Suggestible - Life. Am I right?

Episode Date: June 10, 2021

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Starting point is 00:00:36 where Claire's like, I can't go to a wedding and I'm not caught in a bear trap. That will all make sense in the context of the podcast if you listen to it. If you skip over it, it won't, but you're allowed to do that and skip to the suggestions. Hello, James. You didn't do your blingity-blong-blong-blong.
Starting point is 00:00:52 Bong bing. Oh, you're sad because you're missing out on your best friend's wedding. Yeah, I have no bongs or bings left. I've got zero bongs or bings. If you've got a bong or a bing, then you can lend Claire. Please email in at suggestiblepod at gmail.com. Because you're a bit down in the dumps because your best friend's getting married this weekend. We have been subjected to a Victorian statewide lockdown
Starting point is 00:01:16 as a result of some outbreaks of the coronavirus, not a different outbreak. A monkey didn't bite of whatever happened in the movie outbreak and this is yeah about where we're coming out of lockdown but it's on friday but it's a little too late isn't it it would say to fly to get to the wedding by sunday look i've been i've been contemplating going selma and louise style in a car yeah off a cliff? Yeah, off a cliff. Yes, off a cliff but also just, you know, driving over the border secretly but I can't. Could you make it now?
Starting point is 00:01:51 If you left now, would you be able to make it in a couple of days? Technically, I Googled Mapster and it's like 35 hours. So you could do it. That's a two-day trip. If you drove solidly. If I didn't sleep. You're doing 16 and a half, 17 hours a day, sorry. Correct.
Starting point is 00:02:04 You could do it. And like bearing in mind, it's like right through the middle of Australia, which is all desert. Yeah. And there's like very little petrol stations and all those things. Also, there's border checkpoints everywhere. Yes. But that being said, up that middle, up that road,
Starting point is 00:02:21 go straight up to Darwin, you can go like 200 the entire way. That's true. It'd be safe. It'd be good. I'd be emotional. I'd be safe. Definitely just driving up there. People lose their minds on that road because it's just like,
Starting point is 00:02:34 have you done it? Have you done that road? Yeah, I've done the Gant, which is this car, this train that goes up the centre of Australia, which followed the track. Just a little Australian trivia for you. Before the train was there delivering goods from, you know, the main cities of Melbourne and Sydney or Melbourne and Adelaide
Starting point is 00:02:51 all the way up the middle, there was a whole lot of Afghani people who came with their camels and rode camels up to deliver goods to Darwin. Yeah, and now there's a train instead. It's called the Gann. And I did it and it was real fun and also trivia side note to that story um one of the most uh not like problematic creatures like feral creatures that live in australia are actually camels yes it's just like thousands and thousands of wild camels that like will set free by the afghanis once the train became established,
Starting point is 00:03:25 who are now just loving themselves sick in the giant desert in the centre of Australia and causing havoc. They're having a great time up there. They're bloody causing havoc, but they're having a great time. Are they one hump or two hump camels? I think they're all called Alice and they have two humps. That's interesting to know. Alice the camel has two humps.
Starting point is 00:03:42 Alice the camel has a bing, Alice the camel has a big bobbing. I found my big bob. She must have felt the good vibes people sent your way. Now this show is called Suggestible. We suggest things. We say, hey, we watch this thing and we think maybe it might be worth watching. Sometimes we give a negative recommendation, but not often. It's a positive show.
Starting point is 00:04:01 We're positive. Filled with bright light and sunshine, Oh, God. Which is why I don't like it. James is taking on my role this week because he knows I'm seriously lacking in the positivity department. I've been mooching around the house like a big old mooch. It's true. I've been friends with my beautiful friend for 20 years. 20 years. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:25 And she was my bridesmaid and she was there when I got married to I guess some bloke. I don't like anyone as much as you like your friend who's getting married. No. I just – I really – it is so cruel. And you've missed a few weddings as well. I've missed a few. That's the other thing. I've missed a few of my really good friends' weddings. Out of your hands as well.
Starting point is 00:04:42 Yes. Every time, yeah. Exactly. It's the fourth wedding that's been out of your hands that you every time. Exactly. It's the fourth wedding that's been out of your hands. Yes, it is actually. And it just breaks my bloody heart. Also, I bloody love a wedding. I'm bloody, I'm made for weddings, mate.
Starting point is 00:04:54 I love dancing. I love singing. I love eating. I love love. I love love a lot. I love the most. I've got so much positivity. I'm a joy at a wedding.
Starting point is 00:05:03 I get into everything. I love every event, every little thing about it. And I know some of it, you know, is probably like problematic and all the traditions, but I bloody love all that. It's just a party, mate. I cry during the speeches. I laugh during the speeches. I cry during the vows.
Starting point is 00:05:17 I don't say, I don't heckle. Keep them short. Keep the vows short. Keep the speeches short. Move it along. I'll do a shot with you at a wedding if you like. Fuck yeah. I will do a dance move on the dance floor.
Starting point is 00:05:25 I will try and catch the bouquet, even though that is a very problematic tradition and we should put it in the bin. I'll still bloody do it. You're not allowed to catch the bouquet anymore. As a married woman, it falls to the desperate and the dateless to catch the bouquet.
Starting point is 00:05:40 And then everyone laughs and points at everybody. And goes, look at these losers. It's the same with the garter. The single men catching the garter. It's so ridiculous. And then everyone laughs and points at everybody. And goes, look at these losers. It's so stupid. It's the same with the garter. The single man catching the garter. It's very creepy. Anyway, but I'm there for all of it. I bloody love it.
Starting point is 00:05:52 I love seeing your drunk uncle who's a little bit inappropriate and kind of odd. Nah, he sucks. But I still love it. I love that guy. I love the nannas. I love the nannas. I love the terrible DJ if you get a terrible DJ. Or the great band if you get a great band. Oh my God. You know what I love about theas I love the Terrible DJ If you get a terrible DJ Or the great band
Starting point is 00:06:05 If you get a great band Oh my god You know what I love about the nanas They're sitting there And they're like My husband's dead You're like Yeah nana
Starting point is 00:06:13 You're a hundred But it's good to be here Do you know what When I'm a nana I'm gonna be doing shots And dancing on the dance floor No you won't Because you'll be dead
Starting point is 00:06:21 And I'll be happy Oh my god This is dark I'm gonna need some of your bing bongs people Because that one hurt I'm sorry You won't. Because you'll be dead and I'll be happy. Oh, my God. This is dark. I'm going to need some of your bing bongs, people, because that one hurt. I'm sorry. Anyway, so I know that in the scheme of the painful things that have happened to people during this God-forsaking fucking two years of trauma. Like the death.
Starting point is 00:06:39 Yes, exactly. Death, sickness, illness. People who lost their jobs and bankruptcy. Exactly. There's like a thousand things that are worse than the thing that I'm going through. And I do know that. And I'm really sorry. And I see you.
Starting point is 00:06:50 And I'm so sorry for everybody's situations. However, I said this in my newsletter and I stand by it. Just because your pain is not at the same level as someone else's doesn't mean that you can't still feel it and acknowledge it. Agreed. Even if it's literally just that you're homeschooling and trying to work, like homeschooling kids and trying to work. Because there's some people who are homeschooling and trying to work and they missed a wedding and their foot is caught in a bear trap.
Starting point is 00:07:15 There's always somebody who's caught in a bear trap. You know what I mean? But that's okay. It doesn't mean that your lack of being caught in a bear trap is not valid. How big is a bear trap? You can catch a bear. So like a person size? No, no.
Starting point is 00:07:28 It'd be like. Is it like a person size mousetrap with a snap thing? Yeah. It's probably like that. Like that big. Okay. No one can see. It's an audio medium.
Starting point is 00:07:35 Yeah. He's making some kind of weird like beginning of the MCA. It's a big oval. YMCA song. It's a big oval. Oh, it's a big oval. And you just stand in the middle of it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:45 Snap you. Is it just that one like sharp teeth thing? Yeah. So it just chops their head off? It was like that one in A Quiet Place, but that was a smaller one. I think that was for like a coyote or something like that. Yeah. All right. So it's not like a.
Starting point is 00:07:56 And a rabbit trap's like a little, like a little one. Are you joking about this? About which parts? The bear trap. No, they're real. God, you would have to be, it to be so big to catch a bear. Yeah, well, it's not its leg. Is it trying to go through its torso?
Starting point is 00:08:08 Well, the idea is that it captures it and it can't move. And even if it does get out, it's injured and it'll die regardless. Well, that's the most depressing thing I've ever heard. I was cheering up. My bing bongs have all escaped. You're all over the place, mate. You're going to need those. Look, they've just floated away into the air.
Starting point is 00:08:23 We should do the preamble. Have fun editing that noise that I just made. I will because I'm editing this one because Collinx is working on the Loki recap. And I'm too sad. Right, cool. Can I go first? I would love you to go first. All right.
Starting point is 00:08:33 So bearing in mind, if you've skipped ahead, I am miserable and I'm missing my friend's wedding. And so I thought I would recommend a series about four miserable people called Life on the BBC. Let me tell you what it's about. So it's people called Life. It's on the BBC. Let me tell you what it's about. So it's on the BBC. It's a British drama written by Mike Bartlett, and it was first broadcast in September 2020.
Starting point is 00:08:55 It follows the residents of four flats who live in a converted Victorian house, an ensemble cast led by Alison Stedman. The residents of four flats? Yeah. So it's a Victorian house that's been converted into four apartments, basically. So there's like four different apartments with people living in them. But it's in the one building.
Starting point is 00:09:12 But it's in the one building. Yeah, exactly. So they're all kind of, because of that, they see each other all the time. Are they like, my shower's out. Stop using the hot water. No, no, it's not like that. It's more like their lives kind of intertwine. Their lives are intertwining.
Starting point is 00:09:24 I know, with drama. So Alison Steadman, who I love, who is in Pride and Prejudice. Is she Pride or Prejudice? She actually plays Mrs. Bennett, Elizabeth's mother, in Pride and Prejudice, and she's so good in it. She's also in Gavin and Stacey in Orphan Black. Is she Gavin or Stacey? Is she Orphan or Black?
Starting point is 00:09:43 Neither. I'm loving these jokes. It's so annoying. And Peter Davidson, who was Doctor Who in 1924. Now those two are really great together. They're a married couple, have been married for like 50 years. And at their anniversary, she kind of, you know, just beforehand, she stumbles into an old friend who then sees her with her husband and thinks to herself, what is going on? Why does he treat her the way she does? And I'm very surprised that you've turned out the way you were because we went to school together and you were like the life of the party
Starting point is 00:10:13 and a rebel and really out there and confident and great and you seem very meek and timid and shy and not yourself. For real. And she suddenly realises that she spent 50 years being slowly worn down by her husband who just constantly undermines her undermines her ability wants her to be this kind of meek mild housewife and that's what she's become so she has two adult children as well who all see her like that and so it's kind of swiftly it starts there and then she sort of has this sudden realization that
Starting point is 00:10:41 her whole life in a way has been i know know, just not a waste, but just that. Not her own. Not her own, yeah. She's not lived a life that she thought that she would and that was true to herself. She tries to wake or break away, but this is a spoiler, just before she does, she finds out her husband's been diagnosed with cancer. Oh, brutal.
Starting point is 00:11:00 Yeah, and just before he tells her that, she finds out he had an affair like 20 years ago with one of their friends. So it's sort of – and he says it in such a condescending kind of brash way because he's used to her being this meek, mild, unopinionated person. Is this Peter Davidson? Yeah. And so that's a really interesting relationship to kind of watch unravel
Starting point is 00:11:20 and watch her kind of – the realisation of that relationship dawn on her and her adult children all the yeah and kind of suddenly realizing that the person that she was isn't the person she's become and she's been miserable for 40 years right but she's just kind of put up with it and i think that's actually quite a true story for some women oh yeah where they just become wife and mother not that those are bad things at all, but that they lose their identity and their identity just becomes that person in the family. And they don't think about their own wants or needs. They just put their family and their husband first.
Starting point is 00:11:55 So she's basically done his washing, cooked his meals, raised his kids for 40 years while he's had a profession and he's slowly worn her down. Anyway, so that's quite heartbreaking, but she's a great character and it's interesting. Melissa Johns and Adrian Lester also star with Victoria Hamilton, reprising her role as Anna Baker, now known as Belle Stone. And she's from Bartlett's series, Dr. Foster. So Anna Barker is, well, Belle Stone is quite an interesting character. She's kind of an alcoholic. She has a sister who's got severe quite interesting character she's kind of an alcoholic she has a sister who's got severe mental illness and she's just come out of a divorce and so there's some really great scenes in there where she's talking to her ex-husband who's played by adam james and would i know him yeah you would if you saw him he's british yes he is british and yeah he's was from
Starting point is 00:12:41 in dr foster as well he's just they've got great chemistry and the way that she's kind of still in love with him even though he's treated her so terribly and he announces very quickly that he's getting married to a new person and how she navigates that and her drinking all those things yeah and there's also a storyline that adrian lester plays his wife has passed away and so he kind of plays a widow. Anyway, so there's sort of a lot of intertwining stories but it's just been really, really great and I really enjoyed it a lot. Victoria Hamilton actually was also in the Pride and Prejudice 90s series
Starting point is 00:13:19 as Mrs Forster and she played the Queen Mother in The Crown. Oh. Just a side note. Anyway, I just really the Queen Mother in The Crown. Oh. Just a side note. Anyway, I just really enjoyed it. The acting's really brilliant. Is it done? Is it like? Yeah, it's just a complete series.
Starting point is 00:13:32 What's it on? Six episodes. It's on BBC iPlayer. So I actually use my VPN, ExpressVPN, and I could just watch it for free. So it was great. Great. Okay, good, good. Is that our ad for this week?
Starting point is 00:13:44 Yeah. Perfect. We, good, good. Is that our ad for this week? Yeah. Perfect. We'll get to it. I just want to quickly say on – so Pete Davidson – what's his name? Oh, Peter Davidson. Peter Davidson. He played Doctor Who. His daughter was in Doctor Who, the same series as David Tennant,
Starting point is 00:14:00 and she ended up playing a clone of him and played the doctor's daughter in an episode she was a clone of him and or something from his genetic DNA or whatever and then in real life they got married so they're married so David Tennant married Doctor Who's daughter who also played his daughter in Doctor Who my god that is such a mind trick they're not related no so for a minute I thought she married her dad and I was thinking what are you talking about that is such a mind trick. They're not related. No, because for a minute I thought she married her dad and I was thinking, what are you talking about? That is so interesting. I didn't know that.
Starting point is 00:14:28 There you go. And David Tennant is so lovely. I love his podcast. And they've got like four or five kids. I can't remember. They've got a bunch of kids. Yeah, they do. Listening to his podcast, it gives you a real sense
Starting point is 00:14:36 that he's a nice bloke. I love David Tennant. I'm all about him. No, he's bloody lovely. He's my favourite Doctor Who. And yes, that's what I call him, Doctor Who. Whenever you say Doctor Who, people are like, he's actually called the Doctor.
Starting point is 00:14:44 He's not called. Shut up, fucking Doctor Who nerd people are like, he's actually called the Doctor. He's not called. Shut up, fucking Doctor Who nerds. Anyway, I do love David Tennant too. All right, your turn. I think this is the perfect opportunity I might just talk about briefly. I read this a while back on your recommendation, but I think it works into this. I read I Give My Marriage a Year by Holly Wainwright,
Starting point is 00:14:59 which you've talked about before. And essentially, I won't talk about it too much because you've already talked about it, but Lou and Josh have been together for 14 years. They share two kids and mortgage careers and plenty of history. Now, after a particularly fraught Christmas, Lou is ready to ask herself, is this marriage worth hanging on to?
Starting point is 00:15:14 So it basically, again, I'm not talking to you because you've seen this. I'm talking to the listeners who might not have heard this before. But it basically cuts between the two characters as the marriage is falling apart. She's got it in her mind that she's going to give it one year to see what happens, but he doesn't know that initially. So it's like he's jumping through these hoops that he doesn't even know that are kind of being put in place for him. He knows something's wrong. But what I think
Starting point is 00:15:38 it does a really good job of is fleshing out like the flaws of each character. So you kind of feel. is fleshing out like the flaws of each character. So you kind of feel. Hey folks, it's Mark Maron from WTF. I travel all over North America doing standup and it's always good to know Airbnb is an option when I'm away from home. But if you're away from home, why not take your own place and Airbnb it?
Starting point is 00:16:00 Airbnb your whole home to make some extra cash. Or if you have a spare room that's not in use, just Airbnb that. Whether you could use extra money to cover some bills or for something a little more fun, your home might be worth more than you think. Find out how much at Airbnb.ca slash host. Sympathy for both. And they both have made mistakes and continue to make mistakes throughout the book. But it's really great. It was really interesting and really heartbreaking. And it kind of, I guess, what I got out of it, which I think is true of, like, all relationships that are worth keeping,
Starting point is 00:16:33 it's about, like, building a life together and working together and constantly communicating and working on things, like, as a family or as a couple or, you know what I mean? Yeah. So, yeah, again, I don't want to go on about it too much because you've already talked about it at length. But I loved it. I thought it was really, really great and really heartwarming and also tragic and sad. Oh, I'm so glad you loved it and thank you for reading it.
Starting point is 00:16:57 You don't often read my recommendations. It's true. And I really appreciate that you did. Well, because if you recommend it on the show, I'm like, well, I can't talk about it so there's no point in me reading it. It's just wasted content. That's what happens to me with your recommendations a lot. I know.
Starting point is 00:17:11 I think, oh, but I can't talk about it now. But I think we should do that. If one other person watches or reads a thing, I think we should come back to it, though, and talk about it. And talk about it. Totally. And that's so interesting to me. I loved hearing your opinion on that because I did.
Starting point is 00:17:24 I thought that book was such – especially if you're in a couple, both of you reading it, I think would lead to a really interesting discussion about the whole thing. Who did you side with more? Did you have someone you sided with more? It's funny because it goes back and forth because they've both like done things and there's moments where like, I found it really unfair when she his marriage is like coming to an end he doesn't know and she's putting these tasks out for him but he doesn't even know that they're kind of in front of him and I'm like well that's really unfair but then you like you find out more about their relationship and things that he's done you
Starting point is 00:18:00 know and the sacrifices that she's made you know with them and And then you find out one of them had an affair and all these other things kind of going on. So it really kind of goes back and forth. So I don't really think it's about picking a side so much as kind of understanding perspectives. Do you know what I mean? Like I was never like, oh, fuck this person or whatever. They should just burn this all down.
Starting point is 00:18:21 It's written in a way where it feels very balanced. And I could also see like where you could come at it from if one of them, you know, you could see like, well, that person's having an affair, so that would be it. I can also understand, you know, that side of things as well because, you know, that's often an unforgivable kind of act in a relationship, you know. But I think it does a really excellent job.
Starting point is 00:18:41 And I think also that because they've got kids and a mortgage, it kind of changes the dynamic because you're a bit younger and then something happens. You can just be like, I mean, it still sucks, but you can kind of pack it all in and it's a little bit easier to separate. But once you've built a life together, it's so much harder to untangle that, you know? Yeah, completely.
Starting point is 00:19:02 And it's not just like financially, it's like emotionally. Do you know what I mean? It's all these other all these other yeah and i think what's interesting about that too um is that allison stedman's character in this in her sort of i'd say she's in her 70s maybe it's interesting because they they kind of walk that line as well because initially you're totally on her side about it all yeah and even though he's dying of cancer, you still think, well, she sacrificed her entire life. He treats her horribly. Why can't he just let her be herself?
Starting point is 00:19:35 And she deserves to just go and build her own life outside of him and being this kind of servant to him and her family. But as the series goes on, it kind of starts to explore the fact that she had a role to play in that and i think there's something in the book about that too that um i give my marriage a year that both of you have a role to play so she did also allow that to happen to her yeah she didn't actually which sounds like victim blaming and it's not victim blaming though in that i know he but because i think that and this is the complexity of relationships he's not abusive he's not victim blaming though in that I know he, but because I think, and this is the complexity of relationships, he's not abusive, he's not controlling in a way that's really hurtful
Starting point is 00:20:12 and damaging and like physically and emotionally violent. It's more, his digs are more just that he constantly makes fun of her and just like kind of undermines her. But in this way where he didn't even think he was being malicious. He was just kind of subconsciously shaping her into this like doctor's wife that he wanted her to be. It's like water over a rock. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:20:34 And he wasn't conscious of it either, which is why they have these really interesting discussions where she tells him and he can't see it. And then his son doesn't notice it but her daughter his daughter immediately does go yeah well we just thought your parents are weird and you guys are weird but that you love each other even though you speak to her horribly you know and that's kind of and like friends around them were kind of said yeah you do do that to her but he hadn't noticed either yeah and so do they explore why he does that or a little bit it seems that he wants her to be this particular person
Starting point is 00:21:07 because they explore the main reason for it being his pride. He's like a really proud man who can't admit when he's wrong and almost was insecure and didn't want her to have her own life outside of his life and their world and their kids because that would be threatening to him he didn't want to lose her he wanted her just for himself i guess and also maybe he was a doctor he had a busy life and he wanted you know someone that would take care of everything at home for him so he could go and have this long career and this like very well-standing you know long professional career and take her to all the dinners and,
Starting point is 00:21:47 you know, but it's interesting because then they explore that the, the affair that he has is a symptom because she was boring. And it's because she, and it's not that it's her fault. It's that through a lot of things happening, it happens to women so often and men too, but I think more so to women becoming a mother and, and choices narrowing, you can lose yourself for a lot of different reasons.
Starting point is 00:22:13 And so it was, yeah, I just find that really interesting because when you explore the, the juxtaposition of those two books, because the characters in that book are what kind of in their forties. Yeah. Like early forties. Early forties.
Starting point is 00:22:24 So you can see how she could have gone down that path where she just becomes bitter and resentful and gives up in a way and that's kind of where alice and stedman's character had got to she was so miserable she didn't even notice anymore yeah because she puts aside a bunch of her stuff because he wants to be like a musician yeah but in doing so like and he never really goes for that yeah yeah and so she's kind of resentful that like she gave up all this stuff so he could do this thing and he just and he didn't do it well he didn't do it successfully enough I guess yeah which I could totally like understand what's like you give it up and for what you know what I mean you've just sacrificed like years of your life for nothing essentially.
Starting point is 00:23:05 Yeah, yeah, exactly. So no, it's a really interesting and I think it's a really good reminder that relationships are really complicated and that it's not always about the perfect person. It's about you building a life together that works for both of you. Yeah. And that's what they say, particularly for women. Marrying the right partner can make all the difference
Starting point is 00:23:30 to how your life turns out career-wise, which is kind of brutal, but is often true if you don't marry someone who is supportive of you and wants you to have your own life and your own career, then women don't basically. And not always, but often that's what happens. The domestic load just falls completely to women. And some women are really happy with that too. Oh, totally.
Starting point is 00:23:55 Every relationship is different. But that is kind of some of the overwhelming research done by Annabelle Crabb and others that you really do have to – and it's the same for blokes as well. You have to marry the right person, you know, and see yourselves as equal partners in building a life together. Oh, mate, this is complicated. Speaking of, are you ready to talk about your new podcast?
Starting point is 00:24:17 Oh, yes. Oh, yes. Oh, yes. So I'm a bit nervous about it. Next Tuesday, the 15th of June. It's coming up. It's coming up. It's coming up. My first episode is dropping of Taunts.
Starting point is 00:24:29 It's a podcast all about our mental health, our inner critic, our emotions, how we think and feel in our head and how that impacts our life. I want to talk more about the stories we're told as kids and what they've told us about who we can and should be. And I'm just going to interview a really interesting human who's been through a thing or made a thing or done a thing or has some expertise in this kind of area that I think can help us all. Cause we're living in such a weird time, right? I think we're all living at home and the consequence of that is also living in our heads even more. And there's so much about how we talk to ourselves
Starting point is 00:25:06 about us, if that makes sense, that is so important to unpack. Cause I think that's where everything starts from. Yeah, absolutely. Anyway, it's really great. I've, I've listened to two of the three episodes you've recorded and it's really terrific. And there is a trailer for it. Is that right? Is that up yet? Has that been cleared is that it's been cleared yes yeah yeah so it's all up there so spotify apple podcast you can subscribe it would be great i'm gonna do it right now thanks mate so you can go there and subscribe there's a little trailer there with a teaser of a couple of the episodes um and a little message from me and if you subscribe then you'll get the first episode fresh and ready for your ears. And free. And free.
Starting point is 00:25:46 And also you might sneakily notice. There it is. There it is. It's right there. Me with my face. Oh, that's so great. In the cord. I like how you did the Planet Broadcasting logo the same colour as the font.
Starting point is 00:25:55 I know you spent a lot of time on the logo. It's really good. Thanks, mate. Well, look, Emma Hackett did the logo design. Anna Robinson took my photo. Hilary Holmes did my makeup and my hair. You went all out. It was a whole collab.
Starting point is 00:26:08 Yeah, it takes a village, mate. Nobody looks that good. Given that a five stars because I know because I've already listened to it. If people could subscribe, that would be cool. We'll talk more about it next week. Yeah, thank you. It makes a massive difference. And actually, there's a little message from me sneakily in the suggestible feed.
Starting point is 00:26:23 It came out today. Oh, I didn't know that. I didn't know you'd hijacked this podcast. I did. I snuck a little message from me sneakily in the suggestible feed. It came out today. Oh, I didn't know that. I didn't know you'd hijacked this podcast. I did. I snuck a little one in. So if you've got keen little eyeballs, you might have already seen that there's a little sneaky trailer from me in the feed. Terrific. Yes. So I would so love you to
Starting point is 00:26:37 subscribe to that. It comes out every Tuesday. Do you want me to put the trailer at the end of this? Yeah, why not? That'd be cool. You can do that too. Put it everywhere, mate. Get your promos in. Get your promos in. Also, if it's not for you, that's cool too. If it's not for you, shut your mouth.
Starting point is 00:26:53 None of your business then. None of your business. Anywho, my first episode is with a very good friend of mine, Jimmy Larisvi, who has a doozy of a story. She really does. She really does she really does she's had a life i interviewed her for just make the thing and her life completely changed it's been a wild ride it's been a wild ride three or four years ago that you yeah yeah that's when you guys met now we're all friends anyway um so she's on our first episode and um you got some
Starting point is 00:27:24 really interesting guests coming up as well. Yeah, thanks. If you don't mind me saying so. Thank you. No more spoilers. That's right. Should we do some – well, look, I was going to say, you can actually review this show in addition to Tons.
Starting point is 00:27:37 I've got one here. You can just do it in an app. You open it up and you go, where do I review it? And then you find it and then you can do it. This is from George who says, a shreckingly good time. Listen to this show. It's great. That's five stars from George.
Starting point is 00:27:49 A shreckingly good time. That's a call back to the Weekly Planet podcast, my more successful podcast. I wouldn't know. Don't listen. Yes, that's true. You don't. Which you were on recently, though.
Starting point is 00:27:59 You came on to talk about, what did we talk about? A Quiet Place 2. A Quiet Place 2, yeah. But we talked about that last week but um yeah mason has this uh hatred of like people who write pull quotes that clearly are there just to get in the like a play or a movie and like so like there's a shrek musical and it'll be like so and so says a shreckingly good time but it's like it's not a word like it doesn't even make any sense they've just said it so it could get on the side of a bus or whatever.
Starting point is 00:28:27 Yeah. You know? What does that even mean? Does shriekingly good look bad? Shriekingly good? I don't know. I don't know either. Just before I do my little email that you can email the show
Starting point is 00:28:38 and we're the suggestible, I just have a few tiny little things that I wanted to remind people of. Mare of Easttown with Kate Winslet. I finished the finale. I've got to watch that. Oh, mate. It's so good. It gets even better.
Starting point is 00:28:49 It's bloody brilliant. And she is awesome. And also what I love about it is that Kate Winslet asked them to not Photoshop her. Because in all of the posters, they'd like smoothed some wrinkles and taken out belly fat and done a whole lot of things. And she's like, no. Let me look like I actually look. So that is excellent. Good on you, bloody Kate Winslet.
Starting point is 00:29:07 Got the bags under the eyes. Correct. Yeah. She's so good at it. The Bold Type, which I also love, has a new season that's come out, episode one and two. Watch them both. Brilliant.
Starting point is 00:29:19 There's new episodes of Trying as well. There are. Which is a show we talked about recently. Yeah. That's on disney no apple apple and it's just beautiful and it's about um a couple who are trying to adopt some good stuff on that yeah it's a fucking horrible app it is but that show is really yeah but i can never find anything on it i know it's a nightmare but that show is worth uh trying to navigate my way through for all mankind
Starting point is 00:29:43 at the moment on that, which I love and I will talk about that probably next week or week after. All right, excellent. I should watch that except now you've talked about it, so will I? Who knows? I'm not going to watch Mare of Easttown. No.
Starting point is 00:29:57 And the other thing that's got another season, this is just a little smattering of extra seasons of stuff I've already talked about before. The second season of Feel Good with Mae Martin, the comedian, is out on Netflix. Oh, yeah, you loved that. Yeah, I loved that. I've already talked about before. The second season of Feel Good with Mae Martin, the comedian, is out on Netflix. Oh, yeah, you loved that. Yeah, I loved that. I've previously talked about Feel Good. It's so gorgeous.
Starting point is 00:30:11 It's kind of autobiographical of Mae Martin's life, but sort of heightened, I guess, and a slightly different story. It's just so good. And the second season is on there. Now, Lisa Kudrow plays her mother in it. Is she not in the first season? Maybe from Friends. No, she is in both seasons. in the first season? Maybe from Friends. No, she is.
Starting point is 00:30:25 Okay. In both seasons and the second season. It's just as good. Should we talk at length about the Friends reunion again? Oh, God. Why did we talk about that for so long last week? We weren't even supposed to. I didn't even have notes on it because I thought you wouldn't want to talk about it.
Starting point is 00:30:37 And I hadn't even seen it. People have been talking about it heaps and I've thought about it a lot more than I should have. Well. What is that? It's the aging thing. That's what it is. I don't think that's the only thing.
Starting point is 00:30:45 I think it's just a very, still a very popular show. So when a thing happens, people are like, look at this thing that happened or whatever. And it's also kind of about your childhood as well or your like youth, you know. I don't know. Yeah, it's just, it's so, and now I've fallen down a rabbit hole
Starting point is 00:31:00 of watching Courtney Cox play the piano on her Instagram. Oh, my goodness. I think there's a version of her with, like, Elton John. Then she was doing a dance with Ed, what's his face? Sheeran, yeah. Edward Maguire. Edward Maguire. And the dance was not very good.
Starting point is 00:31:16 Well, she was in the Bruce Springsteen film clip. Yeah, she was. I know. Was she doing that dance? No, she did the dance that she does with Ross on the dance floor. You know the episode where they do their dance routine? Well, it's the bloody best. Anyway, she does it with Ed Sheeran.
Starting point is 00:31:28 Not as good. Anyway. No. I still have loved it. Ed Sheeran's the James Corden of music. Always inserting himself into things. I actually like Ed Sheeran. I like Ed Sheeran too.
Starting point is 00:31:37 He's in Game of Thrones. He's in Bridget Jones the third one. He's in other things. He's in other things. He does pop up quite a bit. He loves just doing a cameo. I don't mind him. He seems nice. Yeah. He does pop up quite a bit. He loves just doing a cameo. I don't mind him. He seems nice.
Starting point is 00:31:46 Yeah, I think so too. All right. Okay. So if you would have a suggestible, you can email it in to suggestiblepod at gmail.com. Just like Zachary has. Hello, Claire and James. Are we doing audio ones as well?
Starting point is 00:31:58 Because I've got my headphones in. Oh, I can do an audio one. No, no. I'll take them out. Oh, I'll save that for next week. Save them for next week, yeah. I'm Zach. I'm from a small town in Kansas, no, I'll take them out. Oh, I'll save that for next week. Save it for next week, yeah. I'm Zach. I'm from a small town in Kansas, USA, and I'm a massive fan of the pod.
Starting point is 00:32:09 While I mainly tune in for your wonderful suggestions, some of my favourite parts of the pod are when you dive into issues, whether it's topics about the environment or introspective issues. I love hearing your take and thoughts. Your podcast is helping me get through the daily stress of college, and I'm very grateful. Much love from the great state of Kansas. We're grateful for you, Zachary.
Starting point is 00:32:27 And question for Zachary and those out there, how great is the state of Kansas? Where does it rank? Let us know. We'll do a poll. We'll do a poll on the suggestible Twitter feed. And then we'll suggest to you which one you should go to. You know what state I would like to go to?
Starting point is 00:32:40 State of bloody undress, am I right, fellas? Am I bloody right, fellas? Am I bloody right, boys? Oh! I was going to take it down to the northern territory where I would like to go to see the wedding of my friend. That's up. Also, it's not a state, it's a territory.
Starting point is 00:32:57 But it's a good joke. Your joke is as good, if not better, than my terrific joke. Alright, pipe down there, Chachi. Jesus. Anyway, that's the end of the show. It is. We made it. We did it. Enjoy.
Starting point is 00:33:09 Thanks to Collings for not editing this episode. No, he's not editing it, but thank you to Collings because he's editing the Loki videos, which is much harder. Oh, super hard. So he may not have done this, but he was doing a much more difficult thing. He is editing up a storm over there. Thank you to me. And we appreciate that guy on every level.
Starting point is 00:33:25 Yeah, that'll be out by now, that Loki review, probably, if people are interested. It's a good show. You should watch it. You won't watch it. It's a good show. Cool, excellent. You bloody love it.
Starting point is 00:33:33 It's good. You do. You would. You love that Loki. Also, I love it because they might be sending me, they're like, do you want a Loki care package? I'm like, fuck yes, send me that. What the hell would that be?
Starting point is 00:33:42 Would that be like that weird thing we got on Valentine's Day? That was weird. It was like a giant white chocolate love heart filled with like weird candy. Yeah, it was so weird. With a hammer and then roses all around. Like we're covered in black sticky stuff. Because it was from that show WandaVision. And so they had these beautiful roses in a love heart shape,
Starting point is 00:34:02 but they painted them black. Didn't enjoy it. Actually, I kind of did. It was fun to open it. I had a lot of that chocolate, but that's why I gave that show a good review and no other reason, because of that weird thing they sent us. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:15 Yeah. All right. Some of the perks. Some of the perks of being a mid-tier influencer. You know what? Another of my friends does this kind of stuff and gets sent all these lovely skincare lotions who's that jamila oh yeah gets like face care and makeup and cool jumpers and head scarves and all kind of you gotta get your profile up there that's what you got to do
Starting point is 00:34:36 you got to move in those circles none of these nerd circles you just get a bunch of like funko pops you need to move in you need to move in different circles. I know, but I don't want to do any of that stuff. I'm not good with that stuff. Well, then you can't complain. Remember we went around and she was like, here's a giant box of makeup that I've got. Yes, I was like, what the hell? And it's like tens of thousands of dollars of stuff,
Starting point is 00:34:57 what would seem. Like we're looking up the price of things. It's like, oh my God, this face cream is worth like $400. I know. She just gets sent all this amazing, delicious stuff and she's very generous and that's lovely. Anyway, that's it. All right.
Starting point is 00:35:10 Let's get out of here. Okay. Bye. Bye. I feel like there's a lot of pressure that's internalized pressure that comes from being a woman in this point in history and knowing I have choices and opportunities my mum never had and that my grandmothers certainly never had and that my great-grandmothers couldn't have dreamed
Starting point is 00:35:33 of and so I sort of feel this sense of obligation to take them all at once and then end up crying. I remember standing in the wings and watching the audience filing in and I could see him sitting in the crowd and I thought, oh, no, because he was going to see me be funny and I figured that would be a turn-off. That inner critic was by far the hardest part of the whole process and if anyone had a trick to turning that inner critic off, I would. Because the good writing happens when you put her to the side.
Starting point is 00:36:18 Hello, it's me. I'm Claire Tonti and this is Tons, a podcast about what's going on in our heads, about our inner critic, about what we think about ourselves and why we talk to ourselves the way we do, about our patterns of behaviour, about our creativity and how to get it out there. I think we're just living in such a strange time and so I want to take a little bit of your time once a week to delve into it all, to
Starting point is 00:36:45 look at womanhood, to look at the stories that we've been told as kids and why we ended up the way that we have. And hopefully that might help just a little bit. I'm going to bring you a chat with a really interesting human who's made something or done something or been through something that I think will help us to learn. So subscribe wherever you get your podcasts from and I'll see you every Tuesday right here. All right. Love to you.
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