Suggestible - Is This Not A Bottom?

Episode Date: April 15, 2021

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Hi, I'm Jessi Cruikshank from the number one comedy podcast, Phone a Friend, which I strongly advise you listen to. You know what else I suggest you look into? Becoming a host on Airbnb. Did you like that segue? Thank you. I recently started putting my guest house on Airbnb when I'm out of town, and I didn't realize how easy it would be until I did it. If you have a spare room, you could Airbnb it, or your whole place could be an Airbnb. It's a great way to make a little extra money by doing not a lot, which frankly is my mantra in 2024. To learn more, go to airbnb.ca slash host. Men, men, men, men, manly men, men, men, men, men, men, men, men, men, two and a half men. Remember that show? Yeah, how long were you planning that intro for? I've been planning that for weeks because I knew it would go down so well.

And also, you hated that show. And also, I love that you sang at me. That wasn't supposed to be a gift, Claire. You know a song is always a gift, even a song where you think the show is terrible. You like that show? Look, not the latter seasons. The first ones were all right. There is no way that you would watch that show and think it's okay,

that you would like any of it. You'd be like, this is incredibly dated and sexist. Oh, yeah. I mean, no, I'm not watching it for its, like, feminist commentary. I like John Cryer. I think he's cool. He is cool. He's the new Lex Luthor.

Oh, he would be good in that. He was also Lenny Luthor, Lex Luthor's nephew in Superman 4, the first movie I ever saw at the cinemas. The cinemas. Yeah. I see. I'm the cinemas. On a side note, Phoebe Waller-Bridge is going to be in the new,

what is it? Indiana Jones. Indiana Jones. Oh, my goodness. Two of the things that I really like. You like Indiana Jones? I like Indiana Jones. Oh, my goodness. Two of the things that I really like. You like Indiana Jones? I like Indiana Jones. I don't look.

That's one of those things you would think is very problematic, Claire, because he's always shaking a woman and telling her to get a grip. He's like, get a grip. You're shaking a woman. Which is so hysterical. He's like, get a grip. I'm shaking a woman. Yeah, it's not okay.

However. Sometimes he's afraid of snakes though and someone has to shake him and be like, get a grip. This is true. And also, he's just so snakes though and someone has to shake him and be like, get a grip. This is true. And also he's just so sexy in the hat. Is it just the hat? I don't think you can put that hat on anybody. I've met a lot of people in my life who think they can pull off a fedora

and not a single person can. I'll tell you that much. That being said, the guy that cut our son's hair today, actually by coincidence, fedora, nailed it. It looked really good. He was wearing a fedora inside a hair salon. Yeah, and he had a big beard. He looked like a lumberjack in a fedora. Nailed it. It looked really good. He was wearing a fedora inside a hair salon. Yeah, and he had a big beard, looked like a lumberjack in a fedora. It was amazing.

He was Austrian. That is a bold choice. I was like. What did he call our son? Afterwards he's like, he kept calling me my old friend. And I'm like, yeah, it's just like an expression or whatever. I'm like, did you like it? And he goes, yeah, it was cool.

Our son's the best. He's so literal and has like no qualms about being curious about what people do and also very secure in his own self. Yes, absolutely. Until teenagehood we'll strip that away from him. I know. I'm so worried for him. But then you get it back and then you're just like,

fuck everybody who cares. Literally. I know we say this every week but I just live with two people who both just are like, I don't fucking care. Everything sucks. I said that to our little guy this morning and he was like, yeah, I am grumpy like Dad all the time. I'm like, I know.

Everything is like, I hate this. I hate everyone. I hate that person. This person did that. He knows what's up. I know. Even when you love your own life, you just like being miserable. That's fine. I hate that person. This person did that. He knows what's up. I know. Even when you love your own life, you just like being miserable. That's fine.

I like being happy. On that note, I'm Claire. James is here also. We are married and we recommend you stuff to watch, read and listen to. And don't we all need some of that? Do you think Two and a Half Men got worse after Charlie Sheen was fired and replaced with Ashton Kutcher? Yes.

Kutcher? Kutcher. Do you like him? Kutcher Yes. Kutcher? Kutcher. Do you like him? Koochie. Do you like him? Koochie. Do you like him? Not overly.

Do you think he's good looking? Not really. Do you like the movie No Strings Attached or Friends With Benefits? Neither. Do you know what I'm talking about? I know exactly what you're talking about. With Milo Kunis? Kunis?

Well, they're married now, or together at the very least. Yes, I know. But I just. Wait, no, no. It's Milo Kunis and Justin Timberlake and Natalie Portman and Ashton Kutcher. No, Natalie Portman is not married to Ashton Kutcher. No, no, in the movies. Oh, in the movies.

Yes, yes, yes, yes. Sorry, I didn't mean to say. Both of those movies are annoying and came out roughly at the same time, which is sometimes what's happened. Like something is in the zeitgeist. It happens all the time. And like little collective movies all happen at the same time. I've got a video on it.

I can't remember what it's called, but I've got a video on it. Oh, I haven't watched it. I'm sure it's good. You've never watched a single thing that I've made in my life, so you know what? It doesn't surprise me. If you had seen that one, it would be like, wow, really? That one?

All right. That is not true. I used to watch a lot more of them. No, you don't have to. Nobody does. None of my friends watch them. It's absolutely fine. to watch a lot more of them. No, you don't have to. Nobody does. None of my friends watch them. It's absolutely fine. No, a lot of people do.

Literally none of my friends watch them. Hey, if this is your first show and you don't know, James makes videos on the internet on his YouTube channel, Mr. Sunday Movies, and I don't really care about them. But a lot of other people do. There's like a million subscribers. Yeah, but a million subscribers doesn't always translate to a million views per video.

Anyway, we're here to subscribe. No, we're here to talk about recommended things. No, I take it all back. It's hilarious. Your videos are hilarious and great. It's just that I am not in the fandom. Some are better than others. I'm not in the deep, deep.

They're always a good edit though because I've got terrific editors. So if there's one thing that can be said. They're good editors. That is true. Ben and Matt and Colleen. And Mitch, yeah. Stellas and Matt. And Matt.

And Mitch. My good friend Matt. We are so sorry this episode is late, by the way, and we've rambled for a good five minutes. That's true. Maybe we should put this at the end. Maybe we should and then really confuse people with your, what is it? Two and a half men thing.

Two and a half men thing. My brain at the moment, I don't know where it's gone. Do you want to go first then for the things that you want to talk about? Oh, thank you so much. You're the ladies first. I see. Get a grip. I'm shaking Claire to get a grip.

Okay, so the first thing I want to talk about, ooh, I'm so excited. I went to the Melbourne International Comedy Festival. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway, that's the theme song to the International Comedy Festival. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway, that's the theme song to the International Comedy Festival. I should do a theme song for them. They don't have one. Anyway, I went and saw one of my favourite comedians, Geraldine Hickey, and it was so great and it was a Saturday night and I went on my own

because it was like very late notice. When you have little kids, you don't know whether you'll actually be able to get out. And you can't both go. No. Exactly. You can't both go. And it was 9.30 on a Saturday night and I was like, fuck it.

I'm going. I'm putting on some makeup. I thought she screamed at me as she was leaving. Fuck it. And I put on an outfit and I was like, maybe I look like mysterious and I'll be like a single gal, like gallivanting around the city. And I much more looked like a very tired mum standing in line being like, can they hurry up?

No, that's got to look as well. People are like, oh, look how tired she is, but she's still doing it. Oh, that's impressive. I brush my hair. Oh, she's brushed her hair too. Anyway, that's a side note. Geraldine Hickey is just, she's so brilliant. I interviewed her on Just Make the Thing ages ago.

What I love about her comedy. Yes, I did. Because I don't listen to what you do either. Yeah, well, you know, yeah, that's fair enough. That's fine. No, no, go on. So Geraldine Hickey, her comedy is so brilliant because it feels like you're talking to a really funny, like laid-back friend

who doesn't really know they're that funny, but their observations are hilarious. Yes, yes. If that makes sense. Absolutely. And she even said to me, I remember when I interviewed her, I was something like, oh, I'm like, you're really, you know, climbing the ladder of success, Geraldine. And she's like, no, it's more like a leisurely walk.

And on the walk, I'm like, oh, a TV show, a chance to do some comedy. Oh, I get to see a friend on a podcast. Like, you know, she's just like. Oh, that's fun. Yeah, she's really cool. And she came out later in life actually. Yeah, right. So she identifies as queer and she is now engaged as well.

So the show is actually about her engagement to her partner Kath and it's just beautiful. There's some really funny footage of her on the screen. If you are not in Melbourne and can't get to see her, she's also in the gala and so that's online and there's also lots of stuff of her on YouTube. I shared a really funny one on my Instagram where she just talks about digging out other agapanthers.

Brilliant. Just really fresh and insightful and what I liked about her comedy as well is it's not mean. Right. You know, she tells a story from her life and then like funny little quirks and observations about, you know, what she does in her own life and how things go wrong or go really right and her internal monologue and her relationship with her girlfriend. But you know how a lot of comedy can be really mean?

Yeah, absolutely. And either self and mean about yourself as well, like really like just making a lot of fun of your own self or a lot of fun of other people's choices. I love her shirts. Yeah, she has really great shirts and really cool quiffed hair. There's a four-minute clip from the girl on YouTube. Oh, there you go.

Yeah, it's so worth it. I'll get Colleen to link that in the show notes below. Maybe you could play a clip at the end. Maybe. Oh, yes, play a clip at the end. Yeah, it's very funny and sweet and wholesome, if that makes sense. The thing I also loved about Geraldine when I talked to her was that she said she grew up in a really Catholic community in a country town and everyone

in the country town, you know, loved their footy and went to church every Sunday and all that kind of thing. And what she loved about that was the community aspect of it. I remember seeing a priest saying Mass and being like, I want to do that because you know how the priests always do the traditional joke at the end of Mass or whatever. I hated it. Yeah, I know. I remember every week I know how the priests always do the traditional joke at the end of mass or whatever it is. I hated it. Yeah, I know you.

I remember every week I'd be like. Shocking, James hates something. No, I'd be like, if he says something about fucking Collingwood again, I swear to God I'm going to lose my fucking memory. Because like, I hope the bloody pies get up this bloody week. Am I right, fellas? Am I right, everybody? I'm going to be like, get a new joke, you fucking idiot.

You're supposed to write new material every week. It's your job, is what I didn't say but I wanted to. And I'm guessing you were probably about seven. Yeah, it started pretty early. Yeah, because I've seen, yeah, I sound like five and he's got that already. You know the problem with churches as well, you could change it up but it's literally like the same thing everywhere. It's like you stand and sit at the same time.

It's supposed to be a celebration or whatever, but it's boring AF, man. It's like you could make it something, but they don't. They make it the dreariest thing possible where the saddest man you've ever seen stumbles around in a dress up the front, like wrestling with bits of crackers. It's fucking weird, man. Make it interesting. Put some proper fucking music in it, you bunch of fucking dunces. Anyway, sorry.

Maybe people would come back. Just as I was saying how it's so refreshing to go and see someone be funny and not be mean. No, I don't do that. I appreciate that, but that's not me. I'm not a comedian. I'm just a bitter person. I am very well aware that that is not you, my friend.

I am bitterly aware. And there's also the priest who can't sing but insists on singing everything. Like, oh, John Mulaney does a bit on it. It's just like, oh, my God, my God, my God. It's torture. Do you remember on here there's this thing called the Easter Vigil, if there are any other Catholics out there, and it's the mass before Easter and it's on a Saturday night usually

and it goes for like four hours and the priest has to sing a lot of it. Like they have to sing it. Yeah. And we went to one at my mum's church and the priest had to sing and his voice was so terrible. Was I there? I don't think so. Yeah, I don't think I was there.

And he knew that it was bad and everyone else knew it was bad and it was like when you else knew it was bad. And it was like when you see a dog when they, like, have to, like, howl or something when a siren goes past and they look at you like, I don't want to be doing this but I really have to do it. He was like, and then the earth came on. And then Jesus came and said. And it was just, it was torturous.

Did he say it or did he sing it? That's what you could have yelled to him. I've got to say, though, because it's such a weird environment, some of the funniest stuff fucking happens. Like the time I saw a dude, like, drop the communion wafer and then pick it up and he looked at the next person and they looked at them and then he just, like, slowly handed it to them.

And the person can't be like, no, because it's been on the floor. He's had to eat this thing that had been on the floor. And I'm just like, oh, my God, I'm going to die. I'm going to die. And I will put a massive caveat in here and say that for some people, a lot of people, church is a really comforting, meditative. Of course it is. And that routine and that structure is really important to people.

Exactly. And so I think it's like it is really and it's super important to people and there's a deep faith that is present there. So I think we should be respectful. Yes, there is also really hilarious examples. I feel comfortable making fun of it because I know it inside out. If it was like another religion, I'd be like, I don't know anything about that.

I'm not going to say anything. Leave it out of line. Yeah, I know because we grew up inside out. If it was like another religion, I'd be like, I don't know anything about that. I'm not going to say anything. Leave it out of line. Yeah, I know because we grew up inside it. One time I had to be an altar server because I loved it because shockingly I love everything. I loved being an altar server. I just bloody loved it. But I love everything like that.

So I was on stage even though I was the altar, but I felt like I was playing a role and I just loved it. Anyway, for those who don't know an altar server, you get to wear a little white robe and walk it was the altar, but I felt like I was playing a role. Yeah. And I just loved it. Anyway, and for those who don't know an altar server, you get to wear a little white robe and walk around on the altar helping out the priest. And I burnt my fingers on a candle on the altar. Did you do that thing with your fingers? Yes, I did because I was about, I don't know, eight.

You didn't lick your fingers before you did it? Well, no, because I was on stage. I was on the altar. Everyone was looking at me. I was playing my role and I had my hands in like a prayerful position. So you just put your fingers on fire. No, so what? Yeah, so I burnt my fingers and then because I, you know,

I'm a trained actor and, you know, professional. You're not for going. A professional altar. Okay, fair enough. There is such a thing. I'm an educator, James. I'm a teacher. You can move up in the A-leagues of altar serving though.

Yeah, you really can. Like a professional sport. And I was really like, look. I'm a teacher. You can move up in the A-leagues of altar serving, though. Yeah, you really can. Like a professional sport. And I was really, like, look. You could have gone pro. Look, I really took it very seriously. And so I burnt my fingers so badly. And the only thing that was available was that little pot of, like, glass filled with holy water.

Oh, no. That you have to take up to the priest so he can wash his fingers after he's touched the, like like Eucharist or something. So I just spent the entirety of Mass with my fingers in the pot of holy water. Nice. Trying to pretend like I was still doing all my jobs and I had to carry everything for the priest and I was like balancing

it around in my fingers. It was terrible. Classic memories. Classic memories. Things we don't have to do anymore. Anyway, Jeremy Hickey. Anyway, she likes community. Yeah, she loves community and I asked her because she was Catholic

and raised Catholic and obviously, I mean, part of that is coming out and her sexuality and everything and coming to an awakening of the world and some of the hugely problematic things about the Catholic religion as well. And I said, so what do you believe in now? And she said she believes in community. And I love that she does community radio. Oh, sorry. And that's the part of –

Oh, my God. It's a good show. You're in a silly mood. I'm a silly man, Claire. You're in such a silly mood. You're not always in a silly mood. I had a bunch of chocolate. Oh, so what's happened?

I don't have any sugar. You do to me. So when I have sugar, I'm like – Silly mood. And we went out for dinner and everything. We've had a lovely evening. We have. So, yes, anyway, that was Geraldine.

And I love that idea. I love that idea of believing in community because that's what it is. It's supporting each other and building that kind of place where people feel safe and they know your name. And the church, like, genuinely, like, I believe. I think it still could be that if it wanted to. And it is for a lot of people. For some people depending who runs it but on the whole it's taken

too many missteps and they've lost trust in people. But that is the part that is great. People have lost trust in them, yeah. That you have a place where people who are alone can be supported and where the elderly can be cared for. Completely right. Where you can run fundraising drives and do a lot of good in the community as well.

So that's the good part of it and the part that I choose to cherish. Yep. Yes, and also the comic timing of the man who dropped the community wafer. I can't talk. My God, that was good. My God. Your turn now. We looked at each other and we're like, oh, my God, this is happening.

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Oscar's going to be weird this year because four movies came out last year and one of them was Bad Boys for Life, which is not a good series of films. People like them, but anyway, whatever. It's a science fiction drama film. A science fiction drama. It's written by Traven Free, who's written on The Daily Show and directed by himself and Martin Desmond Rowe. And it stars Joey, our badass.

But two of the S's are dollar signs, so I don't know how you say that. Bad-ass. Dollar sign, dollar sign? I don't know. I have a real problem with the word ass. Well, yeah, because it's a S. Because I don't know how to say it. Do I say arse?

I say arse. Arse. But that's A-R-S-E. Yes. So ass. I feel like it's ass. Badass is American. Badass.

Badass. Badass. I mean, I guess that's how we say it, but it's not how it's spelt. An ass is actually an animal, not a bottom. That's true. It's not a bottom. It's not a bottom. If you're thinking it's a bottom, it's not a bottom. It's not a bottom. If you're thinking it's a bottom, it's not a bottom.

It's not a bottom. I like saying that to you. Zaria, also Zaria Simone and there's someone else in it who I didn't put in. James. It's not a bottom. It's not a bottom. It's not a bottom. It's not a bottom. We should, you know, be a great game show. They show up with an ambiguous picture and then we're like, what's this?

Is it or is it not a bottom? And you've got to guess. And for ten points, is this not a bottom? That's correct. That is not a bottom. What other things would look like a bottom? Oh, I know. Close up of an arm where you squish your arm and it looks like a bottom.

Yes, yes, yes. Two sausages. Two sausages. Is this a bottom? Like lined up next to each other. Is it a bottom? Well, there's that app I remember from Silicon Valley where it could tell you something was a hot dog or not.

So you hold up something and it'll tell you whether it's a – so you could do that for bottoms. It's an app called Not a Bottom. Genius. It tells you whether or not something is a bottom or not. That's it. We're going to make our millions and retire, James. That's true.

On Not a Bottom. Anyway, it's about a – It's about a book called Not a Bottom. Not a Bottom. Not a Bottom. It's got a – so it's about a young. It's about a book called Not a Bottom. Hmm. Not a bottom. Not a bottom. It's got a, it's a young, so it's about a young black graphic designer and after a one-night stand he's going to get home to his dog. But what happens is he's killed by a police officer in New York City.

He wakes up, happens again. It's a groundhog day situation where he keeps getting killed by this same cop in different ways, right? So it's not like, it's not subtle at all in terms of like the things that it's referring to as in Black terms of like the things that it's referring to as in Black Lives Matter and George Floyd. There's even a line about there's one of the moments where he's actually like physically like choked out, which is quite awful,

and he says, you know, I can't breathe. And there's a lot of like dread and inevitability, but it's kind of it's also quite fun as well. Like at the same time it kind of works that line really well. The one thing I will say about it is i wish it was a feature-length film because it kind of ends abruptly and there's a lot of really interesting ideas there i feel like they could that really are suited to be fleshed out over like an hour and a half or something like that so i think it like by itself it works it works really well but

i think if there was an opportunity to to make this longer i think they definitely should and everybody involved in it is really great. It's like it's a beautifully shot film and everything like that. The colours of New York are really vibrant and obviously social issues reflect a lot of things that have happened and are still happening. But the fact that it is on Netflix, and I love that Netflix do that, that every now and then they'll just drop like a really amazing short film or documentary or something like that.

And this isn't one of the best that I've seen but it's really good and really compelling. And, again, I just wish it was longer and maybe it will be one day. But, yeah, Two Distant Strangers on Netflix if you do want to check it out, which it's 30 minutes so why not? I definitely do. It sounds great. I know it's interesting, isn't it, because sometimes I feel like there's

so much content on Netflix that just isn't very good at all. No. It's just so average. They just released, what was it, it was a superhero movie with Melissa McCarthy and Octavia Spencer. I love Melissa McCarthy. I know, I like both of them. And it's just from what I've seen and what people have also said,

it's just dreck, man. It's just no good. It's just like it's not funny and it's just like boring tropes and whatever and it's like Netflix, make better movies, man. Less content but better stuff. They've clearly got the budget but a lot of the stuff does have the feel of what used to be in like the 80s and 90s, the director VHS kind of feel. Not all of it.

There's a lot of really good stuff but they need to really step up their quality for some of this stuff as well. I think they're getting lazy I feel almost in a way. Maybe because they've got such monopoly on the whole. But that's the thing they don't because Disney Plus is like real. Disney Plus has something like 110 million subscribers or something. It's like half of Netflix. Wow, I didn't realise that.

And Disney also have this amazing back catalogue which also now consists of all the Fox properties. So they've got Marvel, they've got Star Wars, they've got Pixar, they've got all the animations. They've got everything at Fox which is like aliens die hard. They've just got so much stuff, right? And so Netflix now doesn't have a lot of the stuff that it used to have because all the streaming surfers are being parceled off and it's become

essentially what cable was before. So now you're paying for like eight different streaming services. So it's essentially gone back to the model that it was, the expensive model. So what Netflix I feel needs to do is they just need to make more compelling stuff. They're still in the lead by like quite a lot, but there's a good chance that it won't always be that way. And they're still making moves. Like they bought the Knives Out franchise recently for $400 million.

They bought the next two. Oh, that's fun. Yeah. So they're making a couple of those and, you know, bits and pieces. But, yeah, they're also massively in debt. So it's, yeah. Wow, it's going to be really interesting to see where that goes next then with the streaming services.

So, yeah. But then again, like there's a bunch, like I think they do comedy really well. I think like stand-up in particular and like Aunty Donna obviously had a comedy show and the series in general are pretty good. They're quite good. But I think there's movies in particular and they've got a very kind of average record of action movies and like or dramas and, you know, like action dramas and stuff like that as well.

Not all. I think there's some good ones like Extraction is quite good and there's some others. But, yeah, a lot of it is just like whatever, you know. Yeah, not so crash hot Netflix. Not so crash hot. What's your next thing though? Right.

It's still worth it. There's so much stuff on there. It's still great. Oh, totally, yeah. I know Disney Plus is great too. Yeah. I actually randomly started watching The Banger Sisters. What's The Banger Sisters?

Today. It's with, oh, my God, Collins so you'll have to just edit me out. Oh, it's just like they're like old rockers or something, old groupies or something. I remember this, yeah. Yeah, yeah. And they've got tattoos of love hearts or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And I just love Goldie Hawn in bloody everything and I love Susan Sarandon too. I just think they're both brilliant. And I'm just watching it for my own interest actually because that's something I noticed that Disney Plus have, a lot of those really iconic old sort of films that you watched, you know, from the 90s or whatever. I think they had, is it Touchstone that they own?

Yeah. So, yeah, they did have this era. Like While You Were Sleeping which I know is an ostensibly terrible film but I just, it's part of my kind of childhood or something. I just love that movie. I've watched it a thousand times. I know all the lines. I love it, even though I know it's really problematic.

So, yeah, they just have all those really old school movies that are not even that great but kind of remind me of a time, which is where I want to live at the moment in a bit of nostalgia, which brings me to my next recommendation, James. My goodness, Touchstone did a lot of stuff, yeah. Yeah, they did. They did like signs, you know what I mean, like pretty woman, like so wild hogs.

So all these movies aren't here that like they're basically Disney funded, like Good Morning Vietnam, but aren't like, yeah, that's interesting. Aren't technically Disney. Yeah. I was just so surprised when I saw all these old films come up and I went, oh, my goodness, I love it. Anyway, speaking of sentimental nostalgia, I am listening to, and I talked about this on my newsletter last week,

but I just have to bring it up because literally I've listened to like 20 hours of this podcast. Do you have a newsletter, Claire? You should spruik this newsletter you're talking about. I do have a newsletter. It comes out every Friday. Oh, my goodness. And it's just like an extra little bit of I usually put in a recipe there.

I put in a little bit of a thing about what I'm thinking about during the week and then some extra recommendations. Fantastic. A little bit of a bonus for you. But this week I'm talking about Sentimental in the City with Caroline O'Donoghue and my favourite, Dolly Alderton from the Hilo podcast. Awesome.

Yes, and I talked about it in my newsletter and I'm going to talk about it here because it is just pure joy. It's unadulterated fandom for the show that was Sex and the City. Now, I love it because the chemistry between Caroline and Dolly is beautiful. They're just really great old friends and they're hilarious. Are they going episode by episode? Is that what they're doing?

No, they're doing season by season. So it's a short kind of sub-series of Caroline's actual podcast called Sentimental Garbage where she just goes back and looks at old movies and, you know, even like Mariah Carey and like art and just like is sentimental about it and just fans out. She wrote this beautiful piece about how fandom is often undervalued at the moment and that everyone just really loves to tear stuff down and be super critical and like, oh,

it's not woke enough and all this kind of stuff. And she said there's a really. Or the opposite. It's too woke. Believe me, I hear it every fucking day. Well, there you go. Yeah, exactly. And she said there is something to be said for just bloody loving

something to pieces. Even if it's like weird and problematic and whatever. Exactly, and that's what they feel about Sex and the City and that's how I feel about Sex and the City too because even though I know there's a lot of problematic things in it, this podcast is really about I think because Sex and the City for women of my generation. Older, older women.

In their 30s. I really do think it was very formative. Totally. women of my generation. Older, older women. In their 30s. I really do think it was very formative and just hugely iconic. Who'd even had a Cosmopolitan before Simpsons? Or Manolo Blahnik or whatever they're called or something. But it's not even about that. This show reminds me, and they go season by season. It's not even in chronological order. They kind of talk about their own dating lives as well

and they bring that perspective into the characters themselves. They cry a lot. They tell some really ridiculous jokes. And they talk about each of the character arcs and also because they're both writers, they talk about it from the perspective of the writer's room because the writer's room in Sex and the City was made up of mostly young single women who lived in Manhattan at the time.

Yeah, right. And so a lot of the characters are based on their real lives, which I think is why. Is that why it feels like for the most part real? Yes. Why the movies feel like absolute shit. Oh, God. I don't know.

And they're going to do the first movie and just like skim over the second movie because as really diehard fans of The Sex and the City will feel. The first movie is fine. It's fine. It's just whatever. The second movie is a train wreck and horribly racist and awful. It's also not even true to the characters. All right.

Who are the two gay characters that they're friends with who get married at the start? Anthony and the other one, the bald guy. And there's an episode where they, because there's an episode specifically where they go to hook them up, right? Stanford. Stanford. I've seen every episode of Sex and the City.

What of it? But, and the point made in that episode is like just because we're two gay guys doesn't mean that we're instantly going to like hit it off. You know what I mean? Exactly, which I think is absolutely fair enough. And then that movie opens up with those guys getting married and I'm like, what the fuck is happening? And then from there it just gets worse and worse and worse. And then they bring Aiden back those guys getting married and I'm like, what the fuck is happening? Yeah, and from there it just gets worse and worse and worse.

And then they bring Aidan back in and he's got a family and they ruin him because he cheats on his wife. No, which is so not in character. This is not. That's what Aidan would do. Can we just stop, please? The whole point of this is this wonderful sentimental piece about how incredible the writing is.

And now you're bringing in this horrible movie. We're loving fandom. And the fandom just chooses, as Caroline and Dolly do, to kind of skim over that second movie and not really include it because even the first movie I don't think should be included because the series itself, the six seasons, are perfect in themselves. There's only six? Yeah, but they're very long.

So like some of the seasons will have like 18 episodes. Yeah, right. And some have very short, like eight episodes because Carrie was pregnant. I mean Sarah Jessica Clark was pregnant during that time. Anyway, what I loved so much and I found really interesting about listening to the podcast too was because so many of the men, like the character of Berger in Sex and the City, who's this guy that Carrie dates for a while.

He's no good, mate. No, he's not. And he's ostensibly and they just kind of talk about these characters in such a great way. For example, Berger is a guy who thinks he's someone that loves women and he's someone that is, you know, able to kind of banter and talk to women. And be happy for her success.

Yeah, yeah, exactly, and put up this kind of idea of like this person and this character when in actual fact he's very insecure and he's doing all of that to cover the fact that he doesn't have much of a personality and he also can't actually handle a woman who's successful in her own right. And also he sends her all these horrible mixed signals and it's such a great way of writing kind of the breakdown of a relationship and how you really try and make

something work when you can't make it work and all those fights that couples have at the end of a relationship. They just nail that so well. And the juxtaposition, and I think they do this really well, when the moments are super real, for instance, at the character arc of Miranda and how, I mean, I just love how it's not a sitcom because the characters change and grow with every, and sometimes they hark back to things that happened in season one. Yeah. In season four.

Totally. And so you really believe these women are real fleshed out women. And I know it's a particular lens and everything, but we're suspending all that for fandom. Yeah, and there's weird stuff in it and whatever. Yeah, yeah, and, you know, it absolutely has weird stuff in it. However, what I loved about that, for instance, with Miranda and Caroline made this point that I thought was genius

because a lot of it they do is just pick out the themes of Sex and the City and they talk about it like they're in university studying it as the great American novel that it is. And I actually totally agree with them because what I love about it is that when the realism is at its height, like for Miranda when she has to care for Steve, her husband's mother who has dementia. Yeah.

Or when there's a breakdown, like for instance when. Miranda's mum dies. Yeah. Miranda's mum dies? Yeah, Miranda's mum dies. And she's in the changing room with the. Yeah, yeah, exactly. So they have these really, really strong poignant moments. Samantha gets diagnosed with breast cancer. That last season's pretty strong.

Yeah, yeah. It really is. Season six is just wonderful and each episode is so intricate. She kind of noted that when there's those heightened moments of realism, for instance, when one of the characters has a miscarriage and how that plays out in Charlotte's life, in the character of Charlotte, the glamour is also brought, dialed up to 100. Yeah, right.

So there's this really kind of, which makes it such compelling watching because the clothes and the settings and everything are at this kind of heightened, you know, at that time TV wasn't normally like that and each episode is almost like a film. Yeah. And so when these really like things that happen in real people's lives are depicted with also this amazing like incredible wardrobe and the setting of New York and the way they stylise that, it just is so good.

It's so good. There's so many lines in it. They're amazing. Even Chris Noth, who plays Mr Big, they have so much fun laughing about how little lines he's given and what shitty lines he's given and how the character of Mr Big is basically rubbish. And Dolly makes it so. Yeah, he's two-dimensional, yeah.

He's two-dimensional but what lines he does get given, his comedic timing is so on point. Like there's a scene where Kerry's flirting with the jazz man in the cab and they've been out at a bar or something and they're in the cab and they're all quite drunk and Chris Noss just goes, cabs are bullshit. And that's like the only line they're all quite drunk and Chris Noss just goes, cabs are bullshit. And that's like the only line he has in that whole scene. And it's just so funny because obviously he never gets cabbed

because he's like super wealthy, like a rich dude and he's like, cabs are bullshit. Yeah, he's a driver. He's like a character. Yeah, he's a driver. He's a character. So it's just really like little moments like that are really funny. And it's also just really warm-hearted, this show,

and a really great look at relationships but also just a lovely friendship. They're old friends. So it's nice to look back on that show in like a positive light. It really is and just remind you of a time. And Sex and the City is one of those shows I watch when I just want something comforting too. Sex and the City is one of those shows I watch when I just want something comforting to you. But also there are just so many moments in that that have real depth,

I think, and heart even though there's a lot of frivolity and a lot of sex and a lot of, you know. Yeah, but that's also life, you know what I mean? It's not all and also that is what is missing and that's the second movie, not to bring it back, but there's so many like moments that feel false. Yeah. Like where they choose, like I think it's Miranda and I know you don't want to talk about this, Miranda and Charlotte, they, like, cheers each other,

like how do mothers do it? How do working mothers do it if you don't have any help? And they cheers, like this is for you, the audience, we see you. No, it's just, no. I did want to ask you, though, because they're bringing it back. How do you feel about that? About Samantha? Yeah. They're probably going to kill big, though, so that're bringing it back. How do you feel about that? About Samantha. Yeah.

They're probably going to kill big, though, so that's good. Yeah. Oh, look, of course I'll see it. Of course I will watch it. Yeah. There was a prequel series as well. Yeah, I didn't watch that. Young Carrier, whatever it was called, I don't know.

Look, I just think it's such like. It's like it's a specific time and I don't know, yeah. I will watch it out of interest but I've decided in my head to compartmentalise the series with the two movies and whatever else comes before or after. So I'll watch it out of interest and maybe I have a little bit of spark of hope because, you know, that's me, I always have a bit of a spark of hope that it will be good.

I'd be really interested to know who's involved as well, like behind the scenes. Yeah, absolutely. Because obviously that's going to. Impact it too. Yeah. Yeah, look, I'd be really interested. I'll see to see what happens.

I mean they're really selling it that they've got a great storyline and it's going to be really great. And, look, I really like Sarah Jessica Parker. I think she's super hardworking. I agree. Super sincere and really I think they obviously must have taken away just how terrible that movie was. They could have not.

They could not. So I feel like, you know, it's a hard time in the world at the moment. Hey, man, it happens. Like things sometimes are good. Yeah, and that's what I mean. So I'm holding on to some hope that maybe it'll be good but I have compartmentalised those things because I just think good. Yeah, and that's what I mean. So I'm holding on to some hope that maybe it'll be good, but I have compartmentalised those things because I just think there is so much in that show that

is just so well done and the writing is so great. And there's obviously episodes that aren't great and are problematic, but in general. How can Carrie meet her Tinder date when there's the coronavirus? Oh my God, I can't wait for relevant social issues. Oh, goodness. It's going to be incredible. And lots of soft focus camera work. They need to pull back on that. Actually, there's one moment from the first movie which is really good

where after Big leaves her at the altar and you see her in front of the mirror with her makeup off and she just looks tired and drawn and like not glamorous like at all. Yeah. And I think that was because like a lot of the time, especially that second movie, it's just like what is going on with this filter? Like it's just out of control. Yeah.

Yeah, absolutely. Oh, look, I think. She'd kill big though. Give them that heart attack that they've been threatening. Oh, gosh. Kill him dead, mate. Have it on screen. I'd love it.

Oh, my God, I'd love it. Anyway, anyway, I highly recommend Sentimental in the City with Caroline O'Donoghue and Dolly Alderton. Check it out. Yeah, and I think if you were single as well, I think it would be a really comforting show to listen to because Dolly's single and she writes a column about being single and there's just a lot of relationship advice

and a lot of relationship advice for blokes. Here's a piece of advice that they gave on the show that I wanted to give here before we move on and I would love your opinion on this actually. Okay. They talk about how so often there are characters like Berger, so actual real-life men, who instead of being direct and saying, look, it's just not going to work out for whatever reason,

I just don't think the chemistry is there and just, you know, end the relationship. Yes, yes, yes. Instead of doing that, they kind of string women along or their, and this can happen with women to blokes as well. Oh, yeah. Don't be clear about it and be really wishy-washy and then end up in this horrible thing where women feel like they're kind

of being gaslighted and not sure where they stand with this person and then they kind of, the guy keeps trying to be a good guy because he doesn't want to just bite the bullet and say this isn't right. And I think this happens for women to blokes as well. But would you agree that it's just so much better to be a man about it or a woman about it, be a big grown-up adult and sit next to the person and don't do it in a post-it note or in a text message and just say – At the very least, do it in a phone call.

Yeah, but, you know, actually have the guts to just say it's not working out. I understand. I've never done that. Like I've never like dragged someone along and then – I've been in a relationship for too long if I'm honest. But yeah, I think there is because it's like you're basically, you're delaying the inevitable.

You're trying not to either hurt the other person or also be in a confrontation which it will inevitably lead to because sometimes if you say to somebody, this is man or woman, whoever, whoever you identify, hey, this isn't working out or whatever, you will get like fucking fired up on. It will happen. But it will happen anyway. If that person's going to do it, they're going to do it anyway.

So, you know what I mean? I think being up front is the way. And if you're on the receiving end to be like, okay, like it sucks to hear. No one wants to hear that, obviously. Yeah. Especially if you like a person. But you can't make somebody like you.

They don't owe you anything. They don't have to be with you, you know, so. And it's just kinder in the end, I think, because it is so difficult, but it is kinder to just be upfront about it and break it off like a Band-Aid rather than. You're dumped. Look at that. No, but just, you know.

I'm dumping you. And you know what? There was one. A brunch. Brunch dump. The other thing Dolly said which I thought was such good advice is that if you're breaking up with someone, say, I still really fancy you. I think you're really hot.

I just think that we're not really made relationship material but I definitely still really fancy you from a physical perspective. I would. I know. I'd be like. Or I think you're really fit or something. I would hate that. I'd be like, get fucked.

You don't have to say that. It's fine. You know what I mean? Maybe that's a woman thing but I do feel like I still think you're – maybe it's more like I still think you're gorgeous. Yeah, sure. Fair enough. I think you're stunning, gorgeous, super fit.

Yeah, there's nothing wrong with that. It's just that on a relationship level I'm not ready. I'm not at the moment or whatever reason it is. I don't know if the chemistry is there, but I still totally think you're gorgeous. Like I think there is something in that. I don't know why. I don't know if the chemistry is there, but I still totally think you're gorgeous. Like I think there is something in that. I don't know why. I don't know why. And then disappear.

And if they're like, what, what, just be like, nah, you did your thing. You can separate yourself. If you're clear and there's a cutoff point, you can walk away. You don't need to keep being like meeting up or calling and answering stuff. Just cut it off, man. Yeah, yeah, totally. Anyway, I just think that's the kind of thing to do. Ooh, relationships are tough.

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And just open up your app. Give it a bloody, give it a go. I love it. What have you got in terms of lessons? All right, so I have a very interesting letter this week. I love letters. It's kind of on the theme of sentimental in the city. So I'm going to share it with you, but it's anonymous.

It's from an anonymous source. I'm not allowed to share who it's from. Okay. Is it someone I know? No. It's not about you. Goodness. No, I'm not saying it's someone I know.

I didn't say it was about me. It's just a movie. No, is it anonymous? Not everything's about you. I just meant I'm not saying it's someone I know. I didn't say it was about me. It's just Sunday movies. No, is it not? Not everything's about you. I just meant is it anonymous because it's somebody we know and they don't want it. No, it's not someone we know. Well, no.

Is it about me or not? It's a listener. She's a listener of the show. All right. All right. So I got this email and the tagline is, Hi, I need a favor, James and Claire. It's for love.

For love. For love. For love. Well, we'll see. For love. I don't believe in love, but all right. So this is what she has to say, anonymous. I met someone through the Great Mates group that I've developed strong feelings for and haven't found the right way to say it.

Right. His name is Nathaniel. I've been nervous to admit this to him, but I thought what better way to do it than to have Claire do it for me. Right. truly connected with within the group. He's always listened to me whenever I was struggling with some personal problems and has been a positive light in my life. I know I have a funny way of showing it, but I care about him. I would like also to say that I would suggestable having a person like Nathaniel in your life because he is a great friend. Wow, that is delightful. So where do we go from here?

What's the next? Do they live in a similar area? I have no idea. I don't know. Are they going to meet up via Zoom on text? Via the internet? Yeah. I have no idea.

Big swing. I love it, Claire. I love it. It's a big, bold, romantic gesture. It is. That's right. And I just think you've got to put yourself out there for love. You've got to put yourself out there.

And either way, Nathaniel sounds like a lovely person. That's right. And if Nathaniel wasn't interested, it'd be like, I think you're hot as mate or whatever. You're gorgeous. But I can't. Big relationships. Yeah.

Good on you, man. Either way. Yeah. It's good to put things out in the universe. Love, love, love. Or friendship, which is also very valid and important. As somebody who doesn't like setting up anybody ever Love, love, love, love, or friendship, which is also very valid and important. As somebody who doesn't like setting up anybody ever

and you who like setting up people all the time forever, or you used to a little bit, you've had some successes. I have. I've had some misfires as well, but I have had some successes. There you go. A couple of people have got married. That's right. Yeah.

I mean, not all of them should have, but they're still married. Anyway, well done for putting yourself out there. I think that's, you know, it's hard to make yourself vulnerable. Absolutely it is, yeah. It's fun. It's a hard world. And you know what? Where this goes from here, that's up to you guys.

The ball is in your court. I washed my hands. Because James is freaking out. So we did cut out a bit where I'm like, I don't know whether this will end badly. I don't want to set up a serial killer. I'm not saying either of them are serial killers. He's so paranoid about everything.

I just don't want anyone to get murdered, Claire. Okay. I don't know why that's where your mind went. Our listeners are beautiful. No one's getting murdered. I mean, statistically, one of our listeners is probably a serial killer. God. All right. Well, I don't believe that. All the potential to be, killer. Oh, God. All right.

Well, I don't believe that. Or the potential to be, yeah. I love these guys out there. Honestly, genuinely, it seems delightful and it seems like you guys have made a really good connection and it's probably something that you should discuss at the very least. I think so. Put yourself out there and see what happens. And I wash my hands of this.

And if it doesn't go well, listen to Sentimental in the City. There'll be lots of advice for getting back out there. If it doesn't go well for either of you, you'll both have to leave the group. And also if it doesn't go well, I will forever have to listen to James telling me that he was like right or something. It's not about being right. I want this to work out. It's a good thing, Claire.

It's a good thing. He's so paranoid. He's so paranoid. He's so paranoid. I'm just saying. So negative. Negative, Nellie. I just don't see the problem with being like. You were born under a negative star.

You know, every now and then someone will be like, can you like propose to my fiancé or whatever? And I'm like, probably not because also does your fiancé even know who I am? Or like what if they say no? Or you're a murderer. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Statistically you could be.

There's probably one in there. Anyway, we have been suggestible. We have. If you two would like to write in to suggestible, you can. We would absolutely love you two. If you want to declare feelings, not love, just like an attraction, maybe you want to build upon that. Oh, no, now we've opened the floodgates.

No, we're not opening the floodgates. I haven't opened any floodgates. If anything, I'm trying to pull the floodgates. No, we're not opening the floodgates. I haven't opened any floodgates. If anything, I'm trying to pull the floodgates back together. I'm like, get these doors shut. I know, but I got suckered in. I guess a different series as well because they're both in the group. They both probably listen to this, obviously. Exactly.

So I think, but, you know, yeah. Exactly correct. Anyway, mainly for suggestions, please write in to suggestiblepod at gmail.com and we would love to hear from you Absolutely Alright, we've been Suggestible Pod Thank you colleagues for editing this show Love is real, Claire

Is it, James? Let's find out Why did you point at me like that? Because I'm telling you Alright, I'm going to make you feel real embarrassed right now No, no, don't Whatever you do Whatever, I don't care

And I No, I'm not going to sing when he needs to know you. That's a hard song to sing as well. I love you. That's a hard song to pull off. I love you. What do you want me to say to that? You want me to say the first time I say it is on air?

I've never said it. It's been like 15 years. In 15 years I will not say it. Treat them mean, keep them king. That's what they say, mate. Good. Excellent. Got to keep the chemistry alive. That's right. You've mean, keep them king. That's what they say, mate. Good. Excellent. Got to keep the chemistry alive.

That's right. You've got to keep them guessing. When are you going to say it when you're dead? Yeah, when I'm dead, yeah. I'll leave a tape recorder, press play. You'll like booby trap your coffin and then at your funeral spring out and a big like announcement will go, I love you. And then you'll like fall.

You'll turn to dust. And you'll be like, that's the most romantic thing he's ever done. I've got a rose in my mouth, in my skull. Like a rotting corpse. Yeah. And I'll take it. I'll take whatever I can get, mate. He was one of a kind, you'll say, as you make your way to the dating scene.

All right. See you guys next week. Bye. Sup, fuckers? Did a bit of gardening in lockdown. Dug out some agapanthers. Has anyone ever dug out agapanthers? Yeah.

There's two types of people in this world, those that have dug out agapanthers? Yeah. There's two types of people in this world, those that have dug out agapanthers and those that haven't. A lot of the people that haven't are sitting there going, what the fuck is agapanthers? If you want to get your phone out, Google it. That's your preferred search engine. Get on it.

your phone out, Google it, that's your preferred search engine, get on it. The agapanthus, they're the really long stemmed flowers and it's either like white or purple at the top and they're everywhere. Like you're going to walk past one tomorrow and go, oh agapanthus, Geraldine Hickey, like just. Anyway, I dug out some magapanthers and um so I got a few other things then we dug a bit of a hole and then in its place uh we put a lesbian pit a few people going what is a lesbian pit don't google it um um just don't Google it. I mean, maybe wait till you get home for that. But a lesbian pit, it's just a pit built by lesbians.

Yeah? Of which I am one. Thankfully, so is my partner. and so we built a lesbian pit. Some people you might know it as a like a sunken patio. It's just like a paved area in our backyard that we built. We dug a hole, we paved it with bricks, we put a wall up on one side and in the middle we put a fire pit, put some chairs around it, and that's our lesbian pit, yeah? And then once a month we move those chairs to the side and take out the fire pit and fill it with mud and wrestle. It's a lesbian pit, yeah?

And then once a year we sacrifice men in there. Yeah. Took out the Agapanthers, put in some Penrith Panthers, yeah? Loves it. You guys are the best. I've been Jodie and Hickey. Thank you very much. Good night.

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