supermegashow - How The Sopranos Should Have Ended | supermegashow - 083

Episode Date: October 8, 2025

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Will I Am. Dude, imagine if Will I Am came out with I Will instead of Danny Brown. I would love that. No, I imagine a black eyed piece came out with that. Dude, back in there, let's get it started in here days.

Well, a little earlier than let's get it started. Well. The original version. Yes. That's no. That I remember. It's like, it's like you,

it's interesting to be alive for historical event. because I was like there the moment it got taken down. Not like I saw it got taken down, but like I remember kind of like within a week period of like looking up the song. Yeah, it's gone. And like playing it around the office.

Because you were like, wait, what? Oh, wait, why did? Yeah, they don't play this version on the radio or anything. We're going to bring it back. We're putting it back on streaming services. The original let's get it started. Yeah, I will host it up X. let's uh

get in here comedy is back it's illegal again I remember like an echoey cough dude maybe just a few like you know

America's back What are you doing? Why are you reaching in your pants? Are you touching your gonads? Matt has no mic in his hand. I mean, you're obligated during the podcast to have a microphone in your hand, but your hands in your pants. In fact, probably from your forearm... Ryan, I eat stuck.

My arm is stuck. I need help. Look, I feel like if I keep helping you out of these. situations you're never going to learn to get out of them yourself this is a learning lesson yeah it's really stuck dude luke cut to the commercial there we go oh nothing like a little commercial break can't fix how you doing today matthew watson i'm doing all right man actually no i'm doing you got some good sleep you told me i think so you said i feel so rested and restful and i feel positive like i can take the day on it's you said i feel like i can i can i can i can i can

can blow someone's brains out you're so confident is what you told me well it's a metaphor um in the middle of time square you said i will i just i'm just playing around then you said my fans did still support me i could blow someone's brains out in time square you said and the megheads will have my back yeah dude i mean just because i joke about something off camera doesn't mean you have to go and blab about it to the this blabbing it's a podcast we talk we're i'm i'm I'm just talking. Well, I'm just listening because when you speak, Ryan, I sit my white ass down and I listen. I'm happy. I'm glad that you do. And I learn. And you learn. I do learn. Well,

what was the last thing you learned from me on the podcast? I don't think, I ain't no teacher. That's not true. But it warms my heart to hear that you learn stuff from me. So I'm interested. You are a teacher, dude. You're full of wisdom, you know? Wisdom, power, and love. Wisdom power. Oh, okay. Our God is an awesome God.

Hey. I didn't say it. I was thinking Imagine by John Lennon for a second. I was like, wisdom power and love. Imagine there's no heaven. It's easy if you try. Brotherhood of men. Still do.

Every time I hear Imagine. by John Lennon, I think of Mark Ruffalo sing his little bit for the fucking the imagined video the celebrities did during COVID. Well, Brotherhood of man. Well, Mark Ruffalo, it's, I mean, he holds the secret, you know?

The secret to success. He was also, like, in my opinion, he was the glue that held that whole video together. Without Mark Ruffalo. The Incredible Hulk movie? Because that was Ed Norton in that. No, the imagined video that all the celebrities made singing during

COVID, if he wasn't in that, that would have been the huge cringe fest. But because he was in it, it kind of tied it all together and it was inspirational. And Galcadot. Oh, absolutely. She organized it, right? Wonder Woman. The Wonder Woman. She's awesome. What is that? Stop, man. You're getting me excited for a conversation and then nothing happens. Stop, dude Don't make those gestures Like you're about to like go into a fun conversation And then say nothing

Okay Go ahead Well, I was just gonna talk about Because we brought up, you know, Wonder Woman Have you seen Wonder Woman too? Starring Pedro Pascal As Wonder Woman? No, no, no.

He shaved his mustache for that role And he's on record saying And I want to get your opinion on this because I think it's an interesting quote. He said that he will no longer shave because he doesn't like the way he looked in that movie. Really? Yeah. Pedro Pascal, the world's sexiest man. I'll tell you something, man.

I cannot imagine him without a mustache. It just goes to show that. Does it look weird? Even the sexiest of men can be down sometimes. yeah they can they can be down for some uh some fun stuff if you catch my drift sex yeah i got that yeah i got that yeah okay i just i wasn't sure if you if you if you if it was clocking to you no i i it was clocking to me okay but pedro pascal you know pascal pascal pascal he uh we're this we're if we mispronounce it it's not a racist dog whistle

it's not like an intentional racist dog whistle so Pedro Pascal Pascol so this guy is uh you know where I first saw him was uh narcos yep my first saw him in Game of Thrones no I thought because didn't you come to like Aaron's place to like when we watched a Game of Thrones yeah I yeah I sat in the other room by myself but like he wasn't in those later seasons but Yeah, I remember like Because he wins in a rock off with Satan He wins

A spoil, do you fucking spoil it? I'm sorry for anyone who hasn't watched a game of He plays in a rock up You said he wins I'm sorry for anyone who hasn't seen Game of Thrones This guy right here I didn't mean to spoil the fact

That Pedro Pascal's character Beets Satan in a rock off And and gets ownership of hell And becomes the new devil And gets a soul back, right? Yep And a new guitar made of gold

do you think that would have been a better ending like people would have been happier with that one for wonder woman too no for fucking Game of Thrones oh for game of throes there's at least then it would have been like even more kind of like huh they did their thing

it would have been historic yeah for for someone to woof like woof it that intentionally you know what I mean like imagine if like all these like you got to think of like all these actors reputations the directors the showrunners and then all the people's jobs on the line like that work on set it's like they all just agree it's like yeah we're woof in this yeah we're we're creating bullshit i would love to see someone do that we've talked about it on the podcast before like if we ever made uh a movie

just have it end in like a stupid way we're like the movie would be famous then because it's like have you seen this movie? Because it's like, you know, it's really good for like the first three quarters. And then all of a sudden it, I don't know, you just got to watch it. It really, yeah, it feels like two different movies. I'm just imagining like the directors.

It's like, guys, Mr. R.R. Martin, he just wrote the finale. The script is here. And they get it and they're like, okay. He references his, Pedro Pascal's character, but like now in the book, in parentheses, it goes, looks similar to Pedro Pascal to make sure that it's solidified, that he looks like Pedro as well. But in the Game of Thrones universe, a portal opens up and one of the characters sees into our universe for a moment and sees Pedro Pascal, so that way it's canon that they know what he looks like in that universe, you know?

Then it makes sense. God, honestly, dude, if George R, R, R, R, R, it's three R. George R.R.R.R. Martin. Yeah. If I think he could do something incredible and he could stick it to all his annoying little fans and he could just woof it. He could just write the most bullshit ending, but it's canon because it came from him and it's a part of the like, like canonical series. I think that would, that would earn a little bit of respect back. Because it just sucks that he's probably not going to finish this beloved long-lasting series for a large portion of like the fantasy fan base.

So at least give them a bullshit ending that they can laugh and maybe have some sort of can you believe that happened, you know? I mean, it would go down in history. Like everyone would, you know, kind of like with the Sopranos ending, it'd be one of those things where everyone, you know, 20 years later, 30 years later is still talking about it. Everyone remembers when you... Okay. Can I pitch you another Sopranos ending? Yeah. Tell me what you think instead.

Okay. Okay. So they're at the diner. He goes and uses the restroom. Onion rings? Sure. Yeah, yeah. He goes and uses the restroom a quick.

He comes back out. He slips on a banana peel, mid-slip cut to black. Last thing you... Like, the, the, whoop sound is like as it's cutting to black. Yeah. It cuts the whoop. It cuts the whoop. off.

Like, what? That would be fucking incredible. Sopranos spoilers, by the way. Holy shit, man. I'll tell you. People were not happy. Well, some people were not happy with the way Sopranos ended.

I fucking loved it. I know how it ends, but I've never seen the series. I knew how it ended before I started the show, too, because I saw it on YouTube. Just a famous ending. It's very famous. Luke, I am your father or whatever the fuck.

That's not the end. actual quote or whatever you know uh i think he says luke no he says no i am your father yeah yeah um to his son a j uh it's it's a great ending though it's son a j yeah that's his name in the show it's star wait what in soprano yeah okay okay okay dude i need to rewatch sopranos that show is fantastic i uh i watch the whole thing in about three weeks dude talk Tucker, I told Tucker, I was like, dude, you got to watch Sopranos. And he's like, okay. Up into the last episode.

Yeah, he started watching Sopranos and he binged it. He's like, I love this. And he watched everything up into the last episode. And then he was saving it because he wanted to, I don't remember why. It was like his laptop wasn't working well or something. And he wanted to like wait until he could watch it on TV and just forgot and never watched it. So he watched the whole series up to the final episode. and then just king yeah i've had some that's some king shit that was bad as darwin though with the

curse that's honestly the worst watching the finale first dude i don't yeah that's insane that's what he gets for watching it illegally or was it like watching the first episode and then the finale no you watched the finale is the first episode we told we told uh our social media boy darwin well not watch the show he didn't i mean you should still but like it just kind of take so much out of it. We kept telling him like he would like it. We're like, dude, you got to watch the curse. Because he had never seen Nathan for you. He watched that and was like, this is amazing. And then he watched the rehearsal and he was like, this is awesome. And we were like, you got to watch the curse. So this is what he gets though for illegally, like not supporting

the show. He went on some like website to watch it illegally. And the numbag. I know. And the problem was, I think it was numbered. So it's like zero. I don't remember what it was, but basically they were misnumbered or something. He clicked the finale thinking it was the first episode of the series and watched the whole thing and was so confused. And then he started the first episode after that and was like, what? He's going on. And then after like the first episode, so he watched the finale, even the first, he texted me, he was like, this is like, this is like. And then he was, when he realized.

And honestly, he should still watch the whole show, but. with that show specifically if you watch the finale first it's it just because the fact that it's a show like if it was a movie because movies only two and a half hours like if you had the twist of a movie spoiled for you that I feel like that's fine like it's you're not putting in that much time it's two and a half hours at most probably but for a show it's a buildup it's a buildup it's a long fucking how many is it like seven eight episodes 10 episodes yeah it's 10 episode buildup each episodes ranging from like 30 to 50 something minutes so it's like there's a lot of time invested into that so it's like if you have the twist or the big moment happen and like I can't say anything

because I don't want to spoil anything but it's just like it's it's I don't know even saying there's a twist kind of spoils and I feel bad not even a twist it's I wouldn't even call it a twist My thing about the curse is I'll just say I've never ever seen a show or film or a piece of media that did what this did. I would say that it's just kind of like. And it's worth watching. I wouldn't go into it being like expecting a twist or anything like that because I view the finale. More is kind of like, you know in a movie how you can tell like there's this 20-minute segment where most of the budget went to?

It's like you can tell the finale like most of the budget went to the finale. At least that there's, that's how I feel like, no, like I feel like, I feel like half of the budget went to the finale. Well, another, I feel like. And I like the grandioseness of like, oh, you're building up to like this, this, they're, There is a payoff. The finale is a payoff. And it's, I was, dude, that's, you know how, like, when you show a friend, a show or a movie,

and you know, but there's, like, a big part coming up, and you're just, like, kind of, like, I don't know if you do this, but for me, I'm like, I'm, I'm getting excited because I'm like, what's the reaction? I can't wait to arise. When we watched the finale together, I was just like, ooh-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo. And then I remember you were just like, what the fuck? Dude, I went deep down into kind of, like, interpretations of it. and all that just because like I was interested the because upon first watch like you know the

the themes of the show are there and have carried through from beginning to end um but it's it's I don't want to even have a spoiler section of this podcast so like I it's hard to it feels wrong to spoil that show yeah I don't it I want to I want to be careful in talking about it anymore because we've already, like, built it up. Yeah, I don't want to build it up. It's like, guys, there's a big twist. Yeah. I mean, obviously, it's the finale of a show.

Something happens, but, uh, it's a, it's a very, very interesting finale and for an interesting, it's not your atypical finale to a show that you would just think. Like, I, it's, I don't want to say anymore. I, all I would say is, uh, if you like Nathan Fielder, or. or the Safty brothers. I would say if you, if you're looking for something to watch, just try,

just go watch the curse. It's on, it's showtime, so I don't know if it's on like Paramount Plus or, I think Amazon, if you have a prime membership, you can watch it. I'm not sure.

The pacing, I'm not going to say, it's weird. Yeah. It's not like, when I, when that show came out, I was expecting a more like,

I guess traditional, pacing or whatever in cinematography and it's it's across the board it's weird uh and it's very like off putting and makes you feel very anxious it's its own thing yeah like i can't say like you know there's a lot of uh crime shows out there numbers criminal minds law and order above cssi all that stuff like i can't really put this in a category of show it's like its own like thing hey and the main pirate from captain phillips is in it yes he is the one that says look at me i am the captain now i love to see that he's like still in shit too and stuff that like we're still watching yeah just like stuff that's thrown onto like i'm sure

he's like a c s i spin off yeah yeah yeah stuff that we wouldn't see other than like seeing like it brought up on social media he's like he's still working look it's like he's actually in the media that we still consume well it's funny there's it's kind of this full circle moment because on nathan for you there's a moment where he do you remember on nathan for you and i think the first season there was the security guard who was like obsessed with large breasts. Yes. So they tried to make a reality show. Is it a show Patis in that episode?

Yeah, she is in that episode. But Nathan tries to make like a reality show about his obsession with breasts. And they go and they pitch the pilot to like executives. And Nathan tells him to like do some small talk about the industry to get like to show the executive that like he knows stuff. And the fact that he says in like the board room meeting was like, you know, actually the pirate from Captain Phillips. after the movie, he couldn't get any more acting roles. So he just went back to drive. He's just driving taxis now.

And he's like, interesting. So it's kind of funny, full circle that they talk about that in eighth of view. And then in The Curse, he, see that he gave him another actor. Because the guy, because the guy likes acting. Yeah, he's great, too. He talks about it, too. Like, he, he's in good time. He has, most of the interviews that I've seen of him was when he got,

because whenever Captain Phillips came out, a lot of, people had their eyes on him because it's like who is this he wasn't an actor no he was um wasn't he just like some guy they found like i don't remember but like i thought he was a local right yeah i think so and he wasn't an actor but he he did a really good job they did a large casting call of locals maybe i'm getting the story wrong but i could he either was like he either was literally like freshly plucked from somalia or he was living in new york city driving taxis or something and they found I don't know how they found him but then

after that I know that the Safdi brothers used he was in good time remember he played a security guard during the carnival part and then they pour like an entire bottle of LSD down his throat and he's like freaking the fuck out when I saw that scene I was like fuck dude

dude I hate that scene because like that would fry your brain forever and and like they don't know what's going on with him and they're like strapping him down and I hate that But that's probably why they got him for the curse Because he was in a good time

Which is a fantastic movie Okay, so You know, like me I got some truths mixed in With some non-truths So they did have a large casting call But it was held in

Minneapolis, Ohio and San Diego There were like 700 can't Like it was a huge fucking casting but they were intentionally like they sought authentic Somali Americans for the roles and the final four were chosen for their natural ability and ability to perform well as a group so like they were specifically like wanting to cast Somali Americans or like people like they weren't you know it's not just uh they need a they have a Chinese character and a script and so they go through a casting call of Chinese Korean you know like it's

it's it's they want very intentionally when well also um not to the extent of getting locals yeah but well Minneapolis if I'm not mistaken I feel like I remember learning at one point that Minneapolis has like a really large population of Somali immigrants uh or some some city in that region of the country has like a really big Somali population uh so that probably would be why they did the casting call there uh but captain Phillips? Great movie. Sorry of my head I went back to like yeah casting call like in Somalia.

Like they're like Pirates come on a lady. Hey pirates We're looking for pirates. I mean if you're a real pirate that's all right but for this it's fake. You're not actually going to be robbing a cargo ship. It's crazy there's still pirates out there. Yeah.

But you know they're not they're not peg legs. They're not yo-ho. They don't have like parrots or monkeys and stuff. They have fucking motorboats and machine guns and tank tops and it's not cool. They should at least play loud classic pirate music from a megaphone or

something as they're rolling up. Like imagine Captain Phillips when like he sees them approaching and like they come over the radio. Like you can just hear like in the background just like you they're playing like the Pirates of the Caribbean theme theme of the black pearl like I wish Somalian pirates would at least just play into it and just at least dress up yeah like when they're

going to fucking like rob an age ship or something it's like put on an eye patch you know put on the hat I don't care like you could still have your machine guns and you know do whatever you got to do but like I don't know just play the part put a fake parrot on your shoulders think of the changes in marketing that would do for them

you know like you know people view them as as villains because they're in these motorboats with machine guns, AK-47-looking things. That's scary. What they need to do is maybe have, like, a big blunderbuss, and they're, you know, they're putting, like, forks and, and, like, dirt and gravel and a bunch of other bullshit. Like, old classic pirate shit. Just clanging off the side of the cargo ship.

And, like, you know, they got... You have cannon balls. Dude, that would be awesome. I mean, just, thunk! On the side of, like, a modern... vessel. Could you even like, if you shot a cannon at a at a cargo ship, what did that even fucking? No, go, boom. Yeah. Like, that would be cool, dude, honestly. I mean, aim for the deck. That's true. And don't, come on, guys, don't aim for the deck. Listeners, I know you

might partake in some piracy on the high seas. So, uh, off the, uh, horn of Africa. So don't do, don't do that. But that would be so cool if they played into it. Like, a A flintlock pistol? Ooh. Fuck to AK-47. They're wearing like beautiful red and like gold-tasseled shit. Yeah, dude. The big old hat.

And imagine. With a feather the size of your head? Exactly. Exactly. Two of your heads. Stacked on top of each other. That's how big the feather would be. That's a big fucking feather.

Like Captain Hook and Peter Pan. Imagine, uh, you know, they got the fucking muskets. So like, they're trying to shoot at the ship to make them stop. Because then Captain Phillips, they're pulling up going, pop, blah, blah, but they got to do the thing with, like, they pour the powder into the barrel and then, like, all that shit. They get a harpoon gun and they have to, like, swing from, and they, well, they have to, like, crank this giant hole up, launch a harpoon so then they can swing from it to the, to the deck. And they're holding, like, what are those, not cemitars? What are those swords called? Like, Arabian swords?

The one that's curved? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, they have, like, semitars and stuff. of honestly man like if there's any Somali pirates listening take note because I'll be honest too if I was a like the you show up in the news more often yeah and if I was the pirate if I was the captain of like a Maersk you know cargo ship if I see a motorboat coming up with modern pirates I'm gonna I'm gonna be like oh no these guys are gonna kill me I'm scared but if I see them rolling up and I pull out my my binoculars and I look and they're dressed up

like pirates? Well, let's hear them out. I'd be like, guys, let's parlay with them. Hold on. Parlay? Let them up. Let them up because this is interesting. This is, they're not going to harm us dressed like this. Yeah. So, that's our advice to any pirates out there. And speaking of pirates, here's some ad reads. It's Trixie and Katty. You're from The Bald and the Beautiful and we have to talk to you, but Audible. If you know anything about us, we are certified romanceopaths. Rose sniffing swoon lords. Soft-spoken sirens of sentiment. Devotees of drama-drenched desire. As you can tell, we've been listening to Audible's romance

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Fucking, like, this is crazy. That, from over here, I didn't even hear it in high quality, and that upset me. I just think that we have such high quality equipment that we should be using it to the advantage of capturing high quality sound

that's other than just our voices you know no i i actually i i agree with you i actually take back what i said about that bothering me because you know we get better ones of these too of the mic flags yeah absolutely why you take it off if you want can they be like can they be like the news broadcaster ones where sometimes they're like puffy and foam puffy and foam don't they have someone's that are like made out of foam where it's not like wood oh oh you mean where it's kind um I know what you mean. It's not foam in the way I'm thinking of foam.

It's like the outside's smooth, right? Squishy, almost like a stress ball. Yeah. I know what you're talking about. Yeah. Yeah, we can probably get those made. Do you want to take these off? Because you know what I noticed?

Every day we record the podcast, always later in the day I notice, I have a huge red mark on my knuckle. Look, see? You see that? Because it's just sharp. It is. Yeah, I'm taking it off. Goodbye. Look how freeing this is.

I like this. Shit, dude, this feels so much better. We felt like, honestly, may I just say, we just took the boxes, the super mega boxes off, what are they called? They're called mic flags. So for audio listeners, you know, like news microphones, how they have underneath the part where you speak into the mic, they have the box that has like the logo of the news station or whatever. We have those with our logo on it. But they're very sharp around the edges. Very sharp.

Like, I have red marks on my finger and it hurts. It chafes me And this feels fucking free Dude these mics also Like having this much room Just a hole Like to squeeze this much of the shaft It's fucking awesome

No Ryan put the pop No Put that back on Make me pussy Actually you know I'll take my pop filter off too Get fucked No more pussy

Pop filter for me Motherfucker So You want to talk about some Shit Okay That's Dude, look at the wave, look at the waveforms.

Y'all, that, y'all are hurting our ears. I'm not watching this anymore. Fuck. Have you thought maybe the views are lower just because we keep, over time, over time, just every time we do some heinous shit on this show, three, four, five people go,

I'm done with this show. And then over time it just adds up. Yeah, but I think it's more, uh, more has to do with our opinions of the European Union, which we should, well, we'll get into that in the, uh, in the after show. Do you, I, I can't get over how good this feels to like hold the no, like, without my like my skin kind of being like scratched slightly. Just having this much space to like grip. It's like, um, it would be like if you're, if your penis was suddenly extended by like two or three inches and then you, you held it in your hand for the first.

time right that would feel amazing yes so it's kind of like that um we're less than a week out from ghost of joseph i get the name wrong it's yote yote i don't know why i keep saying joseph joseph yote what's up dude ghost of yote yote the reviews have come in and you're not reading them no well i read them so let me tell you all about it so basically what if i just started going off like all the real actual facts just like the all the plot points uh the only thing i've heard is like it is a very safe sequel which i don't i don't mind if it's more of something that i enjoyed but we'll see i i have to i have to play it but they weren't saying it they were saying it as kind of like a positive and negative do you like uh do you prefer um

I guess in sequels, or it doesn't have to be sequels, but do you prefer a safe thing versus a risky thing? Like the curse, for example, very risky. That was not a safe way to end a show. And I don't even know how they pitched that to the network, because that is such a not safe way to end to show. I definitely, I think definitely risk because that promotes innovation and you always want to see innovation and the stuff that you like consume or enjoy. At least, I do. But it is risky, though, because it can be... I agree.

I like risk more than the safe, you know, bets, but I sometimes risk suck, too. Yeah. Like, sometimes they just fall flat. But whatever. What's an example of when that's happened? I'm trying to think. For me, there was this movie that, and like, I'm not saying it's awful, but there was this movie that came out.

It was a comedy. It was about, like, the turn of the century and electronics and the, you know, the year 2000. Y2K? Y2K. Yeah, it was about Y2K and a virus. I wanted to see that. I started killing people. And like for me that like, it was, it works better as a, uh, S&L fake trailer than it does an actual

movie. Like I, I, I enjoy the fact, I enjoy a lot of the people in it. And I enjoy the fact, and I like the fact that movies like that exist, just for me, it fell flat and I didn't enjoy it. Um, but yeah, that's, it has Kyle Moon. in it as well Yeah, I like him And he's funny

It has I can't remember the actor's name He's from It He plays The main kid in It Yeah, I know who you're talking about And then they have I'm so bad

With like the new generation Of actors name The one who played Snow White In the bad Disney Live action Where they made like a bunch of Dwarve CG characters Little monstrosities

I They made minions out of, out of, out of, out of dwarves. The overusage of, of CG is, it really pisses me off. And let me get back to this real quick. Uh, I think for me, a movie that took a risk that I did not like at the time, maybe I'd have to rewatch it now, would be, uh, tin cloverfield lane. Well, that one, because you start reading the backstory of it, and you see that they did

make concessions with the original, um, Plot. Yeah, the script. They bought the script. And just the original vision. And they screwed the end. J.J. Abrams went, like aliens.

I don't know. J.J. Abrams literally was like, oh, he bought this incredible script. The original script is so much better. The ending is like great. Like, the ending's great. And he took the great ending and went, actually no. We're going to, uh, aliens. It's not even like a restructuring of the ending.

It is just like all, alternate ending what if this movie i love back when movies had alternate endings where it's like y'all didn't like solidify like a wrapping up point for this like y'all shot multiple endings oh on like DVD yeah you get like the budget they have like with an alternate ending yeah it's like most of the time alternate endings though were kind of like uh shitty marvel type endings where it's just like a little gag at the end or something like that but i did the idea of it's funny I think that one of the things that upsets me the most about like modern movies is the overuse of CG when it like for things that don't need to be CG and they do it because it's cheaper I guess

which in my mind is kind of crazy because I feel like like maybe it is really cheap I don't know but there's a lot of stuff that you can always tell when something CG like yeah we're still in 2025 with how good everything is we're still not quite there where unless it's for like a movie with an insane budget you could still tell something CG even though even if it looked good.

People took the time with pre-production to like plan out things and the like the lot I think of like you know it has not it's aged kind of all right but like I think of Peter Jackson in the early Lord of the Rings or Spielberg with

um Jurassic Pops Park in the 90s where they were implementing CGI to kind of uplift the practical effects that were used, which is always and I think a lot of people, you probably agree, is like the best way of CGI to be used. It shouldn't be used

as like an excuse to not support artisans and like have pre-production time because now movies need to be made quick and fast. And it's cheap. It's cheaper. It's like oh, instead of having to do some hard shit on set with some practical stuff or whatever we'll just have a these guys just make it figure it out in post yeah and you know it can look really good but you could still tell it's

CG and uh that always takes me out of it um there's this like Netflix has this on like all of their content there's this like digital glossy cleanliness to this new age of like film I don't know if I can't really explain it other than that, like, I can tell when a Netflix show is a Netflix show because it's this, like, faux realism where most of the time they are filming on these either blue screens or these new kind of LCD screens, which are interesting technology.

And by the way, when I was looking for sets to book for our last sketch, did I have one of them? No, I found a studio that has that, though. Oh, that's cool. Yeah. I mean, like stuff like that is cool, But, like, it adds to this, like, overall... I remember going, like, behind the scenes and extras on DVDs

and seeing, like, these people had to travel to some location and film on location, and it was, like, people are getting sunburnt. People are running around, like, getting, like, getting tired, like, being on set, depending on, like, you know, sometimes it was, like, in a desert location. Sometimes they're filming in the fucking cold, and everyone's freezing. But not to say that people... need to suffer, but there was this kind of like environmental age, this, this environmental

aspect to filming on location that's lost a lot these days to where it just feels, you can feel the fakeness through the screen. Yeah, and I don't want to sound like a, like a film bro or like a, like a, I guess it's like there's something about when they go out and do that. it's almost like you there's a sense of appreciation for like the art of it more right where it's like like Lord of the Rings for example

they went out and they shot that shit like in New Zealand like I forgot which character maybe it was Orlando Bloom but like he had to be in a fucking like rapid river like almost drowned and I feel like nowadays like they're not going to actually go out to New Zealand to go shoot

this stuff it's going to be on a soundstand stage on with like a blue screen like what they did for the hobbit it's like it would still look really good it's the production differences between lord of the rings and the hobbit right whereas like lord of the rings had all like a lot of practical but mixed with cgai to up like lift it up and i and i get it there there's obviously in movies there's a lot of stuff that you just can't do without cg i you know it's like there's a lot of stuff where it's like there's no way to do it practically the thousands of orc soldiers all being cg i in the original lord of the rings like that that like of course you're not going to get like a hundred

thousand extras to stampede like that's just a hazard i actually watched it behind the scenes of how they did that and it was really insane were they mix real with yeah no how they the orc stuff i saw behind the scenes of how they did it and it was create like an a i type of thing where like they were like they were it's like it was like a simulation where they didn't have to individually animate each orc in a sense like running type of thing i don't remember i just remember seeing them basically like creating these groups and then like duplicate it I don't know

it's been a while I just remember seeing it because we had the DVDs it's got to pop up on my YouTube recommended now heard you talking about this on the podcast Ryan I love when the algorithm throws me some bullshit that's like I told you recently you threw me Leroy Jenkins dude that's awesome it's still on my

recommendations I need to watch it to get it off my recommended algorithm is one of the most insane fucking things ever and I love it I'll get recommended I'll live stream with two viewers

and sometimes I'll jump in like on the Super Mega account and just like go and chat and be like what's up and they'll be like what the hell and then I'll see a check yeah

it's fun but yeah it's a CG is a great tool I just hate when it's overused to cut corners

where I feel like it just kind of removes some of the some of the magic. I don't want to, yeah. Because like what I was what I was gonna say to kind of like backtrack just a little bit

for me the why I think why I personally find going on location and stuff magical is because it's what we did as kids with our little video cameras with our friends.

We went out into the woods. It's that just taken up to the nth degree. Yes, you know. That's a great way to put it. That's the, that's where it's like there's this like nostalgic magic that I find and like, oh, you can like go out with a big budget and get this stuff done. There's something that's fun and adventurous about it.

And I know that like, I guess on a, this is us speaking from our own like having fun making things. And I guess on a corporate scale, it's different. But at the same time, it is, there are people on all these movies that do have passion and do actually care about it. um you know like even movies that are you know pretty corporate corporately like funneled down into the final project it mostly comes down to the big wigs yeah i feel like there are always still people that really do genuinely care about what they're making and they want it to be as good as

possible which is heartbreaking because so many like artisan jobs in filmmaking are now kind of like getting left behind right like i think there's a there's this thing where it's like Hollywood doesn't have too many good wigs anymore like there's no good like there's not as many like artists and like wig makers and stuff like that

I guess I guess that's funny because it's like the necessity has gone down because of CG probably and back in I don't know the 90s or early 2000s they weren't going to

see any one's hair so they had to just the wig's actors had in like like early like I think like for me I'm I'm instantly of course thinking of oh I can't remember the director's name but it's the um Brad Pitt and Gary Oldman uh Dracula movie where it's like they like Dracula has this very ornate get up there's a there's a Brad Pitt Gary Oldman Dracula movie or maybe hold up maybe I don't know if Brad Pitt's in it but Gary hold up let me Gary Book of Eli were Brad Pitt's blind dude that that

twist at the end of Book of Eli. I watched that at my friend Christian's house in like eighth grade. But like Gary Oldman in this type of shit. Yeah, dude, I love that hairstyle. You know? I told you. That's fucking like, that's a good wig, dude.

I really want to do a short film with you. I told you where it's like the, with the facial prosthetics that kind of look like the max headroom shit. And I want like the hair to be crazy and like the facial features the idea, but all practical. And hair like that. That's fucking awesome.

I would just like character to have hair like that. Absolutely. there's just so many interesting and not to say that like I mean there are this is not a conversation about there's nothing interesting being released we just had a whole conversation about the curse which came out this year there's tons of great stuff still being made I guess I'm saying more from um I'm speaking more from a like a fan of watching stuff yeah and of movies and from a big budget corporate standpoint right because like for the movie studios like the big ones I watched Wonka recently I still haven't seen it I will get into this and my, it's actually Wonka's the reason I kind of thought of this in the first place

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Yeah, it's time to get wonkid. You promised the people that after ads, if we had any, if we had any, I meant. We might not have. Might have been no money for us. You were going to talk about, Not Paddington, although it is the same director. Wonka. Yeah.

So when I first saw the news... Take it back to like when you were a kid. Give people context. Okay. When I was a young lad, I watched... Willie Wonka in the chocolate factory was the original. And then Charlie in the chocolate factory was the Johnny Depp. Okay.

Willie Wonka in the Chocolate Factory. I watched that a lot as a kid. kid love that movie very nostalgic with jean simmons yep that would have been awesome that would be fucking awesome uh but yeah uh i loved that movie very special place in my heart the song pure imagination still to this day is one of those songs that when i hear it just you get elated i do get elated it's like such a warm like ah word of the week by the way, elated. Mm-hmm.

The definition's right there. Yeah, but... I mean, it makes it easier for us. Exactly. We don't have to look shit up. Thank you, Luke. But then I read the book by Rald Dahl. The book's great.

More like rude, doll. Come, Ryan. Come on, man. You got to stop with that. You got to stop. stop with that. I'm so serious, dude. I'm so, I'm just disappointed.

Where the sidewalk bends over. That's Shell Silverstein. By the way, I know you're gonna say he looks creepy. He does look terrifying, dude. You always have to be like, that creepy bitch. No, there's nothing creepy. Like, he's not a creep by, I love Shell Silverstein. He was an incredible human being.

But the pictures of him, like, on the back of his book, like, just Luke put it up. It's just kind of scary. I will say he does look like a, like a, kind of like a, I would, like a 40s Russian scientist. You know, I could, he has that vibe, I guess. But instead, he just wrote whimsical poetry. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, but I read the, I read the, I read the, uh, Willy Wonka at the Chocolate Factory. The book, fantastic book.

And then Charlie and the Chocolate Factory came out when I was a boy. I saw that in theaters. I loved it. Made me uncomfortable. Really? Yeah. Why? Because the Willy Wonka in that movie, to me, when I was watching it.

No, he was just kind of like, I know that there's a shared similarity between the Wonka's having like ulterior motives and kind of like acting weird. But there was a difference where like in the original, the betrayal of Willy Wonka, there was a, there was still like a warmness and fun. like this was a real person like even when he got angry it was scary because it felt like your dad or uncle or someone of a authority figure that it's like oh this person

who I thought was nice is like this is weird because he's sweet yeah he's warm and sweet but then when he's angry you're not gonna like him when he's angry no but then in like with in Charlie in the Chocolate Factory

my vibes as a kid I guess of the betrayal was just like it just seemed like this there was something something truly mentally unwell about, like, this man. It, dude, that's, I couldn't say it any better. Like, in a weird way.

Like, yes, in the original, he is, like, crazy and coo-coo. He's coo-y. But, like, yeah, there's still this warmness. He's, he's struggling with a mental illness. It's like, if I took my kid to that factory, my hands would be on their shoulders. And they would be, like, with me next to me at all times. He was like, we'll go there slow, we'll walk, we'll see. I mean, bro, he had, he basically had, like,

kind of like the berries and cream haircut. Like, it's like any grown man with that haircut, I'm sorry. But, like, it just, like, it, I'd have to do research. Because I don't know if this was, like, the person who wrote it and Tim Burton as director, like, kind of envisioned Wonka in this way, or they just let Johnny Depp do his pirates, like, work his magic like he did with, um, Jack Sparrow

Because like he Cisorhands Yeah it's like These character He creates characters And it is a character I will say I guess like the best vibe

I could He reminds me of In that movie He reminds me of a guy That would have been in like a Like a scene Band in like 2010 that has a lot of allegations

Yeah Like and you're not surprised by it It's it's also Because it's like It gives off slight Oh what's his name let me figure out let me let me find the actor real quick he's in back to the future i just watched that the other night and he was also in this movie jamie fox no no no he was in this

movie where he like controls rats crispin glover yeah i love like that me too but he gives off crispin glover energy and particularly particularly crispin glover in in like kind of like his facetiousness and like maybe in some ways deservedly so but his facetiousness when talking about, like, the back to the future and stuff like that. Um, because he doesn't have decent memories because he kind of got, oh, he kind of, he did, he got fucked over because if, I don't know what. I haven't seen him talk about back to the future. I just I've seen him performing back to the future. Well, he wasn't in two. Oh, he wasn't. No. I, I actually was about to watch the sequel. Did a model of his face. Oh. Like printed it out and put it over

another actor. What? And used his likeness. So like he does have like, um, um, he does. Um, um, um he does have probable cause for uh being pissed but like you know how like when people are mad about something they'll have like this like no but it's good like vibe to it but it's not good yeah that's that's what willie wonka that's willie wonka's vibe in charlie in the chocolate factor it's like we're all happy here it's like but are y'all like even the umpa lumpas seem like a little more miserable and less like it seems like it seems like they're in on something like nefarious with him yeah and like in in that movie johnny deb's character like he's the type of person that like uh i would not uh want to have a firearm

they're gonna subpoena willie wonka in charlie in the chocolate one hundred percent he's involved in something he might have flown on a plane or two yeah i like so but jir elon was on the list i did i saw that just released is elon still coming that was a essentially the gist of it. Guys, is Elon still coming on the plane with us? To the Pryl Island? Is he still coming? Oh, no, he didn't though. In 2014?

In 2014. He didn't. Didn't he? Did he? I don't know what came of it. No, I keep telling. Not Diddy. It was Elon. Oh, okay. But basically, all this to get back to Wonka, all right? Because you wanted my, you wanted the backstory. Of course. Here we are at Wonka.

When they first announced a new Wanka movie, I was excited. And then they said, oh, it's Timothy, little Timmy T or C, sorry, Timmy C. Chalamey. Timothy, it's Chalamette. And I like Timothy Chalemet. I do a lot. Sorry, I got to correct you because you just corrected me. It's Shalamette.

I'm an idiot. You literally just correct. I know, but people say it wrong all the time. So it, I just thought like I should call you, if you called me out, then I got to keep you in check, yeah, just as in check as you do me. I appreciate you keep me in check. And I appreciate that you thanked me because I think we both. No, and I, and I appreciate that you, you respect me enough to keep me in check as well and that you, you appreciate when I keep you in check. I think that's, it's healthy. Yeah. But Wanka, when they announced it, I was like, this is why. Why him? This is ridiculous. And then when the first people, pictures came out, I was like, wow. And I knew it was going to be not good. So I watched it.

And the very first thing I noticed about it was, it was just, it was so corny. And I mean, it was intentionally corny. But like in a fun director of Paddington way. Or like a charming and endearing way, at least. You're talking about when you watched it, not your reaction of the trailers no this is the movie itself okay it starts um on like a ship and tim and tim are they opening credits uh i just i don't think so you know very few movies do that yeah they stopped doing that with like the credits in the beginning kind of sucks people should get credit more like suss i think there's an imposter among us but it starts on a ship and you know timmy timi Timmy C is a theater, theater kid at heart.

And that he is. He does his little theater kid routine and he sings. And it's not bad. I just think that he was not the right. I don't know. It feels, it just feels like Timothy Shalham met. Yeah. And it feels like, okay, it feels like, am I supposed to,

I kind of wanted to laugh and I'm like, but am I supposed to laugh at this? Or is it trying to be like, whimsical and serious or is it like is everyone who made this movie in on it against me like are they laughing at me for having to just watch sit through it like is that vibe and the cg was like not bad but it was very obviously cg like the ship like everything and i was like that's what made me think of it and i was like this would have done if this movie had more practical stuff the whole movie was cg really everything was cg like even like in there's a part where they open up their his first candy store and it's uh kind of like the predecessor to the factory where it has um like a like hot chocolate river like and there's all the candy plants and everything and like it's all cg and i'm like if that had been practical it would have just felt a lot better because you can tell it's cg the budget went even if it looks good there there is this like

with movies and because we had this conversation with cg there's this as we talked with the curse there's this theatricality of putting a large part of your budget in a specific thing or moment and if that means like a big grandiose like kind of like set with this fountain because like for me when I'm watching a movie it's not like oh that's a cool looking fountain gee willickers it's like how do they do that that that that's that's actually incredible that they manage to like make something like that is that real and that's like a lot of the magic of the first Willy Wonka in the Chocolate Factory movie is obviously they didn't have CG back then. But a lot of the magic is when they first enter the like candy room in the

factory, right? And it's this massive sprawling like landscape of everything made out of candy by the way. What? Same with epic movie by the way. Yes. Because there was no CGI in that scene as well. Wait, that was all practical, wasn't it? I mean, you got to give them credit with credits too, right? They had a lot of different sets. They had a pirate ship that they rented, like off off of some harbor somewhere. Epic movie. I got to give, I got to give them credit to credit to do. We got to watch that Uncle Sleepover.

Have we not? No. Did we only do it? Did I only show you that for fun or something? I don't remember seeing it since I was in middle school. Have I never watched that together? No. Dude.

And I remember from the trailer. You know the pirates, what of the Caribbean? So classic. I remember laughing my ass off at like he's drinking the chocolate river and he's like, that's the sewage. I thought it was so funny. Kevin Hart's in it. Sign me up then.

Kevin Hart's performing in Saudi Arabia soon. So is Bill Burr. Dude, so is Gabriel Iglesias, aka Fluffy. And all I'm saying is you and I could go vlog seeing Gabriel Iglesias in Saudi Arabia. If we wanted to, we could do it. You're right. That is a possibility within...

All right, I'm going by myself in Ryan. That's a possibility within the realm of possibility. Ryan, what are the odds? I have to fly to Saudi Arabia by myself and go see Gabriel Iglesias and go support a blood money regime? Yeah.

Which I guess No, I'm not going to throw anything out. Ryan, repeat after me. There's no ethical consumption under capitalism. So I can go watch Gabriel Iglesias and laugh myself unconscious in Saudi Arabia

and feel no guilt at all. I just remember Pete Davidson's going to be there too. I'm there for Fluffy Man you know some of them got paid million Like Bill Burr They're not bringing in so much fucking money They knew there was going to be a big backlash to this right

So it's like For those who are unaware There's a big comedy festival With a bunch of big comics Like Kevin Hart, Dave Chappell Bill Burr Bill Burr Gabriel Iglesias Pete Davidson

It's just weird It's like it rings a bit hollow With Bill Burr His uh That one upset Like his comedy and his schick The rest of them I'm like I kind of

Not that I expected it But it's like Yeah He goes on like all these talk shows About like how evil billionaires are At least I don't know He seems Maybe we'll get into the classic

You're taking him out of context actually But it's like The vibe that I got from him Was like he was kind of just like, fed up with billionaires, fed up with their selfishness, fed up with, like, kind of like how they can just treat the country

as like some sort of online game playpen for them. And Saudi Arabia is like a perfect example of billionaires. Dials cranked a tent. Just fucking just going nuts. Al-A-Garcs be crazy. Yeah. Like, dude, the Saudi, dude, the royal family, who, that's some money.

Now, they sent me. Maserati to stop talking about, you know them. Okay. And they sent me a punch buggy used. I said if they sent me a Maserati to stop talking about them. Who knows? Maybe I'd stop talking about them. Well, they did send me a yellow punch buggy.

And you're still talking about them. It felt almost like an insult. Tip for tat. Okay. But I'll tell you. That was in benefit of you. They hit you. You hit them back.

Yeah. Take this Saudi Arabia. I feel like Bill Burr would be the, like, I just feel like he would be the one that would be, like, I could already see the clip in my head of him talking about this fucking ridiculous comedy festival and all these comedians selling out and going to Saudi Arabia for all, like, this blood money regime. Because it's all the usual suspects of comedians you would expect to. They don't surprise me, but Gilbert did surprise me. And Louis C.K., come on. No, like, there's, I think there's someone else who surprised me. Dave Chappelle, I didn't expect that out of him.

Is he going? Dave Chappelle, yeah, he was right next to the logo. Let me see. I don't even know what the comedy festival is called. I'll get Darwin to Photoshop you and me on there and get him and tweet it out. Cannot wait to perform Okay, I'm going to the official website Because I got to see this lineup

Carlos Mincea is not Not doing it right Hold up We got Of the people I know I don't know who Ben Hart is We got Jeff Ross and friends Dave Chappelle

Gabriel Iglesias Fluffy He's not too He's not fat He's fluffy He's unsari. Yeah, a fellow South Carolinian. Kevin Hart.

I don't know who a lot of these people are. Chris DeStefano. Dude, Chris DeLia? No. Cristalia. Dutie Stefano? I don't know who that is. I know Tom Seguera.

Yeah, we know each other. Yeah, we're close. We're buds. Tom Segura. Joe Coy. He's from way back when. Dude, he had a movie. Dude, Brandon Mordell plays his son in a movie.

and Easter Sunday Hannibal Burris That doesn't surprise me Did you Did you know that Did you see that? No, I didn't see that But that kind of doesn't surprise me

Because remember there was that whole Of course Andrew Schultz and Flagrant Live Like no No shit Like that's the most like Of course On the list so far

Let me see Okay yeah Andrew Schultz Who else we got Sebastian Who the fuck Magnifico It sounds like Of

Andrew Santes Santano and Bobby Lee from the bad friends podcast. Bobby Lee, baby. That doesn't surprise me. Bill Burr. Whitney Cummings. Doesn't surprise me. Jimmy Carlin Louis C.K. Doesn't surprise me. Pete Davidson doesn't. Like, Mark Norman doesn't surprise me. I don't know who Russell Peters is. I don't know who Zarnigargg is. Chris Tucker. Chris Tucker surprises me. God damn it. After being on the Lolita Express. And The Mega Lodita Express

And the newscast where Kanye said George Bush doesn't care about black people him and Mike Myers

were part of that Oh dude that was Chris Tucker that cuts back to Where it goes He like He looks to Because they had to throw that to

He was not ready To go on the air They should Why'd they throw it to They should have Kind of like gone to like a scenic But they just

Throw it back to Chris Tucker, he's like... I'm just to come back from that. Literally, the best part of that cliff, the best part of that cliff is Mike Myers delayed reaction where he goes, he like looks to the side. And then like, he's debating if he should say something and then it cuts.

That is such like, that's one of the best moments. Show it, Luke. Show the clip. May it up being the most tragic loss of all. George Bush doesn't care about black people. Please call. In the past few days. Beautiful.

Yeah. But anyway, if you want to see us perform live, we're going to be in Saudi Arabia at the beginning of October. Yeah, just support our GoFundMe for our private jet. All the supporters of the GoFundMe for the private jet are showing up on a list right now scrolling. On screen. Thank you for all those supporters. We're looking to get the one with the jacuzzi, so we might put the price, probably maybe another extra hundred. thousand yeah so the the the people because we need to be loo my my back hurts and we need to be loose

to perform oh yeah and also i'll be honest dude uh flying um economy to saudi arabia no thank you uh been there done that uh not doing that again so the people that are have the emojis by their names those are the supporters of us that are donating extra so we can get the the private jet with the jacuzzi for ryan's back or hot tub because i think jacuzzi is the jacuzzi is a brand yeah yeah um so the bubbling... It could be a whirlpool. So the bubbling vat of water. The bubbling cauldron.

I wish like bathtub and shower and stuff like that was coined. So like you couldn't like use it publicly without threat of being sued. But if you guys want to support us, you can go to Patreon right now and you can become a producer

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So they know at least they're not getting that sticker. Here's a past one. Yeah. A different pass one from the one. Here's an example of a previous sticker we've released. Bye.