemic hit. Yeah.

And what's so interesting is that kind of what was keeping her mental health going and everything about her was performing. Yeah, right, okay, yeah. And that was completely stripped away from her. And so it's interesting to hear that kind of turn in the album as well where she goes kind of introspectively into her own psyche, I guess. And what that does to someone who their whole life is about being on stage and being in front of audiences and that was almost a spiritual,

is a spiritual practice for her and not having that and not ever knowing. And you kind of forget very quickly how at the point it felt like none of that would ever come back, you know, the way that we thought it would, that we were just going to forever be living in this kind of digital half-life and not be able to get into real places. The most depressing thing was the virtual concerts. Oh, my God.

They'd have them on like Fortnite and they had other things as well and it's like get a ticket and you can watch a virtual show. So depressing. Boo! Yeah, So depressing. Boo! Yeah, so depressing. Like why would you do that? You would just listen to an album, you know what I mean? Or just watch a performance on YouTube or something.

Yeah, it's just so depressing. God, I'm glad that didn't take off. I know. Terrible. But also I'm just glad that actually we're able to go back and do those things. And that's what she kind of celebrates in this album as well. It's the most introspective of the albums and very articulate. I guess she's writing it sober as well.

And it's really interesting. She writes about her anxiety. So there's a couple of the songs that are my favourites. One is called Free and it's really about her anxiety. And Bill Nighy plays her anxiety in the film clip. Ah. And it's a really cool film. It's actually weirdly set in Ukraine as well with a Ukrainian artist.

Just by like pure happenstance? Yeah, before the – so she dedicates it to the artists of Ukraine. Yeah. I think they filmed it in the December before everything happened. Imagine if she didn't. She was like, this is not for Ukraine, this is for me. Anyway. Anyway, it's just – it's a beautiful song and it's just about how dancing

and performing frees her from her anxiety momentarily. There's also a really cool song she released ages ago called King, which is one of the first she wrote for the album, and that's about she watched a lot of horror movies to get in the headspace for this. So recording and writing and producing in the studio, she'd projected all these horror movies onto the walls and you can hear it in the sound kind of clips

that they've got through every song. So you can hear the movies in the background. Yeah. It's like, ah, I'm being murdered. Ah, it's Jason. I'm in the movie Jason X, the one in space. Is that a horror movie? Which one?

Jason X. Yeah. Yeah. Jason X is the one where they go to space. What? They go to space. It's set in the future. They find Jason's body and it gets reanimated and then it gets super

upgraded with nanotechnology. I hate this. I hate this so much. I'm not to tell you. No, there's just a lot of like eerie, creepy sounds that they've obviously sampled. And it's terrifying because it's – especially King, the actual film clip is so cool and weird.

And she kind of comes in as a spectre and then murders her husband or partner basically. Oh, no, you were telling me. You were showing me this. Yeah, and then she's like dancing with all these like dancers who are kind of dressed like medieval witches. It's so cool. Anyway, I just think she's incredibly powerful as a performer

and also as a vocalist and she's just so cool and awesome. And the other song I really love, which I think is a massive dance number, is My Love, which is also really cool. But part of the theme of it, and I'll stop talking about Florence now, but the other really cool thing is she of the theme of it, and I'll stop talking about Florence now, but the other really cool thing is she writes, it's called Dance Fever, and the reason it's called Dance Fever is because there was a phenomenon back in I think like the 1600s or something where people just started dancing and couldn't stop and it spread.

What? Yeah, I know. And I don't know what that was about, whether that was some kind of, I don't know, disease that like got into their nervous system. I don't know. I don't think what that was about, whether that was some kind of, I don't know, disease that like got into their nervous system. I don't know. I don't think it's that. Anyway, it's a story about people actually, you know, coming under the spell of this dance fever and not being able to stop dancing.

Anyway, so it's quite kind of sinister in nature in a way but kind of amazing at the same time. It's interesting that did you ever address that temporary split with the Machine during the Rage Against the Machine period of the band? Was that like something that maybe there's been a... Is that a joke? Is that a joke that you're trying to... What?

What are you talking about? Just answer my question. Are you making a pun? You're making it funny. You're familiar with the band Rage Against the Machine. Yes, I know. Was that a joke? Was this a big funny joke?

They do the song that goes, We built this city. we built this city. We built this city. She briefly mentions the Rage Against the Machine split. It's quite awkward actually. I bet. I feel sorry for them. She really throws them under the bus.

You know what? I'm sick of Rage Against the Machine since they recently went political. You know what I mean? It used to be just about the music. Yeah, I know. Everyone's a sellout, aren't they? No, no, no, but they didn't used to talk about politics and now it's all about politics, Claire. Oh, I see.

Yes, it's actually true. Listen to this. There was a dancing plague in 1518 which hundreds of citizens of Strasbourg, then a free city within the Holy Roman Empire now called France, danced uncontrollably and apparently unwillingly for days on end. The mania lasted for about two months before ending as mysteriously as it began. Okay. And look, there's pictures of them dancing. Look.

Like little goblins. So they didn't sleep? No, apparently not. They just danced for two months because you would die. I mean maybe they took drugs or something that would do that. I don't know. That sounds like absolute bullshit to be honest. Well, it sounds like bullshit to you because you don't like dancing.

But maybe even worse, James, imagine you don't like dancing and then you were just flailing about. I don't like dancing so much. And everyone could see your terrible dance moves. That's true. But I don't like dancing so much that that would not affect me. Okay. My anti-dancing immune system would suppress it.

And I simply would not dance. Here is a fact about you. You dance like you can't hear the music. Yeah. I dance like I don't want to be there, which is true. No, but you dance like when you actually do dance. Yeah. Like we went to a wedding a couple of weeks ago and you were dancing

like you couldn't hear the music. But I appreciated that you would dance with me. Yeah, well, I also thought you were tired. You didn't even want to dance. You're like, let's just sit down. The music was very loud. It was very loud. I know, but also I was tired.

I'm just so tired currently. Anyway, moving along, Dance Fever album, Florence and the Machine is very cool. Your turn. Okay, cool. Well, I'm going to talk about a show that I actually meant to talk about last year. Dance fever.

I put it on my list, right? Yeah. But then I left it for so long that season two is currently out. It's called Made for Love. It's an adaptation of the Alyssa Nutting novel of the same name. And here's the premise. A woman is on the run after ten years in a suffocating marriage to a tech billionaire

who has implanted a monitoring device in her brain allowing him to track her, watch her and know her emotional data as she tries to regain her independence. This is horrible. Yes. So it stars Kristen Malotti who, do you know her? I can't remember. She's the mother in How I Met Your Mother. She ends up being the one.

Oh, yes, yes, yes. She's great. Oh, I like her. She's really good. Yeah, she's really good. She's the mother in How I Met Your Mother. She ends up in the one. Oh, yes, yes, yes. She's great.

Oh, I like her. She's really good. Yeah, she's really good. Billy Magnusson as the like the tech billionaire Zuckerberg Musk weirdo type guy. I'm sorry. I'm just fending off a dog as I'm explaining this. And Raymond Romano is her father who you might know from Ray,

Everybody's Raymond, whatever it's called. Yes, yes, I know Everybody's Raymond. So anyway, so what happened in like they had this real whirlwind romance, you know, 10 years prior and he's like, I'm a billionaire. I can show you all sorts of crazy things. What he's done, he's built this pod in the middle of like the desert. Can you hear that plane? It's a big helicopter.

What is happening in this episode today? I don't know what's going on. That was so low. I felt like the plane was going to land on our pod studio. It was a helicopter, I think. Gosh, what is happening in this episode today? I don't know what's going on. That was so low. I felt like the plane was going to land on our pod studio. It was a helicopter, I think. Gosh, what is happening? So basically they live in this enormous pod that can simulate any environment. So basically you go into a room and the walls are so like they're so high def

that it looks like you're at the beach or you can be like, you know, in the snow or whatever. Your favourite thing. No, I don't like that shit at all. What do you like? To live in. Because you always tell me 3D is like something, not 3D, like virtual reality is your ultimate aim.

No, wait a minute. I don't like virtual reality. I've talked about this. No, you've talked about how you always wanted to virtual reality. If it was flawless. Wasn't this flawless? Flawless? No.

Flawless? Because it's like a wall. So like, you know. Isn't that what virtual reality is? I'm confused. I want a limitless space, Claire, of virtual reality. Do you mean? That's life.

I want life, Claire. But you don't have to leave your house. But then you would have to leave your house if you needed a limitless space. I just want to just have a regular life where people would leave me alone. I was in a sauna today, right, Claire? I was in a sauna. Why were you in a sauna? Because I took a swimming lesson and then I do some laps. So you went to the sauna? And then I went to the sauna after. And it's every time I go in there, there's like a fucking million old guys in there. That's the whole rule of saunas. I know, Claire. Anyway, and they're just like, anyway, when I go to the gym, this is kind of

exciting. I don't like free weights. I use cables. I just want to be like, hey, shut up. Just don't say anything. Just like can we all just sit in silence? Just fucking shut up. But I can't do that because it's communal space, Claire. You know what I mean? They're allowed to talk.

What are you expecting there though? Yeah, just shut up. It's even worse when they try and talk to you. It's even worse, Claire. I cannot think of anything worse than sitting with half naked – It was technically a steam room, I guess. Gross. And everyone – it's all men just like sweating it up.

Tell it to Joe Rogan and his giant nipples. He loves a steam. Talk right into Joe Rogan's giant nipples. I would if I could. I'd say, shut up. Shut up, Joe Rogan. Wow. Why. I would if I could. I'd say, shut up. Shut up, Joe Rogan. Wow. Why are your nipples so big?

And also, why do you have so many terrible people on your podcast? Why does everyone listen to you? I don't understand. I think he's a free thinker and I think everybody who goes on is great. So we are. Whoa. There you go. Wow, he's really.

Jesus. They're like two little fingers pointing out of his little chest. That's all right. Look, I want it to be known that the reason I don't like Joe Rogan has nothing to do with his finger nipples and much more to do with the fact that he has some terrible views that he spreads and misinformation. Or is it actually about the finger nipples?

It's the nipples. I think everything he says is cool and true. Anyways, Mason. God. I mean Claire. Wow, this is getting into a weird territory. The thing about this show is it's very funny and, like, you know, a bit like Black Mirror-esque.

Also, she's done a Black Mirror episode, actually, I believe. Has she? I'm pretty sure she has. I can't watch that show. It makes my heart hurt. While it's coming back, they just announced another season. In 2020, Charlie Brook is like, I don't want to do Black Mirror. I'm so sad.

And now he's like, pandemic's over, baby. Black Mirror's coming back. Wasn't it because it was too close to real life? Yeah, it was just like everything's so sad all the time. It's also like, you know, it's upsetting in parts, but it's not like upsetting like God is so depressing. No, it's very upsetting. It's more like quirky and the leads are great.

Like everybody's really cool in it. I have to get you to watch the episodes and then tell me which ones I can handle. Oh, which one? Well, apparently there's going to be more than last season, which was three, and they're going to be even longer, Claire. Cool. So there you go. No, it's very good writing.

It's just it can sometimes make me feel so depressed. Yeah, like it's hit and miss like anything. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. Well, it's more just that sometimes it's so dark and twisted and awful and very close to the truth of things. Oh, she's in that awesome like Star Trek episode of Black Mirror. She's in a really good one, Kristen Miloti.

I'm like, she was in one. Couldn't remember which one she was in. Yeah, cool. Good stuff. Anyway, it's on Stan in Australia. It's on a different thing in a different country. Look it up. Look it up.

What am I, Google? Look it up. Some people are like, my podcast app isn't working. I don't know. I don't know what phone you've got. Look it up? Look it up. Some people are like, my podcast app isn't working. I don't know. I don't know what phone you've got. Look it up. Look it up. Don't talk to me in a spa or sauna.

Leave me alone. Joe Rogan, do something about your nipples. Leave him alone. Let him have his big pointed nipples. Let him have his Madonna-esque pointed nipples, Claire. What I don't understand is why is he the guy? Because he's an everyday bro. He's like a self-appointed leader of the bros.

Why is he the bro? Bro Jogan. He's just like having a good time of it. I just don't get it. He's just like, I'm just like you. For as long as I live, I will not understand men, particularly straight men. I just will never understand you. Mays in particular.

No, just all of you. Because I love Jogan. As a whole collective. No. Mays in particular. No, just all of you as a whole collective. No. He tells the truth. Sometimes someone comes on and the guy's like, I think this, and he's like, that's true. And then someone else comes on with a different opinion.

He goes, that's true. It's almost as if he's just an information. Like a bendable reed. Yeah. He's a bendable reed. He'd be like that. Who knows? Anyways.

Bending in the wind like his little nipples. You should watch Made for Love. I think it's really good. And you know what? It's always good to see Ray Romano as well. I like Ray Romano. I like it when he shows up because I'm like, you don't have to do this. You've got like $100 million.

I know. Which means if he's doing it, it means he either likes it or it's a good thing or whatever. I mean, he's great in Ice Age. He is good in Ice Age. He's so funny in that. Underrated series. Big fan of Ice Age movies. Yeah.

Just quietly, just pretty good. You know what I mean? Yeah. Pretty good movies. And they always make me cry. I don't love two. I don't love two. I like the one where they visit the dinosaurs.

Yeah, that's cool. I like the one where they, it's pirates or whatever for some reason. It's just very strange. It's a very strange series of movies. Started off returning a baby and then, I don't know, the cobbots got into the earth and they're pirates or something. Then the mammoths get married or something. Yeah, and then there was, because originally there wasn't really any mammoths

because they were extinct and now there's lots of mammoths. But what we do know about ice ages, though, they're all going to die because the ice ages are going to end. Cool. Yeah. Excellent. Anyways, what's the last thing you're going to recommend? You're depressing as a human being, aren't you?

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Product availability varies by region. See app for details. All right. The last thing I'm going to recommend, it's so good. My friend Sharda recommended this to me. Does anyone want a dog, by the way? Does anyone want this dog? She's just barking at Ollie. God, we're going insane.

Anyway, my friend Shana recommended this show, which has been going for ages, like four seasons. So everyone's been watching it for a long time. I don't know where I've been with it. Anyway, it's called Call My Agent. Oh, yes. It's a French one. There's actually also an English version,

but I'm really enjoying this French one. In French it's called 10%. Deux pour cent. No, that's the worst accent in the world. What did you just say there? I was trying to say 10% in French. That's what it's called. Anyway, so it premiered on France on the 14th of October in 2015

and the series depicts talent agents at the fictional agency Ask, that's Agence Samuel Kerr, who was kind of the owner of the agency and then in the very first episode he dies. And so then from there the agents kind of, they're kind of partners in the business and they're kind of constantly trying to keep it afloat and it's about that and then their relationships with each other and also with their actors who are their clients. And what's really cool is they're often played

by real French celebrities playing themselves. Yeah, exactly. Sounds like my favourite show and then movie, Entourage. Yes. I love the show Entourage, Claire. I'm a big fan. I think it's the best show ever made. It's just bros.

That's my favourite thing, just bros. Okay, stop yelling about the bros and holding your dog. I'm a big fan. I think it's the best show ever made. It's just bros. That's my favourite thing, just bros. Okay, stop yelling about the bros. I'm wrestling this dog. She's trying to bite me. This is the dog wrestling episode. Okay, so it was created by Fanny Herrero and it's starring Camille Cotton, Thibaut de Montalbeur. Oh, gosh, I'm really butchering the French names today.

Gregory Montel, Liliane Rovere, Fanny Sidney and Laurie Calami. Just say it's got a bunch of frogs in it, mate. Anyway, there's lots of French actors. It's wonderful. It's really, really great. It's super funny. It's quite poignant in lots of places too. And it's also just a really fun look at the behind the scenes

of like the Cannes Film Festival and the kind of relationships between actors and their agents and you get to see lots of behind the scenes of different films, which I think you would actually really appreciate. Not French films. I don't care what they're up to. All right. But no, it's more just about, I don't know,

because they also deal with like actors and directors and writers as well and that's kind of really interesting too. I don't know. I'm just really enjoying it. The chemistry between the cast is really good. And what I also really love about it is the stakes are always really low because it's like wealthy actors and wealthy agency. So there's never anything like super violent.

Sometimes the episodes are really weird or very surprising and actors have like very, you know, like very funny or odd or twisted ways about them or, you know, the agency's always trying to keep afloat. But in the end, if the agency fell over, oh, well, it's just like very wealthy French people, you know, looking for another job. But I just love that.

It's just what I need at the moment and it's super funny and interesting and it also says a lot of stuff about creativity and what it means to be an artist and how to kind of deal with people who are creatives and how insane they kind of are but in a great way. I don't know. It's very sexy too. There's a lot of like sexy things that happen in affairs and, you know, lots of smoking a cigarette.

I didn't know you could do that on a television. Drinking whiskey and all the things. Yeah, I know. Do you think I'd enjoy French Entourage? I actually really do think you'd enjoy it a lot. Yeah. I mean, the only problem with it is obviously subtitles. God.

And you like to do other things while you're watching. And I actually, this is the sign of the thing, right? Like I really am enjoying it because I'm forced to put my phone away. Yeah, gotcha. Because you can't watch it unless you're, you know, paying full attention. Let's put the English dub on, mate. Let's put the English dub on, mate.

So terrible. No, and also what I love about it, which is what I'm looking for at the moment in shows, is escapism to somewhere cool. Yeah. And the way they depict France, it's just great. Well, I'm going to recommend a show, Claire. Okay. It's called Entourage.

Vinnie Chase, mate. It's about the best actor in the world, Vinnie Chase, right? He's the best actor in the world. To be fair, I enjoyed the first couple of seasons of Entourage. Yeah, I think there's definitely an entertainment quality to Entourage. Correct. If you can get past the fact that it's actually a fucking terrible show. Who's his mate who's always like, oh, he's just trying to do things

and now I'm feeling better. You know who I'm talking about? His best mate? Yeah, that's everybody in the show. No, who's the one? You're talking about his cousin or brother Drama. Oh, yes, Drama. That's right.

Oh, my God. I kind of feel affection for him. And then there's Turtle and then there's E and then there's Ari. That's right. And then there's all the women they churn through. Yeah, I really hated that. Every episode going, you did it, Vinnie. You're the best actor in the world and we're billionaires.

That's the end of every episode. That's basically it. All right. Cool. Awesome. Entourage, what's your second thing? My second thing is a show called The Wilds, Claire. The series revolves around a group of teenage girls who are left stranded

on a deserted island after a plane crash. But unaware, lo and behold, who knew that it's actually they are. You're not going to believe this. Gary, come on. Brace yourself. Get to the point. This is actually a social experiment. The crash, you find out very early on, was in fact a staged crash

and they are being monitored closely for perhaps nefarious purposes. Are both of your recommendations about women being monitored? Yes. Are you trying to tell me something? That's right, Claire. So it stars Sophia Ali, Shannon Berry, Jenna Claus, Mia Healy, among others, and of course the great Rachel Griffiths, Australia's own.

Oh, I like Rachel Griffiths. So if you enjoy the show Lost, but they tell you what the mystery is straight up, if you enjoy The Lord of the Flies. Yes. And maybe even Lord of the Fries. Or Yellow Jackets. This sounds a bit like Yellow Jackets. Yellow Jackets as well.

Less spooky than Yellow Jackets, though. It's got kind of a supernatural kind of bend to it. So the premise of like why they're on the island, like they explain it, like why the whole experiment is happening. I'm like I get it but like I don't think that there'd be any outcome and I won't like spoil it here specifically while they're there but it's a little like this wouldn't, like when this got out, like it wouldn't, people would be like, oh, that's awful.

Like whatever experiment you're running would be invalidated by the fact that people would be like, yeah, you can't do that. Like that's illegal. You should go to jail for all the things you did. But look, the writing, the cast, the island situations that they put in, that's ultimately really the strengths of the show, right? And there's also like your perspective on each character shifts because, you know, you get a bit of flashbacks and, you know,

they flesh out more of the characters about who you like and don't like. There's an episode that just Ben Folds is there for some reason. Ben Folds is in the episode. I'm like, I like Ben Folds. Yeah, I like Ben Folds a lot. He kind of sometimes pops up around the tracks. He certainly does, Claire. The second season focuses on another set of survivors

who are teenage boys, right? And I feel like those characters are less compelling than the girls. But the second season also, like, focuses on both of them more, but there's another group of survivors as well. But it's very compelling and I'm very much enjoying it. I just finished the second season and apparently there is going to be a third season coming up. What's it called again?

It's called The Wilds. The Wilds. Oh, I've seen this being advertised. It's on a little service called Amazon Primoz. Amazon Primoz. Yeah. Primoz Primoz. There you go. Okay.

Excellent. All right. I'm going to check that out. I wanted to also mention one extra cheeky little recommendation. I thought we agreed that we weren't allowed to do that anymore. What? No. I never agreed to nothing.

I like how you're wrestling a dog. You can't handle it. Zippy, come over here. Zippy, go see James. I have to tell them something. We took her for the longest walk, a proper bush walk today. Yeah. I don't know. Okay, so I wanted to talk briefly about my friend Bianca,

who is a painter. I shared some of her stuff on Instagram. They're just the most beautiful paintings. Agreed. She's also a printmaker and she was in a previous life, formerly trained as a milliner at Kensington and Chelsea College in London, finishing with high distinction. So she's also a gardener and a lot of other things.

She's this super creative, wonderful person. But I'm just loving the work that she's currently doing at the moment. So it's all very much themed around botanicals. And her artwork, you can kind of see she's got beautiful imagery around fruit and plant life and, you know, just very simple kitchen things as well. But they're just such gorgeous prints and she's super clever. So I totally recommend going to see her work over on Instagram. That's Bianca Haran, H-A-R-R-I-N, contemporary painter and

printmaker. Would you say, Claire, that if you wanted to see such wonderful pictures, which I know you do and have and I have, that would be below. Collings would put that in the show notes. Yes, he would absolutely, yes. Could you buy a picture if you were so inclined? You absolutely can. So she's got her artwork up there for sale as well, which they would make lovely gifts I think too.

And they're really beautiful. She gives you an idea of what they look like on the wall with the images as well. Oh, cool. That's great. And I'm always about supporting local artists too. You know that about me. Not me.

No. But you know what I am about? What are you about? I'm about supporting podcasts. And you can do that by listening to a dog bark in the background. It is so amazing. While I tell you that you can review this show just in app. This is from Emin Silva who says, lovely pair, lovely podcast.

Just love listening to these two. That's a five-star review just in-app. You can do it just like that and it's done. It's incredible. Can you believe it? It's so amazing. I can't believe it. I know.

So clever. That's so sweet. I love it. Well, if you want to, you can also email the show at testforpod at gmail.com just like Jonathan Snyder has. What a legend. Hi, Claire and James. Love the pod.

Made my way here through Big Sandwich. That's our subscription service. If anyone doesn't know and you would like to sign up, we would absolutely love you to. It helps us out. We'll let you. For the cost of a Big Sandwich, $9 US a month. That's right.

Anyway, thanks for all the content. I recently started listening to Taunts and I love it. The conversation that you are having over there, oh, I really appreciate this email. I know it sounds like a little bit self-indulgent. It does sound like you wrote this email, yes. What was this person's name again? Jonathan Snider?

Yeah, that's made up. No. That's a made up person. Anyway, the conversations that you are having over there are very important and I have a feeling they will reach people and change some lives. Mate, that's so nice. Thank you. Why doesn't anybody ever compliment me like that?

People are just like, you have dumb opinions and you're an idiot. And that might be true. That might be true. It's probably because you've got a bigger audience, James. When the audience is big, people are mean. Boy, that's true. Anyway, as I've said before, we have the best listeners in the world. Anyway, I have a suggestible for you, says Jonathan.

It's a podcast called The One You Feed. Otherwise known as James Cle world. Anyway, I have a suggestible for you, says Jonathan. It's a podcast called The One You Feed. Oh, otherwise known as James Clements. What? You don't feed me. I made dinner tonight. How dare you? Yeah, I know, I know. You tell people that people are going to be thinking that I don't cook no meals.

No, he cooks many meals. I cook, I kick one meal. Right. We really lost it tonight. This podcast has got derailed. Anyway, the title is based on a parable that James is always making fun of on his other less successful podcast. The topics that they cover remind me of taunts

and I definitely think it's worth a listen. Keep up the good work, Claire. You're going to change the world. Thanks, Jonathan. That's very lofty goals. And what did he say about me? What did he say about me? Not much, mate.

Sorry. Oh, well. What do you do? What do you do? I guess you move forward.. Sorry. Oh, well. What do you do? What do you do? I guess you move forward. You do. You can shoot a Gmail. What is this?

Suggestiblepod at gmail.com. Thank you as always to Royal Collings for editing this week's episode. Good luck, my friend. There is many a dog causing havoc. I'm so sorry. I agree. Long-suffering, that man. I agree.

He does a great job, though, as always. Also, thank you to Maisie, who is currently doing at Suggestible Pod Instagram and also Tons as well. She's great. Yeah. Wish I had an Instagram. You do. I wish I had an Instagram.

I wish there was a way. Instagram, the first video of which is just a dog with a bone. Is it? Yes. It's a podcast dog sniffing around a bloody bone. You don't understand Instagram, or do you? Maybe I understand it too well. I think so.

Anyway, that's it. That's us this week. Oh, you're going to love this, Claire. Did you know this? No. It's the 20th anniversary of Star Wars Attack of the Clones. Do you want to watch the entire thing now and you can do a reaction? watch the entire thing now and you can do a reaction.

God, give me strength to accept the things I cannot change about my fucking family. Because now there's another version of you that is just, and all you do is talk about it and you showed our son. You just watched The Empire Strikes Back. And it like blew his tiny mind, which was super cute. He knew the twist, but he didn't know that Luke Skywalker lost a hand and he was like, what is happening? Oh, my God.

Yeah, he was standing up, wasn't he? It's a very violent thing to witness, actually. It's a very violent thing to watch. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's only six. That's a lot. It's a good movie, though. I've seen that movie like 100 times.

I'm watching it and I'm like, this is a fucking good movie. This is the funniest thing to me because you're sitting at the kitchen table and you said that and you're like, it really holds up, man. It's a good movie, man. And in my head I'm like, no shit, man. You've been talking to me about Star Wars for fucking however long we've been together. You love it.

You love it. I've been watching like the prequels and I'm like, they're just not the same. No. I know a lot of people are like, those prequels are actually good. Sure. Okay, let know a lot of people are like, those prequels are actually good. Sure. Okay. Let's get out of here.

I have to ask you this question though. Is it comforting to know that even though the world was ending, Star Wars is still just as good? Some of it. I mean, like Star Wars is like anything. Like some of it's good, some of it's bad. What was it like to watch it through our son's eyes? It was interesting because you pick up on things that like,

that they pick up on. You know what I mean? There's a moment and I know it happens but there's eyes. It was interesting because you pick up on things that like that they pick up on. You know what I mean? There's a moment and I can't, I know what happens, but there's a bit where like Darth Vader like nearly like beheads Luke Skywalker. He's like walking up a corridor and he's kind of ready. And then he just like steps out and just like nearly takes his head off. And I'm like, yeah, that's pretty intense. Yeah.

That's so intense for a six year old. And when the bit where he's like, where he's like asking him to join and our son's like, don't do it. Don't do it. Because he hasn't seen Return of the Jedi yet. So he doesn't actually know. He thinks that like it could go that way. You know what I mean?

Yeah. And he's like, you just can't. And then he said to me, it is so cool because there's so much learning in it, right? And he was like, you have to really believe in yourself. Yeah, you can lift the X-wing. So you can lift the X-wing. And I was like, yeah, that's definitely a learning in it, right? He was like, you have to really believe in yourself. Yeah, you can lift the X-wing. So you can lift the X-wing. And I was like, yeah, that's definitely a learning for life.

And he's like, no, it's just about Luke. Yeah, what are you, an idiot? It's in the movie. Don't try and teach me anything, Mom. Anyway, cool. It was really sweet, actually. I shouldn't make fun of it. It was great.

Anyways, I'm never going to show him the next one. That's where Star Wars ends. Han Solo froze and Luke Skywalker loses a hand. Is that the best of the movies? It probably is, but I really like The Last Jedi, which you like as well. Yeah, I do. I love that. I would say most, not most, but there's a very large vocal piece of the fandom

which hates that movie. But I actually think it's terrific. I think it's really good. I really enjoyed it too. But then, you know, I'm not wedded to it. I am wedded to it. You are. Technically, yeah, you definitely are.

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