Suggestible - Men are Stinky

Episode Date: September 10, 2020

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Hi, I'm Jessi Cruikshank from the number one comedy podcast, Phone a Friend, which I strongly advise you listen to. You know what else I suggest you look into? Becoming a host on Airbnb. Did you like that segue? Thank you. I recently started putting my guest house on Airbnb when I'm out of town, and I didn't realize how easy it would be until I did it. If you have a spare room, you could Airbnb it, or your whole place could be an Airbnb. It's a great way to make a little extra money by doing not a lot, which frankly is my mantra in 2024. To learn more, go to airbnb.ca slash host. Your hair's very long. Thank you. Thank you very much. We're a day late. People will know this if you're listening to us on the day that you came out, this came out, whatever's happening. You came out. The day that you came out.

I hope if you did come out that it went well. But because I thought yesterday was Tuesday and it was Wednesday. I went the entire length of the day and there were multiple clues along the way like because people were taking their bins in or whatever and even like my pill box with my my various vitamins that I take to stay youthful that I'm very dubious it could be it could be poison I could be poisoning myself I like I had Thursdays and I'm like huh must have eaten two in a day didn't think that like maybe I just didn't So that is the mental state we're both in currently right now.

It was until Collings messaged me. It was like podcast. And I'm like my first thought was we record tomorrow. It's good that he's ahead of the game. Don't get me wrong. It is, that he knows the day of the week. But I literally did not know the length of the day, what day it was. Hello to new listeners.

This is Suggestible Pod, a podcast where we suggest things to you. My name is Claire. James is over there and we both forgot the date. We did. We suggest things and we're married and at the moment we're living in a very strict lockdown in Melbourne. Every day is Groundhog Day and it's a lot. Every day is Tuesday or Wednesday.

Sometimes it's Wednesday, then Tuesday. Who knows? Who knows? On Sunday we found out they're going to be extending the lockdown. Yeah, that's good. We lived at level three for three weeks and then they were like, actually, no, it's not working. We're going to restart the six-week lockdown.

But much worse. But much worse with a curfew. Yep. So we can't leave our house from 8 p.m. People already know this. Why am I telling you? I don't know. Anyway, 8 p.m. till 5 a.m.

Not that that matters. We have kids soon. They're gone anyway. We'll do loop. Yeah. Yeah, and there's loads of other restrictions. So basically you can only leave your house one hour a day and then only one person from your household can go to the shops

to get stuff. Yep, really good. You can't have anyone in your house one hour a day and then only one person from your household can go to the shops to get stuff. Yep, really good. You can't have anyone in your house. You can't leave. Like did you say the five kilometre thing? Oh, yeah, five kilometre radius. You have to wear masks. Anyway.

I've been pushing that just a little bit. Yeah. Oh, don't say that. Give a shit. Oh, Lord. He's going to catch me. He's a rogue. He's gone.

Maybe. No one's coming out. I keep seeing police helicopters circling. What? They're going to land in a field and be like, actually, you're seven kilometres. Yeah, when I'm pushing it, I mean, I might do six or seven. Like I'll get a red rooster. I checked on the map.

It's like might be longer or whatever. Give a shit. Who cares? Anyway, we suggest things. Let's suggest some things. Correct. Other than going like breaking the law. Oh, my goodness.

What are you doing? What's up? All right. Okay. So I have recently discovered something wonderful, an artist, a particular artist that's really wonderful. Oh, my goodness. I know.

You know when that happens and you fall down a rabbit hole and you think, how have I never listened to more of this particular thing or watched this particular thing? Yeah, absolutely. Yes. Okay. It's a wonderful experience. It is. So Kev. It's a wonderful experience. It is.

So Kev Carmody is an Australian treasure. He co-wrote from Little Things, Big Things Grow with Paul Kelly, arguably one of our most iconic Australian songs about Indigenous land rights. And I knew Kev through that song. Yes. And I've seen him around. I thought you knew him because like the way you spoke to him,

you're like, I knew Kev. I vaguely. I knew him through A Friend of a Friend. I had an idea about him being a folk singer and obviously very talented but I just had never actually listened to his music, shockingly. So Kev is releasing a new album, well, a reimagined album, and so I had to listen. I'm just blown away.

His music is part of the bedrock of Australian culture, I think, and his songs speak of the Indigenous experience of history. They're ballads of injustice and land rights, freedom, incarceration, and the darkness that exists at the heart of a lot of colonisation. Yeah, right. But they're also love songs. They're love for country. Were you listening to that before when I was in?

Yeah. Yeah, they're really nice. Yeah, about romance and joy. And I just fell in love with listening to his music and it feels like coming home. Yeah. You know, that kind of feeling of sitting around a campfire with old friends, like watching the moon with a good cuppa.

And they're just deeply moving stories about grief and death, poverty, oppression and racism. Is this out yet? Yeah, it is out now. So you can find it on Spotify and it's also out on vinyl as well as a double-sided album. So it was previously released in 2007 but they've re-recorded some of the songs with some more contemporary artists.

Did it get much traction then? I don't know. I'm assuming it would have. Yeah. I'm not really on the pulse of anything, but no, I haven't heard of it. No. So the stellar roll call of artists honouring Kev's work include obviously Paul Kelly, Courtney Barnett, one of my faves, Archie Roach,

Bernard Fanning from Powderfinger, which is another great Australian brand, John Butler, Augie March, Electric Fields, Claire Bowditch, Casey Chambers, Kate Miller-Heike. These are some names. Yeah, Troy Cassidaly, just Missy Higgins, just the list goes on. Just incredible songs and the covers are really incredible as well. Some of the songs I prefer Kev's voice singing them, I think.

Yeah, right. You can hear him through. His voice is just so grounding and his life story is really interesting too. So he was born in Cairns to an Irishman, Francis John Carmody, or he was otherwise known as Bull Carmody because he was just kind of this really imposing kind of – had a lot of size and strength. And he married Kev's mum who is an Indigenous woman called Bonnie but it was illegal at that time for them to get married. Right, yeah, yeah.

And so they went and got married in Cairns and kind of hid out really and had two kids. That's so crazy. I know. It was not even that long ago. No, it's really not that long ago. Kev would be in his 70s now. Isn't that like that idea that like you look slightly different

so you can't, like that's fucking insane. Yeah. Like I know now it's kind of like take for granted, you know, that's all in the past or whatever. But it's crazy. It's crazy. And I think that's why this album and just deep diving into Kev's work is such an important thing to do for an education

in our history and a reminder of what indigenous people have been through in this country but also more broadly the Black Lives Matter movement. And Paul talked about in an interview that his songs are just as relevant today as they were when he first wrote them. Isn't that the – because you look at a band, for a lack of a better example, Limp Bizkit. They're not – no, but I'm saying like to write something timeless, it's – I don't know if you can – can you do it intentionally?

Like it seems like incredibly difficult to do. You know what I mean? Well, I think what's interesting about Kev is that he didn't actually start recording songs until he was in his 40s. What is it about what makes them timeless? Is it the style? Is it the themes? Like what, do you know what I mean?

I don't think it's the style or the themes necessarily. I think it's if it hits a chord. Yeah, right. Not a literal chord. No, I mean if it encompasses a feeling that is universally human. Right, okay, yeah. So if you can hear yourself in that song. But if you did it as say like.

Or someone else's story in that song. But if it was like a disco themed album that hit on themes, would that be universal? Do you know what I mean? Yeah, because I think that song. But if it was like a disco-themed album that hit on themes, would that be universal? Do you know what I mean? Yeah, because I think that songs, the theme of a song and the lyrics and music, there's something in that song, whether it's the guitar lick or the hook or a line in the chorus, there's something that hits a chord in energy. And Oprah often says, and I'm getting really Oprah here,

but there's only really one of us here. And I love thinking about human beings in that way because I think really that's why certain things catch on like wildfire because even though we come from completely different experiences, different backgrounds, different countries, different languages, there's something universally human and connected about all of us and the planet for that matter. So what we do to the planet, we do to ourselves.

And I think that idea that there's only one of us here really resonates when you see, I don't know, say John, not John Lennon. John Legend. John Bon Jovi. Paul McCartney. Oh, John McCennon. John Legend. John Bon Jovi. Paul McCartney. Oh, John McCartney. You know, get up and sing Hey Jude to a crowd of, you know, thousands and thousands of people and everyone singing those lyrics,

you know, and it's, you know, that na, na, na, na, na, na, na. Like, you know, ostensibly those lyrics don't necessarily mean anything but they do. They hit something universal in all of us. That's what I mean. Like it doesn't have to be just lyrics or just themes. Like it can be a catchy song. Yeah, so I don't think it's necessarily,

I don't think you can just sit down and say I'll write an iconic song. No, that's what I'm saying though. Like, yeah, that's really fascinating to me that like I'm going to write the definitive rock album. I'm going to write the whatever. Like, yeah, like how? I don't know. I mean, obviously if it was easy, everybody would do it, right? Yeah.

But I also think, you know, when you listen to Kev's music and when you hear him talk about music, it's spiritual. It's not and I think sometimes art, really great art, is transcendent in that way. Like it's not done to be famous or to be the best of the albums. That's often very evident. Because it's telling something deep that needs to be told. Yeah.

You know, something either within that person or something that they can see in the world that needs to be told. Or like a universal truth. Yeah, that needs to be told. Or like a universal truth. Yeah, that needs to be said. And I think listening to Kev's music is an education, but it's also just like a big hug at the same time as well as being heartbreaking and poignant. Is he still like doing stuff, like touring?

I don't know if he's touring. He's definitely still playing music. He lives out in a property in Queensland. Okay. And just kind of I saw him interviewed on the ABC and he's sitting there on his back veranda with kangaroos in the background. It's just this really kind of larger than life kind of lovable larrikin.

He said this line and it really stuck with me. He just was looking at the sky. He just kind of talks in circles about so many things in the space of a single sentence. And he was looking at the sky. He just kind of talks in circles about so many things in the space of a single sentence. And he was looking at the sky and he just said, oh, look at that sun there, that's a spirit thing. It's such a simple sentence and I think that there's so much depth in what he says about that, in our connection with things,

our connection with the land, our connection to each other. But there's also so much anger in his music too, rightly so. Yeah. A couple of my favourite songs that I think you definitely should listen to if you don't listen to the whole album, they're all on Spotify. This Land Is Mine, it's sung by Paul Kelly, Kev Carmody and then Kelton Pell. Just got these incredible lyrics.

It's about the different ways that we think about land and so Paul Kelly sings the line, this land is mine. He's really singing it from the perspective of a farmer, I guess, or Western perspective of I've bought this land, I own this land, this land is mine. And then Kev's voice comes in and he's singing, this land is me. Right, yeah. And it's such simple lyrics, this land owns me. Yeah. Really encapsulates. That's an interesting perspective, yeah. And it's such simple lyrics, this land owns me. Yeah.

Really encapsulates. That's an interesting perspective, yeah. Isn't it? Yeah. It really encapsulates I think the way that ownership is thought about differently in Indigenous culture, you know. So, yeah, it's really interesting and kind of heartbreaking. So this land is mine.

Cannot Bar My Soul is covered by Archie Roach, who's another Indigenous artist in Australia, and it's just that's the album title. Brilliant. What was that one? Cannot. Cannot Buy My Soul. Again, it's about colonisation, I guess, really,

and the history of Indigenous Australians. Moonstruck by Sarah Storer or covered by Sarah Storer is just beautiful. Some of his music is just like poetry rather than historical narrative and it's just gorgeous. Blood Red Rose is covered by Kate Miller-Heike and also Claire Bowditch. I love Claire Bowditch. She's one of my favourite artists. So I really enjoyed that cover. You interviewed her?

I did interview her on Just Make Me Think. And then you saw her at a cafe and you chickened out. She recognised you but you didn't go up and say hi. I was too terrified, I know. Anyway, from Little Things, Big Things Grow was covered by Electric Fields and that has been raved about. They speak in language in that particular song and so it's a really interesting reinterpretation of what is a really iconic Australian song.

And the last one I really enjoyed was On The Wire. That's sung by Troy Cassidaly, who's another country artist in Australia. So anyway, give yourself some time. Go and have a listen. I really, really enjoyed the arrangement. Do you think even if you're not Australian, do you think this is something that people could enjoy? Definitely.

I think that's what we were going back to before, that the themes are really universal, I think. I think, yeah. Not all the songs are even about Indigenous Australia. Some of them are just about the planet, I guess, or enjoying. I've heard of it. Or some of them are love songs or they're love songs for the land. Anyway, I really enjoyed them.

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This is a quick one, if you don't mind. Do you know John Rhys-Davies? Are you familiar with him? No. He played Sala in Indiana Jones. He played Gimli in Lord of the Rings. He played Maximilian Arturo in Sliders, the TV show Sliders. I see.

You know Gimli? He's like, ah, and my axe. You know that guy? Do you know the actor? Yes, I do. He's great. He's like this larger than life. He might be Welsh.

I think he's English. I don't know. He's from that region of the world. Anyway, he's got a YouTube channel and it's not like huge and he doesn't have massive views or massive subscribers, but he'll just come on like every few weeks or months and he'll talk about like acting stories or he'll talk about how he's doing in lockdown and where his family is and where he's at

and what he's been up to. He talks about history. He talks about life. Like he's got all these really interesting books and antiquities that he'll show and he's like this particular sword is from this and he's like and every time you draw it, you have to draw blood or whatever. And he's just this really fascinating human being. He tells these like really compelling stories and he's got that kind of

theatrical kind of nature to him so he just kind of like just kind of washes over you as he like tells you these stories but he's also like also i'm an idiot like he's always because he's like because he talks about how he's done like panels with historians and and and you know who deal in historical artifacts and he tells this particular story where he goes, oh, by the way, like there's a Q&A at the end and I'm sorry because a lot of the audience, they're going to be asking me specific questions about Lord of the Rings or Indiana Jones or whatever. And so I'm really sorry because I don't know what I'm talking about

and, you know, and you guys are the ones who have all this knowledge. And one of the guys said to him something like, oh, don't worry, John, we're used to dealing with fakes or something along those lines. And it's just a really like good kind of pick-me-up kind of fun thing that I think more people should know about, yeah. And everybody knows that guy. I mean, do you know the guy? Yeah, I do.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But he's just one of those guys where he's not like Brad Pitt, do you know what I mean? But he's like he's been solidly working for like decades. He's in the first Indiana Jones, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. So, working for like decades. He's in the first Indiana Jones. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. So, yeah, it's really great.

So that was only a short one. I do have another one, but if you want to jump in ahead. What's that called again? It's just John Rhys Davies YouTube channel. John Rhys Davies YouTube channel. All right, cool. Well, you can either go on with it. You go.

Did you watch the TV show Sliders? No, I still haven't watched it. You haven't watched it? It's from the 90s. I think you missed it. It's still available. It's got Jerry O'Connell. Oh, I see.

Is that your recommendation? Yeah, the TV show Sliders. We didn't have good sci-fi in the 90s. We had that. We had Sequest, DSV. We had Earth 2. All right, I don't care about that. Those were the three shows.

I have a quick recommendation. Yeah, yeah, go. You know David Tennant does a podcast. Yeah, I love it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I keep forgetting. I should go back and listen to more. It's so good.

That's actually what it's called, David Tennant does a podcast, which is what I love that it's called so blatantly exactly when it's said on the tin. Anyway, he does an interview. He's released his second season and he's done an interview with Judi Dench. Oh, really? It's just like two of the most beloved kind of British people.

Are they British? I don't know. Yeah, he's Scottish. He's British Scottish. I don't know. Somewhere in the United Kingdom. And it's just delightful. Yeah.

It's just a lovely conversation between two really likable people. Yeah. Like those two in particular are just so well loved. He's the best man. I got to watch that interview show you talked about where he's being interrogated or whatever, the series. It's about like it's just they're in a room and they just interrogate them and it's different people.

Oh, like it's a drama. I thought you meant David Tennant, the man, who's just interrogated in a room. Tell us all your acting secrets, David Tennant. You know what he's really good at? What if that's a crime show? Yeah. They have different languages. that's a crime show?

There's a new season next week and one of them is Kit Harington from Game of Thrones. Ooh, sexy Kit Harington. You know what David Tennant's really good in? There's this movie called. You know nothing, John. That guy, yeah. They're married in real life. They're married in real life.

We're talking about, of course, the Game of Thrones couple. There's this movie called Fright Night, right, and it's a remake of an 80s horror movie. Well, I think the new one's better except for some dodgy special effects, but it's Colin Farrell as a sexy vampire and he's like a serial killer in the neighbourhood and Anton Yelchin who tragically passed away. You know him from Star Trek and other things, the new one. He was really young.

And Toni Collette's her mother. And he knows that there's a vampire next door, but he can't he doesn't know what to do. So David Tennant's this goth stage magician. So he goes to visit David Tennant and he's like tell me about the dark arts or whatever. And David Tennant's this drunk sour

just ridiculous looking, long haired, eyeliner tatted up, like ridiculous, like Criss Angel stage musician. And it's great. It's just like crossbows and vampires and shit. It's really good. Okay, I have a question.

This has always puzzled me. Why are vampires considered sexy? Because I think it's that like they swoop into your bedroom at night and they're mysterious. Yeah, but that's crazy. They can promise you, yeah, but they can promise you eternal life and they're beautiful and whatever. Are they though? And terrifying.

I don't know. I'm with you. I'm not. I don't get it. Yeah, I know. Is that what it is? I don't. Yeah, I guess.

I know that, you know, Twilight, all of those books that were supposed to be very sexy were based around that. Now, I'm not going to get this right. The author was Mormon, I think. Yeah, something like that. Yeah, and I think that it's sort of based around that kind of idea of lust and forbidden love. Chastity and whatever.

Chastity and those kind of themes, which is why, you know, they love each other but he can never have sex with her or something because otherwise she'll be eaten. No, he can't bite her because then she'll become a vampire. Is it touch? They can't touch each other? No, they can touch but they've got like a mental connection. I can't remember.

I'm butchering Twilight lore but, yeah, it's – There's something though that – But it's like it's this forbidden thing where he finds her intoxicating but he can't help himself but he's – but those vampires are considered like vegetarians. I was going to say something else. You were going to say what? They're vegetarians.

No, they're vegetarians. Because they eat. Actually, it would be vulveterians. It would be. Because as I learnt recently, your vag should actually be called your vulva. Did you know that? Okay, well, pass it on. I think you said it on this very show.

And they only eat, only drink animals' blood. Pulpers. Yeah, they drink animals' blood. And also they're sparkly. But people who are like hardcore vampires, like this is stupid. This isn't a real vampire. They're all stupid. It's all made up.

Let's not. You don't like this one. That's how I understand. But I'm not a fan, but whatever. Anyway, Fright Night. No, some of them could be really good. Like Fright Night, for example. Colin Farrell is a vampire.

Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? Sexy. All right. I can see it. If it's Colin Farrell, I'll go there. Yeah, absolutely you will. All right.

So Fright Night was your recommendation. It wasn't, but you should watch Fright Night. No, my recommendation was David Tennant does a podcast with Judy Dench. Well, I can do one more if you want. Pause the show. I'm just going to say something. Go. I am sick of living with two boys that are so stinky.

You and our son are so stinky. Everywhere I go, it's stinky. It's stinky everywhere. And I know that's probably a very not very politically right thing to say, but I get so mad. All you do is fart around me all the time. No, I don't. I've walked in the house with farting fartises.

It's kids are stinky and men are stinky. Yes, I know. And it's got to the point where I cried the other day because you farted in the room and it was so stinky. So none of this is true. I can't leave and I'm stuck in the stench. You can't leave. I'm'm stuck in the stench. You can't leave. I'm just stuck with the stench.

And then now our son says things like, uh-oh, it's coming. It's coming. Are we leaving this in? Maybe. I guess we can. All right. Maybe because I'm sure there are some other people out there in this goddamn forsaken land.

I'll have you know there are also people who are like way worse than me, like actively out there, like, you know, farting in people's faces and stuff. Okay. That does not, that doesn't make me feel better. I'm just saying. That doesn't help the situation. So what, I should be grateful of the level of stench. Essentially, that's what I'm saying.

And farting is what it is. Yeah. To be fair, your brother is pretty bad too. He's awful. He needs to get checked for something. Anyway, it does depend though. Like if you eat a lot of fruit and veggies. He's transcend time and space.

Like I don't even understand. Yeah, they make me mad. I've got to the point, I used to find them amusing. Now I just, I get mad. Yeah, fair enough. Okay, that read, done. Great. Anyway, this is a Stevie show called Unwell on Netflix.

It was brackets, unwell, right? So it takes. Unwell, a story of James farting in a house. I don't even fart that much. Let's not kid ourselves. Let's not kid ourselves. You do, but they're always silent and deadly. Now I can tell the difference between yours and our son's as well.

Like a brand. Yeah. Well, his is mostly Weet-Bix, I'd imagine. Weet-Bix-based. So it takes a deep dive into the lucrative wellness industry, which touts health and healing, but the products may not live up to promises. So it looks there's different episodes that tackle different things. There's one on essential oils, tantric sex, breast milk,

but for adults as well, fasting. It explores these things but it's not necessarily, it's not an attack on each of these things necessarily. It does explore like the darker sides of each of them but it also looks at the benefits of people who make certain claims. For example, the essential oils thing. One side they look at is the biggest kind of corporations in the US are essentially pyramid schemes. And once you get in, then you need to get 10 people involved and then you start making money.

You know how pyramid schemes, they're a scam, don't ever do them. And it's the people who are involved in that and the people who make money from it, like who's really making money from it, you know, the people at the very top. But then on the other side of that, there's a woman who brings her daughter into a naturopath and she has autism. And what they're doing, they're looking for certain scents which can calm her down and help her sleep at night because she's quite active and quite fidgety. So they find the ones like these roll-on ones that they're quite tactile that she can use and then this is helping her sleep at night. So like she'll apply them herself, you know, on her wrists or whatever

and that will kind of – and that scent will give her like the trigger to now's the time to sleep, you know what I mean? And so it's helping her kind of adjust and like live a healthier life. So it's that kind of – that's the way it's kind of looked at. So it's not all doom and gloom and like this is all poison or this is all terrible for you. There are other sides of it. So there are other examples like tantric sex and there's,

you see all these horrible stories about people being pressured by gurus and cults and all these kinds of things and doing things they don't want to do. But then there's other people, healers who do it, and they use it as like with partners together as like to deal with trauma and to kind of open up to each other and all those kinds of things. You know what I mean? And you don't have a guru being like,

you have to have sex with everybody in this room or whatever, which there's terrible things have happened. But again, it's one of those things, if you use it properly, you know what I mean, then there are benefits to all the things they talk about, including like breast milk, like adults drinking breast milk and the benefits. And the science is like the way that they talk about it. Again, I don't know anything about the ship,

but that you can have it, but the benefits of breast milk are for an adult or nothing. Like the proteins are things that are in it. You can get in literally anything. You know what I mean? Like there's no, but then some people claim like one guy in particular that he's, he used it to help his cancer go away and all these kinds of things. And that's dangerous.

It's dangerous. Exactly. And that's the thing. And look, it seems to have worked for him and the data that he presents works for him. So I'm like, whatever, man, like, But then there's people online who are selling it. So they'll package it and sell it off to people and then sometimes it'll be contaminated or spoiled or all these kinds of things. There's real health risks with that side of it. But then there's other people who have a local source. There's a woman in the community

who will sell it or whatever. So it's just fascinating. This is not my area at all, but it was just really interesting to see the different sides of things. And that it wasn't just like all of this is bullshit, you know, which is my go-to on anything really. But, yeah, I found it really, really interesting. Yeah. Yeah, I think that is really, I particularly,

as we were talking just before, respond to scent. Yeah. I really get that and understand that. I've got some roll-on scents that I use for when I need to feel calm or at different points. And I think that it's a really powerful tool, particularly I find for me I've got a really heightened sense of smell. Oh, yeah.

So I can – like when we had that gas leak and you walk in, you're like, I can't smell anything. Now I'm like I never doubt you because there was a gas leak. Yeah. Like legitimately. So now I feel like do you smell this? And I'm like, I don't, but you're probably right. Yeah, it's weird.

And I can go around the house and you can't smell anything and I'm like there is something moldy somewhere. I'll notice if you point it out. I can be like, I think I can, but like I wouldn't pick up on it by myself. Yeah, whereas to me it's so overwhelming. Even the fridge, the fridge can be shut, but I'll notice something off in there because I can be like, there is something in this house.

It's crazy, yeah. And it was like when you were pregnant, it was like even more like heightened. It was awful. That's when I got really mad at your farts, like really mad because it's just so overwhelming. But also the converse sort of that, like at the moment, it's just becoming spring. Oh, it's really nice, yeah.

It's one of my favorite times of the year because the air is just full of this like beautiful kind of fresh, I know it's flowers and people are like, yeah, of course, that's really nice. But it's not even that. It's like it's the flowers but it's the I know it's flowers and people are like, yeah, of course flowers smell nice. But it's not even that. It's like it's the flowers but it's the pollen but it's the grass kind of growing and the rain smell, you know that smell that rain gets just before it hits. Absolutely, yeah.

It's just every time I walk outside I do like a. It's really nice. It's so lovely. So anyway, I don't know how we got into that. But that sounds really interesting. So where can you find that? That's on Netflix. It's called lovely. So anyway, I don't know how we got into that, but that sounds really interesting. So where can you find that? That's on Netflix. It's called Unwell.

Fantastic. Unwell. All right. Well, that brings us, I think, to the end of the show. Oh, thank God. Good, good. And you know what the thing is, Claire? You can actually review the show.

It's in-app and if I can open this up, I can actually do it. No way. Are you for real? It's so true. This one, this one is five stars really helps. So true. This one, this one is five stars really helps. This is from JFJFNFHCNCNMCMC.

Five stars. This is James' best podcast and also his wife is there. So there you go. That's absolutely what a stellar recommendation. We appreciate it. So that does really help the show. It helps on charts probably. Does this chart? I've no idea. I've never checked. Presumably it does. It's probably one of the best podcasts in the world. Oh, goodness. Okay. So I have an email.

If you want to email the show with your suggestion. Oh my God, I love emails. We would love to hear that. This one is from Sarah Duran. Hello, Sarah Duran. I've never written into any kind of show before, but I thought of a recommendation for suggestible and something in me said, why not? Why not? Why not, Sarah and James. I've never written into any kind of show before, but I thought of a recommendation for Suggestible and something in me said, why not? Why not? Why not, Sarah? What a good attitude.

Absolutely. I'm Spanish, but I've lived in Scotland for some time now with my Scottish partner, Josh. So either way, we're listening from across the world. Whoa. I know. Amazing. So my recommendation is mostly for Claire.

Sorry, James. I know I'm in charge of emails, so it sucks to be you. It's a book, Tetraology, called The Cemetery of Forgotten Books. They're some of my favourite books of all time. They're originally written in Spanish but have been translated into English as The Shadow of the Wind, The Angel's Game, The Prisoner of Heaven and The Labyrinth of Spirits. They have adventure, mystery and a lot of love for literature and books,

so if you don't know them yet, I think they'll be right up your alley, Claire. Thanks for helping us stay a bit sane with your suggestions and your positivity throughout these mad times. I hope you enjoy the recommendation, Sarah. Claire will because obviously I'm not allowed to read that because it wasn't directed for me. So what do you do? That's fascinating.

I'm so interested in that. I'm going to see if I can get a copy on my Kindle. Yeah, you should. Excellent. Thank you. All right. That's been us here in lockdown. Yeah, this has been us.

Only a day late. I know. That means we've got to record even earlier. That means we've got, oh, my God. Look out for yourselves, guys. It's a full-on time. I agree. Correct. Anything else? No, that's it. Let out for yourselves, guys. It's a full-on time. I agree. Correct.

Anything else? No, that's it. Let's go home. Okay. Bye. That was abrupt. Well, that's, you know, let's not waste people's time, you know. Right.

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