Suggestible - Why Did You Say That Name?!

Episode Date: April 21, 2022

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Welcome to Suggested Podcast. My name is Claire Totty. James is here also. Hello. It's James Clement. That's right. Otherwise known as Mr. Sunday Poovies. What?

Got him. She's back, baby. I have heard that before. Probably more than once. Oh, I thought I was being funny. No, no. It's still funny. I mean, it's that and I get a lot of people on our review that we did

of Ghostbusters 2016 being like, I can't believe that you said Ghostbusters 2 wasn't as good as Ghostbusters 2016. Oh, my God, you don't even know anything about Ghostbusters. Oh, mate. And that's maybe true. But I'm right. Anyway, Claire.

You know more than me, which wouldn't be hard. Ghostbusters. That's the theme song, isn't it? That's right. Anyway, Claire. You know more than me, which wouldn't be hard. Ghostbusters. That's the theme song, isn't it? That's right. Ghostbusters. I'm a ghost and I like to bust or busk on the street. Woo. Woo.

Ghostbusters. Anyway, I'm sorry we weren't around last week. I had a weird fever. You did. It was not fun. Yeah, you're a bit crook. Not COVID, which is I feel the need to say that every time. You do, don't you? It wasn't COVID. It was just another weird fever. You did? It was not fun. Yeah, you're a bit crook. Not COVID, which is – I feel the need to say that every time. You do, don't you?

It wasn't COVID. It was just another weird bug. It's a thing that happened, yeah. And it was not fun, especially for me, but mostly for you. Yeah, even more so for me. That's right. I lay around like a lady of leisure. But look, we're not here to complain about how Claire is failing as a wife and mother.

We're here to discuss things – We're certainly not. We're here to tell her how wonderful she is and how amazing. We're here to discuss things that we've watched, read or listened to. Claire, do you have a book or movie or anything that you want to talk about this week? I certainly do. I'm so excited.

Okay, this time, this episode is a tale of two Marthas, James. Oh, my God. I know. I've got two different Marthas to recommend. Why did you say that name? Was there a way to say that name? Why did you say that name? What's wrong with the name? Why did you say that name? It's from Batman v Superman.

Because it turns out that Superman's mother's name is Martha. No. And Batman's mother's name, guess what? Martha. Also Martha. What? And that's a big turning point, the crux of that movie. Wow.

Is when Batman's going to stab Superman with a big kryptonite spear and Superman goes, save Martha. And he goes, why did you say that name? It's when Batman's going to stab Superman with a big kryptonite spear and Superman goes, save Martha. And he goes, why did you say that name? It's really funny. It's like it's supposed to be like dramatic and emotional. And they find like there's a connection where Batman realises like, oh, my God, just like me, he's got a mother. But it's really just like this is a strange scene.

That's so weird. And why would the writers make their mothers both called Martha? Why does that mean that they would like each other more? Clearly they both had mothers. Everyone has a mother. Because Batman wasn't recognising the humanity in Superman. He was like, he's an alien and if there's a 1% chance that he could destroy the planet, I've got to stab this guy

with a kryptonite spear. Hang on, hang on. Pause. Is Martha the alien mother or the regular Earth mother? No. Why would his alien mother be called Martha? I don't know. What's her name?

Minkleton. Oh, my God. That's a great question. What is her mother's name? His father's name is Kal-El and her name is. Well, isn't this just always the way women don't even get a bloody name? And you know Kal-El and he's always showing up in a cave. Is she getting to show up in the cave?

No. Inequality. Okay, she did get to show up in the Superman sequels because Marlon Brando got written out of them, so they just went, who else do we have? Okay. Well, the woman that doesn't have a name apparently. Exactly.

I thought you knew everything about Superman and Superman X-Men. Lara, I did know that. Her name's Lara. That's like a regular name. He gets a school space name. So she could be called Martha? Yeah, but Martha's not a space name, is it? Oh, I guess Lara's like Lara Croft.

What did you say that name? Well. You should watch Batman v Superman one day. I know I have to. Now that I've opened up this can of worms of Martha's. It goes for four hours. I don't know if I'm Arthur or Martha now. Arthur Curry.

Aquaman's real name. Anyway. Did you know that? No, I did not. Would you laugh if I did? That would make it really weird. I would be very surprised. Because I don't really remember anything.

It is strange, though, when you look at, like, Jason Momoa is Aquaman and you're like, his name in the movie is Arthur. Like, it doesn't fit. God, it's almost like these movies are dumb. What? What did you say? Come at me. What did you say?

I'm sick of them. I said it to you in the kitchen and you were like don't say that to anyone on the internet because it's our job. You asked me if I'd seen the Thor movie. I was like I can't even remember. You said that because we had the Thor trailers this week. And I liked Thor Ragnarok and even then, I just can't be doing it anymore. I feel like there are more pressing things.

I need to listen to more depressing things. I understand. You've got to listen to depressing things about the climate or whatever you do. Correct, exactly. Listen to the daily podcast. Anyways, what's that thing? All right, so the two Marthas. So the tale of two Marthas.

The first Martha is a Martha called Martha Marlowe, which I also like the alliteration of her name. It's great. It's great. It's good. I went to see her in concert. I did tell you about her briefly. You did. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Now I found her through an Instagram ad. There you go. Really? I know. Oh, my God, it works. Sometimes it really does serve you excellent things that you really would be into. It's true.

And she is just magical as an artist. She's a little like Joni Mitchell. Yeah. And she's just fascinating. She's a little like Joni Mitchell. Yeah. And she's just fascinating. So her debut album is called Medicine Man. It's on Spotify and you can also purchase it directly through her website. Yeah, do that. It's got widespread critical acclaim.

It's been nominated for an ARIA Award, an Australian Music Prize Award, an Australian Women in Music Award as well. It's got all original compositions. She's also a visual artist as well. So her music and her art are really interlinked. She paints landscapes. What kind of landscapes? Now, moody ones.

Oh, moody, spooky ones. Like things. Yes. Anyway, so she recorded this particular album with a 17-piece string ensemble led by Veronique Sedet and conducted by Daniel Denholm, all of whom are really incredible producers of the likes of Tim Minchin, Megan Washington and Fronte. So she comes from a long line of musicians as well. Her dad is a very famous.

Did you say Frente or Fronte? Is it Frente? Frente, isn't it? Frente. Yeah, I thought I said Frente. It's terrific. Why did you say that name? Why did you say that name? Sorry, go on. I said it because I like the name Martha. It's Frente, isn't it? Frente. Yeah, I thought I said Frente. It's Riddick. Why did you say that name? Why did you say that name?

Sorry, go on. I said it because I like the name Martha. It's true. Not more though. That's for another day. Anyway, what I loved about it is that her voice is so ethereal and she as a person is very ethereal. She's got a really interesting backstory.

She lives with a rare autoimmune condition and she also has bilateral talapes. What's that? Which it means that she has difficulty walking and she was born with a rare autoimmune condition and she also has bilateral talapes. What's that? Which it means that she has difficulty walking and she was born with a club foot. Okay, right, right. So she lives with a lot of chronic pain, which actually means that her art is kind of her way of almost existing in the world. She lives in her head a lot.

She spends a lot of time in her studio, in her family home home where she just kind of absorbs herself in jazz and paints and writes. And she's done a lot of songwriting workshops because her songwriting is really complex. The lyrics are incredibly beautiful and are inspired by one of my favourite poets, Mary Oliver, among others like Walt Whitman. And in concert she was just mesmerising. She can't play the guitar at the moment because of her illness. Right.

And so she just sat and sang with this beautiful ensemble of piano, drums and it was just I can't even explain how beautiful. I was so blown away by it and moved but also lyrically. There's some really interesting things. She's got a new album coming out that's kind of a story of one guy which is kind of really interesting as well she kind of creates these like landscapes and moods and the whole album is based around that whereas medicine man is based around her kind of searching for meaning in in her life so it's very personal as well um yeah and there's a beautiful song called i am, so that's one of my favourites I think, which is really just

about her idea of spirituality and being the river and the sea and the sky and I know you're going to hate this. No, not at all. That sounds really cool. It's really, really moving. Sounds like an amazing person. Yeah, she's a really, really interesting kind of unique person and she comes out and explains her music in this, you know,

when you meet someone whose's every word they say has been really thought about? Unlike me where everything just comes out all at once. It's so crafted in the way that she expresses herself as well. So, yeah, she's just wonderful and I've really enjoyed finding her music and I've listened to Medicine Man over and over again. So if you're someone who's into Joni Mitchell and that kind of folk style of singing, and Marvin Gaye, she is inspired by this as well,

and jazz, there's obviously hints to jazz in the music too, so it's really layered. Anyway, I loved it. Terrific. That's my first Martha. Oh, but you've got a second Martha. I've got a second one but I'll save it because it's your turn. Ready to go.

That's how we go in this show. Well, I've got something here. I've got a physical book in my hands, Claire, and you've got a second one. I've got a second one, but I'll save it because it's your turn. Ready to go. That's how we go in this show. Well, I've got something here. I've got a physical book in my hands, Claire. And you might be like, how did you get hold of that? Well, the reason is, first I'll tell you about it. It's called Gustav and Henry, right? And it's volume one of a series of children's books, and they're about Gustav, the pig, and Henry.

Oh, they're so cute. And Henry Normal, who's Gustav's best friend, and they go on all sorts of adventures. This first volume has three stories in it. One is Gustav Space Pig, where they have an adventure in space because they hit a shuttlecock all the way to the moon and they have to go get it and retrieve it from a crab. And then there's Gustav Time Pig, where they have to go

on a time-travelling adventure to return a library book. And then Detective Gustav and the Great Pig Day Mystery, where they have to find the mystery of who ate the cake on Pig Day, and Pig Day being the opposite of Christmas. Now, this is actually written by Andy Matthews. Oh, we love Andy Matthews. People might know from, well, Twin the Think Tank podcast, and they do a sketch show, Andy and Al, and do a sketch show every single year and it's always incredible. They also write with Sean McAuliffe on Mad As Hell as well on television and he just messaged me out of the blue.

He said, can I send you a copy of this? And I'm like, fuck yeah, I love books. Send me a book. Send me a free book, Andy, I said. So anyway, it's amazing. It's really, really funny and just really clever. And it's also like there are jokes that I read it with our son over a few nights because it's broken into like distinct stories.

Like we did like one every like second night because he's like, I know I want to like space this out. So like, you know, we don't just burn through them all at once. And they're decently length stories. So it's kind of they're kind of written, as you can see, with this kind of they're part like junior stories. So they're kind of written, as you can see, with this kind of – they're part like junior novel, part comic book, part like picture story. Which is just perfect for our son who's sort of at that age.

And there's just like – there's wonderful just like little jokes and images. By the way, it's also drawn by our Peter Thomas as well. So Andy Matthews wrote it and Peter Thomas did the illustrations. Or as he puts in the back in his little description, Andy Matthews who drew the words and Peter Thomas who wrote the pictures. Oh, that's cute. It's just incredibly funny as well. And look, I say like it does work on two levels because like there's jokes in it that like

only an adult would get in jokes that, you know, a kid would find. But I also find there's a lot of stuff that's kind of, it's like right, like it's just funny stuff that everybody can appreciate. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. It's not just like strictly for like this joke's for an adult and this joke is for a kid. There's a lot of stuff that works like for everybody. Like one of my favourite jokes in it, I can't even remember what it's

in reference to, but it's something like it's colder, it was colder than a refrigerator inside a refrigerator. Like just little things like that. And it's just great. And they have fun little like friendships. They have a fun little friendship, the two of them. And Gustav is kind of like he's doing all like the crazy ideas and the big thinking and Henry, she's more, Henry normal.

She's more the kind of like the level-headed one but also like builds, the one who has to build the spaceship when they have to go to the moon and whatever. It's just terrific. Look, if you like, I don't know, like kids like Captain Underpants or like Bluey, for example. Yeah, even the Treehouse books. Yeah, the Treehouse books. You know, kind of around the like anywhere between like, I don't know,

six and twelve probably. Or Ando. Any of Ando's books. I'm trying to think of some more like international examples of that. Like Ninja Dog. What's that Ninja Dog one called? Karate Dog. Dog Man.

Oh, Dog Man. If you like Dog Man, the same guy who wrote Captain Underpants. It's kind of like that kind of vein. But it's great. And so volume one is out now. I think this came out like last month. There is a second volume on the way. But, yeah cannot recommend this enough i'm going to be i'll have to get the second one and our son talked about it independently he loved it he was telling me all about it well i

said tonight because we're actually we we read the last one tonight and i said to him i need i'm going to talk about this on the podcast tonight could Could you mind if I borrow this? And he goes, yes, but make sure you bring it back. So that was good. That's so great. And I love the illustrations too. They're so weird in the best possible way. Like weird and surprising. It's just really like I feel like a lot of the times like celebrities,

not that Andy's like a massive celebrity, you know, kind of guy or whatever, but I feel like they feel like half-assed these books or like they've got a ghost writer. But there's a lot of this like if you've listened to any of his stuff or seen any of it, there's a lot of like him in it, you know what I mean? Yeah, completely. It's got a really distinct voice. It doesn't feel generic.

It feels like. Very much from Andy's world. Yeah, and that's kind of I like how like strange and specific it is as well, you know what I mean? Yeah. But as I said, it's like it's super accessible. So, yeah, and he's been reading it a bit by himself as well because oh, it's also got like word finds and stuff in it

and there's like a couple of recipes and things like that in there as well and they kind of tweak them. I won't spoil it, but yeah. Oh, super fun. You should read it with them as well. Yeah, I'm definitely going to do that. That's so fun. Oh, thank you.

That's an excellent recommendation. I love it. And it was free. Oh, my goodness. So if you just message Andy Matthews, he'll just send you a book, it turns out. Yeah, excellent. Good.

He doesn't want to sell them for dollars. No, no, no. He just wants to. Just to send out a whole lot of free copies. Yeah. Where can you purchase them? You can purchase them online. It's in, let me just check, Gustav and Henry.

So, yeah, it's published by, I think it's, is it Hardy Grant? Yeah, it's published by Hardy Grant, but you can buy it online. It's at the Kindle store, but I recommend getting like a physical. Yeah, because the colour illustrations are gorgeous too. But, yeah, you can buy it online. It's at the Kindle store, but I recommend getting like a physical copy of it as Yeah, because the colour illustrations are gorgeous too. But yeah, you can buy it online. It's like, it's everywhere. It's on like readings and booktique.com. I don't think it's on Amazon. You know what I love about these types of books, right? That are that hybrid of illustrations, sort of graphic novel with the kind of writing, but that's a little bit more complex. It's such

a great bridge for kids who are at that age where they're not ready for books without pictures or chapter books and they're fun but they also do push them because the language is actually really great. Yeah. It's not too simplistic that it's not going to kind of make them jump that little bit forward. And because of the pictures and how funny they are,

even if they can't get every word, they can still be there and access them on their own. You can still get it. Yeah, absolutely. Which is really fun. So it's also on Booktopia. It's at Target. It's at Big W.

It's everywhere. Fantastic. All right, Gustav and Henry. Gustav and Henry. I love it. Henry with an I. Almost as good as if it was called Martha and Martha. Oh, no.

I forgot we were doing another Martha thing. Oh, that's terrible. Don't say that name. Yeah. What is it? Why did you say that name? Why did you say that name? Yeah.

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So, on to me again. On to you again. I'm so excited. Okay, so this is the week of alliteration for me. Why do you say that, Claire? Okay, because this potentially might be one of the best books I've ever read. Oh, what's it called? A friend of mine, Jess, recommended it to me.

It's called Sorrow and Bliss Bliss and it's by Meg Mason. More alliteration. Martha Marlowe, Meg Mason. Wait, I thought you said there was going to be Martha in it. There is. Hold on to your hat. Okay. The main character's name is Martha.

Why did you say that there? Why did you say that there? I don't... You gotta see the image of it. He's wearing a big Batman helmet. He's got a big spear. I'm putting it out there. It's dumb. Yeah, no, it is.

Everybody knows that. It's so dumb. Although some people take that very seriously. I know. I'm sorry if I've offended you. It is very funny. What I love is that they're so serious. Yeah, I know.

They're so serious. That's one of the things I love about, like, the Zack Snyder Superman or Batman movies. They're very serious. And there's a guy in a bat suit. Yeah. It's like Ben Affleck and he's 46 years old. He's screaming.

It's really good. Oh, who, by the way, is now engaged to J-Lo. Congratulations to them. Are they engaged? Yep. Get the fuck out of here. Congratulations to them. I did not see that.

Yep, yep, yep, yep. Wow. Late in life romance. Kind of mirroring that movie that I watched where she was starring recently. Is it? What's that movie? Marry Me? Did I talk about that? Yeah, you did. With Owen Wilson. I watched where she was starring recently. Is it, what's that movie, Marry Me? Did I talk about that?

Yeah, you did. With Owen Wilson. I loved it. It was great. I watched that while I was delirious and sick. It was a perfect thing to watch. Okay, anyway, back to the book. My book.

Can I get back to the book? Please, yeah. All right, so my friend Jess recommended it and I literally could not put it down. Oh, my goodness. It was one of the best books I've ever read. So I'll just read the blurb because it doesn't sound like much happens in it.

This novel is about a woman called Martha. Why did you say that? I got that, Claire. She knows there is something wrong with her, but she doesn't know what it is. Her husband, Patrick, thinks she's fine and he says everyone has something. The thing is just to keep going. Martha told Patrick before they got married that

she didn't want to have children. He said he didn't mind either way because he has loved her since he was 14 and making her happy is all that matters, although he does not seem to be able to do it. By the time Martha finds out what is wrong, it doesn't really matter anymore. Is it too late to get the only thing she has ever wanted? Or maybe it will turn out that you can stop loving someone and start again from nothing if you can find something else to want. The book is set in London, Oxford. It's sad and funny. Oh, my God.

It's just like Ben Affleck and Henry Cavill in that movie where they became friends. Anyway, so really that's the plot. So there's not a lot of plot. Her family, it's basically about her family who's very dysfunctional as well and her mother is an alcoholic and her father is a wannabe poet and their house when growing up was very chaotic and she grew up very close to her sister.

And so a lot of the book is this kind of relationship she has with her sister that's hilarious and funny and her sister's probably my favourite character. She's super sarcastic and that's really interesting. And it's clear Martha has a lot of mental health challenges and is a writer but is also incredibly funny and bright while also being incredibly depressed. Okay, yeah.

So the whole thing is like brutal, hilarious, compassionate and darkly funny. It's sort of blistering actually in its writing. It is a lot like Fleabag in a book. It's got that kind of feel to it. It's also just unputdownable, compelling, devastating, all of the things. It's so character driven. So every character in it is someone who is unhinged in

different ways, but incredibly funny either on purpose or by accident. Was it called again? Sorrow and Bliss. Sorrow and Bliss. Yeah. And it's just, it's just wonderful. And I just, I, I cannot recommend the writing highly enough. And it just reminded me, you know, sometimes you read a book and it reminds you why you read books? Yeah, absolutely. And to be like when you watch a really amazing film and you go, that's why I watch films. Oh, that's right.

I just watched 40 very average movies in a row. Yeah, exactly. And then you read a book like that and just the craftsmanship and even just the chemistry between all of the characters, like the chemistry between Martha and her husband Patrick, who is sort of very stable and steady and sensible and she's kind of wildly erratic and often incredibly depressed and suicidal and also incredibly articulate and observant about life.

And, yeah, it's just this swing back and forth between the two of them that's really, really just funny. And it also leaves you hanging on like very funny lines that just get thrown away and they're kind of weird and then you move on. Yeah, I just cannot recommend it enough. So, yeah, it's Sorrow and Bliss. I just want to give it to everybody I know.

That's awesome. Yeah, it's one of those and it's just so beautiful. I've got a quote if you want me to. Oh, my God, I love quotes. All right. This is sort of. You know what my favorite quote is, though? Why did you say that, man?

It's the greatest quote in cinematic history. I don't know if I can read my quote now. God, I always choose such fucking depressing things. No, that's good. Really? Our review is about how depressing you are that I got this week. What's your – It's so fucking depressing.

I just realized I'm looking at this quote going, God, this is so depressing. Nah, let's go. All right. Everyone likes what they like. That's right. And it's because I'm quite cheerful in my natural disposition. I actually love really depressing, dark things, whereas you, in your natural demeanor, are things, whereas you, in your natural

demeanor, are quite, you know. I'm horrible. Cynical and horrible, except you actually just really love laughing at dumb things. It's true. So, you know, I feel like you probably are doing you better. But anyway, here we go. Let's soldier on with my depressing quote. Martha, he said afterwards, lying next to me, everything is broken.

Wow. Is that the quote? Is that the whole quote? Fuck. Why'd you pick that? I was sick when I chose this quote. All right. Let me read it again. I can't get through this now. Everything is broken and messed up and completely fine. And that is what life is. It's only the ratios that change, usually on their own. As soon as you think that's it, it's going to be like this forever, they change again. That is what life was and how it continued for three years after that. The ratios changing on their own.

Broken, completely fine, a holiday, a leaking pipe, new sheets, happy birthday, a technician between nine and three, a bird flew into the window, I want to die, please. Jesus. I can't breathe. I think it's a lunch thing. I love you. I can't do this.

Both of us thinking it would be like that forever. It's a pretty depressing quote. That is pretty depressing. You ain't kidding. I know. Actually, I've got a different one. Maybe I'll just read that. Sure.

Can I do that? Yeah, absolutely. So wait, the main characters, this is Patrick. Patrick. Patrick and Martha. All right, so the context of this quote is that Martha and her sister are communicating only in photos of Kate Moss. Okay.

On their mobiles. Because. I do that. Not with Kate Moss. You know, it happens a lot with Mason. Like we'll mention somebody and then we find like different gifs of that person. Anyway, sorry, go on. I love that.

All right. So here's her in the car. I screenshotted a picture of Kate Moss in a fur coat ashing a cigarette into a hotel topiary and said, I'm thinking about retraining as a prostitute to Patrick in the car. In the middle of overtaking a van, Patrick shot me a look. Okay, first, I don't think you're supposed to use that term anymore. Second, you know this house is in a cul-de-sac.

They won't be for the foot traffic. I went back to my phone. That's good. That's it. So good. Claire, I've got to ask something I quick recommend. Okay, yes, yes. I actually watched Upload Season 2.

I watched Upload Season 1 in 2020. All right. This season is only two episodes. Remind me what Upload is again. Well, that's what I'm going to tell you. A man is able to choose his own afterlife after his untimely death. So basically he dies unexpectedly, right? This is like that Black Mirror episode.

Yes, it is. Where that woman finds her dead husband in a box. Yeah. And he follows her around. Yeah, he's a robot or whatever. Yeah, it's creepy. It's a good one. It's a good one.

It's got Hayley Utwell and Domino Hulklison. But, yeah, a robot or whatever. Yeah, it's creepy. It's a good one. It's a good one. It's got Hayley Utwell and Domino Hulk Leeson. But, yeah, so basically he dies but it turns out that it's the future. It's the year 2033 and you can upload your consciousness into the cloud so you can live in a virtual Verizon advertised and where you pay them to live like in a virtual afterlife in a simulation. Do you know what I mean? So you live on your consciousness in an afterlife, but it's a conspiracy maybe he was murdered because he knew too much or whatever.

So it talks about like so it's about his life in there and also his relationship with people on the outside world who were still alive because he's basically still alive, like his consciousness still exists, right? So I think this was like a massive improvement on the first season. The first season I thought was fine. I think I called it something like a not as good the good place because you know about the afterlife. But I thought season two was like it was tighter and it was funnier and it developed more of the relationships.

It explored kind of more interesting ideas. The other thing is it stars some people that you might know. Robbie Amell. Do you know him? Brother of Stephen Amell, who's in Arrow. Ah, yes, yes, yes. You don't know him. No, I have no idea. Andy Allo, who's a love interest. Allegra Edwards and Zaynab Johnson. Oh, yes, I know.

I love Zaynab Johnson. And you interviewed her for your podcast as well. I did and she's bloody excellent. So she's really great. She's so great. I mean everyone's good in it but she's really like just really funny and just kind of mean and biting and witty. It's just a, like, it surprised me.

Like, it's just a really good show. I've seen it advertised on her Instagram and I haven't actually watched it. It really found its feet. And when it was, like, seven episodes and finished, I was like, hey, what the fuck? Like, seven episodes? Who does seven episodes of anything? But, yeah, it's good.

And I think, yeah, you'd have to watch season one. But season one's not a drag. Like it's still, it's good. It's good. But it gets much better. And that's the thing, right? Sometimes these things do really need to just get their feet. I recently watched Space Force season two.

And Space Force season one is by all the creators of The Office and Steve Carell was in it and whatever. No, we thought it was going to be amazing. And it was fine. But season two, again, like with The Office and Parks and Rec, massive improvement, way better. Wow. So sometimes, and I guess the difference is when you've got kind

of a big property like this and you've got big names in it, you know what I mean, and Amazon are doing it or whatever and Steve Corral and whatever, you do get a chance to keep going. Whereas often shows are just like, no, you're done, that's crap. Isn't that sad though actually? It is sad. You know, depressing Claire. But because back in the day there are so many shows take a while

to find their feet and because they've invested so much money in them and, you know, it's on TV, there's not streaming services, people could do that. Yeah. So you wonder how many shows have been acts that actually were really great but just needed another turn. Yeah, needed a couple of seasons to find their feet. I mean, I get it also.

And often when people are like, it gets good in the second season, or you just wait until you get to season four. I'm like, nah, fuck that. No, thank you. Yeah, seems like a lot. That's why I haven't watched Star Wars The Clone Wars because it takes like three seasons to get good. And I'm like, I'm not watching three seasons of that.

It's not that much. You know what I mean? You know what I mean. Anyway, Claire. Correct. You know what one of my favourite things that we do on the show is? Do you know? Is it drinking kombucha?

No, Claire. Is it listening to me recommend a very sad thing and then you talk about something set in space or an apocalypse? No, Claire, no. It's. What is it? But it's also people reviewing the show. That's one of my favourite things.

Go for it. So this week we've got one from Tyron101 who says, Good Lord. Five stars. Thank you. You can just do it in app. That's incredible. Amazing.

What a world. What a world. We're talking at the same time. I know. We should be... Good Lord, that short story about the same time. I know. We should be. Good Lord, that short story about the father has me wrecked. Remember that one you read out?

Yes, I do. I really like to get people in that field. You've got so many people with that. As a father, as a human, tears streaming down my cheeks. Oh, great pot as always, et cetera and so forth. It's from Matt from Nashville, Tennessee. Oh, Matt. Matt. Matt. Are you a professional model?

Because that's a 10 I see in terms of reviews. That was. I give your five-star review 10 stars. I would apologize for making you cry, but also I think tears are good. I agree. Tears are good. Sometimes it's good to work through your emotions. And I can think like an example of that,

if I can think of one specific example of two men working through emotions is. How did you say that there? All right, it's not funny anymore. No, it is. You pushed it. That is funny. You pushed it too far. No, I haven't.

You've taken it too far. I'm going to push through. It's going to come out the other way. As we've always discussed, you push your jokes and they become super annoying and then they come around full circle. That's what I like. I like it. I like getting to the point where everyone's sick of it

and then when everyone comes around, I'm like, I'm done with it. I'm done with this. If everybody else is enjoying it, I don't enjoy it anymore. Yeah, actually, I've noticed that because I'll be like, oh, I remember this, and you'll be like, no. No, I don't. I do not remember it. You've dropped it.

Yeah. Okay, so I have also got something fun for you which is an email from uh friends that you can do yourself if you feel like it you're really selling it i really am all right so you can email the show at suggestivepod.gmail.com with your recommendations suggestible or just to say hello because we love that we love love it. We love it. Just like Jason has. Hi, Claire and James. Hello.

I would say the Tontys, but James' surname is Sunday or movies or content or something equally preposterous. That's right. Love you both in the pod. Thanks, Jason. I have a suggestible. Now that Australia is on the road to winter, winter is coming. Oh, my God.

Boy, is it. Oh, man. We got hit fucking hard this week. It is a rain in. And that's suggestible is for people to get vaccinated and boosted against COVID-19 if they haven't already. Oh, shit. You made some enemies in the real world, Jason, including us.

We don't believe in vaccines. No. What? Don't even say that in a joke. Get boosted. Yeah. Anyway, for context on the rest, my name is Jason. We discovered that, Jason.

Jason, we know. And I founded the first coronavirus charity in the UK two years ago. Yeah. That's incredible. But my suggestible is less harsh than James' amazing Suicide Squad rant because I suggestible that people get informed and check out all the data themselves if they aren't sure about anything. I completely agree.

I agree. In any country's data, find each peak in case rates, find the corresponding peak in hospital rates and deaths and see how it has changed over time. In the UK, I recommend coronavirusdata.gov.uk and ons.gov.uk, and the latter has done regular testing on the general public to give reliable data over time. Is it O-H-N-S?

No, he said O-N-S. Okay. 7% of the UK currently has coronavirus, and at the January 2021 peak it was 2% of the UK. But our hospital rates are half of what they were then, which means that vaccine boosters reduce risk of hospitalisation by 80%. Absolutely, that is true. There you go.

And he gives lots more information. We don't need all the information. No, we don't. But it's interesting. He said, in America, data varies from state to state, but cdc.gov is a good starting place. In Australia, I recommend health.gov.au and covid19data.com.au. Around 485,000 people currently have coronavirus,

but almost every adult has at least one vaccine and 95% of aged care residents have been boosters, which means roughly 1,200 lives will have been saved in the next month alone by vaccines. It's pretty amazing, isn't it? That is amazing. I agree. Death rates followed the same pattern as the UK,

so this is in Australia, around 0.8% in October and for the last 10 weeks it's averaged 0.08%. Matching influenza because of boosters. Now is the perfect time to get boosted ahead of the winter season. Oh, my God. What have you got, bloody stock in Big Pharma, mate? Jeez, get on with it. Anyway, I think that's a great message.

That is. And I think I also like this message because it's not just get boosted, but here's all the information and here's some really great places for you to go and read that are actually solid references and not your own research from Facebook. Anyway, yeah, completely. So thank you so much, Jason, for your lovely email. He says, your podcast and the other podcast that's more successful but sadly has more mason ha i got him it's true it's been helpful to me personally and i'm sure to many others so please keep doing what you're doing

on a big fan of the spot on tom holland impression so feel free to just assume that's how i sound too oh yeah claire we gotta do something before we? Okay. You are going to watch the new trailer for Thor Love and Thunder. Oh, whoa. And then, so we're just going to pause this here and then you're going to tell people what you think of it. Would you like me to send you the link? Okay. All right.

I'll come around and we'll watch it and then we'll come back and discuss it afterwards, okay? Okay. Here we go. Oh, God. You didn't tell me this was happening. Why? Why do I have to watch this?

Because you make me sing songs. Oh, what? No, but now what if I don't like it? So am I supposed to give my impression in real time? No, you don't have to give it in real time. Can I tell the people what's happening? They've all seen it. Have they?

Yes. Not everyone. I haven't bloody seen it. You won't breathe it in if you don't. Okay, fine. Okay, small boy running very fast, getting bigger in dumb hat. Oh, now he's burying his pick. I mean, he's pretty hot, isn't he?

It's a good song. Who's the woman who grabbed onto his axe thing? It's a mystery, Claire. If you hadn't read the comics, you would know, but you have not. No, it's Jane Foster. It's Natalie Portman. Oh, I love Natalie Portman. She becomes Thor.

Oh, that's cool. Good on her. What did you think, Claire? It's not a pick or an axe. It's a hammer, isn't it? No, well, it is an axe. His hammer was shattered, but it was reforged, clearly, because Natalie Portman is wielding it.

Oh, I see. His axe was shattered but it was reforged clearly because Natalie Portman is wielding it. Ah, I see. He's got a, his axe is called Stormbreaker. I see. And he had it built in Infinity War so he could defeat Thanos. I see, Thanos. And it's a little like a rocky sort of like montage. He's getting fit because remember he was out of shape. Yeah, I'd forgotten about that.

Yeah, I'd forgotten. Now he's trim again. He's got a little tum-tum and now he's getting all trim again. Exactly. I mean, he's a very good looking man. You know what? A lot of people have been about that. I'd forgotten. Now he's trim again. He's got a little tum-tum and now he's getting all trim again. Exactly. I mean, he's a very good looking man. You know what? A lot of people have been saying that. I just don't see it though, you know?

Yeah, I know. I don't get it. Oh, look, it's niche. It's niche. Very niche, yeah. Maybe for some people. Chris Hemsworth. Who knew?

Who knew? Who knew? Who knew? Look, that actually looked really fun. Yeah. I actually am really into that. I was expecting not to be into it. Here's my normie take on it.

Here we go. All right. Initially I was like, can't be bothered. I don't like the bashy, crashy battles. I find it boring. I find, what's the point? Everyone wins in the end. There's just a lot of smashing.

Who cares? Who the fucking cares? Nobody does. Okay. Well, lots of people do. I don't care. It's boring and i fall asleep but that looks like i love a redemption story yeah and kind of like a fun let's not take ourselves too seriously and actually it reminded me that's why i have enjoyed

the thor movies because wait how many of the thor movies have you actually seen i don't know but a few and guardians are the same i don't know i've enjoyed that vibe. It's the Tiger Watiti. Tiger Watiti, yeah. Yeah, I really enjoyed his vibe and it was mainly the soundtrack. Yeah, totally. That makes a big difference, yeah. Yeah, so that looks kind of fun and the world looked kind of fun and cool and quite intricate.

So I'm kind of interested to see it. Then we will see it. Shockingly. We will see it in July together. Maybe you'll get through this one because you tried to watch Spider-Man No Way Home and you were just like, there's too many fucking Spider-Men in this. I hate it.

There's too many Spider-Men. Everyone's fighting. Everyone's, I'm the box puss. I was the doctor and now I've got a thing in my brain. I don't know. Who's that one? I'm old Spider-Man. I'm new Spider-Man. I'm Tony, Tobey Maguire. I don't know. Who's that one? I'm old, Spider-Man. I'm new, Spider-Man.

I'm Tony, Tobey Maguire. I'm Tobey Maguire. I'm Tobey Maguire. I'm here in a weird jacket looking pretty old. Yeah, that was the first thing you said. You're like, he looks old. I'm like, yeah, he's like 46 years old. Well, he looks pretty good.

He is good for 46. But, you know, I don't know. Andrew Garfield, though. I mean, I love him. But I would much prefer to watch him in a musical. Fair enough. Like T for 46. But, you know, I don't know. Andrew Garfield, though. I mean, I love him, but I would much prefer to watch him in a musical. Fair enough. Like Tick, Tick, Boom. I think he'd probably prefer that as well. Yeah. That's not true. I mean,

I don't know. Could everyone get over Spider-Man? What's going on there? He made a billion dollars. I just don't understand. Okay, here's my hot take. You need to have an investment in, like, all the other Spider-Man movies, though, as well. But I've watched most of them. No, but you don't care. You don't care about Tooth in the Wire.

I liked the first version of the Tom Holland Spider-Man. I liked that movie. It was really good. And I like Zendaya. I just. You didn't watch the one where he went to Europe on a little European adventure? There's too many. There's too many.

Or I've said it. There's too many Marvel movies. There's too many. There's only like 22 or something currently. There's too many. Plus all the TV shows. Too many Marvel movies. There's too many. There's only like 22 or something currently. There's too many. Plus all the TV shows. I have been talking about Marvel movies on the periphery of my life for like 20 years now.

And every bloody couple of months you're like, look at this trailer. Oh, it's come out. Oh, I'm so excited. It's another man in a suit. Yeah. He's going to have a little battle. And then there's some references to comics that I don't understand. And look at his special powers.

And then everything's fine in the end. Can I recommend to you at the very least? Oh, he's got some friends. They've all come together. They've all come together, yeah. Pew, pew, pew. Oh, so sad. I think it's interesting.

Everything's broken in the world. It's about to be taken over by a blue man. But it's actually not. That's like every movie. There's a lot of blue men trying to take over the world's about to be taken over by a blue man. But it's actually not. That's like every movie. There's a lot of blue men trying to take over the world. My mother. My son's dead. My mother's dead.

My father's dead. I see what you're saying. But there's a parallel universe and now a version of me has come out of the sky that looks like me but more like Tobey Maguire. And I'm Spider-Man. You're Spider-Man. Everyone's Spider-Man. Where's Aunt May?

Oh, my uncle's dead. I don't know. I hate it. I'm over it. There's too many. There's just too fucking many of these movies. I can't handle it anymore. My brain is actually fried.

If I could recommend one movie I think you would actually enjoy, aside from the quote I've been doing, shouting, why don't you watch the new Morbius movie? Fuck no. Oh, my God. Because Morbius. If you have to say Morbius one more time. Unlike a regular vampire.

He's a vampire doctor. He's a vampire. He's a doctor. Via science as opposed to magic. He's a vampire via science as opposed to magic. And that's a very compelling idea of a man who turns himself into a vampire through using fat blood and electricity or whatever happens. It's so stupid.

Yeah, that's a brutal movie to watch. God. But I don't understand. There's so many layers to that that I don't understand. I think it's evolving, though. I think it is in a period of like they're trying different things and kind of seeing and, you know, and I think it needs to evolve because of what you're talking about.

What do you mean? The same movies with the same characters need to evolve? No, no, I think it is evolving. I think I don't know what it's going to look like, but it needs to evolve also because it will lose people if it's just like one of these fucking things. You know what I mean? Yeah.

I mean, they've evolved the whole time. Yeah, some more than others. But you can't evolve away from the fact that they're all the same fucking characters over and over again. No, I think that's unfair. And I also think that like. You just told me there was like how many Spider-Man movies? In total, I don't know, 110.

Yeah, exactly. But, yeah, I think the appeal of that movie is that you got them all together. But I think, like, outside of that, it's like an okay movie. But, like, the idea of seeing those three together is like. You lost your time, mate. It was really fun to see. You got very sweaty. No, I did not.

You weren't even there. You weren't even there. I can imagine. It was like when you watch the first version of the Superman movie and your hands feel sweaty. The Superman Returns. Yeah, that everyone hates but you loved at the time. Yeah, I'd still like that movie even though it was directed

by an alleged sex criminal. Ah, that's fun. Anyways, what fun we've had this week. I'm sorry I made fun of your movie. I don't give a shit. I didn't make them. Let me sit alone and listen to Marla Marlo and read my book about depressing women. Yeah, absolutely. Honestly, I didn't make them. Let me sit alone and listen to Martha Marlowe and read my book about depressing women.

Yeah, absolutely. Honestly, I'm like I'm not – I didn't make these movies. They're not for everybody. It's fine. But I've enjoyed – the thing for me, right, is as just like a regular punter, I've really enjoyed them over the years and I've really seen what – particularly the Marvel ones because we're paid by Marvel. I've seen – I've really enjoyed them over the years and I've really seen what, particularly the Marvel ones because we're paid by Marvel. I've seen.

Yeah, that's right. I've seen. I've really enjoyed them. I got really invested in them. I really liked them. I was annoyed that they didn't give more of the women their own movies but they've kind of rectified some of that. George Black Widow?

Yes, I did. I really enjoyed it. I liked it a lot. I liked it too. Yeah, I really enjoyed it. And I really liked Captain Marvel and Wonder Woman. I know it's not Marvel but I really enjoyed Wonder. I liked it a lot. Yeah, I really enjoyed it. And I really liked Captain Marvel and Wonder Woman. I know it's not Marvel, but I really enjoyed Wonder Woman as well. It's just that at a certain point, how many movies is too many movies?

No amount of movies is too many movies. Anyway, maybe I'll come around to it again like your jokes. Actually, I'll tell you what, if anyone can get me over the line, it's a Chris Hemsworth thing. Well, that's true. I was going to say me. But yes, also you. But yeah, no, I think you might like this new one.

Anyways, let's go. This is too long. It's too long. I'm so sorry. Thank you as always for editing this, Collings. We have been Suggested Podcast. We will see you. All the links are below.

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