Suggestible - The Lost City

Episode Date: June 9, 2022

Suggestible things to watch, read and listen to. Hosted by James Clement @mrsundaymovies and Claire Tonti @clairetonti.This week’s Suggestibles:01:30 Chris Evans Tap Dancing02:43 Sausage Meatballs Recipe07:37 Chicken Schnitzel Rice Recipe09:31 The Lost City17:10 Tonts with Jess Perkins18:05 Ruby Red Shoes by Kate Knapp23:46 Good Bones Poem28:41 The Original Reading32:29 Fresh34:00 Chris Hemsworth Waltzing AboutSend your recommendations to [e-mail], we’d love to hear them.You can also follow the show on Instagram, Twitter, Facebook @suggestiblepod and join our ‘Planet Broadcasting Great Mates OFFICIAL’ Facebook Group. So many things. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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I don't know. Sorry, it got weird. Is it Bing Bong Crosby? Yeah, it must be. No, that's more like. Kind of that. Right? I'm dreaming.

I don't know. I'm not a fan. Honestly, I don't think he's very talented. All right. Well, I. He's overrated actually. I feel like quite a few people would disagree with you there. I loved Bing Crosby.

Have you actually watched any of his films? Yeah, I watched. No. That is the answer to that. No, I watched Robin and the Seven Hoods. Okay, well, yeah, that's where you're going wrong. No, I actually do like him. He's great. Oh, my God.

He's so much part of my childhood. Him and Bob Hope and Fred Astaire. Oh, yeah. Ginger Rogers, Audrey Hepburn. Mm-mm. Ooh. Anyone good, though? Anyone people actually know and remember?

All right, calm down. Anyone who's on TikTok? Nerd boy. Just because you don't appreciate people singing and dancing. That's true. As opposed to people hitting each other with pretend swords. Well, you know, Claire, there's not that much of a difference between choreography in fights and music.

For example, Chris Evans. It's too music and he's very beautiful. I'm shushing you. And fun and enjoyable. The patriarch. I'm shushing you. And fun and enjoyable. The patriarch is here to shush you. What I will say just before you continue is that I've realised recently that you dance like you can't hear the music. That makes me laugh.

Continue. Fantastic. While you put on your make-up like you're blind. If we're getting catty, Claire. No, you look great. But Chris Evans, who plays Captain America, is amazing at fight choreography and remembering moves because he has a background in tap dance.

I love that. Where can I see him tap dancing? Where can you see him? Can I see? Surely on the depths of the internet you'll throw a woman a bone and let me see Chris Hemsworth tap dancing. No, not Hemsworth. What did I say?

Chris Evans. He's the Captain America guy. Oh, no, that's less exciting. Isworth. What did I say? Chris Evans. He's the Captain America guy. Oh, no, that's less exciting. Is it? I'm not really into Chris Evans. What's wrong with him? No, you think he's like super handsome. Every time you see him, you're like, oh, look at this handsome man.

No, I don't think you understand what's attractive. I think you don't understand what's attractive. What are you talking about? No, Chris Hemsworth, delicious. Chris Evans, nah. What are you talking about? Nah, no. Chris Hemsworth, delicious. Chris Evans, nah. What are you talking about? Nah. No, you're wrong.

I mean, look, don't get me wrong. I wouldn't throw him out of bed for farting or something. Okay. But nah, he's too clean. Actually, this is terrible. I am objectifying these two particular men and I should not because men have been doing that for centuries for women and I should not be doing the same.

It's true. Or should I be just to, you know, make the scales of the universe all back in balance? Fair enough. All right, should we get into this then? We should. We should. Can I do mine first?

Yeah, I would love to. Because it's relevant to this discussion of men and women. Great. And particularly men. Let's do it. I have a recipe for sausage Great. And particularly men. Let's do it. I have a recipe for sausage meatballs. Oh, sausage. Very good.

All right. So bear with me, listeners. I was on my way to the supermarket trudging along in the rain and winter. Not everything has to be a story. Just read the recipe. No, this whole point is to build the ambience. This is my least favourite type of recipe book. It's like, you know, I often sometimes when I have this on a cold winter night

and it actually reminds me of, shut up, what are the ingredients? And then sometimes the method is like within like just blocks of text and it's like give me the list of things and then give me like very basic instructions on how to make the thing. And then this is the difference between me and you because you don't understand that recipe books can just be read like novels and no one is ever actually going to make anything in them. What a ridiculous, ridiculous concept.

No, because you just don't understand food. This goes back to our age-old argument about the fact that you don't really love food like I love food. Oh, my God. Because it goes back into like atmosphere. What are you, the food police? Atmosphere. Food is also about like textures and colours and scent.

Oh, is it? The time of the day that you eat it in and the way your body feels and like you're sitting eating a sunny egg in a little pool of sunlight. I don't know. I fucking love it. Just back off. You love weird stuff. Yeah, I like weird stuff.

You're very specific with your likes. I'm very specific with mine. I feel like mine are better than yours. But why is yours more acceptable? Exactly. Why is that the case? Because mine are good for you and good for your soul and body. Oh, really?

And yours seem to be withering away a lot of angry men on the internet. That's not true. I'm playing the game Sniper Elite 5 at the moment. Just like killing pretend people. Yes, Claire. Great. Excellent. Good.

Good. You're really winning my argument for me. I'm a big chunk of today and then afterwards I'm like, I feel bad. Why do I feel so bad? Maybe because I didn't go to the gym and I played PlayStation for two hours. Just like killing people.

Yeah. Yeah, possibly. Nazis aren't going to shoot themselves except for Hitler who did shoot himself. Can I tell you my sausage recipe? Great. Just the recipe, yes. No, no.

Well, this show is not just for you, James, just because you don't enjoy this story. Maybe other James, just because you don't enjoy this story. Maybe other people. Just because you don't enjoy this show. Well, look, let's not. Yeah, that's probably true. Anyway, let's be bygones be bygones. Let them be bygones.

And let me continue. All right. Don't throw a bird in a bush. I won't. Have two ones in your hand. All right. Sausage meatball. Now you've ruined it i was

painting picture we were okay so i was trudging along as all parents are it's almost dinner time and you're just trudging with your face down it's having a judge rain it's cold you're like i don't want to fuck to make dinner and it happens every day every god damn day someone needs to eat dinner yes and nobody knows what to cook ever. I feel like unless you're like a unicorn person who always has like fresh prawns from the market available in their fridge, most people are just scrambling around in the dirt and who knows what, being like what do I eat for dinner?

And usually it ends up being the same three or four recipes on repeat. Right. And it's annoying but it's because that's what you do. And you go to the supermarket with all the choices and you're like, I don't know, I'm just going to get this same bag of frozen peas and some fish fingers. So depressing. Right, right, right.

Anyway, I went to this local shop on the way and the woman in there was so lovely and we got talking. I bought a lovely beanie with a pom-pom on it and it was very cheerful. And then she said, hey, just in case you're on the way to the supermarket to buy dinner for your kids. And I was like, absolutely I am. She said, let me give you two recipes to save you your life a little. I was like, yes, thank you, woman with big pink earrings on.

You're all fabulous. My husband will hate me retelling this story on a podcast, but I'll continue on. Wow. Anyway, basically what she suggested was two cool ones. One is sausage meatballs. So you get your sausages, just plain ones, nothing fancy. You peel the skins off, you chop them up. I didn't even roll them into balls. I literally just chop them up, put them in polpa mutti, which is just like crushed in tomatoes, but the best brand if you live in Australia.

They're additive free. They are additive free. They're delicious and just you don't need to add anything else, like literally nothing, not even salt and pepper. In the pan, in goes the sausages. Now I was like this is a bit gross, like raw sausages straight into the tomatoes. She's like trust me, it'll be fine. And it was fine. They just browned up and poached in the tomato sauce, made some rice,

steamed some broccoli, Bob's your uncle, and was it a hit? Did our children actually eat it? They're still talking about it. They certainly did. They are. Still talking about it. It was amazing. And even for the two-year-old, she could pick it up, bite-sized portions,

easy, great, loved it. It's got all the things in there that they enjoy in one delicious dish. Correct. And it took like 15 minutes. Incredible. Amazing. So easy. Plus it's got veggies and protein. Which is And it took like 15 minutes. Incredible. Amazing. So easy. Plus it's got your veggies, your protein.

Which is taking longer than the actual recipe. Okay. The other one, you're so annoying. And the other one, there are parents on this show who are applauding me right now and there are many that are probably like, can she just move along? Anyway, the second recipe is a bowl. It's plain white rice with chicken schnitzel that you can pre-buy from the supermarket.

Who's got time to make your schnitzel? You can if you like. I've done it. I used to do it a bit. Now I don't, but I used to do it. No, that's what I'm saying. We're parent trudging. We're trudging down the road of parenthood.

We love our children, but we're trudging. And so we like slice up the chicken schnitzel with that on top of the white rice. Then we put some kubi mayo. We get some seaweed from the supermarket. Wow. And like kind of crackle that up a little bit. Then you put some cucumber in there and other sorted veggies

or some lettuce, whatever you so choose. Sesame seeds if you're feeling fancy. And that's it. And it was so easy and it was like we were on like a pretend trip to Japan, children, and it was delightful. It certainly was. We're all like, wow, what an experience, we all said. This was just like having an overseas holiday.

To Japan. Anyway, that's it. That's my two recipes. They're my gifts to you. I haven't done a recipe in a long time. And I thought I would give those to the parents out there who are struggling like me. And James is hating it. But that's okay. No, I'm having a great time. I'm just bringing up my next suggestion. out there who are struggling like me. And James is hating it.

But that's okay. No, I'm having a great time. I'm just bringing up my next suggestion. No, I do like everything. Do you know what I like more than anything else? That never a less truer word was said. No, that's not true. Name one thing I don't like.

Everything. This podcast. Okay, that's fair. Sunlight. Okay, fine. Early mornings. You happen to name four to five things off the top of your head. Yep, true.

Things that you do with other people. Yep, that's right. People coming to your house. Okay. Having to go to someone's people. Yep, that's right. People coming to your house. Okay. Having to go to someone's house. Yep, that's true. Picking up your son from school. I don't mind that.

All right. Yeah, no, that's true. You don't mind that. But you leave immediately. Yeah. You don't want to talk to anyone. I'll talk to a few people. No matter that.

You want to hang around. You'd hang around for the rest of the day. You'd hang around until it's dark. I would. I would. Awful. Yeah, because they're great. They're all good, nice people.

I like to talk. I like a chat. I know you like to talk. I like a chat. I know you like a chat. I like a chitty chat. Do you like a movie? Do you like a comedy movie? You know what? I'm starting to get over movies.

What about this movie? It's called The Lost City. It's a 2022. You lost me. Action. Action. It's a movie. Comedy adventure directed by the Knee Brothers starring Sandra Bullock and Channing Tatum.

You've been waiting for me to watch it and I still haven't watched it. That's fine. Well, I went ahead and I watched it without you. I know. I had a delightful time. So Sandra Bullock is a romance novelist. Channing Tatum is the cover model for her romance novels, right? Mm-hmm.

And what that is, she gets kidnapped. That is a very likely scenario. True, by billionaire Daniel Radcliffe, not the actor, like a guy who's playing a billionaire, so he can find the lost city, which she actually describes and deciphers some of the text in one of her books, right? So if you can imagine the movie Indiana Jones, one of them, if you can imagine the movie, have you ever seen Romancing the Stone,

the Indiana Jones knockoff movies from the 80s? No. They're not bad. In what universe would I have seen that? I've seen Indiana Jones. I loved them. It's even a bit of Tropic Thunder kind of thrown in there, right? I actually quite enjoy Tropic Thunder.

It's like one of those kind of throwback like adventure romance movies kind of modernized in the modern day. It's even got a few cameos that you might not expect, Claire. If you've seen the trailer, you'll notice that one Bradley Pitt also appears in the movie. Oh, one said Bradley Pitt. Yes. So it's got like ridiculous fight scenes and chases. And one of the, if you've seen any of the behind the scenes stuff of it, one of the major like showpieces of the movie is the onesie sequined outfit that Sandra Bullock is wearing in the jungle. It's like a really sparkly pink onesie.

Oh, yes, I've seen that. Have you seen any of that? Yeah, so that plays like a big part of it. It's like the worst thing you could possibly be wearing in the jungle. It's got some really funny moments and those two work really well together. They're like a really great pairing. So as mentioned, she's like a romance novelist, but she's also got a background in like archaeology

and she's a historian as well. And he's like a Fabio-style cover model who has no like real world experience or outdoor stuff. So basically like the main plot line of most movies except Reversed. Yeah, I guess it is, yeah. But, you know, of course they both have their shortcomings and also both, you know, they come together for a greater purpose. Yes.

It's a lot of fun. It's already, I think it still is out in cinemas, but it is streaming at the moment if you are so inclined to just watch something and it's like, that's pretty good. I really like that. Do you like Sandra Bullock in The Heat? Yes, I do. With Liz McCarthy? Yes, yes, I like that. Yeah,'s pretty good. I really like that. Do you like Sandra Bullock in The Heat? Yes, I do. With Liz McCarthy.

Yes, yes, I like that. Yeah, she's great. You'll like this. I know. I always loved Sandra Bullock from her Days of While You're Sleeping, which I've watched a thousand times over. What I love about this movie, and I haven't seen it yet, but some of the commentary has made me really think,

because how old is Sandra Bullock now? In her 50s? 54 probably? Correct. Yeah, exactly. And Channing Tatum is what in his? 42. 42. Correct. Exactly? Correct. Yeah, exactly. And Channing Tatum is what in his? 42. 42.

Correct. Exactly. So the dynamic is exactly like. 57. 57. Right. She's nearly 60. Right.

So when you think about. She's nearly as old as Tom Cruise. Tom Cruise or even like a Hugh Jackman or, you know, Indiana Jones man. Indiana Jones man. Yeah. You know, what's his face? Tom Cruise is nearly 60, 60 next month. Harrison Ford.

Thank you very much. My brain had a freeze. Yeah, a million years old. But in their films they have been the love interest to women 20, 30 years younger than them constantly. And most of the time those women have barely any personality and they're very attractive and usually very of a particular body type attractive. Yep.

And they kind of are a bauble to the plot. They're always going like, what do I do now? And that kind of vibe. Yeah. And the guy who is older always gets to save them. And a lot of the time, as we have discussed previously, it feels a lot like Hollywood executives' fantasies being lived out on the screen.

Right, yep. And so what I love about the concept of this is that Sandra Bullock at 57 has ostensibly one of the hottest men playing her romantic lead in a movie. Yeah. And he's what, like how much, almost 20 years younger than her? Yeah, like 15 years younger, yeah. Like great.

That is feminism in action and I am here for it. Yeah, she's like an exception. I think it's also it is becoming rarer and Tom Cruise is the exception that somebody can be like consistently making, you know, good movies at this age like Top Gun, the new one was a recent example of that. But she, I think because she's got so much power at this point that she can now like make things that she. You mean women at that age?

No, I mean also like anybody at that age. It is like rare in general but it is more common with men. For men. I don't agree with that. No, but what I'm saying is like Harrison Ford, he makes like Indiana Jones and Star Wars movies and those movies do really well. But everything else he makes, they're not big movies anymore.

I think Tom Cruise like is an exception. No, but what I would say is that there is still a huge amount more of, may not be the big blockbuster films, but if he wants to work, he can work. I completely agree. But I think, and I'm hopeful it's changing, but I still think if you are Sandra Bullock's age in general, unless you are someone like her who's super powerful,

very funny and has somehow managed to break through, plus she's also had a lot of work done. Sure. Kind of depressingly, but anyway. No,'s also had a lot of work done. Sure. Kind of depressingly. But anyway. No, man, what are you going to do? You know, but there's a whole swathe of women in that bracket between say 40 to 65, 60, where they then start to play

like your Maggie Dench, you know, whatever, roles. Judy Dench or Maggie Smith. I just did a combo of them. But, you know, they're always saying they're competing with the same roles. You know, there's this massive dearth of roles for women. And guys get to play different roles all the way through. They can be working all the way through. I disagree that it's the same.

No, I didn't say it's the same. What I'm saying is it is rare but it is more common for men. Oh, my God. Yeah, every second movie I see. Aging movie stars and because the movie stars are also kind of different from what they used to be. Brands are now what is kind of big as opposed to individual actors now. Does that make sense?

No. IP like sells movies as opposed to stars. You mean like the Star Wars franchise? Yeah, Star Wars. Like even Top Gun, even though like Tom Cruise is the lead in it, like that's one of the main points of that movie is that it's a sequel to a movie that isn't very good but people like. Yeah, I see what you mean.

Yeah. I think the solution for women in this space in general, because also there's a massive inequity in the amount of directors and writers who are women, right? Definitely. And one of my pet hates is that a woman will write a film or direct a movie and it will be not great and people go like, well, see, women shouldn't be writing that.

And it's such ridiculousness because there's been a thousand movies written by guys who are also terrible. Name one. Top Gun. No, I quite really enjoyed Top Gun. New Top Gun? New new top gun i haven't seen that either but you know original top as i went back to my previous point i'm not into movies in the moment my brain's like too long too hard but you'll watch a tv series correct i mean

eight episodes of a tv series every night certainly will certainly will that show better things oh mate i'm still watching it and it's just it's getting worse and worse and making me more and more sad even though it's super funny, but I can't stop watching it. And I come out of it like super emotional every night. It's really – anyway, it's a whole other thing. Anyway, enough of my ranting about the lack of equity in film. I think everything's the same and everything's fine. But things are improving slowly.

I actually did an episode of Tons on this with Jess Perkins. Yes. In my very first season. So if you're interested in inequity in film and things have changed now, obviously still things are progressing more so, but we did talk a lot about that in my episode with Jess Perkins back last year, Tons season one, or was it the year before? Who knows? Time is a construct. It was it the year before? Who knows?

Time is a construct. It certainly is. All right. My turn? Yeah. Cool. That sounds like a really good movie actually. It's really good.

You should watch it. Thank you for recommending that. You'll never watch it, but it's good. No, I will. No, I genuinely am going to because the Tatum is also great. The Tatum. The Tatum. He's good looking, right?

Yes, correct. Yeah, good. 100%. He gets his bod out as well for this one. Right. If you're loving that. You didn't tell me that. I would have watched it immediately.

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Will it be objectifying here? Is it a book, Claire? It is. I've bought in a book. I know. Okay. So going on the theme of helping parents out with particular books. Physical book. Yuck. Okay. So annoying. I have brought in the first book. Put it here. Oh, my God. Can you stop?

This is actually brought by my beautiful mum for my daughter but I think it's just it would be lovely. Can I get through a sentence? I'm sorry, I'll stop now. I'll stop. It's actually kind of cool and I've got some interesting facts for you about this. I love facts.

I know. So it's called Ruby Red Shoes by Kate Nape and Kate Nape is an Australian illustrator and author. So she writes and illustrates these books and she also has her own studio called Twig Seeds as well where she does like a whole lot of different beautiful character illustrations. She works mainly in watercolour, ink and pencil. And what I thought was interesting, unlike a lot of things now

that are all done digitally, she still does this completely by hand, which she said is incredibly nerve-wracking because if you, like watercolour is completely unforgiving. So if you make one tiny mistake, the whole thing's ruined. The whole thing's done, yeah. So if you have a look at this artwork. This is actually, I have been flicked at this. It's actually beautiful.

It's really beautiful. I joke and I jest. Do you? You joke and jest? Who knew? Yeah, so it's called Ruby Red Shoes and it stars one aware hair, which is obviously the title, Ruby Red Shoes, and she's a hair, a white hair who wears beautiful dresses

and little red shoes. And these books have been published around the world and she's a hair, a white hair who wears beautiful dresses and little red shoes. And these books have been published around the world and have grown a devoted following amongst children and adults alike. So what Kate says about this book is that being in a wear hair means cultivating awareness of the world around you as well as inside you. Awareness and care of self, the community and our earth. These messages are delivered gently through detailed illustrations and charming stories. So the first book doesn't have a lot of story in it. It's more just introducing the reader to the world. Yeah. And the world is so intricate.

And when you see the paintings, they're so beautiful. And Ruby's actually lost her parents. So the first book doesn't really detail that other than to say that she lives with her grandmother in a beautiful painted caravan and she spends most of her time gardening outdoors and painting and sitting in big chairs. I know it's so cute reading, riding little bicycles. She has chickens in a little hen house, which she teaches how to play soccer with the passion fruit and she teaches them French. This is Australian, yeah, you've said that. Yeah, it's Australian. Yeah, I think she's from Queensland. This is Australian, yeah, you've said that. Yeah, it's Australian, yeah. I think she's from Queensland.

And what else is so lovely about it is that she says she wrote Ruby in her studio. She kind of appeared when she was painting one day and she realised she made her as a friend for children but also for adults too to kind of live in a little magical, beautiful world that is quite simple and connected to nature, connected to art and connected to love. And she has these big kind of gorgeous armchairs. And so our daughter loves the fact that Ruby always has a bath in this big pink clawfoot bath. And it's just super glorious and really deep. And the tea is made in these big, gorgeous mugs. And

it's just so beautiful and she has a whole cupboard of red shoes. And so that's the first book, Ruby Red Shoes, and then she goes to Paris and London and has some other adventures as well. Oh, cool. Yeah, so there's currently eight books in the series. So what's so lovely about Ruby as a character is she follows her passions in her day-to-day life, things like gardening and commuting with the stars, daydreaming or reading a story with her grandmother. And it's kind of about nourishing her spiritual, mental, emotional, physical wellbeing. And I think that's why when I read it, as much as my daughter loves it for all the funny

little chickens and the gorgeous garden and everything, it's also kind of like messages about what is actually good for us as people and human beings. That's cool. And I just really love that. So, yeah, she's written it for children but also for adults as well for that reason because they do feel like a little bit of an escape in lots of ways. So, yeah, I just really love that idea.

Anyway, so Kate Nape and they would make absolutely gorgeous gifts for kids in your life. Oh, absolutely. I think any kid. I think you would have loved this as a kid as well. Oh, my God, totally. I would have loved, yes, absolutely. And you can find her website as well, Kate Nape.

Oh, no, it's rubyredshoes.com.au actually. And you can order all kinds of things from there too. She does prints from the books and she also has little toys and things too that you can purchase. So she's just a really gorgeous illustrator. She's got like no social media either, I've noticed. No, I know, which is kind of amazing. She does have one for Ruby.

Okay. Yeah, so like this is her Instagram account, rubyredshoes. Oh, cool. Okay, well, that makes sense. Yeah, so she doesn is her Instagram account, Ruby Red Shoes. Oh, cool. Okay, well, that makes sense. Yeah, so she doesn't really have that much about her. Have you reached out to interview her? No, no, I haven't. But I would love to.

And I just love she's sort of created this whole magical community around that idea of being an aware hair, so just being aware of others and being kind and compassionate and all those beautiful things. So, yeah, that's it. Great. That's really nice. What a lovely suggestion. Thank you. Are you ready for me to blow your mind, Claire? I certainly am. Oh, just one final thing. Kate Nape is spelled Kate, K-N-A-P-P. Yeah. Canap? Canap. It's Canap. Kate Canap. All right. Go on. It's Nape. Is it Nape? Huh?

Is it pronounced Nape? Yeah. Nap. Nap. Okay, cool. Here we go. I wish I could have a nap. My brain's like short-circuited.

You and me both. Now, Claire, I've brought a poem. I shouldn't have done that when you were drinking. You're having a big sip of water. It could have been a big spit-take moment. But I've actually brought in what are you? I don't know whether you've heard of this, but this poem was actually called The Official Poem of 2016

by BBC slash Public Radio International. Oh, you really have put in a poem? Yes, this isn't a joke, Claire. Oh, jeez. It's only short. Do you mind if I read it? All right. Are you sure?

I'm not sure. This isn't a joke. I literally have a poem. All right. I saw this on Twitter'm not sure. This isn't a joke. I literally have a poem. All right. I saw this on Twitter and it really spoke to me genuinely. I'm not even kidding and I'm going to read it right now. All right. Okay.

Okay. Oh, God. All right. It's called Good Bones by Maggie Smith, not the actor Maggie Smith, the poet and writer Maggie Smith. Okay. I feel like you're better at reading poetry than I am. This is not my wheelhouse at all. Okay. Life is short, though I keep this from my children.

Life is short and I've shortened mine in a thousand delicious ill-advised ways. A thousand deliciously ill-advised ways I'll keep from my children. The world is at least 50% terrible, and that's a conservative estimate, though I keep this from my children. The world is at least 50% terrible and that's a conservative estimate, though I keep this from my children. For every bird, there is a stone thrown at a bird. For every loved child, a child broken, bagged, sunk in a lake. Life is short and the world is at least half terrible and for every kind stranger, there is one who would break you, though I keep this from my children. I'm trying to sell them the world. Any decent realtor walking you through a real shithole chirps

on about good bones. This place could be beautiful, right? You could make this place beautiful. Oh, I love that poem. You know it? It's so famous. Yeah. I figured you would know it, yeah.

But I saw it on Twitter and I'm like, Jesus Christ. know it, yeah. But I saw it on Twitter and I'm like, Jesus Christ. Like, it's like horrifying and beautiful and I'd never heard of it, obviously. And yeah, it was amazing. It really hits you. Yeah. Yeah. What did it make you think about? Well, it made me think about how, yeah, a lot of things are terrible and a lot of your job as a parent, as the poem mentioned, this is a pretty surface level evaluation, is like keeping those things from your kids, not making them like blind to the dangers of the world, but sheltering them from

a lot of it until maybe they are ready for it, if that makes sense. Or you think that they're ready for it because they're going to get hit with it eventually. And it's about kind of like revealing that information kind of slowly over time and, you know, kind of giving them the skills to navigate the world and, you know, realise that people aren't or people don't always have good intentions and some do but you don't know often, you know. You kind of just have to take a punt sometimes either way, you know. Yeah, and that's the thing of being human, right? It certainly is.

As beautiful it is, it's also as terrible. So this was, I wasn't going to say, so Good Bones, apparently it was, went viral in the aftermath of the Orlando nightclub shooting. And she went to find a way to channel the angst created watching her children growing up in an increasingly conflicted world. So that was kind of the initial idea behind it for like such a terrible and tragic and violent event and kind of, yeah, trying to get something, you know, and this is what came from it. Anyway, I thought it was genuinely amazing.

Yeah. Yeah. I know. I've always loved that poem. I'm not surprised it speaks to you because it basically says your premise which is the world is terrible. Yeah, and I just love also the bit about how, like, life is short and I've shortened mine.

Yes, correct. Where you tell, like, your kids to be a certain way and eat a certain way. Yeah, and you're like – And I think about, like, some of the stupid things. In, like, a thousand delicious ill-advised ways or something. And totally, and actually that that's also a part of it. Yeah. That at a certain point you're allowed to make decisions

that sometimes will be bad for you but they kind of can sometimes be really great in the moment. You should wear sunscreen from when you're very young. Correct. It might not necessarily be something like heroin, which is something I have not tried, but it can be as simple as wearing sunscreen. Correct, exactly.

But, yeah, it is that whole idea, isn't it, that this world that we're, there's just so much about it that's so horrible that you still exist in it and you can still see what's so beautiful about it. Exactly. And she also said, to see people from walks of life reading and sharing this poem as a medicine in the midst of tragedy is my definition of success. So there you go.

James, who even are you? Now I love poetry. I finally, I wish there was somebody in my life who could have introduced poetry to me. It took a viral tweet for me to be brought into the world of poetry and I'll be forever thankful to that particular viral tweet for this and nobody else. Can I? I'm going to have to break this to you. What?

I've already read this poem on Suggestions. No, you haven't. Is that true? Yes, I certainly have. Oh, my God. Probably is a great poem. And I wasn't going to tell you because I felt bad because I'm so delighted that you brought it in and that it speaks to you,

and I loved your take on it, and I loved your reading of it, and it was so great. But I brought it in. No, I don't think so. Yes, definitely. No, I saw it on Twitter. But I will take that as a win for poetry. Now that you mention it, I do remember that.

And you did say to me, oh, my God, I actually love that poem. Wow, there you go. I like one poem. Anyway, send your poems. Send your weird, depressing poems to suggestablepod at gmail.com. I am so delighted that I somehow kind of like secretly implanted that poem in your head. No, no, no, no, no, no, Claire.

I just want to clarify I do not remember the poem until I saw a tweet and that's what really lit it up for me. You know what I mean? Yeah, that's true. It doesn't light up until you see it on your medium of choice. Thank God for Elon Musk for purchasing Twitter, which I don't know if you saw, but that deal has officially gone through.

And he's, no, that's not. He backed away from it, shockingly. Oh, Hazzy, I missed that. I've just literally. He's like, actually, I don't want this, but it's also like, it's either you don't have the money or you've realised that you don't want to run a social media platform because it would be a fucking nightmare.

And it doesn't make money. Why would you pay that much for it? What is wrong with you? No, and it really doesn't. I don't think it makes that much money nightmare. And it doesn't make money. Why would you pay that much for it? What is wrong with you? No, and it really doesn't. I don't think it makes that much money, does it? No, it doesn't. No. Yeah.

And also because then you're the arbitre of perceived free speech and then he's going to have everybody yelling at him all the time and now only half the people of the world yell at him. And what is he going to do with the money he was going to buy Twitter with? Probably nothing. I don't think he has it. Like honestly, I don't think – or not liquid anyway. Yeah.

Just a fraction of it could fix everything, could make this place with good bones actually have good bones. Nah. Have more than just good bones. It's like the time he said he could solve world hunger. If there was only a plan to solve world hunger, he'd give $6 billion. I know. I know. I know.

I know this. It's so annoying. There was a plan. Remember when you told me about that when you woke up in the morning and then I had a massive rant about Elon Musk and I cried? No, that didn't happen. That was good. I did see people upset about it on Twitter, though.

That's where I get all my information. Claire, did you know, actually, speaking of social media, in a way reviewing a podcast is the best way to reach out on social media, just like PhD Kermit Frog has written in with a five-star review. They just did it in-app on their platform of choice. It says old boots. It says these married old boots switch between playful banter and profound discussions all while operating at only 40%.

We're basically, oh, mate, that was an excellent review. I haven't called him an old boot in a while. I don't know about that. I'm cutting him some slack. So, yeah, thank you so much. It really helps out the show. Oh, thank you so much for the review. All right.

I also have an email here. Well, actually, this was an Instagram little DM. But we prefer emails. It's just photogym.com. However, I'll let this slide through because the guy who sent it through is called Matthew the Idiot. Love it. I don't think you're an idiot, Matthew. Well,mail.com. However, I'll let this slide through because the guy who sent it through is called Matthew the Idiot. Love it. I don't think you're an idiot, Matthew.

Well, let's see. No, no. But let's read your suggestable. Hey, Claire, I'm a big fan of suggestable and have a recommendation. Well, you must be an idiot. Just joking, Matthew. Thank you. I'm not the one that re-brought in a poem.

Actually, I'm so glad. Do you know how glad I am? My whole little heart has, like, fully exploded with happiness. Well, I'm glad. That you brought a poem. Yeah. Actually, I'm so glad. Do you know how glad I am? My whole little heart has like fully exploded with happiness. Well, I'm glad. That you brought a poem in. It's made me so happy. Yum, yum. Anyway, back to this.

I'm not sure if I'm supposed to send it here. Matthew, you're not, but that's okay. But it's a movie I think you should look into. It's called Fresh, directed by Mimi Cave. I have seen Fresh. Oh, it's a thriller movie about dating and Sebastian Stan is a bad guy, manipulator, et cetera. I think, did you talk about this?

It's also a highly feminist movie. No, I think I told you not to watch it. With a female director and heavy subtones about it. Also, it's just a great movie that I think might fit the pod. Thanks again. Love the pod. And sorry if this isn't the place for recommendations. It absolutely is not the place for recommendations.

It stars Daisy Edgar-Jonesones who you might know from good, what's that one with the Mary Ann? Mary Ann. Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. That one, that Irish one. Normal People. Normal People. Oh, I still haven't watched because I'm in a deep Better Things

whole, Conversations With Friends, which is the latest series from Sally Rooney. Oh, that's her first novel actually, Sally Rooney's first novel that has been adapted, who also wrote Normal People. That's the connection. And that TV show has come out recently. Is it good, The Conversation with Friends? I have heard really good things.

I have not watched it yet. I am 1,000% excited for People Who Live in the UK, Dolly Alderson's series, Everything I Know About Love, is currently screening tonight on BBC. Well, it will have screened by the time you hear this. And I just am so delighted and I'm hoping that I can use a VPN to watch it on BBC. I wish there was some way we could set that up,

but obviously with the limitations of modern technology, that is not possible. We don't have a sponsor this week, do we? Certainly not. Then it's not possible. All right, that's it. That's it from us. Thank you as always to Rob Collins. Oh, actually, it's not possible. All right. That's it. That's it from us. Thank you as always.

Oh, actually, it's not quite it. It's not quite it. Oh, you had another poem that I read? No, not a poem. Just something to end the show with. What's this? What is it, James? It looks like dancing.

Is that Chris Hemsworth? It's Chris Hemsworth on Australian Dancing with the Stars. I mean, it's not tap dancing, but it's pretty bloody close. He's got some moves. This is pre-Thor. Wow. This would have been like when he was on Home and Away. Oh, this is when he was on Home and Away.

And he was doing like B grade Australian. Look how thin he is. I know. Yes, he's not so bulky. I'm still loving this though. I'm loving it. I'm loving it. Oh, they're dancing in a swishy dress.

I mean, it would have been better if it was tap dancing, but thank you for that. I really appreciate it. Oh, they're dancing in a swooshy dress. I mean it would have been better if it was tap dancing, but thank you for that. I really appreciate it. Well, I just thought you'd want to know. Maybe Collings can link to that below if anyone needs a cheer up after James read Good Bones. I think I was actually the first person to read that poem online. Is that true?

Yes, must be. Great. All right. Anyway. Are you looking forward to jurassic park this week oh no god i have so many movies that i need to catch up on top gun i've been too busy making sausage meatballs and singing songs on instagram what about this what about this claire what is this now okay this is an audience we're doing it. What is this? It's Chris Evans dancing now.

Yeah, I'm not so. See, I'm telling you, you don't understand. I've just not that into. He's too clean cut. He's too clean cut. What's he doing, Running Man? Nah. Why are you so mean to Chris Evans?

All he's ever done is be delightful. I like Chris Evans. I have nothing against Chris Evans. I'm just saying. Chris Hemsworth is, anyway. I don't know why we're still talking about this. I'm not anti-Chris'm just saying. Chris Hemsworth is – anyway. I don't know why we're still talking about this. I'm not anti-Chris Hemsworth. Chris Hemsworth is great.

By the way, if any of these people get cancelled, then I'd disown all of them. But just saying that. All right. Thanks, everybody. Thank you. Thank you as always to Collings for editing this week's episode. You can find us on socials at SuggestiblePod.

We would love you to follow over there. And thank you to Maisie for running those socials. And as a side note, just very quickly, my Instagram, Claire20, is close to 10,000. It's like 300, no, yes, 300 people away from 10,000. And Claire actually has a fear of success. So what she wants people to do is actually unsubscribe from her Instagram.

Is that correct? Will you do it? Yeah. All I'm saying is throw aubscribe from her Instagram. Is that correct? Will you do it? Yeah. All I'm saying is throw a woman some good bones and go follow me on Instagram. She bought her nose on a moron. No, fresh air. You don't have to.

It's mainly me yelling in the kitchen, cooking meatballs, and then singing some songs and then doing some gardening and then putting up my podcast on. But if you feel like it, I'd love you to do that. Terrific. Okay, that's it. Now we're really leaving, for real. Okay, bye.

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