Suggestible - Skinny Little Knees

Episode Date: October 31, 2019

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No, I'm talking about you, husband. No, because you were looking directly at the audience. No, I was looking at your graying beard. Oh, come on, mate. It's sexy. It's fine. I don't believe you. Look, you look older every day.

Thanks. But I like it. Well, isn't that, that's good, isn't it? Yes. Oh, by the way, I'm Claire, you're James. I'm James. We recommend things. We do.

I don't just insult my husband. I mean, a large percentage of this podcast is us just insulting each other. Correct. Exactly. Love is built on many insults. We're very kind during the week and then we unleash it all. In this half an hour podcast. In a public forum.

Excellent. Okay. So listen, I normally go first. Does that still apply to this particular day? Yeah, I guess so. Okay, excellent. Older gentlemen's first. Does that still apply to this particular day? Yeah, I guess so. Okay, excellent. Older gentlemen's first. Oh, I should have said elderly gentlemen's first.

That would have been better. But you got the general idea right, didn't you? You got your message across. Just before you bang on about the thing you're recommending, I have a theory. What annoys me about being a woman sometimes? I can tell you what annoys me about you being a bloody woman. I don't know bloody much, man.

No. I just think that you effortlessly get better looking as you age. I disagree. I think if you look at maybe some odd haircuts I've had, sure, I've made some improvements. Yeah, I know. Remember the days when you came out from the hairdresser with your shiny, shiny black hair that the woman had said, definitely dye all your hair black.

No, because she was like, you've got a wedding coming up. It wasn't our wedding. It was another wedding. Oh, it was MC. She's like, this will just take the edge off. And I'm like, great, no worries. And she gave me this Beatles haircut. It was like jet black.

And I went home and I just shaved my head. I'm like, I'll just go. No, no, no. You skipped one step. You picked me up from my mom and dad's house. I got in the car and you went, what do you think? No, there's no way I went to you and went, this is fine, isn't it? Because it wasn't.

It was so shiny. Anyway, the movie that I'm recommending today, she was like 17. Why did I let her talk me into it? Anyway, it's Dolomite Is My Name. It's a Netflix movie. Is Dolomite your name? No, it's the name of this movie. It stars, not exclusively, but Wesley Snipes, Keegan-Michael Key,

Divine Joy Randolph, Craig Robinson, who you might know as Daryl from The Office. Oh, yes, I do because I don't know any of those names. But it is. No, you'll definitely know some of them. But it actually stars Eddie Murphy as Rudy Ray Moore, who basically was this hero of Eddie Murphy growing up because the story about this guy is, well, Eddie Murphy describes him as he's a loser who can't lose.

So by the time the film opens in the early 70s, he's kind of old and he's kind of doughy and he's hustling still to break out into comedy and music. Like he's an emcee in a comedy room and he keeps trying to push his records for local radio stations to play and they're just not interested in this guy at all. So what he does off the back of listening to some stories from some homeless guys, he develops this character called Dolomite,

which is part pimp, part pepper. Peter picks a pipe of pepper, pickled peppers. He's a pimp and nightclub owner who uses this kind of rhyming slang to tell these amusing and rude stories. So he records this album, goes to sell it. This is all true, by the way. Nobody's interested in it, even though it has a really huge groundswell in the local community.

So he starts selling them just off his own bat, and they do really, really well. They can't be played anywhere because they're very rude. For now it's like. They're very rude. They're very rude. For now it's like it's pretty standard stuff. Probably just a few swears.

That's there. That's right. But for then it was like there's no way that they could play this. So off the back of that he decides to make a movie with this character. So he puts everything on the line. He sells the rights to his records, which are doing really well, and he makes this, with no movie experience he makes this movie about this character dolomite in it he is like this sleazy kung fu fighting womanizing caricature of a human

being and it's this it's this complete nonsense blacks blacks deportation i can never say that word properly film from the era. It came out in 1975. And again, nobody wanted to pick it up, so he made this movie. It went into huge debt. Then found a cinema himself, released it, it built a groundswell, studios wanted to buy it, then it got a nationwide

release and ended up being one of the top ten films of the year. Basically, it's about this guy who it's about I guy who, it's about, I guess, giving voice to the voiceless because all the comedies that were for the black community at the time, or no, comedies, there were none. So he really, like he found this market that people just assumed didn't exist or weren't interested going to because there's a moment

where they're sitting in this theatre for this comedy that I can't, I don't know what the comedy is and he's watching it he's like where are the jokes in this what what what is this and he really goes out of his way to give voice to the voiceless in his movie like in his movies and like in the casting and and getting people on board and it's a really fascinating tale of this of this human being who he never really quite reached mainstream success because it was there was always this kind of cap on because of the kind of swearing and the rudeness of his work. He never quite broke out in that big way.

Like people know him and you may have heard of these movies but they're not really mainstream until I'd say probably this movie that just came out. And Eddie Murphy is terrific in this movie. Oh, that's great. And it's clearly a passion project of his because he wanted to make it like 15 years ago when this guy was still alive and he wasn't really interested in making it.

He was like, I don't want to make a movie about my life or whatever. So he made it once the guy died. Yeah, pretty much. He was like, great, get that guy out of the way. But it's like a love letter. It's not insulting. And even though he plays this ridiculous womanising kung fu, shooting people kind of, it's kind of like they kind of meant

to make it a shaft and then they just kept putting all these weird and funny things in it, like weird sex scenes and terrible fist fights and shootouts and things like that. And it's really, if you've ever seen any clips of the movie, it's really quite funny. And because there's this real kind of charm to it, like the real, the nature that they, the way that they made it, like they, the building that they filmed it and they didn't have any power.

So they just stole the power from next door to make it. Nobody was really being paid and all these kinds of things. And Wesley Snipes is really good because he plays this kind of snooty actor who's, who's done a few kind of roles in mainstream movies who ends up directing this movie. And I've never seen him play a role like this before, and he's quite good. But what's interesting is there's a real earnestness to the real,

to Rudy Ray Moore himself, even though he does, it's just a persona, this character. And he is really about just, like I said, representing people who aren't necessarily being represented or being entertained to, I would say, on this kind of level. People hadn't seen really a movie like this before. And it's just terrific. It's well worth watching. It's really funny.

It's really heartfelt. Also, this guy, which I didn't know, had a huge influence on rap. He's considered by some to be like the godfather of rap because of the way he would rhyme in his comedy. Snoop Dogg, who's actually in this, has said that without Dolomite, there's no Snoop Dogg. So this is the kind of influence that this guy kind of has. Anyway, it's getting some award buzz. And I think you should definitely watch it because it's kind of great.

Oh, it sounds brilliant. Where is it available? It's on Netflix. On Netflix. Yeah, I watched it last night. Isn't that amazing about streaming services, right? I think that there's so many stories that haven't been told before that can be told that don't have to rely on, you know,

selling seats in a theatre. Yes. And Netflix has just opened this whole world up to, you know, just so many – and they're doing – Well, streaming in general, I guess, yeah. Yeah, totally. But I think those streaming services and Netflix particularly Definitely. Just so many. And they're doing. Well, streaming in general, I guess. Totally. But I think those streaming services and Netflix particularly just really seems to be trying to champion as many different creators as possible.

And it's obviously, it's a way for them to make money. Of course, yeah. But it does kind of reflect what this guy was kind of doing at the time. Like he was just at the lowest of the low end times. And I love the way that Eddie Murphy puts it that, yeah, like I said, he's this loser who just can't lose. Like he's not really good at anything but just the grind and the way and the passion that he has for this dumb thing.

Like it's a dumb thing but it's great. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. And maybe back then they didn't have that kind of comedy. No, there wasn't. I mean Shaft is like there was Shaft but Shaft's, you know, funny as well in parts but there's a seriousness to it which this kind of isn that was coming through. No, there was shaft, but shaft's funny as well in parts, but there's a seriousness to it which this kind of isn't.

Just watch it. It's really good. I think you'll really like it. Anyways, I know you wanted to recommend something, correct? I did, correct. Did you want to recommend your skinny little knees? Why are you going on about that today? All I'm walking around the house and all he keeps saying is,

what are you doing with your skinny little knees? They're not even that skinny. You've got skinnier legs than me. You've got skinny little knees. You're not even that skinny. You've got skinnier legs than me. You've got skinny little knees. You're like a chicken-legged man. You're a bit more balanced now, but when we first started dating, you were doing all upper body weights, mate, and nothing below. No leg day.

No leg day. So you had like two little toothpick legs. And jet black hair. And jet black hair. You were the red streak when we first met. I did, yeah. Pretty cool stuff. You were like 21.

I looked terrible. Freshly 21. It's all right. I had that weird short met. I did, yeah. Pretty cool stuff. You were like 21. I looked terrible. Freshly 21. It's alright. I had that weird short fringe. I remember. Remember that photo that was taken of us on the night we met and we've hidden it away and I've lost it now because it was so awful. It'll show up again. Every like six years it shows up and we both look at it and go, oh my

God. So awful. Just on that note about Eddie Murphy, I'm really glad he's made something great because I know after we talked about that episode of him with Jerry Seinfeld on Comedians in Cars Getting Coffee, he was really nervous, right, about kind of doing a comeback. Not that this is a stand-up comedy. No.

But he is doing Saturday Night Live soon as well, which hasn't been on for like 25 years or something. So he's coming back in. He's coming back. He's coming back into the game. I love it. I mean, he's rich. He doesn't need to.

But the thing is, I think he's a genuine talent. Yeah. Oh, my gosh. He's Eddie back. Back into the game. I love it. I mean, he's rich. He doesn't need to. But the thing is, I think he's a genuine talent. Yeah. Oh, my gosh. He's Eddie Murphy. Obviously. But even when he was making. And in the morning, I'll make a waffles. But even, yeah, even when he was making kind of bad stuff,

you're still like, well, I know he's good. And you're just kind of waiting for him to do like the next. I just hope nothing weird comes out about him. Sure, yeah. You know, me too-ish related. Well, there's that fear of literally. I mean, obviously if there is stuff, we want it to come out. But I really hope. I know you may, yeah. There's that fear of literally everybody. Sure, yeah. You know, Me Too-ish related. Well, there's that fear of literally. I mean, obviously if there is stuff where you want it to come out, but I really don't.

Yeah, I know you, mate, yeah. There's that fear of literally everybody. No, right? Exactly. Okay, on that note, can I talk about my stuff now? Yeah, you're getting a little news. Go for it. Oh, yeah, here we go.

Okay, so I have two things, but the first thing I wanted to talk about was a book I've just finished. It's a memoir. It's by one of my favorite singer-songwriters from Melbourne, Claire Bowditch, and the memoir is entitled Your Own Kind of Girl. I went to the book release on Thursday and it was just so joyful to see her interviewed. Her music has been a big influence on me for a really long time and a lot of people, I think people especially who struggle with their creativity would relate to her song

Amazing Life. She's also done a lot of others that are fantastic. Your Own Kind of Girl, which is kind of inspiring, the title of this book is a brilliant song about, and I did get a review recently that Clara only reviews stuff made by women about women. Well, there's a thousand things reviewing stuff by men about men. Well, I exclusively review stuff about men,

so I think it's a good balance. You don't actually, and I appreciate that. Anyway, she reflects a lot because she's, I would say, very voluptuous and she doesn't strike you as someone who would immediately fit into the stereotype of a musician, particularly in the early days when she talks about in the 90s when she was sort of starting her career. She didn't see anyone like her anyway. This was before the days of Liz Owen.

And even now, really, there's so much pressure on women to look that one particular way, be, you know, size six and all of that kind of thing. And she struggled a lot with her mental health and she had a nervous breakdown when she was 21. And her book really encapsulates what it feels like to be a woman growing up in a world that doesn't really appreciate you for the things that you want to be appreciated for, like your brain and your voice and your loudness and your talent. Often I think, and it's changing now, but I think there's a lot of pressure internally and externally on women to fit into particular molds.

I read an excerpt of it online where she talks about how she was kind of a chubby kid, but she loved it. Like she loved her body and like how jiggly it was. And she would like run around. Yeah, and she was so funny and great. There's a really sort of interesting pivotal moment in her life. And I related to this where she got put on a diet when she was in grade five and she comes back after the summer holidays just like as skinny

as a rake and all of these mums ask her. Everyone's like, oh, my goodness, you look great. And she suddenly realised that, oh, I thought it was only the bullies that thought I was too fat but I realised it was everybody. And then all these mums and teachers are like asking for photocopies of her diet. You know, the stuff that couldn't really happen now but at the time, you know, everyone was photocopying her like cottage cheese

stuffed tomato recipes and things. But that kind of gave her a complex and kind of mirrored back to her that her size wasn't okay. Yeah. And because she suddenly started getting less attention and all that stuff. Something else, and it's not spoiling it, very pivotally early on you find out that she had an older sister who was five and she was, you know, maybe three years old and her sister got diagnosed with an illness,

well, undiagnosed for six months anyway, and after a couple of years she passed away. So for two years her sister lived in the children's hospital and she comes from this very Catholic family, five kids, really close, full of love and joy, and this amazingly wonderful giving family lost a daughter. Yeah. And that moment that that happens for her family and at that age

she would have been five when her sister passed, trying to kind of grapple with that and with that huge enormity of grief and I think it really only came out when she was 21, when she had that breakdown. She was over in London. She'd just been through a breakup and it just all kind of came out. So it's just such a great book for anyone who's ever doubted themselves and has imposter syndrome.

Not me. Yeah. Sounds like a terrible book for someone like me. No, so many people have reviewed it and said it was brilliant. Lee Sales, who you know I love, I always talk about, said Claire Bowditch made me feel how wonderful and difficult and amazing it is to be human. I love the cover as well.

Yeah, it's so great. It's of her with these like sunglasses on and she's just totally herself. She's like 12 there or maybe younger. Maybe younger. I think probably like eight. Bernard Fanning, who's another favourite musician of mine from Powderfinger, the band, says, brutal at times but funny as fuck.

This book will change a lot of lives for the better. And I totally believe that. She wrote it for people who are going through tough times, who are doubting themselves, who aren't sure of their place in the world. And she gives a lot of great advice at the end of the book and books to read and places to sort of go and resources for people. So it's just, I can't recommend it enough.

I read it in a day. It's a beautiful story told beautifully. And she's become this successful musician. And it's kind of incredible to think of her at 21, completely doubting that she had any talent at all. And then when she finally had the courage to put her music out there, what happened? Because we, well, I have seen her a couple of times recently and you've seen her four or five at least, I'd imagine.

But, yeah, because we saw her where she first did her, like, breakout gig and she spoke about how it was 20 years prior and how shy she was because she used to clean up the bar and when everyone was out of the room or upstairs she'd sing and then they'd come down and be like, what was that? And she's like, I don't know. I don't know who that was. I don't know nobody.

And you've interviewed her. Yeah. Which is a great – I was in the room at the time doing the tech stuff. That will be linked below. Thank you, Collings, who does all that. Yeah, for Just Make the Thing. Because it's a really terrific interview. And she's just a really lovely person.

Yeah, very warm. She's done a lot of things. She runs Big Hearted Business for creatives to teach them about business and she's a radio host on the ABC. She does a lot of things and her songs are so great. Her song Woman is amazing.

That's just come out recently. Her songs You Make Me Happy, You Look So Good, One Little River, On This Side, just so many. So if you don't know her, go find her music, go find her book. I do know her. You do. But I might read that book. But she's brilliant. She's also just so many. So if you don't know her, go find her music, go find her book. I do know her. You do.

But I might read that book. But she's brilliant. She's also just bloody funny. She's funny, yes. So funny. She said that, and I think this happens a lot, when you aren't typical, like looking, particularly as a girl, you have to find, or anyone, as a human, you have to find other ways, right?

Well, there's a character just like that in Dolomite, a female character as well who, again, I think you might like it. All right, I will do that. All right, so that's my first recommendation. Off you go, Jim Bob. For my recommendation, I recommend Claire's skinny little knees. What the freak is going on? We can wait for clean water solutions.

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I don't have skinny little knees. I have sexy legs, sexy long legs. Even if I did have skinny knees, it wouldn't matter because I am more than my appearance. That's true, but I recommend. Mate, unlike you. Thank you. I watched the appearance. That's true. But I recommend. Unlike you. Thank you. I watched the movie.

Greybeard. Stuba. Stuba. Stuba? It's Kumail Nanjiani. It's Dave Bautista. It's directed by Michael Dowse. It's one of the movies that Fox sold over to Disney when they got rid of everything.

They sold their movie division. And it tanked, like, hard. It cost $16 million and it made $32 million. But basically it's this buddy cop comedy that they don't really kind of make anymore because they don't do well, obviously, as a result of this. But do you know Kamau Nanjiani started as like a comedian and a podcaster and now he's in like Marvel movies and he's in,

what do you know him from? The Big Sick. Yes. He's a lead in The Big Sick. Oh, I love him. And he's also in something else hilarious. The one about Silicon Valley. Yeah, Silicon Valley.

So, yeah. He's so great in that. The Big Sick. Oh, my gosh. Is one of my favorites. Have we ever talked about that yet? I don't think so, no. It's such a good movie.

Everybody's seen The Big Sick. And it's a true story. It is. It's really the story of how he met his wife. And it's a crazy ass story. Ray Romano's in it. Correct. She went into a coma on their third date or something.

Emily B. Gordon. Yeah, they wrote it together. But Dave Bautista, who is Drax from Guardians of the Galaxy, is the great guy as well. Yes, yes, yes. So basically he plays a cop, like this super muscle-bound hero cop, but he's getting older so he wears these gloves. Muscle-bound?

He's so scrawny. Dave Bautista. Oh, no, sorry. Okay, yeah. No, Dave Bautista. Oh, no, sorry. Okay, yeah. No, Dave Bautista's enormous. Kamau Nanjiani is like a normal-sized human being. I thought you were talking about Kamau. No, no, no.

So, though he might be soon because he's in a new Marvel movie coming out. Oh, I love that when scrawny dudes. That was like Chris Pratt. All of them. They all do it. He's so sexy. He got so sexy so quickly. Yeah, I didn't find him as sexy in the most recent Guardians of the Galaxy.

Well, he did put on a little bit of weight for that intentionally for the role. So maybe that's why Claire, who's judging bodies now with your skinny little knees? I'm objectifying everybody. Anyway, he's a cop who's out for – I'm a skinny little gal. His glasses, because he's got bad vision, his glasses come off

in like a bust and it costs the life of his partner. So as a result result he gets laser surgery but then when he gets the laser the lasik but after getting it this he finds out using this big drug buses that's happening so he's blind and he has to go out and kind of solve this case that we can't really see the hand in front of his face so he he hires an uber who's stew hence the name stuber and he's forced to kind of drive him around to all these different action scenes and events where it's really bloody and it's not like you could definitely handle it, but it's like fun action and it's kind of low budget,

but it does really well for what it is. It also might just be one big ad for Uber, I suspect, because there's a lot of like Uber's pretty good because, look, you just use this app and it's a ride check. They got you. Yeah, it's mostly. They're not Stuba. Well, they are because they put money into this fucking movie.

How bad was that show we watched, Uber Driver on ABC? Oh, yeah. That wasn't a great one, was it? That was bad. I mean, I watched like 10 minutes of it. I shouldn't. No, I watched two episodes. Okay.

No good? No good. Oh, well, good. Sorry, whoever created that. Yeah. Well, you know, not everything's for everybody. Maybe it's for some people. Who knows?

Maybe it's for some. But look, it's not like a life-changing movie, but it's also some people who are in it who you might not necessarily see in, you know, normal movies because Kumail Nanjiani is kind of an unconventional kind of action hero in this kind of movie. But he's kind of been in some bombs lately, so I'm hoping that this kind of does well because he's in The New Men in Black, which is not good, and he's in this, which didn't do well

and stuff like that. But, yeah, it's just if you like kind of buddy cop kind of action movies, this is a pretty decent one. It's got some funny moments. What's next for you, skinny little maze? All right. I feel like I'm coming around to it. The thing that is happening that always happens with you is that you start

calling me something and I get really annoyed by it, and then over time it becomes affectionate and then I like it. And then it sometimes gets annoying again. Yeah, but now I'm starting to be like, yeah, do have skin a little bit. People will be able to chart the progression of this on the show, no doubt. It's all right, you old egg. I used to call you egg a lot.

That's true. What was next? Oh, yeah, I'm recommending another thing. That's you. Oops. Okay. All right, so I have a podcast to recommend to you, James. I'm ready.

I love podcasts. Okay, excellent. So I met these two incredible women in the toilet at AusPod, which is a conference I went to a little while back. Did you bail them up? I did. Were you like, hello, shake my hand after I've been to the toilet? I kind of did, but I didn't know they were Mandy and Kate

from Two Peas and a Podcast. I just like their backpacks. You just love making friends with people in the toilet. I do, but they were so lovely and they took me under their wing and we sat together because none of my friends were there yet. It was really nice. Anyway, then I found out they hosted this podcast that I had recommended on Chat 10 Looks 3, one of my favourite shows.

And then I had a listen to the show and, my goodness, it is hilarious and warm and also heartbreaking. They met because they both have twins with disabilities, different disabilities, and both of their twins are also premature, which is a whole other thing as well. Sure, absolutely, yeah. What they've really done though is create a community of women mostly, I think, and families who have kids of differing abilities

and have felt voiceless and alone. And so their podcast is uplifting and funny and frank, and also really honest about what it's like to be in their position and to go through what they've gone through. They give really great advice to medical professionals and people who are unsure, I guess, of what it would be like to walk in their shoes and kind of also giving advice about the things not to say. Because often people say things without even thinking. Like, for example, I just want a healthy baby.

You know that term? Yeah, right. And you hear that all the time. I'm sure I've said that too. But I hadn't realized the kind of connotations that has. So what you're saying is. Well, if I don't get a healthy baby. Yeah, exactly.

Or like, for want of a better word, inverted commas a normal baby yeah you know all of that kind of stuff is so hurtful and excluding i guess too and i think it's such an important podcast to listen to and it's the reason i love podcasts so much because people who wouldn't normally get a voice get a voice yes Yes. You know? And I was saying this to you yesterday. I feel like podcasts are becoming more like it's a big business and they've, you know, like everyone's making their moves and creating their own content and whatever. And I think it's important that stuff like this still remains and still gets kind of pushed out there.

And obviously it's still doing well regardless because everybody's talking about this podcast because it's so terrific. But this is the kind of stuff that I like other than like it's a murder mystery brought to you by some fucking – what do you buy? Hoover dishwashers or whatever the fuck, you know what I mean? They have a place too. Of course they do, yeah. But I agree what Mandy and Kate have done is create a community

and a place for people to come to to share their experiences. And what I love most and what I also love about Claire Bogich's book, it does the same thing. It says, here is the stuff that I'm going through that's really hard and difficult. Here is also some stuff to laugh at and find joy in. And maybe you might be going through something like that or something different, but still you're not alone, you know, because the human experience is so difficult in so many ways. And I think in our perfect Instagram world, sometimes people forget that and we don't see all the stuff that people are going through behind the scenes. And so I just think it's

life affirming. Someone spoke to me recently about it and said that they listen to it when they need reminding and grounding in what's actually important and what to not worry about. You know, sometimes they can forget about what really matters. And also they're just such bloody good friends. And isn't it nice to hear to people who actually like each other? Cause we don't. I wouldn't know such a thing. It's such a fine concept. Correct. Yeah. Anyway, so I would highly recommend going to listen to their show, Two Peas in a Podcast. Great. No, they're very nice as well as human beings. They are. So if you're like, well, they create this great thing, but in real life, they suck. It's not that. It's good on all fronts. No, no. And it's, yeah, it's just brilliant. So

thank you so much, Mandy and Kate, if you're listening for just bringing your podcast to the world. Yeah, definitely. Bloody great. Now, we're coming up on the Halloween season. We thought we were going to do a full spooky episode all the time for this week, but we didn't. But you had the really good idea of doing-

It was a good idea. It's a great idea. Your skinny little knees came trotting into the room to tell- Trit, trot, trit, trot. What was your idea? All right. So we were thinking we'd talk about horror movies, but we didn't know anything about them.

I don't like horror movies. I do, Claire. I know a lot about them. Well, not that much. Well, I don't really like horror movies. They're too scary for me. But what I thought would be cool would be to talk about a villain from your childhood in film or TV that just was terrifying,

like the most terrifying thing from your childhood. Or a book or a podcast. Yeah, whatever it is, especially this one, you know, that really terrified you. So what was yours? What terrified you as a kid? So, I mean, I was thinking like, you know, there's Darth Vader, there was Skeletor from that He-Man movie or whatever.

But the thing I remember really freaking me out was a show, it was a 1986 made forvision family film and failed pilot, which aired as the Disney Sunday movie called Mr. Boogity. And basically I watched the trailer for it and I'm like, this is the dumbest fucking thing I've ever seen in my life. But basically it's all American family moves into this house and it's haunted and upstairs or in the attic lives this guy called Mr. Boogity.

And I guess he's the boogeyman, but he looks kind of like the emperor from Star Wars and he shoots green lightning and he's all like, ah, ah, ah. And as a kid I'm like, this is the worst thing I've ever seen and I'm never going to sleep again. And at the end I remember they sucked up his cape with a vacuum cleaner and his powers disappeared or something. I don't remember. I didn't really watch it because I'm like, this is painful enough

just to watch this 30-second thing. Anyway, it's always stuck in my head is this thing that like just always freaked me out as a kid and just going back to it. Like it wasn't one of those things where I was like, oh, my God, I never want to go back to this thing. It was just like I don't even want to think about this thing ever again in my life. But thinking about a thing that like really kind of got under your skin.

Yeah, so it wasn't terrifying at all? No, it's the dumbest thing I've ever seen. It's awful. Isn't it weird? I wonder what it was about it. Did you have nightmares? Probably, yeah. I don't really remember.

It just really made you feel weird. Yeah. And gross. What about you? What was yours? Mine is so obscure. One was The Witches, which I watched way too young. It's the movie version of the book, Roald Dahl's book.

Yeah, it's such a great book. It's bloody terrifying. It's just like witches that eat children. Yeah. It's the movie version of the book, Roald Dahl's book. Yeah, it's such a great book. It's bloody terrifying. It's just like witches that eat children. It's quite terrifying. The movie, I watched it way too young. It gave me so many nightmares. But the one thing that has stuck in my head forever, and I don't know if you've seen Chitty Chitty Bang Bang.

I've seen Chitty Chitty. Chitty Chitty Bang Bang. It's not a good movie. With Dick Van Dyke. Look, it's all right. I loved it. I love there's a character called Truly Scrumptious. Truly Scrumptious.

Anyway, it's very lighthearted and fun and like rollicking. And then all of a sudden it takes the darkest turn that could ever take. So the characters all go in this magical car and visit this land with like a magical castle. And it all looks happy and wonderful and lovely. And then, James. I'm ready. The child catcher appears.

Yeah. And I wanted to show you a picture of him in case you didn't remember. Oh, yeah. Yeah. He just looks like a guy I could beat up. Oh, right. No, he's so creepy. No, I know.

As a kid. Because he had like a big nest or something or a big cage on his back. Yeah. So he's played by the late dancer Robert Heltman. And he's got this like weird big bulgly eyes and like a black hat and cape. But what was creepy about him, because I was quite a chubby kid, I love my lollies, he had like a cage that was decorated in lollies and he would skip down this really creepy way down the street pretending

to be all happy and lovely and giving out free lollies for the children. And the way he used to say children, it was like so creepy. And then the kids would like go into the cage to get the lollies for the children. And the way he used to say children, it was like so creepy. And then the kids would like go into the cage to get the lollies and then he would shut the doors. All the yummy lollies. And he was a sex criminal. Well, yeah, I think that was like weird because it was so, it's such a weird film it made.

It was like made what, in the 1950s I'm guessing? I would say 60s probably. 60s? Oh, 1968. And so it's just got this weird vibe of like a- And it doesn't really fit the rest of the movie. No, and he's a little bit, yeah, it's just gross. It was like that movie, did you ever see that movie Return to Oz?

It was from the 80s. They had like really spooky like puppeteers. They had the wheelies and stuff in it. Connected to The Wizard of Oz. Yeah, yeah. It's got that weird dark vibe about it. Anyway, all he's like, he suddenly turned into this horrible goblin man and like the kids get taken in there from in the cage.

They get taken underneath the castle away from their families and they're just made to work and mine. And so there's just all these children trapped under the castle. I can't remember. But they're all just like stuck under there. And so on the surface, this beautiful castle looks beautiful and there's all these lovely people and everyone's singing and underneath all the children are just trapped in the dark.

It's a real Harry Potter situation with those house owls. Oh, mate, it totally is. It was so frigging terrifying and I just used to have these terrible nightmares about the child catcher. Even thinking about it. Even now. I know you said you looked at yours and you were like, whatever. He's freaking me out.

You could beat that guy up. Yeah, probably. I do do a lot of weightlifting now. He could jam your skinny little knee into his stomach. I don't know, he had like this black stringy hair. Yeah, he's like an Oliver Twist kind of villain. Yeah, but creepier. You mentioned The Witches.

I thought you might be interested in this. They're actually remaking it. It's coming out next year. Oh, really? Robert Zemeckis who did Back to the Future, but he also did all those like Beowulf and The Polar Express, those movies that I hate with both fake people. Yeah, they're so bad.

This is a real one though, but Octavia Spencer in it. I assume she's the grandma, but Anne Hathaway is the Grand High Witch. I think that could be really interesting. She's great, Anne Hathaway. We talked about her last week. Yeah, she surprises you. She was so good in Les Mis too. That's true.

I really like that movie. I know a lot of people have reasons for not liking it. Russell Crowe, obviously. Oh, my God. But I think that movie is a really fair shot, and that guy's making Cats, which is coming out this year. Cats! That is one of the best trailers out there.

Oh, my goodness. What were they thinking? I cannot wait. You know what I can't wait to talk about and watch? The Little Women film that's coming out. Oh, yeah, that looks really good actually, yeah. It's had great results. And I love the jokes.

People are like, they don't look too bloody little to me. They look like regular-sized women. Anyway, I love that book. And also Judy, which I haven't got to see yet, but I really want to see it with Renée Zellweger. Very good. Well, we've got to bloody wrap this up. We've got to wrap it up.

Happy Halloween, everybody. Actually, I would be really interested to know what's the thing that spooked people as a little kid. Yeah. Like what's the thing that – Tweet us at Suggested Report. I liked spooky books when I was a kid as well. Or on Instagram if that's your preferred one. Sure.

Did you? I'll put a post up on Instagram. People can comment underneath. Yeah, absolutely. You love spooky books. Yeah, definitely. I loved Goosebumps by J.R. Stein. J.R. Tolkienstein.

No, R.L. Stein. R.L. J.R. Tolkienstein. No, R.L. Stein. R.L. J.R. Stein. I used to love that. And I also love murder mystery books, but don't like The Child Catcher. I understand. And you know what, really, you might not like child catching, but people may like leaving a review. If you had to choose between the two, this is the one we'd love you to do.

This is from McD-Duck. It's just on the bloody app. You just open up your podcast app, give it a bloody five stars if you would be so inclined. It says, wow, James just referenced Salaryman when he was talking about his love of Paul Rudd and I never thought I could love another man more than I love Paul Rudd, but James might give him a run for his Ant-Man money.

Also, Claire is cool too or whatever. So, look, I know that one's a little James heavy, I'm not going to lie. But anyway, I appreciate somebody who appreciates me appreciating Celery Man. I love that actually. I want to watch Celery Man and mate. Have you got a rec for us? I do.

I'm worried I've already read this one out. But anyway, I've already done that once to Maisie X. Sorry, Maisie, I read Jules twice. So we'll see. This is from Sean Fillart. Hello, Clara James. This is Sean writing from the Philippines. Big fan.

My Netflix queue has gotten longer ever since I started listening. I'm going to return the favour by making a suggestible to you. The Philippines movie scene is experiencing some kind of resurgence today. Oh, very good. In a way that movies of better quality are getting more and more mainstream attention. Some have even found their way to Netflix. My suggestible is a movie called Bybust.

It features nonstop action that all happens in one location, kind of like Dread or The Raid. mainstream attention. Some have even found their way to Netflix. My Suggestible is a movie called Bybust. It features nonstop action that all happens in one location, kind of like Dread or the Raid. I love Dread or the Raid. It also shows the interesting take to the very real drug problem in our country. Yeah, boo. It is available on Netflix. Wishing your pod all the best.

Well, that sounds like all killer, no filler. Correct. It does. We might have reviewed that twice, but that's all right. I don't remember hearing that one before. Cool. Excellent. Excellent. Anyway, Suggestible, right. I don't remember hearing that one before. Cool, excellent. Excellent.

Anyway, that's suggestible, all those things. It's suggestible. Ooh, spooky times. Don't have too much of a spooky time because if you do, you'll die. The boogie man will get you. The boogity man, Claire. The boogity man. Man, I'm sick of ghosts.

I'm sick of their shit. I don't like ghost movies because they're like, I'm moving this closet. Great, good for you. I'm sick of your shit. I don't like ghost movies because they're like, I'm moving this closet. Great. Good for you. I'm sick of your shit. If you can't wield a gun, I don't care. My skinny little knees are sick of your shit. All right.

I'm going to show that. Goodbye. Don't piss off the ghosts. Why? Are they going to rattle a cupboard? They'll come to get you. Get the fuck out of here, ghosts. Go back to where you came from, being alive.

Oh, you can't. There was a ghost. There was a ghost. There was a ghost. The ghost is real. What a way to end the show this podcast is part of the planet broadcasting network visit planetbroadcasting.com for more podcasts from our great mates i mean if you want it's up to you hi i'm jesse crickshank from the number one comedy podcast, Phone a Friend, which I strongly advise you listen to. You know what else I suggest you look into? Becoming a host on Airbnb.

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