Suggestible - Human Heart, Pig Body

Episode Date: August 1, 2019

Suggestible things to watch, read and listen to hosted by James Clement @mrsundaymovies and Claire Tonti @clairetonti.This week's Suggestibles:Making Comics by Scott McCloudChocolate Olive Oil Cake Recipe by NigellaBig Little Lies by Liane MoriartyBig Little Lies TV SeriesLionThe BoysThe RoverKim's ConvenienceThree Women by Lisa TaddeoLeVar Burton ReadsPlanet Broadcasting's 2019 Fundraiser with Bonus Rewards - chuck in a buck?Follow the show on Instagram and Twitter @suggestiblepod or visit www.planetbroadcasting.com. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Hi, I'm Jessi Cruikshank from the number one comedy podcast, Phone a Friend, which I strongly advise you listen to. You know what else I suggest you look into? Becoming a host on Airbnb. Did you like that segue? Thank you. I recently started putting my guest house on Airbnb when I'm out of town, and I didn't realize how easy it would be until I did it. If you have a spare room, you could Airbnb it, or your whole place could be an Airbnb. It's a great way to make a little extra money by doing not a lot, which frankly is my mantra in 2024. To learn more, go to airbnb.ca slash host. Hello. Hello. Hello. That is the general mood that we're in at the moment. Everything is hard.

I'm so cold, Claire. I know, it's super cold. Anyway, who cares about that this is suggestible i care you're james and you as my wife should care well i don't i do care i care about your t-shirt that says come with me if you want to lift that's right it's my workout t-shirt on it that's just suggestible for you what is this show james spit it out we don't we suggest things it's about 30 minutes hopefully, every week. And we talk about things that we've read or watched or listened to. And just cry a lot. And just talk about how miserable it is getting older.

And not sleeping and having a sick kid. Yeah, exactly. All of those things. That's right. I slept in a tiny bed last night with a tiny person. You did? In my dress? That sounds like a very creepy Michael Jackson-esque situation.

I slept in the same room as my son who was sick. Yeah, and it was lovely of you because it's a single bed and you were wearing my delightful dressing gown that's floor length and I bought it oversized because I can snuggle into it and you slept in it. And now you're wearing my dressing gown. Yeah, I did it as a rebellion. Except yours, I bought for you and I don't know why I bought it.

It's like three quarters and not as good. Anyway, this is Suggestible Pod. What a professional show. We recommend floor-length dressing gowns. And sleeping next to your sick child so you don't have to keep traipsing up and down the stairs. Yes. I slept well after you left bed.

I bet you did. Like 2 a.m. or something. It was quite peaceful. All right. What's your first suggestible? Gentleman first? Yeah, gentleman first, as always on this podcast. Okay, both of my things I've not finished in their entirety,

but I feel like I've got a good enough grasp to be like, I know what I'm doing. Don't let the listeners know that. But maybe next week I'll come back and be like, you know what, I finished it and it sucks. No, this one's good. I bought this. I've been thinking about buying this for a while and I'm doing this podcast.

I'm like, now there's a really good reason to buy this. It's called Making Comics by Scott McCloud. It's from 2006. And basically, if you are interested in how comics are made, making a comic yourself, the art, the craft, storytelling, visual images and such. I am. Go on. Then this is the perfect book for that.

They talk about things like writing and flow and structure, like how you structure your panels and your text boxes, different styles, whether you want to do something like manga, like a more traditional kind of. What is manga? Manga is like a Japanese style. Comic style. Comic style. And they read like.

Not mango. I love delicious mangoes. There's no mention of mangoes. Do you remember that delicious big mango that we ate when we were up in WA and it was the size of my head? Yes. Okay, continue with your boring comic book. I think about it every day. Especially this book, which references it.

But yeah, and all sorts of different styles. The other thing is, the interesting thing about it is it's not. Oh, is it? It's not just a book. What are you undermining me? This is the point of the show. Actually, genuinely, I'm really interested, and it looks really cool. When it arrived, I was like, ooh. Yeah, but the thing is it's written as a comic

with the author Scott McCloud talking to the reader in comic book form, and he's like, see, some panels are structured like this, and then the page will do that. And he's like, see, some panels are structured like this. And then the page will do that. And he's like, okay, so let's play out a basic action scene. And you'll, and you'll kind of draw it out.

And then it'd be like, but if you change the angles, then it can kind of add a different element. So you put these four panels in a row and you take one out, it changes the, it changes the entire narrative structure. You know, things like when you lose,

you know, use less words than more, you know what I mean? Cause it's a comic, the best comics, you know, are supposed to be the words and the pictures work in tandem and you don't realize that you're kind of switching between them and he talks about pacing and how you can kind of how you can do time jumps and uh and kind of get it get a sense of like things speeding up or slowing down and and introducing characters and close-ups and things like that. I think people might like it even if you don't intend on making a comic

because I've had this idea in my head for like maybe six years. Even longer. You've been telling me about it for so long. And I'm getting around to it. I know it's one of those things where you're like, I just don't have the time, but I could make the time if I really wanted to. But reading this, I'm like, oh, man, I'm glad I read this

before I attempted any of this because I don't think what I'm going to end up making is going to be very good, but I think this could definitely help because it really makes you think about the pacing of the story, what's important, what's not, and things like that. And gives you advice because I think it's a bit like, remember when we were teachers and everyone would give us advice about being a teacher because they had kids or they were a kid.

I still get that. Yeah, I still get that too. Like because you were a kid or have a kid, you therefore know how to teach, but we studied for ages to be teachers. Wow. And I think it might be the same with creating a comic or writing a book, right, that on the surface of it you're like, well, I speak words and I can write words and therefore I can write a book, right, that on the surface of it you're like, well, I speak words and I can write words and therefore I can write a book.

And I think everybody can obviously put pen to paper or create a comic of some description, but obviously so many people have gone before you to do it and understanding more and more about the craft of it before you attempt it is like an excellent decision. Yeah, exactly. So that's essentially where I'm at with it. I'm probably about a third of the way through, maybe a bit over.

Yeah. But I'm definitely going to keep reading through it. I'm trying not to like make notes as I do it because I feel like that will kind of take me out of it. I'm just like, I'll just read this and then, you know, kind of come back and pick up. And absorb it in that weird subconscious spider at the back of your head. That's right. Exactly.

Do you know what I mean by that? Terry, yeah. Yeah, Terry. Mine's called Mildred. Yeah? Yeah. Sometimes she's very aggressive and rude. She's so aggressive. I don right, exactly. Do you know what I mean by that? Terry, yeah. Yeah, Terry. Mine's called Mildred. Yeah? Yeah. Sometimes she's very aggressive and rude. She's so aggressive, I don't like her.

I know. Bloody Mildred. Building veggie patches. I know, losing her mind over a frigging chicken coop. I know, building a chicken coop. I don't know what's happened recently. I think it's the winter I'm being stuck inside, but something has happened to my brain and I'm just exploding projects

Yeah, it's that winter blues thing with the lack of sun and that. It really kind of gets you down. I'm very much an indoor person, as you are aware. You are a hermit crab. But yeah, the sun. Your home is a shell. Sometimes I just walk outside and just kind of stand in the sun like, come on. You do do that, like charging your battery.

It is. And then you crawl back into your shell. It is what it's like, though. Yeah. You need it. Whereas I'm like a sunshine bunny. Yeah. I'll get out.

I mean, I don't look like I'm a beach bunny or anything. I'm very pale. But I like to just wander in the sun and frolic in the woods and be out and about all the time. And being at home in this godforsaken wasteland that is our house is turning me insane and making me do things like buy, like actually order a ton of shit to our house so that I can then put it in a garden to grow things. Yes.

And then I'm shoveling shit on purpose. What is that about? She means literal shit, by the way. I do. She's doing veggie patch, yeah. Cow manure. What am I thinking? Because you're like, look, I ordered this manure and I'm like, good luck.

Yeah, exactly. You're like, my dad was a farmer and I'd never want to do that. Exactly. He left at 19. Why should I do it? Well, yeah, probably because he was learning why. Same with the chicken coop. You're like, we need to assemble this chicken coop.

And I'm like, you need to assemble this chicken coop. Yeah, and then I found someone delightful and air tough. Yeah, that's the way you do it, man. Exactly. Anyway, so making comics. Yeah, back to your comic. Scott McCloud. It's linked below.

Do you want to talk anything about, has it changed the way you might stylize? Definitely. Like I have the whole entire story mapped out in my head. I know exactly where it's going to go. The finer details obviously, I've written some of it down. It's really good. It's fine. It's great. I think the idea is fine, but I know that my execution isn't going to be

very good because it'd be the first time and maybe the only time thing. It's one of those things where I just need to make it. I just make the thing clear. I just need to make it. I just make the thing clear. Just need to kind of put it out there. 100%. And then kind of hope, you know, if there's something good in there, maybe I think they'd build on it for the next thing.

If there's a next thing. It'll probably be good. You're right. It'll probably be excellent. I'll probably win awards. It'll probably be held as like one of the greatest literary. I just think it'll be awesome. But also nobody like gets good by just thinking that they have a thing in their head and never

doing it. Exactly. Like the doing of the thing is how you get good at the thing. You always talk about that, the hours, the number of hours that goes. Like remember when you were a terrible editor and you were not good at editing and it took you like forever and ever and ever to edit anything. Like how many hours did it take you? It used to take you back, back in the land of before Mr. Sunday movies.

Well, it probably takes me more now because you put more kind of effort into it and there's more of that, yeah. But initially, a simple video. I can cut, yeah, I can do a simple video in pretty quickly, yeah. Yeah, but back then you couldn't. Okay, anyway. Anyway, what's your thing? Moving right along.

Okay, my turn. So all I'm saying is put in the hours, buddy. Make your comic, mate. And I'm glad you got that book. It sounds awesome. What was the title of it again? Making Comics. By? Scott McCloud.

It's linked below. They always are. Excellent. They are. Exactly. By the wonderful Royal Collins Redditors. Okay. My recommendation, I have a few, but the first one is an excellent recipe by an angelic called

her chocolate olive oil cake. If you have never eaten this cake, you are missing out. If you have never made it, you are missing out. It is versatile. It can be made gluten-free. It is also dairy-free, which is always important in this day and age of people with allergies and all kinds of vegan things. Not that it's vegan, but dairy things.

And it's just a delight. It's not vegan? And I make it all the time. No. But it's dairy-free. What are the non-vegan oh yeah right yeah yeah but you probably could make it with that ex but it's it's just a delight it's fun to make no jealous recipes it's from her cookbook nigelissima and you've eaten that chocolate excuse me what's the book called nigelissima because it's a recipe of italian things by this delightful goddess doesn't roll off the tongue

anyway all i'm saying is if you need like a standard go-to chocolate cake it's very It's a recipe of Italian things by this delightful goddess of cookery and sorcery. Anyway, all I'm saying is if you need like a standard go-to chocolate cake. It's very short as well. You can do them as cupcakes. Yeah. You can do them as a slice. And it works. It kind of gets a nice crisp crust.

It's quite sort of lovely and light and delightful. It is. It's really good. And it's also like low on gluten or whatever, isn't it? Yes, I said, yeah, it can be made gluten-free. You can do an almond meal instead. Yes, correct. It's really good. And it's also like low on gluten or whatever, isn't it? Yes, I said, yeah, it can be made gluten-free. You can do an almond meal instead. Yes, correct. It's really good as well.

It's delicious. It's all my go-to chocolate. So there you go. You're welcome. I don't like a rock-hard chocolate cake. There are people coming at me with a mud cake. Bang it on. You don't like it.

It's too dense, too much. Too dense. Yeah, whereas this one, especially with all your healthy things, I've made it with coconut sugar. It wasn't quite as good, but it's still work. No, I like coconut sugar. It's good. Yeah, and I made it gluten-free so healthy things, I've made it with coconut sugar. It wasn't quite as good, but it still worked. No, I like coconut sugar. It's good.

Yeah, and I made it gluten-free so you could eat it and pretend that it was fine and zero calories. I'll do a line of coconut sugar like it's cocaine. Just rip through it. Yeah, correct. That's how I do it. There you go. Just straight up.

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Uber Teen Accounts. Invite your teen to join your uber account today available in select locations see app for details i feel like you've got another recipe there though no i don't have any more recipes i just have that was like a sneaky recommendation now i'm gonna do my proper one big little lies have you seen it i've seen zero big little lies you know what it is uh it's about some women going our lives aren't very good, is it? Fucking. Oh, my God.

You're the frigging worst. That's what every show about made by men. I know. I didn't say it's not. Dear Lord. I mean, they do completely They're like, we've got so much personal drama. Oh, God.

Well, no. It's a brilliant, brilliant book by Leanne Moriarty that she wrote in 2014. It hit the bestsellers lists all around the world. Oh, like my comic will. Interesting. Oh, Lord, here we go. Can I finish my second recommendation? Yeah, sure. All right. So Leanne Moriarty, if you haven't read her before, she is such a great read. Oh my goodness. She's written so many brilliant books and they're just fun. They're often murder mysteries or something quite intense happens. They're usually female protagonists and just easy reading, really intriguing and great. And those

kind of page turners that you end up at 3am, like knowing that you'll regret the next day, but you just need to get to the end of this book. It's brilliant. So Big Little Lies was then turned in 2017 into a TV series. It was initially slated to be a film, but Bruna Papandreas, who is a producer, connected the famous people. I don't know if you've heard of Reese Witherspoon and Nicole Kidman. She connected them up together and they got the rights to the book from Leanne Moriarty and they ended up crafting it into a TV series. And it's just wonderful.

The season, obviously, one was in 2017, but the new season, two, has just dropped this year. Boom! Maybe like a month or so ago. And it is not quite as good as the first season, but still really excellent viewing. And I loved it. Nicole Kidman is stunning in it. I reckon she is the standout performance.

She's an excellent actor. She was great in Days of Thunder. She was great is the standout performance. She's an excellent actor. She was great in Days of Thunder. She was great in BMX Bandits. She was great in Far and Away. Well, there you go, in all of those things. And the one about where she sings Somewhere Over the Rainbow? Oh, Australia.

That movie is the worst movie. Well, here's the thing. She was great in The Hours, actually. Here's the thing about Nicole Kidman. She often copped a lot of flack, but she's always chosen really complex, challenging roles. And consistently good in things as well. Yes, and interesting and weird roles that she doesn't have to do because she's Nicole Kidman.

She could do anything. But she kind of chooses really interesting parts, like in Lion. Remember the film Lion? Lion's an excellent movie. Oh, amazing. And she's quite like a – She's really good in that. Yeah, but she's not like the main character in that.

She's not the lead, but she plays a mother of a son who was adopted from India who lost his family and then he goes back to find his actual parents and it's a true story. That moment where he goes to her, do you ever regret like not, that you couldn't have kids or whatever? And she's like, we could have had kids, but we chose you. And I'm like, oh, my God. I know.

Yeah, I know. Anything to do with parenthood and you're just sobbing away. You're crying now. I'm so weak now. I used to be so strong. I know. You're just sobbing away. Oh, my God.

It really gets you, though. Yeah. It's a good movie. At the beginning of that film, Lion, when the little boy is with his brother at the station and then he just gets lost and he's on this train all alone going through India. Oh, my God. Oh, it just gives me heart palpitations. Anyway, we're not talking about Lion, though that is a really excellent suggestible.

If you haven't seen that film, it's absolutely brilliant. And it's a true story as well. So, fascinating. It's all right. I mean, it's a bit soppy for me. Oh, are you? You're a big crier, I have to say. I don't cry. You don't openly weep. You you don't openly weep but you just get a little bit wrong with that in your eye but it makes me i just think

it's adorable and also i get i'm right there with you being a parent or mate everything all the feels anyway so talking about parenting back to big little lies nicole kidman i think is the standout performance she is in a really complex marriage with alexander skarsgard i know that's his the he obviously that's not his character that's the actor he's tarzan yeah he's really good too but you kind of hate him it's really complex and it's a really sharp look at domestic violence too in their relationship but the show is actually also very funny. They explore really complex female friendships. It's sort of set in a school in Monterey Caliph,

which is basically an idyllic beachside town of very wealthy families. So they're very intense parents, the kind of parents that, you know, that phrase helicopter parenting comes to mind. Sure, yeah. There's all the kind of competitiveness with their children and their, you know, between the mothers as well kind of comes to the fore, but also it kind of begins with a murder. So they're at a school function where everyone,

all the women are dressed up as Audrey Hepburn and all the men are dressed up as Elvis Presley. Were they a couple? No, but it's just like a theme. So Leanne Moriarty kind of had this dream about a murder occurring at this kind of function with all these Audreys and all these Elvises. And it really works on screen. It's quite a dramatic, because it's all, you know,

different looks of the same actress. Anyway, it's kind of like a parent's trivia night kind of thing. Yeah, right. There's a lot of drinking that happens. I've been to those. Those parents get loose. They do. Correct, exactly.

And then what kind of spirals out from there is really interesting. I've been meaning to watch this for two years or however long it's been now for, and I've been trying to avoid spoilers. Yeah, I won't spoil it. I'm not going to say what happens. All I will say is that it takes turns that you don't necessarily expect. But what's, I think, so brilliant about it is the look at parenthood and relationships and marriage and kids and what it's like to be a parent.

And also just the setting is gorgeous. It's by the beach and it's... I know the beach. The beach. You know, just like the town. It's kind of like a glimpse into the lives of very, very wealthy kind of families and how their lives kind of all unravel. And then also that really, obviously, as no surprise,

everyone's telling lies to each other. Big lies or little lies? Small. Big and little. Interesting. And how that kind of affects kids. They really look, interestingly, at whether you can lie to kids or not. Your parenting and the way you parent and how that has implications more broadly for them at school.

And then how you cope when your children act in ways that you are sort of embarrassed by or, you know, and whether you're going to defend them, whether you, you know, and how you parent and the boundaries you put in. Yeah, it's tricky, eh? And how honest to be with kids. Like, that's a really interesting thing that's explored more in the second season as well. How honest should you be? How Honest Should You Be? Because one of the characters, Jane, who was originally supposed to be played by Rose Byrne and is instead played by Shailene Woodley,

who's great, who was also in The Fault in Our Stars. And Laura Dern is another standout. She's hilarious. It's a great cast. Yeah, brilliant cast. Reese Witherspoon is hilarious as well, kind of manic and great. Meryl Streep is in the second season. Initially, as what always happens to me with Meryl Streep,

I look at her and I go, I just think, you're playing Meryl Streep. I'm Meryl Streep. I'm such a good actor. I'm an actor. I'm Meryl Streep. Yeah, she was my least favourite part of her. She's a great actor, obviously.

I love Meryl Streep. But in Mary Poppins, I'm like, fucking stop all of this. Yeah. Well, initially in the second season her character has like so they've put her with false teeth so you know she always has like kind of yeah wigs unnecessary it'd be distracting it is distracting the first couple of episodes i'm like all i can see is meryl teeth meryl teeth meryl street with extra teeth but really meryl teeth meryl teeth yeah. Meryl Streep with extra teeth. But really Meryl Teeth. You're talking about a big Meryl Teeth. Yeah, so initially all I could see is that.

But then as it unfolds, you kind of lose that because you get so invested in the plot. Because she's such a good actor. She should stop saying, I'm Meryl Streep. Yeah, I'm Meryl Teeth. I know she should. Anyway, I just really recommend reading the book and then watching the two seasons. Brilliant. Fantastic. And, yeah, I just really recommend reading the book and then watching the two seasons. Brilliant.

Fantastic. And, yeah, it just explores some really interesting themes. The men in it are really interesting too. Well, that sounds great. Yep. Well, Claire, that went forever. Do we have any time left? Oh, my God.

It did not go forever. You fanged on about comic books for a long time. I fanged on about comic books for like three minutes. Your turn. How much time have we got? 19 minutes. Oh, excellent. Okay. This is something I started watching when I was away on the Gold Coast on the weekend.

I was in the Gold Coast and I like to brag. I was also involved in the service station robbery. I'm not going to get into it. You just go right past that one. I'll save it for the weekly planet podcast. Along with the boys. A lot of people have said watch the boys or whatever. I've watched the boys in their entirety. We'll be talking about it.

You love to watch the boys. You will hate it. I sent Mason the same message. I'm going to be talking, we'll be talking about it. You love to watch the boys. You will hate, shut up, shut up. I sent Mason the same message. I'm like, hey, you should watch the boys. And I'm like, he's like, I bet you like watching the boys. I'm like, shut up, Mason. Just shut up.

But yeah, you'll hate it. You will watch it. Because I tried to watch the rover that you recommended in the previous episode. I told you not to watch it. And I got five minutes in and I was like, I hate this. The first 20 seconds of it is just, who's the main character? Guy Pearce. Guy Pearce just staring into the distance with a greying beard. Like, it literally goes for 20 seconds.

I timed it and he's just, like, staring, saying nothing, and then eventually gets out of a car and stumbles into a shed. Forget it. Listen, this is something you might like. Are you familiar with Shang-Chi, the Master of Kung Fu? No. Okay. There's a new movie coming out in the Marvel slate.

It's called Shang-Chi, Master of the Ten Rings, and it's a mostly Asian cast. And they've cast this guy called Simu Liu, who's a Canadian actor who was born in China, or yeah, I think he was born in China, in this role. So basically he's, it's this character who's kind of essentially like a Bruce Lee character. So he's, you know, he's in the Marvel universe,

but he's the best kung fu fighter or martial arts fighter in the universe. That's boring, right? No, I'm into it. I was thinking about Kung Fu Panda. Well, that's not what I'm talking about. So I've never seen this guy before in anything, right? But it turns out he's in this show called Kim's Convenience,

which a bunch of people recommended to me. And it's on Netflix. And he, so basically, he's not the main star of it, but what I've, I'm a fair few into it. Again, I haven't finished all three seasons. But it's basically about this guy. I shouldn't make fun of you tonight. I shouldn't make fun of you. You shouldn't make fun of me, Claire.

It's very demoralizing to me as a man and a human being. Okay, continue. Mr. So it's about this guy called Mr. Kim, and he's from Korea, and he runs a store, like a general store, with his wife and his daughter. And they all kind of get along for the most part, but his son, who's played by Simu Liu, is estranged, so he works in a car rental place.

And it's kind of like a sitcom. It's like he runs this store, people come in, funny situations have happened. It's mostly through to life. It's not like crazy, wacky scenarios. Like the very first scene comes in where there's going to be a gay pride parade in the street and they're like, can we put up this sign?

And he's like, I'm not putting up that sign. I'm not going to do his voice. It's like a fun way of talking, but it's just going to come off and come across as racist if I do it. But he's like, I'm not going to put up that sign i'm not gonna do his voice yeah it's like a it's like a fun way of talking but it's just gonna come off come across as racist if i do it but uh he's like i'm not gonna put up your sign because it's an ugly sign and they're like are you homophobic he's like i'm not homophobic he's like this is just a very poorly made side i don't i don't like the look of it and so they're like well you know we're gonna tell everyone you're homophobic and so he says well how can i be homophobic when there's a 15 gay discount or whatever so he just makes just makes his thing up on the spot and the episode kind of goes from there. And he judges people as they come in, whether they're gay or not.

He says that he's got good gaydar and he can tell or whatever. Anyway, so the biggest part of it is it's about a generational divide between him and his kids, but also it's the culture divide. And not so much us, but we've got a lot of friends who've, their parents come were born you know overseas whether that be you know italy greece china wherever um and there is there is absolutely that divide between the you know it's not just a generational thing it's it's the you know you you the influences and you're growing up and your friends has a huge difference and there can be this big disconnect between your parents and you're torn between these two worlds so it also addresses kind of that element of it as well. Look, it's like fun and it's breezy

and it's easy to watch and it's just a good, fun show. It sounds really good. I can do good, fun things too. You can. It's not just Guy Pearce shooting people. In a post-apocalyptic landscape with everyone shooting each other and drinking out of

a barrel. That sounds great. I'm really going to check that out. You'd like it. You'd really like it. Okay, I really – I mean, you have to finish the rover, obviously. Then you have to watch every episode of The Boys. I literally could not get past five minutes when some guy,

they were driving in a car and he's like, I've shot my brother, he's dead. And everyone's like, I don't fucking care if you've shot your brother. He's dead. The world's dead. And I was like, I'm out. I'm done. See you. That is fairly accurate. Also, if you do want to watch the boys,

there is a scene where they find a super-powered baby and it's got laser eyes and he weaponises it and uses it to cut people in half. It's really good. And people just explode like a bag of blood as it tears through them. It's so funny. How is that funny?

Because it's ridiculous. That's awful. Yeah. That is so awful. All right. Okay. Excellent. I'm not going to check out the boys, but I will check out Keepers Convenience.

You'll definitely hate the boys. Yeah. Well, I don't hate boys, but I will hate that for sure. Okay. My next recommendation. Are you done? Can I keep going? I'm done and you can keep going, Claire.

Okay. I have a couple. God, how many? It's supposed to be two weeks. All right. Yeah, but you done? Can I keep going? I'm done and you can keep going, Claire. Okay, I have a couple. You're like, how many? It's supposed to be two weeks. All right, yeah, but you bang on for ages. What? This one is a book called Three Women. It's by Lisa Taddeo and I just want to briefly mention it

because it's not an anti-recommendation, but it is very intense. It's a book that most of the women that I follow online have read recently. They all got sent advanced copies. It's not – You're not famous enough for advanced copies. No, I'm not. That must be embarrassing for you.

Yeah, well, you know, I'll get over it. No, I probably won't. I'm going to cry into my frigging giant chicken coop and piles of shit. Anyway, back to the book. Three Women is really a true story. Lisa Taddeo, as a journalist, followed their lives for a year and really deep dives into their sexual history and their past. It's got a lot of themes of Me Too.

It looks at sex from a completely female perspective. It looks at the three women. One is a woman who had a relationship with a teacher when she was 16 and he was married and kind of exploited her. And then she takes him to court later on. I don't never understand how people do that. Oh my God. I know.

And he, he wins like teacher of the year and that's what sent her over the edge. And so, but she doesn't, I'm not going to spoil it, but it's heartbreaking to listen to. And he just seems like this all aroundaround great guy with kids and a family, and he gets to just walk off scot-free, and she ends up with a whole lot of problems, which often happens with people who've suffered that kind of abuse. So it's, if you're someone that is interested in trying to understand the psychology behind what happens to someone when they are abused in that way

or mistreated, particularly for women. And this, I think, is such important reading. So it's not going to be a light romp. I found it really hard to get through. You were like, oh, God, this book is tough. Yeah. Yeah, like it's really great writing and a really important book and people are raving about it.

really great writing and a really important book and people are raving about it. I just found it really, really tough going because the themes are so full on. And the stories are real and brutal. Yeah, they're real and very explicit. The other two stories, one is about a woman who experienced a rape when she was a teenager. It's just awful. And then kind of how that then, she then has an affair. She's married, but she has an affair. And the kind of effect of what happened to her in her early life kind of seeps into her

choices. Then it's also sort of empowering in a strange way about female sexuality. So that's really interesting. And then the third one is about a really, a girl who grew up very wealthy, got married and then is in an open marriage. So it's, yeah, it's a really interesting look at different ways that people's- Hey, it works for some. Yeah.

Well, there you go, James. No, I'm joking. I was going to say I have something to say, but I really don't. No, it's a look at three people's lives that I have not really got a lot in common with, but found fascinating and heartbreaking. It's obviously set in America. There's three American stories there. So, yeah, I can't, it's not really like I'm not.

You were just talking about to me that it's brutal. It's brutal. But then I was debating whether to talk about it on the show because it's so brutal. But then I also think it's an important book. And at this point in time, it's a really important look at sex from a female perspective. And this is kind of explicit. Hello, our son in the future.

But often, and I hadn't even really realized how mostly sex in film and literature is always written from a male gaze and a male perspective. Even often books that are written by women, sometimes the sex scenes are still from a male perspective almost. So this goes really deeply. He grabbed her boobs. He was like, this is pretty good. Nailed it. Exactly. But, yeah, so that's why I think this book is really important

because it explores what it means to be a woman and from their perspective. However, caveat, it's brutal. Cool. All right. Hang on. What time is it? It is 29 minutes.

Save it for next week. All right. Fine. Fine. Okay. Review. Fine. Okay. Review. Yes. If you do want to reach the show,

you can, you can send us a suggestible, which Claire's about to read out now, I assume. Is that right? Oh no, I left my phone. Okay.

So I'm going to read one out right now. I'm going to find it on the fly. Cause I'm a goddamn computer whiz. Sorry, they're on my phone. I did find them. I mean, it's a bit.

I'm turning into the Mason. It's a. Oh my God. I've become the Mason. I did call them. I mean, it's a bit. I'm turning into the mason. It's a. Oh, my God. I've become the mason. No. All right. Next week, I will have them prepared. I will.

Okay. So I've got this from Detective Herbert Covington said, I would highly suggest LeVar Burton reads a super wholesome podcast where Reading Rainbow and Star Trek's own. We didn't really get Reading Rainbow here. But are you familiar with the guy at the Star Trek, Geordi LaForgia, and he's got the band across his eyes, like the red Cyclops visor?

Never mind. He plays him. LeVar Burton reads a short story. He's obviously an incredible storyteller, and the stories he chooses are always super enthralling. LeVar Burton, famous actor and children's entertainer storyteller. Excellent. He's great, and he's a really fun dude, it would seem.

I also got this review, which you can do just on your app. I love Mr. and Mrs. Sunday Movies. Five stars from Drew Llamas. I genuinely love this show. It's quick, light thing with two people who obviously enjoy their time together and discussing things they enjoy. I feel like most married couples would

be insufferable to listen to for 30 minutes straight. I feel like this bloody married couple is insufferable to listen to for 30 minutes straight. I feel like this bloody married couple is insufferable to listen to. Just bloody finish. But Claire and James are just the best. Aw, thanks, mate. Thank you, Drew Llamas. That is so lovely. If you would like to leave us a review and a rating, that would make our day.

We're old and sad and tired. I think it's one of those things where whenever I say that you're like, you're not old, when you're like 60 you'll be like, what was I thinking? Now I'm old. And then when I'm 90 I'm like, oh, man, I'm dead now. Now I'm old. Unless your brain isn't a computer, which is your dream. I can't wait.

One day it will be. Did you read the thing about they said they were, I think, was it in Japan, they're splicing human and animal DNA together? Why are they doing it? Are they making hybrids like the movie Cats? Incorrect. So they can grow human organs in animals. Like you want a heart?

This pig's got a heart in it. You can grab it. Oh my God. Yeah. I have so many feelings about it. We can't talk about it because it's 31 minutes already. That'd be a separate podcast. But we are suggestible parts.

Should you snatch a human heart from a pig's body? That's what we should... Should you? a human heart from a pig's body? That's what we should call it. Should you? Yes, always. That's going to be the title of this episode, Human Heart, Pig Body. I feel like I met someone like that once, someone ham-coloured. Oh, very good.

I did see a whole lot of ham-coloured bike riders. I was down the beach the other day. Yeah, very good. I did see a whole lot of ham-coloured bike riders. I was down the beach the other day. Yeah, I know. I've walked past the schools in our area after bloody, you know, all the dads out there wearing bike helmets and standing around talking about footy or whatever the fuck real people talk about. Yeah, I know. You went away on a footy weekend and you didn't go to the football

with your mates. I didn't want to. I stayed in the hotel and I watched the boys and it was great. I loved it. You sounded so happy. It was the greatest thing that ever happened to me. Alright, we've got to finish. It's the 32 seconds. Minutes. Alright, follow us at SuggestiblePod on Instagram

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