Suggestible - Skullet Johansson

Episode Date: December 11, 2019

Suggestible things to watch, read and listen to hosted by James Clement @mrsundaymovies and Claire Tonti @clairetonti.Everyone PoopsMarriage StoryThe Marvelous Mrs. MaiselThe Movies That Made UsDolly Parton's AmericaCameron Dewhitt & Nara Demasson Love Old Time MusicMumThe Jolly Christmas PostmanFollow the show on Instagram and Twitter @suggestiblepod or visit www.planetbroadcasting.com. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Uber Teen Accounts. Invite your teen to join your Uber account today. Available in select locations. See app for details. All right. James just started this podcast by burping in my emails. It wasn't a real burp. It was a fake burp.

Yeah. Well, why is that any better? It was gross. Because you're a gross man. Hello. It was like that. It was the equivalent of that. It was not. It was much more gross man. Hello. It was like that. It was the equivalent of that. It was not.

It was much more gross than that. Okay, can I? I'm Claire. You're James. We're married. This is Suggestible Pod. We recommend you things. Just before I get to actually what the show is about, I need, I have a gripe that Burt

reminded me. I hate when you burp and then you go and like blow the burp at me. I hate that so much. That's not true. If anything, Claire is actually saying a thing that she does to me. I never do that. I'm a lady. I don't burp.

I just fart. No. Well, I do. Everybody does. Do you know there's a book that I used to read to the kids when I was teaching called Everybody Poops? Yeah, everyone knows that book. I love that.

Yeah. Yeah, son's really book. I love that. Yeah. Yeah, our son's really obsessed with all that kind of stuff. I know. Is he? Yeah, isn't he? I don't think so. All kids are. They think it's funny.

Oh, yeah. Well, it is funny. Yeah. It's objectively funny. I thought you meant like you caught him like staring you to the toilet or something. Though one of my friends did have a little boy who was scared of pooping because he didn't want to let go of his poops. He felt sad about it.

I'm just imagining Rose letting go of Jack at the end of Titanic. Yeah, she said he didn't like flushing. He was like really upset. And I could totally see a three-year-old being like that. That's strange. Didn't want to press a button. Too sad about it. Is that how you feel about your poops?

No, not at all. You say goodbye to them in a touching way. Get rid of them all. Every time. No, I don't grip them tightly and then let them go. And watch them slowly sink into the darkness. No. Just like Jack.

Speaking of letting things go, though, my first recommendation is for the moon. Let it go. Frozen 2 and Frozen 1. I just want to say, I'm not going to name any names. I had a lot of stealth, like, agreeances about Frozen 2. Did you really? A lot of people just made, like, just FYI, between me and you, you were right.

They wouldn't CC you in. I'm not going to name any names. Oh, what? Nobody said that. It was probably your brother. No. At his daughter's birthday, he agreed with you before he'd even watched the movie yeah because he knows i'm right because i have excellent taste well my brother and my sister both said they loved it so that's irrelevant to me their opinions mean nothing

oh my god anyway anyway so i'm going to recommend uh it's a new movie that came to netflix i think it's getting a limited cinema release or maybe maybe it already has. It's done a lot of festivals. A limited cinnamon? Yes. A limited sprinkle of cinnamon? Spinnerman. It's called Marriage Story. It's directed by Noah Balmbach. It stars Scarlett Johansson and Adam Driver.

People say I say like Scarlett. You do like Scarlett. Like Scarlett, mate. It's Scarlett. Is that something other countries say or do we just say it in Australia? No, we say it weirdly. I say it weirdly in particular. No, but like sculling, is that a thing that people do in other countries? Yeah, I think it is, yeah.

You know, scull your beer, mate. Yeah. Neck it down. Yeah, you might say neck. Remember neck nominate? Remember that thing? Necking is also like kissing on the neck. No.

Oh, is it something else? I think so. Is it? Yes, it is. Necking, yeah. Necking. Isn't it like giving a hickey? Necking is when two giraffes fight.

They fight with their necks. I don't know if you've ever seen it, but it's wild, man. Do you know the giraffe has the same amount of bones in its neck than the human body? Did you know that? Not the human body, the human neck. No, but does that mean that it can, what? Hang on, what?

So there's less bones. No, there's the same amount of bones in a giraffe's neck as in a human's neck. I'm assuming they're bigger bones. No, they're exactly the same size. It's mostly skin. And like wobbly flesh. And so they're very bendable. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

In my brain I just went, well, that makes sense. They can wrap around each other. That's why you'd battle with the necks of the giraffe. Yeah, you battle. Well, what else are you going to hit with? If you've got a neck that long, of course you're going to fight with it. I'd fight you with my neck. Oh, man.

Remember when I used to be obsessed with that giraffe kicking the line in that nature documentary? Oh, he went over and with it. I'd fight you with my neck. Oh, man. Remember when I used to be obsessed with that giraffe kicking the line in that nature documentary? Oh, he went over and over it. Where the lion goes up to tackle the giraffe and the giraffe just kicks the shit out of it. It's incredible. Anyway, I've got to talk about this movie. Okay.

It's Scarlett Johansson and Adam Driver. Basically the story is about it's a breakdown of a marriage and how it can maybe start or begin amicably with the best intentions and how it can kind of devolve once there's family involved and lawyers and moving locations and and uh careers and money and all of those kinds of things and it's that story it's that it's that narrative flow and it's just incredible it's probably one of the best movies that i've that i've seen this year for the performances alone it's also really heartbreaking it's not it's one of those ones where it's hard to watch because it feels very real.

I know. Well, that's why I haven't watched it because I love Adam Driver and Scarlett Johansson, that famous actress, actor. But I just, that terrifies me. That whole idea just terrifies me and so I couldn't watch it. Yeah. It's very good though. And I wouldn't say at the end you'll be like, oh, my God, what a downer

because it is depressing in parts but it doesn't end the soup. I mean, it's not like a great ending because it's about a couple. A divorce. Splitting up. But it's amazing. And like those two are just at the top of their game at the moment, both in terms of performances. I've never seen Adam Driver not on the top of his game.

He's great. He's terrific in everything. He's so good in Girls. He's probably my only, I really, as much as I know Girls is a really important TV show to watch in terms of cultural references, all these kinds of things, I just never really got into it. I mean, initially maybe. Initially I felt, yeah, the first season I got into,

but Adam Driver was one of my favourite parts of that show. Yeah, definitely. And he's one of the characters that you kind of, you're not supposed to like, but I guess kind of, and that's also a credit to the writing, the way that that character involves as well. Oh, Lena Dunham, amazing writing, all the things. Anyway, I have my problems with Lena Dunham.

All right, let's not go down that road. Yeah, but the other thing is there's also kind of divorce lawyers that make appearances in this and there's one of them is played by Alan Alda who's kind of this, you know, Alan Alda from MASH. Oh, I love Alan Alda from MASH. Yes, everyone knows the MASH theme song. He's great. He's still crushing it.

Isn't that called Suicide? Suicide is Painless. Yeah, the original song has lyrics and for the TV show they took it out. The other thing is Ray Liotta who you might know from Goodfellas and he's done other things but mostly whenever you see him in an interview. Is he a good fella? Not really because he's a mobster. It's not even a joke. I don't a mobster. It's not even a joke.

I don't even know why. It's not even a play on words. You just said. I'll repeat it. No. Is he a good fella? No. He's a mobster in the movie.

I thought that was very funny. It's also like the name of the movie. Like it's the point of the movie because it's kind of like. Let me repeat it again and see if you find it funny this time. Is he a good fella? I will leave this room. I'm trying to break him. And the other.

Sculler to Johansson's lawyer is Laura Dern. Oh, I love her. Who's in Big Little Lies and Jurassic Park. Two of my favorite things respectively. And she's great. And she's great and she's, like, really good. Is she as good as when she puts a glove on her hand and sticks it in the triceratops poo and diagnoses it? There is a scene just like that in this movie.

So it's at least equivalent. So she rifles through out of driver's poo. Pretty much, yeah, like metaphorically, yeah. The two leads are great and they play off each other really well and you see like that they still love each other and they had this like huge like full-blown argument at one point. Actually, I'll come back to that. But there's a scene between Laura Dern and Ray Liotta

where they're arguing for custody and settlement in court and it's amazing. It might be the best scene in the movie and it's just two lawyers and two great actors just really just going at each other and it's terrific. But it's kind of, there's been a lot of talk of like who's kind of right in this. Is it the Scarlett Johansson character?

Is it the Adam Driver character? And there's like debate online about who the movie is kind of skewed towards. And I think it's fairly even handed and it's really up to you about what you decide, like what you get out of it. I'm not going to say what I think of it. So there's not like a clear villain. I think there definitely could be if you can perceive it that way.

But I also think it kind of shifts as it goes and the outcome kind of determines like it might not be as good for one person as it is the other person. So I think it kind of ebbs and flows. You know, like any relationship, it's normally not just one person who's the problem. Sometimes it is, you know, for the most part, but often, you know, people. It's often much more complex. Yeah, and people break up.

It's just a reality, you know. Calm down, Claire. You're never going to break up with me. Don't even worry about it. Well, I have something to tell you. Oh, no, not on a podcast. I don't even like talking about it. But, yeah, look, it's really good. And I think something to tell you. Oh, no, not on a podcast. I don't even like talking about it. But, yeah, look, it's really good.

And I think you should watch it. I think you should watch it anyway. Okay. I should. I should. I should man up. No, woman up. Yeah, you should woman up.

I should. Maybe when you're feeling like not so, you know, when you feel like you're feeling good about yourself. Because if you go in like, I'm having a bit of a bloody rough day, it's not going to make you feel better. Okay. Excellent. Cool.

Yeah. And I'm also interested to know what you think about the characters and who you think is. Yeah. Because I'd love to get into it but I don't want to spoil it and I'd want to see what you think before I say anything. It's really interesting. I love seeing film and TV like that where the characters.

I love seeing TV and film too. I just love watching the old television. No, when characters are flawed and much closer to what you really see in real life. A little bit like when the State of the Union that we talked about, that BBC show about the marriage and they sit in the park. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I liked that for that reason too, that there's no sort of one side

or the other side. Yeah. Just like I think in most relationships obviously, like you said, there are sometimes some villains. But in general people are way more complex than that. Yes. And relationships are complex and, you know, people who are good people and generally I think people are good but they make mistakes

for whatever reason and they take into relationship stuff that happened in their family, in their childhood. Or even happens to them, you know, during. Yeah, during, exactly. So as you get older, I think when I was younger, I saw the world much more kind of black and white, I think. So you had that operation to restore your colour vision. Correct, exactly.

And now I can see in greyscale. Oh, my goodness. Ooh, even a multicolour. I see like the Nintendo Virtual Boy. There are four people who will get that joke and they're going to love it. All right, well, I don't get it at all. But I laughed because I love you. Thanks.

I don't want us to break up and have Laura Dern be our lawyer in divorce court. Yeah, and then they have to bring up the Nintendo Virtual Boy joke in court and I have to explain it. I mean, I think Big Little Lies is another great example of looking at relationships and marriage in that way. Yes. And there kind of is a Cleveland, but there's also not. And it's complicated.

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Oh, yeah. And it's currently on Amazon Prime. Yeah, and every night Claire watches 14 minutes of an episode then falls asleep. Yeah, I know, but then I catch up and watch the next 14 minutes. And I have no idea where I'm at because normally I'll watch the end of it while you're asleep and then the next day I don't even know. And then you're always like, Claire, wake up.

Go to bed. I'm not the only person that falls asleep on the couch. You are the only person in the world. Life is hard. I get up very early. Well, I also do for me. Yeah, at 9.30. The Marvelous Miss Maisel is an American period comedy drama created

by Amy Sherman Palladino, who also happened to create Gilmore Girls. I know, so cool. I didn't say anything when you said, I know, so cool. I didn't say anything. Well, I love Gilmore Girls. I'm sure there are other people that love it too.

I'm sure there are. It's a popular show. I'm agreeing with you. Do you know that your go-to tone is sarcasm? Those guys have too much junk food. Let's just get a pizza and stay in with the Gilmore Girls. I know, but it's part of the world, James. You don't understand.

Anyway, back to this particular show. Amy Sherman Palladino was inspired by childhood memories of her father, a stand-up comedian based in New York City, and an admiration for early female comics such as Joan Rivers and Totty Fields. The series stars Rachel Brosnahan, I might have said that wrong, who you may remember from Netflix's House of Cards. No.

Okay. Well, she's great in it. She plays Miriam Midge Maisel, a housewife in 1958, who discovers she has a knack for stand-up comedy. She lives on the Upper West Side and her life is perfect and she's got, you know, two children and she just, you know, tries to be this perfect housewife. She's Jewish, which is kind of the backdrop of she lives

above her family, her parents, who are also quite neurotic and interesting characters. Monk. One of them is a monk. Apparently so. And then her husband has an affair with her secretary. He wants to be a stand-up comic and he's pretty terrible, so she supports him the whole time and has a notebook

that she follows around to his gigs. And then he leaves her. She gets super drunk. She does some stand-up. Realise she has this amazing knack for it. And then Susie Myerson, who is an employee of the Gaslight Cafe, where she does this spectacular comedy stand-up routine, who's played by Alex Borstein.

Voice of Lois Griffin. Correct. Family guy. Exactly. Very cool. And also consequently played Suki St. James in the pilot of Gilmore Girls, but then ended up not playing the actual character Melissa McCarthy did. Oh, really?

Okay. Yeah, there you go. Anyway, side note. And so then Susie Meissen ends up being her kind of manager and helps her like develop this kind of comedy career. And it's just really fun. The sets are great. The clothes are amazing.

She's this really kind of sharp-witted, fast-talking woman who's really great at everything and is hilarious. And I liked the progression of the show, how they show she initially has this kind of like brilliant, brilliant kind of act and then goes through a period of trying to figure out how she can do it. She bombs a whole lot of times. So it starts to show just how difficult it is in that scene. And obviously, particularly as a woman, she faces a lot of kind of backlash from her family,

but also from other male comics because she's, you know, obviously quite unique being a woman back then. And it still is really quite a male-dominated field and industry. Yeah. So I just love it. I thought it was brilliant. There's two seasons with a third season being released very, very soon. I think it might even be. Yeah.

It might not be here. It's just been released actually, December 6, 2019. Yeah, and the support cast are great too. Her parents are excellent and their relationship is quite funny. Her dad in particular I really enjoy. He's kind of autistic and he's a lecturer and mathematician and just his character unfolds. He's quite great. It was interesting as well.

I agree with you on all of that. I think it does have some problems. For one, they never kind of explain where her kids are at any point in time and it's always in the back of my mind. I'm like, you've got a baby. Why didn't you ever look after your baby? They have a living nanny. And she does kind of woe is me and I'm like, you're fine.

You've got plenty of money. Oh, she's so wealthy. I know. But the other thing I think is they spend far too much time on her ex-husband, like still. It's like just get rid of this guy. Like write him out of the show. He's just not very interesting.

And they're like, what's this guy up to? Who cares? No, I actually disagree with you there. I think that Joel, her husband, and, you know, they separate. They have quite a complex relationship. I think initially it was interesting. Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, I agree. Sometimes I'm like, where's this going? He doesn't really have any talent. He was really threatened by her talent. And the reason I think it comes out that he had an affair was because he couldn't live up to her standard and he felt kind of intimidated by her in a way. And so. That's absolute lunacy.

Yeah, it is. I know. But you can kind of see things that happened in his childhood that kind of reflect why he is that way. But I also think it's kind of interesting to explore his character a little too. So yeah, I'm really enjoying it. I think also, unlike a lot of shows where the stand-up feels genuine, and a lot of the times, a lot of time when you see stand-up in like TV or movies, it feels false. And it's often because an actor is doing it and it's a different skill acting and stand-up are two different things. Oh, hugely different, yeah.

And some people can obviously do it but I think maybe because it's so well written and also her performance is so good. Oh, Brosnahan is brilliant in this. It's believable. She comes across as an actual genuine stand-up. But also because she does a lot of it off the cuff, it feels off the cuff, even though obviously it's written.

Yeah, it feels improvised. And, yeah, I totally agree with you. Anytime I've seen stand-up, often it's got canned laughter in the background and the actor sort of says these jokes but they don't set up very well, whereas she really kind of develops a sense of the room and you get a feeling like the audience is with her, her jokes are very clever and you want to watch her stand up. Yeah, exactly.

I actually am enjoying the show a little bit less when they sort of move away from seeing her stand up all the time and they move to kind of the backstory. She goes on holidays. Exactly. That's the stuff I'm kind of like, look, her ex-husband is bowling. I don't care. Who cares?

Yeah, I know. Was he ever going to find a partner? I don't give a shit. I don't care. Who cares? Yeah, I know. Was he ever going to find a partner? I don't give a shit. I don't care if she doesn't either. I think the focus of the show is like Is it? Well, I guess maybe they had to do something because they can't just keep showing her stand up. They should just shoot him.

They should just have her shoot him. Anyway, I really think though that Alex Borstein, who was obviously a Lewis Griffin family guy, I think she, her character is my other favourite. She's a standout in this. Yeah, definitely. Her lights are hilarious. The way that she delivers things so dryly.

Her character also is really hard done by. She has a really difficult childhood, very little money, scraping by. And so I think her character arc, you really want Rachel's character, Mrs Maisel, to win for her but actually more for Susie because you can see she really believes in her and is giving everything over to it. And I think her character in particular, you kind of get the feeling maybe she's the lesbian but it's never suggested. It's kind of hinted at.

It's hinted at but you never really know. There's a great recurring gag where she's carrying a plunger around looking busy, which is what I used to do at one of my jobs. I used to carry a clipboard. People would be like, what are you up to? I've got a clipboard. Don't you worry what I'm up to. Very, very busy. Thank you. Yeah. Anyway, I recommend this. They've won lots of Emmys and Grammys and, well not Grammys. It's popular. I'm sure. No, I'm sure they have. A Golden Globe. Yeah. And Rosanna Hahn won an Emmy and a Golden Globe for Best Actress in a comedy series for this.

So it's just great. I recommend it. Go find it. I will. Okay, off to your turn now. I've also got a Netflix show this week. I was like, what am I going to talk about? Then I realised I'd written this down already.

I remember a few weeks ago I spoke about a series called The Toys That Made Us and it basically talks about toys from our childhood and whatever and how they came to be. Yes, but you're really into lego at the moment oh my goodness i want to post some of my lego pictures people are gonna shit you had a dream about how to fix your optimus prime my optimus prime is looking incredible and i just want to say that i've made the optimus prime from memory i haven't used any any of this kit shit which i'm not a fan of lego is good when it's in a big box and you can rifle through it like what we have yeah i hate instructions did you see i made olaf elsa and i have not

oh we should go up there how about we post them all online as comparison all right okay but still i was pretty proud of my frozen characters anyways spend the reindeer mate that's good thanks they're great in Frozen 1 only, exclusively. There's a series which is a spin-off of that called The Movies That Made Us, and it's basically a deep dive behind classic movies and the road to kind of getting them made. There's been four episodes so far. They normally do them in blocks of four, these series, so there'll probably be another four later this year.

But some of the movies included is Die Hard and Home Alone, and it's basically, so they're more recent they're more like 80s kind of i think the first era is yeah they're all 80s from the first season but most classic movies have like very troubled productions and interesting stories behind them or even any movie whether it be good or bad have troubled productions it's not unusual because movie making is like is problem solving essentially it talks about our home alone was shut down at one point and another company picked it up like they're going to get into like the original ghostbusters cast and at one point like eddie murphy was going to be in it and kind of how that shifted and they didn't know whether bill murray was going to be in it or not and they'd

kind of sign him on but they didn't know anything from him and then when they started shooting he turned up and they're like oh good classic bill now i can see you thinking though who cares and i'm like any of these movies claire and who cares cares, right? That's how I feel about a lot of people. But they do have an episode on Dirty Dancing. Ooh. Nobody puts baby in the corner. Well, no. Nobody does.

No, nobody does, it turns out. Side note, Ghost is also on one of those Netflix, I think, at the moment. Side note, have you seen Dirty Dancing 2, Havana Nights, from the early to mid-2000s? I have. It's not good. Yeah. I've never seen Dirty Dancing, actually.

Oh, what? Dirty Dancing is a classic Patrick Swayze. Seems a bit rude. He's so sexy. If I want a classic Patrick Swayze movie, I will watch Roadhouse, Claire. Okay, you've shown me Roadhouse. Doesn't it end with him losing limbs by a lake or something? No, he rips out a dude's throat.

Oh, that's right. By a lake, yeah. That's right. It's very true. People love it. It's not that good. It's more ridiculous than good. Yeah, so that's it. I don't lake, yeah. That's right. It's very true. People love it. It's not that good. It's more ridiculous than good. Yeah, so that's it.

I don't have anything else to say. Okay, cool. If you like Dirty Dancing, you might. Also, you like Home Alone, right? I love Home Alone. The making of it's really – Classic Christmas movie. The making of it's really interesting.

Okay. Because I watched that a few years back with my class. I'm like, is this good? Yeah. It's incredible. It's still really good. Okay. I've been meaning to watch it. I'm like, is this good? Yeah. It's incredible. It's still really good. Okay. I've been meaning to watch it because I'm trying to get into my Christmas movies.

So I will give that a go. That one was really fun. Okay. Can I talk about my thing now? I'm really excited. Finally. So I want to recommend a podcast this week. I love podcasts.

Yeah. I actually, I don't know. You would be interested. I don't. You won't listen to this. Anyway, it's called Dolly Parton's America. Have you heard about this one? You really talked yourself out of that. Yeah. No, i've heard you listening to it as well yeah wnyc

studios produces it so it's public radio and it's just brilliant it's awesome and it just made me realize how iconic i mean i've always thought of dolly parton as like you know a great country singer but always on my periphery yeah i never really understood how much of a feminist icon she is and what an incredible songwriter she is. Her back catalogue is just amazing. Just so prolific. Someone said that she's like the Mozart of country music, which I think is really interesting. Helen Morales, who helps inform this show, wrote a book called Pilgrimage to Dollywood. And she really gives a stern directive about how to get into Dolly Parton and the heart of what she's all about by looking at the lyrics.

So the show starts by deep diving into her discography, starting with the early period of what Dolly calls her sad ass songs, to find remarkably prescient words of female pain, slut shaming, domestic violence, and women locked away in asylums by cheating husbands. The show explores how Dolly took the centuries-old tradition of Appalachian murder ballad, so the Appalachian murder ballad and just Appalachian music in general, which is music of the south, I guess, country music. And I guess sometimes even it's called hillbilly music.

That's rude, Claire. It has its roots in bluegrass, but even further than that, it's just, oh, gosh. I actually interviewed a banjo player on Just Make the Thing. Yeah, I remember, yeah. And he talks a lot about if you're more interested in that kind of history of Appalachian music, it's really interesting. He also plays some cool stuff. Do you think Collings could link it below?

Yeah, I think he probably could. Well done, Collings. Good job, Collings. You're the best. Anyway, so she did things like she took that century-old tradition of the murder ballad and flipped it on its head. So men were singing songs about brutally killing women basically. It was a really popular thing.

What? Yeah, it was. Back in the day they would often be at hangings, right? The community would come out and like a guy would write a song about the guy murdering his partner or girlfriend or whatever and then he would hand out the lyrics, yeah, at the hangings of these murderers. Anyway.

So as you're being murdered, you're like, this song's about me. Yeah, sort of, no. Anyway, Dolly did a really clever thing. She flipped the script and sung it from the woman's point of view. As her career progresses, the songs expand beyond the pain to tell tales of leaving abuse behind and then move into sort of second and third wave feminism. Her songs also just speak to everybody and that's why it's called

Dolly Parton's America. I didn't realise this but her songs speak to people across the political divide from left to right young to old you know she was popular in the indigenous community where we were remember yeah yeah i know tubby who i lived with was this amazing indigenous australian woman and just hilarious and when i was leaving she gave me this big hug and gave me a cassette of dolly parton songs yeah because she just loved it and also the woman who we got our dog from also loved dolly parton and in a different community yeah in a totally different community there's something they because she just loved it. And also the woman who we got our dog from also loved Dolly Parton, remember? Yeah, she did, Natasha.

And in a different community. Yeah, in a totally different community. There's something they talk about Dolly's songs because she grew up in sort of, they call it Smoky Mountain basically in Tennessee. She lived in this really kind of rural, quite isolated, really tiny place, really tiny house, two-bedroom cottage in the mountains. Yes. And so her songs actually speak to migrants, I think,

people who've had to leave their home, to Indigenous communities, to women and men from all walks of life. And she's done this incredible thing in such a divided time. She's managed to walk the line between both. Without feeling like she's ignoring things yeah exactly and so even though you know when you first think of her people would laugh and dismiss her because you know the big boobs and the big hair and the big makeup she says this really clever thing i think she's so smart she said that she's having an ongoing joke with the the audience and then she's been having for, you know, like 40 years.

Yeah. And I think she said she really understands women but she also really understands men and I think that's very true and apparent in her songs. The podcast really just deep dives into that but it also looks more at the politics of America at the moment and the sort of divide between people down kind of all kinds of ideological lines. I'm sorry, go on.

I was going to say, would you say that even if you weren't a fan, this is worth listening to? Oh, totally. It's so interesting. You really understand. I mean, I think sometimes, I don't know if I ever really put Dolly Parton in the same kind of category as like Elton John or someone who was like one of the greatest songwriters of all time.

Sure. And then you listen to this podcast and you go, she absolutely deserves a place there. I mean, she wrote I Will Always Love You, you know, that iconic Whitney Houston song. Really? I didn't know. Yeah, and there's this incredible story.

And she outlived her. Yeah, she did. There you go. You know, I mean, that's one of the greatest songs of all time, really. Just spectacular writing, spectacular writing. And, you know, Jolene, amazing, amazing song. Do you know that Nelson Mandela loved the song Jolene? Everybody knows that.

Dolly Parton's really popular in South Africa. Just, you know, crosses all kinds of lines. Just look up Dolly Parton net worth. Yeah, I mean, yeah, she's worth millions of dollars. The other billions probably. She also has a theme park. 500 million. Yeah, there you go.

Yeah, makes sense. You know, I just think, and she's still prolific. She's still out there. And I just think once I listened to this, I really thought, wow, I think sometimes women are dismissed for all kinds of reasons. Yeah. Even in my own head, I didn't realise that I dismissed her. Yeah, absolutely.

And I love her music. I've been deep diving. She also has a really strong affiliation with the LGBTQI community and she has a beautiful song, Wildflowers, I think it's called, that is sort of talking about finding yourself and leaving your home and setting yourself free. And there's this gorgeous guy who talks about how he grew up in a really hardcore Christian household and he just had

to leave his family to become who he was. He identified as gay. And so he just played that song over and over and over, driving away from his tiny hometown in the south. And I could cry. Anyway, she's amazing. Go check it out, Dolly Parton's America. I will.

And look, if you love things, like say, for example, you love a podcast that you're listening to right now, save it for after the show, all right, what you can do, you can actually rate and review this podcast right in app, if you've got on your iTunes app or whatever, just like this person has written. This is Jonathan Berko. He says, the perfect view on parenting this show is a blessing i am especially grateful for their view on parenting finally someone who lays it out as it is this show and this podcast network is a must listen much appreciated we do tell it how it is

that's how bloody hardcore we are that's how we are cool and also don't listen to our views on parenting do whatever you think is right. Sorry, go on. Correct. Do what's in your heart. That's right. Listen to your heart. Okay. So you can also send us recommendations.

We love to hear them. We do. At SuggestiblePod on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook. You can also email the show at contactatplanetrecasting.com. I check that email address regularly. And this one is a review slash recommendation. Oh, my goodness. I know. five stars.

It's from Noel Mellor. The podcast that saved Christmas and birthdays. I told you I'd slip a Christmas recommendation into every week. How dare you. Been a long time fan of James and Claire's other podcasts, so checking out their first full on collaboration was a no brainer for me. Other podcast? Yeah, I know. But what

I wasn't expecting was it becoming such an important tool for my marriage. Holy dooly. You see, my wife, like Claire, is also a woman-type person and as luck would have it, has a very similar taste in books, podcast people and just making things. She sounds top. She's also named Claire.

Well, she's my person. So as well as the pleasure I take. It just sounds like you're having an affair and complimenting yourself. That's what it sounds like. Yeah, that's what it's all about, mate. A marriage story. Sure. So as well as the pleasure I take in hearing these two affable,

charming married podcasters bounce off one another. Oh, stop it, Noel. I also listen with my Amazon app open to add gift ideas for Christmas. Great. Or just earn brownie points by passing on some of Claire's suggestibles. It's a win-win, mate. So if you're out there and you have a wifey, have a wifey, oh, Lord, or a partner, yeah, exactly.

Or a horse. Some recommendations for books and recipe books and all kinds of things. Definitely. Anyway, here's a suggestible for you. There's a British BBC comedy called Mum, which is just perfect, and I think you would both get something out of. It stars Leslie Manville as a woman getting over the death of her husband through the oddball family she has around her.

As well as being very funny with insanely likable characters, it has a really warm and touching love story at its heart that comes together slowly across its two short episodes. We'd love to hear what you think. Thanks, Noel. Thanks, Noel. Oh, what a legend. Hey, and also, side note, here's a recommendation for a Christmas book to read to your children. Alright, wrap it up, Claire.

It's called The Jolly Christmas Postman by Janet and Alan Alberg, and it's super cute. Okay. Yep, it's Santa writes letters to all the different fairy characters and the postman has to deliver them. Side note, they also have like little letters that you actually envelopes, you open up and there's a little letter inside. It's my favorite Christmas book when I was a kid.

You should get some fucking email, I'll tell you that much. Instead of making people deliver this mail. Okay. I'm not even going to call you the G word because I've overused it. Great. Bloody Grinch of Christmas. Okay. So we have been to Gestable Pod.

Yes. I just wanted to finish with something else. I know we've sort of been laughing and we've had quite a fun old time. We've all had a good time here at suggestablepod.com. We have. I just wanted to reach out and talk to someone called Ralstad Jones who wrote to us at the Planet Broadcasting Great Mates Facebook group who's going through a really hard time.

And I'll just read his comment and then I'll have a little talk about it. Please. Hi, mate. Sorry to bring down the mood, but I'm absolutely gutted as my gorgeous wife who I've been with for 23 years passed away last night after battling cancer for only 15 months. She was 43 and the best person ever. I wrote to the boys about this and how the Weekly Planet

and this great community has helped me and the kids deal with the struggle, which they kindly read out on episode 274. Yeah. Even though she was not that geeky herself, she put up with and sometimes even encouraged my relentless comic book movie and TV show Fixation and even joined me in dressing up. There's some great photos there as well that he's posted. Oh, I know.

I know exactly how she felt as well. Mate, I've done all kinds of things. Remember that Catwoman costume I did? That was, I want to clarify, your idea for the surprise party you threw for me that I did not want. These are not applicable scenarios. Because I love you. Also, I just put up with you building Lego Optimus Prime all the time.

With? I'm parenting. Anyway, sorry, go on. Anyway, so she put up with my relentless comic book movie and TV show Fixation and joined me up in Dressing Up. She's also quite, like, suggestible and unsurprisingly identified a lot with Claire, while James is more my jam. That's cool, Rylstar.

I totally get it. I love and miss you, Natasha, and thanks, Nick Mason a lot with Claire, while James is more my jam. That's cool, Rylestar. I totally get it. I love and miss you, Natasha, and thanks, Nick Mason, James, Claire, and everyone at Planet Broadcasting and this wonderful group. Mate, I am so sorry. I can't even imagine. It's just one of those things. There's nothing you can kind of say to be like, hey, that sucks. Like it's just the worst thing that could happen.

I know. And I just want to say that Natasha sounds like an incredible person. Yeah. And I'm just so sorry for what you're going through. And thank you so much for everyone in the Great Mates group who's been supporting you. It's a really supportive thread. And the family.

And all our thoughts and prayers go out to you. This Christmas will suck. Yes. I'm so sorry. Yeah. But hopefully you and the kids can still get presents and have a yummy lunch and do all those things. But, yeah, from our hearts to yours, let's make any sense.

I'm just rambling. We're heartbroken for you, mate. Yeah. So we'll be thinking of you this Christmas and all the love in the world. Melbourne guys, wow. Yeah, I know. Not that that changes anything, obviously. We would only feel so sad if they were from Melbourne.

Correct, yeah. Because they're in our hood. That's right. All right. Thanks for asking, Jones. Absolutely terrible. Yeah, and if you're out there going through something hard, because Christmas can sometimes, like as much as I love Christmas, Christmas can sometimes be a really hard time for people. Absolutely it can, so. Absolutely terrible. Yeah, and if you're out there going through something hard, because Christmas can sometimes, like as much as I love Christmas,

Christmas can sometimes be a really hard time for people. Absolutely it can, yeah. This time of year for lots and lots of different reasons. Reach out to friends and family, even if you hate them. You don't have to. Yeah. Maybe you want to, but maybe you don't. Maybe.

That's okay. And you know what else I reckon? I sometimes think we talk about friendship circles, right, and family circles. I like to think of them as horseshoes. This is from, I know, don't look at me like that. I know I'm being corny, but just think about people in your life and think about if there's anyone out there who you think might be lonely at Christmas and invite them over for your Christmas dinner.

Absolutely. Think about them as in horseshoes, as in you hammer them into the bottom of a horse's foot. Think about them as in horseshoes, as in you hammer them into the bottom of a horse's foot. Think about them like that. No, I just mean, you know, we don't have to have our closed circles of friends. No, exactly. You know, we can welcome more people in. So look after each other, guys, at this time of year, and we'll be thinking of everybody.

That's right. Especially Rasta and his family. That's right. Okay, that's the end of the show. Thanks for listening. We'll be back at another episode next week probably, and then we'll take a break at some point. I don't know.

We will. We will. Thanks, as always, to the Raw Collings for editing this week's episode. What a legend. He is. All right. Okay. I'm pressing the button.

No, I'm reaching over to press it today. It's my turn. I'm already going to press it. I've already pressed it. Your tiny arms can't reach it. This podcast is part of the Planet Broadcasting Network. Visit planetbroadcasting.com for more podcasts from our great mates. I mean, if you want.

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