Suggestible - Life.

Episode Date: May 6, 2020

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Right, I'm so pregnant I'm like the most pregnant anyone can be Not for long, Claire Because by the time this goes out Spoiler alert We'll have another baby We'll have a little baby Should we say whether the baby's a boy or a girl?

Yeah, we'll have a little girl baby Yeah, that's right A little girl baby A little girl baby into the world That's right Yes, so anyway In case you have never listened to the show before I'm Claire Yes A little girl baby. Yeah, that's right. A little girl baby. A little girl baby into the world. That's right. Yes. So anyway, in case you have never listened to the show before, I'm Claire. Yes.

That son of a B over there is James. What? We are married. You're calling my mum a bitch? No, never. I love your mum. You just said son of a bitch. Oh, no. I said son of a B.

My mum is not a B. I called her a bumblebee. And I love Bs. They flitter about. That's true. They buzz around, buzzing into other people's business. Oh, like my mum, huh? Is this what's happening here?

Oh, no, I didn't mean that. How dare you. However, did you know our dog, podcast dog, does like to eat bees? Yeah, she likes anything. She stalks them in the garden. Anything flying about. She stalks them. I feel it's bad because I feel like the bee populations are in serious trouble at the moment

because, you know, the world's coming to an end. Get faster, bees. People might be able to hear the rain because I've got the door open in here. Should I close that? Probably. I'll close it. All right. Nothing but professionalism.

We had the door open. Now he's closing it. Oh, that is quieter. You could hear the pitter-patter of the rain. That's right. And the pitter-patter of tiny feet soon, Claire. Soon, like tomorrow. Oh, my God.

Anyway, if you haven't listened to the show before, we are married. We recommend you stuff to watch, read and listen to. And never has there been a better time to watch, read and listen to stuff. Yeah, well, that's not inaccurate. That's what we're doing at home. That's right. Would you like me to kick things off this week? Yes, kick away.

Not me, personally. I would never. I'm a gentle giant. I'm a gentle giant. I'm a gentle, slightly small and average man. You are definitely an average man. This is called the show that I want to talk about. It's on Stan Australia. Stan.

I don't know where it is in other parts of the world, but this is where it is here. And you can use a VPN, ExpressVPN, if you want to support the show. We're not getting paid for this episode. I don't endorse anything unless I get money for it. It's where it is here. And you can use a VPN, ExpressVPN, if you want to support the show. We're not getting paid for this episode. I don't endorse anything unless I get money for it. Anyway, but you can watch Stan using ExpressVPN. But it's called Normal People,

and the series is based on a book by Irish author Sally Rooney. She came into prominence a couple of years ago with her debut novel and then this follow-up on Normal People, which again was turned into this 12-episode series. I think I might have even talked about Normal People on this very episode. I'm going to, after seeing this, I'm going to read some of her books, hopefully. Did you guys hear that? Because he never reads any books. I read books.

What books? You read picture books. I recently read the novelization of Shadows of the Empire for my Shadows of the Empire retrospective that came out many months ago. That's what I mean. But anyway, you should read Normal People. I mean. But anyway, you should read Normal People. I will. So the series follows Marianne and Connell,

they're Irish high school students at the tail end of secondary school and then into their university years. And the idea behind these characters is he's kind and shy and he's in a cool group. He's also a massive coward and she's considered abrasive but also highly intelligent. And they start up this relationship because she's perceived a certain way and doesn't have friends.

And like I said, people don't really like her. He wants to kind of keep this quiet. She's really happy and really in love with him and quite open about how she feels about him. And he clearly feels at her the same way, but has trouble expressing that publicly. And that's kind of how things kick off, which is crazy because they're also both good-looking people. But, you know, you've got to take that, you know,

you've got to put that aside. In the book though they play it that she's quite abrasive and odd and she's a loner. And she definitely comes across that way. Yeah. But she's not the kind of person who you were dating. People wouldn't be like, what are you doing with her? You'd be like, yeah, of course.

Yeah, and also she has a very difficult family. Yes. Which is kind of part of it as well because it's a small town they grow up in. Yeah. So they start with this relationship. Again, he wants to keep it quiet. And, again, I feel like I always say this without spoiling it, like it deals with, you know, sex and high school relationships

and mental health and class divide and family. you know, sex and high school relationships and mental health and class divide and family. It's quite bleak in parts and quite kind of it captures that feeling of being in high school and like heartbreak and that kind of thing and the misunderstanding and also the choices you make as a teenager which you wouldn't make as an adult because, you know, when you are a kid, you know, you kind of there's people that you like but then you're like, can I talk to this person because I know

other people hate this person and I don't want to be – and they're the target and if I associate with them then will I become a target? It's this whole thing. Yeah, because it's a dog-eat-dog world being a teenager. Absolutely it is. It sucks. And then when you're an adult you're just like, fuck everyone, who cares? You like who you like.

And you retreat into your house and never talk to anybody. And it's not to say that him doing that is wrong. It's just the kind of person that you are at a certain age, you know. Yeah, totally. And it kind of comes with the regret that he does from those actions comes along with the series. That feeling of that, and I can't wait to watch this series. I haven't watched it yet because I loved the book.

And I sometimes when I know what's coming in the show, I kind of go, oh, I already know this story, even though I know a TV adaptation is often quite different. Yeah. But I just wanted to go touch on very briefly that feeling of being a teenager and trying to find it, fit in, trying to find your place, being on the outside. Grace Petrie, that is a singer songwriter that I love, and she has a song called Black Tie.

And I just think it encapsulates that exact feeling. a song called Black Tie and I just think it encapsulates that exact feeling and she sort of sings about writing a letter to her year 11 self in her year 11 hell that everything's going to be okay. I just, I don't know, I just love that song and I just think it, you know, if you knew at 17 when everything is horribly hard and difficult that actually you would find your place and you would be this person that, you know, found friends that, you know, were actually right up your street and loved you for who you are. And, you know, for her it was also about coming to terms with her sexuality and kind of thing as well.

And that's why it's called Black Tie because she is going to a formal. Anyway, I don't know. I know this is veering off track. But what I'm trying to say is I think i i just i remember that feeling so well yeah and i think this deals with that really well yeah it's on that cringe edge she's quite she's quite young she's not she's like 29 so she's not like she also has another book conversations with friends yes that's the first that's her day yeah which i think is actually better than normal okay cool maybe they'll make that into a series as well. But maybe they already have.

But no, I think I really like it. I think it's really great. And it's not like a very uplifting kind of rollercoaster of a show. As we often talk about with things, it's like it's low stakes and it's personal relationships and things like that. And I just love it. I think it's really great and it's really well crafted and it's really well acted and it's just terrific. Yeah looks really it's on my list of things it's funny because

I maybe I just recognized it from when you talked about it um but I saw it I didn't really think anything of it and I just kind of put it on while I was editing and initially I'm like oh yeah it's like high school whatever and then I was really because it follows their lives as they go to university and that kind of where I'm currently at. So I'm still got a little bit to finish it. But I'm actually really looking forward to getting back to it. Yeah, the book's really great too. It's ruining my editing.

That's how good it is. Oh, my God. Yeah. It must be brilliant. Yeah. Well, that kind of ties into sort of because the character in that, the female protagonist and her name, I can't remember because baby brain because the baby is literally kicking me.

Her name is, hang on, I just had that open. Sorry, Marianne. Marianne, yes. So Marianne's character is obviously she's very, very intelligent but she's quite difficult and driven and complex. I wouldn't even say difficult. I think she's just kind of like that's the way that people see her. But people don't treat her well and that's not an excuse to like be terrible,

but the way they talk to her and the way that she reacts I feel like is quite justified. And she's in an environment that's not suited to the kind of person she is at the age that she is and the things that she's interested in. But I think also that's part of – But I think he's also like that but in a different way. Like he's put on this facade because he is also highly intelligent and well-read but he's pushed a lot of that aside to fit in.

Which I think is a really common experience in high school. Oh, yeah, definitely, yeah. And something I didn't understand because I wear my heart on my little bloody sleeve, mate, and I really struggled in high school for that reason because I didn't really understand that everyone was pretending to be someone they were not and I didn't struggle because I was the coolest kid in school no I definitely kind of like you push stuff aside and you kind of yeah yeah where I didn't get that I didn't get everyone was kind of in on this thing where everyone's just

like wearing the right type of shoes and pretending to be people they're not for whatever reason to fit in or to like go to the right parties. And so I was just always like walking around, stepping on everybody's toes and being like difficult. To be fair though, a lot of people in your year level were absolute fucking dropkicks. Well, I don't know. No, I don't think that's true.

I think I just didn't get the rules of being a teenager and I was really bad. And like just said what I thought but then also was really awkward and shy and had terrible haircuts and anyway, all the things I just hate about you, teenager. So anyway, what I was going to say, coming back to that whole idea of her being difficult and I agree that maybe she's not difficult but I also think sometimes women who are highly intelligent

and say what they think are labelled as difficult, not that they are, just that that's the kind of feedback they get. And my sister sent me this really interesting article called Someday My Prince Will Leave Me For Someone More Low-Key. It's from the New York Times and it's an article. Oh, my God. This is like an insight into my mind, Claire. I know.

He is. He's going to find someone more low-key than me, guys. Who's more low-key than you, Claire? Nobody. I'm so relaxed. I made you paint my toes last week live um this is written by alexis soloski and it's just a really funny clever article looking at the trope of um the difficult woman in romantic comedies that gets left for the like meg ryan s character who's like low-key more easygoing and kind of bumbly and like

falls over and stuff because she's like trying to plan a wedding and he's like daydreaming and she's like hey yeah he's like i was thinking about another girl or whatever yeah and part of him is also like maybe you should maybe you should help yeah exactly and often in these kind of movies the that female character um who's kind of i guess the obstacle to the lovebirds falling in love is often highly driven, really successful in their chosen career. Often they like are a curator of a gallery or something. And so they're often very busy. Like there's a character like that, Tom Hanks's fiance in You've Got Mail is like that. And when he ends up with Meg Ryan's character, there's the character of Ducky from Four Weddings and a Funeral

who is in love with Hugh Grant's character. Oh, yeah. But it's like unfulfilled and he ends up falling in love with like very flighty Carrie. I don't like that movie. And, yeah, I know. So there's – and they're all written by men, obviously. They're kind of this trope of the idea.

Hey, not all men, Claire. Come on. No, but those characters are written by men. Anyway, but, you know, so it's always this idea that, like, the really highly intelligent sort of woman who demands a lot from her man is not the one that gets the prince in the end. Anyway, it is a trope. But within the article she looks at a lot of different films

and one of them is Overboard with Kurt Russell and Goldie Hawn. Oh, you watched that the other night. I did watch it and I think it's on Netflix or maybe on Stan. It depends where you are in the world. It does. Who knows? But you can definitely get it. It's really old.

It's from what, like the 80s maybe? It is from the 80s. But it's such a fun watch and even though it's very problematic in areas and Goldie Hawn's character is like a very extensively rich, difficult woman. And then she gets a brain injury and becomes this like nice woman and suddenly Kurt Russell falls all over there and she looks after his children.

Yeah, he tricks her. That's kind of like he kind of kidnaps her. It's very problematic. However, it's super fun and Goldie Hawn is hysterical in it. They're a great team and they're still married, I believe. Yeah, they've got great chemistry in it and it's just quite funny and fun and I just really enjoyed it. Actually, the grandpa from Gilmore Girls is in it too.

Oh, really? I don't know what the actor's name is but his name's Richard. He's dead in real life, isn't he? Yeah, I think he is. Anyway, but he's in it as her husband. It's just great. So I would recommend reading that article from the New York Times and then going and watching Overboard.

There's also a remake, but it's a gender switch or something. Ooh, I see. Well, I don't know. I can't recommend that one. I haven't watched it. But anyway, it's a fun old time. And I am just loving going into those kind of 80s and 90s movies, like the rom-coms.

Bloody love it. Yeah, right, yeah. I love it. All right, so that's my recommendation. Yes. Woo-hoo. Do you have another one over there? No, wasn't that my recommendation?

Oh, no. No. Well, your article was your actual recommendation? Yeah, and Overboard with Kurt Russell. What are the chances of those tying into the thing that I said? Yeah, I know. I have got another one, though, if you'd like me to continue. No, no, I'm happy to go.

Or you can go, whatever. All right. Whatevs, mate. Whatevs, mate. Whatevs, mate. Whatevs, mate. Fine, I'll go. I'm easy going. You're not easy going.

You're high maintenance. Whatever you want to do, mate. The other trope that I know you hate is often the women are also a little quirky and they're also very free. You know, that's like the sister that pops up in Love Actually. Yeah. And also in About Time. Like you're not a real person.

Yeah. Yeah, but a lot of the women in those type of rom-coms are, they're kind of like a bit, a very effervescent. Amelie and that kind of like. Free and quirky and yeah. And they like kind of sweep up the men into their like, you know, love of life and zest for living and they don't get bogged down in little things like planning guest lists for the wedding.

What's his name? Does that song Life? What's it called? Oh, David O'Doherty. David O'Doherty does a song called Life and he talks about what it would really be like. Maybe Collings can play that song at the end. But he talks about what it would be like to date Amelie

from the movie Amelie. And it's like you just want to pay the internet bill. And she's like, no, I folded it into a little paper boat and I put it on a river. And it's like, fucking Jesus, Amelie. Yeah, I know, like she buys a cow. Fucking Jesus. I can't imagine.

Yeah, it's so funny. That is actually one of my favourite songs. I love that song so much because it sums up so much of everything. Yeah, and I just love – If you're broken, you probably won't like it. If you are finding life to be super hard. Yeah, and I just love – If you're broken. Yeah. If you're finding life to be super hard. Yeah. Yeah, actually, well, on that note, can I share with you my – Yeah, go for it.

All right. So I don't know if anyone else out there is finding life particularly difficult at the moment. I think everyone's cruising. They'll like that. Yeah. It is bloody hard and for lots and lots of different reasons. For extroverts, let me just say this is a bloody nightmare,

being at home all the time, never being able to see anyone, and Zoom just doesn't cut it for me. Anyway, obviously there are lots of things going on for people health-wise and work-wise and money-wise and kids-wise and family-wise and, you know, the list goes on. You can get anything you need with Uber Eats. Well, almost, almost anything. So no, you can't get snowballs on Uber Eats,

but meatballs and mozzarella balls, yes, we can deliver that. Uber Eats, get almost, almost anything. Order now. Product availability may vary by region. See app for details. I follow someone who cheers me up a lot, and name is Marion Keyes. She's an author, an Irish author and best-selling. My goodness, amazing. Her books are brilliant, but she's just really funny. She's a really, really funny woman. She's had a lot of her own mental health issues,

which she's overcome by learning how to cook. And she also went through a phase where she was like restoring old furniture, but she's just very funny. And she also went through a phase where she was like restoring old furniture. But she's just very funny. And I think sometimes when people have been through really dark periods in their life, she has struggled with alcoholism as well. You come out the other side and you just have to laugh at yourself and they have a way of kind of writing about life in a beautiful way. Right.

And she posted this poem today. Yes, James, I'm going to make you listen to a poem. Great, great. Are you ready? Yes. It's a really nice poem. Yes, James, I'm going to make you listen to a poem. Great. Great. Are you ready? Yes. It's a really nice poem. It's really good. It's touching. If you think you want to be moved by this in any way, you are sorely mistaken.

It's by a kind Irish philosopher called John O'Donoghue. And I sort of fell down a rabbit hole of his work as well after I read this from Marion Keyes. And he's gorgeous. He's also passed away since, but his poetry is beautiful. On the day when the weight deadens on your shoulders and you stumble, may the clay dance to balance you. When the canvas frays in the corral of thought and a stain of ocean blackens beneath you, may there come across the waters a path of yellow moonlight to bring you safely home.

May the nourishment of the earth be yours. May the clarity of light be yours. May the fluency of the ocean be yours. May the protection of the ancestors be yours. And so may a slow wind work these words of love around you, an invisible cloak to mind your life. Wow. Very moving.

You're so annoying. No, I'm very moving. It's beautiful. He's Celtic and so a lot of his poetry is really connected in with the land and the world and it's beautiful. I don't know, I find it really comforting. I actually happen to have something open in front of me which ties into what you're talking about.

No. No, it does. I follow this Reddit account called Am I the Arsehole? It's a Twitter account, sorry, and they basically post people who like say a thing and they're like, like this confrontation happened, but am I actually in the wrong here? And this one is Am I the Arsehole for being annoyed by my girlfriend's zest for life? And so he's saying things like yesterday I went for a hike

and she was constantly admiring nature. Like the grass has reached an impressive height. Look at these baby ducks. Nature is healing my soul. Look at this panorama. Breathtaking. And he's like, obviously she's having a great time. She's having the time of her life. I get it. But like, they're just ducks and hills that I don't care. And I'm tired of looking at everything like five times a day. That's really funny to me. That is the difference between me and you. That right there in a nutshell is the difference between me and you. Yeah, you're not like, look at these.

Like if I saw baby ducks, like I'm there for it, man. I cried. Last time I saw baby ducks in the park, to be fair, I was pregnant. I cried. No, I think I do admire. I like nature. Nah. Nah.

Nah. You're a real piece of crap. You do not in the same way that I do. I have to literally go out in nature every day or I get sad. I sometimes just sit and look at the sky for like half an hour. I do nothing else. I just watch the clouds roll by. I look at the birds.

I admire them every day. I look at my garden and I potter around. The only thing that you do in the garden is swear and like yell at the lawnmower. I don't yell at the lawnmower. I love that lawnmower. I have never seen you once wandering into our garden to admire my plants. I sit out there and our studio space like opens up to the garden.

I like it out here. It's good. No, you like it in the studio with your television. With the doors open and the sun beaming in. Are you serious? You used to work next to our vacuum cleaner in a spare bedroom. The only reason you work in – Because I had to.

No, the only reason you work in this studio is because I designed it so that it would open to the garden. You designed it. You're a real piece of work. And I love it, but you just happen to notice it. I love how you're commandeering nature and being like, no, I love nature more than you. You don't get to decide how much another person likes nature.

I know how much I love nature more than you. I know this for another reason. It's the same with food. You said to me once with food, you could just have a tablet and never have to eat during the day. You would do it. Maybe my mum's a terrible cook. Got her.

No, she's not. She's a wonderful cook. Don't say that about your mum. But a lot of food, like a lot of things, it's just like it's fuel. And if food's really good, that's great. But if it's not, it's just fuel. That's what I mean. Whereas to me, every meal is a big decision.

That's ridiculous to be like every food. Every meal is a big decision. That's ridiculous to be like every food. Every meal is a big decision. I know it's a big decision. Because I love it so much. But not every meal. It's the same with nature. But not every meal is that and not everything in nature is breathtaking. When do you ever go for a – you would never just go for a wander.

Your favourite time to walk is in the dark when you can't even see the nature. It's not about seeing. It's about the quietness of it, Claire. Exactly, and the dark. I can't believe see the nature. It's not about seeing. It's about the quietness of it, Claire. Exactly, and the dark. I can't believe. At a crucial point, you would much prefer to walk in the dark by yourself or with your friend Mason talking without looking at the nature. You can never once just go for a stroll during the day.

You're a ridiculous human being. I can't believe. I am so right about this. I can't believe you're even arguing about this. You are commandeering nature. You're trying to take nature away from me and claiming nature for your own. You don't own nature. You're not mother nature.

Okay, another point. We hiked Kilimanjaro, ostensibly the highest mountain in Africa. Not ostensibly, it is. It is. And my goodness, it was really difficult and tricky. There was a lot of nature happening. When we got to the bottom after six days of hiking and we'd worked really hard, you said, I didn't even need to do that. I knew I could do it all along. No, you were like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. That's not what happened. You said,

were you like, were you like, were you glad that you did it? Were you like, you know, were you overwhelmed with like a sense of accomplishment? And I was like, well, look, it was one of those things that I was pretty confident that I could do it. So when I did it, I wasn't like, oh, my God, I've done it. I didn't think I could do it. I went, yeah, I did it. I thought I could do it and then I did do it. Yeah, exactly.

You never once were like, you were like, I don't know, I guess we've done it. Like you just went. You want to do it again? No, I've done it. Well, not now. I'm bloody a thousand years pregnant. Yeah, but if you had the opportunity, would you do it again? Would you do it again? No, I've done it. Well, not now. I'm bloody a thousand years pregnant. Yeah, but if you had the opportunity, would you do it again?

Would you do it again? Yeah, I would. No, you wouldn't. I would. You absolutely would not. Anyway, you do not love nature. I sometimes just stand on our veranda and breathe in the air. It's a backyard in the suburbs.

You're talking about like it's this open vista. It's just a garden. Yeah, no, but it's beautiful and and we get all these gum trees and we get the beautiful fresh air i just sometimes stare at my tomato plants well i'm look okay you just don't like nature the way i like it and that's fine and everyone has to like everything the same you like watching avengers shoot each other on the tv and playing old versions of james bond i have to do that. It's for my caravan of garbage. I am just a much more evolved person.

This is ridiculous. You are being outrageous. I am not being out of my mind. You spend so much time indoors, probably even more than me. Are you serious? Yes. No. No, that is absolutely, that is totally bogus. Totally not true.

The only reason I spend more time indoors at the moment is because I'm bloody pregnant as all hell and I can barely walk to the corner store. Excuses, excuses. If you really love nature, you'd be out there. I am out there in nature. Yeah, but if you really loved it. Oh my God. Anyway, my second recommendation is for the YouTube.

What time is it? It's fine. Okay, we've got a bit of time. Cool. Okay, so this is a YouTube channel called Pony Smasher. And we need to let this go so I can say this next thing, Claire. It's actually created by David Sandberg, who you might know. He's a director.

He directed the movie Shazam. Shazam. You should watch that. It's a fun superhero movie. But he didn't start that way. A lot of his earlier work was making short horror films on YouTube. One of them is called Lights Out, which was eventually made into a feature. It's a really spooky short film, but basically it's a woman in a house. And when she turns off the lights, she sees the shadow of a woman like in a feature. It's about this – it's a really spooky short film, but basically it's a woman in her house and when she turns off the lights,

she sees the shadow of a woman like in her hallway and when she turns the lights on, the shadow's not there anymore. Does that make sense? Yeah. It's really good. He then went on to make Annabelle Creation and Shazam, as mentioned, but he's got this new short because he's been quarantined called Shadows and that's good in itself as well, but what he does,

he also made like a 16, 20-minute video on all the behind-the-scenes stuff. And he just made it with his wife just in the house in quarantine. And the problems that went into making the short film because filmmaking is problem-solving. The video is called Good Enough. So a lot of the times you'll get to a certain point on the video and then go, this is good enough. I need to move on to the next thing.

You know what I mean? You just kind of have to let it go. And he did this really interesting video also called the problem solving of filmmaking. And he talks about how in Shazam, all the little things that you've got to come up with them on the way to kind of fix things. And one of them is there's a moment where the character is like flying through a shopping mall. They forgot, they didn't realize, but in the background, there's just crew standing there, like crew of the film with their, like all their gear, like their filmmakers stuff, you know and whatever and so they just cgi'd shopping bags in

their hands so you couldn't see them so it's just little things like that like things that you don't anticipate that you're going to end up then fixing uh kind of as you go along and he's also got another video about the the truth of test screenings and how that happens and how that affects a movie because often they are changed like they'll show up to an audience and go i don't understand that character so they've got to go back and like change things and whatever anyway it's called pony smasher so he's like a professional hollywood filmmaker but he still does a lot of these indie things and he gives you kind of insight into how to make things in a way that you don't often get with filmmakers you know that's really interesting yeah and it's also interesting because people come to filmmaking from like different

places now i recently did an interview interview with Michael Shanks who also started on YouTube where, yeah, it's just interesting that there's all these different ways if you wanted to make it in because I know a lot of people listening to this are doing like film and things like that and various other creative endeavours. Correct. So, yeah, there you go. I think that sounds really interesting.

It is interesting. Thank you. What's your last thing before we can all kill ourselves? All right. My last thing. Two things. One, I watched that underwater movie that you recommended with Kristen Stewart. Yeah.

And you didn't really like it. And TJ Miller. No. There's plenty of pregnancy in Reflux. I can't even talk. I enjoyed it. And I actually enjoyed it because, you know, I like an underwater movie. And like I said, it's not amazing.

The only problem I have is that she's in her undies for like most of the movie and it seems ridiculous. But I also feel like Kristen Stewart is the kind of person if she didn't want to do it. What, that would like do an action movie in her undies? No, but she's the kind of person who would be like, I'm not doing that if she didn't want to do it. Yeah, and I'm not saying she didn't want to do it.

I just think it seemed a little ridiculous that she's running from like a weird alien undersea monster, usually always in her undies. Got to do what you got to do. Anyway, yeah, so thank you for that recommendation. I'm happy to do it. My other recommendation is a book that's just come out. It's called A Bigger Picture. It's written by Malcolm Turnbull who happens to be our former Australian.

An absolute failure of a human being. No, he's not. He's fascinating. He's alive. No, he's not at all. Why do you say that? He's a billionaire. Because he botched it. He blew it. He had a chance to fix things and he didn not. He's fascinating. He's alive. No, he's not at all. Why do you say that? He's a billionaire. Because he botched it.

He blew it. He had a chance to fix things and he didn't. Okay. Well, this book really details a lot about why that happened. So he was a former Australian Prime Minister. I think he's a really charismatic, really intelligent, highly fascinating human with a humongously interesting life story. And so this is his life story.

It does deal with what happened just recently where there was a leadership spill and he stepped down as leader of our liberal party for Scott Morrison, who is our current PM. But I just think his life story in general is just crazy. Like the things that he's done before getting into politics even is just diabolical. He's a brilliant writer and it's just a fascinating, fascinating book. So it's called A Bigger Picture and I highly recommend it. He worked with the Packers. He's been a lawyer.

He did these like incredible things and he didn't come from anything and he's made his fortune. And I think I have always really liked Malcolm Turnbull and even though in some ways. He blew it. He blew it. But he also did manage to get marriage equality through yeah under duress he put it to a public vote because he didn't have the guts to put it up

himself yeah i know but james there's a lot about that political party that is uncovered in this book that i think allows you to understand what happened to him and i think he talks a lot about his mental health in it too and i just think it's a really fascinating read. So I think life is always more complicated than you think. I agree but he also wrote it. So forgive me for saying like take it with a grain of salt. No, I just think you don't need to like write people off entirely. I'm not writing off entirely but I just think. You haven't read any of the stuff.

I'm not talking about writing. I'm just saying he had an opportunity to come in and do something and he sold out on a lot of his values for what? He barely accomplished anything. No, well, because this was his second go around the tree as leader. And the first time he tried to get things done and was ousted immediately. And this time he was ousted but just slightly later. No, later after he had accomplished things.

So the problem is the infighting within these parties is just diabolical and the kind of power playing that's going on behind the scenes is really difficult. So anyway, I think it's really interesting and very telling. He shares a lot of really juicy secrets and gossip about the Liberal Party in Australia, that's our conservative party. So interesting. Anyway, so that book has just come out, A Bigger Picture.

Cool. Cool. All right. Is that the show then? That is the show. Do you have a review for us? No, I don't actually. Just kidding.

I do. This has been a very explosive episode, Claire, wouldn't you say? Oh, yes. There's been a lot of arguing. Lindsay Mary says on E97 says on – you can just do it in app. It's so great. You just open it far away. Five stars if you can. It says, I have ulterior motives. That's the title of this. And it says, I rate this podcast five stars, brackets out of five. Excellent banter. It'll make you laugh. It'll make you cry. It'll make you believe that relationships aren't necessarily

a lie. Wow. Well, what, what about not after this episode? Anyways, I'm writing this to see if James will share his muesli recipe. Cheers. Look, I'm happy to share my muesli recipe, but I think should I offer up something else when I'm currently eating for breakfast instead? You should because you no longer eat muesli. I don't eat it anymore. You don't believe in cereal anymore.

I believe in it. He's a changed man. Who is he? Who even is he? I'm trying to cut the carbs as much as I can. You it anymore. You don't believe in cereal anymore. I believe in it. He's a changed man. Who is he? Who even is he? I'm trying to cut the carbs as much as I can. You know what I mean? Cut the carbs, mate. Cut the carbs.

So what I do, I get 200 grams of coconut yogurt. Can I just say, this is disgusting. No, it's really good. I've tried it. It's gross. She doesn't know what she's talking about. I do. It's gross.

She doesn't even love nature. She pretends to. Let him just tell you what's in it and then you be the judge. 200 grams of coconut yogurt, depending on the size of the banana, but like a medium to smallish banana. Cut it up into slices. Don't give me a big banana. You don't want a whole big banana.

No, that's too much because sometimes they're too big. You know what I mean? You want something reasonably sized that you can manage. I like them to be on the smaller side. Oh, really? That's very interesting. Well, I wouldn't know anything about that. And the other thing is, so you cut that up.

You probably want to start with a banana. After you've done that, two tablespoons of oats, rolled oats, not toasted, straight up because if they're toasted, they add a sugar and a bunch of stuff to them. You don't want no sugar, mate. One tablespoon of shredded coconut. One tablespoon of sugar-free peanut butter. Yeah, there's no joy in this bowl.

There's just so much joy in it. And then one tablespoon of honey. You know, like a good brand if you preferable. And then you mix that all together and it's this delightful kind of muesli coconut. It is brown slop in a bowl. It's really good. I want people to try it.

And also if you don't want that particular yogurt, you could try a different yogurt. You could try like a Greek yogurt. You don't want to do like a flavoured yogurt because often there's added sugar. But if you can find one that doesn't have that, it would work with a vanilla yogurt. You know what I mean? Like something along those lines. Yeah, it's gross.

It's not gross. It's terrific. Yuck. This is similar to that smoothie that you drank for ages that had a whole lot of coconut milk in it. Yeah, I drank that for six months and now I can never drink it again. Yeah, it's so gross. Yeah, come back to me in six months when I've got a new one.

Anyway, so thank you so much for the review. Oh, you're welcome. And also you didn't give him your muesli recipe, which actually was a good recipe. I believe it was a she. Oh, wait, Lindsay? That could be a boy was a good recipe. I believe it was a she. Oh, wait, Lindsay? That could be a boy or a girl actually. Who knows?

Thank you very much, Lindsay. All right. Well, I also have an email. You can email the show with your recommendations. We would love you to at suggestiblepod at gmail.com. You can even email in with your reviews of James's breakfast. What do we even call that? Breakfast.

Bowl of sloppy poop. What the hell are you talking about over here? It does look a bit like that. I'm not going to lie, guys. This is from Sam Evans. Hi, Claire and James. Claims. Jer. Calamity James.

I love it. I recently watched Time Trap on Netflix as it was on the top ten for that day and I really don't know how I feel about it. If you don't know what it is, then the general premise is a professor goes missing looking for someone, some kids go and look for him. When I say kids, I mean literal children and maybe three young adults. Then we find out the time in the cave moves slower that time

than time outside. It's basically a nothing movie where most of it is in a cave, but it hooked me. I both liked it and disliked it at the same time. Time trap, did he say? That's the name of Michael Shanks' thing as well. I've never heard of this. No, me neither.

I hope you watch and enjoy. Thank you guys for the wonderful podcast and also, James, please thank Mason from me for your more successful but just as enjoyable podcast. Also, if you actually want to watch a good movie, in my opinion, then go for Upgrade. Yeah, I interviewed the director. You did.

I hope all four of you stay safe. Thanks, Sam. He also did Invisible Man, the new one. Ooh. I still haven't watched that because it's a spooky time. That's great. And I'm scared I'll, like, scare the baby out of me. Well, it's the risk you've got to take when you're watching great content. Well, I could probably do it now.

She's bloody sitting on my organs. Oh, Time Trap isn't on Australian Netflix, so I'm going to have to use the old VPN. Oh, but you can. No sponsors. All right, that's the show for this week. Oh, but you can. No sponsors. All right. That's the show for this week. Now, we might be taking a break.

It just depends how everything goes. So we might be back next week. We may very well not. It's really very much up in the air at this point. But of course, if you do have recommendations, we love them, don't we, Claire? And we love reviews and we love content. And I guess we also love each other despite our constant arguing. I love you more than nature. More than nature? We love news and we love content. And I guess we also love each other despite our constant arguing.

I love you more than nature. More than nature? Well, I love nature so much that I love you less than nature. Why have you got your hands on you? Take that. Just on a side note, if you're not already, Sam Neill is doing amazing things on Instagram. Oh, he is. He's one of the few celebrities who's not doing horrible crap.

Just a bloody legend. He's doing like what I was doing, playing music badly, but doing it better than me on a ukulele and talking to ducks, and I love it. So if you need a buck up, listen to us. And then if we're not around for a while because we're in baby land, go look at Sam Neill on Instagram. Anyway, we have been Ask Jess for Pod.

You can follow us on Twitter and Facebook and Instagram and all the things. Thank you, real colleagues, for editing this show. Sorry about all the arguing this week. Nah, it's not our fault. It's your bloody fault. It's the way we were raised. You just have to accept the way you are. I accept the way I am.

You don't like food and you have no zest for life or the environment. And I'm a better human than you. I accept that. Okay. That you're a big liar. All right, see you next week maybe. See you on the flip side. Goodbye.

Bye. Bye. Life. Life. Life. Life. Life. Don't get me wrong, there's brilliant bits.

Like when you see something you haven't seen for a while you get drunk unexpectedly or you you do drunk cycling or you read a book that's incredible you listen to an unbelievable podcast yeah there you go you do an incredible show you go to an incredible show but very often you're back outside again. You find that someone set your bike on fire. That actually happened to me recently after a charity gig I was doing. Why would you set my fucking bike on fire? How do you even set a fucking bike on fire?

They must have brought petrol or lighter fluid into the city to specifically let light bikes on fire. And it was raining. Oh, Dublin. Somewhere over the rainbow.

I bet life is just exactly as hard as it is on this side of the rainbow. And on that side you can't even see the bloody rainbow. It's like an optical illusion caused by water meeting light at a specific angle. And who knows? Maybe it's even more homophobic on the other side of the rainbow. So let's just stay on this side. And let's all of us, even just for today,

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