Suggestible - Together and Lego Masters

Episode Date: September 23, 2021

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Starting point is 00:01:04 Maybe it's scrambled from the earthquake we had today. Oh, my God. So I don't know. If you don't live in Melbourne, Australia, you might have still seen it on the news. I'd probably not. It was across the state and other states felt it. This morning I was sitting with my baby, with my baby, when my baby smiles. Anyway, I was sitting on the couch with my baby.
Starting point is 00:01:23 Okay, half a minute to that. That was good. And then the windows started rattling. And what happened to you? I was napping upstairs because I'd been up early with the kids and then the whole room was like shaking and I'm like, is there a strong gust of wind? And then it like kept going and I'm like,
Starting point is 00:01:40 this might be an earthquake actually. I like the hand movements you did there as well. It was like a little shimmy. Yeah. It was weird, wasn't it? The last one was in 2012. It was also so minor as well. Like nobody was killed.
Starting point is 00:01:53 We don't live on a fault line so there's probably people in the world who live on actual areas where earthquakes were like pathetic. Correct. The way that we look at other countries when they're like, look at this spider. I'm like, okay. Yeah. Yeah, it was kind of very strange. It was.
Starting point is 00:02:13 It's just the reminder which makes this sound ridiculous because it's super obvious that like we're standing on a big ball of rock and we have like very little control over it and what things happen. And my body just went into that freeze mode where I was clutching a little baby to my chest and then just sat there. And it just occurred to me that I don't have no idea. Like I know what to do if there was a fire, stop, drop and roll, but I had no idea that you're supposed to leave and exit the building if you're in an earthquake.
Starting point is 00:02:41 But then again, I looked at some pictures in the city and there was rubble that fell off the top of buildings and things. So I don't know if that's entirely the best idea either. Is it door frames? Are we supposed to stand in a door frame? I should have looked it up. No, it says online. My sister sent me an article because we all realised in our family WhatsApp,
Starting point is 00:02:57 all the WhatsApp groups I'm a part of just pinged. Yeah. They pinged, pinged, pinged. She said we should have left the building apparently if there's an earthquake. By the time I left the room, it was over. It was pretty short. And yet again, my dad, as with the last earthquake in 2012, didn't notice. There was an earthquake in 2012.
Starting point is 00:03:14 No one cares about this. I was in one room because we just got back from up north, so I was with my parents. And I walked into the other room and I'm like, is that an earthquake? And he's like, no. And it was. And the same thing happened this year. He didn't feel it, even though it was much bigger.
Starting point is 00:03:30 Anyway, let's suggest some things. All right. Are we going to suggest a thing together today? I think we are. We've got a few things. I've got another Lego thing I want to talk about this week as well. Oh, amazing. Well, how about we do gentlemen's first?
Starting point is 00:03:41 Okay. You can talk about your thing and then we'll do the thing we talked about. Is gentlemen's first not a thing on the show anymore? I feel like it's been thrown by the wayside. It is because I've decided that I want to take over the show, but I'm bringing it back. I'm also bringing back calling you an old boot because it's enjoyable. If the boot fits.
Starting point is 00:03:56 If the boot. If the old boot fits. Well, we're going to talk about this together, and it happens to be a movie called Together, which was written by Dennis Kelly and it was directed by Stephen Daldry and it stars James McAvoy. He's back. Oh, boy.
Starting point is 00:04:13 Oh, boy. People might know him as Professor X. People might know him, the young Professor X, from the movie Wanted. People might know him as that weird mule-legged man from The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe. Or he's a ghost. I don't know. And also Sharon Horgan who is in Catastrophe.
Starting point is 00:04:31 And she's amazing in Catastrophe. She's also in This Way Up, which I think is my favourite show of this year with Aisling Bea. And she's in Game Night. Correct. And interestingly, did you know that writer Dennis Kelly, who wrote this, actually also wrote Pooling, which is Sharon Horgan's kind of debut first kind of breakout TV show
Starting point is 00:04:52 that she wrote a long time ago about being in her 20s? It's interesting because you can definitely see the influences of that and you can also see the influences of Stephen Daldry because his background is in stage. And because, okay, we should talk about what it is. So basically it's about a couple who hate each other, who have like an eight-year-old son, and it spans like the start of the lockdown in the UK as corona like rips through.
Starting point is 00:05:20 Correct, yeah. To now-ish. Correct. And I think we should say up top that we might say a few spoilers. Yeah, a little bit. A little bit. Yeah, not the whole thing, but I think it's important because there's a few things to talk about.
Starting point is 00:05:33 Collings will put a time code below. Correct. Because it begins the day after Prime Minister Boris Johnson announced Britain's first coronavirus lockdown. Yes. And then it unfolds over the course of that year through what happens in London. And it's kind of so close to the bone, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:05:51 Yeah, absolutely. It's like really documenting history. And I find that really interesting. And also kind of their relationship breakdown, right, because they kind of hate each other and they move through hating each other to the traumas of living in such close proximity and that kind of really changes them. And then they deal with some very heavy themes of grief
Starting point is 00:06:11 while they've still got their little boy in the house. Yeah, absolutely. And they kind of find each other through that as well. Yes, that's right. So yeah, it's kind of, they hate each other for a lot of this or no, because even though they do hate each other and they talk about how they hate each other and how they shouldn't or no because even though they do hate each other and they talk about how they hate each other and how they shouldn't have stayed together and then they stay together because they've got a child together or whatever um and various other things you notice like little things that they're like taking care of each other like one they'll be in an argument and like talking to the camera how much they hate each other and one will just like have made the other one a cup of tea and just put in front it's not said like it's not mentioned it's just kind of it's like little things like that like throughout
Starting point is 00:06:49 it's um it's interesting because initially i know you felt this way it did feel a bit staged it felt like a bit of like a theatrical performance because they're talking to the camera a lot which you were like i don't really like the way that they're looking directly at us. But I think in doing that, you kind of get more out of them a lot of the time because they're like, you don't get an inner monologue and you don't get it through their dialogue necessarily with each other. They're like talking to you directly and it feels like a theater production. And I think that also comes from, it's directed by Stephen Daldry and he has a background in theater.
Starting point is 00:07:24 He, including Billy Elliot, both the musical and the movie. And Matilda as well. Yeah, so you can definitely feel a lot of that in this. But I think after the first scene in particular, you kind of settle into it and you settle into the characters and the rhythm of it and maybe it's you getting used to it or the movie kind of, you know, finding its feet,
Starting point is 00:07:44 but it really kind of takes off from there I feel. It really does. I really, I loved how funny it is. It's very darkly funny. Like the kind of lines that they give to each other are like really quite extreme in sort of their proving to the audience how much they hate each other really, I guess. But then also there's some really deeply emotional
Starting point is 00:08:06 and moving moments. Yeah. And I think when they're doing those kind of monologues where it's just them talking to the camera, James McAvoy does some incredibly. McAvoy. Oh, yeah. Amazing.
Starting point is 00:08:17 And I think Sharon Horgan does too. They're both terrific. Yeah. One of the themes, and this is a spoiler, is that Sharon Horgan's mother is in a nursing home. Yeah. It kind of happens at the start. They talk a bit about her as like quite a big character and they made
Starting point is 00:08:29 the decision at the last minute to move her to a nursing home because they thought she would be saved there. And then obviously it rips through and she ends up passing away. But you really get a sense when Sharon Horgan kind of does that monologue about what it was like to go and visit her mother for 15 minutes to say goodbye. Yeah. And what the healthcare workers who were looking after her mother did for them, like by keeping them in touch with her over the phone because obviously she wasn't allowed to go and visit at all. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:59 And so her mother died alone. And that is just so heartbreaking and the idea that you would have to suit up to visit your dying parent for 15 minutes. And I really think they did a really great job of championing the healthcare professionals who are dealing at the coalface of COVID. And you also don't see any other people who's like, it's all set within this house. Exactly. And it does a really good job of just through those conversations and monologues of getting
Starting point is 00:09:28 the sense of, I think one thing it does really well, and you see it with both of them, is like the anger at the complacency. I think we're all feeling that, you know, wherever you are in the world where a lot of people knew this was coming. And like, because even they talk about in this how like they themselves saw it coming and yet why is it that even if they don't have all the information and they were still preparing for this and yet people in power made decisions and didn't act fast enough and because based on popularity as opposed to doing what is the right thing and i think it wasn't
Starting point is 00:10:01 even just popularity i mean the way that they talked about the facts around COVID and what was known by Boris Johnson and the parliamentary team in England, it just shows that they didn't have enough foresight or they didn't care enough to put those measures in place because with something like COVID it grows exponentially. And I think she did such a great job. When she does the numbers. Yeah, of making you understand why time matters
Starting point is 00:10:27 and why locking down after a week rather than locking down after eight weeks actually then results in tens of thousands of people not contracting the virus and people not dying. And so she, I think, did a brilliant job of that. Horgan actually said in an interview that the film was an exercise in bearing witness, in particular to the hidden trauma of families who lost loved ones in nursing homes because more than 39,000 nursing home residents in England died with the virus
Starting point is 00:10:56 between April 2020 and March 2021, according to a study by the Care Quality Commission, which is a government agency, and many of those people, because of visitor restrictions and staff shortages, just died alone. Yeah. And, I mean, that's heartbreaking to hear, but I think it's such an important gift that the film was able to really make you feel the weight of that because sometimes I think
Starting point is 00:11:21 with all of this, if you haven't been personally affected in Australia, we have low case numbers really and so less people have been affected. We've been more like stuck at home, which is a whole other kind of. I mean I'd rather be stuck at home than have my parents die, you know. Exactly. But I think in some ways a lot of us haven't had personal experience of people dying in that way. I mean I know you have as well, but you see it in like a bunch of your group chats.
Starting point is 00:11:48 People are just like, this isn't a big deal and whatever, and it's not even like the case numbers that high. And it's like, yeah, because we've been at home, which sucks. Like I'm not, and there's not enough government support and people are angry and frustrated, which I completely understand. But that is also the reason why a lot of people, and a lot of the rules are nonsensical. Like I understand that.
Starting point is 00:12:07 Yeah. That's why. We don't have that kind of. A lot like, yeah. A number of days. And the reason we've also been locked down for so long is because they didn't order the vaccine. The correct vaccine.
Starting point is 00:12:17 And then when it broke out in another state, which was deemed more important, all of a sudden these other, all these other vaccines suddenly started. Coming through. Appearing like fucking magic. Anyway, so even though we're angry about different things, I could really resonate with like the anger in this and just at the utter fucking incompetence. And it's just the lack of foresight as well.
Starting point is 00:12:41 Like it's the lack of preparedness for the worst-case scenario and it made me think about times where I've been in school situations lack of foresight as well. Like it's the lack of preparedness for the worst case scenario. And it made me think about times where I've been in school situations where I've had leadership that is really good at setting things up so that the worst case scenario happens and there's all these measures in place rather than being reactive. So when the bad thing happens, then scrambling to try and address it. And I think that is the difference between really clear, great leadership and I think we've seen that with people like Jacinda Ardern. Yep.
Starting point is 00:13:12 And you see it in like a lot of sectors. Like you do see it in healthcare workers all the time. We've seen it in teaching as well. You know, like teaching from home, teaching from, you know, remotely, it sucks. Like it's terrible. But for our son's school it's been handled so well despite being an awful situation, you know, and I'm really grateful for that, you know,
Starting point is 00:13:34 and I know he, well, maybe he's not, but he responds really well to it and I think that's not an accident, you know. It's for having force. So people have kind of. That ability, yeah. You know, picked up the slack a lot of the time. Yeah, and I think that's. It's for having force. So people have kind of. That ability, yeah. You know, picked up the slack a lot of the time. Yeah, and I think that's what Sharon Horgan's character and James McAvoy as well does such a good job of.
Starting point is 00:13:52 He's back, oh boy, yeah. McAvoy. He's back, oh boy. He's back, oh boy. I'm sorry, James McAvoy, he's back, oh boy. I think that he does such a good job in this film of getting you past those numbers, like hearing 39,000 and they kind of wash over you and really understanding that each of those numbers is a person with a family,
Starting point is 00:14:11 with people that cared about them and loved them, with a story. And I think that that is how we get people to really think deeply about what's going on. Anyway, I loved it. It's also quite lovely and like the way that they kind of, because I think we've definitely grown closer because, you know, we already work from home anyway but, you know, you go through this thing together, you know,
Starting point is 00:14:30 and it kind of solidifies your relationship a little bit more, I guess, like forged in a fire of sorts. I know it's not like a world war or like mass poverty or anything like that. Obviously people have it worse but, yeah, I think this movie just showed that really well. Like them together was very convincing. I agree.
Starting point is 00:14:50 I think Sharon Horgan has a real gift in being able to choose the right kind of work that suits her. Totally. And this kind of where she's playing in a couple. And I think she said it in an interview, the pieces that she chooses seem to kind of weirdly mirror some of her own experiences in her life. Like Pulling was based around her in her twenties. And then say like the show Catastrophe she did with Rob Delaney was about a couple who gets pregnant after a one night stand in their thirties. And that was kind of based on her
Starting point is 00:15:23 husband, Jeremy Rainbird's relationship and had been together for six months when they found out that they were expecting their first baby. And so now he's actually her ex-husband and they've separated. They've got teenage daughters and so she said that that kind of experience in her life actually fed into this, into her art, and that kind of breakdown of a relationship and the fighting and all that stuff, you can feel that there's a sense of reality in it.
Starting point is 00:15:48 Does that make sense? Yeah, totally. Like she really brings a lot into that kind of relationship. It's the same with This Way Up. She does a really great job of depicting that relationship between her and her sister. Yeah. And walking that line of darkly funny and comedic while also really
Starting point is 00:16:04 heartbreaking and touching. Yeah. I just think is excellent. I think they're both so great. walking that line of darkly funny and comedic while also really heartbreaking and touching. Yeah. I just think he's excellent. I think they're both so great. Plus she has excellent overalls in the show. I love them. You did point that out.
Starting point is 00:16:14 They're like good overalls. Yeah, they were really good. No, I thought it was really good. And it is. I really like that reflection you just said about as you've been together, like we've been together a long time now, I think that. Compared to some. Compared to some.
Starting point is 00:16:29 Yeah, exactly. Really difficult moments can either break you or make you. Yeah. And I think if you can let them, they bring you closer each time in a different way because you keep going through things together, the loss of parents and, you know, world catastrophes and all the difficult things of everyday life. And there is something in that, right? Like growing old together. Maybe when you get married, you think it's this romantic idea, but growing old
Starting point is 00:16:57 together is actually about weathering all these storms and coming through the other side, older, grayer, with more more wrinkles but also closer. And hopefully if you're with, you know, the person that's right for you, then that weathering is a little bit easier. Yeah, exactly. And they do a great job of, I think, just arguing in this. Yeah, totally. I love a good argument.
Starting point is 00:17:18 And the character arcs are great too because he starts off as a really horrible, arrogant kind of guy, I think, and over time he changes and becomes a much more humble person. And she maybe becomes more awful. Yeah. But not really. It's one of the – not at all actually. No, I think more that she's experienced –
Starting point is 00:17:37 More self-aware maybe. Yeah, and experienced a depth of grief maybe. Yeah, exactly. That changes you. It's a whole thing. But anyway, great. Great. And where can people changes you. It's a whole thing. But anyway, great. Great. And where can people find it?
Starting point is 00:17:46 It's on BBC too. So if you're in other places in the world like we are, you'll need a VPN to access that. But, yeah, it's right there. Super great. And I highly recommend it. Also, I just saw that Sharon Horgan, she's going to co-write and star in a series for Apple,
Starting point is 00:18:02 Apple Plus, quietly just killing it. Not Quietly. Ted Light's like the biggest show in the world. Yeah. But a dark comedy series. So that's great news. Yeah, I read that that one is actually based on a couple who are divorced. Okay.
Starting point is 00:18:15 So there you go. Sounds right up her alley. Yeah. Even though she's been married since 2006 apparently. No, she's now separated from Jeremy Rainbird. Perfect. Yeah. This is the perfect project. That's what I was telling you.
Starting point is 00:18:28 So there you go. That sounds great. And Apple are good. They mostly make good things. They really are. I haven't watched Smigadoon yet, that musical thing. No, me neither. I should watch that.
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Starting point is 00:18:59 Invite your teen to join your Uber account today. Available in select locations. See app for details. Anyway, what else do you recommend? All right. Okay. So I just wanted to talk about Modern Love because I was recommended it by you and I watched it and I bloody loved it.
Starting point is 00:19:17 And it's the second season, so I love the first season. We've already talked about that. And I won't go too much into it because you've already talked about this at length. It's the second season of Modern Love. It's on Amazon Prime. And it's just a beautiful series of romantic comedy, little snapshots and vignettes. And each one is lovely. And every time I finish it, I'm sobbing on the couch. And then I come into you while you're working and you make you give me a big hug. And then I just say how much I love you.
Starting point is 00:19:44 And then I go to bed. And I love you and then I'd go to bed. And I was like, get out of here. It's embarrassing, Clay. You're embarrassing yourself. No, but they're beautiful. And we actually live streamed it on Insta for everybody to say how much we love each other. Oh, God.
Starting point is 00:19:54 Yeah. Gross. Anyway. Anyway, so the two that were my favourites, although I think I liked all of them, The Night Girl Finds the Day Boy with Zoe Chow, who is excellent, who is in lots of them. The Night Girl Finds the Day Boy with Zoe Chow, who is excellent, who is in lots of stuff and I think she's great. She was in that season one of Love Something with Anna Kendrick.
Starting point is 00:20:13 Yes, yes, yes, yes. Love Something. Yes. And, yeah, it's kind of, it's like a romantic comedy-esque kind of vibe and it's really good and I can't remember what it's called, but, yeah, it's starring Anna Kendrick. She is in that. She's like her best friend and it's really good and I can't remember what it's called but, yeah, it's starring Anna Kendrick. She is in that. She's like her best friend and it's great.
Starting point is 00:20:27 Well, Zoe Chow's excellent and she plays a woman with delayed sleep face syndrome who meets and falls in love with Jordan who's a teacher and the day boy. And it's just sort of based on this beautiful fairy tale and I just loved it. Or is it a nightmare because they have different schedules? They do. But New York City is kind of great in it.
Starting point is 00:20:44 Oh, my God, New York City is a of great in it. Oh, my God. New York City is a character in itself. That's what I love about it. Anyway, I just love this for the escapism because nowhere in them is COVID and I just love watching something set in beautiful places. I mean I even really loved the one with Mimi Driver. That's a good one. Oh, it's good and I sobbed and sobbed after that one.
Starting point is 00:21:03 My other favourite one is the one that you said, A Second Embrace with Hearts and Eyes Open. Yeah, the good one. Oh, it's a good one. And I sobbed and sobbed after that one. My other favourite one is the one that you said, A Second Embrace with Hearts and Eyes Open. Yeah, the last one. Yeah. I think that's the best one. Yeah, with Elizabeth played by Sophie Okonedu who's in Doctor Who. She was in Doctor Who. I just took a punt at that.
Starting point is 00:21:17 Yeah, no, she was. And Van who's Tobias Menzies from This Way Up and many other things. They start seeing each other again years after their divorce and they have two little girls and it's just beautiful and the chemistry between them is amazing and it's just wonderful to see that kind of character arc and a couple who've kind of grown into themselves. And just that commentary I found that resonated with me
Starting point is 00:21:43 about a man recognising that he had a lot of growing up to do and then grew up and took responsibility for himself and become really accomplished. Are you talking about anyone in particular? No, but I just, no, nobody in specific, Jane. No, because I definitely resonated with that. I mean I think he did it much later than me. But it seems that my brain didn't develop until I was 28,
Starting point is 00:22:07 so I don't really think it's my fault. Yeah, do you think that is a thing though with guys? Partly. I don't know. It's like a bit of like aimlessness and like what am I doing kind of blah, blah, blah. And I'm still like what am I doing, but I'm like I guess this. Well, I have noticed it in some of, and this is a generalisation,
Starting point is 00:22:23 but in some of my male friends I have seen a shift in their 30s and it was kind of this taking responsibility for themselves in a different way. And some of our friends obviously have been super like that from the get-go and others maybe are still stuck in that kind of. Let's name them. Let's name them right now. Not adolescent vibe but just a different way of being in the world.
Starting point is 00:22:45 And actually it's just a human thing, right? Whatever you need to do to get through it. Yeah, exactly. And everyone's different. But I have noticed that maybe it's just that whole getting married and fatherhood stuff that changes you. But I think it's also. I never understood that you had to be kind to women until I myself
Starting point is 00:23:02 had a daughter. And then I realised. Oh, my God. I realised you should be kind to women until I myself had a daughter and then I realised. I realised you should be nice to women. I suddenly knew. I have a new respect for women. You know what it is? It's not even that.
Starting point is 00:23:20 It's just like the taking out of the bins without anyone saying to you the bins need to be taken out. Yeah, I don't know what it's been when they want to like marry their mum or whatever. Yeah, I don't know whether it's people who want to like marry their mum or whatever. Yeah, or just not realise. I just sometimes think and I'm sure, you know, everyone's different but I do know that there is a particular kind of vibe around this stuff. What, do you want to be bloody nagged for the rest of your life?
Starting point is 00:23:36 Like I kind of like this whole idea of like the nagging wife or whatever and this also is a person that exists who's constantly nagging. I'm not saying that. And it can be anybody in any relationship of any gender but like if you're being nagged like it might be a reason that you need to like figure out and it might be that that person just nags a lot or maybe maybe you suck or maybe it's both i don't know maybe I never understood women until I saw a woman in my own arms and I went, oh, my God. Now I understand women.
Starting point is 00:24:09 Can I tell you one thing? I did not know. Can I tell you one thing? I was always yelling at women out of my car. No, I'll fight anybody who yells at my daughter. I'll fight them in the street. If anybody comes up to my daughter, I'll come out with a baseball bat and I'll go, that's my daughter. I'll fight them in the street. If anybody comes up to my daughter, I'll come out with a baseball bat and I go, that's my daughter. I'll say to them, I'll crack their head with a baseball bat. Have you finished your bit yet? Not yet. I wanted to share one tiny thing that I loved and
Starting point is 00:24:34 then you can go. Sure. It sounds weird and I don't know if anyone else will relate to this. At the end of the episode, and this is a spoiler, at the end of the episode- Colleen's all struck in another time code. She's diagnosed with breast cancer and he has said he's taken so much responsibility for their daughters over the years and looked after them a lot and he's changed a lot from when they were first together when it seemed like he was sort of like not, you know, kind of aimless and not really doing anything and not competent at anything. And he's become this like great dad and really responsible and even better than she is in a lot of ways at
Starting point is 00:25:10 remembering all their piano lessons and all the things they have in their lives. And so watching him kind of take responsibility for all of that meant that she has sort of re-fallen in love with him, I think, because of all of that. At the very end, when she's lying in the hospital bed and he comes in and it's clear that they're going to get back together, he gives her this ring that she admired. It was in like a flea market so it wasn't an expensive ring. And he pulls it out and she opens it and puts it on. She's like, oh, it was too big for me so I'll have to wear it.
Starting point is 00:25:43 I'll have to get it resized. And she slides it on and it fit her perfectly. And in that moment I just thought, oh, God, that is so great because it's this tiny thing but it's the gift of organisation. Yeah. But I think it's also like because otherwise it would be like, oh, you can fix that. Yeah, because exactly right. Like she would have had to take it to the jeweller,
Starting point is 00:26:11 figure out her ring size, get it resized, then get it sent back to her and it's a whole lot of admin. You've just given them a job. You've given her admin to do as a gift and because it's such a thoughtful thing that he noticed that she'd chosen that ring, you wouldn't say in that moment, oh, now I have to get it resized. You would just, you would sort of say, I'll get it resized and you would just be grateful. But that extra step, Abby is so sexy. So sexy.
Starting point is 00:26:37 That it is. But B, it speaks volumes about him understanding the mental load of her as a person. Yeah. And to me that was so tiny but so indicative, I think, of what they were trying to get at in that episode. And I just, that bit spoke to me so much. And I just thought, great, because that's what you want. You want an equal partner. You don't want to be given admin for your birthday, you know.
Starting point is 00:27:02 Yeah, totally. Yeah, and I just, anyway, I thought it was great. So anyway, I know you already talked about it but I wanted to talk about it again. I agree. I agree with you that it's great and there's more American episodes than I remember being as well actually. Yeah, there is as a mix which is really nice. Maybe three at least.
Starting point is 00:27:17 Totally. Are you watching it? I'm like, oh yeah, this is an American one. I forgot about this one. Anyways, I'm going to recommend, we talked about it briefly last week, the TV series called Lego Masters. Now, this is the Australian one. I've yet to watch the Will Arnett one in the US. It's hosted by comedian and radio host Hamish Blake of Hamish and Andy fame
Starting point is 00:27:35 and Ryan McNaught, who's also known as Brick Man, who's like a Lego brick master. So he's kind of like the Gordon Ramsay of Lego, except he's not horrible. He's not a horrible person. Oh, by the way, when I was doing that bit before, that's our Prime Minister. That's what he's kind of like the Gordon Ramsay of Lego, except he's not horrible. He's not a horrible person. Oh, by the way, when I was doing that bit before, that's our prime minister. That's what he's like. I never understood that you shouldn't assault women until I thought
Starting point is 00:27:52 about how I have a daughter. Brilliant. Really good. Really good that you're the fucking prime minister, you absolute fucking clown. Anyway. I don't know if you've noticed, James is full of a lot of rage. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:04 They know, Claire. Anyway, if you don't know, it's a Lego building competition. Think MasterChef, but it's Lego. So there's different challenges and they give them a different set of hours. It might be like, it might be six hours. It might be 14 hours, whatever. And they're ranked on story, creativity, and technical ability. Sometimes they'll have to do a rebuild, but there's one where they get a parrot and it's like, break this parrot down and make it into something else and you have to use every bit of the parrot. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:28:32 There might be a theme that they have to follow. It might be like space or they're building a something. I couldn't think of a second thing. So it's like animals and buildings and like people and amusement parks and whatever. And it's really fun. And like a lot of things, it's ultimately pointless, but I think that's what's good about it. It's like really light and very, and really positive. And there's kind of one kind of like villainous kind of guy, I guess, in the first season. And I've been told though,
Starting point is 00:29:03 by a friend of ours that that kind of doesn't happen so much in later seasons, just this guy who just doesn't learn lessons for the entire show until he gets eliminated. He's just like, yeah, I'm the best here. But he consistently proves that he is absolutely not. It's quite amusing. It's terrific.
Starting point is 00:29:20 And I've been watching it with our son. We've been doing like one a day or one every two days. They're about an hour each. I think the premiere is like an hour and a half or whatever. But it's also been inspiring him to like make more stuff and afterwards we go upstairs and we build some Lego together and we map out a little plan and then we come downstairs and you judge our Lego plan.
Starting point is 00:29:39 It's just great. And look, again, I haven't seen the American one so maybe that would be more suited if you are, you know, somewhere else in the world. But if you are interested, it's on Nine Now, which is a local app from Australia, which, again, you have to use a VPN. Nine Now is based on our free-to-air channel, Channel 9.
Starting point is 00:29:58 But this particular app is the home of shows that were cancelled in 2016. I've got a list here. But it's constantly, like, shilling list here, that it's constantly like shilling in the seven ad breaks that they have during the show. I'm talking about Rush Hour, the TV series. I'm talking about Lethal Weapon, the TV series. I'm talking about the show Up All Night, speaking of Will Arnett. I'm talking about the show Council of Dads.
Starting point is 00:30:23 I'm talking about the show Allegiance.s I'm talking about the show Allegiance Claire, which of those are real? Tell me None of them They're all real They're all real shows But they're no longer Yeah, they've all been cancelled
Starting point is 00:30:34 What is that about? They've just bought all these shows? Yeah, they bought all this old crap And just like You're like the Training Day TV series that got cancelled Because Bill Pullman died I'm like, no got cancelled because Bill Pullman died? I'm like, no, not really. Bill Pullman died?
Starting point is 00:30:47 He died like three, four years ago, yeah. I really liked him. I didn't notice about him. My favourite movie, While You Were Sleeping. No, is he? Yeah. He's in Titanic. Talking about Bill Pullman?
Starting point is 00:30:59 Yeah. You're thinking of Bill Paxton. This is the mistake that everybody, including myself, makes. I even went before I said Bill Pullman, I'm like, is it Bill Paxton. This is the mistake that everybody, including myself, makes. I even went before I said Bill Pullman, I'm like, is it Bill Paxton? Is it Bill Pullman? I'm just checking. I thought it was Bill Pullman. It might actually be Bill Paxton.
Starting point is 00:31:16 It is Bill Paxton. Are you sure? No, Bill Pullman. It's Bill Pullman. Yeah, I know, but I meant to say Bill Paxton. I said the wrong Bill. Fuck. It's Bill Pullman. Yeah, I know, but I meant to say Bill Paxton. I said the wrong Bill. Fuck.
Starting point is 00:31:29 What's hilarious about that is that I don't know very many things about anyone, but I feel like I would know if Bill Pullman died because I love his character. I can't believe I said Bill Pullman. It's so embarrassing. Oh, God. I do that all the time, and even when I don't do it, I do it as a joke that I get it wrong but I just consistently get it wrong. Anyway, those are all shows.
Starting point is 00:31:49 Rush Hour, the TV series. Lead the Web, the TV series. Up All Night. Council of Dads. Allegiance. Whoa. Training Day sequel series. Not to alarm anyone but Bill Pullman is definitely still alive.
Starting point is 00:32:00 He is. He was in Independence Day 2. Correct. Anyways, I do want to talk about Squid Game, which is a Netflix, a Korean Netflix series. I want to talk about that next week because we don't have enough time. But, my God. So if you want to hear about Squid Game, come back next week
Starting point is 00:32:20 so I can talk about Squid Game. Oh, God, I couldn't even handle it being in the background while I was working. It's funny because you were like, can you not watch this here? And just as you said that, I'm like, fine, and I moved. And then it just like went insane. So I don't know how you would have had, like it was just like it really kicked off.
Starting point is 00:32:37 I could tell. It was so creepy and I just could feel the vibe and I was like, I can't work with you. I loved it. I was trying so hard because I wanted you to stay in the room because I like when you're around while I'm working or something. Not when I'm watching the Korean TV series Squid Game. Oh, Lord.
Starting point is 00:32:52 All right. Anyways, I'm just going to let the dog out while you read a letter maybe. Oh, no, I want you to hear this. So we'll pause the time. He's letting her out. Okay, you ready? I love Bill Paxton as well. I can't believe I said that. I can't believe I said that.
Starting point is 00:33:07 I can't believe you said that. All right, what's next? He's the only actor to be killed by a Terminator, by a Predator, and by an alien. He wasn't killed by a Robocop, though, I believe. I see. Isn't that interesting? They do look very similar, Bill Paxton and Bill Pullman.
Starting point is 00:33:23 Yeah. I can see why you do that. They are very similar. All right, your mind palace has a tiny, tiny floor. Everybody has that floor except for you apparently. No, because I only know Bill Pullman. I don't have a very encyclopedic knowledge. He was in the movie Twister.
Starting point is 00:33:37 He was. I love Twister. Do you remember the cow in Twister? I should watch that again. Yes, I do. Do you know why I love that? Because I liked Helen Hunt. I'd watch anything again. Yes, I do. Do you know why I love that? Because I liked Helen Hunt. I'd watch anything in Helen Hunt.
Starting point is 00:33:46 Do you see that Helen Hunt movie where she plays like a therapeutic like sex worker or something like that? Yes, I do see that. Yeah, I can't remember what that's called or even if that's the term for that, that's an excellent movie. She's so good. Yeah. I have an email.
Starting point is 00:33:58 I love emails. So if you would like to email the show with your recommendations, suggestions or just your Lego approach because so many people approached us last week and I just bloody loved getting all your emails. It was so brilliant. We have the best listeners to this show, so thank you. This one email, you can email suggestivepod.gmail.com, is from Neil McGinley and his title of it is My Name Isn't Benny.
Starting point is 00:34:20 Is he any relation to Paddy McGinty from the song or poem Paddy McGinty's Goat? Because it's Gin Lee, not Ginty. But anyway. Would you say no then? Yes, maybe. So here he goes. It's not a listening one. You just told me you wanted me to listen.
Starting point is 00:34:36 No, I just thought I'd read it. Well, that's what. I just thought you would read it. And listen to me while I read it. All right, let's do it. Anyway, okay. You saw me untangle these headphones and you let me do it. Look, I'm not functioning at 100%.
Starting point is 00:34:51 I'm functioning at like 2% or 5%. Okay, here we go. Hi, Claire and James. Hope yous are well. I was just listening to the episode where you were talking about people being called a different name. I think it's an Irish thing as my name is Neil, but as long as I can remember everyone has called me Benny
Starting point is 00:35:07 and no one knows why. I like to think it was used to trick those crafty Brits from stealing our secrets. It might be. Anyway, love the pod. 10 out of 10, Neil slash Benny. I'm loving everything about that. Me too.
Starting point is 00:35:22 It was so good. All right. I've got some doozy letters, but I'll save them. Your turn. Review. I'm happy to do this right now because this is more about a review for the show. And I'll tell you this much, Claire, it's the best thing you can do in life is review this show.
Starting point is 00:35:35 It is. It's good karma. Everyone needs some karma. Call your parents, your loved ones, give this podcast a review. Just do it in app. It's as easy as that really helps. This is from Monarch Music who says, may I suggest? Great pod.
Starting point is 00:35:48 Love you guys. But I had an idea for an episode of Suggestible where instead of suggesting movies to others to watch or read, you can bring Maceo. I forgot how to spell his name. No, you got it. And some of Claire's friends and you guys suggest him people to date. Two smiley faces. Look, I wouldn't want to get into the personal life of one Nick Mason.
Starting point is 00:36:08 But, you know, so that's just we probably won't do that. I'd imagine. No. Maybe he's single. Maybe he isn't. Who knows? Who knows with that dude? Maybe he's married.
Starting point is 00:36:18 Maybe he's got his own family. Maybe he does. We don't know. He just turns up like a little sprite every week. Exactly. He don't know. He just turns up like a little sprite every week. Exactly. He sprites away. Actually, we do have a suspicion that he lives in our garden on a little toadstool.
Starting point is 00:36:32 With a little hat and a little pipe. Yes, that's right. Yeah, he would. I could see him doing that. I reckon our son thinks he's a little bit magical. Why is that? Because he's very funny and I think he turns up all the time and he's just like, ooh, this little man coming in.
Starting point is 00:36:48 He's coming in. He's coming in. He's awesome. Not that small, by the way. No, he's not. No, I meant as in, no, he's definitely not small at all. But he's great and we love him and he's excellent. And he made our son a plate of like he stayed for dinner
Starting point is 00:37:00 and made a face out of his food. He did. And our son loved it. He had a good time. He did. All our son loved it. He had a good time. He did. All right, that's it. That's it for the show this week. Thank you, as always, to Royal Collings for ending this episode.
Starting point is 00:37:11 Thank you to James for carrying me this week because I'm a titled lady. And we'll have to carry her out of the studio. You will because it's romance time, am I right? It is romance time, everybody. I don't know if people know this, but every time we record the podcast afterwards, it is romance time. Strictly in a hands-off sense, we're talking candle-lit dinners. Candle-lit?
Starting point is 00:37:35 Candle-lit dinners. Now Jase is really getting to the crux of our relationship. We're talking a bowl of pasta in an alley like a lady in the trap. We touch our noses together. Touch our noses together. We're going and lit candles apparently. That's right. That's the secret to a long and healthy relationship.
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