Suggestible - Raya and the Last Dragon

Episode Date: March 4, 2021

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I was certainly not born ready. I feel like I'm never ready, but for this I am. Excellent. We do have a serious washing problem in our house. Anyway, enough of that. There's a rat of dishwashing powder. I know, I know, I know that. We might have to go to a sneaky hospital run. We might.

I meant. This is an emergency. We might. I meant. This is an emergency. We must. Run into the cold. Drop what you're doing. I need you to go into the hospital staff room. I need you to open the drawer next to the dishwasher. I need washing powder, not pallets.

Our machine only takes powder. Thank you. I know we're in the middle of a pandemic, but nothing is more important than clean dishes, as my pappy always said. That's what he used to say. Anyhoo, we didn't even have a dishwasher half the time. Anyway. Half the time?

Well, no, we did have a dishwasher eventually in the 2000s, but in like the 90s we didn't. No? No. What did you used to wash? Yes, but we mostly hand washed stuff anyway. Yeah, well, so did we. We mostly hand washed.

Parents' ways of torturing kids, I think. I don't know. Anyway, we're still washing dishes regardless. Some things just can't go in there. They totally can. Anyway, as riveting as that is, let's get on with the show. Welcome to Suggestible Pod. I'm Claire. James is here also. We are married and we recommend you stuff to watch, read and listen to.

We do, don't we? We do. And I'm really excited this week, James. You're really going to love my recommendations. I bet I'm not. Like, you're going to love them. You're going to love them so much. You want to make out with them. Oh, wow. Now I'm excited. No, make out with me. Don't be ridiculous.

No, I know. I'm making out with the ideas that you bring. I think that's very sexy. How gross would it be if you just did a podcast where it was just making out with people? I'm pretty sure that's ASMR. Just like that. That's gross.

I thought gross was that. No, ASMR is not. No, ASMR is anything. No, ASMR is anything. Oh, really? It's anything, yeah. Oh, because I only like the ones where it's a travel agent and she's like, welcome to the Hogwarts travel agency. Do you ever do the ones where it's like it's a travel agent

but it's the future or whatever? No. It's like you're going on a space flight. They do it all. They're really creative. There's really creative people in there but um have you ever heard of a muck bang oh god it's not as bad as you think but also it's bad it's a thing where people go like they'll just sit down and they'll have like a whole like table

full of food and they'll just like eat it on mic and on camera people love it that to me is like torture there's ones where like that make me really want to gag. I couldn't get through it even though it was like, I think it was like a video of somebody like talking about it where somebody was like had a giant crab and was like breaking it apart and like sucking all the innards of the crab out. And I'm like, oh, like I'm not very squeamish, but I was like, fuck this. I cannot get.

And it was a video about somebody being like, this is gross. And I'm like, I can't watch this. This is gross. This is gross. This is gross. Oh, yeah, gross because you do – you have to kind of snap things off. Yeah, and just like the claw. It was just – it was so gross. But that's why I never liked the Australian MasterChef.

I used to love that show, and then at a certain point there were three judges, and by the end it really started to bother me because when they got served food by the contestants, they would then kind of pristine to hunch over it and go. Yeah, and to be fair, like to make it worse, I used to do the sound effects where you'd be like. Yeah. Like I'd just do that like the whole time. Actually, I think you've transposed that sound into my memory

because actually they don't really make it that bad. Just like dabbing their mouths with like handkerchiefs afterwards. Matt Preston with his big pervert. The greasy mouths. It's gross. Anyway, the new judges are fantastic. It's better now. It's way better.

Yeah. Anyway. Anyway, you can go first this week. Oh, my God. I would love to go first because what I've looked at this week is I went and saw Raya and the Last Dragon. I went to a Disney premiere. Ooh, with our son.

I did. I took him along and the whole way he was like, why aren't we there yet? And I'm like, because we're driving there. And then we got there, we had to line up. And he's like, why are we lining up? And I'm like, because we've got to go inside. And then when we got inside, you know,

they give you a popcorn and a free drink at these premieres sometimes. Oh, my goodness. And then he's like, why are we standing at the front? And I'm like, this process, we can't just walk in. There's like several steps. And everybody's like, ah! But anyway, he really liked it. So it was directed by Carlos Lopez Estrada and Don Hall, right?

So it's a mostly Asian-American cast and the story is Southeast Asian-inspired adventure. It's a fictional land and whatever. So basically the idea is, first of all, it's got Kelly Marie Tran, who people would know as she's from The Last Jedi and then to a lesser extent that follow-up movie where she had like two lines of dialogue in that not very good Star Wars sequel. Some people say The Last Jedi is not very good and I say it is very good.

There's another thing on there. But it's got Awkwafina, it's got Gemma Chan, it's got Daniel Dae Kim who people might know from Lost. So basically it was a world where, I'm going to explain this badly, but there was a world where there was dragons, right, and the dragons had to, they did this thing where they got rid of all the dark. Why are you doing that squished up old man face that you do?

Yeah, because I'm trying to picture it in my mind. So there was too many, there was a lot of dragons, there were good dragons protecting the kingdom of where they lived, right, but then there was like these dark globby forces kind of take things over. So the dragons like managed to drive them back. But in doing so, the dragons themselves were eliminated. So there's only one dragon left and that dragon used like this dragon gemstone.

But then the dragon, then it's like 500 years later, but the kingdom's been divided, right? This feels very complicated. Yeah, it is a bit complicated. And then it's a bit like Avatar The Last Airbender because I briefly talked about this on The Wicked Planet, but I can talk about it probably now because the embargo's up. So, yeah, so the kingdom is divided now 500 years ago

and they're like, and then the crystal gets shattered. They're like, oh, no, the crystal gets shattered. And then all the darkness comes out of the earth and it's like, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And this girl called Raya has to, like, unite the pieces of the crystal because the googly monsters, when they touch people, they turn them to stone. And so everybody's been turned to stone and she has to go

through the kingdoms and like meet people on the way and find the last dragon and also bring the crystal back together. And every time the dragon touches the crystal, it gives it a brand new dragon power. And it's about like friendships and trust and unity and magic and mostly about like, it's mostly about trusting people and basically like you're different than me but, hey, let's work together, let's put aside our differences for a common good.

Like in a pandemic, say, for example, which is sort of like a pandemic but it's big googly monsters and it's a better tier of like animated movie. For me it was better than Frozen 2 but wasn't as good for me as Moana, which I love. Like I love Moana. Oh, yeah. I mean part of that is to do good for me as Moana, which I love. Like I love Moana. Oh, yeah. I mean part of that is to do with the soundtrack of Moana. Yes, and this doesn't have songs in the way that Moana does.

But if you've got kids, yeah, it's good for kids and it's a pretty solid adult story. And it seems like it's good for like 37-year-old men too. Yeah, true. It's true. And look, to be fair, like I didn't love it. Like it didn't like blow me away. Do you love much?

I love Moana when I saw it. Right. I didn't realise you loved it that much. I still love Moana. I think it's fantastic. Right. How do you compare that to say a Toy Story or a Lion King? It's hard because I saw those as kids so it's like when I was a kid

so it's kind of hard to compare. Like I love both of those movies. But I think Moana is genuinely one of like the all-time best animated movies ever. The animation is spectacular. Yes. But that's not like – it's not just that. It's like the music and the culture and like it's cast really well and there's some really funny, clever songs in it.

And Moana herself is just a great character. Yeah, she's amazing. And it's got like a great story and finale and it's just I found it really moving in a way that this isn't as much but it's still very good. And there was a short movie beforehand about dancing which I think you would have really liked. Oh, my goodness.

I wish I could have come. I would have loved that. Now, interesting you say it's better than Frozen 2. I wonder what I will think when I go and see it because as you know, we have very different opinions about Frozen 2 and I changed Ben's mind. I was like, I don't like Frozen 2 and he was like, I agree. But then he watched a bunch of behind the scenes stuff and he listened to you talk about it and he's like, actually, I love Frozen 2. I think it's amazing. So you turned Ben around on Frozen 2. I totally did.

Ben happens to be one of our wonderful editors. That's right. For the Miss Sunny Movies YouTube channel. You guys carry around a garbage and other stuff. And lots of things. He is wonderful. He is. He really is.

Yes. And I changed his mind, which makes me think he's an excellent book. Okay. Well, that sounds awesome. Yeah, it's cool. And I definitely will see it. So where can people watch it? At the movies.

The movies now. At the movies. Oh, cool. But also it's coming to streaming Disney. If it's not now, I think it might be now already. All right. I think it might be same day. Okay, cool.

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Listen. Oh, good. Okay. My favorite ads are the ones that you do, Claire, that you read. Oh, you're being. Listen to me. Listen. Good. Okay, go. My favourite ads are the ones that you do, Claire, that you read. Oh, you're being so nice to me. You always have some solutions. You should be. But I am good at reading ads, so here I go.

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I agree. Good Lord, let's keep going. That's right, they've just raised their prices once again. Typical. The stones on these guys. That's what I'm saying. Now you could just cancel your subscription in protest. Yeah, maybe.

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expressvpn.com slash suggestible to learn more. And now on with the show. On with the show. Okay, my turn. Okay, so I have two things to talk about. I'm going to talk about, what will I talk about? This one first. So a wonderful pal of mine recommended an episode

of Dax Shepard's Armchair Expert with Adam Grant. And as you know, I'm kind of hot and cold with his show. His friend Monica hosts it with him and she's really great and excellent and super smart. I thought he only did it by himself. No, no. So, I mean, I think he generally does the bulk of the interviews but she seems to be a producer as well and really clever

and they also kind of break things, break down the interviews after the guest leaves, which I find really interesting. Oh, that's interesting. And they also talk about their own experiences and their own relationship because they're best friends. So Dax Shepard is married to Kristen Bell. Yes.

But Monica sort of seems to be his best friend and they spend a lot, a lot of time together. She's sort of part of the family. So anyway, interesting on that note. But this particular episode is with an expert called Adam Grant. So Adam is an organisational psychologist, a professor at the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania and a TED speaker, and he discusses how to open people's minds,

the psychology of maximising and satisfying, and the advantages of imposter syndrome, which I don't know whether I've made that sound very interesting, but he's such a charismatic, positive speaker and highly gifted in being able to really logically lay out people's thought patterns. Right, right. And he's highly scientific. So he gives you a lot of kind of information about why people behave the way they do and how we can change our patterns of behavior for the better.

And he's written a book that's coming out soon, which I haven't read, but they talk about on the show too. A couple of the takeaways from this podcast episode that I just loved was the idea of being humble and curious when it comes to talking to people. Right. Which sounds really simple, but so often people are either, you know, on kind of these massively polar opposites of an issue, and he talks about how in actuality in most topics things are complex and there's shades of grey everywhere.

Yeah, right. And he also said studies have shown that the further right wing or left wing you get on an issue, the less intelligent you are, which I find really interesting if you're very extreme on either side, whereas intelligent people tend to know what they don't know and constantly question themselves. Because the more that you understand about a particular area, the more you understand that you don't know much about it. Sure. Which I thought was a really interesting thing to think about.

And so he said when it comes to thinking about issues or entering into an argument with someone, being humble and curious and asking questions when you don't understand something that someone's saying is kind of hard to do in the moment and often we fake it, like we might nod our way through. Yeah. Whereas he did this experiment when he just would write in his phone when someone started to bring up like, for instance,

he doesn't know anything about music and people would bring up, I don't know, Taylor Swift's latest album, have zero clue, zero idea. He had no idea that Ziggy Stardust was the same as David Bowie. Yeah, right. Like no idea. And that's cool. That's not cool. You should know that.

No, but I am so guilty of this because I have very little trivia knowledge, really, of pop culture. Your brain is like an encyclopedia for all this stuff. Yeah, you're a bunch of useless crap. No, but it's not useless. Whereas my brain is like a Teflon surface. None of that kind of those facts stick easily. And so, yeah, he said he made a list and then he would,

of the things that he doesn't know about, and then he made an effort to ask more about it or go and Google it and just find out some information rather than kind of doubling down and just ignoring that part of something because you don't know about it. I think that's a good way to be. Yeah, yeah. The other thing he talked about was that people can be fitted into two categories, maximizers and satisfiers. So I'm going to butcher this and he obviously explains it much better in the podcast. Let's get him on. Yeah, we bloody should.

Anyway, but I thought you would find this interesting. Okay. So a maximizer is someone that always wants to find the absolute best thing in whatever situation it's in, the best meal to order in the restaurant, the best house to buy on the market, the best, I don't know, even in relationships. That's you. That's what you do. I know, but this is why I find it's really interesting. You're paralyzed by choice.

Yes, exactly. And so he talked about how when you're a maximizer, that can actually happen that you end up less happy than people who were satisfiers and satisfy, yeah, satisfies us because they're kind of happy with good enough. Like I'm, I'm happy with this meal, even though someone else might have a better one. It doesn't stop me from enjoying the meal that I have. Yes. And I'm grateful for this particular thing and that'll do, you know, that kind of idea. I guess you can also be like depending on what it is because there's

some things where I know you're like, yeah, whatever, and other things you're like, get this right, this is important. I want to order the right thing at the cafe that I go to three days a week. Yeah, exactly. Which I order, just get the same thing. I always get, I know. And then I get so sad if I order the wrong thing. Or you'll run up and change.

I will. Do you think it's too late to change? No, they just left. You can change. I'm so annoyed. But that's because I always want to get like the perfect thing. And I just thought that was a really interesting way to think about it because he said satisfies us, yeah, just tend to be overly,

overall happier in life because they're less worried about what they're missing out on and happy to enjoy what's in front of them. Right. And he said it can also be applied to relationships. Maximizers can spend their whole life thinking, but what if there's someone better out there or something like that, which is not me, by the way.

Well, wait a minute. Because I found the perfect one. Well, that's the thing though. If you do find the perfect thing, are they then happy? Yeah. Well, that's the thing. Like I find in my experience, yes, the deep satisfaction that I get when I find the thing that I love.

Yeah. Why are you on all these different dating apps? What's that about? It's just fun. So obviously with all of this stuff, he's a psychologist and he delves into all the research of this stuff, but obviously people are individuals and all of those things. But, yeah, I thought that was interesting,

whereas Satisfizers kind of have more of an attitude to relationships that you actually build them and you make that person the perfect, well, not perfect relationship, but you make that relationship work for you and for each other. Oh, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, gotcha. Which I actually think in relationships I think that that's such a. I think that's how you should enter a relationship. Right, yeah. People aren't whole, not even that.

People aren't. People evolve and you grow together or you should or try to at least, yeah. Yeah, yeah, and it's not about. Or get divorced, whatever, it doesn't matter. Yeah, what do you want? Yeah, yeah. And it's not about. Or get divorced, whatever. It doesn't matter. Yeah. What do you want? Yeah, I just kind of like that idea about growing together and being that perfect partner for the other person

and understanding that no one is perfect. No. But that you're building something together. Yes. In that life that you're creating and you're trying to be that person for the other. Anyway, it was just a really fascinating conversation because he also talks a lot about right and left-wing extremism and how we need to get back

to understanding that issues are always complex with a whole lot of different sides to them. Yes, sure. And that if we don't look at those shades of grey and the complexity in things, we're really going to end up in just the scariest point, you know, place, which we kind of already are really. And Dax Shepard actually says he finds that the scariest thing, that people are so in their bubbles, we're not hearing each other. And so the notion of like rigorous academic thought and science and all of that stuff is just not there. So in the same way. I think also people use sometimes academic thought in like bad faith arguments

of like they'll give an example of somebody. I'm like, oh, no, this is a terrible person that you're citing here. Yeah. But, no, I see what you mean. I know. Yeah, I know. Yeah, it's just more that on any given issue there's so many different sides and nuance and it's just I like that idea of trying to stay open and humble

and curious rather than immediately defensive. Yeah, sure. Which is really difficult to do and it depends on what the issue is, obviously, and your own life experiences and all the things. Anyway. But keep politics out of video games. That's what I always say and comics. Correct.

Anyway, so, yeah, Dax Shepard's I'm Too Expert with Adam Grant. Yes. Over to you, Sonny Pop. I think politics should be in everything. And it is actually. That's what I think for real though. Yeah, well, it can't help but be. I mean, every office has politics.

Do you know how many comments I get that like Star Wars doesn't have to get political? Fucking newsflash. It's always been political. The first one is literally about the Vietnam War. But whatever. Whatever. Now I'm going to get emails, though, where people are like,

well, actually, shut up. I don't want your fucking emails. Shut up. All right. I do. Please email the show. No. Yeah, email Claire.

Don't email me. I get enough comments. All right. Off he goes. He's so angry. I'm so excited to tell you my next thing. Because the Ewoks are the Vietnamese, Claire. And the Empire, in that case, is like the military-industrial complex

and it shows that what happens when a small band of fighting force goes up against a seemingly unstoppable foe, it's Vietnam War, Claire. Okay. And the prequel trilogy, that was more about. That evolved into George Bush's. Oh, ow. In the Iraq war. My nose.

Is anyone else out there's partner just obsessed with this stuff and they couldn't care. And the sequel trilogy is more about like neo-Nazism and sort of, but it's kind of, it muddles the story a little bit towards the end there. Anyway, I want to talk about New Amsterdam, a show that has just come to Netflix. It's created by David Schulner, and it's based on the book Twelve Patients,

Life and Death at Bellevue Hospital, and it's spied by Bellevue Hospital in New York City, which is actually the oldest public hospital in the US. It stars Ryan Egold, Freeman, Agumon, Janet Montgomery, Jocko Sims. And it's a hospital drama, say. But you might be like, I think it's in the style of like Grey's Anatomy, but it's a bit like it's leveled down from the drama that you'll see in a show like that. You know what I mean?

It's not like I've been shot and the person who shot me is also my husband and I'm pregnant with a horse or whatever happens in that show like that. You know what I mean? It's not like I've been shot and the person who shot me is also my husband and I'm pregnant with a horse or whatever happens in that show. I haven't watched it in a very long time. But it's still going for some reason. I guess people like it. So it starts with this public hospital and they get a new head of the hospital, the hospital, the big doctor they call him, and that's the official term.

McDreamy? No. Oh, he's a bit like that. But he comes in and he's like and he just comes indreamy no it's a bit like that but he comes in and he's like and he just comes in and immediately shakes it up and he's like okay so basically i want to do the things that you think will make this hospital better he tells his staff and is and nobody's putting their hands up and he goes okay who's in the surgical uh who's who's a surgeon here whatever and they put their hands up and he's like you're all fired get the fuck out because

they've been overbilling their patients and basically by just churning people through. And so then and from there he's like, what else? And people are like, can we get, you know, waiting times down, can we get healthy food in the cafeteria? He's like, sure, whatever. And so he's basically just going through and kind of systematically dismantling all the things that are wrong with it and trying to build it up in a different way before he gets fired or trying to walk the line in that.

And it deals with a lot of like social issues and obviously things to do with the healthcare system, the world over, but like more specifically the US because often, you know, a lot of bankruptcy in the US is caused by medical debt, which is insanity if you look into it. But basically it's this team kind of on a limited budget with limited resources trying to make the best of it and trying to work this system in a way that benefits people without killing them essentially or sending them away.

But yeah, and spoiler alert, and this is revealed in the first episode, but he's sick. He's got a form of cancer. So he's kind of like he's running against the clock and he's got home problems, which everybody seems to have in the show. I mean everybody's got their own thing going on, but it's not just medical doctors.

It's got like psychiatrists and it looks at like the janitorial staff and the admins and it kind of covers like the whole thing in a way that's like and it's a drama, you know what I mean? So it's like this person's sleeping and this person's awake. Stuff like that happens, but it's mostly about like the people that come in and how that comes together. Anyway, it's on Netflix. It's kind of a thing that I wouldn't normally watch but I just saw it and I'm like, yeah, I've got this to go.

And you're enjoying it. It's pretty good. It's pretty good. All right, that sounds something like I would watch. You would watch it. It's good. You should watch it. That reminded me of Elizabeth Warren on Jimmy Fallon having

this amazing discussion about medical debt and all of the problems with taxation in the US and all the things. She's just wonderful. She just has this real gift because she's a university professor of explaining the way money works over there and particularly problems with the healthcare system. I have a gift of explaining the movie Raya and the Last Dragon. There's a dragon and there's a crystal and the crystal is bright

and there's kingdoms and the kingdoms, but they need to bring the kingdoms together. I just had this flash of memory. When we first started dating and you would tell me things about movies and I would just sit there in awe, just like nodding along. In awe where you're like, he knows so much about movies. And now I'm like. You're probably like, he's so knowledgeable. What. And now I'm like. Yeah. He's probably like, he's so knowledgeable.

What else does he know? Nothing. Literally nothing. You know plenty. You know how many calories are in things for his weighing stuff? You got to look at the back of the thing, Claire. You totally do. I should do my oats recipe.

You got to teach kids. Yeah, I used to. I'm going to be doing some classroom work, which you did today, in our son's classroom. We'll see how that goes. It was actually really fun. I'm a bit rusty. Yeah, it used to. Yeah. I'm going to be doing some classroom work, which you did today, in our son's classroom. We'll see how that goes. It was actually really fun. I'm a bit rusty. Yeah, it was really fun.

I had a great time. I was kind of a mean teacher, not like intentionally, but so I got to cut it. I realised for younger kids you've really got to pare that back. Yeah, they really don't cope so well. No. No. They did Clippy Cloppy like little stilts today.

Oh, yeah. It was super cute. It was really fun. Nice. Anyway, okay, my next recommendation is, wait for it, surfing. Oh, man, surfing. Because a couple of weeks ago I took my good self with my good friend Kate surfing.

Yes, you did. And now just before you think, oh, my goodness, I didn't realise Claire was a surfer, babe, hanging out there. Nobody thought that. Hanging 10, like running through the sand, doing cartwheels. That's what the surfers do. Is that what surfing is? Smoking pot behind the sheds.

Did you do any actual surfing? Driving their combi vans. Did you get in the water or did you just run up and down the beach? What else did they do? Light fires on the beach. Oh, my goodness. Talk to the chickies. Does a beach bully come up and he's like, what's going on, babe?

And you're like, actually, I'm taken. He's like kicking sand in people's faces. It's one of those guys. Yeah, I did see that guy. No, so what I really wanted to recommend at the heart of this was doing stuff that you're not very good at and having a go and how good it is. And I know because obviously the privilege of being able to go surfing at the beach is not lost on me at all, particularly people who are

in lockdown at the moment. We're out of touch with the common man. I know. It's the end of summer in Australia and we've finally been allowed out and I felt so lucky anyway. So we went and hired these giant foam boards and I'll tell the rest of the story in my newsletter, Tons, which comes out every Friday. So I've got a little story about what happened.

There's a funny little story about a bloke called Bruce who we encountered and a few other things. So you can sign up in the link below and it comes out every Friday morning. So anyway, all I really wanted to say was that I am a terrible surfer and I bloody loved it and I think it's so good for us to just get out of our comfort zone and try something different, especially at the moment, especially if it's something physical and outdoors and outside.

Totally, yeah. Like even, I don't know, what did Samuel Johnson, the Australian actor do, learn to ride a unicycle? I don't know, just stuff, especially as adults. I think as kids we're just constantly being put in situations where we have to learn and trust ourselves and figure things out. And as adults we kind of stop doing that and watch more Netflix. That's what I love about being an adult.

Or sit on our phone for a while. Oh, my God, I love it. The dream. Anyhoo, so it was just the best. So I know you hate surfing but I love it. The dream. Anywho, so I, it was just the best. So I know you hate surfing, but I love it. I'm so bad. I got so much water up my nose. Oh, my God.

At one point I was like, do I need to take myself to the hospital because I put so much seawater up my nose. You were going to always touch your brain? Yeah, I felt like that. You were pickling your brain in seawater? Lucky I'm not a medical professional. See, there you go. You know about brain pickling.

What? Anywho, that was that. You know what I did know about when you die? What? When you die, right, and you go to the morgery. Yeah. And then, you know, so, you know, when you see a dead body. Yeah.

The eyes are closed. When they've been barbed and I don't know. The eyes are closed because what they do, they put in contacts where they their little barbs on the outside that keeps your eyelids shut. Oh, that's awful. Why did you tell me that? That's so awful.

So just in case you were worried that when I die my eyes spring open, I'm going to have one eye open. You come in, I'm going to be like, hmm, look at you with one eye. You would put that in your will. You wanted to booby trap your grave so you'd spring out on people at the funeral. And I wanted to create like this false story about how I was buried with all my treasures.

I'll say Bitcoin. That's what I'll say. I'll say I was buried with all my Bitcoin units. Yeah, and then people will go, oh, I'm going to dig this guy up and then I'll have my lurch out of the grave with one eye open. Look, I'll do that for you. I'd love that. But you're not allowed to die.

I'm just letting you know that right now. No, just kick me into a river. I don't give a shit. All right, we've got some letters, don't we? Yeah, we do have some fun things. But we have one more thing to talk about. What else have we got to talk about? We've got to talk about planet broadcasting.

Oh, my goodness, yeah. That's right, yeah. Yes. I haven't announced this on the Weekly Planet yet, so this is new news. But you're going to come on and talk about that as well. Yeah, I am. On Sunday I'm going to come on. I haven't been on the old planet for bloody 10 teeth.

That's not the same. You've done some cameos, don't get me wrong. People know you're out and about. Yeah, I tend to slam doors and do a few bits of bobs. It's true. But generally I haven't been on for a while. Anyway, anyway, anyway. Anyway, but I thought we'd just like mention it briefly.

Yeah. So I have been thinking for a while that I wanted to do some of my own creative stuff and I haven't had the time because I've been working on Suggestible. Well, yeah, Suggestible but on Planet Broadcasting and we've decided now that we partner with ACAST and they're so wonderful that the external podcasts like Do Go On and Don't You Know Who I Am and Book Cheat and Aunty Donna and all those fantastic shows.

Yeah, Batch Bitch, all of those ones, Bick and Em's Comedy Gems, all of those shows. We no longer need to, I guess, have them in the – Oh, I missed that. When are they going to come back? It doesn't matter. It is a really good show. But they no longer really need us in the same way because ACAST

is there to support them. Yes. And so we've decided to sort of change Planet Broadcasting to just be shows that we make in-house. And we're going to be changing up the website and kind of amalgamating our subscription service, Big Sandwich, and doing some exciting things behind the scenes. We're also not paywalling anything.

Oh, no. We won't be changing anything. Any more stuff than we're already doing. Yeah, exactly. And it won't really change anything from a listener perspective if you listen to any of our other shows. They'll also be available in exactly the same way, so nothing would change.

However you listen to them, they will still be there. They've always been creator-owned and driven. So we don't own any of them, so they just continue to exist for as long as they want to. Exactly. And we support all of them absolutely. So also the Planet Broadcasting Facebook group, Great Mates, will still exist in exactly the same way and they'll still all be able

to post and chat and all the hosts will still be in there when they want to be, all of those things. But if you mention Duga on a sweater, God, you're blocked. Oh, we love those guys. So in a way I'm sad because it's an end of the year. We've been doing this for almost five years now because when we started. There were no like ad platforms or anything like that. No, and no way of really helping podcasts to kind of connect

with each other and get their sort of content out. And so it was an idea really that started from me and then we kind of talked about it with Mason and with you. And it's been such a ride and I've learnt so much and I think we all have really loved it. I think also like because you're doing, because it still involves a lot of work on your behalf and also Collings does a lot of stuff like updating the website and newsletter and all these other things.

He works tirelessly. There's a bunch of stuff on that. And I just think for you in particular, though, you need more time to do kind of your own stuff and I think it's, you know. And also for Collings too because that bloke is very creative, our wonderful editor, and we want him to have more time to be able to do some of his own sort of creative editing. Just do nothing.

Just watch some Netflix. Oh, chill. I know because that guy works around the clock. Anyway, so we've made the decision and everyone is still great mates and the Facebook group is still the same. But there will be some interesting changes coming up on the website over the next few months. So stay tuned for those.

What specifically? We don't know yet. We don't know. We're still trying to figure that out. It takes a while to rejig a website. Our first website took months to build. And then we built another website. So this is kind of the third iteration of Planet Broadcasting.

But again, like. Time to grow and change. Regular stuff. Everything that's behind the big sandwich thing, which some people have signed up for with a bunch of bonus podcasts. Oh, that will stay. That's all there. But like we're not putting anything else that we,

anything that's free was not behind there. We're not changing any of that. Yeah. So we're not changing any of that at all. It'll all stay the same. It's more just those, the podcasts that are created, owned externally. And we're still guesting and stuff and all this. Oh, yeah.

Because Mason's doing a, he's going to be, there's a Prime Mates Melbourne show, which he's doing in like a few weeks from now. So there'll still be stuff like that happening. Oh, yeah. We're still all in Melbourne. We're still going to be guesting and everything. It's more just that the website will be looking very different. Yeah.

Mark's coming back to talk about Mortal Kombat hopefully. Oh, cool. Marge Adonis. Oh, yeah. He's great. There you go. Yeah, so we're all still, you know, friends and all the things, but I think it's time to change things up a little bit.

So I'm excited. I'm a little sad. Yeah, it is a little bit sad, but, you know, none of these people are collapsing, which is good. No, they're not, not at all. And A-Cast are great and are really great supporters of all the shows. So I've worked myself out of a job really and I'm quite happy with that. Well done. Because when we started there was no one that could do the job that I was doing.

More time for Netflix. Correct, exactly. More time for frolicking about in meadows, smelling the flowers. Have we got some things that you can listen to though, Claire? Do we have an email this week, an audio email? We certainly do have an email but not an audio one. Oh, so I don't need to make it fast. I know you love listening.

I love listening to things. I know but this one's not an audio one. So I'm going to read you one from Tim Wallace. Oh, like an audio email. It's an email. If you have a recommendation, you can write to the show at stepsforpod. gmail.com. We would love you to, just like Tim from California has.

Surf's up, Tim. I just recently started your podcast episode on Promising Young Woman, and while I haven't finished listening to it because I took your advice and wanted to watch the movie first, I did want to say that I thoroughly enjoyed your banter as husband and wife and the stories you told about your son and his adventures, or supposed lack thereof at school. James' humour with your son makes me laugh out loud constantly and Claire's caring and motherly fun disposition reminds me of the kids I work with and all the fun I try to have but inevitably get nothing out of. I work with kids affected by autism for my job in playful learning environments.

I can't begin to tell you how many times I've been met with blank faces and discussions about Mario when I ask them about school. All of that considered, I just wanted to send a message saying how happy the stories make me and they certainly are welcome in the future. P.S., don't forget the big sandwich. And, Claire, make sure you're buying real Transformers. That's so true. Can't get any of these knockoff Transformers.

There are some good ones, but the quality often dips when you get into the third hand. The $2 shops, which is where I've been buying some from. Correct. Thanks, Tim. You're spot on. And that's the email for this week. There was a moment, I think, I don't know,

you weren't there where Mason and I were talking about. You bought like a Transmorph or whatever. It was like Trainmaster or something. Oh, yeah, that was terrible. It was a terrible one. And Mason, we brought it up and he's like, why did you buy that? And I'm like, mums don't know. And he's like, yeah, you're right, mums don't know.

What? About specifically Transformers. Oh, yeah, I don't know about Transformers. If one of us is going to know, I don't. Some mums know about Transformers. I just happen to not know about Transformers. Hashtag not I don't know about Transformers. If one of us is going to know, I don't. Some mums know about Transformers. I just happen to not know about Transformers. Hashtag not all mums. Just this mum because I don't give a shit about Transformers.

That's a long hashtag. Wow. Hashtag not all mums except this mum who don't know about Transformers because I don't give a shit. No, I do. You know what? To be fair, I don't like the movies, but I actually think Transformers are really cool.

They are. As a toy, I think they're really awesome. And one okay movie followed by 100 terrible movies in a row. Yeah, I think I fell asleep in a couple of action sequences. You only saw the second one. That's the only one you've seen. Oh, right. Okay.

Well, yeah, I fell asleep in that action sequence. It was bad. Oh, no. While I tell you that, do you know what? I got an email from Phyllis Online Bureau, which sells the best wig collections. Oh, my goodness. Send that my way. I know.

I haven't been looking up wigs. Why did I get that email? I don't even know. They're pretty good wigs, though. Like, if I wanted a wig, it's pretty cool. Quality wigs are hard to come by. I know when I bought one for that time. I think this one would look really good on you.

It would cover your gray hair. It's a black wig with a fringe. That's like a Uma Thurman Pulp Fiction kind of look going on there. You could carry that off. I think I agree with you. Great. All right, are we ready? Are we done?

We've been stressful pod. Thank you so much to colleagues for editing the show. And we will back next week. All right, goodbye, everybody. Bye. Till next week. Till next week. back next week.

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