Suggestible - Mr Sunday McMillions

Episode Date: February 5, 2020

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Because let me guess, you're going to say it's not as popular as your other popular podcast, The Weekly Planet, and you would be correct. Yeah, I just want everybody to know that that is the case. Correct. This is a half an hour show where me and you who are married hang out together and pretend not to be tired. But surprise, we're always tired.

And guess what? What? I don't even pretend not to be tired. No, you never do. I thought you were going to say you're a donkey but I'm not. Why would you think that's the thing I'm going to say? Because when people say guess what, you say you're a donkey and I'm not. You say you're mad but I'm not. Why would you think that's the thing I'm going to say? Because when people say, guess what? You say you're a donkey and I'm not.

No, you say you're mad and I'm not. That's the expression. No. Don't get me started on expressions that you think are things like the whole kick her out of bed for fasting. Which we established was a real expression. Listen, who's going first today? Do you want to go first?

I don't know. Are you the pot calling the kettle black? Oh, my God, Claire. Are there a lot of fish in this barrel? Are you the sharpest tool in the shed? Tell you what, I'm the bloody Dallas now, mate. After being married to you, I'll tell you that much. I'll kick things off.

Fine. Hello, gentlemen's first, as always. I've just started this documentary series. It's on HBO. It's called McMillions, except the S on the end is actually a dollar sign. Oh, I have a docuseries too. Oh, my God. What a coincidence.

Oh, my God. Anyway, so what's happening here is in McMillions, I don't know how many parts it's going to be, but the first episode is an hour long. And do you remember the McDonald's Monopoly system? No. It's basically it's Monopoly, but you collect the pieces from, that you'd get on food. What's McDonald's? I've never heard of it. I don't know what you're talking about.

Oh my God. They sell things called Cheese Max. What is this? What's happening? Is this a bit you're doing? How about some Italian fries? Anyway, for those who don't know, and everybody knows this. What about some Italian fries? Anyway, for those who don't know, and everybody knows this. What about some fish nuggets and a fillet of chicken? They do sell fillets of chicken. No, it's a fillet of fish.

Yeah, but they sell fillets of chicken also. And a chicken burger. This, however, is not sponsored by McDonald's. McDonald's can fuck off forever. Being pregnant, I had that horrible day where I had McDonald's twice in one day. I'm having a horrible day right now. Try to explain this thing that I watched. You don't have to say anything.

You can leave the room and I'll just talk to the listeners. So basically. All right. See you. I'm going. I'm going. See you. Oh, my God.

So anyway, it's called McDonald's. Surprise, I didn't actually leave. We know, Claire. I was just sitting there banging on a desk. We know. Would you like to continue on with your recommendation? It's either that or I shoot myself. How many people who are listening to this just think that I'm annoying?

Probably at least half. Most of them. Yeah, there's one review that was like, Claire is way too loud. I am. I've turned myself down today. I'm sorry. That was me. That wasn't about the podcast.

That was just my life. So anyway, McDonald's run this competition where you get, you win pieces of Monopoly board and if you get like a set, you can win like little stuff like you'll win a free meal or you can win like a car or a million dollars or all these kinds of things, right? Yes. But during I think the late 80s to the early 2000s,

the entire thing was rigged. Like one guy just ran this scam where he would give them out to people for profit. There was not a legitimate winner that entire time it would seem. Ben Affleck was going to do a movie about it. I don't know whether that's happening anymore. Hang on. So that was McDonald's ripping people off.

No, no, it wasn't. Well, without getting into spoiling it, but they outsourced the competition to a marketing company and they made like the money they made on it was astronomical. Like it increased the sales across the board. It would work every time and they did it with Scrabble and a bunch of other stuff. The Monopoly one was always huge but it didn't.

There was no winners. There were no actual winners. So it's about the FBI investigating how this happened, who's behind it, the fraud behind it. And it's just fascinating because you think, oh, who cares if somebody rips off whatever. But it's millions, it's tens of millions of dollars and it's people then going into tens of millions of dollars. Yeah.

And it's people then going into this, like who cares if McDonald's loses money, but it's people going in there looking, you know, looking to win prizes and whatever and they're just, you just can't. It just didn't happen that way. But surely McDonald's would have noticed that they were not giving out any prizes. Well, they were giving out prizes because people were still claiming them, but they were claiming them like illegally because they would get handed the tokens

and then they'd claim them and then McDonald's would hand them a car or money or a jet ski or whatever. What? No, now I'm confused. What do you mean? What do you mean what do I mean? I don't understand. You said that no one was getting prizes but that actually people

were getting prizes. Sorry, no actual. You are terrible at explaining this whole game. You're terrible at listening. I'm listening so hard my ears are bleeding. So people would claim the prizes, but the people who claimed the prizes were getting the tokens from a guy who was selling them.

So they would claim and then they'd give him X amount of dollars. Oh, so it was the guy that was ripping the system off, not McDonald's. Yes, exactly. I mean, they are still responsible ultimately because. Yeah, because they didn't follow up with the shonky shonk that they employed. But the guy had set it up so like the winners were, you know, people who, you know, he mostly knew it seemed for the first part. Oh, it sounds a little bit like the sports rort saga that's happening

in Australia at the moment where our sports minister somehow managed to get her own sporting club government grants for clubs that needed money. It's just a coincidence. I don't even worry about that. Oh, Lord. Didn't she quit recently? Lordy, lady. It's the left hand helping the right hand with two birds in the bush.

I think you might be right. Do you like my sayings? I'm really good at them. Yeah, you're really good at them. I really nailed them. Anyway, it's called. You shouldn't throw glass houses at stones. Don't start a podcast that you don't like being in.

I think that's a good one. I like this podcast. No, I'm talking about me. I just thought it. This is just a bunch of colleagues who's going to have to edit this out because this is just a bunch of people laughing. Yeah, but think of the people who also have to listen to it. It's not just colleagues.

Anyway, it's called McMillions. There's a few episodes left as far as I'm aware. I really like being married to you. Yeah, I bet one of us does. Because you're so annoying. Yeah. No, because I like annoying you. Okay, what's your thing?

What's your docu-series? Oh, no, that's really interesting. I was just briefly that your recommendation reminded me of The Founder, that film about McDonald's and how it started. Yeah. Which is so fascinating. It's a great movie. Isn't it a great movie?

It's so, who's the main guy that started that? Michael Keaton. Yeah, it's brilliant. And it's, I had no idea. Basically a guy who swindled McDonald's. Yeah, the McDonald's brothers who came up with the whole system and kind of created this incredible idea that he then turned into this massive conglomerate. I love it because they basically, people have seen this I'm sure,

but they fast-tracked. They made fast food essentially because you just wait forever for your burgers or whatever, but he created this system which is essentially, it hasn't changed that much. No, it's a dance. It's almost like a dance. He choreographed it. So like you just go, you go buns, well, you put the, I could, I could do it.

Like I've said this before, we've talked about this with Mason, but if you, if you put the stuff, cause I worked at McDonald's for like three years. Yeah. And we literally recently went back to the McDonald's you worked at for a kid's party. But, uh, I, um, I could do it. I could do it from muscle memory. If you put it in front of me, I could make it. Well, they're very strict with the guidelines and how you do it.

And that's why wherever you go in the world. It's garbage but it's clean and it's very efficient. Yeah, and there is something so familiar about and kind of comforting about going anywhere in the world and you see those golden arches. That's why it's built. And they go into the movie because there's – I mean they do have – there are variables across different countries. Across.

Across different countries. Across. Across different countries. But so I know like in parts of Europe you can get beer and stuff like that. Yeah, or there's salad bars. But like a Big Mac is essentially a Big Mac. Yeah, wherever you are in the world. It's so interesting. Whenever I'm sick, because I'm not a big McDonald's person

on a regular basis. Clearly this is not sponsored, this podcast. But when I'm sick or when I'm really nauseated, that is the thing that I'm drawn to. Like that time we got food poisoning in the bottom of Italy. Naples. Remember? In Naples we had the bad muscles and we got food poisoning

and then after we came out of it the first thing we wanted was McDonald's. Yeah. Because you just felt like something familiar, reliable. Yeah, exactly. So I don't know. That was why in those first three months of pregnancy, get ready listeners for me to mention it every podcast now forever. Get over it.

I'm just growing a human, no biggie. Claire, I hate to break it to you. How crazy. I have a person's head pushing against my rib cage. It's happened billions of times. Nobody cares. Yeah, but you've never done it. I know because I don't want to.

The population has never done it. Probably more. Probably more. want to. 50% of the population has never done it. Probably more. Probably more. Anyway, what's your thing? All right, cool. Well, mine is also a docuseries. It's called Chia and it's on Netflix. I watch a bit of that.

Yeah, it's only just come out. It's American. It started in January 2020. It's a six-part series following the nationally ranked 40-member Navarro College Bulldogs cheer team from Corsicana, Texas, who is under the direction of coach Monica Aldama as they prepare to compete in the National Cheerleading Championship held annually in Daytona, Florida. It's interspersed with history of cheerleading, including the formation of the National Cheerleaders Association, the NCA, and it explores the history and motivations of five individual

cheer team members. So it kind of jumps around a little bit in history from just the whole world of cheerleading. I had no idea. You know, you sort of think of cheerleaders with pom-poms at rallies and things like that and at football games. Have you ever seen the movie Bring It On? It goes into the – they say things like it's not a chiropracy or whatever.

Yeah, I know. I know. Isn't that spirit fingers or something? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, of course. But this is what I found so incredible about it is the athleticism. Oh, yeah. It is unbelievable.

It's like being – yeah, you're an elite athlete. Yeah, absolutely. And Monica, who's the head coach is kind of terrifying and she's kind of that amazing mix of terrifying, calm, perfectionist, kind of the person like they talk about her, they kind of want her to be in their head all the time. Well, she is in their head all the time. And it's that idea of having really super high expectations and what it takes to actually succeed and win repeatedly in these massive championships and the lengths the kids will go to to get there.

And then kind of what's really sad too and kind of interesting is how after college cheerleading doesn't go anywhere. So there's no, it's not an Olympic sport or anything. I think there's also a cap on being able to do those things also. Like there is any athletic feat. There's only so long you can do that for. I know, but like gymnastics. There's not a lot of them like over 25.

Like that's pretty old. Yeah, you're right. That's true actually because the toll that it would take on your body is huge. And with like football and basketball and things like this, with a lot of athletes, like the really upper tier ones, they won't run them for the whole game, you know. They'll run them for minutes at a time. So you can last, you can be like a Tom Brady who can play

until he's in his 40s, yeah. Yeah, well, anyway, so I'd totally recommend watching cheer just because, yeah, for lots of reasons, one of which is just watching someone at the very top of their game like coach this team. And I won't tell you what happens. I'll tell you what happens. So basically. No.

But it's really worth a watch. I just can't believe what they can do. I mean I can barely cartwheel and they throw these girls so high. The level of athleticism and skill, they're kind of a combination of gymnastics, dance, and then kind of circus tricks, really. Yes. But on this like incredibly difficult set and quite dangerous.

They often get head injuries and all kinds of things. Because you see them practicing those maneuvers and it seems like they just get hurt every time until they get it right. And even when they get it right, it's still, there's such huge falls. Yeah, totally. And it only, you know, all it would take was, you know, your head hits someone's shoulder. In one way, I know. And you often hear bones cracking and head hits someone's shoulder. In one way. I know.

And you often hear bones cracking and you just go, oh, it's terrifying. It's definitely a young man and woman's game. It is. So I feel like our cheerleading days are over. Who knows? You never know. I guess I'll hang up my skirt. I just had an image of you with pom-poms and knee socks being like,

ready? Okay. Do that. I know people think I like, ready? Okay. Do that. I know people think I'm negative, but I'd do that. I'd bloody cheer on the team. You are the most negative non-cheerleading person I've ever met. I'd cheer at shit. I'm like, yeah.

When? I have never seen you cheer. I've seen you at a football match facing the opposite direction, not even watching the game, mate. Yeah, well, you know what? You left a football match because you couldn't be bothered sitting through the whole thing. And that's not true because I went away for a week.

What you're talking about is I went away for a weekend. With your mates to watch the football. Specifically to watch a football match, but I didn't go to the game. I stayed at home and I watched the boys on Amazon because it did just come out and I'm like, I really want to see this. And I did. And you know what? It was fucking worth it.

I'm glad I did it. You have fear of missing out. I'm like, I really want to see this. And I did. And you know what? It was fucking worth it. I'm glad I did it. You have fear of missing out. I'm the opposite. Yeah, I know. I will miss anything. I will miss absolutely anything and have zero regrets. You chose to be – like literally your job is to be on your own at home watching things.

Yep. You flew in a plane with all of your good mates that you've been friends with since high school. Yep. And they all went to drink beer and watch the footy and you stayed at home to watch the boys. Yep. Instead of hanging with the boys.

Yep. God, you're not even one of the boys, are you? No regrets, Claire. No regrets? Nah. No rugrats in this house. Okay. Hey, folks.

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All right. I'm a professional podcaster. No, you're a professional misery gut. Yeah. Look, you took your time to get there, but that was really worth it. Well done. Avenue 5, this is actually another HBO show by coincidence. This is by the creators of Veep. And essentially it's a cruise liner ship, but it's a spaceship in the future and the idea is that it gets knocked off course. So the people on board, the 5,000 or so passengers and crew, are going to take, as opposed to weeks to get back to Earth,

they miss their orbit because they were going to slingshot off one of the moons of Jupiter or something. But that means they have to go around our solar system and it's going to take three years to get home. And the captain of the ship is Hugh Laurie, who people would know from House, but also various British comedies, and he's going to take three years to get home. And the captain of the ship is Hugh Laurie, who people would know from House but also various British comedies, and he's terrific. It's got an excellent cast all around, actually. Zach Woods from The Office, Josh Gad,

who people might know as the voice of Olaf, but he's in a bunch of other stuff. Leona Crichlow, who I haven't seen before but she's really good. The cast is great and it's essentially the person who's in charge is dead, who died in the accident, which means they're off course. And it's damage control the entire time. Like a crew of people who don't really know what they're doing, disgruntled passengers who have to wait three years to get home now.

And I know a lot of different, like one couple are getting divorced but now they're stuck on the ship together. There's a whole lot of different scenarios going on. And it's just really fun as of so far. And Hugh Laurie is great. And it's good that seeing him do comedy because House is, you know, there's funny moments in it and whatever but I'm not in love with that show. But just seeing him do comedy again, he's great.

He's so good. And I just think it's a really terrific show. But just seeing him do comedy again, he's great. He's so good. Yeah. And I just think it's a really terrific show. He is really good. I watched the first episode and then I fell asleep. But that wasn't because of the quality of the show. That was indicative of just me at the end of the day. Of you watching something after five o'clock.

Yeah, I just can't do it. Exactly right. I have to watch my television early in the day. Unless you go to bed and sit on your phone for many hours. Yeah, and watching Parenthood. Who knows why I did that for a while. Anyway, yeah, no, I agree. I really enjoyed it.

I thought it was fun. It was excellent. It was cool. I've got to watch Veep. I've watched like the first two. Yeah, I know. I know. I know.

Louise Dreyfus? Yeah, Louise Dreyfus. What's her name? Wife of Richard Dreyfus. Don't be calling her wife of Richard Dreyfus. What's her name? Wife of Richard Dreyfus. Don't be calling her wife of Richard Dreyfus. We're not even married. You're the buddy. You're the freaking worst.

This is the problem in society. We're living in a society. Her name's not Louise Dreyfus for one. And also, if it was, she's not married to Richard Dreyfus. Tell me what her name is. Elaine from Seinfeld. No, what is her actual name? George Costanza.

My brain no longer takes in words. I don't know. You're just going to have to think about it. What do you think her name is? Louise. No, you just think about it. It's Dreyfus. It's Richard Dreyfus' wife.

Who do you think it is? I hate you. Please tell me my brain doesn't work anymore. All you have to do is just go into your mind. Just bloody tell me my brain doesn't work anymore. All you have to do is just go into your mind. Just bloody tell me. Julie Louise Dreyfuss. So I was basically right. There was just like one extra name missing.

Bloody hell, you made me think that my pregnancy brain had completely shrunk and I couldn't remember a bloody thing. Ah, no. Dreyfuss isn't even spelt the same way. Her name is spelt D-R-E-Y-F-U-S and Richard Dreyfus is spelt D-R-E-Y-F-U-S. Why does anyone care? Can I talk about my thing now? You made me, you extended this segment more than anybody else.

No, I was right. My laptop's making noise. It's anarchy in this room. All right. Okay. I have two things that I wanted to talk about. Can't wait. Cool.

All right. The first one is the Last Days of August podcast. This is by John Ronson who wrote the book called So You've Been Publicly Shamed. I've read that. Anyway, he's a Welsh journalist. Very interesting bloke. His first podcast was called The Butterfly Effect.

Good movie. He looked at the impact of Pornhub on the porn industry. It's all about porn. This is interesting because, yeah, no, I know of this because they've basically ruined the careers and lives of all these porn stars. Yeah, of a whole industry. And that podcast, The Butterfly Effect, was a very warm and compassionate example of investigation.

So he really made you kind of understand the world of the porn industry and looked at all the different characters and what it takes to really get in there and make it and all those things. And, look, I have a whole lot of other opinions about porn op crew that we weren't going to in this podcast. And, I mean, for one being it's highly addictive and it's particularly risky for young people. Yes.

And that can have a flow and effect into their sex lives and the way that they see sex, all that stuff. I'm going to put that aside for a minute because I just want to talk about his latest podcast, The Last Days of August, which is where he explores the tragic death of August Ames, who's also her real name is Mercedes Grabowski, and she committed suicide. So in quite strange circumstances.

And so the podcast uncovers some uncomfortable truths about the porn industry that she worked in. And they also look closely at her husband, Kevin Moore. One of the reasons why they initially, like everyone initially, there was a big storm around her was that August was said on Twitter to have made some derogatory comments about not wanting to perform in a video with a guy who was gay. And so she made some tweets about that, that it was her choice not to go in to do that kind of film with him. And she told that when she was cast in this particular film, then he was cast and she told the producers that she didn't want

to do that particular act with him and so therefore she lost her job and so she took to Twitter. And so her husband, Kevin Moore, creates this big kind of brouhaha about the fact that she committed suicide because of the online pylon that happened. Yeah, right. Well, let's suppose that online pon happened after her comments on Twitter. What's really interesting is the turns and twists that the podcast takes

after that. She was 23 when she died. Yeah, she was 23, yeah. And so what starts as what you think is an extension of his book, so you've been publicly shamed, and the impact of that on her life becomes something kind of much darker and much more sinister. Sounds really interesting.

It's really interesting. And his voice is kind of lovely to listen to. He's Welsh. And initially I got recommended this from a podcast I listened to called Chat 10 Looks 3. And Annabelle Crabb on that said that she found his voice quite irritating initially and then kind of got used to it and that was exactly the same thing that happened to me.

I just kind of got lulled into listening to his dulcet tones. Very good. But it's also just a really interesting look at an industry that I don't really know anything about. I know a lot about it. Let me break it down for you, Claire. So essentially there's four core styles of pornography. Here he goes.

My last one. Anyway, yeah, and it does take some very interesting twists and turns. He's also really honest about not creating it into a kind of sensationalised murder start mystery. Well, there's a lot of that, isn't there? There's a lot of like, how did she get murdered? Yeah, and there's usually like someone, a suspect that you think, oh, the podcast kind of points to this suspect and then it turns

out not to be the case. And then at the end they go, we don't know who murdered her. Yeah, exactly. So he makes a real point of articulating that really quite clearly and articulating his thinking because he worked on this for over a year. So, yeah, really worth watching, not watching, listening to The Last Days of August. It's probably one of those things that will be turned into a something

at something at some point. Yeah, I'd say so. Correct. Probably a Netflix docu-series. A Netflix docu-series. That's the way you call them. So that's quite a dark thing I've recommended. However, I also wanted to play you this video of Tom Bailard's stand-up,

who's a comedian from Melbourne, who I have been asking you to watch this for so bloody long. Well, you put it on my Facebook and I don't look at my Facebook very often. I know. So I'm just going to get you to watch it. Can you watch it? Will you watch it? And then Collings will put the clip in?

Yeah. Is that right? Yeah, correct. One thing about it, I have to premise this by saying that James has been ranting about boomers and his rage is just continuing to grow so much so that it's rubbed off on me and me. Sunshine, lollipops and roses had an altercation with a boomer in the park yesterday where I told him to be nicer because he told me

my dog should be on a lead. Yeah. And I yelled, you should be nicer. And he said, you should follow the law. Claire, I'll tell you this much. I would never confront someone who likes. Which to me is a big confrontation. Yeah, I know.

I'm saying I think. I don't like being negative. No, I think, look, as with most confrontations that I'm in, technically the other person is usually right and I'm in the wrong. But it's one of those scenarios where it's like just calm down. Like these are just rules that people said. Like it's not a big deal. It's not affecting you in any way.

Also, I'll beat you up. I'll beat you up. No, not really. No, no beating anyone up. And we have to premise this by saying that not all boomers. Hashtag not all boomers. Well, Mason has a – Mason, and I think he's right, says it's not an age. It's an attitude more than anything else.

That's what it is. That is what it is. So I'm premising that. So I'm not saying that I agree with everything Tom Bailard is saying in this comedy special. However, I wanted to play it to you because I feel like. All right, let's do it. Are you ready?

Okay. Thank you very much. Hey, just out of interest, any baby boomers in tonight? No? Good. Let's talk about them. When are they going to die? When the fuck are they going to die?

They are hanging around like a John Farnham farewell tour. When the fuck are they going to die they are hanging around like a John Farnham farewell tour when the fuck are they gonna wrap it up Shuffle off this mortal coil and give me a house My parents told me that what about a caravan recently Oh, you fucking love a caravan don't you boobers boobers look at all the houses and they go gosh Just not enough houses here. Is there a way my car could be a house? Just driving around hey millennials check it out Pretty cool. I'm living in my car like you but different When are they gonna die not even comedy anymore real anger real anger

gonna die not even comedy anymore real anger real anger love the feedback of my generation from boomers too keep that coming guys that's great oh yeah you millennials you're all sensitive snowflakes aren't you yeah everyone in your generation gets a participation trophy don't they yes we do boomers we do and we fucking love them we love those trophies we hold them at night as we curl up in our childhood bedrooms, which are also our bedrooms. And we hold them and we love those trophies. When we got those trophies, when we got something free just for showing up, we got to feel what it's like to be a baby boomer. Do you see what I'm saying? Your participation trophy is called the ability to retire.

Just a little less attitude, boomers. Just a little less attitude coming from the people who need to be shown five times how to use Apple TV. OK, is that all right? Yeah, you millennials are idiots. Now, do I press the source button? Is Stan on Netflix, Tom? Is Stan on Netflix? Does the TV need to be on?

Of course it does! Come on, mate, you went to uni for free. You figure it out. Come on, mate, you went to uni for free. You figure it out. That was pretty great. Do you think so? Because you are a hard comedy man because you're always like, I watch so much comedy. It's more accurate.

It's kind of also like depressing at the same time. I know. And to be fair, it's not at all boomers. No, of course, as we said. But look, as you know, my favourite thing in the world is winding up Boomers and I'm so good at it. Yeah, but that's because I don't know if you know this as it is. You probably don't.

But James has a particular nostril flare that he gets when someone older than him tells him what to do. No, again, it's not an age thing. Anyway, we should wrap this up. I know, but you really hate being told what to do. No, I hate being told what to do by people who don't know what the fuck they're talking about. Or people have no place being like sticking their nose in something that's got nothing to do with them. Sure thing. Good stuff, Claire. Thank you for bringing that to

this podcast. You're welcome. Maybe Colin's going to edit it down, but I thought it was quite fun. Yeah, whatever he wants, man. So look, you've brought that to the podcast, but did you know listeners of this show can also bring things to this podcast? No, really? Like Samuel J. Adams, who left a five-star review just in-app. He can do it in-app if you can believe it. Hey, what a ledge. Samuel said, watch your marriage crumble while James and Claire have a baby

to try and save it. Listen to them yell at each other while you take stock at how happy you are with your significant other. Just kidding. They're absolutely delightful when they tease each other. Remind me of my girlfriend teasing me. While not the more popular podcast, that is true, The Weekly Planet, you can see why Mesa allows James

to be married and happy. Lol. Give up the good work, y'all. And I just want to also give a thank you. Samuel is really nice. Shout out to Jacob and Grace, who I ran into this week, who are listeners of this show. Oh, cool.

So we thought that nobody listened, Claire, but it turns out at least two people listened. From the place that we live, listen. Yeah, that's really cool. Oh, Jacob and Grace. Thanks, guys. Hello for our two listeners plus our mums. Yeah, that's right.

Who do listen because they always give us feedback. Yeah, that's right. And guess what? We don't want it. We don't need it. We're professionals. We are total professionals as can be shown by this particular episode. All right.

I have a recommendation because if you have recommendations, we would love to hear them. Cheer was a recommendation from somebody recently and I really enjoyed it. So thank you for that. And this is from Thomas Murphy. Murphy. Murphy. Not Murphy. Murphy. Murphy. Not Murphy.

Murphy. I lost the ability to speak. Hello. I was listening to your recent pregnancy-themed podcast while chugging through a Sunday long run and absolutely loved it. Absolutely bang on with the things you were saying and I'm definitely up for some chicken stitch election next time round. To chuck in my own recommendation,

my wife found a lovely book called There's a House Inside My Mummy to read to her eldest during her second pregnancy. We found it a really nice way to help our eldest understand what was happening and get her ready for her coming big sister. Big sister? Yeah, for becoming a big sister. Oh, okay, right.

Sorry. I can no longer read either. Baby comes out like a monster. Destroy siblings. I know I talked recently about how it would be nice if a baby came out like a baby horse and it could just feed itself. But that would be terrifying if a human man climbed out of my vagina, like fully formed.

Sounds like a really bloody front of you, Claire. Do you know that if a baby was life-size, their head would take up a third of their body? Yeah, that makes sense to me. That is crazy. Imagine an adult-size baby. They look ridiculous. That's why it's so funny when they start to walk.

I have to imagine it. I'm living with one. Oh, my God, Claire. You zinged me. But that it's so funny when they start to walk. I have to imagine it. I'm living with one. Oh, my God, Claire. You zinged me. But that's why when you see them start to walk, you're like, this isn't right at all. Whatever's going on here, it's all wrong. Yeah, it is because they're very top-heavy.

They topple all the time. I'm still like that with my giant head. Anyway, we've got to wrap this up. Anyway, thanks, Tom, for that recommendation. Much appreciated. And you can suggest things at SuggestiblePod on Instagram or the Twitters or the Facebooks. And very soon I'm going to organize an email address. Much appreciated. And you can suggest things at SuggestiblePod on Instagram or the Twitters or the Facebooks. And very soon I'm going to organise an email address.

I promise. Oh, my God, Claire. Maybe we can send us things through their email. I love emails. That would be awesome. And thanks to our colleagues for editing this ramble. Me too. I mean, you're here, I guess.

Me too. Thanks to him too. Thanks, guys. See you next week. Goodbye. This podcast is part of the Planet Broadcasting Network. Visit planetbroadcasting.com for more podcasts from our great mates. I mean, if you want.

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