Suggestible - Your Gift is My Soul

Episode Date: February 13, 2020

Suggestible things to watch, read and listen to hosted by James Clement @mrsundaymovies and Claire Tonti @clairetonti.Miss AmericanaKanye West interrupts Taylor Swift at the 2009 VMAsDoctor SleepYour ...SongParasiteJames' Parasite SuggestibleThe Pineapple ProjectBritney Runs a MarathonNinth House by Alex SternTransmetropolitan by Warren EllisIf you would like to suggest a thing for the podcast, please feel free to ask and follow the show on Instagram, Twitter, Facebook @suggestiblepod and join our 'Planet Broadcasting Great Mates OFFICIAL' Facebook Group. If you want. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hi, I'm Jessi Cruikshank from the number one comedy podcast, Phone a Friend, which I strongly advise you listen to. You know what else I suggest you look into? Becoming a host on Airbnb. Did you like that segue? Thank you. I recently started putting my guest house on Airbnb when I'm out of town, and I didn't realize how easy it would be until I did it. If you have a spare room, you could Airbnb it, or your whole place could be an Airbnb. It's a great way to make a little extra money by doing not a lot, which frankly is my mantra in 2024. To learn more, go to airbnb.ca slash host. So James, I don't like being pregnant anymore. Well, what are you going to do about it?
Starting point is 00:00:37 I was thinking that I might just give up now. Give up? You can't give up now, Claire. Would you like to take the baby? Take it where? Into your belly. Is that legal? To Mexico for a cocktail. What do you mean? Yeah, just strap it to you.
Starting point is 00:00:52 Carry it for the next couple of months. Honestly, Claire, if I could, I wouldn't. But I appreciate the offer. You did say to me today when I was like sobbing because I'm pregnant and hormonal and one minute I'm like super lovely to you and the next minute I'm like in a fit of despair.
Starting point is 00:01:07 You're pretty good. I think you're a bit too harsh on yourself. Yeah. You did say to me though, hello, by the way, this is just real pod. I'm Claire. I think we're just having a conversation. I know. Just off top, off pod, off topic.
Starting point is 00:01:20 That's James over there. We suggest things to you. I suggest to anyone listening, don't get pregnant. I suggest if you don't. Or if you want, do. Wow. What a startling revelation. But look, we don't only recommend horrible life choices.
Starting point is 00:01:34 We also recommend TV shows or books or movies or anything at all really. Suggestibles, we call them, like the name of this podcast. Yeah, I know. Would you like to go first this week, Claire? Dating the obvious, Captain Obvious. That's me. No wonder you couldn't carry a baby for nine months. I've done it for six.
Starting point is 00:01:50 I'm not allowed legally. What do you mean legally? In the Constitution. No, physiologically, mate. You wouldn't be able to cope. That's what you said to me. You're like, I complained about my gallbladder operation a lot. And I was like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:03 The thing is, if I was to carry a baby, I would carry it on my back, like a backpack. I feel like it's all wrong. It's all wrong. Yeah, I agree. We've talked about this before. We should be able to shift it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:14 We've talked about how wombats carry them in a pouch. Yeah, they can. Remember, like, wombat babies face out the bottom under the anus. Well, wombats, they're born. I don't know why I like saying that word. It's really funny to me. Because they're born early, like little jelly bean kind of things, and they crawl into the pouch.
Starting point is 00:02:31 So they're not actually, and then that's where they kind of get sustenance or whatever. Yeah, and they hang in there. They hang in there. I can't decide if I'd like a pouch or not. Well, tell you what, we don't have to do the pouch surgery today. I'll let you think about it. I just feel like if I was having a cocktail, you know,
Starting point is 00:02:47 once the baby's like old enough to like climb in and out, I'd be sitting having a lovely cocktail and all of a sudden the creature would crawl out of me. That sounds horrible. I know, doesn't it? No, I'm happy with this situation. Okay, you've thought about it, have you? And Mother Nature got it right?
Starting point is 00:03:02 Terrific. I don't want a pouch with a baby crawling out of of it all the time. Alright, you want to go first? Yeah, oh yeah. Normally a gentleman's first, but I'll go first. Whatever, man. This week. Okay, it's slightly controversial, this recommendation. It is Miss Americana, the Taylor Swift documentary that has just dropped
Starting point is 00:03:17 on Netflix recently. And why is that controversial? Well, look, I have not been like the hugest fan of Taylor Swift's music. Like I respect her as an artist. I think it's awesome. Good job. You can respect somebody and not like anything they do.
Starting point is 00:03:30 And to be fair, I also sing along to some of those songs and they're great. And Shake It Off, Shake It Off, I'm all about it. They're pop tunes. They're big pop hit tunes. They're big pop hit pop tunes. And so I don't know. I just had never really thought beyond her as sort of someone that creates pop music and is gorgeous and blonde
Starting point is 00:03:48 and seems like a nice person, but hadn't really thought more about it than that. But honestly, I was blown away by this documentary, but it's not really a documentary. No, obviously it's curated by her people. Well, it's also written all by her. Yeah. And it's directed by Lana Wilson.
Starting point is 00:04:05 So it follows Swift through the past couple of years from her Reputation era, that's her album Reputation, which was Swift's pop dark horse of a sixth album, which kind of just like exploded and everyone loved so much and she kind of has been reinventing herself all the time. And it follows all the way to the creation of Lover, which is her latest work. So this documentary coincidentally came out around the same time
Starting point is 00:04:29 as her new album. No, interesting. Well, no, August 2019 was last year when her album came out. Oh, okay. And this only came out like recently. Oh, there you go. I apologise. So stop being so cynical.
Starting point is 00:04:40 I'm a big fan. Yeah, I know. You know what? I've become a big fan actually now after watching this doco because she's actually quite kind of geeky and very dedicated and hard-working and like most people that you see are at that kind of echelon of success bloody work ethic up the wazoo like the Lady Gaga documentary was also brilliant and I felt exactly the same when I watched it,
Starting point is 00:05:05 just in awe of their persistence and resilience and work ethic. I mean, also they have a lot of money and fame and all those things, but there's a reason why they are there and she's very talented. So it's great. It sort of flicks between home video and like she reads excerpts of her diary. Some of it's quite cringeworthy, shows her cats, and she's all a bit emosh when she doesn't win Grammys and things and, you know, whatever they are, the music awards.
Starting point is 00:05:32 I believe so. It really does. Yeah. I did see that bit where Kanye West storms on stage. My goodness. Yeah, so for anyone who doesn't know that. Everybody knows this. Yeah, okay.
Starting point is 00:05:44 Well, I'll just recap very briefly. So Taylor Swift was 19, you have to remember. She was standing on the stage by herself accepting her award for Video of the Year at the 2009 MTV VMAs. And she looks quite fragile in those early years. You can kind of see she's very skinny. She's 19. It's terrifying.
Starting point is 00:06:03 Yeah, it's terrifying. And she even says in this, she grew up in the spotlight. see she's very skinny she's clearly it's terrifying yeah it's terrifying and she's clearly and she even says in this she's she grew up in the spotlight she wanted to do this since she was you know five or something and so she's kind of been taught never to step out of line she just seeks approval and wants everyone to love her and like her and be perfect all the time and you can just see her with this perfect blonde hair and the perfect little face with the perfect dress and everything, trying to be Miss Perfect. So talented and driven.
Starting point is 00:06:30 And then Kanye West gets up there and basically says that Beyonce should have won and kind of it's very – He just hijacks the entire thing. Hijacks her moment. And then she doesn't know what to do. She's kind of lost for words and seems to freak out and she's trying to be really polite. And it just broke my heart.
Starting point is 00:06:49 I thought, God, when you're 19, you're still a kid. Yeah. You know, and he really exploited her. And then later on went and talked about her in some of his music videos. Yes, and put a. Yeah, had like her in, like a person dressed up like her in a sexy pose and all that stuff. Kanye West has his own problems and he's clearly an insane person.
Starting point is 00:07:09 Yeah, I know. But that's still not cool. It's not cool. And I think at the time I probably – It's like shut up. It's got nothing to do with you. You're not involved in either of those situations. Yeah, and look, I think also at the time I probably was like,
Starting point is 00:07:19 oh, yeah, this is music, pop, drama, whatever. It probably did a lot for her career in some ways, da-da-da-da, all of that stuff. But when I looked back on it, I thought, pop, drama, whatever. It probably did a lot for her career in some ways, da-da-da-da, all of that stuff. But when I looked back on it, I thought, well, actually, watching this doco from a different lens, maybe as someone who's like 34, you kind of think, bloody hell, you know, women often get kind of railroaded in that industry. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:41 You know, and there's this whole expectation around image and, you know, she talks a little bit about eating disorders. But what I find is most interesting and why I really enjoyed it was because it shows her progress as someone who ends up finding her voice. So, you know, there's a really sad moment where she talks about how she hadn't had a burrito until two years ago or something, which I know doesn't seem like very sad. It's not the saddest thing. But she does.
Starting point is 00:08:04 It's heartbreaking. Oh, my God. No, I know what you mean. I know doesn't seem like very sad. It's not the saddest thing, but she does. Heartbreaking. Oh my God. No, I know what you mean. I know what you're saying. What I'm trying to explain is that she probably spent 25, 30 years of her life on really terribly strict diets, obsessing over her weight, having everyone scrutinize her and developed an eating disorder because of that.
Starting point is 00:08:19 But what is really interesting, anyway, I'm sidetracking. My brain's not working, is she finds her political voice and she comes out. Yeah, because there was a big thing of like why hasn't she said anything. Yeah, and you can see why because I don't know if you know about the Dixie Chicks but the Dixie Chicks came out and talked about President Bush and their career was effectively ruined. Their names were mud.
Starting point is 00:08:39 They're back now but yeah. Yeah, I know but not at the height that they were. And so her record label because she started in country music really advised against it and there's this room where she sits and she has to kind of battle these old white dudes including her dad to say that she really wants to come out you know promoting the democratic candidate and you know fighting against Trump and the values that he kind of espoused and so that's really interesting watching her and watching kind of her growing understanding of just how much she was a product
Starting point is 00:09:11 of, you know, wanting everyone to like her and do the right thing and never step out of line and how she needed to find her voice and all of that stuff. So, yeah. So it is quite a feminist, you know, doco really. So autobiography really, I guess. Anyway, I really enjoyed it. It's on Netflix.
Starting point is 00:09:28 Okay, cool. I won't watch it but I appreciate that you like it and then other people will because I genuinely don't like music docos. I feel like though, have you watched the Lady Gaga one or the Amy Winehouse one? No, I really want to watch the Amy Winehouse one in particular. You should. I think you're saying that but you never watch music documentaries. Yes, that's right.
Starting point is 00:09:46 So that's why you're saying that you don't like them. Yeah. It's like you were surfing. I don't like surfing. You've never surfed. I don't want to surf, Claire. Okay, guys, he is obsessed with not ever surfing. No, Claire is obsessed with making me surf.
Starting point is 00:09:59 Yeah, because you've never ever done it. But I don't want to. But how do you know if you've never done it? How do I know I don't want to? Because I'm in my own head because I'm me. He's so angry. He gets so angry. No, because you.
Starting point is 00:10:10 You're so angry. Why are you so angry? She cannot let this go. Yeah, because I think you'd really like it. I've loved it. I've done it a few times. I'm an expert. But the thing is that I don't think.
Starting point is 00:10:20 You like body surfing. I do. You like showing off your bod. I love showing off my bod. Your dad bod. I love showing off my dad. But I bod. I love showing off my dad. But I don't, I just don't want to. It's like, why don't I slam my dick in a door?
Starting point is 00:10:30 Because I don't want to. But that would be painful. Are you, what are you, are you afraid of the board? You think you're going to like demasculinize me, if that is a word? No, I don't. You think I'm going to be like, well, I'll show you and I'll run out to the surf? You're only on this earth for a short amount of time. You can't, baby, do this shit, Claire. I'm never going to be like, well, I'll show you and I'll run out to the surf. You're only on this surf for a short amount of time. I'm never going to do it.
Starting point is 00:10:48 Why? It's got to the point now I'm never going to go back on it. No, you've dug your heels in. This is what he does. He's so bloody stubborn. For the rest of my life, I will not do it. You are never going to try it. Because if I do, I'll never hit the end of it for good or ill.
Starting point is 00:11:01 Oh, my God. I think this is because secretly surfer boys and men are your nemesis. Because they're all tall and blonde and you don't want to go in there and make a fool of yourself and get hit by the board. I'm happy to make a fool of myself in the ocean, Claire. I feel like because you're fairly short so you're low centre of gravity, you'll be fine and you've got tiny little legs. It's not about whether or not I'll be good at it.
Starting point is 00:11:24 You'll be able to leap straight up onto that board. I bet I'm an excellent surfer. I bet I'm the best surfer in the world. But I don't want to do it. I'd say that you could probably eventually get up on the board for a couple of rides of the wave. Yeah. Your brother did it recently for the first time,
Starting point is 00:11:38 and he was like, it was fine, which is exactly what I feel like it'll be. He's like, you spend a lot of time just paddling around the ocean. I'd rather just swim. Which is lovely. I'd rather just swim. Which is lovely. I'd rather just swim. No. I stand by your brother.
Starting point is 00:11:48 Right. I stand by my brother too. However, in this instance, I think you should make up your own mind. Well, I have. I actually have made up my own mind. No, this is ridiculous. And my own mind says I don't want to do it. This is like we were trying to get our son to eat apple tonight and he was like, I don't
Starting point is 00:12:01 like apple. And I'm like, you don't eat apple, which is why I don't like it. You have to try new things. Yeah. It's not really the same, is it? I mean. Sort of the same. Shut up.
Starting point is 00:12:13 Go surfing. I'm not. Anyway, get on with your recommendation. We're wasting time. Okay. Well, I'm going to talk about Dr. Sleep. Have you ever seen the movie? Are you going to talk about what a baby you are about surfing?
Starting point is 00:12:22 I've already talked about that. I'm never going to surf. You can't make me. I'm just not going to do it. James, I'm carrying your child. What if I go out there and I surf and I get thrown off and I dash my head on a rock and I die? Well, then you would have lived your life to the fullest.
Starting point is 00:12:40 And at your funeral I'll say he lived his life like he died. Yeah, he lived his life. he died. Yeah, he lived his life. In pain. Yeah, exactly. Being told what to do by his wife. He died doing the thing he hated the most, just as he always suspected that he would. Anyway, doctor sleep.
Starting point is 00:13:01 If you die like that, that would be. You know what, I hope I do die. I hope I do. Don't say that. I hope I do. I hope I go surfing. I'll listen back to this podcast and cry. And I get bitten in half by a shark.
Starting point is 00:13:13 Or I smash my head on a rock. Or a piece of coral cuts my throat when I get dunked by a wave. I hope it happens. Is that why you don't like swimming in the ocean very much? I like swimming in the ocean. Do you? Yes, I'm married to it. You know, you're married to me.
Starting point is 00:13:29 My first love, Claire. You don't like swimming in the ocean. Anyway, isn't this show about fucking something else? I know, I'm sorry. This is a really bad. Doctor Sleep. So have you ever seen The Shining? Yes.
Starting point is 00:13:39 Directed by Stanley Kubrick, Jack Nicholson. It's a horror movie from the early 80s, I believe. Yes, it's terrifying. Anyway, no, it'sson. It's a horror movie from the early 80s, I believe. Yes, it's terrifying. Anyway, no, it's not. There's a sequel. It's directed by Mike Flanagan, who's a really kind of underrated horror director who's done some things that are good, but a lot of people haven't seen. Gerald's Game was on Netflix recently, a few years back.
Starting point is 00:13:57 Oculus, which I haven't seen, which is an underrated horror film as well. Anyway, this acts as a sequel to The Shining, the classic Stephen King novel and also movie, where Danny, the kid to The Shining, the classic Stephen King novel and also movie, where Danny, the kid from The Shining, is all grown up and now he's Ewan McGregor. And he's struggling with mental health and alcoholism because his dad chased him with an axe. I don't know if you remember how that movie went.
Starting point is 00:14:17 Imagine if you grew up and became Ewan McGregor. Oh, my God. What a dream. I know. He's such a dreamboat. He's the best. I know. Anyway, he's...
Starting point is 00:14:24 Your gift is my soul. That's not the words to that song. It's my gift is my soul. Not your gift is your soul. I get really bad with song lyrics. Yeah, no shit. Okay. Anyway, he's magic or something.
Starting point is 00:14:39 And he lives in a world where some people are magic and he calls it the shining. And there's also a group of like a coven of like. It is The Shining. Yeah, yeah, very good. Yeah. And they kind of roam around. And this one's for you. There are these potentially immortal beings that eat people like Ewan McGregor
Starting point is 00:14:55 and he's magic, right? They eat Ewan McGregor? Yeah, they eat your soul. Oh, he's magic. Yeah, and other people and like there's a little kid who has it as well or whatever. So it's this psychological slash actual horror film slash thriller and at the end they also not the end but during the movie they end up back at the shining hotel for a showdown oh
Starting point is 00:15:13 this movie yeah this movie like tanked like horribly nobody saw it came out last year and it's just come to streaming and it's great it's really good it's uh it's more kind of crowd pleasing than the shining because the shining's a real head fuck or whatever but uh and it doesn't make a lot of sense you know unless you kind of think about it and you know whatever dwell on it and it's got some spooky imagery and i just think it's just a really good follow-up to a movie that probably shouldn't have ever existed like it shouldn't be a sequel it's like that blade runner sequel they shouldn't have made it because no one's going to see this but it's out there and you can absolutely watch it.
Starting point is 00:15:45 And Mike Flanagan's a great director and I feel like he's probably one or a couple of movies away from having like a huge breakout movie. And I hope he is because he's just really good at this and it's a great movie. Awesome. So where can you see it on there? I streamed it off YouTube. All right.
Starting point is 00:16:00 So you can get it from all the apps, Google Play. Presumably. All the places. iTunes. Yeah, there was three Stephen King movies last year. There were others on streaming, but there was that and there was Remaker Pet Sematary and then there was It Chapter 2. We're in a real Stephen King renaissance. Oh, my favourite type of renaissance.
Starting point is 00:16:18 Well, actually, I haven't seen Pet Sematary. I heard it's good but not great, but this was my favourite of all the recent-ish Stephen King adaptations. Right. I really liked it a lot. Okay. Well, would I be able to cope? It's also not too spooky. That's what I was going to say.
Starting point is 00:16:33 Would I be able to cope with the level of spookiness? Mate, yeah, I think you could. There's also a great moment where all the magic people turn up to, like, capture Ewan McGregor and this girl and he just shoots a lot of them with a gun. And it's just great because he's not even using his magic. He's shooting people. And it's great. Is this like how now you've decided you're going to punch
Starting point is 00:16:53 all the Disney characters? I'm going to punch them all. You're full of violence. Not all. I think you should go surfing. This is if they're coming at me, Claire. You didn't hear the context. In what universe are all the Disney characters coming at you at once?
Starting point is 00:17:07 Mason made the scenario, or maybe we made it together, where he just lists some Disney characters, and if they're coming at me, would I attack them back? Would he? From Toy Story? Yeah. I'd boot him into an open fire. People have been asking me on Twitter, throw him away,
Starting point is 00:17:20 I'll tell you what I'd do. Actually, Collings, who edits his show, made a video of that. And it was very funny. Even though I don't condone violence. Fergal Quigley did a great poster of me punching Mickey Mouse. He certainly did. I'll punch Mickey Mouse. Introducing Uber Teen Accounts. An Uber account for your teen with enhanced safety features. Your teen can request a ride
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Starting point is 00:17:54 All right, okay. So just on a side note, I watched Parasite. Oh, yeah, what did you think? Which won Best Movie at the Oscars. And it was great. Directed by Bong Joon-ho. And you also talked about this ages ago. No, we should definitely talk about it again.
Starting point is 00:18:09 So I don't want to go deep dive into it because you've already done that. Colleen can link that below. But I just thought it was a great tragedy comedy and very beautifully crafted. The score is amazing. The acting is really cool. The way the acts shift. Yeah way the acts shift yeah the acts develops the movie yeah and and the way that it walks a knife edge between being kind of slapstick comedy
Starting point is 00:18:32 and quirky and weird and funny to just suddenly being really gruesome and shocking and it also leaves you with the same feeling that oak jar, which is another of his films. Yeah, Netflix was the last one he did, yeah. Yeah, which it just stays with you for a long time. And I think that just even the set, how one side of it is this underground kind of basement that one family lives in and the other is this beautifully architectured house with light and lots of glass and gorgeous grass. Yeah, it's absolutely beautiful. And the look. Mason told me, I didn't know this, but they built it just from like, is that a real house?. Yeah, it's absolutely beautiful.
Starting point is 00:19:07 Mason told me, I didn't know this, but they built it just from like, is that a real house? But no, they built it for. Oh, wow, for the movie. Yeah. Which of course they did. Of course they did. But it just works so beautifully. And just looking at that, so looking at the class system in Seoul
Starting point is 00:19:18 and South Korea and then relationships, but then also the relationships within the families and you contrast the wealthy family but maybe how disparate they are and not really very connected to each other and how the family that lives in the basement for all of their kind of struggles and, you know, they're quite quirky and a bit kind of down. They're also terrible. They're also a bit terrible, a bit lazy. But you also understand why they're terrible.
Starting point is 00:19:46 Yeah. Because they want to just, you know, you don't want to live in a horrible, horrible place. Yeah, exactly. So they're sort of not, but they're not very get up and go-y. No, I would say they are. But I think some people are presented with opportunities and some people aren't.
Starting point is 00:19:59 I think that's part of it as well. It's very much who you know because they're all very intelligent. Yeah, they are. You know. But I guess they're kind of, you see them really in their, when they're at home, kind of just chilling out or whatever, which is very reminiscent of what we all look like, I guess, and we're just like eating Doritos on the couch or whatever. So yeah, I just thought it was really, really clever. I don't eat Doritos on the couch because I'm working on my surfboard, you know. Yeah, correct. And I don't actually ever eat Doritos either. I don't know why I said that. If I bought Doritos, I would only eat Doritos on the couch because I'm working on my surfboard, you know. Yeah, correct. And I don't actually ever eat Doritos either. I don't know why I said that. I bought Doritos
Starting point is 00:20:26 I would only eat Doritos so I do not buy them. Correct. They are delicious. Yeah, I just thought and it was just one of those films that will stay with you and I'm surprised it won though. Me too. Really surprised because it's a foreign it's the first foreign film. The first foreign film ever. It's also, I mean in my opinion
Starting point is 00:20:42 it is easily the best film from that category of films by a long way. I mean, I know there are people who disagree on that and that's award shows and opinions and whatever, but it's the best film in my opinion. Yeah. No, I would completely agree with that. I would because it's surprising and different. Yeah. And their acting is amazing.
Starting point is 00:21:06 And don't let the subtitles put you off because you just kind of, I don't know, it just feels so, it just brings you right into it. It's beautifully shot. Yeah, it does. It really brings you into the story. Yeah. And what starts off as quite a seemingly innocuous story too. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:21 Seems very innocuous. It's like a bit of a farce. Like if you saw it on SBS very briefly, you'd be like, oh, what's this? Yeah. You know, it's sort of, yeah, but it really builds in on itself and it becomes more and more intricate. Yeah. It says a lot about the divides between the rich.
Starting point is 00:21:38 Absolutely. And it's people who. Everywhere, yeah. Absolutely it does. Absolutely. Makes you feel a little bit like a privileged asshole. There's a moment where it rains and the family who live like on the hill in the beautiful house are like, oh, it's raining.
Starting point is 00:21:52 Oh, how lovely. And then the family who live, you know, in the horrible basement, the whole house gets flooded. The toilet just bubbles up with sewage and it's just awful. And it's just –. And it's just. Yeah, it's a real statement, I think. It's a film. I've said this before.
Starting point is 00:22:09 You can smell it. Yeah, that's very true. Do you know what I mean by that? Yes, I do know what you mean. Yeah, yeah, I do. I don't know how to explain it better than that. No, no, but it's very, I can't even describe it. It feels tangible. Yeah, it does. I think it's the way it's very, I can't even describe it. It feels tangible.
Starting point is 00:22:26 Yeah, it does. I think it's the way it's shot. Yeah, definitely. And there's a lot of description actually of scent. That's true, yeah. True, I think. But, yeah, it's really interesting. Anyway, I totally recommend that, obviously, as most people have.
Starting point is 00:22:41 But my other recommendation I wanted to briefly talk about was a podcast that's just dropped. A lot of podcasts. Yeah, it's the season four of this podcast called The Pineapple Project. It's produced by Monique Bowley from the ABC and this season is hosted by comedian and journalist Jan Fran. It's a great show anyway, but their first season is all about money really and they look at –
Starting point is 00:23:02 I love money. Yeah, well, don't we all? But it's just about all of the things that we never get taught about money and how to make money, what is a superannuation thing, what about home loans, all of that kind of stuff. But the reason I'm suggesting this particular season is I think it's really interesting. They're looking at death, which I know is kind of, particularly in our culture, quite a taboo topic to discuss, which I know is kind of particularly in our culture quite a taboo topic to discuss, but I think really important. And this first episode, it's only 20-minute episodes,
Starting point is 00:23:30 it looks at what starts with a wife who woke up and her husband was dead. Classic. I know. What a dream. No, I'm joking. It was horrifying. You'll be sorry. My head is dashed on a rock.
Starting point is 00:23:42 But it's not – I know. No, I'm only joking. But what I thought was interesting was it's not looking at grief and there's lots of beautiful podcasts and things out there to explore grief and those sorts of things. But this is actually just about the practicality of what happens when you die to your social media accounts, to how do you get a death certificate, what happens like if you did wake up in that scenario,
Starting point is 00:24:06 what would you need to do? And I think it's really empowering knowledge to have. So I would recommend that. Well, I also recommend that. Cool. What? Waking up next to your dead spouse. Oh, my God, the dream.
Starting point is 00:24:22 Oh, God. I've got one more. A film I really enjoyed this week, which I've been meaning to watch for a while. It's called Brittany Runs a Marathon. It's on Prime Video or Amazon, whatever it's called. It's a story of Brittany. It's based on a true story. It's a friend of the director
Starting point is 00:24:37 Paul Downes' Colasio. They were friends and roommates. Basically, in real life and also in this movie, Brittany, who's played by Gillian Bell, decides to, you know, she's kind of binge drinking and kind of aimless and kind of, you know, she's got this job that she kind of hates and she's, you know, she's kind of, she lives with a terrible friend and, you know,
Starting point is 00:24:58 and all these kinds of things. She's very unfit and overweight and she decides that she's going to start running and make some changes to her life and stop drinking and get healthy and it's just about that and it's not like it's about her running a marathon and it's and it is about weight loss and all those things but it's also mostly and jillian bell is excellent in this movie she actually lost 18 kilo which is 40 40 pounds for our american listeners uh over the course of this movie for this transformation and it's not like his transformation where it's like and then she gets her makeup done and you know what I mean and whatever and now she comes out in a sexy dress it's just like she just looks fit and strong and healthy like that's kind of the transformation and it's about coming to terms
Starting point is 00:25:38 with your body and toxic friends and getting your life on track or back on track and it's just really it's just great it's a really like feel-. And it's just really, it's just great. It's a really like feel good movie. It's also really, it's quite moving as well, which I didn't expect. It's really, it's funny and it's moving and it's just a beautiful movie and it's on Prime Video and you should, you should get it if you just watch it because it's there. Yeah. I've been meaning to watch this.
Starting point is 00:26:00 I started watching it and it was so good. I was sort of in the middle and I may have ruined it a bit for myself, but I need to go back to the start. Yeah, you should definitely. Yeah, I think you'd really love it, especially because you love running. Maybe you should watch it when you start running. It sounds like the story of my life. Yeah, you should watch it when you can actually run
Starting point is 00:26:16 because I think it'll make you sad that you can't run. You know, I'm waddling around at the moment. I'm waddling. You're not waddling. I'm like rolling around. You're not waddling. I huff and puff. I do things like get up. I'm like rolling around. You're not waddling. I huff and puff. I do things like get up and I'm like, ooh, I say that to myself
Starting point is 00:26:29 or I'm always sighing. Yeah, I know. It's real bad. I feel like just very ungainly. Well, that's true. You are. I think you're always like that though. Your arms are too long.
Starting point is 00:26:42 You're like a spider. Yeah. No, my arms are very long, but I feel they're not like that though. Your arms are too long. You're like a spider. Yeah. Hey. No, my arms are very long, but I feel they're not like a – well, yeah, spiders use their arms really well and effectively, and that's like me. I'm a biological anomaly slash kind of amazing creature that can use their arms for good. I can't argue with that.
Starting point is 00:27:00 Also, spiders have legs technically. Also, does it really matter what they have? No, but they can reach things and I can reach things really easily. Do you know what? I've seen a spider stir a cup of coffee with a spoon. I mean, it was a wooden spoon. I didn't know what it was doing, but it was still pretty good. Well, that's pretty cool.
Starting point is 00:27:15 We currently are living with a lot of daddy long legs in our house. That's good though. They're good. Yeah, they're good spiders. Because they get rid of the other. They kill the other spiders. Apparently, they have really, really poisonous venom, but they're immune to us humans. Well, they can't bite through our skin because they've got like tiny little teeth.
Starting point is 00:27:30 Yeah, so that's really creepy, isn't it? But they kill other spiders. So I just leave them in our house. Yeah. Cool, yeah. On another note, my long arms have come in handy for, example, pulling up to one of those ticket things in a car park when you've pulled in a little bit too far.
Starting point is 00:27:45 Oh, it's such a pain in the ass. I need to open the door, can just stick my hand out. That's true. Get the ticket. You can do it from any seat in that car and you can do it. I can. I'm like Elastigirl from The Incredibles. You are, Claire.
Starting point is 00:27:57 You're just as amazing as Elastigirl. I mean, look, it's not a great look having long arms, but I'll take them. You can. Okay, this is on a side note just before we finish. great look having long arms, but I'll take them. You do what you can. Okay. This is on a side note, just before we finish, the thing that annoys me the most about having long arms is that I can't sleep very well. Because what do you do with them? What do you do with them?
Starting point is 00:28:15 Like, what do you do with them? Because I'm always like, I still, I'm 34. I still haven't worked out how to sleep with my long arms. You could wrap them around your body. Yeah, but they go numb. No, I mean, it's like bundle yourself up. Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. I do that sometimes but then I wake up in the middle of the night.
Starting point is 00:28:29 I've never told you this and my hands are like drooping over my wrists and they're numb because I don't know what to do with them. You should sleep like our friend, who I won't name, who sleeps like fucking Dracula, like on his back with his arms like crossed over him, touching his shoulders. He looks like the dead. Like he's very spooky. I don't know why he sleeps like that.
Starting point is 00:28:52 But he's such a cheerful guy in regular life. That guy could sleep literally anywhere. Yeah, I remember watching at a party, he fell asleep in a chair just like that and he slept all night with his hands crossed over his body. I can't even sleep on my back. Yeah, well, that's the thing. I have to sleep sitting up at the moment. Normally the way that I sleep body. I can't even sleep on my back. Yeah, well, that's the thing. I have to sleep sitting up at the moment.
Starting point is 00:29:09 Normally the way that I sleep with my long arms, I sleep on my stomach and lay them beside my body and they just lay there and it's fine. But I can't do that sitting up. It just feels weird. Yeah. So it's no good. Anyway. I love that this podcast has transitioned into Claire just complains
Starting point is 00:29:23 about her stupid pregnancy. Oh, my God. Oh, no. What? Just give me the test. You're the one that got me into this bloody mess. Allegedly. Surf boy.
Starting point is 00:29:39 Jesus. I could be real mad right now. I'm sure you will be in the podcast. Yeah, I will. You're in some serious hot be. Yeah, I will. You're in some serious hot water. Oh, no. Yeah, you are in trouble with a capital T in the doghouse, mate.
Starting point is 00:29:56 That's how I live my life. One doghouse at a time. Hey, finish the podcast so I can yell at you in private. Can we just extend this a little bit longer? I'm actually not mad. This is from Brajan the Gage and says, five stars, great podcast. You can do this in app, by the way. It really helps the show.
Starting point is 00:30:12 It helps massively. Oh, please, yes. Review us. We've been. Tell James he should surf. Tell me you can surf. I won't, but you can tell me. I come for the suggestions, but I stay for the lovely rapport between James and Claire.
Starting point is 00:30:23 I found out about this podcast from Claire's more popular podcast, Just Make the Thing, and I'm glad that I have. I'm not sure who this co-host, James Olsen or whatever else he's done, but I think it's funny how he pretends to have a more popular podcast. It's great and informative listen for everyone. So thank you for that. Thanks, mate. I appreciate it. What do you think? I think Just Make the Thing is nowhere near as popular as your podcast, but that's okay. I haven't done any episodes for a while. I have a really great one I need to finish editing. Oh, is it about me?
Starting point is 00:30:56 Definitely not. Then how good could it be? It's not about a big dumb idiot that sits in a room all day by himself. Yeah, I've been listening to that. All right, okay. You can also suggest things to us, I've been listening to that. All right. Okay. You can also suggest things to us. We love suggestions from you guys.
Starting point is 00:31:09 We do. You can send us at SuggestiblePod on Twitter or on Instagram. Thank you very much. This guy's called Staring 50 in its Grim Face. Ooh, he said, for her, Ninth House by the incomparable El Bardugo. My favourite, I don't know how to pronounce that name. My favourite read of 2019, Ninth House. All right, excellent.
Starting point is 00:31:34 I'm putting that in my Kindle right now. And for him. What's it about? It doesn't say. And for him, Transmetropolitan by Warren Ellis. If you haven't already read it. Oh, cool. It's just a bloody wild ride, mate.
Starting point is 00:31:46 And for the littlest Sunday, for now, a big sandwich. Oh, very good. Don't we all just want a big sandwich? Yeah. All the time. I just want to eat bread exclusively. Oh, bread's the best. Isn't it just?
Starting point is 00:31:58 I went through a phase where I didn't like bread and now. Yeah, I know. When? Like recently. What are we even talking about? Yeah, it made my tummy hurt. Oh, no. I know, but now. What? Yeah, I know. When? Like recently. What are we even talking about? Yeah, it made my tummy hurt. Oh, no. I know.
Starting point is 00:32:08 Too much bread can be bad for you depending on your level of gluten tolerance. Yeah, exactly. But now I bloody love it. You're bread city. I'm bread city. I'm britty. Very good. Anyway, we'll be back next week for whatever is next week.
Starting point is 00:32:23 Thank you for listening to the show. Thank you. And thank you, Claire, for taking my great joke with just took it on board and you're not going to bring whatever happens in the podcast into our real life. And I think that's really mature of you because lesser people would hold a grudge. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:41 Excuse me. You are the grudgest of grudges. You hold grudges from when you were seven years old oh my god you remember everything you're like an L you have so many you're just like full of grudginess remember that time that dude remember that time that dude
Starting point is 00:32:55 frolicking about with no grudges at all that dude who blanked me and then I blanked him 20 years later I remember that guy when you say that dude you mean one of our friend's dads. You know it is. That's okay. So here's what happened.
Starting point is 00:33:07 We're going to wrap it up. But basically, I went to a party when I was 16. His nostril flaring. I didn't know the dad of the party, right? So I introduced myself. I came in the door and I said, hi, I'm James. And I put my hand out and he fucking blanked me. Like where we're sitting, like closer than this,
Starting point is 00:33:22 he completely ignored me. And I went, okay, that's how it's going to be. He probably didn't even hear you. How could he not? I was standing right in front of him. There is no way he did not see and or hear me. I understand he doesn't like me.
Starting point is 00:33:37 I'm 16. I'm in his house. Of course he doesn't like me. Of course he doesn't. Anyway, but that doesn't matter. 20 years later, turns out that his wife, I ended up knowing, like independently, like I met her. She's like 60 plus or whatever.
Starting point is 00:33:53 She's in teaching, right? Lovely person. She's really nice. Anyway, I went and spoke to her and I stood in front of him, like cut him off. Sugar hand said, great to see you, had a chat while he stood awkwardly behind me. And then I just walked off and it was the best thing that's ever happened. He was just standing there like a, like a dumb fucking pigeon person.
Starting point is 00:34:18 Just looking around, not knowing what to do with himself. That being said, I bet he didn't notice that time either. I bet he had no idea what, or give a shit at all. And that's so elaborate. And you've held on to that for like 20 years. I did. You're just holding on to that anger. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:35 Do you, have you released it? Clearly not. Oh no, I'm great with it. You're so angry. No, that's it. It's done. It's finished. All right.
Starting point is 00:34:42 So does that mean that for all the grudges you have in your life, you're going to have to at some point blank them in a social setting? No, it's got to be an equivalent. It's got to be an equivalent. How many of these do you think that you have that you're going to find scenarios for? Say you feel like hit me with a bag of oranges. That's what I would do to him. It could be a different fruit. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:35:01 But it would be of equivalence. That's how it works. Yeah. All right. Okay. Do you have any grudges against me? No. I don't know. But it would be of equivalence. That's how it works, yeah. All right. Okay. Do you have any grudges against me? No, I don't think so. No.
Starting point is 00:35:12 I'm scared. No. With, like, friends and family and that, no, I don't. I really don't. Oh, you don't hold on to things. Well, it's because you're friends or whatever. Except for your brothers. You play tricks on them. No, but that's not.
Starting point is 00:35:21 That's not. Didn't your brother fill your drawers with shaving foam? Yeah, he filled my car. And then I got into his house and I filled all his drawers with shaving foam. Oh, that was it. That was more prank stuff. That was more prank stuff, Claire. That is James' whole family.
Starting point is 00:35:35 That's right. Anyway, we've got to go. Okay. And on that very cheerful note, don't hold grudges, mate. Let him go. No, no, no. Like stand through the hourglass. Just hold on to him.
Starting point is 00:35:43 It's all right. It's fine. Harmless no, no. Like stand through the hourglass. Just hold on to him. It's all right. It's fine. Harmless fun, Claire. Harmless. I bet he doesn't even know who I am. No. That's why I think you have so much rage. All right.
Starting point is 00:35:53 Bye. Are we going? I was right in front of it. Let's go. This podcast is part of the Planet Broadcasting Network. Visit planetbroadcasting.com for more podcasts from our great mates. I mean, if you want. It's up to you.

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