Suggestible - Tell Me Who I Am

Episode Date: November 20, 2019

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I just... You happen to be one of the most annoying people that I know. Thank you. You're welcome. I'm also one of the four people you that I know. Thank you. You're welcome. I'm also one of the four people you know. You don't have any friends anymore, Claire, now that you're married with a kid. Yeah, that's right. I just stay at home all day looking at your sad old face.

All right. I'm James. You're James. I'm Claire. This is Suggestible Pod and we recommend you stuff. Yeah, we do. You know we do. And the idea is that when we recommend things to you,

you then go and try those things out or completely ignore those recommendations. Either way, we mostly don't know what you do. Right. Thanks, Captain Obvious. Thank you. For stating the obvious. Would you like me to go first? Yeah.

Okay. Get the boring one out of the way. No, this is a good one. I think you'll like it. Ooh, okay. This is a Netflix documentary, not series, one movie. It's called Tell Me Who I Am, and it's about twins in Britain called Alex and Marcus.

Ooh, I've heard of this one. I've heard of it. It sounds really interesting. Anyway, explain it. I haven't watched it yet. So they basically, they grew up together because they're twins. And the interesting thing about these guys is they're mirrors of each other. One's left brain, one's right brain.

So they say one's left-handed, one's right-handed. Whoa. I know, what a strange kind of. So they're identical. Yes. So the same embryo split. But reversed, I guess. But the idea is that one of, well, this is not the idea.

This is what happened. In like the early 80s, one of them, Alex, has a severe motorcycle accident, right? Vroom! Ah! Crash. Yeah, that's right. That's how exactly. Thank you for inserting that clip, Collings, of the accident, which was recreated.

So sorry. It's a tragic story, Claire. I'm drinking a banana smoothie while we're going. Nothing to do with whatever that was. Don't blame the banana smoothie. You know when I'm drinking something with a bit of sugar and I get a bit of pep? Anyway, continue with your twins, Doc. Anyway, so one who has an accident is 19.

He wakes up and he recognizes his brother. Brother, I see you over there. Oh, my God. Colleen, thank you so much again for putting that clip in. But he doesn't recognize anything else. He doesn't recognize his parents. He doesn't recommend them. Well, he shouldn't because they're bad people but we'll get to that he doesn't recognize his parents doesn't recognize any of his friends so he goes home to live with

his brother and his brother basically re-teaches him everything he shows him a picture and he's like oh where was this and he's like oh we went to the beach when we were kids with you know and he's like did we go on holidays like yeah we went holidays all the time we had you know and he's like, did we go on holidays? Like, yeah, we went on holidays all the time. And he's like, did we have a happy childhood? He goes, yeah, we had like a normal happy childhood and happy families and all these things. The way that Marcus then frames it is, this is a quote that I've got, it says, I painted a picture of a normal family,

but none of it was true. It was a fantasy that I was creating for him. So there is this kind of mystery element to the story because they're not interviewed together, at least at first. So you're like, why is this, why is he lying to his brother? Is he just kind of, is he taking advantage of him? Like what's going on here? And it turns out that after his parents die, the dad goes and then the mother, the brother who doesn't remember Alex is like, is he's devastated because this is like his parents that he knew was when he came home from 19 onwards, they were really kind and nice and sweet.

And they like, it was a bit weird. And there were certain rooms they couldn't go in even when they were, you know, in their twenties. But, you know, he was quite devastated. But Marcus was like, fuck these people. And I don't care. So anyway, when they're clearing out the house, they start to find some signs that, or Alex starts to find some things that don't quite add up.

There's a photo of them as children that they're nude and their heads like torn off. And there's little things like that. And he starts to ask questions like about, like things that he just took for granted. He suddenly realized doesn't add up because the person that he trusts most in the world is his twin brother.

And you come out of an accident, he's the only person he knows and obviously he knows him because they look the same. So he's like, why would this guy lie to me? But it turns out they have this whole history of like abuse relating to the parents and other people, which one of them remembers and the other one doesn't. So it then becomes this moral dilemma of, well,

I can tell him all these things that happened, but these were terrible, terrible things. And would I ruin his life by revealing these two things to him? And then that has to bring them up for me because by his brother kind of forging his memories, it feels like the brother who remembers feels like there's some closure there. At least he can kind of block it off and not, and not think about it. But then he, Alex, who, who's though feels like he's missing all these aspects of his

life. And even though they're terrible and he can't remember them, he feels like, well, what is even real? Everything I know is not true. And so there's fun things like when they'd go to parties, before they'd go in the room, like Marcus would be like, okay, so this person's named Jane and this person's named Peter or whatever. So what are you going to do?

Peter's got curly hair. So they're going to say hello and they're going to say, how was this thing? And you say whatever. So they would pretend, they would teach him everything about their friends and people that he knew to kind of, so people would think that everything was fine. And he is fine now. Like his memory is fine, but he's only got things from after he's 19.

Like it was things like, what's a fork and whatever. And so anyway, that's not really relevant, but it's fascinating. It's kind of, I don't know, I guess it's sort of a morality tale and kind of like it's about what's real and trust and love and parenting and it's just really, really interesting. Wow, does it make you think about what you would do in that situation? Oh, definitely, yeah. It's so interesting, isn't it, whether or not it's moral to lie to someone

to protect them. And it's also one of those things where if he's just come out of this like severe accident and he's fine, like physically he's fine. He just doesn't have any memories from before that time. He just vaguely knows who his brother is. Yeah. It's like do you tell somebody immediately that, you know,

or do you wait? When's a good time? Is there a good time? So it's and then eventually in the stock they sit down and they have a discussion about what actually happened. How old were they when they did that? Early 50s maybe. Whoa.

So he's lived like a lot – most of his life not knowing. Yeah, but he kind of found out when he was like late 20s, early 30s that something was wrong. But his brother was like, I cannot revisit these things. And when you do find out what happened, it's horrible. It's like the worst thing you could do to a child. Oh, I don't want to know. Yeah, but at the same time, it's kind of uplifting and there is this,

I mean, I guess I'm kind of spoiling it, but there is still this connection between these two and this love that kind of really comes through despite the actions of either of them, or Marcus in particular, for not telling him these things. Yeah. It's on Netflix. It's great. Wow.

You should watch it. What's it called again? It's called Tell Me Who I Am. I'll tell you. You're an old duck. That's on Netflix. It's great. Wow. What's it called again? It's called Tell Me Who I Am. I'll tell you. You're an old duck. That's not incorrect. Or an old boot. I'm bringing it back. That's right, you old boot. Classic memories. Well, that sounds fascinating. I heard it recommended on another podcast. So I've had it on my list. A better podcast? A better one. Definitely. But yes, that sounds excellent. I'm definitely going to check that out. It's also not like crazy graphic. They don't show you like weird, obviously.

Things that happened. Yeah, I know because I just find. It's more like psychologically like, oh, this is horrible. Yeah, see, I still really struggle with that kind of stuff. I used to be fine but after I had our son, I really struggle watching stuff that's quite. I used to quite like Law and Order and things like that. I just can't do it.

I still haven't watched that Tony Collette, what's it called, the TV show on Netflix about the rape victim. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I've talked about this. Unbelievable. Unbelievable. Yeah, I still haven't watched that even though I know it's excellent because I'm trying to protect my head and my heart at the moment.

I completely understand that, yeah. However, that sounds really frustrating. I'm totally going to do it. I think you can handle it. All right. Yeah. And it doesn't end on like a downer to, again, to kind of spoil it. All right. Okay. I'm going to check it out. All right. And it doesn't end on like a downer to, again, to kind of spoil it.

All right. Okay. I'm going to check it out. Please do. Is it my turn? It's always your turn, Clare. Excellent. You know how I normally love to read a book?

Well, this week I haven't. I'm literate. Look at me. I'm actually reading a book currently, but it's been a long one. So I'll talk about it later. But. The Bible. James, I've read that already.

I live my life by the Bible I don't believe you No I really don't I married you Satan's son I don't know I'm so sorry Satan's son's name is Damien

Claire That is true He loves to go out and party Damien He's a real guy Not real guy But that's what his actual son's name is Is it really? It's in like mythology

Oh really? I thought you just mythology, yeah. Oh, really? I thought you just made that up. Like Daryl from Next Door. Imagine if you live next door to Satan's son. I wouldn't talk to him. You don't talk to your neighbours anyway. Yeah, I know, but I extra wouldn't talk to him. And he'd try and get in with you because he'd be real slick and smooth

and I'd be like, get the fuck out of here, Satan's son. I know what you're doing. What if he didn't want to be anything like his dad though? What if he was trying to forge his own identity? He was trying to like leave the shackles. People aren't their parents. They aren't. There's actually an interesting comic by Mark Miller called American Jesus

where it's about you think it's the Messiah and then, spoiler alert, it turns out it's the son of the devil. And then it's like, well, is he, though, a good guy? Because you can use this. It doesn't matter. Good Omens is also about that. Sorry, go. All right, but that is really interesting.

People are not their parents. Good to know. Though sometimes I look like my mother more and more every day. It's true. Yep, so that's an interesting conundrum too. That's a good thing though, Claire. Your mother's a delight. My mum's excellent and she listens to this show.

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Or we can demand more from ourselves. At York University, we work together to create positive change for a better tomorrow. Join us at yorku.ca slash write the future. All right, my recommendation, I just loved this show. It's called Total Control. It's currently on ABC iview, but I'm sure that very soon you'll be able to get it on iTunes. It is brilliant.

It's produced by Rachel Griffiths, who that wonderful, is it Six Feet Under? That brilliant show that she did. Didn't you say she was in that other thing, the horse thing? She produced the film Ride Like a Girl, but she's just brilliant. Brilliant in Muriel's Wedding. If you haven't watched that, that's a really iconic Australian film and she's excellent in that. That's retro, but great. But Total Control is brilliant. Its previous title was Black Bitch and there was some kind of controversy around that. So the producers decided to call it Total Control.

Right. It's written by Angela Bedzien and Pip Carmel, directed by Rachel Perkins who is founder of Blackfella Films. Right. And Blackfella Films have produced a lot of Indigenous Australian films and docos including Redfern, Now, Marbo and First Australians. Redfern's supposed to be amazing isn't it? Yeah it's supposed to be really really excellent and another one as well called The Tall Man so obviously it deals a lot with Indigenous issues but this is just brilliantly shot.

We're going to be talking about The Morning Show after this and I was watching the morning show as well as this show and it just just made me realize how fantastic it is when you really land on a show that's just beautifully crafted and the editing is so tight and it's interesting because clearly the budget of one is oh I know and it's you know one has got crazy stars you know and and it's, you know, one has got crazy stars, you know, and this is obviously a lot smaller budget. But it's just so beautifully shot. So it pivots between a rural town in central Queensland called Winton. So it's really quite remote. They're mainly known for sheep and cattle.

Is it a real place? Yeah, it is a real place, yeah. So it's a very remote small town with a high Indigenous population. I haven't been to Winton. I haven't been to Winton. We haven't been to Winton but a couple of our friends were working there for a while. Oh, okay. That's why I've heard that. Yeah, and it's very rural and remote, very small.

It's all the same shit in the middle. Don't even worry about it. Well, anyway, so it's, you know, set in the Australian outback, really iconic imagery and it's a really interesting look at Indigenous cultural life in those rural communities. But then it's actually positioned with Canberra, which is our capital city, and Parliament House there. So most of the TV show is set in those two locations and also in Sydney.

It's interesting because most people don't know that Canberra is the capital city of Australia. I know. A lot of people think it's the Great Barrier Reef. Not true. I know because Sydney lot of people think it's the Great Barrier Reef. Not true. I know because Sydney and Melbourne are really two major cities, but no one could decide between them, so they literally put the ACT and Canberra right in the middle of the two.

And you know what? Good, because I don't want any of that shit anywhere near me. Anyway, so it's a political drama starring Rachel Griffiths as Australia's first female Prime Minister, Rachel Henderson, Anderson, sorry, and Deborah Mailman as her political rival called Alex Irvin. She's great. Oh, she's brilliant. I mean, they're both great, but I feel like people might not know Deborah Mailman as much

as they know. No, but she's an Indigenous Australian actor and just, she's spectacular in anything you put her in. So you've got to start on the show with Joel Edgerton called The Secret Life of Us. Yeah, I just said that. Oh, sorry. I just wanted to mention the Joel Edgerton thing because people would know Joel Edgerton.

Oh, right. And that's just a brilliant show to watch too. Or it was. Maybe it doesn't hold up. But it was for the time. It was with Claudia Carbon who's another really brilliant Australian actress. And so Deborah Mailman smashes us out of the park.

She's actually a really great comedic actress as well. But in this she plays a really strong, opinionated, kind of hard line woman. She's recruited into the Senate in Australia after a contentious video goes viral. In the video, Deborah's character, Alex, stands up to a gunman in her small town of Winton. And the opening of the first episode really is that, where this guy, it's sort of a domestic abuse case. He pulls out a gun, runs over a woman, and she has to kind of stand in front of him and confront him. Right.

And it's on footage and then the footage goes viral. But she's also very politically minded and socially minded. So her family and her mother in particular, who's played brilliantly by Tricia Morton Thomas, is this really strong, calm woman who is part of the Stolen Generation. Right. And you see her family as this kind of beacon in their community and like an example of really hardworking Australians who are trying to make good with what they have. And Deborah's character, Alex, obviously through what she's been through,

she's a single mother, is a really hard worker, but she also has to just stand up for herself so often and just fight every day of her life that she becomes, she's very hardened but very funny. And the way she speaks to the people in her life, including her brother who's played by Rob Collins and he's excellent. Who's Rob Collins? I don's excellent. Who's Rob Collins? I don't know.

I know Robert Collins, of course. He's been in a few Australian TV shows, including one written by Zoe Foster Blake about the wrong girl. Oh, yeah. He was the love interest in that. Oh, I know him. He's the chef in that. Yeah, he's the chef.

Yeah, and he's very handsome but also brilliant. He's socialist and he lives in Sydney, so he's sort of your traditional socialist, Indigenous activist, you know, green tea sipping. And she is actually a conservative politically. And so they have a lot of clashes. And the way she speaks to him is really, really funny. But she's just very dry in her sense of humour. The first series, really, so I've watched all six episodes,

pivots on Indigenous native title ownership, the difficulties found in remote communities. They also examine deaths in custody of Indigenous youth, which is a huge problem. And the bonds of family and cultural identity. So it's all kind of in the mix as well as exploitation of Indigenous communities by the government. So yeah, it's really interesting watching Deborah Malman's character kind of unfold. It plays almost like a political thriller. Yeah.

And Rachel Griffiths plays the PM so well because she's actually a conservative PM and she sort of is stuck. Do they name parties? Yeah, they do. Yeah. So really Rachel Griffiths is head of the Liberals ostensibly. And William McInnes. For non-Australian listeners here, the Liberals are the Conservative Party.

Conservative Party. Correct. Yeah, exactly. It's confusing. It is confusing. But yeah, so she's head of the Conservative Party. But there's a whole lot of infighting. She's beholden by the hard right in her party to a lot of policies that she doesn't want

to go ahead with. The Senate is kind of stuck and one of the members of the Senate retires and so she needs to recruit someone and that's why she gets Deborah Malman's character in. But the balance of power is, you know, very, very precarious and because she's a woman they really examine what it's like to be a woman in politics as well. And Rachel Griffiths, as she always does, plays the character so well.

You can't ever really tell whether she's a good guy or not. Yeah, because I did see one scene where she's talking to Deborah Mailman about why she's in parliament and the role that she has and whether it's token or not. It feels like this really honest conversation, but at the same time it's like is she clearly using her at the same time? I really want to watch this. I should mention as well if you do live outside of Australia,

you can get it because it's on YouTube and Google Play. You can rent it from there. Oh, that's fantastic. It's so worth watching. It's really addictive. And look, it's quite dramatic. So some of it is a bit over the top when you think, oh, really, would that happen?

But it's also heartbreaking. I mean, that's life in politics, isn't it, Claire? Well, it does really paint a picture of what it takes to go into politics, kind of the smarmy characters that are involved and the backhanded dealings that happen. And also kind of what seems to happen with even good people who go into politics is they have to compromise. And they have to in order to stay in power, backflip and, you know, take deals that they wouldn't necessarily take.

It's a really interesting look at a lot of different issues done in a really clever, smart way and beautifully shot. Because we've lived in a rural community like the one depicted in Winton. No, I have been to Winton. I did a stopover there very briefly. When? It was coming home. It would have been like via Kununurra maybe.

Oh, really? Yeah, but the way they shoot Winton in the TV show really captures the essence of rural community living. And also because it's created from Indigenous perspective and it's directed by a woman, written by women and an Indigenous woman, it really does, it pulls no punches basically in outlining just how hard it is and the struggles for Indigenous communities to navigate the political landscape really

and all the different players and how complex Indigenous politics is as well. You know, there's not – everyone has a different opinion. There's so many different stakeholders. And Deborah Malman's character and her brother's character really highlight that, that just like in any group of people, you can have conservatives and people with more socialist, liberal views and how that works. Just because people are from the same background doesn't mean

they share the same beliefs. Yeah, exactly. So it's a really interesting look at that. And also it's just about kick-ass women. You know how much I bloody love that. So there's a lot of karate in it. Interesting. That sounds great.

I genuinely will watch that. And I guess that's funny because you mentioned that about an influential, strong woman who kind of gets put into a position because of a viral video. That's exactly how The Morning Show starts. It's called Morning Wars in Australia. It's on Apple+. Sorry, are we moving on to this yet? Yeah, yeah, go for it, yeah.

So we'll both kind of talk about this together. But it's produced and it's a show run by Jay Carson who makes a lot of TV stuff, but he also has done a lot of things in politics. He was Hillary Clinton's press secretary in 2008. He's worked for a bunch of other people, including Bill Clinton and this and that. I was just going through his bio.

And on the surface, it seems good. It's really hard to explain the morning show. It's Jennifer Aniston, Reese Witherspoon. It's Michael Scott. I wrote down Michael Scott. Yeah. I wrote down Michael Scott because I thought it would be funny. Now I can't remember his actual name. Steve Carell.

Steve Carell, yeah. And it's basically Steve Carell plays the Matt Lauer type morning show character who in the US in 2017 it was revealed that he was on the NBC Today show and he'd been sexually harassing women or having relationships with them and there was a lot of grey air about what was a consensual and actually it seems like the women that he did sleep with furthered their careers while the ones that refused him didn't. And it was, so it's still very much up in the end. The guy's gone, but he seems like a real creep, this guy.

So it's a really interesting premise, but there's something wrong with it. And I'm not exactly sure what it is. Tonally, it's all over the place. Performances are good. It looks gorgeous. It captures like the essence of a morning show. Like you feel. And there's really funny, great parts of it.

I mean, and Reese's production company, Hello Sunshine, spearheaded this project too. And she's brilliant in it and really funny. Everybody is. There's not a bad performance in it. No, and I mean the casting is great, the costumes are great, the set looks great, some of the script is good. I think sometimes the music actually is a bit off.

The tone is weird and it's not always but there's scenes like and I think they're trying to do a thing like Succession, which is a show you haven't really seen a lot of, but there's a lot of kind of classical music playing while like people are seriously looking at documents and like eyeing each other across boardrooms and things like that. Like House of Cards. Kind of like that. Yeah.

And they kind of try to work that in, but they seem to be missing key elements of that. There's a moment in the latest episode, because it is week to week. It comes out every Friday, I think. I can't remember. But so it just pops up in your streaming service. But there's this big article comes out in relation to the Steve Carell character and all the sexual assault allegations. And everyone's worried about what's going to be said and who was affected

and who's going to lose their jobs. So people are reading this article while kind of this serious kind of music is playing and there's all these reaction shots. But what's missing from that particular element is you don't know what's in it like there's not it's hinted at but it's not enough to be like what are they specifically reading and i make i'm sure it's something they'll definitely cover in the next episode but it's this extended sequence of just like what am i supposed to be following here? What are my feelings towards this? I'm also not sure whether I, not only that I don't like the characters,

but I don't care about those characters because the Steve Carell character in it, he plays it interestingly because he's kind of sleazy but unaware. He thinks he's kind of not in the wrong, but he clearly is, at least in some elements. There might be some truth to what he's saying. I think that's what's interesting about it and why it keeps me hooked in because you're never really sure if anybody is the good guy or the bad guy. You know, and Steve Carell's character,

they haven't just gone the traditional line of, well, he assaulted people and therefore he is a bad guy and the villain of the piece. You kind of do get a real sense of what, I was going to say Rachel's character, but Jennifer Astin, her character is feeling, because she was his co-host for 15 years, and so you do kind of get this feeling that you're unsure about whether or not he's genuinely a terrible person or whether he's a sleazebag. Or he's just oblivious, like he doesn't think he's doing damage person or whether he's a sleazebag.

Or he's just oblivious, like he doesn't think he's doing damage. Yeah, he is a sleazebag. And he obviously has done things that are wrong in the way that he's developed sexual relationships outside of his marriage with women in the workplace. And he's also, his marriage like sucks anyway. So that's not even the issue. The issue is kind of the way that the other staff treat the people

that he's having the affairs with. Yeah, relationships and also the way he goes about kind of drawing these women in and kind of destroying their sense of self-worth and self-esteem. So you're sort of not really sure where it's going, but in some cases you sort of feel a little bit sorry for him. Yeah. It's very confusing.

I think it's okay, though, to write to see him as despicable, which he is, and a lot of the characters are because Jennifer Aniston knows a lot about this stuff. And that's an interesting plot point too. I think they really explore how, yes, maybe like in Harvey Weinstein's case, he's the fall guy and he obviously was the main perpetrator and it's obviously not the same as Steve Carell's character in this show because Harvey Weinstein was also, you know, a sexual abuser.

Yeah, we've talked about this before. There's degrees of this obviously. However, I think when you really look into the Harvey Weinstein case and similar to this, there's a culture around a person like this that allows things to happen. Absolutely, yeah. And they do really explore that. I think part of the problem though too is that they've tried

to lay out all of this gravitas on what is ostensibly a morning show, puff television show. I don't know if that is the problem either because I think whatever you're doing, the stakes are high. Whatever your job is, you're trying to keep that job, you're trying to do a good job, you know, you're trying to survive. Yeah. So I don't think the stakes are high whatever your job is you're trying to keep that job you're trying to do a good job you know you're trying to survive yeah so i don't think the stakes are the problem i think the framing of it is just it's a skew and i'm not exactly sure what it is because

sometimes it feels right yeah it does i think there's a problem in the edit and i think this could be a score this could write itself because there are moments like i, that it's brilliant and it plays really well and there's other moments that it's just like what is this? And occasionally the characters do things that you think, I don't know if that quite fits. Yeah. But there's also really interesting moments. There's a point where all the female staff members go together

and have some drinks at a bar and the way they kind of have an argument and talk about Steve Carell's character is really interesting and different stakeholders and you think, yeah, that would actually happen in real life. If your boss had found to be, you know, if it had all come out and he'd been fired in such a dramatic way, then, yeah, different people would have different – some people would be like, sleazeball, gross, don't feel sorry for him,

and someone else who'd worked with him for 15 years. Well, he never did anything to me and it was always whatever. Yeah, exactly, or there's a staff member who actually did have a relationship with him for a time and it's obvious that she doesn't feel taken advantage of. She was in love with him. Yeah. But then she's also, as you can see across her face, trying to unpick whether her being in love with him actually clouded

her judgment and maybe he did take advantage of her. And you can see she's trying to explore that. So that's really interesting. I'm still going to watch it. And I find also really fascinating that, like, he's trying to find a way back and one of his answers is, I want to do, like, a sit-down chat with people who, people like me who have kind of been cancelled.

And, like, the answer is, like, you're not the person to kind of to lead this discussion like i think it's important for people like that to be involved and we've talked about how you know to a certain extent there should be like rehabilitation and people learn from things that they've and obviously then and then there's always like cases like the harvey weinstein and criminals who should be in jail so yeah and so it – so things like that I think is really interesting that he thinks that he should still be the forefront of this thing. It's just – yeah, look, obviously we've got a lot kind of to say about it.

And I've been looking forward to each episode. But what I find really interesting is when I was watching this, I was also watching Total Control. And in some ways the plot lines, I mean, they're very different shows, but there's similarities in some of the themes. And Total Control is just so much better, I think. Yeah. And also because the gravitas of the issues are so huge.

And I think, you know, they deal with themes of, you know, deaths in custody of young Indigenous women and the case that they look at is just so terribly sad and happening in our country as we speak and abuse of police and guards within prison systems. And so when you're looking at that and the gravitas of that. Something gravitas. I know. I keep saying gravitas.

I don't know why I've decided. I never use that word. Anyway, I'm trying to think of another way of saying it, the seriousness of those stories, the weight of those stories and the importance of people understanding those stories. And then you're like watching The Morning Show, which is still playing the same kind of dramatic music, but it's just like will she lose her million-dollar contract

and maybe have to sell her condo in Malibu? You know, it doesn't have the same weight. Anyway. But again, I don't have the same weight. Yeah. Anyway. But again, I don't think that's the problem though because I think, yeah, you can make the stakes whatever. Yeah, I agree. In The Mandalorian, it's whether he can get a hairy egg from a space rhino and the stakes are just as high.

I tried to watch that and I fell asleep. You need to not watch things before you go to bed because I think you actually could enjoy it. All right. Yeah. Anyway, that's either here nor there. Anyway, this has been Suggestible. Goodbye, everybody.

No, we've got to recommend some things first. We did that already. You mean the people who write in and recommend things? Yes. Actually, people can. Reviewing the show helps in a big, bad way. A big, bad way. You can do this right on app.

This is from Senator48. He's given it a five-star review, and I appreciate that. The title is, Reminds Us Why We're Married. It says, Suggestible is the soundtrack of our Saturday morning errands. My wife and I listen weekly for great suggestibles framed by rapid fire and affectionate banter. We laugh a lot and are often touched by the insightful viewpoints offered. Claire and James are our Australian kindred spirits

and remind us weekly why we love each other and have been soulmates and best friends for 23 hours. No, years. 23 years. Bloody hell. What were their names? That's from Senator48. Senator48.

Well, I don't know your names, but that is bloody amazing. And wife. Congratulations on 23 years. Yeah, that's terrific. That is bloody awesome. Oh, now I'm all emosh. I on 23 years. Yeah, that's terrific. He's bloody awesome. Oh, now I'm all emosh. I'm the same. All right.

I've got to put my emotions aside. I'll keep moving forward. This is a recommendation. You can recommend us stuff on at SuggestiblePod on Instagram or Facebook or Twitters. We love to hear from you. And this is by Nick Van Gorp. I've probably said your name completely wrong. How many E's in Nick?

N-I-E-K. N-I-E-K, yeah. Nick? Nick. Nick. Yeah. Nick Van Gorp. What a cool name.

I probably said that totally wrong. No, you nailed it. Excellent. Hi, love suggestible bloody five out of five. Right back at you, mate. I wanted to suggest Daniel Sloss, his latest show, X. It's on HBO, but his previous two shows were on Netflix. I've been looking forward to that. Yeah, those are quite

brutal, but I think this new show really is something a lot of guys should hear see since it deals with, for instance, toxic masculinity and how this affects the rest of your life. This then spirals into a way more severe topic. I didn't want to spell the ending, but normally his shows are 75% good fun and then about 25% making a point with some decent shock comedy in there. There's a very good chance we've seen this because we saw him at the comedy festival. Yeah.

So we might have actually seen this show or an early version of it. Yeah, he's brilliant. I really like Daniel Sloss. Yeah, I do too. He's friends with Will Anderson and other comedians that we know. Yeah, he does a great interview with Will Anderson on Willosophy, Will's other podcast. Yeah. Yeah, really good and he's great. Yeah, and he's like good friends with like the little. Yeah, he does a great interview with Will Anderson on Willosophy, Will's other podcast. Yeah.

It's, yeah, really good and he's great. Yeah, and he's like good friends with like the little dum-dum guys or whatever and like toured with them and stuff like that. So he toured anyway. So, yeah, I agree. He does come at it from like an interesting perspective I feel. Because one of those things where like people might be like, well, it's just another bloody white guy talking about bloody masculine.

But he's got some interesting things to say. And I will say that if we just decide to like exclude white men from discussion. I agree. We should. Wait, what are we talking about? No, but that's so ridiculous. Like we just, it's not about excluding people.

It's just about including everyone. Yeah, I agree. I think there is room for literally everybody to have a television show or podcast. Oh, and just before we finish, just quickly, our Planet Broadcasting Fundraiser is finishing tomorrow, which this will go out tomorrow. So it'll be finishing the day of release.

But you'll still have time to donate if you would like to. We would love you to. We're almost at bloody $100,000. Somebody must have put in a bunch of money. Yeah, and we are blown away. I actually just got a message from Nick Mason that was like, have you seen this? And I'm like, I've seen this, Nick Mason.

Stay out of my bloody messages. Yeah, it's bloody incredible. So that is going towards the Seaweed Regeneration Project through Intrepid and the University of Tasmania. They're regrowing our kelp forests at the bottom of Tassie and we love it because that's one of the ways that we can sequester carbon from the atmosphere. So if you, like me, are feeling depressed about the state of the world and the bushfires that are happening at the moment,

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That's it. I hope so. Oh, I'm at ClaireToronto on Insta if you want to follow me over there. And you're at MrSundayMovies. Keep me up at ClaireToronto on Insta. Give me a like. Yeah, I do put a lot of pics of you over there. You do.

There's more photos of me on your Instagram than there is mine. Yeah, I know. I love the gram. I don't really like any other things, but I love the gram. She loves a gram of Coke. All right. Let's get out of here. Only a gram a day. That's quite a lot. He love the gram. I don't really like any other things, but I love the gram. She loves a gram of Coke. All right, let's get out of here. Only a gram a day.

That's quite a lot. Keeps the doctor at bay. I don't think it does. All right. Bye, everybody. Bye. This podcast is part of the Planet Broadcasting Network. Visit planetbroadcasting.com for more podcasts from our great mates.

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