Suggestible - Goth Knows What He's Doing

Episode Date: December 17, 2020

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We can wait for clean water solutions, or we can engineer access to clean water. We can acknowledge Indigenous cultures, or we can learn from Indigenous voices. We can demand more from the earth, or we can demand more from ourselves. At York University, we work together to create positive change for a better tomorrow. Join us at yorku.ca slash write the future. Join us at yorku.ca slash write the future. So we're married. What up, dog? And I'm hoping I don't have COVID. I don't think I do. You probably don't. We're COVID free in Victoria currently. Oh, well, hopefully.

Unless it's me has started it. Could be you. You could be the ocean zero. Yeah, could be. Or it's more likely that I went on boozy boozing on Saturday, which I never do. Yeah. Mum's gone wild, mate, out on the town. I think I've seen that video.

Consists of me drinking three glasses of Chardonnay. Is that all you had? No, I had a cocktail tea. Wow, four drinks. It was called Secret Garden. I love cocktails. It was actually really delicious. You would have loved it.

It had whiskey in it. Yeah. Whiskey and like elderflower and it was orange with a bit of Aperol. It was actually a delight. I'm glad you enjoyed it. Yeah, I really loved it. I'm glad you're still paying for it five days later. Yeah, I know.

That's what's happened when I'm 35. And I get crippling anxiety as well with the hangover. And it lasts forever and I always get sick. You're just a bit dusty, would you say? Yeah, but the dustiness is extended. Plus now I'm sick. That's what happens. I think I'm okay because I drank a lot of water.

Plus I had an espresso somewhere in there. Yeah, right. Anyway, this is not interesting to anyone else. It's not interesting at all. So let's get on with the point of the show, which is recommending you stuff. Would you like to go first or would you like me to go first? Yeah, I'll go first. Let's do it.

I'll go first. All right, James, strap yourself in. Oh, my God. Get your balls ready. Get my podcasting seat belt and airbag ready. And balls ready. And my balls. As I said. My podcasting balls. Yeah. Question on a side note, balls retreat, right? Into your body. Not like, I mean, yeah, I mean, not like, like just like up slightly. It's not like, they don't go fully into your body. Or maybe some

people's do, but mine don't. All right. Okay. Because this is a question that I had. Do they retreat because of temperature or do they retreat when, like, you're scared? It's like – I think it can be both. What?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's just like a protection thing. What? Because they're technically your most, like, your body perceives it as one of the most vital moments. Vital components. Vital moments. But it is a vital moment because it's all about, like, procreation, Your body perceives it as one of the most vital moments, vital components. Vital moments.

It is a vital moment because it's all about like procreation. Whether or not you want to have kids, your body is still like protecting your balls at all costs. I see. Yeah. So really your balls should be like in your skull. There should be a thick layer of bone around them. But they're very exposed. Such an odd thing. I've always thought that was a really odd thing that you've just got an organ

that hangs out there. But so vulnerable. I don't know what to tell you. Wiggling around. And it moves without your own volition sometimes. Well, it's not something you can like control. It's like a finger. No, it's not like a finger.

Imagine if it was like a finger. Gross. I don't know why. It just suddenly occurred to me that I thought that was quite interesting that like they'll retreat if it's cold but also just like if you're scared, they'll like go in a little bit. Yeah, I'd have to think about that. I can't think of a specific example but I'm pretty sure that's the case, yeah.

Like it'll make you fall. Because I'm not like, oh, I'm scared. And then I look at how my ball's like that's not. And they've like gone back, they've squirreled back in there. Because if I'm scared, I'm not looking at my balls. They're like, James, let us know when it's safe to retreat to like, you know, drop back down again. If I'm scared, I'm not looking at my balls.

I'm looking around for danger. You know what I mean? All right. But would you cover your balls while you're doing it? No. Get your hands free. All right. Because you've got to protect other parts of your body as well.

Oh, yeah, true. Other vital organs. Like your nipples. Yeah, they're very important. That's right. Imagine if you had retreating nipples. Imagine. Yeah, true. Other vital organs. Like your nipples. Yeah, they're very important. That's right. Imagine if you had retreating nipples. Imagine. What a world.

Imagine. What a world. Pointless for me. Yeah, true. But, you know, interesting. Anywho. Yeah, really interesting. All right.

Hang on. I'm just going to let the dog out. Who let the dog out? James. James did. He let it out. This is a real waffle of a start, everybody. I hope you're doing well.

I hope you're all right out there. We're sending you lots of love in old COVID land, wherever you are. And he's back. He's back in action with his balls intact. I don't know why I'm talking about balls so much. Who knows? It's my cold. I'm trying to push through.

I don't know. Okay. So my story. We should make this a quick one and you're like, what if we talk about balls for five minutes? Hey, everything is content. I guess't know. Okay. We should make this a quick one and you're like, what if we talk about balls for five minutes? Hey, everything is content. I guess it is. All right.

So here I go. My two recommendations this week, ironically, are both from people called Nat. That is so ironic. I know. Now, because I've had a bit of a balls of a week, don't mind my pun. That's not a pun. It's not anything.

Well, anywho, and I'm not feeling so crash hot. Haven't been able to read very much. Also, it's been Christmas time and we've been allowed back out of the house. I've had like a thousand things on, like seeing people, which I haven't for so long. I know my sparkling witch and personality takes a lot of energy to maintain. I'm pretty low energy a lot of the time. Shock. But it's, you know. People would be shocked to find that out. But I know what you mean. You go out, you've got to maintain a certain like.

Level of energy. Yeah. And so by the time I get home, I have literally not even got the energy to watch anything so I fall asleep except for short videos on Instagram and the YouTubes. I still don't understand TikTok. I know there are people gaspinges. I still don't understand TikTok. I know there are people gasping everywhere. I just don't use it.

Nobody who listens to this show is gasping that we don't go on TikTok. I enjoy TikTok but I watch my TikTok videos on Instagram. That's very whatever generation you are. We're not millennials. Are we millennials? We're millennials. It's like old millennials. Are we millennials?

We're not millennials. Are we millennials? We're millennials. It's like old millennials. So my first recommendation is, this is going to make me sound like the old millennial that I am. Her name is Natalie Angel. It's an Instagram account called Let Me Try Before You Buy. Now, it has about 80,000 followers and growing.

She only started it this year. And it began from a Facebook marketplace kind of sort of thing that she had going where she would sell clothes, like her old clothes. And she started creating little videos for women to show them what the sizing was like and the material and the fit, all that kind of stuff. And she very quickly realised, because she's a size 16, which happens to be the average size of a woman in Australia. Yeah, I'd believe that. Size 16, 14 to 16. And so most of, and it's changing a little, but really most of the targeted campaign advertising that goes

into clothing over here, and I'm assuming really globally, is directed at women size 8 to 10. Yeah. And often for young women as well, even if the brands are for older women or just women who are like over 30 and who have had kids as well and your body changes so much after you have kids. Yeah, so women are a size 14 to 16 generally, but they're not advertised to.

And particularly I think this year because everyone's been doing a lot more shopping online, online shopping for women is just severely lacking and often highly stylized in the way they advertise if they do advertise in videos. And it does really not give you a really good indication, particularly if you're a women oversized 10 who struggle with finding things that fit your particular shape. Because I think there's a myth around there that women generally have this one sort of boobs, tiny waist, hips kind of thing going on. And women come in all different shapes and sizes.

Like trees. Like trees and snowflakes and other things that are unique, like fingerprints. Yeah. Women are like fingerprints. They are. That's genius. We should put that on a t-shirt. We're always found doing crimes, found a crime.

I don't know. He's really scrubbing the bottom of the old proverbial barrel. Anyway, and I identified that in myself. So she started, Natalie started making videos and became like quite unique in her Instagram style in that she only does videos and they're quite casual. They're filmed in her home and she will go through a rack of clothing and just try on different things for a size 16 figure

and show you really great tips and tricks about how to make it work depending on whether you're an apple shape or whether you're an hourglass shape or whatever shape you are. If you've got big boobs or little boobs, all those sorts of things. What if you've got boobs on your back? Well, she doesn't have a video on that, so really I should stop recommending this one. Maybe I'll start an account for women with boobs on the back.

You don't have boobs on your back, so you can't. I didn't feel like you'd be the good voice for that. Don't let my dreams be dreams. Okay, well, your dreams can be dreams. You can have surgically. I can be anything I want. You can surgically get boobs grafted into your back. Oh, Lord.

Anyway, what I love about her, and I've just been, when I'm really tired, I love watching her videos. She calls you babe and just kind of, I don't know, there's something about her. I think it's just seeing a woman who's a figure like mine. Do you reckon I could call you babe? Definitely not. Do you reckon I could be one of those guys?

Definitely not. Babe, look at this. We're just not that family. Babe. No, no. Can I continue you, babe? Who can I call one of those guys? Definitely not. Babe. We are not those. Babe, look at this. We're just not that family. Babe. No, no. Can I continue with my recommendation? Sure, babe. Jesus.

Oh, Lord. Little does she know I'm calling her babe like the movie Babe. Sorry, go on. La, la, la. That's right. Excellent. Deceptive marketing for that song because he's actually doing the whole Christmas theme. It's not just doing la, la, la.

He does like the whole thing. Anyway, go on, sorry. Okay, right. It is a really good movie. We watched it with us. Yeah, anyway. So what I love about Natalie is that her tips and tricks, but more to the point, while she's showing you different clothes

and ways to wear them and lengths of things, like she also goes really deep into brands that have great sizing ranges. So often brands will have like a size 8 to 12, right, which is ridiculous because when the average woman is size 14 to 16, you're completely missing the mark there and then women end up having to just wear big potato sacks half the time because things don't fit properly. And you end up eating more potatoes to get more potato sacks. It's so annoying.

Which adds to your. Just because you're just like a standard man with a standard man size. I'm not a standard man. You don't understand the struggle. It's so linked into our self-esteem and how we feel about ourselves. And I'm getting serious now. So drink your bloody cola drink with zero calories and let me say my bit. And I think particularly after women have kids,

their self-esteem starts to plummet through the bloody floor because you just don't see your kind of figure represented anywhere. And it's so damaging. And I think as well, it's kind of subtly sabotaging because it's sometimes overt, but often the messaging is subliminal. It's not like big signs saying, you're weird, you're a size 14 to 16, you don't belong. But it's that feeling that you get when you go into stores that I have to, there isn't really anything in here for me. Or women who are sizes that are larger than that too

and all should be celebrated of whatever size they are. So she often chooses brands that are a size eight to 22, which is so inclusive. And there's no kind of shame around what size you are. And this is stuff you can order online as well. Yeah. It's all what you can order online. You can even in a lot of these sites, like there's one called Bird's Nest online, where you can actually put in your type of shape of body as well. And then they'll give you recommendations for outfit choices. And so all of that is so inclusive and wonderful and it's about celebrating you at the shape that you are,

in the colours that you are rather than wearing a black sack and trying to hide away. And so she kind of gives you this really wonderful message that you're beautiful in the shape that you are now because often the other dangerous thing women do is we just torture ourselves and think, well, I won't buy anything nice until I'm X size. Okay, yeah, yeah. You know, this isn't my real size.

I don't deserve to wear something that's a bright pattern and a cool color and makes me feel good because I won't be this size and I shouldn't be this size. Yeah, yeah. And what happens then is that sometimes you can spend years just losing yourself and wearing stuff that makes you feel like crap because you- Maybe forever. Yeah. And you see that women, it does happen with their self-esteem. It's like this kind of cycle, you know, where I think we should be valued for what we can do rather than what we look like. However, there is something really empowering about putting stuff on that makes you feel good that can support your self-esteem

and that's cheerful and colourful and bright and Natalie really goes into a lot of that kind of stuff, patterns and colours and not being shy, like not shying away from clothes and trying to just fade into the background. So anyway, I just love her and I love those videos and they're really inspiring and have made me want to change my wardrobe a little bit. Have you noticed I've been wearing more colour?

Have you noticed, Jukka, you're looking very colourful. Thank you. It's made me feel better about my life. Unlike the potato sacks you used to wear beforehand. Anyway, so that's let me try before you buy anything. No, I definitely noticed that. Yeah, you've got some really nice clothes at the moment. Yeah.

And I just bought them online and I used the measurements and the sites that she recommended and it's just made me feel good about my post-Pregobold. Excellent. Okay, your turn. I'll read my thing out now. I'll talk about my thing. This is actually recommended to me by Mason.

I finally got onto it over this last week or so. It's called The Detectorists. It's written and directed and starring Mackenzie Crook. You know Mackenzie Crook? He's Gareth from The Office. Ah, yes. The real skinny guy. He's alsoenzie Crook? He's Gareth from The Office. Ah, yes. The real skinny guy. He's also the guy with, for people who don't watch The Office,

he's the guy with the wooden eye from the Pirates of the Caribbean movies. That's where I know you. He's in that as well. He's got a very classic bowl cut. He does. That was something he had for the show. That's not something he has in real life. Oh, really?

No. Though he does. I remember watching some behind the scenes Office stuff and he was filming that show while he got married. So he's got a bowl cut in his wedding photos. But so this show, it stars him. It stars Toby Jones, who, do you know Toby Jones?

No. You'd know him if you saw him. He's been in like Doctor Who. Would he know me if he saw me? Yeah, he'd definitely know you. He's in like Truman, especially in all your bloody beautiful clothes. My colourful, bright outfit. This guy, you know this guy? I know him. He's in like Truman, especially in all your bloody beautiful clothes. My colourful, bright outfit. This guy.

You know this guy? I know him. He's great. Yes. He played Truman Capote. Yes, he did. He's like an evil Doctor Who in his mind in one episode or whatever. Anyway, it also stars Rachel Sterling and her mother, Diana Rigg.

Do you know Diana Rigg? Yes. Yeah, she recently passed but she's in like Game of Thrones and Doctor Who and the original Avengers TV series and a bunch of other stuff. Anyway, she's fantastic. So Andy and Lance, they're friends who share a passion for metal detecting. And although they act like old, I'm reading this, by the way, although they're acting obviously, they're acting like an old married couple

griping at each other. There's a true bond. Oh, it sounds so bloody familiar. Oh, my God. True bond between the two and they have a common dream, finding a priceless collection of items that would cement their place in detecting history. So it's essentially about these two guys in their, like, mid to late 40s

and they live in this small country English, like, town. And there's a murder in Midsummer. No, it's not like that. Midsummer murders. It's, like, super low stakes and it's literally just them. A lot of them is just them in the field with metal detectors, just, like, having conversations is just them in the field with metal detectors just like having conversations is looking for stuff and often they just find like uh like nails and like tin cans or whatever but they're looking for like the thing and there's like rumors of like there might have been like a burial ground there because you know the english countryside or

england in general it's just like a thoroughfare of like history and different invaders and you know i mean and and you know it's because it's been there for, it's always been there. But do you know what I mean? There's like, there's thousands upon thousands of years of history just like beneath the surface, do you know what I mean? So that's what they're looking for. But also at the same time, it's about detecting, but it's not really about detecting. It's about like, it also often parallels their real life.

It's about like dream chasing and family and mateship and like finding your place in the world if you're like directionless and all these kinds of things but it's got this like beautiful like small town kind of vibe to it it is like a midsummer murders but there's no there's no murder it's like really like low-key and like quietly funny and it's just brilliant it's one of those places where you kind of like when the like the theme song kicks in and you see like the English countryside, it's really like quite relaxing and like it's like serenic. Is that the word? Serene.

I think you meant serene or picturesque. Picturesque, yeah. And there's three seasons. There's 19 episodes and that's it. So there's like the first two seasons there's a Christmas special and there's one more season. And it's just fantastic. It's really great.

Again, Mackenzie Crook starred in it, directed it, wrote it, and it's all wrapped up. And it's just so you'd love it. You'd really love it. You love English countryside stuff, right? I do. I find that so – I actually find it really relaxing whenever – that's why I think genuinely why I watch all of those murder shows.

Yeah. Just for the fact that it's set in a small country town in England. Yeah. You know, it's just something very, I wonder actually whether part of me it's like a genetic thing, like a throwback to our roots or something. Because you're very Irish. I am. I'm Irish English.

Yeah, Irish English. And there's something very familiar and kind of homely. And it's probably growing up with that as well because I grew up with a lot of TV that looked like this, like a lot of BBC stuff. Yeah, I did too. Ballycus Angel. Ballycus Angel. I don't know if that's BBC.

This is Irish. I don't know if it's BBC. But anyway. No, but it's similar vibe. There's also they've got this like metal detecting club, so it's just all the kind of oddballs from the town that kind of gather every week and just talk about metal detecting and talk about all the buttons they found and things like that.

And there's like two rival detectorists who are like trying to move in on their patch of land and all this kind of stuff. It's just fantastic. It's so good. The first two seasons are on Netflix and the third season I had to get elsewhere. All right. I'm really excited.

I'm going to watch that. It's really like if you love like The Office or like, I don't know, if you like British comedy, you'll like it. Okay. Again, it's not gags. It's like quietly like very funny. Okay. And the characters are really endearing as well.

Is it that kind of timing, that quiet comedy timing? Yeah, exactly. You know where they hold a moment just that extra bit long? Yes, definitely. And it makes it that tiny bit more awkward. Totally. And it's just excellent. And they talk about things like, did you watch QI last night or whatever?

And they talk about the new host for QI and, like, people who watch QI was hosted by Stephen Fry and then who took it over. Anyway, they talk about, like, yeah, but just things like that. And it's just funny. It's really funny. All right. Loved it. Seriously, that talk about like, yeah, but just things like that. And it's just, it's funny. It's really funny. All right. Loved it.

Seriously, that's one of the first recommendations you've made for a while that I'm definitely going to check out. Yeah, you definitely should. You would genuinely love it. And look, Claire. Sandy Toksvig. Yes. And I know you hate men and it's mostly about men, Claire. No, that's not true.

I don't hate men at all. I love them. I'm in love with a few men. A few. Specifically you and us. I know. Not that many. On a side note, how hilarious was Assam's level of energy

in his Christmas concert today? Hey, if you're looking around, there's varying degrees of energy. Yeah, I would have to say he was on the low end. No, I saw kids who just sat there just staring, just staring off to the side. He was not far off that. But to be fair, I think he'd broken his favourite toy. Yeah, he had that day.

And he looked devastated. And he had like no sleep. I thought he was really sad about finishing Kinder, but it was that he'd broken his favourite toy. His buckle gun. His buckle gun that he's like his friend that he talks to all the time. I'm sort of sneakily thinking about buying him a new one. Anyway, that's a boring parenting story.

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Nat's What I Reckon YouTube channel. Did you know about Nat's What I Reckon? I was actually, when you saw it, I quickly watched a few videos as you were. Ah, watching it. Yeah, I just gave it a quick look, say, but go on. So I've been watching it. Yeah, just a bit of quick looks, eh? But go on. So I've been watching it a little bit during the pandemic and I kind of re-watched some just to kind of refresh my memory again and I've seen him a bit on socials and stuff.

So he's a metal drummer actually and a Sydney comedian and so before the pandemic hit in Australia, he had about 85,000 followers on YouTube and did a lot of kind of videos in this kind of signature style. And then ISO hit and he started doing cooking videos about cooking from home in his kitchen. And he was taught to cook by his dad, who I think was a professional chef. Oh, okay.

And so each video has clocked up around 5 million views, which is crazy. Oh, wow. Yeah, really? Yeah. has clocked up around 5 million views, which is crazy. Oh, wow. Yeah, really? Yeah, and one of him fans in the Foo Fighters, Dave Grohl, DJ Carl Cox and the actor Yael Stone as well. So he's done really, really well. He looks like he's in – not Byron. He looks like he's in – He's in Sydney.

Sydney, yeah. Not Byron. What's it called? Beach. What are you talking about? Bondi. The main Bondi. He looks like he's in Bondi.

He potentially could. Well, he lives in Sydney. So he's got a real thing about jar sauce and packet risottos. Yeah. And so he's taking a real war against them. And he was sort of, he just basically yells a lot in a really awkward Australian accent and swears a lot. But his cooking style is just really really like he knows what he's doing

but he doesn't make it fancy or bullshit. He just like kind of yells at you a bit like settle down, champ. But he's also really warm and accepting and doesn't make cooking seem scary or elitist or anything like that. And he's really, really supportive. And what I loved about it too was that he's done these segments called Is It Shit, which is basically like a review sort of videos. And in one particular one he reviews his anxiety and depression.

Oh, wow, okay. And so he talks a lot and his videos are kind of peppered with that, with mental health strategies and how cooking is one of those things that's really helped him with his mental health. And I think that's one of the reasons why it took off because they're so funny but also there's a real heart to them about just accepting yourself for who you are and the joy in the little things, which is I think what got a lot of people through, for us anyway,

when we were in lockdown. And if you're in lockdown somewhere else, Elizabeth Gilbert talks about this too, small things done well can really help you, especially if you're not someone that's living with like huge amounts of kids and like an essential worker. If you're someone who's alone or just with housemates or something or you've lost your job, the idea of just small things done well and life is just full of those. So tiny accomplishments like cooking

a good meal, cleaning the chopping board really well, putting everything away properly, you know, folding your clothes. I think that can really help. Absolutely. One of these cooking tips that I saw was when he's cooking risotto, he goes, how do you know when it's ready? And he goes, I don't know, you eat it and it tastes right. He goes, you've had rice before. Yeah. I'm like, yeah, that's, that's right. Totally, exactly right. The one that made me giggle, one of my favourites, is when he talks about isobolonaise and he's like just on this rampage about people putting all this extra shit in it like zucchini and mushrooms

and he turns to the camera and he's like, I know at this point you want to put some zucchini and mushrooms in. Don't be doing it. No zucchini. Like it's just like really funny but also true. He puts milk in his bolognese which is like the traditional way of doing it. Zucchini does suck. Yeah, but I think when you've got kids you're trying to sneak

as many vegetables into that bolognese sauce as you possibly can. The other really funny ones he does is this series and this is very specific I think to Australia. There's Toyota Camrys are a type of car. Oh, yeah. And they always have a box of tissues on the back seat. Yes, they do, yeah. And it's just so, I think it's so Australian specific,

but he has a real like rampage. He has a video and then a follow-up video about how ridiculous it is that tissues would be on the back window because that's like the most ridiculous place if you need a tissue. You're not going to be able to reach. You have to get out of your car to get it. And then he sits in the car and goes through all the other places that there could be a tissue box that is like way more practical. And then he times himself and shows you that like he would actually be faster

for you to have the tissues in the boot than to have them on the back seat of the car. And he's just walking around the car park, like showing like, he's like, tissue box, tissue box, tissue box. It's fucking weird. Why is everybody doing it? And I just, it made me giggle because it is. It's a really good question. Yeah. I reckon it's because everybody's seen other people do it. And they used to have the tissue boxes when I was a kid covered in like a tissue box cover. Oh, yeah, I remember those. Do you remember that?

Yeah, what was with that? I actually even reckon your parents might have a tissue box on their back. One hundred percent they would. Back, it must have been a thing. When I had a Hyundai Lantra, model 1993, my first car, I'm pretty sure I had a tissue box. It was a good one. Yeah, I loved that car.

It died in Geelong. It did on the way to the beach, I remember, on the side of the road. And then I didn't get another car for like eight years. Yeah. I know. We just had one car between us. Or just travelling the world, being free. Travelling the world, footloose and fancy free.

Anyway, so that's what I reckon you should. Oh, another interesting fact about Nat, he's just no surname, he was supposed to launch his first live comedy tour this year. And that's why he ended up doing these YouTube cooking videos instead. And his girlfriend like films and edits and produces them. And the other thing I thought was interesting, he started cooking more because he had one of his lungs removed. Oh, shit.

And he was like put on quite a lot of weight. He couldn't exercise and he found that really difficult to breathe. And so he had to try and lose weight and get healthier and one of the ways he did it was cooking. Why did he get one of his lungs removed? It doesn't say. Really? Yeah, I've researched and he hasn't said exactly why.

But that's major surgery obviously. Yeah, my grandpa got one of his lungs removed on my dad's side. Yeah. But that was like lung cancer related. Yeah, I mean, look, it could have been cancer. I mean, he smoked for like 50 years. Yeah, look, I don't know. But I thought that was also really interesting

and I think that kind of colours his style of comedy. Like it's ridiculous and funny and really like out there and sweary but he's also just really accepting and really kind of kind. And the way he talks openly about his mental health struggles, I think is really empowering and actually quite good for kids, even though he drops a lot of F-bombs and, you know, all those things. I don't think swearing is that big a deal. Yeah, I don't know.

I grew up in a house with no swearing. So did I, but I just think. Yeah, anyway, but I think people have been like remaking the views with their kids, like their sort of 12, 13-year-old kids and sending it to them. And I think that's, yeah, really, really cool person to follow. Also Dave Grohl, what a legend. Dave Grohl, because he was also, he had a drumming challenge

with a girl, you know. I saw that with Dave Grohl. He did, she played, she had a few, she did Everlong, she did. I can't remember the name of the song. That was Dave Grohl. We did, she played, she had a few, she did Everlong, she did, I can't remember the name of the song. That was a beautiful way of singing. I'm trying to think of it. What the hell is it called? It might be in Bloom.

I can't remember. Anyway, I had one I was going to talk about that was a little bit longer, but I might save that for next week. So what I've done, I've sent you a clip to your email, if you just have a look now, because I want you to watch it and react live. It's only 20 seconds long. It's called Goth Knows What He's Doing.

I recommend before we play this clip that you should go and watch it yourself. It's only 20 seconds. It'll play better than the audio of it, just so people know. All right. You want me to just play it? I just want you to play it. It's coming.

It'll come through as well. But I recommend people watch this. So just for a bit of context, not that you need it. Intellectual. This is from Wife Swap, and they're introducing the family, a family of goths, right, and the dad who's the head of the family. Because the man is the head of the family. Well, it's kind of framed that way if you watch this guy.

Yeah, that is. But this got randomly recommended to me yesterday, and I watched it. So it's basically introducing this goth dad. So if you could just go back to the start and just play it. Yeah, yeah. All right. You don't need to know any of that. It's called Goth Knows What He's Doing.

Yeah. Intellectual Eric prides himself on being a connoisseur of arts and creativity from gravestones to ballet. I think I'm well read. I think I'm well spoken. I think I'm well above average. It is important to me to carry myself in a manner where people are going to say, you know what, he knows what he's doing.

Oh, he's got a cape. He's got a cape and he's looking around his living room with a top hat on. So I looked into this more, this particular episode, but this dude is like... His hair is so long. Yeah, he's goth. He's got a purple. He's one of those guys because there were a lot of goths when we were younger.

And every now and then you'll catch a goth who's like 45 and you're like, he's still goth. Look at this guy. He's still being goth, which is fine. Whatever. Do whatever you want to do. But he's funny because he's putting his goth values on his kids. He's making them dress like goths.

And one kid's like, I want to play sport. And he's like, you'll do ballet. And he's like, I'm cultured and you do ballet. And he's like, it's all about freedom of expression. And people are like, well, he doesn't want to do ballet. He wants to play football. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah.

And he's like, no, culture, ballet. And I just saw that clip and it's just so fun. It's so perfect. So basically what it is, it's a guy talking about how cultured he is and how he knows what he's doing. and then he sweeps a cape across his face like Dracula and like struts across the room. That last two seconds of that video is exactly, it's so good. And the comments, I just went through the comments and they're so funny.

It's like the comments like, well, good thing he knows what he's doing because I don't know what the fuck he's doing or whatever. And one of the comments just says, what does it say? Imagine if he didn't know what he was doing. It's just I just thought it was really hilarious. I don't know. It's something about it just got me. It recommended me at like 1 in the morning and I just couldn't stop laughing.

And goth knows what he's doing. I think, look, the paradox in all of that is that nobody knows what they're doing. Oh, absolutely. Like nobody knows what he's doing i think look the paradox in all of that is that nobody knows what they're doing oh absolutely like nobody knows what they're doing at the end of the day if 2020 has taught us anything yeah it's that i really looked into it though because i watched more of this episode i don't know why i'm stuck on this one thing but it's like because they wife swap and they wife swap with um the woman who comes into their family is like she's from like a hockey loving family and she's like to the son like do you want to come and play hockey and he's like yeah i don't know because my dad won't let me or whatever and she's like hey he wants to play hockey and he's like he doesn't

want to play hockey he wants to do ballet or whatever it's like it's weird because it's like the opposite of what you'd what you would think you used to like the billy elliot story of the kid who's forced to do one thing but he wants to do ballet. It's like the opposite and it's just, I find it really hilarious and tragic that it's like he thinks he's doing like the right thing but he's actually not listening to what the kid actually wants. I think that's a really, like so it came from this one thing I'm like, because I'm very much against like forcing kids to do things that they don't want to do, even though as a parent often you,

like you want to or you'll even try to at times and you'll catch yourself being like, what the fuck am I doing? But then again at the same time there's also things that you kind of have to make kids do to be like you have to know this and you need to learn this particular thing. Yeah, exactly. It's such a fine line. But anyway.

It is. I know I read something really interesting about parenting. It was Glennon Doyle, Untamed, again. I just love that woman. And she talks about how wouldn't it be wonderful if we could live in a world where parenting is about discovering who your child is, not trying to make them into the person you want them to be. And it's unwrapping the treasure that they already are. And to do that, and my mum said that too, actually, that it's giving them so many different opportunities

and pushing them to discover more about who they are and just watching that unfold. And wouldn't that be wonderful if we could do that for our kids? Yeah, absolutely. And I just thought that's so great. It's not about just letting them do nothing. It's about putting so many different experiences in front of them and seeing what they're drawn to.

Yeah, what they gravitate towards. Exactly. All right, I think that's the show. That's the show. You've got a letter though, don't you? I do. So if you would like to run into the show with your recommendation, we would love you to email us.

However, you can also send in a voice memo. So there's a little voice memo app on your phone, whether you're an Android or an iPhone user, and you just can record yourself, make sure you say right up top who you are, where you're listening from, and then tell us your recommendation and just make them short and sharp. We would just love to hear from you. Otherwise, you can also email the show at suggestiblepod at gmail.com, just like Ben Kay has done.

Thank you so much, Ben Kay. Let's go, Ben Kay. Let's listen to him. Let's go, Ben Kay. Let's listen to him. Let's go, Ben Kay. Hi, Claire and James. I'm Ben from south of Canada, Pennsylvania more specifically. But before my suggestion, I just wanted to thank you both for the beautiful weekly content.

I'm hard-pressed for role models these days because, as it turns out, a lot of the people I looked up to growing up are idiots. From my hockey coach being arrested for stealing money from the club to observing the foolish behavior and opinions perpetuated by the adults in my life on social media, it's easy to feel like everything I grew up knowing was a lie. Fortunately, I have the two of you and Mason too to look up to as folks with a bit more life experience than I, but a lot of common interests and a shared desire for some updated honesty in the way we frame our worldviews. Plus, as a person in

a committed relationship with my partner looking for how we can take our next steps after having graduated into the COVID economy, it's nice to see how the two of you are able to stay so unequivocally yourselves while embarking on life together. Anywho, time for my suggestion. I'd like to suggest an album written by some friends of mine in Pittsburgh, PA, in a Midwestern emo slash math rock band called Short Fictions. It's sort of old news as it just hit its first birthday last week, but I've gotten a lot of mileage out of it. Titled Fates Worse Than Death, this beautiful but at times chaotic album

describes life in Pittsburgh with some of the looming threats of climate change and endless gentrification breathing copious amounts of carbon dioxide down their necks. You have to be prepared for a slightly unpolished punk aesthetic, but right with references to classic poetry and Pittsburgh's own Mr. Rogers, the album captures some beautiful sounds and feelings that describe how kids these days are feeling about the state of the world. It's available everywhere music is streamed, but listeners should consider finding it on Bandcamp so the band can get the most out of your support.

My favorite song is Nothingness Coiled at the Heart of Being. Parentheses. Such a good feeling. It's such a good feeling. Whether you check it out or not, I hope everyone at Planet Broadcasting and all the folks listening have a wonderful holiday season and a much better 2021 than this last year has been. Thank you all and take care. Oh, my goodness. What a lovely, I was going to say, email message, voice memo.

I know. Thanks so much, Ben. And I just thought he sounded a little reminiscent of you at the beginning. He's got a certain, like he's got a voice for, he's a very professional sounding voice. He does, doesn't he? He's super professional. I know.

Also, don't look up to us. We'll let you down in the end. We appreciate that. I think that's not uncommon where like you grow up and then you look around and you're like, what the fuck? Totally. It happens all the time. It totally does.

I think I'm feeling that exact same thing that Ben is feeling, that a lot of the things that I grew up thinking that were the truth or totally stable have really been upended over the last few years. Just I think the way that we grew up in the way now the planet has changed so much and all of the impact of climate change, I feel like all these things that I thought the world was like have actually turned out to not be exactly the case. And the grown-ups and the politicians, the leaders of our world seem

a lot less stable than what we kind of had thought. Yeah. Anyway, and, you know, so I totally agree with you, Ben, and thanks for writing in. Oh, yeah, thank you. A lot. We really appreciate that. I find that really interesting as well that like because I used to fear

when I was a kid, I think I've talked about this before, that the adults didn't know, like that the generation coming up didn't know what they're doing and we're going to be in trouble. And then I just grew up and I realised, oh, everyone's just fucking, no one knows what they're doing. It doesn't really matter. I think I've talked about this before. But I think it's a funny little story before we go.

I was speaking to somebody the other day who I've known for a very long time and I don't even remember this, but they said in 2008, because there was all the talk of gay marriage and whether gay couples can adopt kids. And I don't remember this at all. And basically they said that they shouldn't. And I apparently talked them around to being like, what about this person we know?

Does that mean just because they love somebody but they're gay, does that mean that doesn't count and they can't have kids or they can't get married? Is that what you mean, this person that we know? And I didn't even know. I don't remember this conversation. But then this person told me recently it was like that, like, helped turn them around on that.

And I'm like, oh, cool, I did a good thing. In 2008. So, yeah, I just thought that was really like amazing that, you know, you can change someone's mind but amazing that people can be accepting. Totally. Well, I just think that you just never know in those and that's how the world changes in those small moments because really I think people's minds are changed not

by big sweeping social media stuff. It's by the other people in their lives often or I guess people that they've come to know through social media explaining something to them. And particularly that's why I think gay marriage has changed so much because it's like everybody knows someone, whether it's their cousin or their brother or their friend or a friend of a friend or their son or their daughter who is gay and identifies as queer. of a friend or their son or their daughter who is gay and identifies as queer.

And, you know, it's very hard once you put a face to that whole idea. It is, yeah. To then disagree. To then be like, why don't you tell them? Not that you would, you know what I mean? You don't. Yeah. It's different than like yelling at somebody, which is very tempting and is preferable for me.

But, yeah. Good on you, James, for 20, 2008. Oh, no, I didn't mean that to be a brag. I guess it was. But I meant it more as like, oh, cool. Yeah, you just never know what your words are going to be. Don't even remember that. Yeah.

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