Suggestible - Squid Game, Midnight Mass, Recipes with Friends

Episode Date: September 30, 2021

Suggestible things to watch, read and listen to. Hosted by James Clement @mrsundaymovies and Claire Tonti @clairetonti.This week’s Suggestibles with Midnight Mass spoilers at 24:30 to 31:30:All About YvesTonts podcast with Yves ReesSquid GameHating Alison AshleyLooking for AlibrandiFat ChanceRecipes with Friends by Alice OehrMidnight Mass (spoilers 24:30 to 31:30)Send your recommendations to [e-mail], we’d love to hear them.You can also follow the show on Instagram, Twitter, Facebook @suggestiblepod and join our ‘Planet Broadcasting Great Mates OFFICIAL’ Facebook Group. So many things. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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I'm all right. How are you? Why do you always end up cracking up in a new beverage every time we start a podcast? It's a ritual. And what are our lives if nothing but a series of repetitive rituals until we die? Yeah. I did have a big dessert though, so I'm like, oh, my guts. Oh, no. Can I have a drink of your drink?

No. Oh, it looks delicious. Do you want some? Yes, I do. Thank you very much. Things is what Claire does. She'll open a drink and then drink a third of it and then go, I think I'm just going to leave this somewhere in the house,

somewhere secret. I'm sorry I don't just open my throat and pour a drink down. Okay, so James has the ability to drink a drink literally in 10 seconds flat. He drinks it like someone is about to steal it immediately. Like just happened. Yeah. Yeah, true. No, but I mean really, you will drink a can of kombucha

in less than 10 seconds and it kind of blows my mind. I watch you and other people say that you do this with dessert as well. Yeah. Really fancy desserts and that's why I hate sharing dessert with you, even though I only want a couple of spoonfuls. But I want to eat it slowly and savour it. And instead you're just eating it away like you're a horse at a trough. It's going to disappear regardless, Claire.

Let's just bloody get on with it. Speaking of getting on with it, this is suggestible, the show where we're like, hey, listen to us talk about this thing that we watched, read or listened or whatever. Correct. And we're occasionally eight. Occasionally eight. Yes, I'm Claire Jane Cyril, so we are married

and it's our favourite time of the week. Suggestible. Is it? Oh, it's my favourite time. Wow. This is awkward. You live a terrible existence. Yeah, currently stuck in this house with you.

For anyone who's listening for the very first time, we're stuck in Melbourne lockdown. And actually we've surpassed all the other places in the world. We are now living currently in the longest lockdown. Yay! Hopefully only for a few more weeks though.

Hopefully. I don't know. I don't know anymore. It's good because I have to see The Eternals in cinemas, Claire, in early November. Oh, I see. I don't know. I don't know anymore. It's good because I have to see The Eternals in cinemas, Claire, in early November. Oh, I see. I already missed the last Marvel movie. I can't miss the next one. I know.

Gosh, I think your brain will explode. Still haven't seen it. Anyway, do you want to go first or would you like me to go first? I would love to go first. Let's do it. Excellent. All right. So my first recommendation is a memoir and also an episode

of my podcast, Tonks. Oh, typical. Which is very narcissistic. However, I think it's worth it. So the memoir is called All About Eve and it's written by Dr. Eve Rees. Now they are a historian with La Trobe University and they also are a podcaster and a writer of many important academic texts and lecturer too as well, and a novelist, well, a memoirist. Sure. So Eve has only recently released this memoir and it tracks their journey to realising their transgender identity,

which I find so interesting. Also Eve's just so raw and open and honest about it. The memoir is peppered with stories from history of trans people and particularly transmasculine people. Right, right. It looks at Indigenous cultures and their approach to trans and gender and identity. Because there is like seems to be more of an understanding

in a lot of Indigenous cultures or there has been in the past. Yeah, that's what Eve was talking about, that there has been, yeah, and there have been words in Indigenous languages that weren't really present in English language and it is thought that potentially colonisation actually caused a lot of the transphobia and this kind of idea that there are only the two genders, male and female. They talk about pronouns as well and coming to find your pronoun and what it meant for them to see Elliot Page come out as well.

Yeah, right. Which I thought was really interesting. Anyway, it was an amazing chat and also because I think some of this stuff for people who've never had to kind of explore their gender or sexuality before because it kind of fits into that heteronormative stuff. It's just kind of. It's the mainstream, I guess, or they've just never really gone deeply into themselves in that way.

I think this book is so helpful for that because it has kind of peppered in it a lot of education as well as really personal stories. So anyway, it's called All About Eve, and I also interview Eve this week on Tantra Drop Today. Terrific. Yay. So that's a recommendation from me. Please check it out if you can. I do. I've got that lined up in my podcast feed, ready to go. Thanks, mate. I will be giving that. I won't be reading the book because books are for nerds, but I will be checking that particular thing out. Cool. Because you do a great podcast. And here's something that I teased that I was going to watch. Give me some more of your drink scripts.

Also, everything's linked below that we talk about. I've got a couple of Netflix shows I want to talk about this week. I'm going to start with Squid Game, which is a South Korean nine episode televisual series written and directed by Hwang Dong Hyuk. And it stars Lee Jung Jae, Park Hae Soo, and Wee Ha June. Apologies for my Australian pronunciation of things. So basically what it is, 456 people choose, sorry, who are all struggling financially one way or another, mountains of debt, you know, because they're investment bankers or, you know, they're on, you know're more of a lower rung on society but the debt that they have is obviously equally crippling for them

as it would be somebody who's, you know what I'm talking about, debt, right? They're invited to- He doesn't know what he's talking about. Just heads up. I don't know. I do all the finances. I don't know what I'm talking about when I'm saying that people listening know what I'm talking about.

So they're invited to play in a mysterious survival competition competing in a series of traditional children's games, but with deadly twists, they risk their lives for what is the equivalent of 38 million US dollars, right? So have you ever seen like the Hunger Games? Have you ever seen Battle Royale? Have you ever seen like the Game of Marbles when you're a child, something like that. It's basically all these competitors go in, there's a series of games happen, but each one is actually like deadly. Like it kills like dozens of people each time around. And each time someone is eliminated, more money pours into like the pool

of money, right, until there is only, you know, a few people left surviving at the very end. And the whole idea is it's basically for the rich to observe and go, oh, look at all this, look at these crazy games, and they bet on it and whatever. You know, it's about the class system and et cetera and so forth. It looks horrifying. Oh, it's horrifying, yeah.

But at the same time, it's very camp and over the top, like a lot of the time. It's very, very violent. Like it's time, it's very camp and over the top. Like a lot of the time, it's very, very violent. Like it's uplifting in moments because it shows you like the best of the human spirit and that. It's also very depressing at other times because ultimately, you know, a lot of the people that you are following just kind of get whittled away as it goes and you see people who end up helping each other and people end up turning on each other and, you know,

and it's also like there's a moment where there's where you where they realize that if anybody dies at any point while they're staying in this facility that counts towards the tally so it's like do they all start murdering each other and and and things like that so it's terrific it's also got our english dubs if you are if you but it also is obviously in Korean also and you can watch it subtitled. Or if you speak Korean, I loved it. I thought it was really compelling and just kind of edge of your seat and you do get that sense of

anxiety when the next game is coming and when they walk into the game, you also, as the viewer, don't know what it is. So you find out at the same time as them. And as this is unfolding, like you're following your main people in the game and there's also a police officer who's trying to work his way on the inside and kind of figure out like what is going on, like who are these people,

how this is happening, how long it's been happening for, and everybody's masked up so you don't really know kind of what's going on or who was behind it the entire time. I loved it. It's terrific. It's so grim and violent, but it's not like, it's more like riddled with bullets like blood splatter than like watching people get like beheaded and things like that. Cool, I'm really enjoying this conversation.

Yeah, just so you know. It's about the class system, Claire. So it's kind of like a hunger game. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, it reminds me of another book that I've read, and I think it was by Robin Klein when I was a kid. I was really into those kind of teen books where they talked about dystopian futures.

Yeah. But there was one where these kids were kind of adopted or taken. It's that alien planet thing you're talking about? Yeah, I talked about this before. Multiple times. Oh, okay. I've very little memory left in my brain. Anyway, so have I told you this on the show before?

Maybe. It doesn't matter. Not everybody hears everything. And they're forced to do all these acrobatics, and you think that they're on an alien planet. They kind of get, like, kidnapped and taken away. Yeah. And it turns out they're just, like,

really rich people who just want to watch people with kids particularly do death defying acts. Is it called The Enemies? Maybe. Is it called Halfway Across the Galaxy and Turn Left? No. Is it called Hating Alison Ashley? No. I have read Hating Alison Ashley actually.

Have you read Hating Alison Ashley? I have. I love that. I did a monologue from Hating Alison Ashley for a drama club that I used to belong to when I was 13. That's very typical of you. And I was great at it. I bet you were. Did you enjoy the Delta Goodrum movie from maybe 2003,

whenever it came out? No, I didn't watch it because I read that book cover to cover. I've read it multiple times. I did as well, yeah. Hating Alice and Ashley? Yeah. Have you really? I've read it, yeah.

I've read it a number of times. How come you liked it and Ashley? Yeah. Have you really? I've read it, yeah, I've read it a heap of times. How come you liked it so much? I think it was one of those books that was recommended, like that you had to read in primary school. Oh, okay. Because it's also about a kid in grade six, which is probably when I read it or whatever. And it's also about friendship.

And it's about the class divide and it's about Delta Goodrum. But the problem with the movie I saw was they bump it up to high school and the book is set in primary school. In primary school, yeah. And it has to be in that it's in a very specific time period in grade six. It's too innocent for high school. Yeah. It sort of walks that line.

And I loved it because it talks about kind of weight and body issues as well as a kid. And I really had a lot of issues with that. And she's from a family that she kind of hates. Yeah, and she looks perfect on the outside but it turns out. Maybe she's got her own something, something. Yeah, it's a beautiful, if you've got kids who are 11 and 12, probably from about nine, right?

Yeah, I would say so, yeah. I would say it's a really, it's just a gorgeous book. It's a 2005 movie, yeah. Another book that I loved and I don't know if it holds up is called Fat Chance and that is an amazing book too, like a tween book all about coming to terms with who you are and loving yourself in your own skin and all of those kinds of things where when you're a tween, that's real hard stuff.

Is it Fat Chance Beating the Odds Against Sugar Processed Food and something, something? No, it's a novel. No, it's a novel. It's called Fat Chance and now I can't remember the author. Is it Fat Chance, The Hidden Truth About Sugar, Obesity and Obesity? No, it's a tween novel. Good God.

It's kind of like Hayden Allison, actually. Is it Fat Chance, The Bitter Truth About Sugar? Can you stop saying that? There's a lot of books called Fat Chance is what I'm saying. Okay, well, no. Is it Fat Chance Cookbook? Can you just, did you type in novel? God, you're so freaking annoying sometimes.

I would argue that I'm the best person who ever lived. Yeah, there it is. It's by Newman, someone? No, it's by Leslie Newman. Leslie Newman. Yes, correct, exactly. Leslie Newman. I would have won the Parents' Choice Silver Medal in 1994

and I was awarded the finalist in the Iowa Teen Award in 1997. Yeah, and I have no idea if it still holds up, but it was definitely about English. I'm sure it's a big problem and people are like, you'd never bloody get away with that now too. Yeah, there's probably some problematic things in it, but it really spoke to me at the time and I really enjoyed it. Great. Great, and looking for a little brandy

as well. Oh yeah, of course. Squid Game, though. Check it out. Alright. If you like Grimm. Can I handle it of course. Squid Game, though. Check it out. All right. If you like Grimm. Can I handle it? I feel like I couldn't. No, you couldn't. No, I don't think I could.

I couldn't even handle that one that was, was it a Korean movie about, Tilda Swinton? Is that her name? Oh, you're talking about. What's that one? You're talking about Snowpiercer. No, not Snowpiercer. Oh, Okja.

Okja, Okja. Same director. Yes. Yeah, yeah. It reminded, not Snowpiercer. Okja. Same director. Yes, yeah, yeah. It reminded, it looked, that's interesting. Yeah, it's got that vibe. It had that same vibe. Maybe that's like a South Korean thing. Yeah, it's kind of like a, it has kind of social commentary within it

and it's kind of surreal. He did the one in the house and the servants and whatever. Oh, that won a million awards. Yeah, it was really good. That you picked to be like really excellent. I did. Well, it was already when I picked it, I mean a bunch of people like, this is really good.

And then I saw it and said, this is actually really good actually. What was that movie? Some people are upset that it beat The Joker for best movie or whatever. What movie was it? Parasite. Parasite. There we go. We got there.

All right. Can we leave the world of surrealism and tween novels? I'm going to bring you back to the grimmest thing you've ever heard in your life. This is a grim week for me. All right, but it's my turn first. I know. So you get out your fun thing about. All right, so this is a lovely thing.

Ah, tea towels. Yeah, here we go. No, it's not a tea. Well, it is a tea towel, but no. No, it's not a tea towel. It is technically a tea towel. All right, but I think you really like this too. You like art.

I don't like anything. Okay, so I was on the old Instagrams the other day, because where else am I going? I'm on the Instagrams. And this popped up from someone that I follow. It's a recipe book called Recipes with Friends. Now it's by Alice Orr. And Alice is a Melbourne-based artist and designer who draws for business and pleasure. Her cookbook was done during lockdown last year and she basically gathered recipes from friends near and far that were close to their heart and very tried and tested. But because she's a really cool artist, she kind of included each recipe with a really funny kind

of drawing that she's done and it's really delightful. Her art in general is really cool. I went on a deep dive. I think you'd really like it. It's really bright and fun. Incorporates her love of food and color and pattern and collage. And she works with paper and also with pixels, so digitally, to create her designs. And she's done two real big published books, one called The Art of Cake and another one called Still Life Drawing. But this one is, this recipe book with friends is self-published.

Oh, that's very self-published. It looks self-bound. Yes, but it is. It's like she bound it at the office works. Yeah, but I know. Not in a bad way, Claire. Now, just flip through that, James. Why don't you flip through it?

Because I think it's really cute. And I'll show you some of these characters. Oh, it's got little drawings and stuff. Look at this. And it comes with a tea towel. So I know sometimes listeners say to me, Claire, I need to get a present for a friend of mine. What should I get?

Well, if you have a person in your life for Christmas who likes cooking and this kind of stuff, it's such a cool book. Each recipe comes with a little. It does feel like unique and handcrafted as well. Doesn't it? And each, like she has these little characters. She's got a mouse sleeping on a potato or something. It does.

So like for instance, it's got like Japanese fried rice and there's like a little shiitake mushroom with a little. It's a mouse on a souffle. Yeah, correct, exactly. There's a fish wrapped in spaghetti. Correct. There's a little happy looking prawn with a little bow tie and then like a sexy looking pig and a cute little potato with like a.

Is that sexy? I don't know. Maybe. This chicken's stirring a casserole. That's very sexy eggplant there. Look at that. Where's the eggplant? Posing.

Yeah, that's my jam. That's your jam, the sexy eggplant. It's just there's some really cute little characters. She does really good caricatures. And it comes so you can buy like whatever color front cover you want and it comes with a little tea towel. It's only like $30. Yeah.

But the tea towel I think it's $50. And just the recipes, I've been flicking through them and I can't wait to cook from it because you can just tell each recipe is one that someone's really put a huge amount of work into. My favourite one that I read that jumped out at me that I thought you would hate so I thought I would share. Let's do it. one that I read that jumped out at me that I thought you would hate so I thought I would share.

Let's do it. The very last one, it has been donated by someone called Nick Dowse and this is such a Brunswick, Thornbury, Melbourne-esque thing. Here we go. It's called Smoky Honey Old Fashioned. This is a recipe for a drink. The back of it has some cocktails in it and the blurb says, this old-fashioned edit was concocted for a honey harvest party.

The ceremonial smoking of the honeycomb requires a bit of work in advance, but you'll be prepped and ready to party when your friends arrive. In a perfect world, you'd have a beekeeper friend provide you with fresh comb and honey. And if you can access the bark of the prickly-leaved paperback tree for the smoking, that would be ideal. You can still find these trees on many of Melbourne's older suburban streets.

The aroma is very special. I think that's great and I love that to death and I knew that you would hate that because you hate all that stuff. I don't hate it. If it's good, whatever, man. You hate that kind of stuff. I'm not. I know you like cookbooks that are like,

and here's the story where this came. I'm like, I don't care. I just want a picture of the food and then how to make that particular food. All right. Well, what I love about this recipe book as well is that I'll read you just – like it has in sections that it's got savory snacks at the start. Okay. Because I'm snacks at the start. Okay. Because I'm all into all about the snacks and there's some really great easy ones.

There's one for, where is it here, Tostitos, which are like kind of little. I know what Tostitos are. Yeah, bready, eggy, cheesy deliciousness. But then there's also a lot of Asian recipes too, like for banh bie bao. And then there's like recipes for crackers, homemade crackers that you can have with cheese and fancy chutney. Asian recipes too, like for banh bie bao. And then there's like recipes for crackers,

homemade crackers that you can have with cheese and fancy chutney. And then just like really cool dips. They've got a recipe for dinosaur chips, which is basically just kale chips, but they call them dinosaur chips for their kids. So they'll eat them. And Kewpie miso dip, which just looks delicious and super easy. Just chock full of great recipes and little tips for people because they've been made so many times. And there's even a recipe for a really good boiled egg and it gives you on it the time. So it's like four minutes for soft, five for semi and eight for hard, which I know sounds ridiculous but I Google that so often. I know.

If you want two soft boiled eggs, you do it for four and a half minutes. All right. I know. You're want two soft-boiled eggs, you do it for four and a half minutes. All right. I know. You're very particular. Yes, yes, yes. Anyway, look at this little dude with his breakfast taco. He's so cute. He's got a little mustache.

You showed me that one before. I know. Okay. That's super boring for anyone who can't see it. Anyway, go and Google her. It's Alice O-E-H-R, and she's on Instagram. So go and follow her and just get cheered up by her beautiful illustrations. Question, do I have to?

Yes. All right then. Yes. Does that apply to everybody? I demand it. Does it apply to everybody listening to this? You know what? Yeah.

You have to. If you're out there, you've got to listen. I think you're all a bunch of sad sacks and you all need to go have some cheerful pictures in your life. Also, it'll take you like five minutes. Look, there's one for a fancy salad and the lady's wearing a fancy hat with salad on it. It's a salad hat. It's a salad hat. Would you wear a salad hat?

That wouldn't go out of bloody place at the bloody Melbourne races, Amarato, whatever the fuck happens in November. No, exactly. Then you could eat an old fashioned honeycomb cocktail smoked from your... Racing carnival season. My favorite part of that is such a hipster thing from Melbourne to say if you happen to have a beekeeper friend, which I love when we all should because bees are special and we need to look after them for the environment

and that's a whole other thing. If you don't have a beekeeper friend, do you really have any friends at all? That's what I always say. Correct. Exactly. And we have a friend who has a beekeeper friend. Do we? I think we do.

Friend of a friend. Wow. We're nearly there. We're nearly there. We've nearly made it. Tell you this much though, I don't want any beekeeper friend. Do we? I think we do. Friend of a friend. Wow. We're nearly there. We're nearly there. We've nearly made it. Tell you this much though, I don't want any beekeeper friends because they're just going to be always telling me about bees and I'm like, listen, I don't care about bees at all.

You know what? One day you will care about bees and we're in the dystopian future that you love so much. And I'll be like, I should have learned more about bees as I'm in the desert running from like a petrol baron or whatever. Correct, exactly. What was that Black Mirror episode where they had robotic bees? Terrifying.

Oh, the robotic bee one. Yeah, terrifying. Anyway, we actually really need bees. One of my students was really obsessed with them and I totally am there for it. It's very scary. But let's not go into the dark and doom and gloom that potentially is our future.

Tell us something terrible that you have recommended. It's going to be terrible and's not go into the dark and doom and gloom that potentially is our future. Tell us something terrible that you have recommended. It's going to be terrible and terrifying. This is another. And also, give me a drink. Give me it. What did you say to me? This is another series on Netflix which came out last Friday or something like that. It's called Midnight Mass, which is a supernatural horror series by Mike Flanagan,

who I think has been doing some of the best modern horror that there is. He's done Gerald's Game. He's done The Haunting of Bly Manor, two seasons, which I haven't watched, but my brother, the one Mason doesn't like, for one, I know really, really likes it. He's done Doctor Sleep, which is the follow-up to The Shining, which is a terrific movie. Anyway, it stars Zach Guilford, Kate Siegel, Hamish Linklater, Rahul Akholi. Hang on, I have a question. Sure. I know he's done lots of horror movies.

Has he done the horror movie where I wake up and there's no milk for my coffee? Yeah, he did make that one. All right, cool. I just wanted to check. Continue with your boring thing. The solution to this problem that you jumped in with is just get some more milk because you live close to a shop and just go and get some. But look, listeners will appreciate this.

When you have tiny children and the only thing getting you out of bed in the morning is the coffee. How much of this did you drink? I drank a lot. It was very hot today. Fuck. I did to you. For once, I did to you.

So I should have drunk more water. You're always telling me to drink more water and I never do and I should. You're too busy talking about eating bees or whatever you're up to. Honeycomb, not bees. I'm going back to telling the listeners all about how some listeners will really appreciate this. When you are out of milk in the morning and all you want is your coffee in the morning at 6 o'clock in the morning and you know for a fact

that you can't leave the house because you have tiny people and the shops aren't even open because it's a goddamn pandemic, what else is a woman to do? What am I to do? I can't have black coffee. I was going to say you can have black coffee or here's something. Or black tea. Here's something.

Depressing. The horror move. You could organise your life better. You're absolutely spiralling and you need to plan these things out, Claire. You've got to think about the future. You're always thinking about the present day. You're absolutely spiraling and you need to plan these things out, Claire. You've got to think about the future. You're always thinking about the present day. You're always thinking about bees. You know, you've got to think about the honey.

You've got to think about the milk as well, you know. That's what I've always been saying to you. And I never have that problem in the morning. I never run out of milk for my coffee in the morning. Yeah, because you don't bloody drink coffee and you also don't get up in the morning. You get up in the morning this morning like so chipper because you have been working late so you've been sleeping in.

So I've been up for fucking five billion hours. I've been playing and watching terrible James Bond movies. Exactly, alone in the silence. And then I've been up since like 5 a.m. or something. And then finally you bounce out of bed and you're like, good morning, how are you? And I'm so mad. I'm like, ugh.

No, but the most recent times, because I haven't been waking you up, you've come down all fresh and sprightly. And I feel fresh. And I've just been like so internally mad at you, even though I totally understand why and it's been totally fine and I get it. But still. Okay, so just to clarify, this is fine and not a personal grievance

you're airing on this podcast. No, it's really not. Just to clarify. So this isn't a complaint. If anything, this is a, you're commending me for my actions. No, all I'm saying is. Oh, that's the dog. Oh, that's the possum.

Anyway. I think there's more of a bloody fight going on in here than out there. No. Anyways. It's just the level of chipperness. I understand that. Which is crazy because this pandemic must be really getting to me because I'm the chipperest of chipper.

No, she's not. She's dark on the inside. People think I'm dark on the inside, which is true, but I'm also darker on the outside. So, Clez, it's grimly dark. Which is why I think you'd actually like this show. All right. Continue. Tell me. Midnight Mass why I think you'd actually like this show. All right. Continue.

Tell me. Midnight Mass. So I think you'd genuinely like this. It's about a small, isolated island community who's – so basically they're in a dying fishing town because there's been an oil tanker spill and it ruined their industry. There's like 100 people that live on this island, including a school. It's somewhere in America, somewhere terrible. But these divisions in the town are

amplified by the return of, for one, a disgraced young man and the arrival of a charismatic priest. So there is this like, there's a church community, but like nobody goes, it's like two old people. And you know, that one woman who always runs like the church community and she's awful, you know what I'm talking about. Every church has one. And so what happens is when this priest comes in, he kind of flips the whole thing on its head and he starts getting people coming back to church.

And then you slowly realise that he starts to perform these miracles and you're seeing things in the town turn around. People are healing. Things are getting better. There's more positivity. The numbers are up in the church. Like he's really raising spirits. Now you're not going to watch this.

I'm about to spoil what the reveal is, right? Okay. Because you couldn't handle the gore in this because there is a fair bit of gore. It's not crazy but there's enough. Okay, before you tell me, can I guess? Okay. Because you couldn't handle the gore in this because there is a fair bit of gore. It's not crazy, but there's enough. Before you tell me, can I guess? Sure. Is he the sexy priest from Fleabag, first up? No.

He is very good, though. He's excellent in this. Is he like the sexy priest from Ballacus Angel? He's not sexy, Claire. He's a regular-looking man. You said he was like a sexy young. No, he's like charismatic. Oh, but not sexy.

Yeah. How old is he? He's probably early 40s, probably. Early to mid-40s. No, he's like charismatic. Oh, but not sexy. Yeah. How old is he? He's probably early 40s probably. Early to mid 40s. That can be sexy, Claire. Hey, if you're out there and you're early to mid 40s, I think you're sexy. And a priest.

And a priest. No, I don't think you're sexy if you're a priest. No, I agree. Age is sexless. I mean. Age is sexless. Anyway, so it turns out. No, no, no.

Let me guess. Let me guess. Let me guess. Are you going to say another sexy you're gonna say another sexy priest thing because your brain is frozen on that so you can't think of a second thing i'm thinking i'm thinking i'm thinking is he actually an alien no but you're on the no you're not on the right track actually oh but it is something supernatural so there will be a time code below that Collings, who edits this, will put in. But basically what he's done, when he was out in the world, this guy, he came across a cavern and in that cavern he found what he believed

to be an angel. It's like this winged creature, right, that he brought back to the island. It's like its blood is healing people. But it's a vampire. It's a vampire and he's putting like and and the healing properties and all the terrible things are about a vampire are going out into the community so it's healing people but also in turn you get like the vampiric kind of properties and it's funny because like when you see this thing like this is also clearly in a world where vampires like don't exist as like a concept

because otherwise you'd be like, that's a vampire like straight up. But when you see this thing it's like, that looks like a demon if anything. Like it's got the sharp teeth, the bald head and the huge like like leathery skin wings. But it's also interesting because this town is dying because it's performing these miracles

people are perceiving it as an angel and that's how they're accepting this thing they're like well this is a blessing from god but but as someone watching it and some people the town are like that's clearly not an angel like that's something else i you know and it's just and the way it kind of you know spins from there is is is very very interesting so it's like how this community is transformed by this horrible monster essentially because they're so down and they're like and so broken so like it incorporates like grief and grief and faith and redemption and like the worst and best of humanity and one of the characters are the sheriff of the town or the

officer he's a muslim and he's done so much in his life to kind of fit in because he went into the police force because of 9-11 he wanted to prove that not every muslim is like this right and so he was always pushing against that like this stereotype that he was a bad person but every every time he's gone to do something he's kind of got slapped back you know for him reaching out and being like, I'm not a terrible person. And it's interesting having someone like that on the island and the people who still don't trust him, even though he's the one being like, something is obviously, like, wrong here.

They're like, you know, you're just a non-believer and this and that. So does the vampire turn them into vampires? Because isn't that normally what happens? You get bitten and then you become a vampire? Does the vampire turn them into vampires? Like, because isn't that normally what happens? Well, it's like a slow. You get bitten and then you become a vampire. Again, to spoil it, but it's like the priest, I guess I'm just spoiling all of this at this point. So, again, skip ahead because there's more things in it.

But the priest is actually the old priest from the town who's like 90 years old. He came across the vampire. It bit him, made him young again, and then he brought the vampire back to be like, it made him young again, and then he brought the vampire back to be like, it made me young again. I can use this in the town to heal people and all of these kinds of things. So he's got this misguided belief that, again,

this thing has been sent by God for me to spread the good word and people are like, this guy's Jesus or whatever and all these kind of things and it just spirals horribly. But does he end up turning into a vampire? Well, not in the same way that like that thing is because the thing, the creature is like an old school like Nosferatu, like demon looking thing. Like you see it and it's like, that's very upsetting.

Do people start biting each other though? Well, it gets to that point where, you know, things start. And again, because it's isolated, it becomes, and it's like, it's ultimately it's like it's very bittersweet and kind of like, and like life affirming for some people and other people have the revelation that maybe they're terrible people and just were looking for excuse to ostracise people and et cetera. And just Mike Flanagan, he's terrific.

He's just been doing so much good stuff. He's like what Stephen King kind of was to like writing. I feel like, and he has adapted some Stephen King stuff, what he's like doing in the modern day, like taking these ideas and presenting them in really interesting, like upsetting and like challenging ways. And it's also like very, like the same time commercially viable and like very, like the cast is really interesting and the performances are great.

Again, another thing that I loved it. It was really terrific. And I'm hoping that, look, I'll watch anything this guy does. Like he's just, he doesn't, he doesn't miss. Yeah. So. All right. I'm not going to watch that.

No, I think if it didn't have the gore and all that, I think you could have handled it. You know what? Actually, it does sound really fascinating. It does sound like something, because I do like that kind of supernatural stuff. I just can't handle too much gore at the moment. Yeah.

Because my, even though I watch a British crime show. Sure. But there's very little like stuff in there. And there's some like like stuff in there. And there's some like scares in it and things like that. Yeah, it's the tension. Yeah. And the people who like rise to prominence in the show you wouldn't

necessarily expect. Like I was messaging my brother about it and I'm like, I think this person's going to do this, this and this. And it kind of went a different direction than what I thought, which I always appreciate, you know, being surprised by. Yeah, so it's got like a satisfying ending. Yeah, and one of the lead guys is one of the lead guys from Friday Night Lights, which was a show that you loved.

I love Friday Night Lights. Oh, maybe I should have watched this, but now you've spoiled it. There's still plenty in there to see. Like I haven't spoiled all of it, but I hope that you do. All righty. If you haven't. All righty. Well.

Midnight Mass. Midnight Mass. Okay you haven't. All righty. Well. Midnight Mass. Midnight Mass. Okay. Where is it on? Netflix. Netflix. I was going to say that one because in a month we have to do our Halloween episode. I know.

I was going to say that sounds perfect for Halloween. I've got plenty of Halloween stuff in the can. But you've got to start thinking about it now though, Claire. You do. This is true. No, you do. I do. I know, but I don't want to watch any spooky things.

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We really appreciate it. And just thanks to everyone who has been writing in general. We really appreciate it. All right. So I have got a recommendation email from a wonderful Bob Poulos. Okay. He has also sent in his Lego room. Where should I put these photos of the Lego rooms? Where should I put them? I know, Instagram, I guess.

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That thing is 7,500 pieces and costs $1,300. So disconnected. Look at that. My God, look at that. Look at this Lego room. What's he sorting by there? What's he up to? I know. He's, look at that. Look at this Lego room. What's he sorting by there? What's he up to? I know.

He's got it all in tiny little kind of compartments and he's got, yeah, this is an amazing Lego room. Oh, my goodness. I'm definitely going to share this. Wow. It's really impressive actually. My goodness. And actually I have one other email just for a public service announcement.

I don't know if you remember from last week, we got hit by an earthquake last week. I remember. Among all the things. And the wonderful Rorsa Spicer has written in with some advice for earthquakes. I love earthquake advice. Hi, Claire and James. I've lived in areas where earthquake safety is a big deal for most of my life,

the west coast of the United States. Yeah, because we just don't get earthquakes at all. And I'm writing to correct some information on what to do during an earthquake that you discussed in your latest episode. Please, let's do it. In most situations, you should drop, cover, and hold on. So to correct some specific misconceptions you stated, if you were inside during an earthquake, absolutely stay inside.

Okay. If you are able, lie down next to or under a heavy piece of furniture like a bed or dresser. Yep. Wow. Also in general, do not stand in a doorway. If you are outside, stay outside and move away from buildings. Makes sense.

After the shaking stops, you should evacuate only if the building or area around you is unsafe. This includes heading for higher ground on foot if you are near the ocean or other large body of water. Because of tidal waves? Yes. Tidal waves, not tidal waves. Tsunamis, isn't that what they're called?

Additionally, here are some links to US and Australian government sources on how to prepare for and what to do during an earthquake. These resources provide information for what to do wherever you are. So why don't you stand in a doorway? Yeah, I'm wondering why that is. Thanks, Ross. This is actually, he also said, Piers, I think your show is pretty great. We think you're pretty great, mate.

I appreciate your earthquake advice. Correct, me too. I'm not quite sure. Maybe in case the door collapses or something. Yeah, fair enough. So you should stay outside and move away from buildings if you're outside or under like a heavy piece of furniture and stay inside. That makes sense because there was some like falling debris and things that popped around

I think it's pronounced debris, isn't it? Debris. I think you have to say it like that. Debris. Let me say it one more time. That's really fun. Debris. Debris.

Debris. Oh, it's the debris. Anyway, we are very lucky to be in a country where earthquake safety is not top of mind and also we haven't had anyone be seriously injured or anything from it. Yet. Yet. However, thank you so much and thank you, Rosa.

You're a legend. Did you know Rosa, was that the name? Rosa. Rosa, correct. Rosa, that you can actually review the show. I mean, I'm not just talking to Rorsa. I'm talking to everybody who's listening to this. You can go in app and you can go, hey, you can just go clickety-clack.

I'm going to review this podcast. You can say it yourself. This one is from Pat McAfee Show 2.0 Review. It says, bonding time. I'm locked on listener of James' most successful podcast and decided one day to try this out while driving with my wife my wife generally our podcast tastes don't converge much but i'm happy to report that she enjoyed the show just as much as i did now we have another thing to

enjoy sharing together and i can't thank you two enough we both will be looking forward to this every week for the foreseeable future foreseeable good, but like if he was like forever, indefinite, infinite futures, that would be much more appealing. Isn't it going to be weird that we're going to be dead one day and these are still going to be out there? I thought that. Even if they're wiped off the internet, like somebody will probably have one of these on like an old hard drive

somewhere. Some of the things I've said, James, I'm terrified. Doesn't matter. It'd be dead night. Good God. I know. Well, hello if you're listening to us in multiple dimensions. Yeah, what's up?

Hello. How's the future? Hello. Pretty much like now. How's your dumb flying car? Running out of milk for the coffee. How's your dumb ass? I know.

Hoverboards. You've always wanted a hoverboard, haven't you? Nah. Too old now. What? Yeah. Never too old. Never say never.

Look, even geriatrics can ride a skateboard. We are, it's true, but we're in the era of dads my age busting out skateboards again. You know what I mean? We're hit that point in time. I'm loving it. I'm loving it. So I'm not going to learn to skate when I'm 38 years old.

You have a closed mindset. You need to open it. You need to open your mind. Why don't you skate then? Why don't you jump on a skateboard and blow your knee out? No, I'm learning to surf instead. You know what I'm going to do? And I'm also going to learn to kayak.

I've been researching kayaks. I'm going to learn to kayak down the river because we don't live near the ocean. I'm missing the ocean. So instead, I'm going to kayak down the river. You're going to kayak down a dirty brown river. No, it's not a dirty brown river. It's a beautiful river. Okay, okay, okay. to kayak down the river. You're going to kayak down a dirty brown river. No, it's not a dirty brown river. It's a beautiful river.

Okay, okay, okay. It's a lovely river. You're such a bloody, bloody mooch. So you want me to buy a skateboard, do you? No, I want to buy a kayak. Do you want me to buy a skateboard? No, but you're hilly. I don't know.

Do what you want. Whatever floats your boat, mate. My boat is not buying a skateboard. Well, you're the one that brought up the skateboarding. I feel like this is the thing where you keep saying you're going to grow your hair long and get a man bun. I'm going to grow my hair long and I'm going to get a man bun. And a skateboard. You're going to love it.

And a skateboard. I feel like none of these things are going to happen, listeners. It's probably true. They're definitely not. Anyhoo, that's it. All right. See you guys next week. Bye.

Or the foreseeable future. And thank you to Royal Collings for editing this episode. And I'm sorry, Royal Collings, for spoiling Midnight Mass for you and you had to week. Bye. Or the foreseeable future. And thank you to Royal Collings for editing this episode. And I'm sorry, Royal Collings, for spoiling Midnight Mass for you and you had to listen to that. I know. You've wrecked it for him. But it's Claire's fault because she didn't want to watch it with me. What?

No. Did you ask me? Yeah. I was like, we should watch this show. It's called Midnight Mass. Oh, but you probably picked a time when I was like at the end of the day. I was making that up. The conversation didn't happen.

Bye, everybody. Bye. I had to watch the submarine of the day. I was making that up. The conversation didn't happen. Bye, everybody. Bye. I had to watch the submarine show. No one cares about your submarine show. You told me it didn't even end very nicely. It didn't end that well. Well, I still enjoyed it. Yeah.

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