Suggestible - Parenting Advice with Nick Mason

Episode Date: March 27, 2020

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Starting point is 00:00:47 I'm Claire. James is sitting over there. This is Suggestible Pod. We've been having some issues. Well, not issues, but, you know, everyone's working from home. Everyone, like a lot of people, have kids. We've been, well, they're working from home. Sure.
Starting point is 00:01:00 And it's bloody hard, mate. It is. It means you have to do all your work in a three-hour period before you go to bed. Yeah, correct, or something to that effect. And so I just had the little old genius brother dear over here because I'm an ideas kind of gal. I'm an ideas gal. Yes, you are. I'm so full of ideas.
Starting point is 00:01:17 You're too much. You're just full of shit. It's true. No, I'm not. Yeah, it is true. Oh, I thought you were going to fight me on that. I'm so confused. Too tired to fight anything.
Starting point is 00:01:26 He's too tired to fight. He's wearing his Harry Potter glasses from Movement Watchers. So, yeah, you had the idea of. Oh, yeah. This is some stuff that we found that has been useful. To keep our kid occupied. Correct. During this time period.
Starting point is 00:01:39 Yeah. So, we thought we'd try and just talk about things because we're both teachers. I've got a lot of teacher mates. So, I thought it would be useful to just try and talk through some strategies for fams. Oh, my goodness. We're going through some recommendations. I have so many strategies.
Starting point is 00:01:52 Do you really? I've got some strategies that I wrote down about 30 seconds before starting this. Okay. My first one is just take the foot off the pedal for a bit. Like don't feel like you have to actually be responsible for their entire education on day two of living in isolation. That being said, there has to be some responsibility, Claire, because who's going to be teaching the kids if they're not going to school to be doing the teaching?
Starting point is 00:02:15 No, I'm serious. I think some people are taking on too gung-ho about the whole thing and then it makes it more stressful. Sure. So I just reckon, first of all, cut yourself some good old-fashioned slackety-slack. Have a whiskey. Slackety-clack. Yeah, you all really wanted to do a lot of drinking whiskey.
Starting point is 00:02:31 I just really want to just drink a lot. So that's really where I'm at at the moment. She's in a great mood. And I haven't been drinking at all. So, you know, man. No, I know. Didn't my bunt celebration yesterday really just, like, help you out? Can't drink a bunt, Claire.
Starting point is 00:02:44 I'll tell you that much. I tried. You did try. It was such a good bunt. If you haven't helped you out. Can't drink a bunt, Claire. I'll tell you that much. I tried. You did try. It was such a good bunt. If you haven't seen it, go to my Instagram video. I did a really embarrassing dance. It was so embarrassing. It's not embarrassing.
Starting point is 00:02:53 It was very exciting. Well, it was really fun. And also, it was you got to baking. That's a good thing. Yeah, baking. Yeah, so exactly. That leads me into my first recommendation, which is baking. Try and give it a burl, Cheryl.
Starting point is 00:03:06 It doesn't have to be perfect. No. But there's something really great about just taking the time to bloody bake. I can put my bunt recipe up, but there's loads of stuff you can do. I'm making pumpkin scones tomorrow. Well, you smoked it there, but you botched it. Yeah, I did. I burnt my blue pot.
Starting point is 00:03:20 It's all black on the bottom. Love my Le Creuset blue pot. Anyway, but I've also, on that note, Googled home remedies for cleaning it, and so I've got it currently soaking in bicarb. Terrific. It's also exciting. And you used my protein powder shaking cup to mix the bicarb, didn't you? No.
Starting point is 00:03:39 Oh, somebody's been using it. I don't know what's going on in this house. Has the dog been getting her face in it? Well, maybe I did actually. Yeah, I know you did. you did it's got bike out in it you're lying to me on a podcast of all sacred spaces i'm so sorry before we get i think really before we get into more about the other stuff i think one of the really important things is for kids and i think about adults as well is setting a structure for the day so that when they wake up they're like okay now we've got these activities for the day and we're going to be slowly working
Starting point is 00:04:08 through them. So they're not like, what next? What am I doing? I'm bored. I mean, they'll do that anyway, but at least you're like, well, we've got this coming up and this coming up and this coming up, which is what we've, you get up earlier than I do what you've been doing in the morning to set the kind of tone for the day. I have.
Starting point is 00:04:22 Yeah. And you started a cool thing today as well. Yeah. It's something I wanted to talk about briefly. I did pretend kinder. Yes. Which you could do pretend school. I found it on an Instagram account I follow, Lauren Dubois.
Starting point is 00:04:33 She's really great. But I just thought it was really fun and our little guy just bloody loved it. So you just basically you get them ready for school. They wear their uniform. They pack their bag. They do all their lunch boxes. They do their drink bottles. You do all of it like you're going to ready for school. They wear their uniform. They pack their bag. They do all their lunch boxes. They do their drink bottles. You do all of it like you're going to go to school.
Starting point is 00:04:48 Then you send them out the front door. Yep. Then you slam the door and leave the kids out the front of the house for a bit. Like 20 minutes maybe as long as you want. Exactly. While you drink a coffee slash have a whiskey. Yep, yep. Have a whiskey, take some deep breaths.
Starting point is 00:05:04 And then you open the door as their teacher. That's right. And I was called Becky all day today. Yeah. And then you just kind of pretend like it's school. But you don't do, like, don't put too much pressure on them to, like, produce, like, incredible pieces of artwork or, you know, like write a whole essay.
Starting point is 00:05:22 But it was really fun, especially for littler kids. Yeah. He really got into it. Also, if you've got a kid who's, I'd say like mid to late primary school or high school, obviously they're going to have a lot of their own work to do anyway. They don't really need you to pretend. Imagine if he says to your 12-year-old, Ted Dwayne, we're going to pretend that it's school.
Starting point is 00:05:40 Oh my God. Except instead of hanging out with all your mates that you really like, you just have to hang out with your mum. Hang out with your mum. And dad. Well, people do that. People homeschool, my God. Except instead of hanging out with all your mates that you really like, you just have to hang out with your mum. Hang out with your mum. And dad. Well, people do that. People homeschool, you know. This is true and actually quite successfully.
Starting point is 00:05:50 I know homeschoolers. But I think even homeschoolers are finding this hard because they can't do any of their normal activities like go to the zoo and all that kind of stuff. Exactly. So pretend school was quite fun. Also, we ended up doing it because our son is four, four or five times. We did pretend school. He left. I think we need to four, four or five times. We did pretend school. He left.
Starting point is 00:06:05 I think we need to take the foot off the pedal or whatever for pretend school. Otherwise, if we're doing four or five times a day, seven days a week, we get real over it. No, no. It was only because it was a novelty for today. So some of the activities I did in pretend school, one was a calendar. You can talk a lot about the weather and like the date and the seasons, all that stuff.
Starting point is 00:06:24 Anybody who's been to the supermarket and like the date and the seasons, all that stuff every morning. To the supermarket and you're stuck at the cashiers for too long, notice this, that you can talk about the weather for as long as you want. You can. Another thing that I thought was really great is then you have like a whole section that's just like PE and we did dance for PE in the morning, which makes you feel good but also them feel good and you get a bit active. You put like
Starting point is 00:06:45 i'm not talking kid music either guys i'm talking like some classic songs you're talking cool guy music i'm talking cool guy music i had the beatles on oh my god really good what are you bloody you bloody my mother gotcha gotcha i'm such a cool mom what's a song that you like to dance with the song i like to dance with is everybody shut up So I Can Lie Down For A Second. Speaking of, Nick Mason's here for my podcast I'm going to record after this. I am going to go get him and let him in. So you hold the fort while I'm gone. I'm just going to sit here and keep telling you recommendations. He's gone. He's actually legitimately left the pod studio. It's gone. It's all crazy, guys, up here. Okay, so dancing, that's been really awesome. So in the morning we do a bit of that.
Starting point is 00:07:28 That can stretch out for quite a while. You can also drink a coffee sneakily while that happens and do some dance moves. Another thing I've been doing which sounds kind of ridiculous but has been genius is filling up a bucket of water and if you happen to have a paintbrush lying around, even one of those old paintbrushes that you use to paint the house or something, or just kids' art brushes are better. I got ours from the $2 shop. And then the kids just paint the walls outside or the floor, as in the garden or the veranda or the concrete. And you can practice letters and numbers and curves and lines, or you can just sit there
Starting point is 00:08:02 and watch them while they paint stuff with water that dries and it's really amazing so you're talking about water drying no that's what you've left people with while i'm going i'm talking about a bucket of water with a paintbrush in it oh my god and it was really fun we did that today another thing is you collect recycling stuff so don't chuck out all your recycling. You keep your recycling. That's true. We built a robot today. Yeah. Yeah. And the key with construction for kids,
Starting point is 00:08:32 don't bother about any of your glue sticks or your blue tack or anything. You just get masking tape. Just get a bunch of tape. And it's that paper masking tape that you can just rip. So you don't even need scissors and kids can do it. And then you can construct all kinds of stuff. It's really cheap so it's like sticky paper basically.
Starting point is 00:08:48 Sticky paper? Genius. It's that beige one that I'm talking about. Oh, my God. So I would get yourself some online purchases of that stuff because that is what we use to make all kinds of things in our house with our son. And he can use it himself, even little kids can, and it's genius.
Starting point is 00:09:03 Also, it can be taken off stuff and re-put on without losing its stick. And if you want to draw pictures and for little kids, they're always moving the piece of paper around and having a panic, you just tape the piece of paper down. That's right. With the masking tape and then pull it off. And also you can tape your kid down if they're moving around too much. And you can also like masking tape patterns on concrete
Starting point is 00:09:24 and get the kids to colour it in with chalk and then you pull off all the tape and it creates a picture. Here's a good idea, Claire. Very cool. Books. You know how we all love books, especially you. You're a big old book nerd. I'm a nerdy book.
Starting point is 00:09:35 I'm a nerdy book. You are a nerdy book in many ways. I'm married to a nerdy book. What? Yeah, you heard me. So obviously reading is a big deal and whatever, but sometimes kids don't want to read or they've got particular books they want to read again and again. For example, someone, I don't know who, but fuck you, whoever you are,
Starting point is 00:09:51 you gave me, our son, a block of like origin stories for Marvel characters and they're terrible books. They're so bad and he loves them and it's just like, and then the Hulk, he was caught in an experiment. They're so boring. And they don't go anywhere in the end and they're just crap. Anyway, he loves them. But I thought a good idea when I haven't done this yet is maybe have a book
Starting point is 00:10:13 of the day so when he comes downstairs in the morning it's like, and you review it, like this is the book of the day. And so you can pick like a book. It could be a book they haven't read in a while or a new book or whatever, you know what I mean? So I think, so get them excited about reading like a different thing so you don't have to read the same Hulk origin story every goddamn day. Yeah, I've had the idea of just getting a box out and putting
Starting point is 00:10:31 in the special stuff because kids like things to be special. They do, exactly. And if they're around all the time in the house, they're no longer special. They're not special. So you pack away a whole lot of the shit and you put it in a box. It doesn't even have to be fancy stuff. That's right, you put it in a river. Yes. You let it go. And you just leave. And if it even have to be fancy stuff. That's right. You put it in a river. Yes.
Starting point is 00:10:45 And you let it go. And you just leave. And if it's meant to be, it comes back to you. Correct. Exactly. No, but you pull out the special box and you pull out one thing from that box each day that's different they haven't seen for a while. That is pretty cool.
Starting point is 00:10:57 That's so cool. That is so cool. All right. We have a little break now. We've got to do an ad. Oh, God. I'm just going to stretch out. Wait, are we actually having a break or are we doing an ad?
Starting point is 00:11:04 No, we're doing an ad. Oh, I still have to pay attention. Okay. So it's a really exciting ad. We've got to do an ad. Oh, God, I'm just going to stretch out. Wait, are we actually having a break or are we doing an ad? No, we're doing an ad. Oh, I still have to pay attention. Okay. So it's a really exciting ad. It's our first sponsor. Oh, my God. Do you know what that means? We're finally sold out.
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Starting point is 00:14:34 Yeah, straight back into it. Links below. We've been doing some walks in the afternoon, haven't we? We certainly have. Obviously in some areas where we can kind of get a bit more space. Sometimes we'll drive somewhere. Yeah, social distancing in the bush. We're not doing playgrounds at the moment.
Starting point is 00:14:46 No, no playgrounds. But, like, you can get out in the bush and do some things out there. Even at the park, we've been doing a lot of getting our little guy to run, just run a lot. We're getting him to chase. We throw the ball and the hits that race between him and our much faster dog. Yeah. He's getting better, though.
Starting point is 00:15:03 He is. He's getting better. So treat your child like a dog. Throw a ball, make him run for much faster dog. Yeah. He's getting better though. He is. He's getting better. So treat your child like a dog. Throw a ball, make him run for it. Excellent. And then you have to carry them home because they're like, oh, my God, I'm so tired. I ran 100, 100, 100 miles.
Starting point is 00:15:13 Oh, goodness gracious me. So a few people have asked me on Instagram about some recipes and things cooking-wise. So I thought what I'd do is make a little list of them and I'll put it on my Instagram at Claire Tontes. So you're not going through them here? No, I won't, no. Are you doing a bit of cross promo?
Starting point is 00:15:28 Smart Claire. Yeah, a bit of cross promo. I'm going to put them on at Claire Tonti so I don't have to list them all here and make James snore away with his boredom, boredom, boredom. That's right. Over there. But, yeah, there's some really great recipes that you can do with kids and just for yourself, even if you don't have kids.
Starting point is 00:15:43 Baking is really good for the soul, I feel. But not so good for the bloody waistline. Am I right, Mason? You tell them. I don't even have a bloody waistline at the moment, so I'm eating myself through bunts all over the shop. You guys, on the other hand, you better look after your figures. Isn't that right, Mason?
Starting point is 00:16:01 Oh, come on, Claire. Be nice. Hey, do you want to join in? Yeah, come on in, Mason. We're talking about recommendations of things to do with your kids. Oh, good. All right. You're a big kid.
Starting point is 00:16:11 You can join in. Oh, my God. Come and join us. Do we get two microphones? Can I speak into both of these microphones? Special guest, Nick Mason. Okay, number one, gun range. Number two, porno store.
Starting point is 00:16:25 They're shut now. Oh. Yeah. Even your most frequented porno store? I guess so, yeah. Are gun ranges shut too? Even with the secret knock. Yeah, even with the secret knock.
Starting point is 00:16:36 I really like your T-shirt as well. Thank you. I'm a big kid at heart. That's right. It's a Transformers T-shirt, so let me just say, more than meets the eye. Very good. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:16:47 It's like fingernails on a short cord in my head. Thank you. It's awful. He's singing so bad, Maceo. It's so bad. So what are you doing with the kids? Okay, so we talked about this is where it's come to, painting things with water from a bucket.
Starting point is 00:17:00 I'm against this, by the way. Wait, is there paint in the – is it water colouring? No, there's no paint. No, it's just water. It's just water and a brush. It'm against this, by the way. Wait, is there paint in the, is it water colouring? No, there's no paint. No, it's just water. It's just water and a brush. It's not a real activity. And what do you paint? Kids love it.
Starting point is 00:17:11 No, they don't. It's bad. They just paint like concrete in like the walls of their house. Sometimes the car, you can paint the car. Like a power wash. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah, that is another genius activity that we have yet to do.
Starting point is 00:17:23 Get your kids to wash your car. It's not that I care at all. Kids love doing that. Has anyone seen Punky Brewster in here? I know you have, Claire. Have you, Mason? I'm aware of the concept of Punky Brewster. There's a moment where they put scrubbing brushes on their shoes
Starting point is 00:17:33 and they do like skating around the house. That's not Punky Brewster. Yes, it is. That's Pippi Longstocking in Minka Poop. Yeah, you're right. It is. It is. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:17:42 That's an example. You don't even know what Spirited Away is. No, I don't. And I don't know what Punky Brewster is either, but I sure as hell know my own Pippi Longstocking. You know Punky Brewster, right? I love Pippi Longstocking. Sort of.
Starting point is 00:17:54 She was an orphan kid in something, something, and there was a cartoon and maybe she's magic in the cartoon. Yeah, sure, that makes sense. Yeah, I remember that. That sounds like Pippi Longstocking. Well. There was an episode. There were no new ideas.
Starting point is 00:18:03 There certainly not. There was an episode where it was someone got caught in the fridge. Remember there was a big thing in the 80s or the 90s? Don't get trapped in a fridge. But I feel like if you were in a fridge, it's just as easy to get out of a fridge. No, because the old fridges, and we used to have one. There's like a latch that you've got to put. Because you have to take the door.
Starting point is 00:18:23 This is great content, but you have to take the door off your fridge if you put it on your lawn because some kid could just like get into what it rolls over. Okay, so that's a non-recommendation. Don't get your kids to get in your fridge. Don't get them in the fridge. Don't. If you're looking for a fridge, maybe purchase one from a discount fridge retailer. Don't take one off the side of the road with a deadly latch on it.
Starting point is 00:18:42 It already has a dead kid in it. Genius. This is a good show, isn't it? This is a great show. Does it always go like this? Yeah, it's not inaccurate. Have I jumped on your toes by talking about the porno story earlier? No, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:18:56 Actually, I brought it up much earlier, but Colin's probably getting it now. We're so thankful you're here. No problem. All we wanted to do was sit and stare at each other in silence. Here's a question for you, though, because Clara and I have different opinions on this. Here he goes. He's waving his hands at me.
Starting point is 00:19:10 You should get a divorce, but it's too late right now because all the divorce laws will be closed currently. Damn it. Where do you think, what age do you think a kid should play video games and what do you start with? Where did you start? I think I had an NES. Well, I don an NES. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:25 Well, I don't know. Does your kid play stuff on the iPad or something like that? No, we don't do any of that. We do zero games because of my policy of zero fun and zero games. I'm okay with it. Honestly, it's fine with me because I think as soon as I got video games, I'm like, well, this is all I ever want to do now. So I'm okay with delaying that.
Starting point is 00:19:43 Yeah, if he can find out that he can actually be a superhero on a screen and manipulate it, that's it. Because, you know, I've got like four boxes of old video games there and half of them have the Hulk on them or whatever. He's like, what's this? I'm like, it's a video game. That would be too, because we've played some of those. They're way too complicated.
Starting point is 00:19:59 They're way too complicated. Isn't there like a Lego? There is. There's like a Lego Marvel. But I think you'd start with like maybe Mario Kart Switch and you can just put it on simple and you just tilt them i feel like you should you should show him video games before he goes to school and other kids show him video games i think that because otherwise yeah that's it for you too yeah yeah you gotta get in first and be like we're letting you have this because if you don't, having raised zero children of my own,
Starting point is 00:20:27 I'm pretty sure that if you say that if you like, there's no such thing as video games and then all the other kids have video games, he'll be like, why didn't I learn about this? I totally disagree. No, no, because it's that fine line between how much do you show your kid and how much do you not because you either show them too much and they're overexposed to everything or you don't show them enough and then like the weird kid who doesn't know who Gumby is,
Starting point is 00:20:52 for example, popular children's character Gumby, that every kid needs to know. That's a very specific example. Okay, so both of you blokes over there, I'm going to say something that is probably unpopular. Here we go. But I think that video games are really terrible for kids particularly at that young an age i think they're really highly addictive i think they've
Starting point is 00:21:12 got plenty of time to get into them and i frankly don't care if my kid is the weird one if he is using his imagination and learning and growing and spending time in nature outdoors but there is also like the in video games, there is, I think you can't just blanket be like they're not good for you. There is problem solving. I agree with you that there are times. No, I know, but at this precious time in the development, I know I sound like the biggest killjoy of all time.
Starting point is 00:21:37 You're funny. But like there is a reason why I think you guys are both really creative. Well, I don't know about you, Maceley, but like James spent a lot of time in the bush with no video games. Yeah, but I also. Just like hating it, but also having to create mind palaces in his brain. But I started video games at like five maybe.
Starting point is 00:21:53 When did you start? Not quite that young. Pretty close to it. But they've also ruined a lot of my life. I've spent so much time playing video games. That's what I've said to parents. You've spent so much time. They get so addicted.
Starting point is 00:22:03 What do you think of video games? I would say I think they're like a good outlet and like they're a good stress relief, but they're also a time sink. You don't actually really get anything out of them a lot of the time. And I guess the thing about a cartoon or something is it's on for 20 minutes and then it's done and you can go, that's the end. Whereas with a video game, if your kid's no good at it and your kid's probably no good at it, they just don't end.
Starting point is 00:22:27 Especially how they used to be. They didn't end. They would just loop forever. And I would guess a Lego video game is quite similar. Like if your character dies, it would just come back and come back and come back and come back so he would never finish. You're doing the whole Lego Star Wars saga. So basically what you're saying is you totally agree with me and I'm right.
Starting point is 00:22:42 So excellent. No video games until he's 15. I'm not in a rush for video games, so I'm not stressed. But I think there is something to do, something about showing him something before school. Oh, no. I have my phone on. That's your kid.
Starting point is 00:22:57 So I'm ready. He's like, I've found some stuff. I've found some stuff in this room, all these Hulk games. I've found some popular Twitch streamers and they're all saying the N-word. Now I'm saying the N-word. That's right. Oh, no. That's what happened.
Starting point is 00:23:08 All right, okay, let's get back on track. Also, the other thing is if they're not playing video games, also Twitch streaming, like that's a huge thing. A lot of kids just do that, just watch people play video games, right? Okay, right. Yeah. I guess that's like watching the television. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:23:22 And I guess if you never show him that's what a video game is, he may never make the connection that that is something you can do yourself. Yeah. Good. Ever. Good. Never, ever. But I think video games, the assumption would be that playing video games,
Starting point is 00:23:38 it doesn't help you be creative. But there are a whole bunch of games that encourage creativity. Exactly. entertainment. I think when people say, oh, it's just video games, it's whatever, I think they're thinking of like a kind of a Pac-Man situation, a Space Invaders situation where it's just the same thing over and over and over again. But there is compelling narratives and problem solving
Starting point is 00:23:58 and things like that. So I think you can't just be like, they are bad for you, blanket rule. I think it's more. And there's so many good guns in games. Or we could play Ape Escape. Ape Escape's great. You're an ape and you escape. You escape.
Starting point is 00:24:09 You bash an orderly into the side of a wall. Explode when you throw them into the wall. That's right. Look, I am very aware that I have my own biases around this stuff because I really get worried a lot about screen time. What about Untitled Goose Game? Oh, you might like that. He's a troublemaker.
Starting point is 00:24:21 He is a troublemaker. It's just mainly for me I worry a lot about too much screen time. I understand that. However, during this isolation period, we, of course, are also using screen time because how else are we all going to get through? You know, it would encourage his creativity. What? Spraying some water on a rock or something, you know?
Starting point is 00:24:37 Yeah. I just think that it's really good to have space in your life to be bored. Totally. Because that's when exciting ideas come to you. And it also helps you develop as a human person with all your brain and stuff. A lot of people who are writers and creative people, they've put down video games. They've given them up because they are a time sink.
Starting point is 00:24:55 Yeah. Not that I'm some sort of massive creator. I make dumb videos. Not dumb. I've had to give up video. Yeah, dumb. I mean, you make dumb podcasts as well don't just yeah you know just say only make dumb videos i've had to put a lot of that down which is
Starting point is 00:25:12 good i think exactly hi i'm jesse crookshank from the number one comedy podcast phone a friend which i strongly advise you listen to you know what else I suggest you look into? Becoming a host on Airbnb. Did you like that segue? Thank you. I recently started putting my guest house on Airbnb when I'm out of town, and I didn't realize how easy it would be until I did it. If you have a spare room, you could Airbnb it,
Starting point is 00:25:35 or your whole place could be an Airbnb. It's a great way to make a little extra money by doing not a lot, which frankly is my mantra in 2024. To learn more, go to airbnb.ca slash host. All right. Okay. Last minute recommendations for what to do with your kids at home.
Starting point is 00:25:52 Get ready, Mason. I know you brought one. So here we go. Here we go, Mason. Do you have any more? Are you done? I wrote a list. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:58 Off he goes. I think, yeah, because we're doing like some, we are doing just a small amount of TV in the afternoon as well. Yeah. I reckon stretch out until you can get a small amount of TV in the afternoon as well. Correct. Yeah, I reckon stretch out until you can get to the end of the day as much as possible. This is all stuff people already obviously know. That was my last recommendation.
Starting point is 00:26:14 That was it, just two words. See, you know what? The listeners will like that because they've probably got their kid in front of the TV anyway. That's right. And they can just be like, well, if somebody on the internet said it's fine, it's probably fine. Yeah, but I think it's really important to limit it though. That's right. And they can just be like, well, if somebody on the internet said it's fine, it's probably fine. Yeah, but I think it's really important to limit it though.
Starting point is 00:26:27 Yeah. Yeah. Oh, another thing I meant to mention, speaking of screen time, we have been FaceTiming, he's been FaceTiming some friends. Yes. Because they can't see him in real life. So he's going crazy. Because he's got no mates.
Starting point is 00:26:40 He's got no mates. Yeah, exactly. So he also has been screen timing his grandma and also his auntie and he will take the phone and I would never normally give him my phone but he'll take the phone and sit it somewhere and then they'll talk to him while he plays. And then I've been able to get some work done because they're kind of entertaining him and I can kind of hear them.
Starting point is 00:27:00 And it's okay because they're also just stuck at home as well. So that's actually kind of like a weird virtual babysitter kind of preoccupying time. But also keep an eye on it. Yeah, keep an eye on it. Yeah, exactly. You don't want to just give them a phone without any supervision. But that's actually been kind of fun. Don't give them chat roulette.
Starting point is 00:27:15 No. No, don't do that. It's all dicks on chat roulette. That's what I heard. Exactly. Who's got some other things before we wrap this up? Yeah. So a couple of other recommendations.
Starting point is 00:27:25 I have been starting to help him with his fine motor skills. So fine motor is like all the little things that you do to learn how to write, like little things with your hands. Close-up magic. And if you've got kids that are sort of, I reckon, I don't know, younger than seven, even eight, they all need help with their fine motor skills to be able to get that dexterity happening, to do writing and even play an instrument, all those sorts of things.
Starting point is 00:27:48 And there's lots of cool, fun things you can do, one of which is chalk, but skinny chalk, and then practising drawing lines and circles and curves, all of that kind of stuff is really good for them. Doing tongs is really good in cooking. Even just filling a bucket of water, putting some stuff in it, and then they have to pick it out with tongs. What was with the water? What was with the water, Mason? stuff in it and then they have to pick it out with tongs. What was with the water?
Starting point is 00:28:05 What was with the water, Mason? I don't know what this is. Because it's free and it's at home. Just stop making – Water's not free. I think that's a very privileged position you've taken. All right. Well, anyway, and pegs are also really good if you can find some activities
Starting point is 00:28:18 with pegs. That's really fun, pegging stuff. I get it. You guys are the worst. This is supposed to be a child kid friendly episode no it's for adults clear it's not for children okay so um that's a few other recommendations obviously just reading lots and lots of books reading's great yeah exactly um some longer letter hunts as well so you just go around and choose a letter and then they have to find a whole lot of things
Starting point is 00:28:41 that start with that particular letter yeah they hate they hate that, but you can do it. Yeah. But I think the biggest thing is just hang out with them. Yes. And look after yourself. And if you need a breather and a break, it's okay. There's always video games. There's always video games.
Starting point is 00:28:56 There's so many video games. You guys are the worst. Oh, my God. Hundreds of dozens. Do Maternals out. Yeah, do Maternals out. It's not on the Switch yet, though. I don't even know what that is.
Starting point is 00:29:03 Oh, God. What am I? I just stepped into a terrible podcast. You invited Nick Mason. I didn't want him in. It's true. Just to clarify. I would never have him in.
Starting point is 00:29:11 And I've understood that rule for a long time. So, you know. Correct. Exactly. All right. Do you have a final recommendation? You don't have to, obviously. It can't be outdoors.
Starting point is 00:29:20 No. Indoors? I mean, heroin, I guess. Yeah. Nice. Yeah. Well, no, you can go outdoors. Family friendly. I'll do heroin. We've, I guess. Yeah. Nice. Yeah. Well, no, you can go outdoors. I'll do heroin distance.
Starting point is 00:29:27 We've been doing quite a bit of gardening. Yeah. Gardening as well, mate. Also, if you're in the park and you've got a dog and you're a dude wandering around, get the fuck away from me. Oh, James is really lusty. This guy who keeps following us around the park. I'm like, get away from me.
Starting point is 00:29:39 How old? Macy, you should have seen it. 60? He was doing the nostril flare. You know, he does the nostril flare when he gets mad. And his dog's like jumping on me. And I'm like, get your dog, man. Because it could travel through dogs.
Starting point is 00:29:50 And the thing is as well, like I'm probably not going to die if I get it. But if I have it and your dog gets it from, just get your dog away from me, man. Anyway. That's the final ticket. Yeah, that's where I'm at. All right. So don't get coronavirus. That's a big one.
Starting point is 00:30:05 That's the biggie. All right. Okay don't get coronavirus. That's a big one. That's the biggie. All right. Okay. That's it. That's it for now. I'll put some more recommendations at Claire20 on Instagram. And I will not. Mason, will you put anything?
Starting point is 00:30:16 Just some mouth noises. Just mouth noises, I think. Oh, that's good. But you're not going to put any recommendations online, obviously. No. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right. You'll be irresponsible for me. That's right. Okay. No. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right. You'll be irresponsible for me.
Starting point is 00:30:25 That's right. Okay, you two blokety blokes. All right. This has been Suggestible Pod. You can follow us on Instagram and Twitter at Suggestible Pod. Am I supposed to get a review? I think I'm supposed to, aren't I? Yeah, you are supposed to do it, but you can also review us in app.
Starting point is 00:30:38 Helps in a big way. And I also have a really lovely email here. So if you want to email the show with your own recommendations, if you found some genius things to do at home with your kids, my goodness, please email us. Actually, that would be great. Give us some ideas. Yeah, we need some more ideas.
Starting point is 00:30:51 God, we're at the very beginning of this journey. So if you are in the UK and it's been a bit longer, oh, my God. So I have an email here from the wonderful Elise Barr. Hi, Claire and James. Congrats on the bunch. And Maceo. No, she didn't say that. No, she didn't say hello to Maceo. Sorry Maceo. Such a thrilling journey. I just wanted to say that I love the pod
Starting point is 00:31:12 and started on the Weekly Planet and I've been working my way through many more and love them so thanks. My suggestible is a game for the Switch called Hue. It's a delightful game that has a somewhat simplistic design but uses colour in clever ways to get through each stage and I think you might both enjoy it i love the life of hugh laurie oh my goodness it's a point and click adventure game anyway five stars for me also she sent me a photo
Starting point is 00:31:35 in a really cool overall dress and i'm with you mate overalls overalls and a dress they're my bloody recommendations i love a bloody overall all right right, well, I can tell you this much. You can review in-app. It really helps the show. This is from Lady Meridon. It's 10 out of 5 stars. Oh, my goodness. If you're looking for a delightful conversation between two people
Starting point is 00:31:53 who you wish you could be friends with in real life, look no further. Doesn't say that. I don't know. It's debatable. Claire and James, always brighten my day and bring a smile to my face. What about myself? There's no mention of you here.
Starting point is 00:32:03 That's weird. That's weird. Can you amend and edit your reviews? I'll see if I can get this one wiped. How about myself? There's no mention of you here. That's weird. That's weird. Yeah. Can you amend and edit your reviews? I'll have to. I'll see if I can get this one wiped. How about that? If you could, yeah, that'd be good.
Starting point is 00:32:10 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll market a spam. Okay, great. Great. All right, we'll be back Wednesday, normal time, won't we, for whatever this is next week? Correctamundo. And I hope you enjoyed a little bonus sneaky episode.
Starting point is 00:32:21 Stay safe out there. We're thinking of you guys. I will. I'm thinking of you too. Oh, God, be sincere. I'm sincere. Yes, be sincere. Look at me.
Starting point is 00:32:30 You guys are never sincere. Why are you looking at me with those lovely arms out? We're so sincere. We're a couple of sincere boys. This is how we end our shows. We're speaking honestly. Just a couple of dudes. Why has Mason turned into a puppet?
Starting point is 00:32:44 I don't know. This is how we're sincere. We don't like dudes. Why has Mason turned into a puppet? I don't know. This is so insincere. Alright guys, well, from me, from the bottom of my heart, stay safe out there. Stay safe out there, you dickhead. Oh, wow. Wow, too far. I was trying to be funny.
Starting point is 00:33:01 As we say on Suggestible every week, fire some guns in the air. And don't think about the consequences. Alright, see ya. This podcast is part of the Planet Broadcasting Network. Visit planetbroadcasting.com for more podcasts from our great mates. I mean,
Starting point is 00:33:18 if you want. It's up to you. Hi, I'm Jessie Cruickshank from the number one comedy podcast, Phone a Friend, which I strongly advise you listen to. You know what else I suggest you look into? Becoming a host on Airbnb. Did you like that segue? Thank you. I recently started putting my guest house on Airbnb when I'm out of town, and I didn't realize how easy it would be until I did it. If you have a spare room, you could Airbnb it.
Starting point is 00:33:43 Or your whole place could be an Airbnb. It's a great way to make a little extra money by doing not a lot, which frankly is my mantra in 2024. To learn more, go to Airbnb.ca slash host.

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