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Episode Date: May 22, 2026

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Starting point is 00:01:18 I don't know. Is it cringe? Well, chika-wat-w-w-w-w-w-w-l. I mean. I mean, it was big when we were in like middle school. So maybe, you know, at the start of the podcast, people hear that and they're like, oh my God. Yeah. This is before Vine, too.
Starting point is 00:01:34 Yeah, yeah, yeah. There were commercials with it, right? I don't remember what commercial used it, but it was back in the day when people go with their mouths and their throat. Okay, I'll start it. I'll start it then. All right. Ready? Yeah. Bows chica-wit-w-wow!
Starting point is 00:01:51 Welcome back to Super Mega Show, ladies and gentlemen. I'm Matt Watson. Maybe just no. Maybe we just. You don't do it. Not good? We'll just not do a cold open this time then. Why was it?
Starting point is 00:02:22 What another beautiful day, another beautiful podcast episode, episode 114. Hey, you got it, brother. You got it. 114, baby. The big 114, the one everyone's been waiting for. The backlog's a little... Usually there's a backlog, and that's why I don't remember the episode. But now we're kind of recording week by week. Yeah, we're under the gun right now.
Starting point is 00:02:44 It's the back of our heads. Our lovely podcast editor, Luke, he is out of town on some family business. So we are kind of a scramble at the office right now. We got Darwin helping us out right now. He's actually cutting up episode 113. As we speak, he is cutting that sweet, sweet episode. So a bit of delay on some episodes and stuff. We hope you understand.
Starting point is 00:03:06 But they will still continue to release as hopefully planned. Sorry, you and I are like the computers between us Used to not be in the way Yeah, we like I feel like we've slid backwards And now when we Isn't even like you know how yours is a little taller Well I guess that does well like like I When I look over I used to be able to see your face
Starting point is 00:03:28 And now it's blocked What's going on? Do we need to scoot our chairs up maybe? Nope, it's gonna fall right If you do that it's gonna fall off You can't scare me like that man Gotcha there is an iPad mini in this thing Hey, well, our logo's spinning.
Starting point is 00:03:44 You see that? Zoom in on it. A nice little zoom. Give me Darwin some practice editing. It's a spinning logo. Hey, you know what? You and I a couple episodes ago. You went, I'm tired of this chair.
Starting point is 00:03:55 You flipped it upside down and you brought a camping chair in here. Maybe since then the positioning got screwed up a little bit and we just need to kind of scoot forward. Because I need to, yeah, yeah. Because I need to see. But then the camera focus might be a little. We'll scoot a little bit forward. We'll see, we'll see what it does. there you go
Starting point is 00:04:13 how's that see we're still in focus right yeah yeah we're still in focus and now I can see you I can see you I could see my friend I didn't like we need to change your angle
Starting point is 00:04:24 maybe a little bit at some point just because you do lean to the far side of the chair the far side of the chair I was thinking I was gonna have to start printing out a picture of you and taping it to the side of this computer between us because I couldn't see you otherwise
Starting point is 00:04:40 and if that was there, I'd be able to do it. Like, if the picture was taped there, then I could, you know, look at your smiling face tape to the side and pretend like I'm talking directly to you. We get little cameras here and we get little other iPads and display what it's catching so we can always see the person's face. Screen's on the side of the computer. Yeah, so we're talking to the screen instead of each other. Well, we are talking to each other. We are talking to each other. It'd really like a Zoom call, but we're just feet from each other, but, you know. Gosh, dang it, Matt. If there's two things I hope we talk about on today's podcast,
Starting point is 00:05:12 Number one, the Michael Jackson movie, which we both saw together. That's going to be the theme of this episode, baby. Michael Jackson. Number two. Hey, you're counting like a Russian. The Roast of Kevin Hart. I knew you were going to say it, man. Two things.
Starting point is 00:05:28 Michael Jackson, roast of Kevin Hart. Which, Matt and I haven't seen the roast of Kevin Hart. We've seen probably about, probably total about two to three minutes of clips. I'll tell you. I've seen the clips, but. But watching the whole thing, that's a little painful for me and Ryan. I don't want to see him get roasted. He's a pure soul.
Starting point is 00:05:48 And, um... The Rock was there. He talked about having a tattoo on his penis. Oh, I'm sorry. A life-sized tattoo of Kevin Hart on his penis. So either his penis is huge or Kevin Hart's super tiny. Or maybe... It's a double joke.
Starting point is 00:06:05 I think he's got a big penis and Kevin's tiny. The Rock has to have a huge penis. There's no way. around it. His penis probably looks exactly like the shape of his actual head. I was thinking the same thing. Like it's just a little rock. Like a like diglet if it was if it was the rock. Yeah, except there's no little rock. No. Well, this ain't Arkansas. Rock, the Dwayne Jr. Dwayne. The cock Johnson. Hey, there you go. Right. Honestly, man, the only the only way I could see Dwayne's cock being not gigantic could maybe be, I'm pretty sure steroid usage.
Starting point is 00:06:43 makes your penis small. Your balls. Is it your penis as well? I think your penis as well? I think your penis gets small. So if he achieved his form through steroid use, maybe. But I don't know, man. He just seems like one of those guys that God was like, yeah, just here you go. Here's a beautiful huge body.
Starting point is 00:07:02 God blessed him with bigness. Yeah, essentially. God, when, his mom must have been in some pain, give him birth. His mom might have been a big, big. He's Samoan. He's Samoan. I mean, like his whole family is just giants. Dude, if you were, I don't know if you saw it,
Starting point is 00:07:19 but the fast and furious side movie that starred Dwayne the Rock Johnson and... I didn't. I'm sorry. The guy talks like this. Jason Statham. They did a little side movie where they, what's going on? What's up? I was just looking at the lights up above to see if they were angled.
Starting point is 00:07:39 The world so high like a diamond in the sky. You know how it is, yeah. They are like stars. They are very pretty. I wish I could, uh, if we could just pretend that they were, you know, shooting stars. I could use, I could really use a wish right now. Wish right now. Wish right now?
Starting point is 00:07:57 I made a wish just in case. Can I make one do? Can I make one do? Yeah, I mean, mine was first, so I think mine would technically get delivered. And so it would take, it would take precedent over your wish. So yeah, make a wish. Amen. But Dwayne the Rock Johnson and Johnson.
Starting point is 00:08:13 And Jason Statham were in a buddy duo. They hated each other in the movie, but they had to work together. Remember something in Hobbs? Shaw, Hobbs and Shaw. Yes. And they went to the Rock, the Rock's character,
Starting point is 00:08:30 went and got his whole Samoan family to go up against the antagonist's army at the end. They were all having big bats and shirtless, and it was awesome. Samoans love doing that man. They love taking their shirts off. Are you getting those big dads? Yeah, maybe just the audio of the action scene, just like three seconds of it so people know that it's...
Starting point is 00:08:52 Yeah, here. This family is going to walk. That's enough. That should be enough. But Samoans are just naturally like, just large people. Like, they are like the biggest of the people. Somewhere. No, no.
Starting point is 00:09:10 He was Hawaiian, actually. Israel? That's why I was like, wait to say, Israel. That's his name. He's not Israeli. We were talking about Hawaii and all of a sudden Israel. No, no, no. He's the big boy that strummed on that ukulele real good and went some world.
Starting point is 00:09:25 Israel Spacey. His name was Israel. It wasn't Spacey. Oh. But speaking of Israel and Spacey, Kevin Spacey, I don't know if you saw, he, in Tel Aviv, he had a... Wait, is he doing poetry readings in Tel Aviv? On the front steps of some art building, even. better. Have you, have you seen this? No, because usually in England or somewhere, he'll be on the
Starting point is 00:09:47 front steps of some building doing a poet or sonnet or something. It's pretty sick. I know what you're talking about. I'm sure. Is he reading poetry? Is he reading poetry? Is he giving a monologue? Is he giving a monologue? He's giving the gentleman's monologue, which is tap dancing, scatting. Hold on, dude. I can't believe you haven't seen this. Wait a second. This is recent. In the the last like six months. Kevin Spacey he got like a residency in Tel Aviv where he does like an entertainment
Starting point is 00:10:20 show like a gentleman's entertainment show. Does he have a hat and a cane and shit? You just need to see the fucking clip. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. It's essentially yeah. He's got a bow tie on. He has no undershirt by the way. Do you notice this? I noticed that but look at that dude.
Starting point is 00:10:43 Why isn't he on Saturday Night Live Israel? Because you know they just came out with a SNL, an SNL. Dude, he's doing the same thing that, like, Seth MacFarlane does at his own house parties. He'll, like randomly, like, I've heard that, like, he'll just throw a, throw a shin dig, and he will come out on some little stage or something and just start singing for people. It's a surprise every time at his own party. He's like, oh, we know why Seth's throwing a part. He wants to perform. It's like, relax. You know, you can take the night off, relax. Can I have a few drinks.
Starting point is 00:11:17 would you rather? It seems today he just sings that family guy themes us That'd be awesome dude It seems today That all you see
Starting point is 00:11:28 He could probably do a killer rendition of it Dude the best thing in the world And it's not going to happen In this universe Fuck! But the best thing in the world Would be Seth MacFarlane Opening for Epic Rap Battles of History
Starting point is 00:11:39 Where he then gets to perform Some of the Epic Rap Battles as characters Or and they Release a new song That stars him as Frank Sinatra. Frank Sinatra. Verses.
Starting point is 00:11:52 Is Epic Lloyd the other one? Elvis has already been to... Are we sure that they haven't done Frank Sinatra yet on an Epic Rap Battles? Maybe they have. I don't know if they have, though, and it wasn't... I'm looking for my phone device. I got to look this up. Your cellular device?
Starting point is 00:12:07 ERB. Epic Rap Battles of History. Which, by the way, Epic Rap Battles of History. Epic Lloyd, Nice Peter. Frank Sinatra. Yeah. Epic Lloyd, Nice Peter. I know you guys.
Starting point is 00:12:17 guys are big fans of Super Mega Show. Please, please, please let me and Ryan do an epic rap out as a history. We can rap. We are good. Did they? Yeah. They did. And who plays Frank Sinatra?
Starting point is 00:12:28 Don't tell me it's... Let me see. It's Epic Lloyd. It's Epic Lloyd. Yeah. And nice Peters in it as well. Versus who? Freddie Mercury.
Starting point is 00:12:39 Yeah. Some of the epic rap out as a history make like just clear sense. It's like, oh, obviously. Like, like Mr. T versus Mr. Mr. Rogers. It's like, oh, yeah. I like that because the duels, the one that I just read, Frank Sinatra versus Freddie Mercury, maybe because one's classy and one's like crazy and partying all the time. Or one's straight and one's gay. I think that's more where they were getting at. I haven't seen it, but I'm sure that's probably what most of the digs are about. It vary just, just uncool. Can we get a compilation? You don't have to do it, but I'm just asking the audience, can we get a compilation of all the poorly aged epic rap battles of history disses why are you going to do my boys nice Peter and epic like that? Because I want to watch it for myself so I can enjoy it
Starting point is 00:13:26 to me it's all the best stuff right and the joyer of comedy honestly like I think that so they had like red and link is the right brother no they had redden link is Mario and Luigi maybe or the right brothers I think maybe both Red and Link were the right were the... They were the Wright brothers
Starting point is 00:13:46 and the Mario Brothers? I think so, I think so. I thought it was the Wright brothers versus the Mario brothers. You know what? That's what it is. And Epic Lloyd and Ice Peter were the Mario.
Starting point is 00:13:54 They were. Yes. We could, like, have us on as some kind of duo. Like, you and I could... Dude, there's so many good, good, duos you and I could be in. And we're good at rapping.
Starting point is 00:14:05 The two stooges and, you know, classic. The two stooges. We could... Now, they probably, dude, they've done so. Like, try to think of a character. I'm going to look it up, and they've probably already done it in terms of, like, I mean,
Starting point is 00:14:17 how many epic rap battles of histories have there been? Over 100? Definitely over 100. So, yeah, not, now to come to think of it, I can't, I can't, I actually can't think of any, like, duos that you and I might be able to. They've done Hitler twice. Yeah. You know who we'd be good at?
Starting point is 00:14:32 If they did a breaking bad one, you and I. They did do it. They did. We could be, like, the ones that come in halfway is, like, the backup is Skinny Pete and Epic Lloyd. Fuck. Skinny Pete and Dodger. Badger. Badger.
Starting point is 00:14:44 Well, now I wish on the show it was skinny Pete and Epic Lloyd. That would have been sick. I mean, if it was actually them, God, that would be so great. They had Bill Burr on. He's a comedian, just like Epic Lloyd and Nice Peter. Nice Peter's more of a musician. Yeah, a great musician at that. I've said this many times.
Starting point is 00:15:02 I'm not just sucking his dick. I'm being serious. He's great a song compositions. You have before, but in this instance, you're not actually sucking his dick. We don't have to always go there. the hub. I like people who apparently frequent porn hub so much
Starting point is 00:15:19 they call it the hub. Oh, it's the hub, dude. Have you seen what's on the hub lately? Just go on the hub. Oh, oh, you haven't heard about her. The hub for what? Her tape. The porn hub.
Starting point is 00:15:30 Oh. Dude, that's the start of like a movie trailer where it's like the story of porn hub. Yeah. It's on the hub. The hub? The porn hub. Drop to the.
Starting point is 00:15:41 Just porn hub. Porn hub. They're... I haven't... Usually they have... They're, like, in the headlines for... For trolling some people. And, you know...
Starting point is 00:15:54 Pornhub trolls? Pornhub trolls. The hub trolls? Oh, yeah. I can't really remember any specifics, unfortunately. But it's like they'll... It's mostly towards, like, Republicans. They'll troll Republicans, like, lawmen and stuff.
Starting point is 00:16:10 Can Republicans catch a break, please? What have they done to anyone else? Honestly, porn hub, very interesting if you look into it. They have. Really? They, the company, I don't know if porn hub is the company, but whatever company owns Porn Hub, they also own, like, all the other top porn websites. What?
Starting point is 00:16:34 Hasbro. Hasbro, yeah, they own all the other top porn websites, like X videos. They have a monopoly on porn websites? Yeah, they do, they do. Like, all the other competitors to Pornhub that you're like, oh, those are the, no, they're all the same. company. They just have, they diversified. Not really, but it's just a new coat of paint on a website. It's the same video is just another coat of paint. Yeah, it's interesting. The same search engine and
Starting point is 00:16:58 everything. Is that what you're telling me? I don't know if it's the same search engine, but they own all of them pretty much. Like all, all the big ones. That's, that's all porn hub, which is surprising that like, like, why don't they just combine them into one big hub? The hub. I mean, they did, and then people tried to steal it. You know, they, oh, porn hub. Then, you know, YouTube was big and popular. And then thus came Red Tube. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:25 Which still, looking back at YouTube Red, what were they thinking with that? What was the Red tube? Was the Red tube? The record button? I guess because it's like their brand color, but it's like instead of YouTube Premium, which it is now. Back at the time when they started, it was YouTube Red. And I'm like, are you guys not making the connection there?
Starting point is 00:17:42 Red Tube, YouTube Red. Red Tube is a huge porn website. Well, the company that, own that like took control over them had google plus they could have just made youtube plus google plus was a was also a short-lived dude do you remember when we started super mega google plus was still a thing and for us to be oh my god to get the checkmark on our channel at the time to be verified we had to have like because youtube accounts were linked to google plus accounts and there was a requirement where you had to have a certain number of like followers on
Starting point is 00:18:15 Google Plus. So I remember you and I begging people at the beginning of Super Mega to go like follow us on Google Plus as well. It's like guys Addis is a friend on Google Plus so we can get this checkmark. We need 3,000 friends. And then one day they were like, yeah, forget about it. Well, thank God they because Google Plus suck. I hate the thing that's the worst. And it's with any company is when YouTube used to do this a lot. And still to a degree does it or we're just so used to it. That doesn't matter. But it's when a company introduces something new. and they know that the only way to get people to use it is to force it down their throats.
Starting point is 00:18:50 Because they're not going to naturally, like, no one's going to go naturally make a Google Plus account and be like, yeah, this is the guys, this is it, is the new shit. Hook up your Google Plus account to your AdSense account. What was the point of Google Plus? Was it just them trying to go for like Myspace, Facebook type thing? Like a LinkedIn type thing?
Starting point is 00:19:07 I don't think, because LinkedIn's like for jobs where Google Plus seemed like it was like your profile. Yeah. I don't know, but they were trying to integrate it with business. is so it was supposed to be I really don't know what they were doing I think it was their take on Facebook This is what happens when the idea guys get fired and then just the stockholders are left to go Yeah for real when when when it's just left like the dudes in the suits in the boardroom like Oh, we got some great ideas because because there is really like that huge disconnect that has always existed that
Starting point is 00:19:40 Companies have tried forever to bridge the gap and have never successfully done it where you have the guys who were really good at ideas in creating and then you have the dudes in the boardroom that are thinking about profits and they and the guys in the boardroom thinking about profits they never are able to actually like concoct ideas that people actually want they're good at thinking of ideas that will like drive up revenue potentially in theory but but they also just ruin ideas that would have been good without their input like think of like any games or movies for instance that like the classic thing, like whenever a movie feels off or feels like why is it like spoon-feeding me this, all the story points and stuff. And it's because studio execs are chirping in and be like,
Starting point is 00:20:28 are we sure the audience won't be confused? We want to, like, no matter even if it's like a gory rated R horror movie, I feel like yes, they're like still people are given like leeway, but still the studio likes to have their grips and likes to, we know what the people want, and we want to make sure that this specific genre can be watched by anyone. It's like they're trying to open it up, and that closes off people's interest to it, because a specific genre is known for, like, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:21:01 when I'm thinking of, like, horror action, when you see a really good horror action movie, it stands out amongst the, like, C-tier movies that we're used to seeing. Like, I just get bored in the middle of a lot of movies, They're just like middle of the road. They're just like cookie cutter, you know? And when they spoon feed you everything, I think that really kills a movie's potential for like longevity.
Starting point is 00:21:24 Because like I think a lot of movies people remember, or like the movies that stick with people in the movies that you afterwards are thinking about a lot where you're kind of trying to like dissect it and chew on all the different things and you're kind of like making things click after the fact. And I think studio execs They want a movie just to be downright They want it to be consumable That's the whole thing
Starting point is 00:21:48 They want it to be the most consumable possible For the consumer Which means making it as dumb as possible So like even the dumbest of the dums Can understand it And I don't want to sit here and sound like I'm like oh well we're so genius And we understand film
Starting point is 00:22:02 And these normies that don't With a lower IQ They want plot point Like well for instance in Netflix We've talked about I think we talked about As the last podcast or two podcasts ago, they literally will, like, have a thing, apparently I read where they will have to
Starting point is 00:22:16 restate the plot, like, every five minutes or ten minutes or something. Like, that's, like, a note that, like, Netflix does, where it's just like, people are looking at their phones and, you know, sometimes they're distracted. Well, we want to remind them what's, what's up, what's going on? I guess two things. A, yeah, I guess when people are watching things that make it three. Three things, okay, I can make it three things. Um, three things.
Starting point is 00:22:39 One, I guess it's different when, when, I guess, like, back in the day, people were going to see movies at a movie theater fully uninterrupted. So, I guess the attention span aspect of it was, was a little, like they didn't have to, you know, spoon feed it as much because they know everyone is dialed in just on that. We're now, I guess, they know that people are going to be watching things at home where they're going to be getting up. They're going to be on their phone. so they have to make it more because even I guess like a simple movie some people might be on their phone
Starting point is 00:23:11 half the time and then go I didn't get it and then say the movie was bad I don't know also another thing is I guess people's attention spans are more fucked nowadays because of social media and stuff I noticed that with myself too
Starting point is 00:23:24 like I will be like watching something typically if it's a movie I want to pay attention to I'll pay attention through it without like getting on my phone or anything but I do find myself just kind of like putting on like whether it's a Twitch stream or a long YouTube video and then while that's going on, I'll be like browsing TikTok or Reddit or looking through it.
Starting point is 00:23:41 It's just like I remember, you remember a time where we just, one screen was enough, whether it was the TV or, a book was enough. Yeah. I can't imagine that now. No,
Starting point is 00:23:52 makes me sound like an idiot, but like, dude, I cannot sit down and read a book. It's like my brain needs, and I hate that. I need to be trapped to read a book. I need to be like in an airplane or on vacation.
Starting point is 00:24:04 We've just been so, conditioned like our attention spent it's just because it's that it's that fast dopamine dude it's those little little hits of dopamine it's like drip feeding it and it's like if you can introduce one more drip of it at the same time so it's like I'm watching a movie but I can also be scrolling on my phone they're doing it on purpose you were just talking about with advertisements essentially them feeding you ideas so that they can eventually sell you like they're not it goes a step further than just listening to you and then showing you what you said or something through your phone's microphone. Like if I said, man, I could really use a smoothie right now and then an ad for
Starting point is 00:24:46 Jamba Juice pops up 10 seconds later. Let's see if that happens later, by the way. You were telling me like, advertisement, I guess this has just been a thing in advertisement forever, but like more insidiously through technology and stuff and through algorithms, they are planting the seed of what you might want so that then it'll mold you into just it appearing before you even think about it essentially. Yeah, because I remember seeing some thread somewhere where someone was like, I was thinking about something. I didn't even say it. And then I got an ad for it.
Starting point is 00:25:19 Are they reading my mind? And then someone was like, well, the answer you're not going to like is they're not reading your mind. They're like conditioning you in ways. so like you're going to think of these things because of them without you realizing it. It just makes me more fearful of the social media than I already was. It's just like I do feel like it's a their little puppet strings do. I feel the pull sometimes.
Starting point is 00:25:48 Oh, we're not immune to it. No, God, no. We could sit here and talk about like, oh, they've got these algorithms that are, you know, influencing people to do this. It's like, we're very not immune. I feel it and notice it. And it's a gross feeling. when you start to just like, like we're doing now, like thinking about it.
Starting point is 00:26:02 It's like, oh, shit. Like, yeah, all of this, like, just at the end of the day is just companies trying to induce dopamine in whatever way it can. Or fucking just the raw emotion of anger and hatred. They're trying to fuel that because it gets you to come and gets you to interact with their things, which means more clicks, which means more information from you that than they can sell to third parties. Yeah, it's funny. They rage bait you literally with the end goal of selling you something completely unrelated. Yep.
Starting point is 00:26:35 You know, it's like they're rage baiting you with the way your algorithm is set up. So you look at something so then you'll stumble upon, you know, you'll see more ads. Do you want to talk about Michael Jackson after these ad reads? Yeah, speaking of ads. Here you go, guys. When thinning starts, it's not just your hair that takes a hit. It can change how you feel day in, day out. Hymns makes it simple.
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Starting point is 00:29:14 You know, Michael, the movie. Michael Jackson, the movie. So over the weekend, Ryan and I had the privilege and the pleasure of going to see the new Michael Jackson movie, Michael, the movie. And I knew we were in for a treat the second that Universal Pictures logo popped up on screen. Because it, dude, fuck man. I knew it was going to be a good two and half hours because it was back to back by the way. It was. It starts off with like the very first thing is you see like the universal pictures logo coming in and you just hear like this echoing like he.
Starting point is 00:29:54 And then after I think something else, another production company logo comes up and you just hear. Yeah, you're like, tomorrow! And I was like with like inspirational like kind of in the background like welling, you know, instrumental. music and I was like, this is going to be good. Probably the best opening to a movie all year. I don't know how we're going to beat that. Name a better opening to a movie that came out this year. You can't, can you?
Starting point is 00:30:19 I mean, when we go see Disclosure Day, I'm excited to see Disclosure Day. Disclosure Day is going to be pretty good. Or The Odyssey. One of those, I don't know how they're going to top that. The Odyssey, I'm afraid, might be his, like, another tenant. It's not like the same. Oh, it's too confusing, but it's just kind of like, hmm, I don't know. I hope it doesn't fall flat, but
Starting point is 00:30:40 I don't know Travis Scott is in the Odyssey Let's not kid ourselves here Yeah he is Yeah he is Why is Travis Scott in the Odyssey? I don't know I mean I told Darwin that
Starting point is 00:30:53 And he thought I was making some kind of joke When I was like First look at Travis Scott And Christopher Nolan's Odyssey I'm like no he's actually He's like one of the main points Of one of the trailers Fucking everyone is in the Odyssey
Starting point is 00:31:03 Like Shane from the Walking Dead Is in the Odyssey Robert Pattinson I watched the trailer and I was just like every face they should I was like oh Charlize they're on Scarlett Johansson
Starting point is 00:31:16 I don't know about I swear I saw her in the trailer Anne Hathaway Ann Hathaway Matt Damon Travis Scott Travis Scott's the big one
Starting point is 00:31:26 It's funny because Benny Safte's playing this like ginormous aura farming like soldier God thing. It looks like he's like Ares or something.
Starting point is 00:31:41 I haven't seen his character. I just saw him on the Wikipedia page. Have you not? Can I please? Please. Well, it makes, actually, it makes sense he's in it just because he was in Oppenheimer. And I really liked his character in Oppenheimer.
Starting point is 00:31:54 He was the comedic relief. And he did a good job in Oppenheimer. I'll tell you that. He's like this. Oh. Hold up. Let me. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:05 Yeah, I look to like him. That's him. I guess he's playing like the god of war or something like that. Not Cratos, the god of war. I wish. They should have Benny Safdi play Matt Damon's character. Isn't Aries the god of war as well? Aries is...
Starting point is 00:32:24 A.R. No, no, no. Actually, when I think of Aries, like, the star sign, I do think of like a warrior, for some reason. Aries is the Greek god of war. Okay. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. interesting you know when I think of the god of war I wouldn't think necessarily have been saffty but Hollywood magic we'll see what happens I hope that he pulls a Matt
Starting point is 00:32:47 a Matt Damon in a what's the movie he was a surprise in interstellar yeah I hope he they pulled that where it's just like some dude comes out of left field like they bring in Bradley Cooper for no reason he's just like oh fuck if it was giant Bradley Cooper and they'd just like shitty CGI to one eye on to them instead of two. As the Cyclops? That would be sick. But the Cyclops does look good. Who plays the Cyclops?
Starting point is 00:33:13 Is it Travis Scott? Travis Clops? No, I was kind of hoping. Unfortunately, I didn't see him in the credits. Maybe I missed him. But I was kind of hoping the, it would be, uh, what's his fucking name? The guy who did Gullum and, and Caesar the ape. And a villain in black.
Starting point is 00:33:35 Panther? What's that guy's name? He directed the Mowgli movie we saw in theaters. John Favreau. No. No. I know you're talking about it. I'm not sure the name.
Starting point is 00:33:48 Cedric the entertainer. He did not do Gullum. Okay. Maybe it's Cedric something. I searched Travis Scott in the Odyssey and Google Jim and I. This is what it says.
Starting point is 00:33:59 Travis Scott isn't in the Odyssey, M-Dash. He's a contemporary rapper. Not a character in Homer's epic. Andy Circus, by the way Andy Circus, okay But I wish it was him But it's not
Starting point is 00:34:11 It just looks like I mean It's a CGI character Through through it through I think Okay Why would Google Jim and I Lie to me like that
Starting point is 00:34:19 With such fucking attitude He is in the Odyssey He is in the Odyssey Right here I'm looking at it Are there any other big names? He plays Democatus We're getting way off
Starting point is 00:34:30 The Michael Jackson Tracks Yeah we barely spoken about it But I'm sorry I just again I just want to Travis Scott isn't in the Odyssey, M-Dash. He's a contemporary rapper, not a character in Homer's epic. Like, what's what the attitude do?
Starting point is 00:34:43 I mean, technically they're right, but... But he is in the Odyssey. It's like when someone thinks they already know what you're going to say or think, you know... When someone thinks they already know what you're going to ask, and before you even get the full question out, they answer it like it's like... It's like, ah, da, that, that, that, that, da, da. It's like, no, no, just hold on. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:35:02 I wasn't done yet. Let's just, yeah, I understand. that much. Let me actually get my words out. Yabish, Yabish, a Travis Scott song. Oh, yeah. It was a Freddie Dredd song called Yibbitch as well. I don't think that was a Travis Scott song. I don't know whoever. No, that's Kendrick, isn't it? Da-na-na-na-na-na-na-a-ha-a-a-bish.
Starting point is 00:35:20 I think it's Kendrick. Right? Or Freddy Dred. To Pimp a butterfly? Yep. Well, Freddy Dread also has an album called The Pimper Butterfly, which I think Kendrick copied. Michael Jackson. Ice Man. Yes. Sorry, I wanted to talk about Ice Man real quick. Are you excited for it? The Drake album?
Starting point is 00:35:39 Sorry, dude. You probably, if you went back and replay it, you could see my eyes light up the second the neurons can actually. Can you show that in black and white smoke? I was, I was like, we're talking about movies and I was like, is there a movie called Ice Man? Because it sounds like a movie and then it was like, Drake! Wait, there is a movie called Ice Man about the fucking mobster hit guy who kills people.
Starting point is 00:36:00 Who's a real guy who's still alive, right? Yeah. Iceman? And we're glorifying him with a movie? Okay, sorry. We'll get back on Michael Jackson. Well, no, we won't because he's dead. If he was still alive, though, we'd be on that shit.
Starting point is 00:36:12 Yeah, we would. You and I would be over at Neverland Ranch up in Santa Barbara County going, dude, he'd be watching our videos going, this is just, this is the best. God, these guys are great. I want to have him over for a sleepover. Call him up, call him, get him over here. If we could be Michael Jackson's best friends. I would.
Starting point is 00:36:27 I would, definitely. But overall, you know, we went into it with a fun little group, you know, Jack's Films was there. Yeah. And J-Man. Jay-Man. The one the only Johnson. Juckman.
Starting point is 00:36:44 Juckman. Justin Juckman. You know, I'm, you... Call him that on his stream and see if he, uh... Junkman? ...blows a gasket. A casket, more like, because he'll be dead from laughter. No, Juckman, that's not my last name.
Starting point is 00:37:01 What is Juckman? Junkman? Johnson. It's Justin. Y'all really just can't talk about that fucking movie, can you? We're putting it off. We're putting it off because there's, there's, there's so much to talk about. I know that once we get into it, guys, it's going to be hard to get us, get us out of it.
Starting point is 00:37:19 And, um, okay, we, but we did go with a little group. We did. And after these ads, we'll talk more about it. Come on, come on. But it was the perfect time. We needed tenor, it was started at 38. Are we really going to do that? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:37:35 Are we going to go to ads? I mean, we're contractually obligated to. And they like it at 40 minutes and it has been about 40 minutes. But it's really going to piss some Michael Jackson heads off. But then we end the podcast with the best discussion of all time about Michael Jackson. Just kidding. We're going to talk about Michael Jackson. That's good.
Starting point is 00:38:00 We'll do an ad read in a little bit. We will. We will. We'll talk about Michael Jackson a bit. But we went with Justin Mutt lag in Jack's films. and, you know, I was, I sat between a stranger and Justin. In a hard place. Well, he was hard.
Starting point is 00:38:17 Justin was very hard the whole movie. I wish I could have sat by you. You walked in the theater. I think you were in the bathroom a little bit later. So I was the first of the row, so I had to take a seat. Jack saved me a seat. You know, I didn't want to be standing there like, no, no, no, I want to sit by Ryan. You should have, dude.
Starting point is 00:38:35 I really wanted to because, dude, that whole movie, I was sitting there. like, God, I wish I could be leaning over to Ryan and delivering quips that would just really enhance the experience. Did you ever try to catch my eye once? Like, were you ever like, okay, is he going to look at me? Like, because, you know. There was one part where I was like, I kind of looked over it.
Starting point is 00:38:52 But the thing was, because you were several people down, I would really have to lean forward. It's obvious to everyone in our row that I'm trying to get someone's attention. And a lot of the times I wanted to grab your attention. It would have been like a quick little. It would have been during a part where people would be like, why is he trying to get his friend's attention during this part? you know they'd be like oh he's trying to make a joke about how serious this when bubbles came on
Starting point is 00:39:15 that's when i like i kind of shudder forward to just like for me it was more about like seeing if you were going to catch my attention because i didn't want to leave you hanging i was wondering what was going to be in the truck there's a part where michael jackson wakes his whole family up and it's early in the morning there's a big delivery truck he's here it's here guys come on it's here and everyone comes out in the front yard like oh my and he's like oh my god uh he's so excited. And then a guy, a delivery man, goes around to the back of the truck and it's like a big, like,
Starting point is 00:39:45 moment in the movie and then... He unravels it. You don't see what's in it. His brother, one of his, I don't know which one, but he goes... And then you see from around the corner of the truck a little tiny chimpanzee goes... The most the most beautiful CGI chimpanzee you've ever seen in the film. I couldn't even tell it was CGI until you told me
Starting point is 00:40:04 after the movie. I was like, damn, really? Impressive. No, but the... The use of CGI throughout the entirety of the movie was pretty bad. I mean, right off the get-go, I mean, like, the first shot of the movie was a, one of the first shots was a, was a, was a, like a drone shot of Gary Indiana, which instead of going to get a shot of Gary Indiana, you know, that's very difficult. It's out of budget. They're like, let's just recreate Gary Indiana with C.G. And make it look like some weird, whimsical, like, 1920s, like, coal town with, dude, I don't even know how to describe it. Like, that is not what Gary Indiana looks like.
Starting point is 00:40:40 Dude, how much would it have cost them to just send, like, a small, like, B team to go get a shot of over, like, with a drone of overhead Gary, Indiana? Like, genuinely, in modern movies, I don't understand the use of CG in some of these cases where it's like, truly, it's like, why are you completely creating from the ground up Gary Indiana for. for a CG shot instead of just getting a drone shot of Gary, Indiana. Is it because it had to take place back in the 50s? And if they go get a shot now, if that's not how Gary looks. But even so, like, even if, I don't know, it looked ridiculous. Because Gary, Indiana is a busy place. Right.
Starting point is 00:41:27 It's going to be hard not to get any cars in a shot. Right. Or any of the modern skyscrapers they have in Gary, Indiana, or, like, flashing billboards and lights. but uh god dude I just I but before we went into the movie
Starting point is 00:41:42 you know I don't I don't smoke marijuana very often I smoke some of your marijuana Ryan and I walked into that movie and I was like woo you were you ready to take in the Michael as it came as he came
Starting point is 00:41:55 I sat down and then just that universal pictures in the hey hey dude I everyone in the theater did laugh yeah there was some laughter but then I don't know if you heard but in front of me and the row in front of me
Starting point is 00:42:08 and over to the right, there was like a group of people that were enjoying the movie, but like they weren't doing this ironically. They were really into it. And anytime anything serious would happen, they would like vocally, audibly like make a sound. So, um,
Starting point is 00:42:28 my mom's like that. Yeah. So was my mom. It was like that. So I remember like the first scene when they get back from, so Joe Jackson books them a gig, the Jackson 5 goes out, and they perform and, God, they knock the fucking
Starting point is 00:42:42 socks off that venue. They come home late at night. They're all wiped, tired, ready to end the night. But, and I'll tell you, man, like, if I was their daddy and they had just performed like that, I'd be buying my boys milkshakes.
Starting point is 00:42:57 I'd say, you guys did so good. But you're not black, so you couldn't be their daddy. Unfortunately not. And Joe, Ryan, I don't want to... Joe Jones? I don't want you to bring my race into everything. Well, it's hard not to.
Starting point is 00:43:14 Look at you. Fucking pasty-ass, motherfucker. I'm honky, okay. I know. All you crackers are the same to me. Okay. Okay, so they come home and Michael's like, we're so talented.
Starting point is 00:43:31 You guys, we did a great job. And Joe's like, oh, you think you did a good job, huh? And then that's when like the guys in front of me like, oh, hmm, you can like hear like the, you capture that scene so fucking well. I just like,
Starting point is 00:43:45 you capture the hokeyness and cheesiness. Oh, that entire scene so well. Because Joe's like, oh, you think you did a good job, huh? And Michael's like,
Starting point is 00:43:54 we certainly did. We all did so good. Yep. And then he's like, no, you're not going to bed. We're going to practice. And he's like,
Starting point is 00:44:03 what? But we were so good out there. We all stand. it's so good. Y'all were great. You know, that type of energy. I was like, mm. And when he gets the belt and,
Starting point is 00:44:12 he starts fucking whipping the shit out of Michael with that belt. Whole theater went quiet then. Yeah, it did. I was like, Justin, do not, do not loudly make any comments or laugh at this part. Do you know how scared I was sitting next
Starting point is 00:44:24 to a drunk Jack's films hoping to God he would not start cackling at the most, you know, inopportune moments? And I didn't, thank God. Yeah. But I was, but I was, I was,
Starting point is 00:44:35 I was afraid. You were scared that as soon as he took the belt off because it was one of those things where it's like, he's like, come here, Michael, and you see him start to undo the belt, you know what's coming. That's also the guys in front of me were like,
Starting point is 00:44:48 hmm, you know what's coming. Beating scene. Yeah. And I could have, you know, heard Jack's films maybe start cackling right there because he loves that kind of stuff.
Starting point is 00:44:59 So, but, but yeah, dude, that movie, I mean, I don't even like I don't even know where to go with like there's so much to talk about and now I feel like we've we can go to ads
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Starting point is 00:45:28 I'm energized to talk about Michael I'll gather my thoughts And y'all In between you know, pause the video, because we want you to watch the ads, of course, but please brush your teeth. I know a lot of you think that only brushing your teeth once a day, like at night is the thing, no, morning. I don't even know if they think that.
Starting point is 00:45:46 It's like once a week. Yeah. So let's get up. Seriously, be responsible. Go brush your teeth. And let's floss. Yeah. I know you don't have to do it every time, but I'm serious.
Starting point is 00:45:58 That's more important than brushing on us. You're going to get a root canal if you don't floss. Seriously. And that's a lot of money. I've had a root canal. It hurts. Not a knot. They got to go deep.
Starting point is 00:46:07 And make sure you don't wipe until it's light, you know, on the toilet paper. Wipe till it's gone. It's gone. No brown. No brown. You want white on that paper. Badae would help, but. No, a lot of you can't afford that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:20 It's 20, like 20 bucks. That's right. That's right. That's right, baby. Michael's back. Yeah, he is. Michael's back from the dead. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:46:49 That was just, that was crass. He's not. It was callous for me. He's not. He's not back from the dead. No. Although, the movie did.
Starting point is 00:46:56 Yeah. It ended on a note. Justin was telling me it was greenlit where like they are making a sequel. Okay. Well, hold up. Where they ended the movie from that point on, I don't know how they'd make a sequel while avoiding everything. Because the movie basically ends like at the height of like Michael.
Starting point is 00:47:18 Like early 90s, late 80s. I thought it was like 88. It might have been 80s. It was like there's some show in Madison Square Garden, I think, in 80s. It was the last, it was the end of the tour with his brothers. No, no, no, no. Because after that, it cuts, that was like 84 or something. Because it cuts to 88, and he's, it's ponytail Michael Jackson.
Starting point is 00:47:37 That's right, that's right. Because after that point, though, the allegations were in the early 90s, and then that kind of hung over him for the rest of his life. So I don't know how they would do another movie while avoiding all that. Following the successful April 26 release of the Michael Jackson biopic, Michael, Lionsgate is developing a sequel, tentatively titled Michael 2.
Starting point is 00:48:03 I was hoping you were going to say Michael 2. With the film expected to cover the later complex years of Jackson's life aiming for a potential release, there's, dude, there's no way they're going to cover any of that shit. I mean, that's all the movie could be. And you got, when we got to the end of the movie and showed all the producer names, It's all the other Jackson's.
Starting point is 00:48:23 So like, I don't see them touching on that. It's going to be, no pun intended. I mean, this one was already setting up for it for the defense. I mean, how many times did they show the cover of Peter Pan or some art from the book Peter Pan? Like four to five times. It would be like Michael Jackson be sad and he'd like roll over in his hospital bed and you would just see like Neverland like the Peter Pan book and he's like, Neverland. He reads it to bubbles in one scene or shows it to bubbles. He never grows up.
Starting point is 00:48:52 Isn't that awesome bubbles? And then at one point they use it for like a, you know, he's Peter Pan and Joe Jackson is Captain Hook. Dude, it was so heavy. Like, it shows, so the scene after Joe gives him a little whoopin, it cuts to Michael Jackson, young Michael. And he's under the covers with a flashlight. And he's reading Peter Pan. And it like, it's all emotional. And you see an illustration of Peter Pan.
Starting point is 00:49:20 taking Captain Hook off of the plank into the ocean with the crocodiles. And Michael has drawn an arrow to Captain Hook. And it says, Joseph. My father. Joseph Jackson. That's the problem with fucking biopic movies. It's like they give you such a sanitized version. Like I think about, oh, what would, Taryn, Taryn Edgerton from, he played,
Starting point is 00:49:48 Rocket Man And then you had What's his name who played Prince? Or Freddie Mercury, sorry, not Prince. Ramey? Yeah. Wait. What's his, yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:03 I'm sorry, I was thinking of like Sam Ramey. No, no, no. The director of Evil Dead. Which, Sasha Baron Gron. Ramey Malick. Was originally going to play Freddie Mercury. He was on a good job, I think. I think so, too.
Starting point is 00:50:13 But it's just like none of these movies, unless even at, I haven't seen Walk Hard, but maybe that goes into Johnny Cash's, like, shit pretty hard. From what I remember, Walk Hard, goes pretty heavy into his, yeah, goes heavy into his, like, divorce and his addictions and stuff. It's just, I don't know. Even the Ray Charles movie. I remember. Oh, yeah. I saw that when I was younger.
Starting point is 00:50:44 That goes into some pretty heavy shit. But, like, Michael. since the estate's still you know exactly and his nephew is playing him and the producers are all members of the family it's like I just don't see them ever going into a movie that's going to explore that kind of side of it does that mean they're going to
Starting point is 00:51:00 villainize parents or kids there's no way they're good at their like they can't avoid it I picture the entirety of the movie being like dude are we going to get a blanket scene on the balcony of him
Starting point is 00:51:18 dropping almost dropping blanket off of like a fucking four-story. Dude, we might get Martin Bashir. Like, who would play him, you know? Aziz Ansari? Why would that be? I don't know. He's the most prominent comedic Indian actor in America. He could play Martin Bashir.
Starting point is 00:51:36 He could be. I'm trying to see, like, what other moments, like, what are they going to, you know? When they arrest him at Santa Barbara and they throw it, they lock him in a bath, him and throw doo-doo feces all over the wall? I wonder if the scene where they take pictures of his penis is going to be in it? Because that happened. We can only hope. Honestly, like, I could see them doing it where it's, like, framed around the persecution of Michael Jackson.
Starting point is 00:52:05 He's just trying to help children, and then they arrest him, take some pictures of his penis, and throw him in a room, a locked room of doo-do feces on the wall. And it stunk so bad. How does a... I did not know they were doing a sequel. How does someone, with the success of Michael Jackson, get a doctor who's not even, like, supposed to be injecting him with the shit he was injecting with her? The doctor didn't know the dosed shit, I guess.
Starting point is 00:52:36 Gave him way too much. You'd think, I don't know. The best of the best. Well, well... Was he a family doctor? Did Joe know him? When you're that famous... Oh, anyone's going to be like...
Starting point is 00:52:47 Well, also, he wanted, like, Michael Jackson was not seeking a therapeutic dose of drugs. No. You know. His milk. He wanted his milk. As you told me. Yeah, that's what he called it. His milk.
Starting point is 00:52:57 Really puts a, I told you, it puts a new light on the, you know, give him hot milk, cookies. No, but it's not like the doctor was just some, like, average nobody. It's like, you know, when you're that famous and you're going to get a doctor who's going to give you exactly what you want. You know, you're going to get a doctor that's going to give you the dose you want of whatever. you want. He's in jail, aren't? You're rich. Yeah. Well, not anymore. He went to jail for a certain period, but he's out now. Oh. For killing Michael Jackson? For murdering Michael Jackson. Dude, how has he not been like, I'm not saying this shit happen, of course, but I'm like, Michael Heads are insane. They are, dude. I'm surprised Michael heads haven't shown up to his plays.
Starting point is 00:53:37 We still get comments on, uh, so our sketch we did, um, Michael Jackson's PR agents be like, we got the real Michael Jackson. Yeah. And on the ghost of Michael's. The comments. on that, on, like, I see notifications all the time on our Instagram reel of that, where it's just like, nonstop, still to this day, there are fights in the comments, just of just Jackson heads, just going crazy on his innocence. And two things I will say, they did make it a point in the movie, tying this in with, like, innocent and all that, but it's just like, they did mention, it's like, there's something special about you.
Starting point is 00:54:12 They always made, it's like, they made him seem like he was some sort of, like, superhero. It's like, there's just, something different about you, Michael. I always knew, like, even your brothers, you're just different. You're not like your brothers, Michael. I'm like, how? What am I, like, like, yeah, Michael Jackson was special.
Starting point is 00:54:28 Some conversation of mom to have with their son, it's like, I do have a favorite. You're better than all the rest of your siblings. From the moment you were born, I knew you were special, Michael, better than all the, all the rest of them. And honestly, like, that's another thing with, with biopics. It was just the, just the classic, heavy-handed, like, scenes of, like, they just constantly showing, like, as a kid, just adults being like, you're special. And don't let anyone ever tell you different.
Starting point is 00:54:54 He told a lot of people told him he was special. But Joe would barge in the room and go, Michael, uh, you got to come work with your brothers now. Come on, Michael. Come on, Michael. Come on, big nose. And then, and then he'd be like, uh, the, the, the, the kind caring adult that was kind of, like, giving like a real father experience, Michael would be like,
Starting point is 00:55:16 Go on, Michael. I can show you this stuff another time. Dude, okay. I don't know if, I don't know the actor who played. So Michael Jackson, since he was a kid, apparently, I guess. I don't know the name of this guy, but he's had like the same driver all throughout his life. The guy with the Safari hat?
Starting point is 00:55:34 Dude, does he not look like the lead singer in LMFAO? Dude, I, well, now that you say it. I kept looking at him and I'm like, is that? No way. Also, dude, I'm sorry, that goofy, that goofy ass hat he wore? Was that, like, did he really wear that in real life? Or am I thinking of Macklemore? He also looked like McElmore.
Starting point is 00:55:53 He kind of looked like if he could buy Maclemore with the lead singer of Lema-A-O. And then gave him like a safari hat that was not full safari. Like the brim was a little bit smaller, but like he just, that hat was awesome, man. He rocked at the whole movie. Well, what was it? It was like, it's over, Joe. It's over Joe.
Starting point is 00:56:10 Dude, the Indian, like when Michael Jackson finally, you know, tells. Did he do that? Did he actually like... Basically, he was afraid to tell his dad that he was gonna, you know, he's done with the Jackson 5 and he's just going to go full solo. He's scared to tell his dad so he pussies out and he does it on a live stage in front of everyone. So forces Joe's hand. And it's a classic scene where Joe is watching from the side stage like... And afterwards he's going up to Michael.
Starting point is 00:56:36 Michael, Michael, let's talk about it. Michael, let's talk. And he's like, just keeps walking. And then his body gut is like, it's over, Joe. It's over. I just, there's, there's this lifetime movie aspect to everyone's acting. You also mentioned something where, you know, Michael Jackson was such a unique personality to exist. So when you go from like him as a kid where like, you're in it, you know, it's a kid acting.
Starting point is 00:57:07 All of a sudden, like the first scene, like the first transition scene like from him being a kid to him being like, I guess, 15 or 16 or something like that. It like time jumps. And like the first thing you get from is just like, hey, you get the Michael Jackson voice. You get Jafar Jackson's Michael Jackson. It goes from him as a kid and then it jumps to him and he's in like some like executives office looking out the window and you just see him from the back. And he turns around with like a big smile and he's like, you guys are so right.
Starting point is 00:57:38 And it's very hard for me not to bust out laughing at that part because it was just like, it was so sudden. And Jafar Jackson, he did a good job in the movie I thought. Yeah. Like, oh yeah. Especially with the dancing? Dude, I think Jafar Jackson did a fantastic job. I think that the actor that played Joe Jackson did a fantastic job.
Starting point is 00:57:58 Like overall, it wasn't that the performances were bad. It was that the writing and everything was just so hokey. And it was like, I mean, honestly, with the script, the lines they were given, I don't really see how even with a great actor you could really make it not hokey. Yeah, it was written that way. It's probably produced and directed that way as well, of course. Yeah, they won it that way. And Jafar Jackson did a wonderful, like, very impressive dancing.
Starting point is 00:58:24 Very, like, he portrayed Michael Jackson very well. And it's just so aimless of a movie. Like, they really, they went hard in the paint. And I don't know, it's just like, they went hard in the paint with Joe Jackson, making that, like, the villain. He was great. He was, I think, the most solid. part of that movie. I wish they kind of
Starting point is 00:58:47 did more with the... I don't know. It just like in any biopic about a musician, there are a collection of scenes where you're starting it and you're like, okay, the musician starts playing the song and then you get like two, like a minute and a half
Starting point is 00:59:07 into it and you're like, oh, so they're just going to sing the whole song. All right. All right. Okay, this is this is a sing-along portion of the movie. They're like, oh, they did that so many. They did. It would be like, and I get it, man. They're hit songs. It's good music.
Starting point is 00:59:18 We all love to hear them. But like, watch it, like, you watch Far Jacks and start performing on stage. And it's, the way it is, it's like, oh, yeah, this is a great song. And it's like, oh, he's hitting those dance moves. And then you're about three and a half minutes into the song and you're like, doing the whole thing. All right. And then it ends and it's like, oh, encore. Okay, we're going to do a whole other song all the way through.
Starting point is 00:59:41 And at one point, it kind of felt like watching like a deal. DVD concert of like an artist where it's like another full song performance, which the thing is like watching Michael Jackson perform a full song. Yeah, I got no problem with that. But when you're watching Michael Jackson and pretend to be Michael Jackson, it doesn't really reach the same heights. No. And they just kept doing it. Imagine going to Hollywood Boulevard and sing the Michael Jackson there like perform. It's not going to it's not going to be this. I mean, I'm sure there's a bunch of people and I don't mean to get down. I'm sure. sure there's a lot of people who have hired a Michael Jackson impersonator for like either,
Starting point is 01:00:19 you know, an office party or maybe even just a regular old birthday party at home with the kids and the whole family to watch, you know, great, you know, mom's going, oh my God, look at him dance. He used to make me horny. All right. Take the cocktail out of her hand. They've had enough. But like, you know, it's like he did a great job dancing and, being Michael Jackson but it's not Michael Jackson so I don't want to see
Starting point is 01:00:50 not Michael Jackson performing it just like a six minute dance routine dude yeah like I did immediately followed by like a two minute scene and another six minute dance routine I'm like god damn dude we're doing it we're doing it wow the thing that was like fun about Rocket Man
Starting point is 01:01:06 because that's what the movie was called it was the fuck is his name why did I forget the guy that plays Elton John No, no, no, no, no. Elton John. Oh, Elton John. But that movie was set up more for like a fantastic, like it was a musical.
Starting point is 01:01:25 Like it was fantastical. Like, whenever one of his songs came on, it was a musical number. And the people in the environment started to dance. You're not just watching him sit at the piano and play Crocodile Man. Yeah, I know. Or Crocodile Rock. Oh, wait a second. Wait, did they have, no.
Starting point is 01:01:43 They kind of had this scene, you know, that. scene in every biopic movie where it's like, I gotta think of a hit. It's got to be the best thing I've ever written. And it's like, though like, it's pretty much a copy and paste scene of Peter Griffin coming up with a fake name for himself where he sees like some dude eating peas. He's like, pee, some girl crying tear. She's a Griffin fly through the way. Griffin, Peter Griffin. You know, it's like coming up with like. Did you come up with that by the way? No, that's an actual family guy joke. I was genius. Dude, it's one of the best family guide, Family Guide jokes I don't ever see.
Starting point is 01:02:14 But, yeah, there's definitely a lot of things like that. Overall, though, like a C movie for me. Maybe like a D plus. I enjoyed it more than I thought I was going to. I had a good time. I was not a good movie, but I did, I did enjoy it and I would, I, the next one's going to be even better.
Starting point is 01:02:35 I would see it again. Dude, the next one's going to be, dude, we'll make it a double feature. We'll see the first one before the second one. You know what's crazy? He's going to, like, in that next movie, it's just going to full on just be like, yep, you're going to be white this time, Jafar. It's going to fully just go off for it. Do you imagine them bringing McCulley Culkin in and just, like, de-aging him with AI technology?
Starting point is 01:02:55 He plays like eight-year-old McCullough. Hanging out with Michael. And I think I'm going to the hot air balloon. You know, people always, you know, people always, you know, Michael's not good at explaining himself. You know, when he says that he's a kid's sleep in the room, it's like, yeah. But, like, Michael Jackson's room is as big as most people's houses. It's like two stories. I mean, it's a bit...
Starting point is 01:03:14 I mean, he's just a 40-some-year-old guy hanging out with, like, single-digit kids. He didn't have a childhood. No, but what you don't understand, Ryan, he gave them the bed. He had a sleeping back. He slept on the floor. Sometimes I was sleeping the bed with the kids. I slept in the bed with all of them. I just, like, there's...
Starting point is 01:03:36 I don't know how they're going to do the sequel. I really don't. Yeah, if I were them... This seems like a, in my mind, it seems like executive seeing dollar signs. And then, you know, from the non-executive side, from the creative side, they'd be like, all right, we ended it on a high note. Let's go ahead. That's, yep, the Michael Jackson biopic and let's end it there.
Starting point is 01:03:59 And they're like, guys, we're going to keep going. It's like, you sure about, okay. Because the movie very intentionally feels like, it's like 1888, man, we're done. That's Michael Jackson. You know, it's like nothing else happens after this. Yep. It's almost the 90s. What a great place to go ahead and put a bookmark and just shut, shut the book there.
Starting point is 01:04:19 It's over, Joe. You lost. Michael. I wish they got a shot of like a drone shot going up of like him of Joe falling to his knees. No! Dude. And then it literally ended like the Avengers, but it was like, his story will continue on.
Starting point is 01:04:39 So it looks like they plan. that the story would continue on anyways. I guess so. See, I took that as like, it could just also be that inspirational, like, his story goes on. To this day, we all listen to Michael Jackson. We love Michael Jackson.
Starting point is 01:04:55 I remember I went and saw This Is It in theaters after he died. And that movie just kind of ends abruptly. Because, well, he was, he was about to do his big tour. He was about to do the This Is It tour. Yeah, and that was going to be like, big his comeback tour or his uh it was just a it was like the biggest tour he's ever done
Starting point is 01:05:17 though maybe like a combat but you know he's like he's older and he's going out again and the movie was supposed to like be documenting that process but then he died before that happened so the movie just kind of like they're like oh let's go ahead and put in theaters still I guess I think it was like what I heard what I read it was like the he was like rehearsing for this is it he went home had some milk. He had his milk. He had his milk and then his doctor came in, injected him with too much of... I can't remember what it was, but it was too much of it.
Starting point is 01:05:48 You know, Ryan, they say... He's fucking died. Too much of a good thing is a bad thing. And I know you love milk, so just remember that. Dude, we've all been in a situation where, let's say, you know, your friend gets a new present, like a new, let's say it's a soccer ball and you had then accidentally like kick it over the fence into the woods or like over into like a neighbor's house
Starting point is 01:06:12 you're like oh you know we've all had that moment like ah like imagine being the doctor like seeing his health start to decline and you're just like dude imagine being the doctor like he's like he starts it and he's like all right I'm just gonna go use the bathroom Michael I'll be right back
Starting point is 01:06:26 he just wax out just dry in his hands just oh blowing on trying to cool him off dude hit a fever Dude, but I cannot imagine Like, that must have been probably like In all of humanity ever
Starting point is 01:06:44 Probably the biggest moment of panic Of any human could ever experience Like seeing Michael Jack you're like Michael Oh shit Well that in the first time Well If you remember Jesus went up to the cross Seeing that there was another guy
Starting point is 01:07:00 They thought was Jesus Yeah He didn't die for anyone's sins He just Yeah Yeah. Oops. Michael Jackson's milk referred to Prophefol.
Starting point is 01:07:12 A powerful surgical anesthetic. He used this nickname because the drug is a white, milky, oily, emulsion. It was used as a sleep aid and was the primary drug that caused his death in 2009. Propheaval is a fast-acting sedative used to induce and maintain anesthesia. It's an anesthetic used during surgery. No, no. Diluted with lytocaine.
Starting point is 01:07:34 Oh, come on. Come on. That's just. just malarkey. Sounds like a word he'd use. Malarkey? Yeah. What do you think Joe got it from?
Starting point is 01:07:42 Joe was always hanging out with Michael. Joe, if you ever run for president, you should use the word malarkey. That's good. That's my incredible Joe Biden impression right there. I've been working on it right? It sounds good. And I couldn't think of a better way to end the podcast than your Joe Biden. Joe Biden.
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Starting point is 01:08:15 you can get your name in every episode of the podcast. And you get an extra chunk of this podcast. So there's plenty more where this came from. We're going to be sure to talk about Michael Jackson some more in the Super Mega Junior episode, which those tend to actually, and I'm not just saying this as like a marketing thing. The Super Mega Juniors tend to be just so fucking,
Starting point is 01:08:36 just on it and funny. It's because we're all warmed up. We've warmed up for about an hour. I wish that was the main episode. Oh, there are definitely a lot of parts in the members where I'm like, fuck. I wish that was out there for everyone to hear.
Starting point is 01:08:49 But we're greedy capitalists, so only those who pay can hear it. We love you. And, uh, he he, and, but do do do do do little do little to do little do not
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