Suggestible - What I did for Love

Episode Date: August 27, 2020

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Starting point is 00:00:22 Uber Teen Accounts. Invite your teen to join your Uber account today. Available in select locations. See app for details. Say goodbye. The sweetness and the sorrow. I don't know this song. Wish me luck the same to you.
Starting point is 00:00:43 I don't know this song. You don't know it? No. And things I don't know, I don't know this song. Wish me luck the same to you. I don't know this song. You don't know it? No. And things I don't know I don't like. Yes. What I did for love. What did you do? Marry you.
Starting point is 00:00:55 It's called What I Did for Love. It's from a chorus line. How could you not know it? I don't know what that is. But I can't regret what I did for love. Oh, actually, no, I know it. what I did for love. Oh, actually, no, I know it. What I did for love. I actually know it.
Starting point is 00:01:10 You know that? Yeah, no, I know it. That's actually, I know. I actually know it more than you know it, if anything. That's the approach that our four-year-old takes. I always ask asking things like, do you know about this? Did you know there are eight planets?
Starting point is 00:01:29 He's like, yeah. Yeah. You don't know. You didn't even know what a planet was. I know. Let alone there's eight of them. I saw this great video. I think I was telling you about it.
Starting point is 00:01:37 I can't remember the name of it. It's a skit, but a guy gets, his girlfriend reveals to him that he's. That she's going to sing What I Did For Love from a chorus line he's. That she's going to sing. No. What I Didn't Love from a chorus line. No. What I Didn't Love. That she's pregnant. And he doesn't get it. Like,
Starting point is 00:01:49 cause she gives him a T-shirt that's like best dad or whatever. He doesn't get it. He's like, but I'm not a dad. And then he tries to turn it around and be like, oh, actually I did know. I knew before you.
Starting point is 00:01:57 Cause the doctor, like you can't just admit that he didn't know and he didn't understand. It's really funny. Well, that says a lot about that guy's ego. No, I mean, it's a skit. He's not a real, I mean, he's a real guy. But anyway, it's suggestible.
Starting point is 00:02:13 We suggest things. We do. I'm Claire. He's James. My eyes are dry. Why are you singing this particular thing? Well, it's to do with my suggestible. What is it?
Starting point is 00:02:23 The gift was ours to borrow. I hate this. What is it? The gift was ours to borrow. I hate this. What is it? Oh, I love it. It's such a good song. I just was in the mood to sing some musical numbers. Okay. Anyway.
Starting point is 00:02:33 Let's hope everybody tuning into this is in the mood for you. So have you heard, James, James, have you heard of a little musical called Hamilton? Yeah. Have you? Yeah, I've seen it. And I've seen, along with you, half of the Disney Plus. Yeah, we haven't Have you really? And I've seen along with you half of the Disney plus. Yeah, we haven't watched the end of it yet.
Starting point is 00:02:47 But I so loved the soundtrack so much. Anyway, well, you saw it live, you lucky old duck. I did. You real old duck. I'm an old duck. So old. He's so old. I'm so old.
Starting point is 00:03:00 You look older every day. Anyway, there is a wonderful video of my first recommendation on the tubes of the celebration that they do at the end of Hamilton with all of the cast, including Lin-Manuel Miranda, and he gets all of the cast, so not just the main, like the leads, but the ensemble cast, and they each sing lines from this beautiful song from a chorus line, it makes me cry and it's so beautiful. Was it their last show ever or something? Yeah, it was.
Starting point is 00:03:30 With the original cast or whatever. And it's gorgeous because he for so long did sort of amateur theatre and musicals and all that kind of stuff. He understands what it's like to be like a super enthusiastic member of the chorus who never gets to sing in line, which is me when I do theatre. Oh, sometimes I got like one or two lines. You had some parts, man.
Starting point is 00:03:49 I had a few. Yeah. Anyway, and so it's so gorgeous because you see all the leads don't sing except for in the main bits and the members of the chorus, you never hear sing solo, sing solo. And you just see them up there and they're just belting it out with all their heart and you're just like, yeah, man. Also, they're really talented, obviously, and they're just belting it out with all their heart and you're just like yeah man also they're really talented obviously because they're in like because
Starting point is 00:04:09 even if you're even to to get to that level even as a person who stands in the background is like yeah exactly if you have to hold a tree you're gonna be the best tree holder of all time better goddamn believe not that anyone holds a tree in hamilton anyway it's just gorgeous and i found it through jennifer garner who i follow on Instagram who I've talked about before but I just bloody love her. She's a bit of a ray of sunshine which is so ironic that she was married to Ben Affleck. Everybody's got their different, you know, everyone's opposites
Starting point is 00:04:36 and whatever. Anyway, he's dating Ana de Llamas or whatever from many things. No, you do. She's the lead in Knives Out. Ah, okay. Has she ever sung in a chorus line? I don't believe so, but I don't know, but I don't know for a fact. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:04:57 Anyway, well, I wonder if Ben Affleck has ever sung this song to Jennifer Garner. What is some – sure, maybe he was in something he was singing and he's bad, but I might just be thinking of Russell Crowe in Les Mis or whatever. Yeah, he's real bad. Look, he's not the best in Les Mis, but his performance is good. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:16 He's a good Javert. He's a great actor. And he can sing. He just can't do that particular. No, because the Les Mis soundtrack or the score is so difficult and there's nowhere to hide, particularly in his song. Stars in their altitude. And look, honestly.
Starting point is 00:05:32 It has to be coming. And they sang like live. Like I don't think. Feeling the darkness. He does a good, like he does a pretty good job considering. The war and light. But yeah, he's not. Are the sentinel.
Starting point is 00:05:43 Just get. Silent and sure. Do what they used to do and just dub. Just get someone else. Like he's not. You are the sentinel, silent and sure. Do what they used to do and just dub. Just get someone else. Like it's fine. They should have got the old Claire Tontz over here. You could do those parts and you could do all the acting. I could literally sing that entire musical from start to finish.
Starting point is 00:05:57 I could do a one-woman show of me just doing Les Mis. You know what you should do? What? You should start a separate podcast devoid of me where you can do that. No one would listen to that. Not even my mum would listen to that. You're probably right. However, maybe I will just do that.
Starting point is 00:06:15 Maybe you will. Maybe I will. Anyway, yeah, so that's my recommendation. Cool, just a good fun thing. Yeah, also watch Hamilton on Disney+. No, you've watched half of Hamilton, so you didn't get to say shit about Hamilton on Disney+. No, because I know what happens in the second half and my little heart at the moment couldn't
Starting point is 00:06:29 take it. I couldn't take it. Where did you learn about what happened in the second half? I know, you've been hiding it from me for years and years. It's got spoiled for me on a podcast that I love. Oh, cool. Okay. Yeah, Annabelle Crabbe and Lee Sales on Chat 10 Looks 3 spoils it for me.
Starting point is 00:06:43 Oh, well. Fair enough. Anyway. It's good. But still, I just couldn't watch that, but it is good. Because I didn't know Chat 10 Looks 3 spoils it for me. Oh, well. Fair enough. Anyway. It's good. But still, I couldn't listen. I just couldn't watch that. But it is. Because I didn't know any of that when I saw it in the theater.
Starting point is 00:06:50 You didn't even know the soundtrack. Amazing. No. I intended. Because I didn't want to. I purposely didn't. Oh, I thought you were like, you didn't even know the soundtrack. I thought you were like accusing me.
Starting point is 00:06:59 I know. Because I think me knowing the soundtrack so well, I'd kind of built up the story in a different way in my head. So when I saw it live, it was story in a different way in my head. So when I saw it live, it was different to how I imagined it. Yeah, okay. Now I can understand that. Anyway. Okay, over to you, Jim.
Starting point is 00:07:10 This is from Netflix. It's a show called High Score. It's created by France Corstrel. And it looks at the creation of video games and broken into different genres and eras over five or six episodes. So you might be like, boo, video games, right? That's you, right? But there might be some things that might interest you.
Starting point is 00:07:27 You'll never watch this, but anyway. I'm so sorry. That's okay. I forgive you. So there's fighting games. So they did like fighting games, role-playing games. They did like the video game bust. Do you know about that?
Starting point is 00:07:42 The video games nearly sunk in the 80s, big part because an E.T. game game came out it was so bad that it like nearly destroyed the industry but he's sunk video games yeah yeah it was and then they went and took all the copies that didn't sell and buried them in the desert and it was this urban myth like did this thing really happen did they did they really bury hundreds of thousands of copies of this et game they fucking did they really did it like because then it got dug up. The Nintendo versus Sega era of the 90s, are you familiar with that?
Starting point is 00:08:09 That was like a big thing when we were growing up. Yeah, I do vaguely remember that. They talk about the transition from 2D to 3D video games and how that was quite a difficult thing. And they do these things where they'll introduce like titans of industry and the people who made Doom and how they were like these rock star developers and all these kinds of things. But then they'll look at lesser known, also more influential people.
Starting point is 00:08:30 Not more influential, lesser known, less influential, I would say, on a smaller scale, but have these really fascinating stories. Because a lot of people, when video games are starting, and even now, it's a level playing field in terms of creation. If you know how to do these things, if you know how to code, then you can create these very specific and even big changes that affect people. There was this man who made this RPG in the 80s,
Starting point is 00:08:53 which is a role-playing game, right? So you do a little adventure. It was a gay man during the AIDS epidemic. They had these real-life homophobic figures in the media who then he would put into the game and it was his way of kind of pushing back and it was really cathartic to make this game as a way to kind of like there's a bit of like a like a fuck you and like but in your own way kind of thing and that went out and it wasn't like a hugely successful game and it was lost to
Starting point is 00:09:20 time for like decades but to the people who played that, who it meant something to, it was a huge deal. You know what I mean? And it also, so it was looking, it looks at people like that. And it also looks at like kids and teenagers from the eighties and nineties who are now, you know, in their thirties, forties, probably forties, fifties, who won big gaming tournaments. And there were these huge moments where they were kids and kind of where they are now.
Starting point is 00:09:43 And so look, it's, it's, it's a bit all over the place in terms of like the narrative. Cause it's, it kind of jumps from here to there, but it's like, it was like right up my alley. I'm like, this is good fun. And it was kind of, it was interesting to see, not just like, these are the big creative voices and these are the big companies. It was like, this is the guy who like the first guy who invented video games. So it was about like, there was a black guy in America who invented the video game cartridge and like all these things that I didn't really know about, which was the stuff that I found really fascinating.
Starting point is 00:10:13 Yeah. That is so far up your alley. It's basically called James Alley. It was good. They nearly called it James Alley, but it was a bit niche. It's called High Score. High Score. If you love like the toys that made us, which is that show about like.
Starting point is 00:10:27 Yes, all the different toys. Then you'll enjoy this. It feels similar. Interesting. In the genesis of stuff. You know what I'm discovering in 2020? Sega Genesis called the Mega Drive in Australia and regions of Europe. We've unintentionally exploited a video game nerd bomb over there.
Starting point is 00:10:45 Yeah, you've been singing for like 20 minutes, so calm down. Look, everyone's a nerd about something. That's right. I'm a nerd about good things and you're a nerd about boring things. The video game industry is bigger than the movie and music and writing industry combined, Claire. I don't disagree with any of that. It's a mainstream event.
Starting point is 00:11:05 I understand it's boring though to me, which means, and I am the definitive expert on all things. You're definitive on nothing. On musical theatre. No, you're not even that. Are you writing another song? I'm joking. I'm so sorry.
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Starting point is 00:11:34 Uber Teen Accounts. Invite your teen to join your Uber account today. Available in select locations. See app for details. Ooh, okay. So I have discovered I'm just loving at the moment a bit of the old stand-up comedy just because it's getting me through, mate. It's getting me through the lockdown because we are currently in, if you haven't already
Starting point is 00:11:53 heard us bang on about it for the last couple episodes, one of the strictest lockdowns around at the moment. I can't even watch Tenet, the movie. I know. I can't even watch The New Mutants, which is coming out this week. And I thought you'll be proud of me for this fact for Tenet. I'm not proud of anyone. That they crashed like a Boeing 747.
Starting point is 00:12:10 They did do that, yeah. I know. When did you hear that? On the news. Whoa. It was, yeah, so because we mentioned it. I was like, is that a model? They're like, it looks pretty real.
Starting point is 00:12:19 And they're like, no, it was cheaper to buy an old one and crash it than like do it with special effects. That would kind of be incredible. What are they crashing into? Like a building or an airport? Not a real one, but yeah. Jeez. Crazy.
Starting point is 00:12:31 The stuff they do. The stuff they do for film. What they do for film. I hate this episode of this podcast. We're like the Ben Affleck, Jennifer Garner. They're going to break up. Dynamic. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:12:48 Through infidelity. No, is that what you think? And alcoholism. Oh, God. Is that what's going to happen? No, I take it all back. It's too late. I don't take back the fact that Jennifer Garner is like wonderful
Starting point is 00:12:58 and I love her. And Ben Affleck's a pretty good Batman. So they've both got things going on, don't they? What was the other guy that played Bruce Wayne? Michael Keaton. No. Adam West. No.
Starting point is 00:13:09 Val Kilmer. Christian Bale. George Clooney. I saw Christian Bale with like. Kevin Conroy. I know you know everything about there is to know. Anyway, I just saw a snap grab of Christian Bale with like a giant mustache being interviewed about the announcement of Ben Affleck coming back as Batman.
Starting point is 00:13:29 Oh, really? And it was just like a really weird like throwaway like line. Was he confused? Yeah. No, he was. Was it a meme or a video? No, it was a video. It was obviously someone had asked him like on a red carpet or something,
Starting point is 00:13:41 which is weird because COVID. But anyway, and he just was like, you know, it's an iconic role and he makes a great Batman and people made fun of, you know, other people for blah, blah, blah, but actually he makes a real go of it. Good on him or something. You sure it wasn't about Robat Battenbat? No. Robert Pattinson?
Starting point is 00:14:02 I don't think so. Anyway, I just couldn't stop staring at Christian Bale's giant moustache. He's a chameleon, that guy. He can be anybody. He can be thin. Giant moustache. Anyway, back to what my suggestible was. What's your suggestible was?
Starting point is 00:14:14 Stop getting me off track, you off tracker. You started talking about Jennifer Garner and Ben Affleck. Yeah, I don't know why. And you said Batman. She makes me happy. Anyway, so I've been looking at different standout comics recently and I've rewatched Mike Bebiglia's comedy special. Bloody love that.
Starting point is 00:14:30 Anyway, on my phone, on my phone and my Instagram app, if anyone knows that, I follow the Melbourne International Comedy Festival and I really missed that this year because there was no Melbourne International Comedy Festival because of COVID. It's one of my favourite times of the year. Anyway, they're just doing lots of throwback clips of past comedy festivals. And this comedian called Zinaib Johnson does a stand-up routine that is just so blisteringly funny. I had to then go and discover more about her.
Starting point is 00:15:01 So she's American. She's an actress and a writer as well. And her comedy is based on her unique point of view, which was shaped growing up in Harlem as one of 13 siblings in a Muslim family. After getting a degree in math and taking a job as a teacher, she quickly learned that she had a different calling. And she's just done so many different things.
Starting point is 00:15:19 She was named one of Variety's Top 10 Comics to Watch in 2019, and she is currently one of the hosts of Netflix's new show, 100 Humans. I'm not familiar with this show. Which I haven't watched yet either, but I will now because I really like her and I just deep-dived into her YouTube channel. Do you ever do that, just stumble on someone and then fall down a rabbit hole? Happens literally every day.
Starting point is 00:15:38 All right, okay, and probably everybody. I just don't really watch YouTube very much. I love finding someone who's really dedicated to something but like really small and like really niche and I'm like, I don't want to disturb this. I'm just going to watch. Why? Because you disturb it by like mentioning it and then exploding it or something.
Starting point is 00:15:57 I don't have that kind of pull. But, no, I just like to watch. You know what I mean? Like a creepy person. No, like, you know, like you're watching something in their natural environment. You'd be like, shh. Like they're like David Attenborough of YouTube.
Starting point is 00:16:10 Yes. Oh, good Lord. Anyway, I really recommend her. I think she's really fun and funny and I just really enjoyed her and I think she's a comedian. She's obviously got a big career anyway. You think she's a comedian, do you? So annoying.
Starting point is 00:16:20 obviously got a big career anyway. You think she's a comedian, do you? So annoying. Anyway, I reckon she's going to be even more well-known. Than me? Than you. Wow. Than she currently is. Wow.
Starting point is 00:16:34 Anyway, all right, so that's my recommendation. Off you chop. I watched a movie. I think it was on Prime Video. You watched a movie? That's unlike you. I know. It's very unusual.
Starting point is 00:16:43 It's called Loose. It's directed by Julius Ohner. You might know him as the director of the worst Cloverfield movie, which to be fair I don't entirely blame because I think they changed the name to a Cloverfield movie in editing in the very last minute. James, I've come up with a name for you. What is it? You're a real film buff.
Starting point is 00:17:01 I don't know what you're doing. Film buff. Film, yeah. Film buff. Anyway. Isn't that weird that if you're doing. Film buff. Film buff. Isn't that weird that if you're really into something you get called a buff? Yes. Why is that?
Starting point is 00:17:10 That's weird. I've never been a buff about anything. That's because you're not good at anything. You don't know anything. That's really mean. My feelings are hurt. I'm a real buff at coping with your shtick. That's probably true.
Starting point is 00:17:26 Anyway, you're a real film buff is all I wanted to say. Thank you. Film buff. Film buff. Stars are Kelvin Harrison Jr., Naomi Watts, Octavia Spencer, Tim Roth. Great cast. So it's about this liberal-minded couple in the U.S., Amy and Peter. They're forced to reconsider the image of their adopted son
Starting point is 00:17:43 after they discover he's written an extremely disturbing essay for his class at school. So he was tasked by Octavia Spencer to write an essay about somebody from history, from their perspective. And he picks this dictator who's known for these horrible atrocities and writes it about how violence is a way to keep people in line, like committing all these horrible acts on people. But the thing is, the reason it might be unusual or terrible for him is because he was adopted at 10 years old from a war-torn African nation. And even though he's had all this therapy and he seems like cured and he's like this golden child in his family and at school, everybody loves him because he's the American
Starting point is 00:18:24 success story. I mean, he's an immigrant who came over and he had horrible background but now he's kind of made good so it's also hinted at that when he was a child he was perhaps some kind of child soldier and forced to do a trope like atrocious things but as it said like he seems to have like gotten past this you know but then when you get get somebody at 10, there's a lot of things that, you know, could have already been, you know, damage could be done by that point, you know what I mean, especially in like a case like this. So there's a lot of expectations on him and everybody kind of expects certain things from him either, you know, like mostly good things,
Starting point is 00:19:03 mostly like he's this wonderful kid, but some other people are starting to think that maybe he's all a facade, it's a mask, and he's actually horrible. And you see with him as well, like he seems to feel the pressure of he has to be one of these two things. He's either the saviour in the success story or he's a monster. You know what I mean? Like he can't just be like a regular person.
Starting point is 00:19:25 It's really compelling and it's very ambiguous. Like there's a lot of grey area. It's all about like nature versus nurture and race and mental health and the failings of the education system and the good things about the education system and adoption and all these other things. I loved it. I thought it was really great. It's not like a light watch, but, you know,
Starting point is 00:19:45 I know you're not a big fan of violence in movies. There's none of that, but it's kind of, it's just a very interesting, compelling movie, which looks at some really interesting themes in a way that I hadn't seen before. The story that I hadn't seen before either, which is, I loved it. I thought it was great.
Starting point is 00:20:04 Yeah. Where can you get it? It's called Loose. It's on Prime. In Australia it's on Prime Video, but I don't know. either, which is, I loved it. I thought it was great. Yeah. Where can you get it? It's called Loose. It's on Prime. In Australia it's on Prime Video, but I don't know. I definitely will watch that. I think that sounds really fascinating. And Naomi Watts, Octavia Spencer.
Starting point is 00:20:13 Oh, brilliant. Naomi Watts is excellent. So good. I find the whole idea of Child Soldiers, what's the word? Like obviously it's devastating and then just really unsettling. Yeah. I mean obviously everyone does. It's not like I'm unique in thinking that.
Starting point is 00:20:30 No, but there is something about taking a kid and like brainwashing them. Yeah, and twisting them into something. Is that the theme of that is present in Blood Diamond? Yes, there is. Yeah, I remember watching that and that kind of imagery and the stories that you hear about that stays with you for a really long time. I just think becoming a parent as well, it's got worse for me.
Starting point is 00:20:53 I find it really hard and I think it's still really important to uncover these stories and examine what it does to people so that we can hopefully move to make actions to prevent things like that happening. Yeah. But it's a fine line, isn't it, between exposing that kind of content but then also what it does to your mental health as an audience member? Totally. And then also are you turning that kind of content into something
Starting point is 00:21:18 that's like voyeuristic or something? Yeah. And I find that, anyway, I still don't know where I sit with all of that. I didn't find this movie like that at all. Yeah, I thought like, yeah, Blind Diamond definitely did come to mind, but that's more kind of your action fare and, you know what I mean, it's about you've got to get a diamond and there's a specific bad guy, but this, it's not really, it's not like that.
Starting point is 00:21:38 It's like. It's a lot more gray area. And there's this really interesting conversation because, do you know Tim Roth? You probably know. You'd know him from things. He plays Naomi Watts' husband and he's talking about the things that they gave up in adopting this kid even though, you know,
Starting point is 00:21:51 they love him. The whole world is around him but he's saying you can't pretend that we haven't given up things because when you get a 10-year-old from a war-torn nation and then you don't have kids like other people might have kids, you know what I mean? You don't have the newborn stage and then they, you know, they kind of bond to you immediately. You've got this kid who's come from this horrible scenario
Starting point is 00:22:10 and you spend years taking them to therapy and, you know, building up trust and all those kinds of things. And he's not saying like I regret doing it, but he's saying you can't say that we didn't give up something in doing this good thing, you know? Yeah. It's really interesting because I wonder where to the white saviour stuff. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:28 And it sort of doesn't really look at that but there is that kind of it's more about the expectations where people are like, oh, no, you're good now because you came here and we fixed you. Like there is that kind. There's that element of it. Yeah, there's definitely that then, yeah. To put that on him. Yeah, there's that element of it. Yeah, that pressure. Yeah, there's definitely that then, yeah. To put that on him. Yeah, it's so interesting.
Starting point is 00:22:46 That reminds me of that movie about adoption and fostering kids. Lion? No, well, that is also a brilliant, oh, God, that's a brilliant film. Nicole Kidman is brilliant in that too. Lion is excellent. No, we watched it recently and it's about a couple and what's her, Rose Byr them plays the mother oh and mark warburgs yeah yeah yeah family instant family instant family yeah that is a really
Starting point is 00:23:12 interesting look at the foster care system that that couple adopt um three kids from when they're what it's kind of around what five and about 10 and a teenager. Yeah, something like that. Something like that. And it's based on a true story. The writer-director, I think. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And it's heartbreaking and wonderful and a really fascinating look at the foster care system, which I'd never thought about much before.
Starting point is 00:23:37 And in Australia, the adoption laws that we have are so much stricter than in other parts of the world. It's actually a lot harder here to adopt kids. Anyway, I just thought that's a beautiful look too. And I think it does still paint just how much it doesn't sort of pour it through rose-coloured glasses. You know, it does also highlight a lot of the difficulties too. So interesting.
Starting point is 00:24:02 Okay, that sounds really great. I have one extra thing. Let's do it. You know, I always love to stick a little gem in if I can. Sure. So this one is a suggestion to do with your kids. It's a guy, he's called Jack Hartman and he makes videos on the YouTube. Is he still making them? Yeah, he is. He's really prolific. So the reason I recommend him. He must be crushing it. Yeah. Well, I used to use him, his videos, not him specifically. What? His videos are really great for when I was teaching the first year of school.
Starting point is 00:24:30 We have a similar amount of YouTube videos. I mean, YouTube subscribers. Well, there you go. So you're just as famous as Jack Hartman. No, he has many, many videos. He has a BA in child psychology and an MA degree in clinical psychology from Assumption College. And he began his career working with autistic kids in Florida and also as a social worker with delinquent kids in St. Petersburg.
Starting point is 00:24:50 So you can tell that he has a real background in child sort of psychology and understanding kids. And also I think I can see the influence of working with autistic kids as well in his videos because they're very clear and they're very simple but there's a huge amount of work that's gone behind them to make them really educational and really catchy and you can't stop singing his songs. And he's terribly daggy.
Starting point is 00:25:15 Like the world's most terribly daggy dad. He is terribly daggy. He's terribly daggy. So it is strange that kids love his stuff so much. Kids don't know though. No, they don't. And that's the thing. It just surprised me every time.
Starting point is 00:25:29 Every time I show kids that whether we're working with Indigenous kids up north or in primary school here in Melbourne, kids have just really enjoyed his videos and got a lot out of them. They're really funny and silly but also grounded in a lot of great kind of clear education, particularly I reckon for preschool-age kids and prep grade 1, grade 2s. They're really excellent. Before they get too cool.
Starting point is 00:25:52 What's that? Yeah, before they get too cool. That's so true. So I really love the stuff he does around letters and numbers as well because they're sneakily learning when they don't even know. You've done such good work with our son on letters and numbers as well. Well, I'm tricking. The whole thing with these kids at this age is just to getting them
Starting point is 00:26:10 into wanting to do it. He read like a sentence this morning. It was crazy. Yeah, it was really cool. But look, it's early days and he might lose interest again because he's four and a half. But it's good fundamentals like that you're teaching him. Yeah, correct.
Starting point is 00:26:23 Yeah, well, that's the thing. But it's also about just trying to find ways in with kids at his age that you're not kind of forcing them to do it in a way that makes them frustrated and hate it. And Jeff Hartman has a way of kind of making it fun and a bit joyful. So anyway, yeah. So animal alphabet A to Z is a really good one. Oh, A to Z. Count to 100 every day is great because they do kind of fitness and actions as well as counting. And that's a really, really great one. And we've also been doing his series on the letters. So how to draw the letters and say the sounds and they're really clear and they help you with your body movements too, to make the shapes of letters. So that's my
Starting point is 00:27:00 little recommendation. If you have kids at home and you're stuck for something to do, do a little bit of Jack Hartman. It's fantastic stuff. Yeah. He's also on Spotify. So if you have kids at home and you're stuck for something to do, do a little bit of Jack Hartman. It's fantastic stuff. Yeah, he's also on Spotify. So if you don't want to do video content, you can just do the audio stuff. But the video content really does actually help them when they're going to do some learning. Very good. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:17 Let's talk about now the reviews of this show that people can make. Sure. You can do it in app, Claire. Did you know that? I certainly didn't this is from 27 17 sebastian 2004 and the title of this review is less successful because as we all know this is the less successful podcast of the two that i do it says i don't know why this podcast is rad there you go is that it's it that's as easy enough. I know why it's rad because I'm on it. That's the only reason. No, but I appreciate rad.
Starting point is 00:27:48 Me too. I feel like rad is a really good attitude. Reviews help. They help us beat other podcasts and that's my goal in life. Is it? Yeah, destroy energy. I thought it was just to be an all over well-rounded human being. No, to be the best at everything.
Starting point is 00:28:01 You know, to care about others. No. To contribute to society. To be a good dad. To be the best and mute all the. To be the best, everything. You know, to care about others. No. To contribute to society. To be the best. To be a good dad. To be the best and mute all the. To be the best, forget about the rest. To mute all the, yes, and mute all the WhatsApp groups that I'm in. Yeah, you do that constantly.
Starting point is 00:28:15 All right, I have an email. If you would like to email us with your suggestion, we would love to hear from you. You can email us at suggestiblepod at gmail.com. I have an email from Joseph Dana. Hello, Joseph. Hello, Claire. I love the show.
Starting point is 00:28:31 Love your banter and chemistry. Thanks, mate. I've been on a mission for a couple of months trying to suggest a show to the old boot. Oh, here we go. It's called Impulse. It's on YouTube Premium and it's a spin-off to the 2009 movie Jumper, which he deeply loves.
Starting point is 00:28:43 I am familiar with this. It's dark and gritty and real. It has superpowers in it, but it's more about loneliness, feeling different and trying to leave an abusive community and finding love. Also, drug cartels and difficult parent-child relationships. Ooh, a whole gamut of things. P.S. I don't know if you saw my precious messages,
Starting point is 00:28:58 but if you did, I think you suggesting the show to him could sneakily annoy him. What show was that? I missed that. I feel like he's annoying you. What was that? He feels like this could sneakily annoy him. What show was that? I missed that. I feel like he's annoying you. What was that? He feels like this could sneakily annoy him. Oh, because, yeah, I do get recommended this a lot.
Starting point is 00:29:10 Oh, do you? Because people are like, do you know there's a sequel? Have you watched that? No, I haven't yet. Oh, well, anyway, thanks, Joseph. He says, keep up the good work, pet the dog for me. Will do. Will do.
Starting point is 00:29:24 She's driving us a little bit crazy at the moment. She keeps barking. That's our fault because we're not walking her enough. Correct. Now, you're on your phone. I know. I had another thing to put on. You look like real bored.
Starting point is 00:29:33 I know. I had another thing to bring up and I can't find it. Come on. I was trying to find that video mentioned at the start. I know. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. Oh, from Hamilton.
Starting point is 00:29:41 No, no, no, no, no, no. The one about the guy who was like he insisted that he knew that he was pregnant or whatever. Oh, that guy. I'll try and find it and send it to Colleen. Nothing but professionalism here. That's right. Anyway, next week, whatever. The same thing from lockdown.
Starting point is 00:29:56 I can't. How many? We're four weeks in now. We've got two weeks left, but they said they could extend it. Yeah. Extreme lockdown. I don't know. I'm going to lose my fucking mind, Claire.
Starting point is 00:30:06 It's already gone, mate. It's gone. And I rubbed my ankle bouncing on the trampoline landing on a miniature basketball. Really hurt, Claire. I know. You came hobbling and you wanted me to look at it like a little kid who scratched his knee. No, I said just look at this and just tell me if it looks like not busted.
Starting point is 00:30:22 It's like really damaged. I thought it was fine, but it's always good to get a second opinion. And I wanted someone to kiss it and make it better also. Well, I did give you a little kiss and gave you a cuddle and made it feel better. That's not what happened. That's good. That is not what happened.
Starting point is 00:30:36 Put a little band-aid on it with a little Mickey mouth. No, you were like, we should strap this. And I was like, no, I'm fine. I'm a man. Yeah, I did say, and I should say, I told you to get off it and you just like hobbled around the house being like, ah. I had to do stuff. Don't be lying down.
Starting point is 00:30:50 Oh, yeah, this is true. You're busy. You're a busy man. Can I tell you my injury of this week? Sure. I feel kind of stupid. Go. Okay.
Starting point is 00:30:58 So I boiled some pasta. Okay. And then I never timed the pasta, though I probably should. I just eat a bit to check if it's ready. Okay, yeah. So I got a spoon out and I scooped out a spirally pasta thing and I blew on it and then I ate it, in the process, eating a bit of boiled water.
Starting point is 00:31:19 You fool. And scalding my bottom lip. And it was very painful. Did you come and speak to me? No, I didn't. I saved it for this podcast. Wow. And the good thing.
Starting point is 00:31:30 Scraping the bottom of the pot barrel. We are hard up for content here. At least mine was like, mine had action and suspense and a basketball. It did. Yeah, exactly. I was just cooking dinner for my family. The injuries that can happen. We're all living through something, let me tell you.
Starting point is 00:31:46 Yeah, and we have people who are doing all right out there. We've got it relatively easy. We can still work and jobs and all that kind of thing. Correct. So we're sending you all the love in the world. My favourite thing is seeing what celebrities are doing, going on their Instagram and being like, I need some inspiration from Josh Gad.
Starting point is 00:32:01 I like Josh Gad. Who's living in like a mansion or something. I like Josh Gad. In front of their infinity pool. Yeah. Oh, man, a pool would be great. Wouldn't it? Our son said that to me this week.
Starting point is 00:32:13 He was like, I really miss the pool, Mum. Yeah, because we used to go to the pool like twice a week. I know. Oh, well, I know what will cheer you up. What's that? What I did for love. This is not cheering me up. This is the opposite of cheering me up.
Starting point is 00:32:28 Look my eyes. I don't even know this song. Nobody knows this song. Everyone knows this song. It is so famous. Right. Message us at Mr. Sunday Movies at, what are you, Mrs. Sunday Movies? Yes, I am currently.
Starting point is 00:32:42 It is such a famous song. It's from a very famous musical, A Chorus Line, and literally I reckon everyone has sung this at school at some point. Disagree. And if you've watched the TV show Glee, it is definitely on there. I don't watch the TV. You know what I used to do when I was a young man, a younger man? Oh, so what?
Starting point is 00:32:58 For the TV show. Maybe 30 years ago. 30 years ago. The lead character from Glee, who's now dead, by the way. I know. What the hell, 2020? Yeah. I'm really kicking us all in the balls.
Starting point is 00:33:08 I don't even think that. I think it was before this. But anyway, me and him. Yeah, there's the Glee curse. There's the Glee. Me and him were. I think there was someone else who died from Glee. But me and him were the same age when he was alive.
Starting point is 00:33:19 Now I'm older than him because he stopped aging because of his death. That's the way time works. That's the way time works. That's the way time works. So when I was at school, when I was teaching, sorry, the kids would be like, oh, my God, we love Gleam. We love this guy, this cool high school guy. And I'm like, guess what? We're the same age.
Starting point is 00:33:36 And they're like, no. Like your cool high school friend or whatever. We're the same age. He's 27 like me. Do you know my favourite bit of like content that I heard from you when you started back teaching at the primary school after we'd been away up north and you came back? One of the five sixes ran into another class and told the class
Starting point is 00:34:04 that a Calvin Klein model was working and teaching your class. That is not true. That is so true. One of your colleagues told me that. One of the kids ran in. That is a bunch of- Because you were all felt from doing nothing up north
Starting point is 00:34:15 except for getting tanned and running around the oval. And I think obviously they didn't have many young, handsome teachers working at the school. And so they- Well, that's a real slap into the face of the other guy who started at the same time as me. Yeah, well, I don't know what they said about him. I'm sure they said wonderful things too because he's a legend.
Starting point is 00:34:33 But I think that's so funny. I think if that is a true story, which it isn't, that would have quickly worn off the novelty of that. Yeah, look, I'm not saying they still would think that. I don't know. I just think I'm real unlooking. So stuff like that. You're very handsome.
Starting point is 00:34:54 Well, thank you. Well, you are. And, you know, you've got charm. You've got a certain something about you that some people would find appealing. Your personality. Yeah, at some times, yeah. I've got personality. I actually, something hit me recently.
Starting point is 00:35:07 I read somewhere someone said that Claire is very annoying, but it's a joy to listen to her annoy you. And then I initially was laughing at that. I was like, ha, ha, ha, how great. And then I went, oh. That's an insult. What if I'm annoying? What if I am really annoying and no one has ever told me and I'm the annoying person?
Starting point is 00:35:31 You know when you have a group of people and you're like, will she just shut the F up and everyone's staring at me? Look, I've met your friends and you're not that person. I can name them. I'm going to name them right now. Here we go. No one. But, you know, it's the same fear.
Starting point is 00:35:45 It lives in the same spot. You never know, do you? Okay. That fear of being the annoying one is the same fear of being the one with bad breath that smells. Yeah. Like I know. In the same place. I know people, for example, who, you know, I'm friends with and they're like, I don't
Starting point is 00:35:59 care what anyone thinks of me. Like, fuck everybody and whatever. I don't even care. And I just want to be like, but, you know, if you really knew what people think of you, I think you'd be quite upset actually. Like you're like, I don't even care, I'm a bastard. I'm like, yeah, but if you really knew, like people don't think you're cool and cavalier, people just hate you.
Starting point is 00:36:17 That's the difference. I do think though that there is something to be said for walking your own path. Totally. But this is not that. I'll mention who it is after and you'll be like, though, that there is something to be said for walking your own path. Totally. But this is not that. I'll mention who it is after and you'll be like, oh, yeah. No. I actually saw a hilarious comment that I think Felicity Ward,
Starting point is 00:36:34 one of my favorite comedians, mentioned or tweeted where she said something about people's bad breath and wearing masks. And she's like, yes, it has been that bad for many years and you've just never known and she said it in a much funnier way yeah but i just thought that was quite funny that that um people are discovering they have bad breath what is the what is the purpose of bad breath like what not the purpose what is the what's the cause i think there's lots of different because it can be genetic it can be diet it can just be oral hygiene in general, right? Yeah, yeah, totally.
Starting point is 00:37:07 And I think, yeah, it can be diet. I think in Sex and the City there's a character called the Turtle who has perpetually bad breath and I think it's like Chinese herbs or something that he's been taking. Okay. So that's just in the movie. I don't know. I think there are clinical conditions where you genuinely have bad breath.
Starting point is 00:37:23 Yes, halitosis. Yeah, and then I guess maybe it's also about, yeah, what you eat or whether how well you clean your teeth into hygiene. I don't know. I know people don't really like that bloody stale coffee breath and what I'm talking about. Yeah, I know. I have that, I think.
Starting point is 00:37:37 I don't think your breath's all right. All right. Maybe I'm just used to it. Oh, thanks. You did wake up the other morning and say to me geez yeah that was that was i was like oh my god well that's because i got to sleep in for like once in my god damn life because you're normally the one that wakes up late but you get you stay late so it's all equally in the in the end but i actually got to sleep in and you and it never happens and you came in and you were like oh
Starting point is 00:38:02 you literally never experienced my morning breath because I get up three or four hours early, maybe five hours early. Oh, calm down. Maybe today you did, but yes. Oh, no, usually. That's probably true. Yeah, but you go to bed really late, so, you know. That's true.
Starting point is 00:38:17 It all comes down to the wash. Anyway, we've been banging on for way too long. What time is it? How long have we been? 38 minutes, mate. That's too long. Way too long. Get out of here.
Starting point is 00:38:24 Let's get out of here. I've got to go to bed. All right, send in your fucking whatever's. Let's go. Let's get out of here. Let's get out of here, mate. Love you guys. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:32 You're all right too, mate. This kombucha can. Pretty good. I drink too many of those. You do. It's better than drinking beer. I think even though I crack one of these, it's better than drinking a beer. You don't like beer.
Starting point is 00:38:44 Exactly. Better than drinking a beer. You don't like beer. Exactly. Better than drinking a beer, though. I was drinking like four beers in a row. I bet you it'll come out one day that kombucha's bad for you. Just like everything. Fucking whatever. You know what? After 2020, I will believe anything.
Starting point is 00:38:58 If someone said to me that aliens were landing tomorrow, I would be like, you know what? If that did happen, I'd be like, we just don't have time for this shit. Like this is not, can you just fucking not? Fucking beat it. Just wait till 2021. Like it would just be like, it would be more like. Yeah, it really would be.
Starting point is 00:39:17 Like it wouldn't be amazing and it wouldn't be terrifying. It would just be like, okay. Yeah. All right. Totally. Totally. I completely. Yeah. Agree. Totally. I completely, yeah, agree. So you hear that, aliens, please don't land.
Starting point is 00:39:28 I think if there's supposed to be like a meteor hitting on Monday, like there's a chance that it could hit the earth. And I'm like, whatever, whatever. Like fucking whatever. Honestly, after this year I will. Like a 0.4% that it could hit or something. Oh, Lord. Maybe it's already happened.
Starting point is 00:39:43 I don't know. Maybe I just read a fake article. I don't even know. That's what's happening. I read an article about conspiracy theories and how the reason that there are so many at the moment, there's like hundreds around, is just because people are so bored. And it's Facebook.
Starting point is 00:39:58 They've got way too much time to think. Facebook don't like step on anything. Yeah. They don't give a shit. But I think people also, when they feel out of control just want to create things to sort of say it's all a conspiracy. When something's wrong, it's like one of those things where it's like you know something's wrong or you feel that, you know,
Starting point is 00:40:16 so you look for a reason. Yeah, exactly. Sometimes it's because the moon landing's fake, but like that's not your problem, mate. No. It's much scarier to kind of acknowledge that it's chaos and that you just don't know. No, I like that. landing's fake. But, like, that's not your problem, mate. No. It's much scarier to kind of acknowledge that it's chaos and that you just don't know. No, I like that.
Starting point is 00:40:29 It's good. It's better than there. I don't know. I like the idea of chaos other than, like, people pulling the strings and ruining shit. But it's probably a combination. It's probably a combination. Anyway.
Starting point is 00:40:40 All right, Maria, I'm leaving. I'm leaving. I've got to edit something. All right. See you later. Goodbye. Sorry about singing at you so much. In Distella for Caravan of Garbage. That's what I'm editing. I'm leaving. I've got to edit something. See you later. Goodbye. Sorry about singing at you so much. In Distella for Caravan of Garbage.
Starting point is 00:40:46 That's what I'm editing. There he goes. Okay, goodbye. We'll ban this out of the audio. Goodbye. Just say goodbye. I'm worried you're leaving the room. You sing all you want.
Starting point is 00:40:54 The sweetness and the sorrow. Goodbye. Wish me luck the same. I'm actually closing the door. To you. But I can't regret oh he's gone have a great week guys
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