Suggestible - Eddie Murphy was in Shrek

Episode Date: July 25, 2019

Suggestible things to watch, read and listen to hosted by James Clement @mrsundaymovies and Claire Tonti @clairetonti.This week's Suggestibles:LongshotGrowing Food the Italian Way by Fabian CapomollaComedians in Cars Getting Coffee (with Eddie Murphy)This American LifeTAL: Save the GirlTAL: Invisible Made Visible2019 Fundraiser with Live Show/Q&A Rewards - chuck in a buck?Follow the show on Instagram and Twitter @suggestiblepod or visit www.planetbroadcasting.com. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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What do you want? Some things that we've watched or whatever? We got that for you. We got so many things. We've got at least four things. We have. I've got lots of gardens and recipe things today. Oh, my God, Claire.

Okay, well, I'll try and avoid that so that people will actually have something to look forward to. Gotcha. Oh, bloody got him. Okay, you old boot. Will I use that again this week? I don't know. Apparently you will.

There was some great fan art about that. I enjoyed it. Me too. It was great. All right, enough of this BS, you old boot. You get to go first because I've made a rule that it's gentlemen's first. And I appreciate that rule because it puts me right on the spot. Good, that where I got you, where I like you.

This movie I'm talking about, it's still in cinemas. It's very aggressive. It's still in cinemas. Not me. I'm bloody aggressive. But it might be. Claire, you said gentlemen first. I'm bloody aggressive, mate. I'm getting in there. And's still in cinemas. Watch me. I'm bloody aggressive. But it might be. Claire, you said gentleman first. I'm bloody aggressive, mate.

I'm getting in there. And now you need to bloody. Hurry up, James. I'm trying. You're being so slow. Well, you're not being very suggestible. We're boring everybody's ear holes off. So it's called Longshot.

It's still in cinemas, but I think it's going to streaming next week. So if you do want to see it, you can probably just wait a week. It's only at select cinemas in Australia anyway. Yeah, it's been out for ages. It's been out for a very long time and it bombed hard. Which made me so sad. I know, because it's great. It's one of the, it's probably the funniest movie I've seen this year, though I haven't

seen many comedies. Oh, that's a big call. Yeah. Because you're sad and depressing. I'm sad and depressed, but also most comedies aren't good. You think that. You just say that because you see a lot of comedy. I think you've overdone comedy.

You know how if something's delicious, like my sister, when she was a kid, ate too many Dim Sims out of a packet and now she can't eat them? That's because Dim Sims are shit also. They're absolute dog food. No, if you don't eat them very often, actually now, yeah, they are. No, I've always hated them. All right.

Always and forever. Anyway, I think you've overdosed on comedy. No, I think just wanting to watch a good thing. That's not my fault, is it? All right, bloody get back to your suggestion, mate. Anyway, so it's Seth Rogen and Charlize Theron. And the idea is that the Charlize Theron character, whose name I can't remember, or the Seth Rogen character's name,

so I'm just going to call them the names of their real names. She is running for the 2020 presidential campaign. Woo! And she brings Seth Rogen on board as a speech writer. And they knew each other from when they were kids. They had an awkward encounter when she babysitted him, babysat. Babysat, which sounds kind of weird, but yeah. And he thought she was real cute.

That's right. And like, and really, you know, she had good morals and she's all about recycling and whatever. Same in the world. Bees, trees and seas. Bees, trees and seas. And she was three years older than him. So obviously nothing ever happened. Nothing in the world. Bees, trees, and seas. Bees, trees, and seas. And she was three years older than him. So obviously nothing ever happened. Nothing weird or creepy.

There was an embarrassing event. And then they run into each other again many, many years later. And it's a romantic comedy, I guess. But what I also liked about it, it was nice to see like a competent leader, like world leader, even if it's fictional, because we just got, you know, there's the UK situation which just unfolded. With Boris. Our country, obviously.

Who Trump came out and said was the Trump of the UK. What a stunning compliment. They both have very crazy hair going on. Yeah, I don't know whether that's what's going on there. Anyway, it's neither here nor there. So it's just a good, like it's a solidly funny movie. I like the dynamic of, they talk about it in the movie, but it's like the opposite of like a pretty woman situation.

Yeah, because he's very Seth Rogen basically. Yeah, and funny, but a bit of a mess. His life's a mess and he's like a journalist that's got, you know, really like serious left-leaning opinions about everything and then he, but he gets kind of fired or he quits. But they also kind of address that, like it's not, you know, where he kind of realizes that he should listen to other people, you know, who have other opinions also. Yeah, be more open-minded.

So if you're worried that it's like, this is just going to be some bloody leftist propaganda, bloody German. Bloody soy boy over there. Down, down, not the right or whatever. I mean, yeah, it is that, which I like. But it also does address the other side of things. And also, the real president in this universe, or the current president, is someone who played a president

on television on kind of like a West Wing knockoff kind of situation and is looking to get out and move into movies. So he's just this guy who shouldn't be there and everyone's kind of covering for him. Gosh, that sounds like such a fictional universe. I know, what a weird coincidence. But so it's very, it's like it's tightly written and it's very funny. And again, I like the dynamic between the two of them.

They're both really funny and they play off each other really, really well. The chemistry is great, which is surprising because Charlize Theron is like a goddess and Seth Rogen is Seth Rogen. Sure. But he's so funny in this and I think he's very charismatic. He is, yeah. And so you really, even though she's so together and clearly so smart and hardworking and just like Amazon, you really believe that she would fall for him.

Yeah. And the dynamic's just really great. And there's also things that they address about the difference between if you're running for president as a female candidate or a male candidate and things you can and can't say. And like, well, if I say this, I'm going to come across as angry and shrill. But if I kind of show any emotion, then I'm weak. And it's like this whole, it's like this real balancing act of like, and I know this is

how it works. There's like, you know, they, they poll them to say like, well, you're 82% in, you know, in humour, but we think we could bump that up or whatever. And there's like a Justin Trudeau character that, you know, is interested in dating her, who's the president of Canada, who's also turns out to be a pretty funny, pretty funny, got a goofball character in it. Not intentionally, but I mean, it is intentional because it's written that way. Yeah, yeah. But it's just a really great, fun movie.

Yeah, it is. But there's some also serious lines running through it. What I also thought was great is that you see in order to be someone like a woman as the president or run as a candidate, just the sheer amount of work that goes behind the scene to make you look a certain way. Like she's doing, like she wakes up in the morning or she's, you know, she was rehearsing a speech and she's doing like arm curls or whatever to. Yeah, exactly.

Putting ice spoons on her underneath her eyes so she doesn't look puffy. You know, just, and like the hair and makeup and all the stuff that she has to do in order to, you know, be presentable. It's, yeah, it's just a great fun time. I'm really glad that you liked it. I saw the movies by myself. I wanted to see it much earlier and I didn't, but I'm glad I ended up catching it. So

look, like I said, it's out. I think it's streaming next week. I'll look it up. Yeah. Long shot. Long shot. Long shot. Get it up ya. Get it up ya. Shoot it right up ya. Shoot it in your eyeballs. Okay. What boring gardening thing you got for us? Oh gosh, I've got so many fun things. Okay. My first one is a book.

It's called Growing Food the Italian Way by Fabian Capamola. I gave you that book. You did for Valentine's Day last year because you know me. Well, because you said I want this book. I don't know when I'm going to remember. Was that this year though? It was last. No, it was this year.

Mate, this year's feeling long. It was February this year. It was February this year, yeah. Mate, that feels like a long time ago. We're only in July. Here's a trick for those listening who want to buy things for their partners and have got no idea. Oh, here he goes, the insider.

Every now and then they'll say something just in passing and you write it down in your phone. You're like, ooh. And then when it comes around, they're like, oh, my God, I can't believe you remember. But here's the thing you didn't remember. You just knew at the time to write it down and then hope they didn't buy it between then

because that's also happened to me when you're like, I want this thing. And then I get it. And then, then you get it. I'm like, ah, she's ruined everything.

All that time that I bought tickets for a musical for my mom for Christmas. But I'd also said that I want to go. And then you bought tickets and it was the whole thing. That was this Christmas. Was that organized though? Did we organize? We all went together. Yeah,

that's right. But like you, you. Didn't I, oh, that's right. Cause I ended up coordinating't I? Oh, that's right. Because I ended up coordinating with. I can't remember.

Yeah, there's a blog where. What musical was it? I can't remember. Oh, but that we hated as well. Oh, Evita. Don't cry for me, Argentina. Evita was terrible. Sitting next to you in Evita, the musical was so hilarious because you hated every single

second. And you're a musical man. I love musicals. You're a musical man. Evita went for a hundred thousand years and there's that one song, but everything else is, the acoustics were too, oh, my God. It blew me away, like the opposite of like in a good way. It's like, wow, this is bad.

Why do people like this? This is quite crap. Yeah, it was. And I love all musical theatre and just couldn't, I was so ready. We love the movie Cats, for example. I really, for anyone that didn't see, we had a live show on Sunday. James wore cat ears when he came out and it was a bloody goddamn brilliant time. It was a bloody hoot.

And I'm glad I put them on like a minute before I came out because otherwise I wouldn't have done it. Anyway, sorry, you're reading a book about guardians. Exactly. Oh, and if you want to donate to our charity campaign for that and listen to that whole recording of the live show, you can. I'll put the link in the show notes for suggestible. Anyway, back to growing food the Italian way. It's a book about exactly what it sounds like. It's just really the A to Z of how to grow veggies and fruit in your garden.

But it goes into really simple language. And it just explains things like what is sunlight and why you need it and what is soil and what's the best composition and how to make a no-dig veggie patch, which is what I'm doing. What is sunlight? Well, as in not like we all know what sunlight is, but as in what type of sun and why you need sun. And how long for each plant. Correct.

Exactly, because sun's really, really important. And that's a thing that people often get wrong. The sun's overrated, mate. No, but it's just really important. Sun's a thing that people often get wrong. The sun's overrated, mate. No, but it's just really important. Sun's had it too good for too long. Oh, God. Here he goes. The sun's cancelled.

I can feel a rant coming out of mouth, the sun. It's only because you're a paler's pale. That's true. And you get sunburn easily. The sun is my enemy. You are. You're a little Irish potato farmer who's not used to seeing any sun. I'm really not.

So it talks about the best position for your veggie patch to make the most of the sun because if you don't have sun, you can't grow good veggies. Yeah. And look, I'm not interested in this stuff at all, but I do think it's so important to like eat locally grown stuff and pesticide free. And because it's really, it's like, it's messing up waterways and people's health and digestion. Can I get this in writing? Because I wish I tried to talk to you about it, you're like, ah!

No, but it's more effort. And also, when you go to buy that stuff, you're like, this apple looks like absolute crap. Like organic. Yeah, because the stuff that they sell, like, you know. It looks so perfect and shiny and beautiful. Yeah, but the actual organic ones taste better. Yeah.

Yeah. They just have, like, wormholes in them. Whatever, you cut them out. Yeah. You're a real man. I'll eat a worm. I don't care. I'll eat a worm on this podcast.

Protein. Yeah, man. You're all about the protein, mate. That could be our first ad. You're F45 in it. Yeah, I am. I endorse worms and eating them. You do.

Correct. Exactly. All right. Anyway, back to my thing. Sorry. So it's just really great. It's done by Fabian Capamola, who is an entrepreneur and started a company called The Little Veggie Patch Co.

And he created a nursery and he did a pop-up patch in Fed Square in Melbourne. He does a podcast now and he started a new site called The Hungry Gardener, which is just really cool. He talks to people about how to grow stuff and have chickens in your back garden, which is something else we're doing. I'm so excited. So if you're a gardening nerd like me or you've just always thought about having a veggie patch in your garden and wanting

to grow more stuff yourself because it's one of the best things you can do for the planet. And you don't need that much space, do you? No, you really don't. You really don't. I'm boring James now. Even though you've bought six veggie patches now, but we had a smaller one that you were.

Correct. And we're layering up a no-jig Veggie Patch and it's so much fun. I'm making James shovel shit. That's right. It's good for you, mate. Go back to your Irish potato farming roots. That's true. Correct.

Except for the sun thing, which I don't know. All right. Anyway, it's just a really good- Can you stand over me with a big umbrella? Yeah, I better. Although it's a little garden- The sun is very aging, Claire. Everybody knows that.

The sun is just constantly attacking us. It's too late, mate. Your hair's already grey. The secret's out. Everybody knows. The sun is very ageing, Claire. Everybody knows that. The sun is just constantly attacking us. It's too late, mate. Your hair's already grey. The secret's out. Everybody knows. The sun got my hair. It did. Oh, lordy.

Lucky you got your rejuvenating shampoo. Thank goodness. And I've just told everybody. Anyway, yeah, highly recommend that. And also his website is really cool too. Head on over there. Hi, I'm Jessie Cruickshank from the number one comedy podcast, Phone a Friend, which I strongly advise you listen to. You know what else I suggest you look into? Becoming a host on Airbnb.

Did you like that segue? Thank you. I recently started putting my guest house on Airbnb when I'm out of town, and I didn't realize how easy it would be until I did it. If you have a spare room, you could Airbnb it, or your whole place could be an Airbnb. It's a great way to make a little extra money by doing not a lot, which frankly is my mantra in 2024. To learn more, go to airbnb.ca slash host. Done. This is something that I recommend with a caveat. A caveat? A caveat, no. Is caveat fish eggs? Yes. All right. So you recommend it with fish eggs? Sure. Okay. I recommend the show with fish eggs. You look so tired today and angry.

Because I just, Comic-Con, man, it just, it's a huge weekend. We had the live show in Comic-Con. That was not my fault, by the way. I know. It was my fault. And I coordinated 11 videos to put out. And look, to be fair, I didn't edit them. Like I recorded them and then sent them over.

And then I'd been progressively releasing them over like three days and all the metadata and stuff and all that stuff that's not interesting. It's just little things that I'm so glad that those guys did. Anyway, it's not that you know that. You told me today that your YouTube channel is like a garden. It is like a garden. You have to keep tending it. A garden that also insults you constantly. With death threats.

Tells you that you're bad at things and your accent sucks. Much of that, you went out to your gardener, it's like, you suck. Where are you from? Speak English. F you. You like those other roses better than me. Yeah. It's pretty good.

But it's Comedians in Cars Getting Coffee. This is an old show. It's streaming on Netflix. I don't know if it started on Netflix. This is your next suggestible. Yes. Ah, you moved right along. People probably know this and I'm in two minds about it,

because sometimes it can be great. So comedian Eddie Murphy, no, Jerry Seinfeld. I am going to talk about Eddie Murphy. Jerry Seinfeld takes a car, whether it be a classic car or a new car, and he goes and picks up a comedian, and they drive in the car, and they chat about comedy and life, and they get a coffee, and then they go home. It's very low effort for Jerry Seinfeld.

I mean, why wouldn't it be? He's got enough money. So it just seems like it's a fun thing, like a personal project he can do, like a podcast or a garden that screams at you. So a lot of the times, and I'll just quickly talk about the negative stuff. There's things like it's a lot of like someone gets in the car and will be like, yeah, you can't bloody say anything anymore. This culture and these millennials and, you know,

like we grew up in a time when you could say and do anything and whatever and good on you. It's like, great, okay, but things are different now, you know what I mean? And I know that cancel culture thing can obviously go too far, but it just a lot of time it just sounds like back in my day kind of shit, you know what I mean? Correct, exactly.

Back in my day you could pinch a woman on the bum at work and she'd like it. It's not like that explicitly or anything like that. No, but it's about jokes and what you can and can't say. But the thing is, though, and I've said this before, I think you can genuinely joke about anything. But a lot of the time when they're like, you can't say anything, it's like, but it's boring.

Like the things that you're saying are boring and not controversial. It's just dull. You know what I mean? Correct, yeah. It's like this is an old kind of hack kind of bit. Yeah, Ricky Gervais loves to talk about this a lot Correct. Yeah. It's like, this is an old kind of hack kind of bit. Yeah, Ricky Gervais loves to talk about this a lot. He does.

He's like- Your favorite man. No, that's the thing, because I'm not going to get into Ricky Gervais, but he's like, I'm an atheist. What do you think? Everyone's a fucking atheist. No one cares. It's not a big deal.

It's really not. Yeah. I know. Look, I really liked Afterlife, his show on Netflix. I know you didn't. No, I'm hot and cold on it. Like, but I think. You're good, mate.

Joseph loved it too. He did love it. Yeah. But don't get me wrong. Ricky Gervais has done some really good stuff. We'll talk about For the Office and whatever. But there's that thing of like, did I offend you kind of thing? It's like, no, it's just dull.

Like it's just dull. And yeah. Yeah. But anyway, and there is a Ricky Gervais episode and it is interesting. You know what I mean? But there is like, he did one this new season. There's a Seth Rogen one, which is great. There's an Eddie Murphy one, which is really interesting

because Eddie Murphy kind of disappeared from the comedy scene and hasn't done stand-up in like 20 or 30 years. And he talks about why. Oh, is that? Because I thought it was because he went and had kids and did those terrible kids movies. Well, he did. He did do that.

But he talks about the reason why was because one of the last times he was on stage like decades ago was he was just like, I could say anything and it wouldn't, and it would get a laugh. Like it wouldn't matter. Like there was one time I stood there in silence for 10 minutes and people just laughed because he just wanted to see whether he could. And he's like, there's no challenge in it. So now he's thinking about coming back to it, but he's got two particularly iconic stand

up sets from the eighties, Roar and the other one. I can't remember. about coming back to it, but he's got two particularly iconic stand-up sets from the 80s, Roar and the other one. I can't remember. Is Roar the one where he wears the purple bodysuit? There's a purple suit and there's a red suit and whatever. And look, some of that stuff is very dated, but it's classic comedy. And homophobic. Oh, yeah.

Isn't it terribly homophobic? In particular. That's what I was referring to. But he's talking about coming back, but he's kind of like, well, I don't even know how to, how would I even do that? Because people film everything now, so you can't even, because he's Eddie Murphy, he can't even kind of practice a set and kind of get a good set of jokes.

Everybody's got a camera. Yeah, because also, what do you even know what's funny or not funny anymore if you're Eddie Murphy? Because you get on stage and people are like, well, this is Eddie Murphy. This is great. Going to be hilarious. But then again, maybe it's because it's not or not what anymore, if you're Eddie Murphy. Because you get on stage and people are like, well, this is Eddie Murphy. This is great. It's going to be hilarious. But then again, maybe it's because it's not the 80s anymore,

then it would be you'd get more honest feedback because people in the audience don't necessarily know who you are, if they're a younger generation at least. Oh, they know him as the donkey from Shrek. Yeah, but even then, like. People would still know Eddie Murphy. Yeah, but they don't know his stand-up is what I'm saying, and they don't know the history.

Yeah, that's true. But like Coming to America... Coming to America. They're making a new one. Yeah, I mean, that's... I think the thing with Eddie Murphy is even though he might not have done stand-up for so long, the body of his work is still being watched and watched by each generation.

And the thing about Eddie Murphy was that I realised watching this, he's still very funny and very sharp. Like he's still quick on his feet, you know. He lives in, like he's obnoxiously rich but he kind of, he seems to like, he likes being alone in his quiet time and whatever but he loves his family and he talks about that kind of stuff, how he got really upset when like one of his kids moved out, he goes and cries in his room or whatever.

And it's just, it was just interesting because you don't really see Eddie Murphy anymore. And I know there was a period in the nineties when he was kind of depressed and he was doing Beverly Hills Cop and, and like, he's like, I used to be like the biggest star in the world. And he was in the eighties. He was huge. Yeah. All these movies did phenomenally well.

But then by the, I remember I saw an, I think it was Bronson Pinchot. Is that his name? He's a guy from Family Cousins. You're real struggling. What are the – they're perfect strangers. Oh, yeah. Balky. He's Balky.

Because he worked on Beverly Hills Cop 3 and I remember having a conversation with him. I remember reading this interview and Eddie Murphy was kind of like, yeah, nobody kind of cares who I am anymore. And he was kind of in this kind of slump. Yeah. And that was the period where he did like Doctor Dolittle and a bunch of kids' movies and things like that. But I just thought it was really fascinating that this guy,

because he started so young, like he started in the 70s with like Cosby and Pryor and all these other comedians and actually Jerry Seinfeld at the same time. And he's never had anything weird, controversial other than his like homophobic statements and stuff in the 80s which people got away with it. None of that is acceptable. No. But it was a different time and people didn't understand AIDS at all.

Yeah. Because he talks about in it he was worried like if you kiss somebody that you get AIDS from them. But that was also an era when there was a lot of misinformation. People didn't know. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. And it wasn't being dealt with properly by the government

and all these other things. I'm not excusing it. I'm just saying it was a – you kind of need to look at it in that context, I guess. That's actually something really interesting that Ricky Gervais does talk about, that because everything is filmed now, right, something that you say now that's filmed or back in the 80s because it's filmed, in 30, 40 years, you can look back on it

and sort of see that that person is saying something really controversial or not okay. And even though that person, like the Eddie Murphy of the 80s, would never say the things that he said in Raw, for example, maybe. Or at least in public. Or at least in public. Because, you know, there's things that you would say to friends that you would never say.

Correct, yeah, exactly. But we are now watching things things assuming that, you know, maybe we can't grow as people or, you know, I don't know. It's just an interesting age. It is. And there needs to be like a level of like context and forgiveness and kind of where is that person now and do you know what I mean? And like there definitely needs to be that.

But then there's some people like Bill Cosby who's just a fucking flat out monster. And a criminal. And a criminal. And he even talks about Bill's some people like Bill Cosby who's just a fucking flat out monster. And a criminal. And a criminal. And he even talks about Bill Cosby and how Bill Cosby used to kind of belittle him because he saw it as like a rival comedian. Like other upcoming comedians who were white, he didn't care as much. But Eddie Murphy used to always be on his back and he'd call him and like chastise him

for swearing and things like that. And you're making the community look bad and you're embarrassing yourself or whatever. Meanwhile, he's raping like literally hundreds of women. So it's this whole, it's just this fascinating. And he talks about like Richard Pryor who was kind of like, like Richard Pryor had his own demons and problems, like spousal abuse and cocaine and things like that. But he was kind of the opposite of Cosby to him. Yeah.

Wow. Sounds like, so this is comedians with cars? Comedians in cars getting coffee. Just watch the Eddie Murphy one. Yeah. Okay. Jerry Seinfeld. Yeah. Because I've tried to watch some episodes and not been so into it Getting Coffee. Just watch the Eddie Murphy one. Yeah, okay. Jerry Seinfeld. Yeah, because I've tried to watch some episodes and not been so into it.

Yeah, I'm very hot and cold on it. You know what I have re-watched, though? Seinfeld. Yeah. I've just been re-watching Seinfeld from the beginning, and I bloody love that show. And I know that's not a suggestion. Like, everyone loves Seinfeld, or not everyone, but most people. But it's just so fun.

It's just a fun, ridiculous time. And Elaine is brilliant and I love her so much and it's awesome. But yeah, okay, I would definitely have a look at that. That sounds really super fascinating. Love Eddie Murphy. Used to watch Raw all the time. Brilliant. I hated most of his 90s movies.

I hate Doctor Doodle and that one, The Nutty Professor. Shrieks good, but that's not 90s. That's 2000s, isn't it? Yeah, I think it's 2000s. Yeah, I think. Well, anyway, cool. Okay. Daddy, daddy.

Moving right along. Oh, Lord. Awful. Okay. My suggestible, so it's my turn again. I'm ready. This one I think you might be surprised about. I don't know.

It's a podcast, obviously, This American Life, which you obviously know. It's very famous. I've never really heard it, but I obviously know it. Correct, exactly. Well, it began in 1995 in November, on November 17th. Oh, it was a public access radio show. Yeah, so it's Chicago Public Media and it's a public radio show. So it's broadcast across America and it's one of the very first

really famous podcasts. A lot of people see it as quite an iconic show. It's hosted by Ira Glass. It's brilliant journalistic nonfiction. Did he say just make the thing? Was that him? He did. That was him.

I've got this amazing quote from him where he just said it took him the longest time to figure out that to get good at something, you just have to do it for a long, long, long, long time. And be bad. Yeah, and be bad. It's so difficult now because everything stays up online forever. There's things that I've made in the past that were available i feel like no one would ever take me seriously like those videos you did when we were in africa yeah things like that yeah

i was like filming you while you were standing in a field of wheat or something because i was going mad overseas yeah correct because i didn't bring any video games oh god it was so fun it was quite funny those videos anyway they weren't seen a light of day. Or like my starring role in Cats the Musical when I was eight or something. Did you have it in the show, man? No, definitely not. In an orange bodysuit. That is never seen in the light of day. And it's on a VTR, so it's okay.

So, obviously, This American Life has over 600 episodes. So, I mean, if you're a podcast listener. Well, Mason and I are coming up on 300, so let's not. We didn't start in 1995. Well, there you go. Okay. Well, these guys have a really high standard, though, of podcasting. Oh, you're good.

I don't know. I see how it is. Over 80% of their interviews never make it to air, James. Really? Yeah, yeah. So that's how exacting they are. Are they weekly? Surely not.

Yeah, they are. Really? Yeah. But they have a really big team around them. Yeah, right. Obviously you'd need to. But they work so hard. Like it's won so many awards because of the journalism and just the excellence.

So they've got a standard format for the show. It's obviously usually around a theme from gloomy to ironic, thought-provoking and humorous. And it starts usually with a prologue and then it goes in acts. So it has act one, act two, act three. Sometimes one episode can just be one whole act. It just depends. And the journalists are brilliant.

But I wanted to recommend you specifically one episode and really just the prologue of an episode because I know you're a time poor over there, Mr. Sunday Movies. You've got no time and you're aging fast. So I don't waste your ear balls. The sun is just banging at my door just coming to get me. I just said ear balls. I meant ear holes.

No, you meant ear balls. Okay, I said ear balls. Anyway, the episode I'm recommending is a recent one. It's called Save the Girl. And it's really about a whole lot of different ways that kind of the society loves an innocent girl being saved. Yes. You know, they just love that. They love that idea of an innocent girl being saved. Yes. You know, they just love that.

They love that idea of an innocent girl being saved in all different ways. It's a story as old as time. Yeah, definitely. From Cinderella to, you know. And you look at things like horror movies, the trope was like the girl who was a virgin or whatever and she's nice, she's the one who escapes at the end,

you know what I mean, and the couples that are having sex get murdered. Yeah, yeah, correct, exactly, because she's usually young and beautiful and innocent, like a Cinderella type, Snow White type, Sleeping Beauty type girl, and she gets saved. Anyway, this episode begins in the prologue with a look at Final Fantasy VII from 1997.

I've never played it. Do you know what I'm talking about? I'm well aware of Final Fantasy VII. All right, okay. And the girl specifically in that who gets murdered and everyone cried about it. Yeah, it's still a thing. People are still blaming her.

Yeah, is it Eris? Eris? Eris? Eris? I don't know. Eris Gainsborough, who was a flower seller in this game. But they just kind of look at how all of these boys and men, really, who were playing this game were super invested and all cried.

Like so many of them cried. And why did they cry? It's fascinating. Well, it was a story that wasn't, but they talk about it. I can explain a little bit. Yeah, you can talk about it, yeah. Yeah, it was because it was a new kind of era of video games of 3D and storytelling because it was the whole lot

of 16-bit side-scrolling like Mario games and then this and a couple of years after you get something like this, which is this big sweeping fantasy tale. And it's kind of naff by today's standards, but, yeah, it was kind of the benchmark of, benchmark of video games at the time. It was Japanese, right, and then remade? They still make them. Yeah.

I think there's one coming out this year. There's one coming out. They're remaking it, yeah. Yeah, yeah. So it was created by Yoshinori Kitase and Hironobu Sakaguchi, which I probably murdered those names. But anyway. That was perfect.

That was origato. anyway. That was perfect. That was Oragato. Okay. Oh, God. Designed by Tetsuya Nomura. Yeah, because we did an ad for the – yeah, he did the music, didn't he? I know. He did all the artwork. Okay.

Then he ignored that. Cut that out, Collings. Yeah. I don't believe that's why. Yeah, cut that out. No, definitely not. But anyway. Oh, we did do an ad, though, for a video game.

We did, because the music is also really iconic as well. Yeah, that that out. No, definitely not. But anyway, so we did do an ad, though, for a video game. We did, because the music is also really iconic as well. Yeah, that's right. I know, because I listened to it, because they play a bit where she dies. Because basically this beautiful, innocent girl who's very sweet, who's got piercing green eyes and beautiful long flowing hair, just gets stabbed through the chest with a sword and dies. Sephiroth, maybe. I can't remember.

Who knows? And Cloud, is it Cloud Strife is the main character who like is shocked and is supposed to protect her. Well, I had Cloud Strife written down, but who knows? And apparently on the screen the words come up, she will no longer laugh, cry or get angry. And she's voiced by Mandy Moore. Really?

I didn't know that. I know. Who also voices the Princess Entangled. Yes, she does. She's awesome in that. I love her. Great job by Mandy Moore. Really? I didn't know that. I know. Who also voices the Princess Entangled. Yes, she does. She's awesome in that. I love her. Great job, Mandy Moore. Anyway, just that's a really interesting episode.

So it's only 10 minutes, that prologue, but it's just a really kind of- It is. It's Cloud Strife. Wow. It really is. Yeah, yeah. They interview like a gamer who was maybe 13 when it came out. Which would have been like my age as well.

Yeah, exactly. So now he's in his 30s and he was super invested. So it's interesting because the girl, the journalist, originally got into this because her brother apparently cried when the girl dies, but he refuses to admit that he cried. And so she like goes to interview someone else because he won't admit on recording or tape that he actually cried, but she remembers him crying. The thing is, though, I never liked those games.

Oh, what? Whoa, we're going to get so much hate mail now. I don't care. I don't like them. I don't like RPGs. There's too much time and investment in them. And you go, like, get the crystal and put the spell in, it's turn-based and whatever. I know there's amazing craft into it, but that's never been my thing.

Is that like Zelda? Is that the combo? It's way more complicated than Zelda. All right. But yes. Because I liked Zelda. I liked the Ocarina of Time. Yeah, it's a good game that I never played, but yeah.

Oh, I loved it so much. Anyway, so that's- But you didn't like Majora's Mask. Not so much. Because you couldn't beat it or something in the timeline. No, it's so frigging annoying. You have to keep repeating. I hate doing things all over again.

I hate that. Anyway, another episode I'd recommend of This American Life is my favorite one, The Invisible Made Visible. It's really interesting. It starts with a guy who's blind. He's looking for a phone in a hotel room to call his wife, and he can't find it. He goes to sleep, wakes up in the morning,

and then miraculously where he was looking on the table, there's a phone, even though he said he felt over the entire coffee table and there was no phone. Yeah, but did he? Who knows? Anyway, it unfolds from there. And then there's another story about a man who's blind. It's like a fictional story?

No, they're all real. all of these stories are true they're journal they're sort of true fiction true stories and then the second the first act of it is about a man who's blind um and there's a bear involved and he's trying to teach his daughter about what it's like to be blind right and there's a bear in it it's just really great story i story. I won't spoil any more of that. Do they do that kind of foley thing where they kind of put the sounds around you kind of? They can, yeah. They do a little bit.

Not hugely, but they do have, they're very good in this American life at layering the sound. They record in different places. They interview in different places, you know, outside in the woods or in homes or they often do phone calls. So it's a very atmospheric podcast. I don't always love it. Sometimes I'm not in the mood for it.

But those two episodes really grabbed me. So I highly recommend them. And they will be linked below by Collings. Thanks, Collings. You wonder, kid, person, man, human. All right. We've come to the end. We're at 29 minutes.

Oh, my God. Do you have anything to say? Any other things over there? I have nothing to say and I won't be back. Any reviews to read? Actually, I do have a review. Oh, God. Hurry up there, man.

Okay, this is from Shrek and Donkey, actually. You can just review this on your app. It says, beautiful podcast. James will always have better chemistry with Mason. Sorry. But in reality, I love the podcast. Yeah, that's fair enough Well I have known Mason for longer than you

You have got some You have known Mason longer than me You've got delicious chef's kiss chemistry Chef's kiss you say Yes correct exactly Interesting you chose not to marry Mason You chose to marry me instead though We weren't allowed to at the time were we

Yeah this was a different time It's a different time Back in the 80s I didn't meet him in the 80s. Oh, and also, any recommendations from anyone? Oh,

I don't have anything. I forgot to, sorry, it was just me at a really busy time. Yeah, hang on. While you're looking for that, Simon Morgan sent in some fan art of You Old Boot.

Oh yeah, that's so awesome. Thank you, Simon Morgan. All right, I also have a recommendation. What do you got? From Gregory at GG, yeah, that's so awesome. Thank you, Simon Morgan. All right, I also have a recommendation. What do you got? From Gregory at GGritmon.

Thanks, Gregory. I recommend the book An Absolutely Remarkable Thing by Hank Green about the world's reaction to a strange phenomenon and one woman's struggle with overnight fame. The story grips and doesn't let go. Ooh, I want to read that. That sounds good. Grips and doesn't let go because at one point you'd want it to let go, wouldn't you?

No, James, never. I always want my books to grab on and never let go like a leech. That sounds bad. Well, eventually leeches let go, I guess. I don't know. Yeah, they fill up on that. Like a barnacle on the side of a boat. You've got to chip them off though, don't you?

All right. Shout out to Daniel Hamm as well who wrote in on Twitter and said, thanks for recommending I Am Mother. So good. And also thank you to Claire Yu for recommending David Tenn, thanks for recommending I Am Mother. So good. And also thank you to Claire Yu for recommending David Tennant's podcast, reminding him of that. Oh, that was a good one. And then there's a gif of Austin Powers doing a salute.

Oh, I salute you back, sir. Thank you very much. And you too, Mike Myers, Austin Powers. Correct. Exactly. All right. This has been Suggestible Pod. You can find us on the Twitter at Suggestible Pod,

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Thank you, everybody. And thank you, Claire. You old boot. Thank you. I'll see you next week, Claire. Old sunny Jim. We don't talk during the week. We just do this half an hour.

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